Duck Call Room - How Si and Al Robertson Learned to Talk Smack
Episode Date: August 5, 2021Uncle Si and Al Robertson reveal how they learned the art of smack talk, why Al’s house looks like a FedEx drop off location, and the REAL reason Phil doesn’t wear his hearing aids. Jay Stone take...s an impromptu call from Phil Robertson. Phillip talks about his wedding which was officiated by Al. And Si and Stone give advice to a mother whose son is leaving for the Air Force. Catch Al on the Unashamed with Phil and Jase Robertson podcast every Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday wherever you get your podcasts. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, folks, welcome to the podcast.
All right, we got a guest today with us.
Oh, Al.
Okay, and look, a lot of people don't know, okay, about Al.
Because they see me as the pastor, side.
Yeah, they see you as a good guy.
Okay, he ain't always the good guy.
Because if you sit at the domino table with him and his cohort in crime,
Jason Robertson, they're probably, you're fixing to get your butt
strapped.
Oh, you're going to get strapped.
I'm proof of it, and so is
old Jay Stone.
I got two rules.
Rule number one, don't ever
get in a rig with Phil Robertson.
Number two, don't ever...
Both are our forward.
Number two, don't ever get in a card game
with Jason Robertson.
Those are good rules live by them.
Competitive is not the word.
But Al, Al's always been...
He literally had to grow up quickly.
Okay, as a kid, because he was kind of holding the family together when they was going through
rough times.
But, hey, he's also a very slick instigator.
Well, you know, I confessed to that yesterday in my sermon.
That was in the sermon yesterday.
It was in the sermon yesterday.
Hey, Lord, you just got to forgive me.
It just, I don't know what happened.
You weren't there.
You went there, side.
Hey, I was famine.
Oh, yeah.
I was feminine all right.
He's working on the news.
Some of us got to work for a little.
I was worried about you.
No, no.
Christine told me, and I said, well, that's stone.
Oh, hey, I bring it up.
Hey, look, y'all see this right here, boys?
I got an assail.
That's a sour cream pound cake.
And that is my, it was cooked by my deer hunting young lady and my fishing partner.
Okay, Ms. B. Kate.
Okay, stone, okay.
Well, they asked her to make a cake for the youth last night.
And she said, well, I need to make one for Uncle's side.
That's right, because Christine, I come home after eating my stone last Sunday.
And Christine says, where's the cake?
And I said, they didn't cook me on.
She said, well, God, that's all I was looking forward to since you was going over to eat.
And I said, well, I'll have to tell them that you was real disappointed when I come walking.
And the first thing out of your mouth was, where's the pancake?
But see, it's saying that good that you're, it's now multigenerational because your nephew,
me when I make pies a lot of times I'll make sure make an extra pie from Uncle Si or dad because
I know they love my pies and now my grandchildren are doing the same thing for it.
That's four generations.
Oh, yeah.
That's pretty good.
It's actually pretty wild because, hey, I was just about fixing to quit deer hunting.
Okay.
Until Stone said, no, come on.
Get out of the bed.
Oh, man.
Come on.
You're going on me and being cats.
They were trying to keep alive.
No, no.
Well, they are.
Okay.
And they have because Stone's kind of, he's a wild.
for me. He's big time in
and staying in shape. He lost about
70 pounds, you know, and he worked out all
time. Well, they got Uncle's I work it
out now. I'll work out every day.
45 minutes. He's been doing it for
four days. That's good.
No, no, I'm not going to give it up,
okay? I'm looking at my weight.
Okay, I weighed the other day. Okay,
165.
I ain't giving up
a lot of stuff, okay. I was up to
170 and going on
higher. And I said, nope.
I looked at this.
No, I got to get rid of this.
I wasn't the last time you saw a 160.
That's why one of my legs was 165.
Well, look, I'll give up certain things, okay?
You used to eat a lot of banana bread, okay?
So, you know, they're not making it as good,
so I'm giving that up.
Now I'm on blueberry muffins.
Oh.
Okay, so I'm not giving up my blueberry muffins or my walnut ice cream.
Okay, black walnut ice cream.
them two of them will keep.
But as long as I stay in the 160s, I'll be all right.
See, I found out when I reached about 45 years old,
I began to swallow a lot of aggression along with a lot of Johnny's pizza.
The aggression didn't get your fat.
Between the two, it has expanded my girth.
So I'm trying to be a calmer, gentler, Al,
who stays away from, you know, it's as many carbs I think.
But they haven't been working too good time.
Well, hey, look, growing up with Robertson,
Okay, hey, look, you know, you're talking about aggression, okay?
I guess it's just, you know, if you come along with the Robertson family,
aggression is going to be there, okay?
Because, because number one, we had a big family, okay?
You got a bunch of siblings.
Well, you had to speak up if you're telling the story.
Well, no, no, wouldn't he be heard?
Okay, everybody says, good grief, I've seen y'all play dominoes.
You know, why do y'all get so loud?
I said, because, hey, you got to understand.
When you're the littlest young one
And you've got all the siblings that are older than you are
If you didn't scream you didn't get heard
Yeah
What I've noticed is it's I don't know that it would be
Shear aggression
But it's competitiveness
Like when me and Stone play against y'all
We're part of it.
Oh yeah
This is our normal
This is the game
We try to play
Well we haven't played in a while
We need to make that right
But we try to play at least
once a month.
Well, I will say this, okay.
When y'all first started,
y'all was bad, bad looking.
Okay.
Hey, me and Al have done brought you all in, okay.
Oh, they're good.
Y'all are in the elite group now, guys.
How many nights in a row?
Did we lose it?
Oh, no, no.
They whipped us, look.
Yeah, they whipped us five in a row one night.
We whipped them like that.
Okay, after that.
Hey, me and I didn't play with them for about two weeks after that.
We were a little bit mad about it.
It was five games that are ready.
Five nights.
But if you'll remember, me and Stone never jumped up and rubbed it in.
We were all like, a good game.
Oh, you were talking pretty good smack.
You got a little smack.
No, no.
Maybe a little, but we didn't want, we do.
I know what happens when you start talking too much smack with the Robertsons.
