Duck Call Room - Justin Martin Has a Creepy Premonition — Then the Fire Trucks Show Up!
Episode Date: April 9, 2024Uncle Si is happy to ask Brian Rucker the tough questions about his prison time, and Rucker is happy to answer truthfully. John-David susses out Rucker’s true and hilarious motivation for getting a ...black belt in taekwondo in the first place and Stone drops in to demonstrate a few jiu jitsu techniques on his newest student. Martin has what the boys are convinced is a paranormal experience when he wakes to his son's fire truck toy lighting up for no reason in the middle of the night…and a few minutes later, the local fire department calls. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Are we good now, Hunter?
Are we free to start the Duck Call Room podcast?
Oh, point.
We're free to start.
And we actually have a plan today.
Do we?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
We have a plan.
You must have one because I don't know.
For the first time in the history of the Duck Call Room podcast,
there is a single note that has been taken.
Oh, yeah.
And it will be talked about today.
I don't know if it's in the first one.
But we do have somewhat of an outline.
in the form of a single note,
which we'll get to later.
But Ruckers in the house, everybody.
Be Ruck.
Welcome back.
When I'm here, that means that literally nobody else was available to be here today.
That's not.
No, that's not true.
I mean, it's kind of true, but.
I mean.
Hey, I'll say this.
You've become the first alternate.
Hey, you're up there.
Yeah.
You're like a seventh member of the duck call room.
Right.
That's like the third string quarterback that's first on the practice team.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they generally make like all state academic.
Hey, but you know what?
They make six figures too.
They're doing good.
So look, it ain't nothing to sneeze.
I hate to break it to you, buddy.
I got nobody in here making six figures.
No.
Well, maybe one of us.
But not from this room.
He has to make it collectively.
He's got to go out.
It's not happening here in the,
but thanks for listening.
Like and subscribe so one day Rucker can be making it.
And at this point, like subscribe and book us to come to your place.
We'll be there in a hurry.
And if you're interested in God,
you can find him on cameo.
And if you want,
Sa,
I'm like,
does Godwin have a cameo?
Yes,
we can get you a Gobwin cameo
for like your birthday or something,
right?
Oh, man.
Funny with that,
that would be funny.
Just get,
I would probably,
I'd probably just text him and be like,
oh,
you got,
you got,
you got,
what was all this note business you was talking about?
It's a funder's computer.
Oh,
this is going to be John David's
attempt to debunk some.
You're talking music.
No, no, no, no, no.
This is Jay Stone's attempt to debunk.
Now, to be fair, we're not Mythbusters.
And we're not Mythbusters.
We have no, we just go with what the people say.
A few of us do believe in mythical creatures.
Right, yeah.
We are not Mythbusters.
They're not mythical if they're real.
They're not mythical if they're real.
We believe in creatures.
Sorry.
A conspiracy theory isn't a conspiracy if it's true.
It's a theory.
It's not even a theory.
It's just historical fact.
Are we diving down conspiracy theories?
You have?
You need to talk about.
No, that's what I was fixed out.
Are we going light today, or do we want to get heavy?
Well, considering three of us in here is over 250 pounds, we're probably going to be heads.
We're starting heavy.
Time out, two of you.
Yeah.
I've left that group.
240?
No, you hadn't.
Uh-uh.
2.30.
I'm so hungry.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't look healthy.
Excuse my ignorance.
I apologize.
It looks like you haven't had any nourishment.
I haven't.
Oh, since too.
But since there's four of us in here, there is four.
That's why I said, do we want to go light stuff or do we want to go heavy stuff?
We're going to do some mixed martial arts today.
Oh, was that the note you're talking about?
In person?
Sign me up.
Well, I mean, he's got a track.
If he's got, I don't know.
Okay, so here's the note.
Here's the note.
So Stone comes in, Rucker.
I don't know if you watch the Duck Call Room podcast.
It's available where all your podcast.
podcast or YouTube, all the places.
I watch it every time an episode comes out.
That you're on?
I mean, anytime I mention it.
He watches same day on those.
Other ones, he catch them when he catches.
Sir, I agree with this and don't hold you.
Nothing against you for it.
But Stone said you've showed up to the Jiu-Jitsu gym,
and he's like, yeah, except one thing he said that made us all pause.
And this is where my note comes in.
Rucker, Black Belt, Ta-Quit-Wat,
Taekwondo question mark.
Senior second degree black belt.
Oh, see, that's, we're going to need.
So do you all want the story? Do you want me to tell you how that's possible?
I'll, yes.
Okay, great.
