Duck Call Room - John-David Is Crushed By the Death of His Dog
Episode Date: November 10, 2022Uncle Si goes pheasant hunting with The Undertaker and teaches him a thing or two about poker. Martin and John-David talk about their crazy experiences with owls, and Si gets excited to share his know...ledge about vampire bats. Phillip and Martin comfort John-David after the loss of his beloved dog, Dublin. The boys give advice on how to tame the "bloodlust" of a 6-year-old aspiring hunter and teach him about the conservation, planning, and logistics that go into hunting and the outdoors. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, it was hot as I'll get out when I was landed last night at 10 o'clock.
Here?
Yeah.
Why are you staying up to 10 o'clock?
Well, hey, I fly it.
Oh, my friend saw you in the airport again.
Was he singing?
No, I said if he does anything weird, please video it and send it.
Same friend?
Which airport?
Same friend.
Huh?
I was Monroe.
Oh.
Oh, Monroe, whatever it is.
Did you fly commercial?
Yeah.
You went to North Dakota?
Yep.
South Dakota?
South Dakota.
Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and then went to emory for a pheasant hunt.
Did you kill any?
I killed eight.
I killed my limit both days.
There you go.
Three, one day and four of the next.
What?
Did you shoot your 28 gauge?
Nope, 20 gauge.
A kid from up there lent me his 20 gauge.
Okay.
Did you have fun?
Oh, yeah.
I had a blast.
Did you wear all the garb?
Oh, yeah.
You got to wear the orange.
Did you bring any birds back for us?
I looked like a big pumpkin.
because I sat down on the chair
I was the blocker.
You were the
you got beaters,
you got the dogs,
and then you got the shotgunners
with the beaters and the dogs.
And then you got blockers.
Then you got blockers
and me and Undertaker were a blocker.
The Undertaker, the real Undertaker?
No, no, yeah.
He's a cool dude.
Not the guy we play poker with it.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
This is the real deal.
The Undertaker.
So it took you a minute and a half
into that story to mention that you went
pheasant hunting with the undertaker? With the undertaker.
That's a travesty.
I'd love with that. Oh, no, no. He's
a cool dude, too. Then I played poker with
you. What? No, no, yeah.
Why am I just now hearing all this? No, no.
But, hey, you got to, you'll love this.
All right. Yo, I get busted out.
Shocker. Shocker.
Anyway, the understatutes sitting
right next to me on the right. Well, he
picks up 6'4. And I said,
Martin. I said, hey, we've got a name for that.
And I said, you need to play it.
You're looking at his car?
Yeah.
He's busted out.
Yeah, he busted out.
So I'm helping him out, and I said, hey, he's called the Martin.
And I said, look, you should shove it all in right now.
And he did it.
No, no, I said, because, hey, it's a winner.
Well, he, you know, he, no, they was betting and betting big and all that.
And the flop come out, I think, a queen seven, five, or no, five, three.
Oh, open ended.
Yeah, you know.
So I'm looking at, you know, and some guy bets all.
He bets like 800, you know.
So the Undertaker.
Dollars?
Tournament.
Tournament.
Y'all.
He folds.
And I said, bad foe.
Big man.
I said, bad foe.
I said, hey, just for giggles, go ahead and show the last card.
He did.
Seven.
Straight.
You told that man right there.
I told that man.
Yeah.
I wouldn't have told Undertaker about that.
Yeah.
Was he a pretty cool guy?
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Oh, he's great.
And he's a good shotgunner.
Does he go by Mr. Undertaker?
What's his real name?
Mark something.
Did you call him Mark or Mr. Undertax?
Sir.
I call him Big Man.
With Big Man, Sir.
How tall is he?
About 6.11, maybe 7 foot.
And weighs about 350.
Really?
And it ain't no fat on it.
Okay.
Were you nervous or a little bit scared?
No.
He's 610.
319.
He's cool.
He's what?
How tall?
610, 3.
Oh, 2009.
Oh, real nine.
Did he tombstone you?
Yeah.
He dropped you on a head.
Oh, no, no, when you looked at you, you just got a little nervous.
Yeah.
No, he's a real cool dude.
It's really a undertaker.
He, matter of fact, we're going to try to get him to come hunting with us.
Duck hunting?
Duck hunting.
Oh, he ain't going to fit in none of Phil's blinds.
Huh?
You're going to have to build a new blind for him?
He ain't going to fit none of them things Phil got.
Yeah, well, I don't even know if they make wager to fit him.
Oh, he don't need none.
He don't need no.
But as tough as he is, probably...
He's an undertaker.
He don't need...
He's a kid.
He don't need no waiters.
You played poker and went hunting with the Undertaker.
With the Undertaker.
And that's not what you left the story.
Yeah, that was not his main story.
Oh, no, wait.
That's wild.
No, no, it was wild.
And like I said, he's...
He's a part of all of our childhood.
Oh, yeah.
That moment in life when you believe wrestling is real?
Oh, no.
Wait a minute.
Wait, what?
Oh, no.
No, don't.
No, don't.
Yes.
I remember the day I come in on leave,
and they had been watching somebody, Phil and Jason and all of them.
They was into it, you know.
Jayce was telling them, but, oh, yeah, it's real.
And I said, Jayce, I said, I hate to brush your bubble.
I said, but I said, I'll give you an example.
I said, I'll get on the top of Phil's porch, back porch.
And I said, you lay down out there in the dirt,
and I'm going to jump, and I'm going to land with my knee in your chest.
And I said, there's two things.
One of two things going to happen.
I would like to watch that.
We're going to bury you or you're going to hospital for emergency surgery to save your life.
I said, you're not going to get up and then beat me after I land with my knee in your chest.
That's called the atomic knee, size.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
They believed it.
But we all go through that phase in our life where you believe it's real.
Then you realize it's the greatest soap opera ever.