We come back.
But hey, here's the thing on that, okay.
You've got to have the rocks.
Oh, yeah.
You got to.
Just strap.
Okay, because the best strapping that ever was ever,
done and witnessed
was with my brothers
Harold and Jimmy Frank
the oldest was playing
Jason and Al
and look they was about what
well out as a teenager
Jason is probably about 10 or 11
I was about 14 or 50 so we were
the only kids
they could play with the old grown up
okay look the game was it was
Jimmy Frank and Harold needed
five points
to win
Al and Jason needed 1 15
Al, let me fact-check that. Is that true?
That's true.
Go ahead.
Three rows versus a nickel, which normally it's just the game's over.
It's two hands, two hands, okay, five and sixes.
And it was, bam!
And then it was, how did we ever step you boys like a yard dog?
They quit the game after that, did it?
Yeah, they didn't play.
They were playing anymore.
It hurt them deeply.
Because what would happen, we would play these, so the setting was,
we would play it was Thanksgiving or Christmas
and all the family comes in
so a domino game gets started
and there's partners and then people are
eating and roaming around and visiting and so
as long as you won you stayed at the table
but when you lost you had to get up
and two other people sat down so you may
even change partners throughout the day
but so it was all day and the thing
looked like a pool hall
because everybody smoked
layers of smoke back then including side
and so when you would come in there it would be a haze
off the ceiling
it would be clouds two foot from the ceiling down okay y'all and daddy would have one or two burning in the ashtray
he had a ashtray as big as that cake plate yeah and it had all these little trays on it and it was just
constantly smoking itself oh yeah he was lighting them up smoking half of it and then he'd have three or four
on the stupid tray that was pa that was pa that was pa that was pa and gran did say oh james he doesn't put it out
he just dives at the ashtray remember what she would say that she would get so mad at it because it was just smoking
So between that, I mean, I took seeing so much secondhand smoke in my life.
It's a wonder.
I'm still even alive.
No, no, that's true.
There was a lot of smoke.
Yeah, that's true because I remember walking in a Denny Nems house,
and Al and Jason and Ma and Paul would be sitting there playing dominole.
And I'm talking about, look, it would be about a six inches over, over Daddy's head from the ceiling,
about three foot just, and I mean, it looked like a cloud.
Had come in the house.
It was bad.
So look, so, and to show you, so the seething was stained like this nicotine yellow, you know, along with their fingers.
So they did a paint job at the church a few years ago, big remodel.
And that's back when I was preaching, you know, working there.
And so they wanted to show it to me.
You know, everybody wants to preach to be happy.
So the guy that, you know, picked out the colors, he walks me in there.
And he said, well, what are you thinking?
I looked around.
I said, and it was kind of a dingy yellow.
And I said, you know, it took my grandparents smoking six packs a day for 50.
15 years to get their place to look like this.
You did it in one paint.
Good job.
And everybody laughed except this guy because he went in on a joke.
He didn't get the joke.
All right, guys, hey, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Oh, do I have a story for these guys?
All right.
All right, look, springtime is here.
It's warming up.
You know what that means?
That means more outside cooking.
And y'all know, we love to eat beef around here.
And that's what because of our friends over at Trial's beef makes such a good.
product, baby.
Ain't it good?
It's so good.
Our friend,
Sao Robertson would say,
buy on the grill!
Look, before we got Tritels,
getting ready for a cookout,
man, somebody had to run the grocery store,
do all the things,
grab whatever was left in case you were late in the day.
And you never really know where that beef comes from.
But with Tritels beef,
we skip the grocery store
and do it a different way.
Tritails comes from a family ranch out in Texas.
They're a fifth generation American ranch,
so they've been at it for a while.
Now, look,
the beef comes straight from this.
their ranch and other ranchers they work with who raise cattle the same way.
Their steaks are properly aged and shipped straight from the ranch to your door.
We threw a couple of ribbys on the grill.
Look, salt, pepper, garlic, hot fire, that's all you need.
Look, because I tell you what, when the beef comes from people who raise cattle for a living,
you can taste the difference.
The tenderness and the flavor are fantastic.
So if you're stocking the freezer for grilling season, go check out Tritale's beef.
I know in size case Christine loves it, which is just a
she doesn't eat me.
She ain't a big meat easier, folks.
Yeah.
Just go to tribeef.com slash.
That's trybeef.com slash
support ranch families
and eat some dang good steak.
All right, Philip.
You got a story?
I do, I have a story.
So once I was coming around the Robertsons
and, you know, we were playing different games,
hearts, spades, dominoes,
what's the one with the bird, owl?
Rook.
We played rook.
So me and Kevin McIntosh,
were playing against Wiley Bill Phillips and Al over at Al's house.
Our house was kind of the new Christian college-aged Central.
I mean, everybody was hanging at our house.
And it was huge.
It had like nine bedrooms.
I just remember how big it was.
So we're in there playing, and Bill is a bad smack talker.
I mean, look, I was a new Christian.
One of the worst.
Let's clarify who Bill is.
Billy.
W.
Yeah, that'd be W.E.
Red Dog.
Red Dog Phillips.
You probably could Google him and find him.
Oh, you could find him.
You could find him.
So anyway, we're playing.
And me and McIntosh get down to these guys.
And look, Al, Al's got a love language of sarcasm a little bit.
You know what I mean?
It's one of my love language.
Because he's pouring it on seeing the end that we're fixing to lose.
He's done figured out.
He fixed a strap.
He's got a strap.
So, look, we ain't got much left in the game.
I know this.
So here's what I do,
sign.
I said, boys, I said,
I got to go to the bathroom.
I'll be right back.
And I laid my cards down.
Now, they're waiting.
They're like, okay,
they're getting their drinks,
you know, whatever it is.
So I get to the bathroom,
lock the door,
climb out the window,
ease off in my car,
and I didn't talk to him for two weeks.
Hey,
they didn't even see him for two weeks.
Two weeks.
They sit there for like an hour and tell me.
Where did he go?
Did he die?
I was like, man, he must have ate too much pizza or something.
He's got some issues in there.
When they told me, I laugh.