If you've ever listened to my testimony, you'll hear me talk about Taekwondo heavily in my early years.
I didn't play football.
I didn't play basketball.
What I did was martial arts.
This all got spanned or spurred on due to my love for the.
the Ninja Turtles as a young child.
It's true.
I'm just telling you fake.
Hold on.
Do you have nun chugs?
No.
Do you have a favorite ninja turtle?
Taekwondo is hand and foot combat.
There's no weapons.
But, but.
But even Ninja Turtles, the weakest one had a stick.
Well, but yeah.
Favorite Ninja Turtle, though.
That's important.
Well, it's easy.
It's Michelangelo.
Are you implying something by you saying the weakest one at a turtle or stick?
Yeah.
I'm just saying.
The purple.
Well, okay.
All right.
I was just, yeah.
Donatello.
Donatello.
Donatello is the weakest.
Donatello.
Donatello is the weakest one.
And you're probably a Raphael guy.
I'm a Raphael guy.
You're red.
You can see it.
You can see a Raphael guy from across the room.
So you are blood?
No, absolutely not.
I mean, you're red.
Yeah, that was before any of the colors came into play in my life.
You know what I mean?
But you are Raphael.
Actually, funny story.
Whenever I was a kid, my favorite color was red primarily because of Raphael.
And I would wear red all the time in my life.
my neighborhood until I learned that that was a bad idea and that we are not allowed to wear red
in my neighborhood.
Yeah.
Y'all are Leonardo people.
Yeah.
There you go.
I'm more of a Michelangelo fellow myself.
That man, come to no shock to anybody.
That man, love pizza.
My question is, why did you choose the Taekwondo?
So, you know, really, I don't remember how that happened.
Like, I don't remember choosing.
I think my mom and my grandma were just, like, inquiring about karate.
different stuff like that because it's something I wanted to do.
Oh, okay.
So they put me in it.
And I actually became a black belt before my 13th birthday.
And I was number one in the nation in forms, number one in the nation in free design,
and number three in the nation in sparring.
We did a bunch of different tournaments all the time.
And there was a family there that kind of took me in, took care of me and stuff.
Actually, Taekwondo was it like, so we were so poor that we didn't have any money for,
like a memorial service.
a funeral for my mom.
And so the Taekwondo school actually put on the memorial service for my mom there at the
Taekwondo school.
And so, yeah.
And then I started selling crack cocaine.
That's not funny.
But I was thinking,
it kind of is.
It's hilarious that your transition was great, sir.
How do we just now find that, like, sir, I've been very close to you for a long time.
It's been a known thing.
Matter of fact, you just don't work.
I actually brought the single picture that I have available from those.
I have seen that.
I have seen the picture of Black Belt and Taekwondo.
Yeah.
Repeat what you helped.
The belt.
Yeah, the belts.
So, well, no, this is just like, so they would do like these top 10 in the, you know,
youth division because I was a kid.
Yeah, they called it junior, basically.
the, you know, and it was a national taekwondo, you know, basically, they determined it based on the amount of trophies that you would get at competitions.
Okay.
And so I was first in forms, which in Taekwondo, you have a form that you per, that you are supposed to learn and demonstrate of movements in each belt category.
Okay.
Right.
So you have a white belt form, blue belt, yellow belt, you know what I mean.
And it's getting higher all over.
Yeah, yeah.
And then, and so whenever we'd go to competitions,
I would always do really well with those.
My secret was my mom would starch my uniform so,
so much that every time I would kick, it would, like, pop.
And so, like, it would just leave a lasting impression on, like, the judges.
You know what I'm saying?
This is a true story.
I mean, like, you can, there's people that can verify this.
You can take the boy out of Texas,
but you can't take texts out of, boy, they starch in his uniform.
All the man out there in a ghee brought to you by Wranglers.
No, no.
Like he says, because I was in the military, okay, and I starched my fatigue so bad that to this day,
I don't have any hair on my leg.
Okay, because it's so, you know, it rubs it off.
Can confirm.
Okay, so when he kicked, like he said, yeah, oh, I can imagine the pop it did give.
And that stuff's made out of, like, Canvill.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
You know.
And so, all right.
And then free design is where you create your own form, right?
So you basically become an artist.
Yeah, you create your own form and then you demonstrate it at the competition.
And you won first in that, right?
First in that in the nation.
And then sparring.
And then sparring was like, you know, where you put on gear and you spar.
It's a point system and everything like that.
And so I was number.
number three in the nation.
And two of the guys that was on my Taekwondo team were number one and two.
So on our Taekwondo team, we had one, two, and three in the nation all there.