Oh, no, no.
No, no, no.
They are the greatest stuntmen in the world.
Yep.
The core.
Okay, because if they wasn't, they'd be hurt.
Seriously hurts.
Okay.
Did you ask him about any injuries?
No.
I'd have to ask him a lot.
Oh, I would, too.
We've got to get him on the show.
Yeah, get him hunting.
Get him over here, sign.
Oh, no.
In the room.
And then you can hit that gong one time like he used to walk out to.
Dome.
Of course, we're going to have to get a bigger door if in measurements or
right.
I had a bigger gong.
You got to watch it when a man comes in with a horse-drown, what's the name of it?
Carriage.
Yeah.
He rode up on a horse?
No, he drives in on the, on the, you know, the casket holder.
Oh.
Wagon.
You know.
When he was wrestling, I thought you just said he rode up on a horse to south the car.
No.
He may have.
That's a Clyde's day.
Hey, he had to come in carrying a horse.
Not riding him.
Okay.
He had him on his shoulder.
Yeah.
Throw him in the ring.
I did get to meet
Junkyard Dog back in the day
He was he was awesome
I can't wait until he comes here
And then Sage's you know meets him
Yeah, she's a wrestling thing
Oh yeah
She knows them all
Rick Flair you know
The Undertaker
Oh she's old wrestling
Oh no yeah
She likes the old guy
The Rick Flair walk
Yeah
Now Rick Flair were you doing infomercial
Yeah
No right
He's just
You know Mark
After 37 years of research and development
And wrestling.
Let me tell you what works.
Go to Auto General.
Oh, no.
No, he just was inducted into the Hall of Fame, too.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I would hope so.
Yeah.
He's the Undertaker.
Well, of course he is.
Undertaker, that is awesome.
Yeah.
He's a fantastic dude.
He really is.
Was his hand just enormous?
Oh, no.
Did he roll his eyes in the back of his head when he shot?
No.
Dang.
Man, I'd have, yeah, I couldn't have been that guy.
It was a lot of.
Hello, Mr. Undertaker.
Can you do this?
Can we take a picture and you put your arm around me?
Yeah, can you, like, pick me up like you're about to drop me on my head like you used to do all those things?
When we sit down at the poker table, I said, hey, if y'all give me any crap, I said, hey, if y'all give me any crap, I said, this man here's my security, he'll take care of the problem.
Oh, big man.
Oh, big man.
I said, big man here'll take care of the problem.
Big man.
And he said, you got it, buddy.
That's what I'm talking about.
Well, let's take our first break.
We'll be back right after this.
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It's warming up.
You know what that means?
That means more outside cooking.
And y'all know we love to eat beef around here.
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Ain't it good?
It's so good.
Our friend, Sao Robertson would say, buy on the grill.
Look, before we got Triedells, getting ready for a cookout, man, somebody had to run the grocery store, do all the things, grab whatever was left in case you were late in the day.
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I just got a notification that there was a...
Uh-oh.
What are you notified of that?
there's a black panther?
No, that there was movement at the crib.
That's the crib.
Literally.
There was movement at the crib or in the crib?
That's what I'm trying to say.
Is it a black panther?
No, it looks like two young humans.
It looked like two wild animals.
They're waking up.
I was trying to figure out which one was.
It's the old Martin boys.
I was trying to figure out which one was causing their mama grief since today's my first day back in the office.
How is it back?
You're back at work now.
Yeah.
How is the first day?
I'll take it.
Okay.
He'll take it more.
He said.
Did you go hunting this weekend?
You said you were going to.
I went Friday.
I didn't see a deer.
Did you take a nap?
Nope.
No?
I was awake the whole time.
Waked the whole time.
Changed trail cameras.
Trying to find a black cat for size.
Okay.
Did you?
No.
Yeah, I'm going to have to buy me some more trail cams.
Oh, God.
I'm serious.
For what?
Where are you going to put them?
I figured out, I figured out, okay, the reason nobody believes in the black
pouncers is because they are not publicized or notarized.
He's going to take them.
So I'm going to publish them.
So I'm going to publicize him, I'm going to notary.
You're going to take them to a notary?
I can tell you what he's going to do.
I notice him, so I'm going to make sure everybody else knows him too.
He's going to put the camera on the ground.
He's going to walk out there about 10 yards and put a pile of food for sweet pee.
And that cat's so big and so fat, you're going to think it's a 100-pound cat.
No.
Because it's already a 60-pound.
Trick photography.
All right.
Well, you know how in the emails I get Black Panther pictures.
And it's always the same, like, three.
Same one.
I got a new one.
Oh, boy.
That's a new one, boys.
Lincoln from Central Missouri.
Oh, that's in the...
He sent this in.
That was a white tail there.
That's a deer.
That's a deer.
Obviously.
But then...
This is what was chasing the deer.
Ooh.
Oh, he says this.
I mean...
Come on, bro.
Things are a foot tall.
Come on.
What?
Black Lab.
That's...
What are you made?
Tells.
Stop hitting me.
Don't even.
It's a black lalb.
Hit him again, Sime.
Lincoln said, now, unlike,
I do think that is a cat.
It does look like a cat.
But I think it's a house cat.
No, it ain't.
That's a black lab.
A young one.
That's all the Zoom you got, John Donnell?
That's all I got.
This is all Lincoln's in.
Hey, it's a black lab.
A young one.
Where do you see dog?
It's a small animal.
It's not a big animal.
It's a, what if it's a young black panther?
No.
Just like.
like sigh. Baby Black Panthers always check out to be house pets.
Say's not going to validate this one. That's because he thinks it's a dog.
It is a dog. It's a young black lab.
So you call it like you see it.
I don't see a lot of canine in that. Oh, do I do.
Legs. The tail looks like a cat.
Legs and the head. Legs and the head.
What about the tail?