Well, you call that, Phil, the classic number three.
That's the classic number three.
We don't go in for number one, number two.
You go in for number three.
I said, Philip, why did you leave?
He said, because, hey, the game was over.
I was fixed up.
I, bam, bam, bam.
I couldn't handle it.
He said, and I just, I knew what was coming.
I couldn't handle the smack.
He said, I couldn't handle it.
He said, I couldn't handle it all the smack that was fixed to be pushed upon me.
He said,
I left.
Remember when Josie Wells said,
you got to get mad dog mean.
When things start looking bad, remember?
Well, that's what I said.
I said, when things start looking bad,
you got to pull number three.
So, Philip, to show you, it's not just you,
whenever, I went on a mission trip.
My first mission trip,
I first time I ever flown an airplane.
I went to Romania, 1991,
with Kellett, with Steve Item,
with Chris Howard, the four of us went.
We were going to be there about three weeks.
We were doing some small groups,
we were doing some small groups, though.
Long one.
Long one.
And so,
we go and so you know you're in a lot of airports and we're sitting around a lot of play so i i said
well why don't we play some hearts some cards and they said well just y'all know how to play hearts
so yeah let's play hearts hearts is a brutal oh it's brutal it's a brutal it's a really
good at that's right because it's a it's it's every man for himself you know is what it is and
you don't really it's a and so you can you can throttle somebody for doing the right thing yeah you
try to run it that's 13 take that way or you're
Or you stop somebody and they slam the queen.
And you're like, why did you do that?
Because I could.
That's not called I could.
So, you know, I'm like the newbie on the mission trip.
And like, so we start playing this card game.
And it's brutal.
And they don't know how to play real well.
Calut knew a little bit.
So I'm just throbbing them.
And but I'm getting in my mode, my zone because that's the zone I grew up in.
And so they were like, so finally Steve out of him, you got to see if you knew him,
he's got a temper.
and he just threw those cards across the thing,
got up, stormed out.
He said, I'll tell you what,
Al's got a whole different temperament demeanor
when he's playing a car.
I mean, we're on a mission trip.
He walked away.
It wasn't a lot of brotherly love being shown here.
And I was like, what did I do?
It's the only way out news.
It's all I do.
But I learned it from Cy.
I learned it from my uncles,
my uncle Jimmy Frank and Harold,
we were talking about a minute ago.
They talked smack the whole time we played diamonds.
And since we were young,
they would really grind us hard.
And we really couldn't reciprocate fully
because they were adults.
We had to be respectful.
And so I remember leaving the table many time in tears
because I was just like, I wanted to go off
but couldn't because they were just on my butt, you know, the whole time.
Al, that's the way Sy is after every poker game with Jace.
Oh, yeah.
Tears in his eyes as he heading home.
Well, no, no, no.
Because one night, y'all, he had lucked out on me.
I mean, bad.
He seems to do that a lot.
No, no.
The person made to beat side was lucky.
No, no, but I'm telling you, okay, it was like he had a one-outer four times in a row at one-night.
Okay, I had him, I worried one of him.
I got all his money in, and I should have won it, and, hey, he hits a one-outer four times in a row.
And I got so mad, I said, hey, I got my wallet, and I said, give me a thousand.
You know?
And I said, Jason Robertson.
I said, I am coming after you with everything I've got.
That's close to what he said.
Well, no, no.
I, hey, you know, and look, he never played another hand.
But I said, I said, is Jason in?
And they say yes.
And I said, raise it, 200.
Yeah, raise it, raise, right.
So it's funny as I, hearing your side of it is because Jace talks about poker sometimes on our podcast.
So when he talks about you, he's like, I mean, I mean, he's my uncle.
I mean, I don't want to just like take advantage of him.
So I mean, I'm like, I'm trying to help him so he just won't lose all his money.
He makes that like you're a charity case and he's just helping out.
Oh, no, yeah.
Yeah, I know that.
That's what he's saying on the other five guys.
I will say one thing for him, okay, okay, and I've played poker for years.
You know, I've never seen a single human being play poker, okay, and be that lucky, that
consistently.
Okay, and he thinks he's the greatest poker player ever.
He's pretty good.
He's not, okay.
He's not, but he is good.
Okay, I gotta give it to him.
My rule is, don't get in the game with him to begin with.
Because Jake is too mad.
Because you ain't gonna win.
Plus, he's thinking so far ahead of you.
This is not checkers, it's chess.
And Jace is way ahead of you.
If you don't know that, when you look around and think,
who's the sucker at the table, it's you.
You know, you know,
that river what's the name of that river in egypt side denial that's your that's your that's where you're
no that's denial it ain't got nothing to it denial so we so we had a discussion on unashamed somebody
asked us question about gambling because jasoned and so you know somebody some of our good-hearted
listeners out there says well i thought gamel was wrong so jace goes into a whole exposition
you know dad of course goes in it from the bible how long did that take it was long it was
a long,
a long,
as anybody that listens
to Unashamed knows,
Jay speaks in a long volume.
Because, hey,
like he's always talking about
if he wins
and sucks out on your hand,
he'll never admit it.
He'll say,
well,
I had a developing hand.
So here's what he said.
So his thing,
the reason his,
that gambling isn't wrong
is, for him,
is because gambling is only wrong
when you can lose.
He said,
I never lose.
No.
He said, so it's skill.
It's not gambling.
But let me tell you something.
That's his, that's his theory.
Here's what, here's what size said that makes a lot of sense.
He said, Philip, you want to go playing the poker game?
He said, I got $100.
I'm buying into whatever tournament we were playing in.
And he said, I'm going to spend $100 if I take my wife out to eat into the movie.
He said, so she gets left behind and weed it out, and I'm going to spend this money going
and play in poker.
That's what makes me happy.
Yeah.
So I say the same thing when Lisa goes in and does that, she likes,
likes to do the penny slots if we're like in Vegas or someplace.
And it's like, and she'll usually just spend $20 or $30.
She likes it.
She likes it in there.
I hate it because it's like the biggest waste of time of my life.
It's saving you money because she's not shopping.
Well, she would spend way more online.
It's exactly right.