Matter of fact, one of them was in my wedding when I got married in October.
His family took me in and took care of me and stuff for years.
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And now the burning question we all have,
do you remember any of it?
I mean, I got some muscle memory, but like, you know.
I mean, if I put this cup on that table,
Can you kick it?
It ain't going to look good.
Is form not be up to the bar?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, this was a very long time ago.
But when you earn a black belt, like, are you a black belt forever?
Or can you lose it?
Well, so if you spend technically yet, but for my understanding, right?
Like, so I've been out of it for, you know, over a decade, you know, easily, two decades.
I thought you've been running around here for a decade.
You know what I mean?
And you chop suey nothing.
So, like, would, like, if you go back, essentially, like, I wouldn't still be a black belt.
Okay.
I would have to.
You start back over.
You're starting over.
I don't know if you start over because you still have the fundamentals, you know,
that, like, a white belt would have, but.
I would think that would be kind of like riding the bicycle.
You've learned it.
Okay.
You may not be in top form when you've done it, but you would still have a lot of it.
Well, it's so, like, all right.
So after, you know, after I got out of prison and then me and my kids' mom was moving all over Texas,
at one period of time, we actually went back to Umbal, which is right outside of Houston.
And she was staying with her mom and I was staying with the family that took me in during my Taekwondo years house.
And they were still actively going to Taekwondo.
And so I went up there after several.
years going to prison and everything else
went up there just to
like say hi to my old instructor
and stuff who was actually the only
person that wrote me a letter while I was incarcerated
he was the only person
that ever wrote me. That I communicated
where you actually. Yeah and so
I went up there
and you know they it was like
hey you know why don't you put on some
gear and spar with us right?
And I did some stuff he's like man you got good
muscle memory and
you know so I mean but you
know that's in the martial arts right like some of this stuff like you know whenever jay said hey don't
tell nobody about that because in jiu jitzy every martial arts like there's a kind of like this
unspoken kind of um like negative outlook on a different form of martial arts right yeah so like
y'all all think y'all's is the well yeah right right right right to some degree and and say in saying
that some of them just do not
blend well, right? So hand and foot combat does not blend well with grappling and submission work.
So, you know, because the reality is, yeah, I can punch you in the face, but if you get me on the
ground, I'm toast. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, because you weren't trained for that.
No, which is actually how I cracked my rib was because I'm accustomed to guard my face. Yeah.
In Jiu-Jitsu, if you guard your face, they're going to isolate your arm.
I isolated my arm, put it to the mat, jumped across my body, being this, I mean, he's not a small human, right?
Yeah.
Huh?
Who?
David Martinez.
Oh, yeah.
Big guy.
Right?
Plus he's got a one.
Well, yeah, he's a purple belt.
I mean, he knows his stuff.
Like, you know, and so he jumps across my body, and it just, I mean, I cracked the rib.
You chose to fight Martinez?
Let me tell you something about me, okay?
Let me tell you something about me.
This isn't going to come across as, like, neat, by the way.
No, no, no.
I'll say this, man.
Through the life that I've lived,
my days of being scared of another man are far behind me.
I don't care.
I'll get beat up to prove I ain't scared of nobody.
I'm not, there's a difference between being smart and being scared.
No, I never said I was smart.
Okay.
I never said all smart.
That's fine.
As long as you're like, hey, I ain't scared and I'm kind of dumb.
No, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
Y'all said something here, okay.
I support you.
If you don't fear something.
You're not smart.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fear is a healthy thing God gave us.
Oh, yeah, I agree.
But hey, when I was saying light or heavy, here's my question because of your lifestyle.
Mm-hmm.
And all the experiences you've had in your life.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What would be, what's the most important thing to life?
No, no.
No, no.
I get it.
I'll be back in 10 minutes.
Knock this one out.
No, no, because I...
Hey, next time I'm ashamed.
I want to hear his take on this, okay?
I like that, though.
I like that.
What's the most important thing in life?
Yeah.
That's an easy answer, by the way.
Don't that's actually...
It's actually an easy answer.
The most important thing in your life is your relationship to the creator.
Your relationship to the creator.
And here's the reason why it's the most important thing.
Because this life is nothing but available.
right?
Yep.
The only thing that truly matters is who's your master,
how you love him,
and your understanding of him loving you,
and spending an eternity in heaven
because of the sacrifice of Jesus.
In essence, nothing else really matters, right?
So whenever I was a kid,
I remember I was supposed to fight this other kid.
His name was Greg.
He's a little bit older than me,
but I was scared to death.