I ain't worried about the tail.
That's what you bring up every time.
Spoken like every bobcat.
No.
Photosop.
Like every bobcat believer there ever was.
I ain't worried about that, too.
This is what everybody says about Sye when he says is he saw a Black Panther.
No.
Man, I got excited when I got this email from Lincoln.
No.
That's a fraud.
It's a black man.
There you have it.
There you have it here first, boys.
There you go, Lincoln.
Very clearly a dog.
Well.
No, the one I seen the other day down there was bigger than that one.
Well, I would hope so.
Oh, did you see that?
The way you saw with Stone?
This is a new siding.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Stone was telling me, I said, well, what did you see?
I said, let me tell you what I saw first.
Yeah.
We went up at the Lair by the time.
I get out and I say, okay, yes, about, you know, where I got my wallet in my front pocket.
That's how tall he was.
Stone said, that's pretty close.
You know, and Stone said, I even hate to say this.
He said, I just seen a black cat with a long black tail.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What do you have to say?
And look, it's just about, it was like $1,000.
Show me the body.
He's gone.
Oh, you'd have to have been quick.
He wants to see the dead body.
You'd have to have been quick to even shoot this thing.
Every time.
Too quick.
No time.
Same thing.
In a curve, on the backside of a hill.
I go back to the picture that I know my friend.
Anything but out in a balled open with time to get a shot off.
That that never happens.
I know my friend
My friend took this picture
His name's
Sye you remember when Bull took the picture of the cat
With the teeth coming out of the top
That was true
That's pretty good picture there
Okay for one reason
You can't see all of it good enough
Okay
No no I'll see it
That's a cat though
Yeah
That's a good one there
I've seen that one
That one's been all over the country
Somebody sent that in
You know it's legitimate when it's in a Facebook group called Country Folks.
That is a good one there, though.
Because it's just a nut.
Look, and at the risk of offending some of our fans who may be members of that group.
Yeah, yeah.
I apologize.
That was a good one, though, because it was just dark enough and just, you know, yeah, okay.
It looked awful chocolate, too.
It looked like a chocolate cat, not a black one.
Jonathan from Slidell sent that one in yesterday.
But I'm pretty sure I've seen this photo
That is good
And that's
That country folks says that's in Arkansas
I don't I don't know
South Logan County
I've seen that one
Been in a couple places
Yeah
That one's a good one
They done a good job on that one
Man
But hey no
The one that Bull took
Okay
He works on
You know
It actually blew a transformer
And he pulled it out
after they put it out
That's my problem
I've been looking too low
I need to be looking high
Oh no no no no
Ain't you watch a jungle book
They're right there next to the pigs
It fly
That's cool
No no no but hey I'm telling you
This thing
When you looked at it
That joker had teeth like this
He looked like a vampire
And he was a leg
It was a bat
You're talking about ugly
That boy was a ugly stick
Plus electrocuted
Yeah
You know
What?
But it was wild
Wait so it had
teeth like a vampire are you implying vampires or well no no i'm just curious well hey there is a vampire bat
see okay no no i'm serious that's the name of it and he's got big teeth too okay thank you
well he's a blood sucker or not i don't know but hey now as i think it he is he is a blood sucker
now that he thinks about it no no now as i think about it because it showed him on a on a neck of a cow
I don't even know what we're talking about.
Vampire bat.
Sorry, I was looking up the jungle book because.
Vampire bat.
Vampire bat.
I want to see this picture of him hanging off the neck of a cow.
Yeah, and he likes blood.
Okay.
I'm interested in hanging off the neck of a cow by bat.
I find that truly interesting.
Oh, it's in the truth.
You never ran across that, Mark?
Hey, why we're in a little sidebar waiting on this.
Did you see our friend Marty Smith, who was on our podcast, what he did?
Guinness World Record holder?
Uh-oh.
Is that a cow?
Uh-oh.
That's a pig.
That's a pig.
Uh-oh.
That's all I got it.
And look, he had teeth as big as that thing.
What?
Vampire bats is pretty small, dude.
He fit securely on the back of the neck of a pig, and he had teeth as big as him.
That teeth be about that big, so.
Well, no, I'm just saying, hey.
Vampire bats freak me out.
Bats freak me out.
Why are we talking about?
Bats are wild.
They're nasty.
Okay, it's dangerous, you know, they got a lot of diseases.
The rats of the nighttime sky.
Anyway, yeah, because when the scientists go in to study them, they wear mock gear, okay.
What's that bat?
Oh, yeah, studies on bats because they're nice.
We did some of that mess in college where we like trap bats at night with a net.
Nope.
No, man, I don't like, I don't trust them.
Oh, we've done it with a cane pole.
And a cork on end of it?
No, no.
Or a bobby.
With a little piece of white cloth on it, and you just, whew.
Yeah.
And you just whack.
You know.
What?
It's a lot easier if you put up a piece of net and let them fly into it and drop the net down.
You have to be able to be a lot of fun.
Y'all are knocking them out.
Knock them out what the cane pole was.
They eat mosquitoes.
They do.
I got bat boxes at my house.
No, but they mean.
Oh, no.
They mean.
When you get them untangled out of that net, they mean.
They bite anything around them.
Oh, no.
And not on that.
They're really.
unique.
They're cool, though.
No, no, it's a unique critter.
I just don't want one of them on me.
You know, because they got sonar.
Mm-hmm.
They make a little screech and whatever it bounces off of.
That's how they catch mosquitoes and stuff.
Echo location.
Echo location.
No, no.
I didn't hear nothing bounce back.
No, no, I kept going on.
There ain't no food inside.
Hey, think about the hearing on them things.
Oh, that's a lot of.
Make a little screech and it bounces off of a mosquito.
And then they got him.
Yeah.
In the dark, my...
Yeah, in the dark, no less.
The Phil Mouse is fast.