You put a laptop in front of her or an iPad and that's money.
That's cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.
No, because Christine does this way.
I told her not.
She says, hey, I made you to transfer, you know, $400 to my account.
And I said, hey, don't even start going down that road.
She said, you dropped this much money the other night at poker game.
Oh, boy.
She said, I'm into clothes.
And I said, yeah, but here's the thing.
You know, I said, you're into clothes by the seasons.
That's right.
So that's four times what I'm.
She said, I don't want to hear it.
You play poker two times a week, you know, so I don't want to hear it.
Hey, Jay, did you know that Christine gets a new outfit?
I mean, she's,
those away all the old clothes and gets all new stuff.
Well, she gives them away.
Well, yeah.
But four times.
So, Jay, we share a property together.
We live in two different spots.
How many packages come to your front door?
That's my house.
When y'all, you know, Al and Lisa went on a trip here recently.
And we're going for about, what, a week?
Week and a half?
Almost two weeks.
There was a wall of Amazon boxes.
Oh, no.
That's my house.
10 foot wall.
It was 10 by 10 across the front door.
My neighbors in Alabama, because we bought a place down there,
they think that my house is a FedEx distribution center.
Because they started bringing their stuff over the ship.
So I thought it was, you know, there were so many packages here.
I look on your porch all the time and there it is.
That's why, you know, the lady takes care of Christine.
Yeah.
She brings in, you know, I said, is that for me?
And she says, no.
And I said, that's what I thought.
But, hey, this is good marriage advice.
Hey, here's a tip for the men.
Just learn to say, yes, ma'am, a lot, and you'll be a lot happier.
Yeah.
Okay, because, hey, you like to do what you do, okay, and she allows it, okay?
So, hey, you better learn to say, yes, ma'am, when she wants to spend your money.
You got to give a little to get a little, side.
That's right.
You can't have it all one way, that's for sure.
Hey, good marriage advice, boys.
Oh, that's right.
Well, what are you going to get into next?
I don't know, but hey, we'll be right back.
We'll take another break.
We got the podcast going.
Welcome to the podcast there, Phil.
Podcast.
Yeah.
Every time I look up, I'm on a podcast.
Well, hey, welcome to the club.
That's what we're doing.
We got your oldest son as a guest today.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
They upgraded.
Upgraded, boys.
Hey, what are you doing today?
That's a lean engines.
That's a little blood.
And diesel engines.
Diesel motors.
That's it, boy.
Hey, he's got a diesel motor.
So, I don't know.
Well, we got the tractor back going, and Dan's going to shut it off here directly.
So everything's looking good.
It fired right up.
All right.
We fixed a tear there and tail off.
That's what I'm talking about.
We got rice and millet coming up everywhere.
That's right.
Hey, look, look.
I look down that lane, a lot of green on that lane.
So I think we're...
I sit in the chair.
That's up, stuff.
Yeah.
That's right.
I got a good deal going here.
I'll get the chair here and keep a breast of it.
You hold on, dad.
You hold on, and we'll make do something's wrong.
That's right.
Until duck season over, and then we'll go over and we'll burn our gun barrel.
And have the occasional beef tenderloin while you're at it.
That's what we're talking about.
There you are.
You don't hurt a thing.
All right.
See y'all.
All right.
Now that's a call in.
Now that's a call in.
That's why you got to hit your phone.
I'm going to ring the bell.
That's it.
That's a daily thing for me now.
I get,
I talk to two people every day.
Well, my wife, three people.
My wife, Cam Hogue at UPM in Jackson, Mississippi.
They make all our plastic duck off parts and fill every day about what's going on at the land.
What's going on in the land?
Okay.
That's not.
That's number one job.
Now, I get paid for.
making duck calls but my most important job is to take care of Phil and you and the land and get
the ducks feed growing that's it that and their deer feet so I know why dad likes to call out though
because he's stuck there with mom and A.N. Ann, her older sister who and neither one of them
never they ever stopped talking no nope and so dad so I finally got him at me on the podcast
so he's talking about his hearing aids you know I can hear a
an ant crawling across the front of it.
And so I was like, so why don't you wear them?
And he said, no, you don't understand.
They, I can.
He keeps going back to what he can hear.
And I said, no, you're not understanding my question.
Why don't you wear them at home?
Because I walk in and the TV is so loud, I can't even have a conversation.
And he never would answer.
And then finally I said, are you not wearing them because you don't want to have to listen to mom?
Because she's constantly told them the other time.
He said, you may be on to something there.
Right.
You may have hit the head, the nail on the head.
So that was his admission that he doesn't wear his hair days because he'll have to
listen to mom all day.
So I was like, well,
oh,
the first time I got him,
okay,
is I went into a restroom,
okay,
and turn,
look,
and turn,
I didn't know they sold him here and into the restroom.
And,
hey,
put two quarters in.
No,
no,
no,
no,
I've got,
I've got them in the army,
you know,
and look,
you know,
I turned the faucet on full blast and just right there fell down.
Come,
yeah,
pulled them out,
and,
hey I couldn't wear them after that.
I should have went back and they said,
well, if you had to come back in,
we would have adjusted them.
Yeah, yeah.
And I said, well, hey,
when it liked to blew my ear out,
I just said, no, I ain't wearing them.
I had the same thing when they,
one time I couldn't hear out of my right ear.
And we were at the beach and I was just like, man,
I don't know, something's going on.
So when I got home, I went to the doctor,
he looks and they say, oh, my word, yeah,
you got a problem here.
So he took some tool.
There was a nurse there with him.
she's had something like that.
And he just started digging out of my ear.
And, I mean, he got enough wax out that would have made a ball that big.
But look, when he took out that last part, it was like a big pop.
Yeah.
And then they were talking about it.
Oh, oh, oh, ooh, ooh, ooh, because, I mean, it was like hurting.
It was hurting my ear.
And I was like, I made myself deaf from earwax.
Well, no, no, what was that?
Did Jace had a bug in his ear?
That was willing.
Earwig.
Oh, that too.
No, both of them had it?
No, Willie had a water bowl.
You know, them big old, you mean, like a roach.