I did not want to fight Greg, right?
And Greg showed up at my buddy's house and was like, no, we're fighting.
And I was like, nope, I ain't doing it.
And I stood in his driveway.
He was like, nope, I ain't doing it.
Nope, I ain't doing it.
And everybody around me basically like, I mean, they criticized me.
Like, it was the worst feeling in the world.
It's worse than getting beat up is to know that there's some opposition out there.
And you are too afraid to take a step towards it.
Right. Now, this is a lesson in just about anything. Most people's massive pursuit of comfort
in their inability to face opposition is the reason why their life is in shambles, right?
We have to be willing to face opposition with the confidence of knowing who our creator is
in order to grow and achieve something. None of us would be sitting here today if we just let the
fear of what could happen keep us from forward progress. It just, none of us would be here.
Oh, preaching.
And so.
I'm about to become a second on Rucker's show.
Well, it's so.
This is way easier.
Well, so.
I love it.
So what I'm saying is after feeling how I felt by not going out there and fighting Greg,
the next guy's name was Bud, right?
And Bud was like the golden gloves of the hood.
Like Bud beat up everybody.
Yeah.
He'd beat up older kids and everything else.
He was the man.
And one day.
A Debo, if you will.
Yeah, yeah.
No, for sure.
And skinny, I mean, like, people talk about size.
I'm telling you, some dude, it just don't matter, right?
When you're bad, you're bad.
Right.
Climb you like a cat squirrel.
Oh, man.
No, I mean, he'll be, I remember two dudes try to jump him in the gas station
and they were cleaning up both them dudes' blood.
Like, I mean, like, dude was just, he just got it.
Yeah, worst whooping I ever got somebody by half my side.
This is a good one, too.
Well, no, no.
That's why, hey, don't judge your book by its cover.
Be fair, though.
He hit me first.
Well, well, hey.
I'm just saying
I never started more
Yeah
So anyways right
Like so Bud
Bud
Me and him got into it
At the bus stop
One day
And Bud beat me up
I mean
Oh man
He beat me up
He beat me up good
Had me crying
Had me crying
Had me crying
And I said
I said
I'm gonna fight this dude
Every single day
Until eventually I beat him
Until eventually I whip him
When you take on Bud again
every single day the next morning.
No, I'm talking about now.
Like what I'd say, I think he's dead actually.
I mean.
I was just trying to figure out I was really making kind of a clever joke of you still
ain't whooped him, but.
No, no, I eventually got him.
Oh, really?
I literally got him.
Caught him more down.
Yeah.
So back to your, my question on it, okay, you're what you're saying is a relationship
and with Christ.
Right, because, you know, it kind of goes back to that.
thing, his perfect power is made through my weakness, right?
So at the end of myself becomes the beginning of what God can do with me, right?
Most of the time, whenever we are fearful of some type of opposition, that is a self-based fear, right?
That don't have anything to do with circumstance.
Actually, fear isn't actually rooted in anything that is literally happening.
Fear is a worry or concern about something that could happen.
Yeah, like me with mountain lines.
Right.
You get what I'm saying?
Or with me, me and snake.
You know what you should do, though?
That's my fear.
Every day you should go out and you should fight that mountain line and hand-to-hand combat
until eventually you win.
No, I saw Ricky Bobby try that driving with him.
Now, yeah.
He ended up putting his face on the hood.
Hey, the circumstances change in certain things.
Yeah.
My problem with you.
Every one of them is different.
My problem with you boys and snakes is you bigger than a snake.
No.
Not all of them.
Not all of them.
I've seen a video.
The ones you're going to run into around here,
you bigger than them.
I just don't like them.
They sneakier than me.
I just don't like it.
You know, it's like he's talking about it, though.
Okay, because me personally,
I'm looking back for what he said.
I don't like confrontation.
Okay.
And back to you, right,
when everybody was looking at you
when you said, no, I'm not going to fight him.
Mm-hmm.
They're thinking you're afraid of it.
Mm-hmm.
Why didn't you fight him?
Was you afraid of him or was it something told his other total?
No, I was afraid.
I was afraid of getting hurt.
I mean, really.
If you're scared.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, like, I legitimately was afraid.
Okay.
And but so, but this is the thing too, right?
And you got to remember, I got a lot of trauma and life experience that have taught me, you know, different things.
And you learn something from each one.
100%.
Yeah.
And so, you know, what I learned is that it's not actually about whether you win or
lose.
It's about your willingness to get in there, right?
Mm-hmm.
I give you that.
And because if, well, you're in prison, right?
There's somebody that is going to beat you up.