No, no.
But the...
Hey, that just reminds me, PBS again.
Uh-oh.
No, no.
Here we go.
Buckle up.
Owls.
Ows.
All different kinds of owls.
Yo, you got to think about this.
They got, uh, I think, three sets of hearing devices in their head.
Ears?
Yeah.
One.
And you've got to think of this.
The snow is two foot deep.
There is a field rat or mouse under that two foot snow.
This is true.
I've seen this.
No, no.
They know how fast they've got to fly when they hit that snow.
They got to know how fast they fly and how deep he is and then they get him.
Imagine if you're a rat.
You're up under the snow.
You're like, oh, I got this thinking you're safe.
Yeah, you got two foot of snow on top of it.
you're like man let me go get some seeds just a little cold out i'd be fine ain't no thing
wop and look they're there are only ones that no noise is made when they fly stealth
owls freak me out that's where they come up with the stealth for our our planes was owl they
done studies on him he don't make any noise when he's flying i say exact opposite of our owl no
no he makes a lot of noise well one of one of them does not make any noise he flies he flies
through the night silently.
Silent killer.
Okay, a silent killer.
Ows are cool.
One time I was up in a deer stand
and all of a sudden there was an owl
about three feet from me.
We got one down there where we...
And I don't know where he came from.
We got one down there where we duck hunt,
one of them barn owls.
And a lot of times I mess with people
and pull up to that barn in the dark
and just leave my headlights on.
And when I say, walk in there and get them decoys out of that barn.
And when about the time they bust the door of that barn,
he come flying out that big white face looking at you.
Man, you start saving.
some things in if you don't know he's there.
Me and Stone are deer hunting in my deer stand, okay?
And we've got it where we've got slits about this wide.
So we're sitting there at any time and something comes buzzing by right in front of us.
And he lands on a big oak tree, a knot on it.
And it's an owl.
Well, Stone starts making squeaky noises with his mouth.
I've got on gloves that are brown.
So I get on top of the two before in the slit.
That's dumb.
No, no, no.
You're about to get Talon injected in you.
No, no, no.
So I'm doing this and then getting off the, get, like he's running up and down the board.
You know, Stone is video on this stupid thing because he's sitting around that's not like this.
And when Stone made a little squeaky noise, he's done this.
And then when I done like this, over on it, that sucker here he comes.
After your hand?
Oh, no.
Here he comes.
And Stone fell over backwards.
He was doing a video.
because this thing tried to come in that little bit of split.
Did you move your hand?
Oh, did we move?
Stone fell over.
You big chicken.
And I said, tell me you got that on your video.
He said, no, I was just worried about getting out of the way.
Because he had about a two-foot wingspan.
And he was thinking he coming in and get that mouse.
Yeah, we, I laughed for 30 minutes there at that.
Dear Hunt's over, boys.
We don't run everything off laughing.
It was hilarious
Well, let's take another break
We'll be back right after this
Hey Johnny D
One of them made him squawk back in the day
What happened Johnny D?
Where was that?
That was my mom's in.
Yeah, there was a hurt owl
And we were gonna go get it
And take it to where?
The rescue place out there at Wildlife and Fish
Yeah, so they were like
Just go throw a blanket over it
Well, that thing was hurt
But he was looking at me funny
So we were going to put a blanket over it
Oh, you know
We got a video of that somewhere
Somewhere
I don't know where it is?
I hope not.
And so I go to throw the blanket, well, the wind, the blanket literally just goes and falls straight down.
And I jump back.
Ah, you know.
But we got him.
Well, I didn't do anything.
That was, I got made fun of and then told to go sit on the side and watch.
Somebody else got that way.
We got the cover over him, and I picked him up and put him in a dog kennel and took him out there and formed to fix his wing.
He done broke his wing.
One of them big old grade horn down.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a cool one.
I love him, though.
Oh, no.
They scare me.
There's one by my house right now.
We hear them at night.
Yeah, they're freaky, but I mean, they're cool animals.
I like all things out.
They got a little bitty one.
Screech out.
Yeah, little tiny thing.
Oh, yeah, he live in wood duck boxes.
He's about the size of a dove.
Mm-hmm.
He's smaller than that once you get him in your hand.
There ain't much meat to it.
Because we had...
I banned it a bunch of them.
Christine's mom and dad, he would come up, he had a nest on their porch under.
Yeah, they're cavity nests.
They like to get inside.
of things in nest.
Yeah.
It was cool.
Little old bitty thing,
miniature,
you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When we did it,
when I did it in college for,
um,
wood duck boxes,
they get in them,
them screech owls
were nest in those duck boxes too.
And they,
man,
they's rough on tree frogs.
That's all they ate
was like green tree frogs.
Okay.
I guess because they were little and
they feed them to their little ones.
Yeah.
And I'd go in there,
I'd get to know the whole family
before they got out of there.
But them little rascal's mean too now.
Oh,
no.
He sleep during the day,
but you,
You grab him and wake him up.
He gets a little laugh about him.
And then he really don't like it when you put that band on his leg.
He's pretty, though.
Oh, they're cool.
Yeah, they make it.
There's a red one and a gray one.
And they're same critter, just different color phases.
And, man, they're a neat little animal.
They are.
Can they turn their head all the way around?
They could turn it uncomfortably far.
I don't know that it went all the way, but I'd always try to grab them behind the head.
Next thing you know, he's looking at you.
I'm like, hey.
Time out now.
Don't be doing that.
I'm trying to get away from you.
But I don't know just how far range of motion they got,
but they can go further than you like.
I know that they've got excellent eyesight in the dark,
and their hearing system is out of this world.
They eat a lot of ducks.
Don't let them fool you.
They catch a lot of ducks in them woods.
The big, great horned one.
Yeah, they have.
They hit squirrels bad.
Yeah, they rough on squirrel.