Like a brooch, but they're that long, flying roach.
One of those crawled down his ear when he was 15 years old.
You know, we would all, when you graduated up at our house, you moved into the laundry room.
That means you got your own room.
So there was just a cot in the laundry.
I had it first, then Jay's had it, and then Willie got it.
And Jay's was sleeping on the couch.
He liked to sleep on the couch and the living room.
So back, but the problem with the laundry is, is then.
them big old water bugs were back there.
So one decided to make a nest in Willie's ear.
He wakes up.
He's 15.
He's crying, you know, and he's 15 years out.
Oh, yeah, but every time that thing.
Right.
He was fluttered.
And so, you know, mom and dad are like, they're just, you know,
pumping it full of stuff and, you know, medicines.
Yeah, trying to wash it out or whatever.
So finally, dad's like, okay, I guess you're just going to have to take him up to the
emergency room because it ain't get no better.
They did.
And they pulled that thing out.
And Willie said when they got it about halfway out,
it just made a big loud pop, you know, because they had put all that pressure on it.
But that thing, every time it would buzz out against his gear drug.
I had a moth like a small one.
Got it reminded it would just, when he had floated out, I just,
I mean, every time it'd like knock me down.
So you never got it out, did you?
No, no.
It's still in there.
No, but look, Jay's had something in his ear.
He had an ear wig.
Okay.
It looked like a prehistoric.
A prehistoric dinosaur.
Oh, yeah.
It's got a patriarchal.
Yeah, this thing was gross looking enough.
Did you got that out of your ear?
But the thing's called an earwig, but everybody I've talked to never heard of one actually getting in somebody's ear.
If you look it up on the internet, it says it's a wives tale that it'll get in your ear.
But when something is called an earwig, that means somewhere down the line, it's been in an ear.
It's been in an ear.
It's been in an ear.
Not a wives tale.
Yeah.
No, this is not a joke.
No.
because I mean this thing looked like a dinosaur
Oh, I saw it.
Did you ever see the Star Trek, the Rathacon,
when they had the bugs they put it in their ears
to control their mind?
Oh yeah, yeah.
It looked just like that.
That's what it looked like.
That's where they got the idea for it.
Well, it was also on Flash Gordon.
Remember when?
They brought out the ball words.
Not the bore worms.
Get the ball word.
Y'all started talking about Star Trek and Flash Gordon.
You don't left me in the dust.
Well, hey, look, I just know this.
I would hate to have that stupid thing in my ear.
It was bad enough when I had that little moth
because he was bad about, like y'all.
Every time he did, I did some ground, just, uh-huh.
I can't imagine one of those earwigs.
Hintcher.
No.
Yeah, and they're little.
But then since then, we've gotten, we talked about on the podcast,
so we've gotten emails from people and when they found one
or somebody found one on their shoulder,
and they were like, oh, I was almost there.
They was heading it way.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
But Jay's has more stories about stuff like that, about stuff that got in his beard,
and he was coming up.
In his vehicle.
Yeah, in his vehicle, all these things are after.
Every time he tells us to throw on the podcast, I say,
Jase, you have, every week you have something happened to you that's never happened
in my life.
No, no.
I'm 56 years old.
I got a question.
I got a question.
I got a question.
When you were telling him, I said, I said, you know,
What have y'all been up to?
And Al said, well, we just let Jace go out.
That's it.
Okay.
We're into the population.
Just live.
Yeah, just live.
Go out into the population, Jay.
And then come back and tell us what happened.
He ain't going to run out of stories.
What is Jace's infatuation with killing flies?
Because yesterday we were eating and he jumped up and killed a fly.
I thought he's going to knock everything off the table.
It's not just flies.
It's things that fly.
He's bad about, he's got this thing.
Just crazy about it.
No, no, he was telling me, he was telling me that he had been chasing one all morning.
Yeah.
And he said, then my son actually, you know, seen him lit.
He was lit on something and it was, it was, it was cold.
And Cole goes, Jayce jumped up and told me, what did you do it?
And Cole said, what?
He said, hey, when you kill a fly, you kill it.
He said, I want to have a lot.
son of mine just talking like a little girl going.
He told the story.
He said, I went off on him.
He said, I was mad to the rest of the day.
He told the story today on the podcast, ironically,
and he said he had to apologize later because he embarrassed Cole in front of everybody
was there.
And he was like, you know, I mean, that was just, I shouldn't have done that.
That was not good.
I lost my temper.
He said, but he just over.
Not hitting a fly hard enough.
So I don't know.
You tell me.
I guess we got that from, look, we got that from Mammal.
hell. Well, I heard she was mean.
Oh, no, no, no.
Was she the one that would assess the blame?
Oh, yeah.
Who's the one that would pinch you under the table with their toes?
That was Aene-I-Reed.
Okay.
It's like an earwig.
Oh, yeah.
And all their toes, they lay over on top each other, so they're like a vice grip.
Oh, they was just like channel locks.
Hey, her two, the big toe in that one next to?
They were like channel-lots.
So, Al, why do you think y'all's family had toes?
that laid on top it.
Well, how'd that happen?
Well,
Grady and Paul were cousins.
Hey, and it was debatable if it was stirred or, and then the field said,
nope, it was worse than we thought was their second cousins.
That explains a lot.
Well, let's get into some of that right after the break.
Hold on, Jay.
Let's look at the family tree.
There's a lot of forks in it.
No, forks in it.
All right, boys, hey, we're back.
Well, we're back.
Look, I got to go with this, Al, okay, when you was growing up, okay?
You and your buddies, okay?
I don't even remember exactly what happened, okay?
Ask Al, he's sitting up there.
Al, tell us the story about, okay, the only thing I know about it is Phil showed up where they was at
after whatever happened happened and said hey
Al you need to get to the house
and if you boys want to come back
all of you need to come to the house.
All right let's hear it out.
So I was about 16 years old
and I was always younger because like I started
to school when I was four years old
and because I guess in Arkansas
I didn't know that.
I guess in Arkansas you can go whenever you want to
because I was four years old
and I started the first grade.
So what happened was when you when you
run that all the way out.