Matter of fact, there's a lot of people that are going to beat you up.
If you allow it.
Well, no, no, I understand.
Yeah.
Hey, now, look, I took some butt weapons and I thought I wouldn't allow them, but I allowed
them.
Well, no, no.
Well, no, all is that they were better at the game than you was.
Well, the rule of life is, there's always a bigger bear.
If he's always, nobody fast, there's always a bigger bear.
No matter what you do, where you go, there's always a bigger bear.
Yeah, but you got to be willing to put yourself in the fight.
Yeah.
Right.
So C.S. Lewis said, whenever I die, I pray that hell rejoices because then I'm out of the fight.
It's like, who's in more danger, the persecuted or the comfortable?
Either I'm in the fight, I'm strapping up, getting ready, going in there.
putting myself in a situation that I'm probably going to take some losses in,
but I'm actively participating in what is going on.
You're actually in the game.
Or I'm standing on the sidelines,
and I'm going to be just as close to following victim to the circumstances as a person that's in the fight.
I'm waiting.
No, no.
Yeah.
It's a metaphor.
At least you're...
Except he actually fought.
That's like, okay, are you living or you already dead?
you're here, but you're not involved in nothing.
Basically, I say all that to say, like, I just, you know,
it's not, it's not necessarily that I don't encounter a person,
and I'm like, hey, this is going to hurt a lot, this is going to suck.
But I'm more afraid of saying I wasn't willing to go in there
than to, like, go in there and get beat up.
You get what I'm saying?
No, regards, if you were.
A coach, I was watching a show, though,
day and it was about coach
your K. Yowel
basketball coach, woman.
Oh.
Okay.
And she said, she said,
I thought you really just screwed up the Duke basketball
coaches.
No, no, no.
She said, she said this
and the kids that played for
poured on their tennis shoes.
Life's going to kick you.
And then the other shoe
on the other side it says, but make sure
it kicks you forward.
Yeah.
Okay, because if you don't,
you're not, you know,
just like,
you and the guy, you know, that you were fighting and was afraid to fight it.
Well, here's my question for you.
Would, uh, what was tougher?
Actually not fighting him or go ahead when you had finally fought him and you may got whooped or he won, you won.
No, it's way tougher to not, like in those situations, right?
Then it doesn't necessarily apply to every aspect of life, right?
Like, because sometimes it is just dumb and you're going to cause yourself.
Oh, yeah.
which I've done that plenty of times.
And sometimes you don't have a choice.
No, yeah.
Right, exactly.
But, you know, in that situation and in situation similar to it,
it is way more agonizing to deal with the what if or the humiliation.
Yeah, you didn't accept the challenge.
You were challenged.
Of not going out there.
Yeah.
You know.
And so, you know, again, it's just about like,
are you willing to get into the fight?
And, you know, for me, whenever I say,
I'm not really afraid of a man.
I'm not afraid of a man.
But snakes make me pretty nervous.
Heights make me pretty nervous.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But like whenever it comes to like, oh, this dude,
don't fight that guy because he's A, B, C, and D, whatever.
Like, whatever, man, you're, you know,
you're just a dude.
You're probably going to hurt me.
That's okay.
You'll never be able to say that I was too afraid to get in there with you.
Is it smart?
No. Does it hurt? Yes.
So like Mike Tyson versus Brian Rucker.
Yeah, I'm gonna go.
You're gonna glove up?
To prove a point, I'm gonna go in there and get knocked out.
So you're gonna die just to say I wasn't afraid.
You're probably not gonna die.
If Mike Tyson punched you in the face for three minutes.
He wouldn't have to.
It wouldn't last three minutes.
It would be over.
Even with head gear, I mean, I got a pretty good chin,
but I still think Tyson knocked me out with one good one good one.
That's what I'm saying.
With headgear.
If he pounds Rucker's face in, he ain't going to.
You're just saying,
Martin, can.
About one is John, and he's asleep.
John David, how many fist fights have you been in?
Three or four.
Okay.
Didn't have to.
I talked my way out of them.
But like what I'm saying is.
Or talk to your buddies into it.
There's a lot of ways.
And then I can step back and watch.
You see, some people aren't afraid and they're dumb.
Some people are afraid and are smart.
You got to, if you're going to be dumb, you have to be tough.
If you're smart.
I kind of towed that line between two, but I always ended up.
I always ended up in the middle of the meat popping.
Where I come from, you don't get the option to not get out there.
Doesn't care if it's Mike Tyson, Hercules or whatever.
You got to go.
You got to go.