They're pretty effective predators, is what they are.
That's what's cool about that barn owl down there at the camp.
You can go down there and pick up his pellets where he regurgitates all the fur and stuff,
and you go through there and see what he's been eating.
You ain't ever have to do that in school?
Go through an owl pellet.
Oh, no.
Well, they didn't have those classes.
Uh-uh.
At the Christian school?
That's just for us public school.
I would thought that must be a college course.
No, we did that.
We did that.
I did that like three or four different times.
in school and biology classes.
I loved it.
Not all that.
If you're gathering, you know,
it's intelligent gathering.
Huh.
No, I'm serious.
Because Phil, we go out to Darbonne Lake,
you know, and he had 14 holes
to bass fish,
well, the first thing he'd do
when he'd catch one out of, you know,
just out in the water somewhere,
he'd take a filet knife, cut him,
slice him, and cut his stomach open.
See what he was eating.
See what he was eating?
Oh.
See what he was eating.
I didn't know where we were going with it.
No, no. Hey, see what he was eating,
and you'd hear that 20-horse monkey crank up,
and hey, here we go.
He said, I know where a whole bunch of that is.
Then we'd come around and be, shut it off,
and then have a cast.
Thought he was tying something inside of his stomach,
sending him back out in the water and go find the rest of fish.
I didn't know what he's, I didn't know where he's going on.
And then, hey, he knew where it was at
and go wear him out, fill a cooler up.
There you go.
Just a matter of minutes.
I'm serious.
I'm serious.
Of minutes.
Oh, hey, intelligence gathering.
Intelligence, gal.
And the only problem is, when you're hunting that owl?
Well, he's hunting everything around him.
That baby there, you know.
Whoping them, too.
Yeah, and he wins.
Yeah, in the end.
Yeah, he wins.
The owl wins.
Yeah, no, he's a...
They've got some, you know, unreal.
Their hearing system is three different distinct things that it does.
Yeah.
Just think about your old...
depth of, you know, figuring the depth on, like, snow, and then knowing how fast he's got to
fly and hit it to catch him. Hey, but that all started with this one single cell thing that
called out the water. Yeah, yeah, sure it did. Sure it did. I figure I'd get you fired up on that
one. Yeah, that dog won't hunt for it. Okay. So, let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. So I was
helping Phil, back in my younger days, I was helping fill with a, with a, with a, with a,
duck blind and I we were we were riding by one of his bass holes and he just wanted to throw a
lure in there and see if there were any bass there but the way he did it was unusual to me
because he threw it out there and just reeled it as fast as he could reel it and I said that's
no finesse that's the way you do it and he was like yep every time I throw it out it's just fast as you
can reel it did you ever know well no no it depends on what the bait
That's like the, uh, uh, I've got to crutch the topwater bait that you bring back.
It's got this.
Wopper plopper.
The wopper.
Yeah.
It's imitating the bait.
Hmm.
Okay.
I thought it was unusual.
I just, I mean, we would, we were.
He was looking for a school of fish.
Yeah.
Maybe so.
Trying to get the whole school.
And back then, reels were slow.
Yeah.
Maybe so.
Yeah, they ain't like they are now.
Then the other time, okay, you've got to throw it, let it go all the way of the bottom.
and then just you actually bunny hop it off of the bottom.
Just bring it up, let it fall.
Oh, yeah.
Bunny hopper.
And then, yeah.
And then normally when you bunny hop it, you bring it up,
and when it falls, that's when they knock your fire out of it.
Yeah.
Because we did that with Bull over on Jay Fenton's place.
It's a lead head, okay,
and you actually put your line through the lead head weight in the middle,
tie a treble hook on it,
and it's got a little spinner on the,
the back of it. A little bitty thing.
That costs like 25, 30 cents a piece.
You know, inexpensive.
So if you hang it up and break it off, hey, put another on it.
He bought a hundred of them.
Run it back.
Yeah, and they will, they'll eat it up.
Y'all got any of them?
Sure.
I don't even know what you have.
I'll make sure we do.
Wing ding, wing ding or something like that.
All it is, it's just got a little, it's a little, lay ahead.
It's got a hole through the middle of the bait,
tie a treble hook on the bottom of it, and it's got a little spinner.
You just throw it out there and let hit the bottom, and then you just bunny hop it, what I call it.
Just pick it up and, you know, like four inches, let it fall.
And every time you let it fall, whoa.
There you go.
Then bring them in.
Well, let's bunny hop our way in this next break.
We'll be back.
We'll be back.
Fennie hop our way.
We go.
Energizer of bunny boys.
Johnny D.
No.
Okay.
What you mean?
No.
I only bring it up because there's probably somebody listening to this that may be
going through the same thing.
or has recently...
I did not have a good weekend.
Or is preparing to go through the same thing.
What?
My dog is no longer with us.
Uh-oh.
Oh, no.
That's bad.
Dublin passed away.
Yep, that's bad.
Yeah, it was a rough weekend.
Oh, boy.
Well, I thought I was going to be good, too.
That's the weirdest part.
Oh, man, he's 14 years of your life.
Are you kidding?
Yeah.
So I got him whenever...
Geez, Louise, here we go again.
I got him when I was not...
19 and a half, I guess.
And you were still young enough then to count half years.
That's good.
Yeah.
I like that.
19 and a halfish.
And I thought he died about 20 times by now, but he just kept trucking along.
Keep hanging on.
Hanging out with all three of our kids.
But yeah, I'm Friday.
I had to take him to the vet.
And it was time.
Oh, boy.
You know, you don't know.
It's tough because you don't want your dog to suffer.
and I
Amanda that
I didn't know
The vet told me
It was the right time
So she made me feel better
That's good
Shout out to the people
At the animal hospital
Right up the road
They were incredible that morning
Watching a big dude like me
Boo
Who loved the dog
I mean I was a man
And I didn't think I would be
Because you know
How can you not be?