Well, I'm a senior in high school, and I'm only 16 years old.
And so, but all my buddies were 18, you know.
I didn't even know that.
Yeah, Dubby and Greg Epinette.
That makes sense.
I didn't know that.
And Terry Elkins.
The reason why it happened is because mom was the secretary for the superintendent of the school
system, and dad was a coach there.
So they just let, you know, it was daycare, go to school.
So they just put me in school.
Another thing to rob my childhood.
But anyway.
So, so.
Yeah, because you was always older.
Always older.
So my buddies, you know, they had started drinking.
And so I had been began to partake in this, you know, in the drinking.
So W.E., his parents had a little camp that's just around from our hunting property now.
It's about three miles from mom and dad.
So we went over there one night with a case of beer and some other stuff.
And so we're having a big time.
You know, everybody's getting drunk.
And so we went all over.
Teenagers being a teenager, boys.
And we thought, you know, we're not in town.
We're out here in the middle of nowhere, but we had got the neighbors all riled up because of all of our antics.
And so they ratted us out to Bill's parents, to Debbie's parent.
So the next day, me and Greg are sitting there folding box.
I think all four of us were sitting there folding boxes because everything was Duck Commander when it was in the living room.
So we're doing our little Saturday morning work, you know, and all of a sudden the knock on the door.
And it's Bill's mom.
And she comes in and immediately I looked up and I thought, uh-oh.
Yeah, trouble.
Rubble.
But you couldn't go nowhere.
Yeah.
So we just kind of kept foot.
So mom was like, oh, Carol, what are you doing out here?
And she said, well, we need to talk about the boys because last night they all got drunk
over at our camp and the neighbors are all in the uproar.
And I'm fixing to take them over there to apologize.
Well, I knew dad's out on the front porch.
Him and old Keith catfish pal.
And they're making duck calls.
And I thought, oh, crap, this is going to be bad.
This is going to be bad because you got to understand, folks.
Phil had just got met Jesus okay was changing his life and alcohol you know he had been bad on alcohol
that's right okay so he didn't he did not want to hear anything about alcohol so he's about five
years into not drinking you know and but I'm kind of getting into the life you know and so so we
so I'm like I'm all for let's go apologize anything to get me out of here so so we leave and we go over there
hang our head and apologize to the neighbors, you know, and we're all sitting around, you know,
and I hear, I can hear the old blue Chevrolet pickup coming, had a wheelbar.
It's whining.
He had a little wine in it.
And I picked up the wine about two miles out.
And I thought, uh-oh, so dad walks up and I can tell he just has that look, you know,
he has a really neat, neat, neat look.
You know that looks like.
How old he's about, what, 25 maybe 30?
Yeah, he's probably at the time.
He's about 32.
Yeah, about 30.
Okay.
He's young.
He's black, just jet black.
He's in his prime.
He's in his prime.
You wouldn't want to take him on.
Yeah.
Hey, he's pulling nets up all the river, okay, and he's got arms, four arms like Papa.
He's just, he's, yeah, anyway, so he walks up there and their camp is like screened in, so you can see you all the way through it.
So he walks up here, he sees us sitting in there, and he opens the door.
And he doesn't even say in there, no, he went.
Which means, hey, get your butt up and go home.
I'll walk out, and I'm standing behind him, and he says, let me tell you.
three something he's fixing to get what he deserves for what happened here last night and if the
three of you ever want to come to my house again ever you'll load up in that car with him and whatever
he gets you get otherwise i don't ever want to see you again and so i'm behind them like you know what
yeah i don't say save yourself don't come you don't want this he's going to kill us all so so they but you know
my buddies. They all just said, well, we're going to, we're in with Al. So they load up, we load up
in the car. We follow him back over. We get out of the car. And Paul back then had a Chrysler in the
back end of that thing. I swear it was 10 feet wide. It was just the biggest behemoth of a car
he's ever seen. He said, he starts taking his belt off. He said, all right, boys, line up,
line up on the back of that white car. And bend over. And bend over. And so we're all up here,
just like this. Four, you know, strapping teenage boys line up.
up. And so the first guy up was Bill. And now Carol and Red, his mom and stepdad are standing there.
And he says, this is embarrassing. You know, your mom and dad, what do y'all think?
You know, because I'm fishing a tear there butts up for that. And they said, get him, Phil.
Sick him, boy. So he starts seeing. And dad was a talker. You know, he's one of them kind that he'd
tell you about it. He got that for mama. Yeah. And even had the syllables worked out. I tell you what Bill
It's timing.
It was the timing port.
It's embarrassing.
I'm whipping you right here in front of your parents.
So Bill steps aside.
So next up is Greg.
And he's my old pal, Greg Epinette.
So he starts in on Greg.
This is embarrassing.
You better tell David and Mary Ed that I whipped your butt.
If you don't, you'll get another one.
So Greg steps aside.
The next guy's got in Terry Elkins.
And Terry had never been to my house before or since.
This is this guy's first time, okay, to be without.
So he's leaning up.
And dad says,
son,
I don't know who you are,
but you go home and tell your parents
that Pell Robbins and whip your butt for getting drunk, you know?
And then he came up to me.
Of course,
then he got all serious,
you know,
because he was just,
he didn't worked up into a good math.
And so he's warmed up in other words,
boys,
I don't fix to get the full measure.
But I always tell.
So the thing that really,
that I don't remember the whipping
because it was the last one I ever got from him,
but I,
you know,
wippings are whippin.
But I remember what he said.
He said, you saw what I put your mama through.
And now you're going to turn around and do the same thing to her.
You should know better.
And, you know, the whipping, I didn't mind.
But, man, that one, wow.
That one got me.
That was poor salt in the wound.
Oh, he did because he was right.
Like, I was always mom's biggest defender.
And here I was about to go down the second road.
Unfortunately, it took me another couple of years to work my way out of it.
But I never forgot what he said that day, you know.
And so it's funny.
So, like, 30 years later, a few years ago, I'm at the church and Skywalks,
up. He said, do you remember me? And I said, I looked at him and he looked so familiar, you know.
And I was like, did we go to school together? He said, yep.