Hey, kids go out there and punch somebody in the mouth.
No, kids.
No.
He didn't ever say be the aggressor.
No, no.
He said, don't back down from a challenge.
Don't back down from a challenge.
He didn't buy with that.
didn't say go be the aggressor. There's a difference. This is what my mom used to tell me.
Okay. She said, you better not ever start anything. But if somebody starts it with you, you better
finish it. Yeah, I live by that too. The only problem is, few of them finish me.
Well, I mean, here's... But you're going to take some L's in life. Yeah. That's it. I've lost way more
fights than I've won. Yeah. But I ain't... Hey, I mean... I ain't lost more. I wasn't getting any
fights I was losing. I was running away from them. I ain't lost more, but I've taken place.
any of ales. But if anybody
tells you they ain't, well
get away from them because they're a pathological liar.
Yeah. What? And I'm not
talking. Some people don't got to fight though.
I'm not talking about hand-to-hand combat
exclusively.
I'm talking about people that I worked
here and worked there and did this and did that
well then why are you here?
Yeah. You are that good.
Yeah. How did you?
Why are you here?
No. Because I'll
escape yards. I work at Tiner Pitchers
and now I'm general manager, Ducamander. I ain't done
a whole lot in my life.
I'm at three.
But I've stayed committed everywhere I've been.
Right.
Like I was there for the long haul because that's just the kind of person I am.
But I'm just saying, you're going to take ales in life and that's fine.
You have to.
They're necessary.
I want to play basketball against Charles Scott, running back Philadelphia Eagles.
I played basketball with you bunch of idiots and a church league.
That was dumb.
You know what it's like for a bunch of private school Christian white kids to head to Jay Hodge and play basketball?
You get whooped.
Right.
And they were on a mission from the jump.
They said, we're going to score 100.
And I was like, I'm going to try and stop you, but I know I can.
Hey, do you know.
And I still went out there.
But that's what I'm saying.
And I got dunked on on the news.
Do you know back in the day how dumb it was for West Monroe High School to play LSU High School?
I mean, Evangel.
I mean, every one of them boys play pro.
And we out there ain't none of us went pro.
We's out there slinging haybells next Saturday.
He was trying to make $15, so we go get us a little bit of beer money.
But that's neither here and there there.
Boy, that was the most West Monroe statement I've ever heard in my life.
But what I'm telling you is.
Bucer didn't grow up like that.
I mean, there's similar aspects.
Yeah.
He was slinging different bells.
He was slinging different bells.
But we slinging hay bails and doing all that.
We had to get our bells from Jose.
Try to go sneak of somebody to overpay for some Bud Light because we thought it was cool.
That's fine.
not a big deal but them boys at evangel the next day we're working out doing all the things and we's
out there trying to you know scarf up smoke a cigarette butt because you know that's what you did
you know like i mean he's just trying to it's a different time but we wasn't scared we strep in paths
on yeah we about to i mean i'm looking cross miss old boy he go he's already committed to ls you
and i'm looking at him and i'm like he is about to whoop me for 48 minutes yeah but dad gumman he's
going to know I was here. He didn't know I was there to like the third play because the first
two, he went around me. I was like, well, that's a bad deal. I'm going to have to try something
different because this ain't working. It's a basic principle, right? So just take me doing
jih Tijuana, right? The sole reason I'm doing jih Tzu is because it's going to be extremely
hard. I'm going to suck at it and get beat up for a very long time. We got a truth sayer in here.
Welcome. Jay Stone just walking.
Oh, we just talking about life, Stone.
Yeah.
They know, but we...
We're talking about getting knocked.
Well, I guess I didn't grow up where I literally had to fight people.
Yeah.
But I...
Hold on.
I'm going to step out for a second.
I could have quit.
And let the coach and...
No, keep...
Come on in here.
John, we've been talking...
What's up?
Me and Stone have gotten real close over the past few weeks.
You know?
So he's telling us about taekwondo and jujitsu.
He says real close.
He really means real close.
Like physically.
Have you all grappled?
Yeah.
I mean, he's done stuff.
I've been there to get choked.
But, I mean, that's he doing, though.
But that's the name of the game.
On a real note, because, Rucker, I mean this with all sincerity and love.
You have a little bit of Uncle Shai and you.
So when you tell stories, I'm like, 95% 80% truthful.
You're asking me how he's doing?
Yeah, so I want.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I'll tell you this.
He's got a sharp mind.
and he soaks in the information well.
Okay.
But his cardio is lacking.
Which we knew going into this.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Hey, as someone...
Which is not an amazing...