I don't know
That dog had been through
Every milestone
A year to life
That's your child
little buddy there.
Yeah, look, there we are.
Way back when.
Yeah.
That's me in Dublin.
And then here's my, I mean, we've been going through the pictures and all that.
Look at all that.
Look at those guys.
Look at him.
Look at a little fat beans there in the middle.
And so the toughest part, and I mean, I literally took a day off of work.
I was a, I knew it would be a sad day.
I did not know I was going to be a complete and total disaster of a mess.
When the kids got home from school.
That's rough.
Nobody prepares you for that and why.
Like,
I, like, and two years
ago he got bit by that raccoon,
and I thought that was it.
Like, when I took him the vet, I was like,
I don't, like,
I don't think he's going to make it.
Two years later, here we are.
So, like, I kind of had the conversation with him then.
About a month ago, we talked about it,
and they, like, cried themselves to sleep.
So I was like, oh, boy.
But they took it all right.
I don't know.
How old are they again?
My eight, five, and three.
Eight, six, and three.
Yeah.
I don't even know how my kids are.
Then any questions come up since it happened?
Like any of them forget and then be like, where's Dublin?
Not really.
I keep doing stuff though that like, and I go to like, like when I got home from church yesterday, I was, I went to let him out.
And I was like, yeah, let me go.
Never mind.
Yeah.
No, no.
That happens.
That reminds me one bullet by a little curdog that we had growing up.
We're getting on the bus.
He actually gets run over in front of the bus.
All the kids, all the kids on the school bus, knew him.
So mad.
He gets run over with a wagon behind a tractor.
What turn did we just take?
Well, no, no.
I was just going to tell you, hey, and look, by the time we got to school, everybody on the bus is crying, including the bus driver.
And when we go to class, everybody in class is crying because they all knew him.
Oh, boy.
Okay, so that's a monumental thing there.
Oh, there's a little.
Your childhood friend is gone.
Oh, yeah.
And they don't know life.
That's what, yeah.
I mean, our dog Jude is eight now.
So, you know, in a lab, we're running, we're running out on lab years.
I mean.
Basset hounds are like 11 to 12.
And like, Dublin was like, no, he ate more chocolate.
He chewed up more diapers.
He did not.
He shouldn't have been.
And, you know, the Lord bless us with a dog that had nine lives.
Yeah.
So, you know, it was tough.
And Ben's took him.
probably the hardest.
I can see that.
So our dog sits on our back porch
and our house is up off the ground.
There's like 15 steps down
and he just looks over his kingdom of our backyard.
And when I told him, Ben's like
walked over and looked at and I lost.
I was like, stay strong, stay strong.
Look at my wife.
My wife who, you know,
dog would run his course with her,
but she's boohooing and then
this is the line that
just the whole house melted down.
Ben's looked at me and goes, so we don't have a
dog anymore. And I was like, my wife was like, because we were, we've known it was coming.
That's when you get on that phone, quick. Say, what kind you want? What are you thinking?
We want something that don't shed.
Now, Basset-Hounds. Well, I'm glad you, I'm glad you told the kids. You know what I mean?
I'm glad you told them. Oh, no, it was a life lesson. And what's funny is, so a lot of our
friends are, you know, they're in the same stage of life as us. So, you know, it's a normal thing
to get married, which I got the dog. Allison dumped me, so I got a dog named Dublin to cope.
and then she came crawling back.
Is your next one going to be named Belfast?
No, we're not.
I like it.
I'm just curious if we're going to keep the Irish theme or like.
So it's only,
it's pretty fresh and, you know, this morning was tough too.
I was like, this is just, well, I went back to work.
I knew when you texted me and said, hey, do you want his food?
I'm cleaning out all this stuff.
You were like, I got, I don't want to look at this stuff.
I don't want to be reminded.
I need it out.
And look, I get it.
Yeah.
I've been there, done that.
When ours passes away,
that we got Jude like two months before we got married.
I mean, Jude had been there through our whole marriage.
Yeah.
Like, so when that happens, it's tough.
I'm going to try to hopefully see it coming and have Jude 2 there about six months before that happens.
See, we decided we're going to take a little break.
But this morning, I might have looked at a couple bass in a pump there.
Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that.
Let me tell you, I'm glad that you told your kids because,
My parents didn't tell me, me and my brothers when we were growing up.
We had two dogs, Fredis and Freddie.
There we go.
Who named them dogs?
I was six years old.
I don't know who named them.
All I know is I walked out in the backyard and the dogs were gone.
And so my dad was like, yeah, I had to take them to the dog hospital.
You know, so they were gone a few days.
So when we were at church, I think it was a Wednesday night.
Sister Sarah said, are there any prayer request?
I said, yeah, Freddie and Credis are in the dog hospital, and I need them back, you know?
And so we prayed for the dogs, and then my older brother said, I had to go to Sister Sarah and tell her the dogs were already dead.
So I didn't find out until later in life, you know, that the dogs, uh-uh, they were gone.
I wish somebody would have sat down and said, these are life lessons.
Listen, you know, first of all, prepare your child for what's fixing to happen.
you know, give them a little advance notice and be healthy about it, not just like,
somebody stole them in the middle of the night.
We did that the best we could.
And then I buried them right over kind of beside our driveway, which I'm starting to think was a mistake.
Because every time I leave and every time I come home, I'm like, I look over it.
Yeah, but that's where I buried him.
And then, but after we told them, we all walked down there.
Had a little service.
We just said, we all bawling together.
Ben's prayed and it was just like thank you for that it was it was it sucked yeah but it was a really
you know 14 years of your life with a dog I've I've been quoted on this podcast to say dogs aren't in heaven
wrong I will say uh Dublin's got a 50 50 shot because he's going to have to face some judgment
for some of the things you did no but I hope he's there oh he is there and
They made a movie about it for crying out of life.