He said, remember the whoopin?
That's what he said. He said, you remember, you remember that day, bending over that white? I said,
Terry, I said, I've been telling your story all across America. Because, you know, I used
to tell the story a lot into my speeches. I said, I've been talking about you ever. I said,
how are you? He said, well, I went to the Air Force and my life kind of didn't turn out great, you know,
but I'm kind of working my way back.
And he saw Dad as well.
And he said, he went up there.
He said, Mr. Phil, you remember me?
Dad said, don't think a dude.
He said, you whip me.
Well, he said, that was you?
He said, well, how'd you turn out?
He said, not too good.
He said, I guess I should have whipped you harder.
He said, I whipped the hard.
Look, when I heard about this, I got out pulled out to the side.
I said, hey, this is like the military and people that have gone through the war together.
You form a bond there that,
And I said, hey, I will say this for your friends.
And I told them all.
I said, y'all are worthy to be called friends.
I said, because, hey, I just said, I'll, been fun, buddy, but hey, I ain't coming.
See you.
And I still get calls and texts from Greg and Bill.
They're still friends.
But Bill is the best man in my wedding.
I called him because I've been trying to figure I had to lose some weight,
and I heard he lost 80 pounds.
So I caught him.
I said, Bill, what do you do?
He said, it must be getting rough if you're calling me about weight loss.
I said, yeah, it is, man.
Yes, I've reached that devil, boy.
I don't want to get, you know, and he said, well, I lost about 80 pounds.
I said, Bill, I'm so proud of it.
He said, well, I got another Honda to go.
And I was like, oh, Bill, I didn't know.
And so we, but even to this day, to your point, Sal, you're right.
When you go through it with somebody, you're through it.
And they stuck up that day.
Hey, I'd have had, you know, you, you know, y'all would have called me Karen because I just said,
Hey, guys, I love y'all.
Hey, it's nice to be knowing you.
And I'm gone.
Out of here.
I'm out of here.
So they, you know, Greg and Bill, yeah, they impressed me.
Okay, they really did because, hey, that is, hey, we want to run with a guy.
So, hey, let's go.
And I guess poor Terry was just peer pressure.
He sure should know.
He just fell in, wrong time.
Hey, that's it.
Hey, that's like song.
Wrong last name.
Doc Jay in New Orleans sing.
Yeah.
Wrong time.
Wrong place.
Roll blank, roll down.
Well, you know who your true friends are with something bad goes down.
Well, that's exactly right.
They stood by you, Al, and I've always really been impressed by that.
I really was.
Okay.
That's a top-notch.
That's it.
So, let's take us a little break and get into those emails from the hello.
Hello.
Dock call room.
That'll work.
What are the fans?
What do you think?
Well, Al, being a preacher.
How many weddings have you actually performed?
You know, I haven't counted them in a long.
One time I had them counted, I kind of knew, but it's over 125.
So I don't know if you know this, but 30 years ago, Al actually did my wedding.
Oh, he married you and Alicia?
Yeah.
And we did that.
Did we do your premarital?
Mike Kellett did.
Mike and Susan Kellett.
And I told Kellett, I said, hey, we made it 30 years.
So you did a pretty good job.
That's right.
So Philip and Alicia were at my second wedding to do.
The one before was about three months maybe before was another one of their pals.
It was Jason's first convert, Blake Gaston and Shannon.
And it was interesting with Blake and Shannon's because her dad, they were young.
I mean, she was 18.
I think Blake was 19.
And the dad, you know, the old deal about asked for your hand in marriage, well, he said no.
And so, which is, you know, it happened in every one of our.
By the way, all the Robertsons, me, Willie Jace, were also told.
Oh, no.
But we still with it.
What about Stone?
No, I towed Stone.
But Stone asked me and I was okay.
I said, no, we need wait until she gets a little older, you know, because she was young, too.
But anyway, so we, so at the rehearsal, Alicia is the wedding director.
Well, she's about 18 or 19, which, so she hadn't had any experience it, but she was just trying to help kind of organize it.
And so when we're standing there at the rehearsal, we're at WFR in our main sanctuary,
and they're walking down.
Everybody's coming guy in place, but there's just tension because everybody knows that dad is not happy.
He doesn't want to be there.
And he's angry.
And then Blake's dad is ready to whip somebody's butt.
I mean, I'm thinking, okay, my first wedding, we're going to have a good old redneck
throwdown right here in the sanctuary.
So when they're walking down the aisle toward me, and I'm green, this is my first one.
I'm 23 years old or whatever, 25 years old.
And they're walking down the aisle and she's looking one way just sobbing.
And he's looking the other way just with a mean scow.
And I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, oh, no.
This ain't good.
This ain't good.
So when they get down there, I'm kind of waiting because I'm not sure.
You know, it's my first time too.
And Lisa says, I think you're supposed to say who gives this.
I'm not answering that.
I was, oh.
So we just went up another level of tension.
And then, you know, and then we got through it.
nobody fought the next day and i've noticed this now because i've done a lot of weddings a lot of
funerals the most dangerous place to be is the night before a funeral when all the families get
together and some have had a few adult beverages and we're all remembering but then there's bad
tension there i've seen fights there and then wedding rehearsals because if there's any bad cracks
that's going to come out the night before but when you get to the actual show to the wedding or the
funeral everybody behaves because nobody wants to show out now so i've all i've learned that through
the years. I learned that for my first one. But you know, it's interesting because he wasn't happy,
but he, you know, he gave her away. And now they've been married 30 years, just like you've got.
30 years next year. And, you know, they have a great relationship. And it took a little while
for him to work it out. And so I learned a lot from that that, look, it may start out a little rocky,
but give it time. It'll work out, you know. And so that was my first two experiences was, and you
were actually number two, Philip. That's wild. And, you know, that's the first time I ever saw Phil.
I mean, the whole family was there
and Phil was, they were there, of course, to see you.
But it was kind of neat seeing Phil, kind of dressed up, you know,
he showed up for it.
All right, MacDonald.
Let's get this thing going.
I said, it's your son that's doing it.
He's like, all right, make me quick.