That's not a surprise.
That's not a surprise.
As someone who had a doctor look at him and say,
you need to lose 30 pounds and Stone had me at his house.
He once looked at me and said,
your motor's there, but your cardio is lacking.
And your core is weak.
Weak core.
That's what he told me.
No, but I will say this, the man keeps coming back.
And that's what it takes.
It takes humility and it takes a willingness to learn and be humbled over and over.
Well, that's, you wasn't here.
I asked the question, okay, about what is the secret to life?
Okay.
And he went off on his little deal.
about okay.
I'm not afraid of any man.
Yeah.
You know,
and basically what it actually boils down to is, okay,
are you living your life,
or are you on the sidelines and life is just passing you by?
You're sitting in a recliner.
Yeah.
With a remote.
You're on the sidelines and no matter what happens in the game,
you just kind of, no, I'm not involved.
You shy away from it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so when you walk in.
You've got to comfort.
You got to, you know, you've got to get in the game.
Well, when you walked in, we were talking about, like, the reason why I'm doing
jiu-jitsu is because I know I suck at it.
I know it's going to be really hard.
I know I'm going to get beat up.
Like, those are the reasons why I'm driven to do it is because adversity breeds advancement.
If you want to have advancements in life, you got to face adversity.
And I'll tell you, life was getting pretty comfortable sitting at that death.
just planning stuff.
Right?
Yeah.
And like, yeah, I go to CrossFit and that's hard and everything else.
But I really thrive in situations that involve some type of like.
Interaction.
Well, not even just inter, but like.
Altercation.
No.
No.
I get what you're saying.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, I just really, I really enjoy like having some type of joust.
You know what I mean?
And so, huh?
Martin said you need twins
Martin said you needed twins
There's a jazz for you
Hey what's the jujitsu motto
The motto?
Yeah about
Yeah
What you're doing is honing
Honing and sharpening
Well there's a lot of
Motos people use
But the main lesson that he'll get from
Jiu Jitsu is how to stay calm
In a very difficult situation
Uncomfortable situation
Right
I feel like Rucker would have that in his repertoire as well.
Not yet.
It's going to take a few years.
I meant from like the streets.
Well, yeah, but that's a totally different thing.
And he can attest to it.
You know, we had a nice round the other day.
You know, we've been working on stuff.
I've been trying to help you alone.
But the other day, I just, I thought I'd let you know how it felt.
Yeah.
That when David started with me.
Yeah.
He started that way, by the way.
My best friend liked to kill me.
my first day.
It was brutal, brutal.
But that's the way that people start now, that's the way they learned.
They get smashed, they can't breathe, they don't know how to get out, they don't know what to do, they panic, they fell around, they use all their strength.
And guess what?
After about 30 seconds, there's nothing left and you're helpless.
And there's nothing you can do except take your butt whipping and come back the next time.
Yeah, and I'm good.
sign me up.
Here's the thing.
He's excited about butlop.
No, dude, I'll be getting...
Oh, he'd take it well.
Dude, I'm telling you.
It's awesome.
I mean, go to prison.
No, thank you.
I'm just saying,
hard past.
Kids, I'm not advocating for felony convictions,
but all I'm saying is you learn how to
face somebody that you know that's going to beat you
in a way to where you learn.
That's right.
Like that...
That's what I was going to say.
All of this, all of this is you're talking about going through
so that you can learn and become better.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
And it's going to hurt.
And that's okay.
It's okay.
What started it is he got,
I was,
he was like,
who's the guy that cracked your rib?
I said,
David Martinez,
he goes,
why would you do that?
I said,
I'm just like,
I knew going into it,
this is going to hurt.
I just David's not one I would have like,
I'd be like,
you know what?
I'll start with you.
have been like.
But you know, David didn't do it.
He did it.
He did it.
Bingo.
That's the way it works.
Yeah.
See, you didn't tell me that part.
I told you, I started garden up high because I'm used to garden my face.
My dude jumped across my body very soon.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's totally, it's my lack of knowledge that did it.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Back to that.
That and don't do a CrossFit workout with kettlebells and pushups an hour before you go up
there.
Bad move.
Bad move.
Because I'm learning.
I watch the shows with him, okay, and it's all the masters, okay, they're masters of their crowd.
He's talking about UFC, one, two, and three.
Boyce Gracie.
No, taquando, karate, judicious, all that, okay.
They all are geared differently on what they teach.
Well, I think jujitsu, it was my little.
knowledge of all of them.
I just know this.
When they run up on a
Jitsu master,
all the rest of the master
said, they tapped out.