Go to heaven.
I wish you'd quit denying that.
All right.
I'm in.
Yeah.
They all go there.
Maybe he's hanging out with Sarge, my bad's at home from when I was, baby.
There you go.
Sarge didn't like me, and I didn't like Sarge, but now that I'm older.
But, yeah, it was a tough.
I'm still kind of just blah.
Oh, and you still will be.
Thanks.
I mean, that's just part of it.
The grieving process.
It's going to take you a while to get over it.
Absolutely.
But he was a cool dog, and we had a lot.
lot of fun together and he was loud he probably kept jeff and jesska up across the pond for
they're probably wondering what's happening one thing i remember about that dog he had the longest
toenails he was a digger son thick he could have dug from here to china yeah i mean like legit
like he that boy could dig he could sniff it out too so and he whipped that possum that one time it got
oh he's definition of a hound dog and that's good for him he lived hey he lived a life worthy of a
hound dog so that's good for her a lot of naps on that back porch yeah i don't like looking at my back porch
right now because he's supposed to be sleeping out there but hey get you another one he'll sleep out
there oh we're going to come home all you got to do is come home with one i'm i ain't ready for dub i
ain't ready for dublin he ain't ready boy i ain't ready but one day we probably will be and what are you
gonna call him like dubs like do so if it's well i might get a girl yeah and that would have been
flow. I just, I like the name flow for a dog.
Progressive, that's cool.
Flow.
Well, I was, you know, but Dublin, I don't think there will ever be another Dublin.
There you go.
Hey, deuce, dubs.
There's all kinds of things.
Your wife will come up with something.
I'd probably just let my kids name it.
It'll probably be what was weird as Freddy and Cretty.
I still don't know what Cretty is.
And Coutrons.
Well, Dublin, rest in peace.
That's it.
Oh, he's doing all right.
Rest assured that we know where you're at because they made a movie about it.
All dogs go to heaven.
All dogs go to heaven.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it and every cat faces judgment.
Oh, they don't even get that.
Sweet me.
Sweet P, you're out, baby.
No, I didn't say he's out.
I just said you faced judgment.
More harsh judgment.
He's going to answer more.
You got judgment going to sweet.
Yeah, sweet P going to have to answer for that.
I just want to say before we go to break, though.
Go ahead.
I didn't cry.
Okay.
Hey.
That's close, but I'm sorry.
That's good.
Hey, no, man.
If you do, sometimes you just got to get it out of you.
Hey, we've all been there.
I haven't cried today. That's good.
So it's coming.
No, I will when I drive home.
For sure, I will.
Last night, my mom, we go eat dinner at my mom and dad's house, and I didn't see my mom yet.
She just comes up and hugs me and kisses me on the cheek, and I just lose it.
You know what it.
My dad goes, now, why would you do that to the boy?
Why would you do that?
And my mom goes, I just, oh, it's tough and I haven't seen him.
Oh, fantastic.
Well, look at that.
You can always look back at that.
right there. That's a picture that I will always have right there.
Guaranteed. Look at that big-headed bends. Good group.
All right, we'll be back right after this.
Johnny D. What are you going to talk about?
Dog.
Never done that.
I don't know.
Cold.
Martin.
I've come up with.
I love my dog.
I love that dog.
I love all dogs.
All right.
Peyton from Monroeville, Alabama.
Oh, okay.
He's from L.A. too. South Alabama.
Alabama.
Alabama.
All right.
So he's got a six-year-old son.
He loves hunting, fishing, all the things.
Fairly avid outdoorsman.
Whenever they get a chance, he wants to be outside.
Great thing.
He loves hunting.
He's just super into it, right?
Mm-hmm.
So that's where he's too into it, maybe.
Over the last year or two, he has become obsessed with the idea that any wild animal
that may cross, it's time to take them out.
I like him.
Hunting style.
So he wants them to be passionate about the outdoors,
but he wants, how do we dial back the, if it's brown, it's down, like we're just
going to take out everything.
Oh, the son?
Yeah, the son.
The kid is having that problem?
No, not the adult.
Not the adult.
No problem.
Not a problem at all.
Every kid goes through it.
See, I had no idea.
It's the steps of an outdoorsman.
Okay.
You all, you got these states.
I call it his kids in that bloodlust stage where all that matters is the kill.
Nothing else matters right now for whatever reason.
I think you see it in like animals that hunt to survive.
I mean, I think it's all a process in learning what that is about.
He just has to temper it from his side of teaching his son instead of about the hunt and the kill.
Let's talk about conservation.
Let's talk about why we do these things.
Let's change the narrative from the hunt.
and the success of the kill to why we're doing what we do.
And his kid at six is old enough.
Then you start taking him out there looking at trees, looking at grasses,
looking at this, looking at that, and start explaining that side.
And you'll see this kid.
So you got him hooked.
Yeah, he's done.
You got him hooked.
You did the hard part.
You got him hooked on the outdoors in a technology-based time.
You've done the hard part.
Now let's teach him why those things are there,
why we do what we do.
It is not simply for a hunt and a kill.
It is to provide meat for your family.
It is to manage populations to control disease.
It is, there's a hundred different things of why hunting is conservation and why we fund all the dollars that allow that to happen.
That's the story you have to start telling him now.
You got the hard, you got the fun, the adrenaline, that's there.
That's a hard thing to get in them.
But once that's in them, it don't leave.
now you have to harness that energy into something better,
which means taking him on stuff of more than just the hunt.
Take him on the work days,
take him on the stuff that is not very fun to do when it comes to hunting.
And then his kid would be like, oh, I get it now.
This whole process makes sense.
Imitate the behavior that you want him to see.
That's exactly right.
If you and your buddies get fired up about it and still are celebrating
and trying to stack deer up like cord wugs, you're in Lower Alabama.