As I recall, y'all had an outside wedding at Corolli Park.
That's right.
And the whole time, a big wind blew up.
And I'm like trying to hustle now because we're fixing to get wet.
I mean, it's one of them losing out of deal.
And so I just got it done.
We got inside.
and the bottom fell out.
Perfect timing.
But it blew out all the candles.
Stuff was blowing all over the place.
That was a sign.
That was a sign.
Oh, 30 years ago.
Was that a sign?
That was a sign that said,
hey, it's all going to be good, boys.
And it has been.
You chose wisely.
He did.
His wife, Alicia, is one of my favorite people.
She always has been.
She's very smart,
which is why Phillips' kids are all so smart.
There's no other explanation,
boy.
Yep.
I was more.
I was going to ring the bell for.
But she's also just has the biggest heart you've ever seen.
I mean, she's good with people.
And she is.
She's a great person.
One of my favorite people in the world.
And your kids are actually that way.
They are.
They are good.
They really are.
While we're talking, I do want to just say this before we move on because I haven't
got to tell Jay.
But Jay is one of my best friends.
And I'm going to tell you this, what he said while ago is true.
When things get bad, you know who your friends are.
are.
Si, when you were sick, if it wasn't for Jay,
you wouldn't have made it through.
Because I helped you, but it was because Jay's strength.
Yep.
And Jay, I appreciate everything you did back then for helping Sy out.
And while you're on that, I'm going to give kudos to old Jace.
Okay.
When Jace was getting ready to graduate from high school,
I think he may have already graduated.
He said, okay, but hey, before we actually just scatter like quail
and go our own ways,
I'm going to try to convert all my peers in school.
So he went on a just gospel preaching.
Absolutely.
We were there when we were.
We hit Al about 2 o'clock in the morning several times.
He went on a crusade and looked.
A lot of them are still at church.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
And we worked it as a team because we had this house.
Lisa and I moved to town.
We left the river, moved to town, went to school,
preaching school.
And Jace knew he wasn't ever going to be a preacher, just that wasn't his calling.
But he loved to share the gospel of people.
So he has the heart of an evangelist.
Oh, yeah.
And so Jace would be there.
People would come.
Lisa was great at hospitality, even when we were young.
So we just had this setting where Jace was leading him to Christ.
Lisa and I were sort of kind of discipling.
Like you said, that's why you guys looked up to us.
And then we'd bring in dad every once a while for just a good fight.
Bring in the big gun.
For a fireball.
Ball pin hammer.
The sledge hammer.
So I tell people they ask why unashamed is so successful.
And I said, because the three of us have about 100 years of Bible study experience when you put our years together.
About 40, 30 and 30.
And we all look at things differently.
I'm a pastor.
There's no doubt.
I have a pastoral approach to people.
I get along with people.
I'm diplomatic.
Jason is an evangelist.
I mean, he's thinking, get the gospel of you.
And dad is a prophet.
In other words, he's not, he's never going to back off a job.
truth. And so the reason it works so well is because those three views of studying the Bible and
then just having a conversation about it is impacting people. So I think it's that teamwork approach
and the fact that Philip and these guys have been around for 30 years shows you that it has legs.
I mean, it works over the long period of time. Absolutely. Which makes it good.
Well, let's get into. All right, boy, open the mailbox up. Let's see what we got.
The mailbox. Well, this is a good one. You know, there's some good emails in here, but I'm going
go with this one. This is from Miss Cheryl in Boonville, Mississippi. Hello, duck call room crew.
I have a question for Uncle Si. Thank you for your service, first off, and Stone as well.
Appreciate it. Our pleasure. My son just graduated Air Force Basic Training yesterday,
July of the 29th. The seven and a half weeks he was there was hard for this mama and then
having to tell him by yesterday after only six hours together was even harder. So when you get out
of basic training you have a small window where they let you communicate with your parents and family
way so that's pretty tough for and however when i tapped him out after graduation it was the best
feeling such a proud mama moment my question is how did your mom feel when you left do you remember
her telling you this was hard but our faith got us through for sure signing off with my airman
Airman's favorite Bible verse
and I think that's the Bible verse
we're going to go out on today. But before
we do, Sai, do you remember?
Yep, I do. And me and
Mama talked about it and I said, well,
it's your fault. And she said, what are you talking about? And I said, you
name me Salas. And I said, yeah, that's
Paul's traveling companion. And I said,
ever since you put that name on me,
I've been on the road.
It's like Willie Nelson's song, on the road again.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, but, you know, and Mama, you know,
Mama had told me this throughout the years about, you know,
when you are at your lowest, okay, clear your mind, okay, and look around, okay,
when you think you can't go any further, you just, you've had it,
and you'll always find there's someone else that you need to hit your knees
and thank the Almighty.
Oh, I'm sorry I even thought that.
Okay.
Because I'm so much better off than that person.
Yeah, that's right.
And my mom, of course, mamas have, they're all very similar.
They're tied.
Comes to their babies moving on.
And this is a special moment, but at the same time, it's tough on mom.
I remember my mom when I was deployed.
She got on her knees and not, she didn't tell me this.
my dad told me this later she got on her knees and prayed at least twice a day for her son to come back home safe so if if that's that's what i remember most about
you know my mom going through me being gone and everything so take a page out of that uh Cheryl I know that you do pray a lot so just keep that going to get on your knees and say a prayer not only for your son but for every service member out there because these are
dangerous times
are moving in.
So her son's
favorite Bible verse
happens to be Isaiah
48.
And that's what we'll go out on.
The grass withereth.
The flower fadeth,
but the word of our God
shall stand forever.
Amen.
And let me tell you this, Jay.
Guess where I'll be Thursday.
I'm going to see Bryson graduate
from boot camp from the Air Force.
Air Force.
In San Antonio on Thursday,
me and Alicia are going to
go through this same thing.
That's it.
Well, here's the deal.
Thank you for reading that.
To tell both, tell the lady, okay, tell your son, we appreciate him serving our nation.
Also, Philip, tell Bryce we appreciate him serving our nation.
We'll do it.
All right, guys, we'll see y'all next time.
Next time.
It's a wrap.