I know you ain't duck hunting.
so I'm assuming that he's got fired up about deer hunting
and I know y'all have very liberal laws in Alabama
when it comes to female deer which you should you got a bunch of them
stack deer up like cordwood is a new one by the way well I mean I'm just saying
that's what that's what happens on them things when you go to the camp and the camp's got
30 members and everybody killed one they're stacked up at that skinning shed like cordwood
and so you have to start yeah I mean just like philip says start showing start showing a little
restraints no I tell you what today we ain't gonna do that we'll just
and watch them. And then you just start developing our appreciation for nature in there.
Because the fun is obviously there. I mean, Ben, my buddy Ben's two kids went through it.
Like, I was like, there ain't going to be a deer left here by the time these boys get done.
I mean, it was, they was, fill them tags up, fill them six up. And then we started involving
them and the tractor work and the chainsaw and in and the hanging of the stands. And then all of a
sudden it meant more to them so now when they go they enjoy the hunt like they're there there for the
full circle so that's where this kid's at and you'll be fine i'll say that that i've learned something
from sye not i mean we've hunted a lot together but um just the respect that he has for animals
um when you were hunting in germany you used to say that there was a well they they they honor the
game you know which i i enjoyed you know because like they give you
what they call the last rites.
Like when you shoot a deer, okay,
you break a limb with some, you know,
acorns on it and put it in his mouth.
That's cool. You're honoring the game
that you just harvested.
Yeah, I got you. Okay.
And like, I tell people all the time,
especially animal rights, wackos.
Okay.
Wackos.
Well, no, no, I do.
They tell me, why do you shoot that
defenseless animal?
And I always tell them,
you're showing your ignorance.
Number one, they're not defenseless.
Number two, okay, I spend more time watching wildlife
because if pulling the trigger was all there was to hunting,
I'd sell ever gun I had and never go again.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Good point.
I actually go out and enjoy what God has created, okay,
and then actually put us in charge of
to take care of them, manage them,
Okay.
You know, and the Bible says it very plainly.
Okay.
You know, rise, kill, and eat.
Okay, so I've got orders from headquarters to, hey, kill it and grill it, Jack.
And matter of fact, I love it.
I do the same thing.
Every duck I kill that either the dog brings me or I go out there and get it.
The first thing I do, I pick them up by the foot.
Every one of them, I grab him by his foot, and I just look at him.
And I sit there and I wonder, what all had you?
you seen.
No, no.
What on your trips to and fro, however old you are, whether you're six months old or
whether you're, you know, five or six years old, and you only know that if they're
banded.
But just looking at that, I'm like, man, what have you encountered along the way to the time
you got right?
You get a band and it's 12 years old.
This duck you just shot has made 12 migrations.
Yeah.
Okay, which is pretty amazing.
It is.
Okay.
He made it all the way from the Canadian prairies 12 times.
This time, he messed up.
He got in front of you, and you took him out.
Yeah.
It's just a cool thing.
But you go through that.
I mean, every hunter goes through those stages of development.
I see it every time.
Every time you hunt with kids, a lot of time they're in that more, more, more, more, more, more stage.
And then you get to after.
And it don't really matter the age, because you can be a kid at 30 doing this if it's new to you.
it's more, more, more, and then you start, it starts tempering, and the more becomes quality,
then the quality becomes conservation.
And next thing you know, you end up sitting at the camp because the weather's not exactly how you wanted it,
and you watch stuff fly by, watch deer walk by, you ain't even mad at them anymore.
That's what I call it.
You just ain't even mad at them.
You look at them and say, you know what, today I'm good.
I'm fine.
Because up there with Red Dog, when we're in the lodge.
but he's got a big fine spot scope.
And there's deer coming out to feeder,
and we're watching them, you know,
we're watching them through the deal.
Talking about, well, that one there is four years old.
He's got one more year,
and we've got to chase him down and pop him.
Okay.
So it's more to it, okay,
and especially when you get,
Stone has got me into the management part of deer hunting.
Yeah, that's the fun part.
You no longer need instant gratification.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a lot more fun to watch, okay, because last year, okay, we looked at, oh, probably 25, 8 points.
Yeah, okay, and then we had a hit list, which was great, and the best part of it was, okay, we had Levin Deer we wanted to shoot, and we killed every one of them, but the cool part was everybody in our outfit killed, you know, we had.
we didn't like I didn't kill six
I killed one deer
I was specifically hunting that one deer
and that's the best part to me
no no pick one and match wits with it
don't go don't go window shopping
and look it
it was about seven times
before I actually got finally he walked out
and I got him yeah
pick you on and match wits with him
then when you do that it's a lot of fun
oh no and if you need meat there's plenty of doze
that need to be taken for the health of the land
no because we just did that
The other day, what? It was Chad's little girl went with Emily, and then B.K. and me in Stone, and I shot a doe.
BK.K. shot a doe. And Emily shot a doe. So I got to hunt on Youth Week.
Yeah. He's still 14. There you guys. I'm never going old.
Well, you want to send us out of here, Johnny D.
Yeah. So here's the one my dad sends me verse every morning. And the day after Dublin passed, this is the one he sent me. So Psalm 42-5, Why My Soul? Are You? I. Are you?
you downcast, why so disturbed within me.
Put your hope in God, for I will praise him, my Savior and my God.
Even on our toughest days, there's still hope in the Lord, and we always got hope with
him.
So no matter what you're going through, if it's a dog dine, which on the grand scheme of
things can tough in the moment, but it's pretty light.
If it's a family member, whatever it is, we still have hope in Jesus.
Amen.
And if we're following him, this whole life here on this glue and green.
green ball we call earth can be pretty fantastic.
Yeah, amen.
Amen.
And very short in the grand scheme of what we believe in.
All right, we'll see y'all next time right here.
We're out.