This is just a personal question
with me. Because I don't think
if they ever
incarcerated me,
I think I die.
I'm serious.
Well, they have medical units.
No, no, I'm saying, you know,
that's got to be,
you know, somebody,
locking doors behind me,
how do you deal with that?
And you know,
like you've got five years to do.
Well, try being 18 and thinking you're in there the rest of your life, right?
Like, I mean, really, like we talk about it,
but the psychological trauma that I experienced
trying to wrap my mind around that was very heavy.
And it affected me for years.
And in some subtle ways,
even with the spiritual healing and, you know,
the therapy that I've had and,
and everything like that,
it still affects me in certain aspects.
Just that kind of stuff has a lasting impact on me.
It made him tough.
I know that.
No, no, because the reason I asked you,
I actually had a friend of mine in Oklahoma
asked me to go preach to a man that's incarcerated.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so when I'm going to the sheriff's department,
they're locking keys behind us everywhere we go.
Mm-hmm.
When I come out of that,
I was so glad, okay, because I just, you know, and now I know why when I was in Europe that everybody was standing, oh, you need to go behind the iron curtain just to experience it.
And I said, no.
I would always just say no, but I didn't really know the reason why.
But when I went to that jailhouse, oh, I know the reason why.
I don't want to walk in anywhere, so somebody else has got a big iron key and they're locking an iron gate behind.
me. But you know, there's another component to that, right? Like, yes, in actuality, that's a lot to deal
with, and it's very difficult. But yet, I know guys that are sitting on death row right now that live
in more freedom than most of us because of their relationship with Jesus. Right. And so there's this,
there's this, there's this aspect of it to where, like, if I get into a relationship with Christ
in a way to where I no longer live for this world, but yet I live for eternity,
eternity with him, then none of the current circumstances affect anything.
The Apostle Paul was a master at this.
Well, saying, hey, all of this are surrounding you is temporary.
Happiness is external, joy is internal.
The reason I ask you the question to start with was just what you've answered questions I wanted
to know personally.
Hey, cracked rib, cracked rib.
Yeah.
They say it takes seven to eight weeks.
Your boy was back in three.
Three weeks.
He's back.
We come back.
Weezen.
Yeah, wheezing.
I'm still wheezing, but that's true.
Oh, no.
That's a double cheeseburger, not the ribs.
All right.
I'm out of here, buddy.
All right, it was good to see you.
On a mildly different subject.
I do.
I want to know y'all's take on it.
I had a weird happening last night.
So I...
Was it happening?
Yeah, I got home and I could tell that the boys...
Well, I didn't even have to get home because I got the text before I got home.
You got the text and said get home?
No, not get home.
at the text that said when you get home jackson is all yours he's mentally and physically abused everybody
in this house today including the dog that is great and so i get that text sometimes i was like
okay not a problem so i get home i can tell mama's she had enough for a month yeah she fed up she done
she had enough so i said you know what i'm doing i'm gonna be a good guy i said you go get in bed
give me the monitors and i'm going to sleep on the couch that way you know you get a full night
I'm unadultered sleep, monitor free, no nothing.
So I'm laying there at about 10 o'clock.
And in their playroom, which is right next to our living room,
I hear one of their toys go off.
They've escaped.
And I'm like, no, no, I ain't nobody escaped.
But I'm just like, because I'm looking at the monitor,
I'm like, okay, we're all good.
And I'm just sitting there thinking, why is that toy going on?
Like, what?
There ain't nobody in that room.
or I hope not.
I don't have a camera in there.
But I did come to the conclusion of I ain't going to die in a scary movie
because when I hear the noise, I don't go look.
I just sit there.
The people that go look are the ones that get hurt.
Rucker, what would you have done?
I would have wouldn't check it out.
Thank you.
You preached a whole thing about not being scared of nothing,
so you better go on a check.
But.
I wasn't scared.
I just didn't want to die.
But.
I was trying to get the reaction out of a hunter
on that one. In the context of a scary movie, you run away from, now there's different, okay,
if you're in a situation and you hear a chainsaw just start up in the middle of the woods,
probably don't run to that. Yeah, you're running away from that. You know what I'm saying? Like,
yeah, I thought you might say, you know what, not scared. He's not chicken. I'll keep all going
with it. Again, there's context and different. I just thought you were Leroy Jenkins and everything,
but I like to hear it. So the toy is actually, they're a little,
little, what they call them now?
It's not little tykes anymore, little people.
I don't think they call them tykes anymore.
They call them people.
Little cars?
No.
No, it's a little fire truck.
Oh, a fire truck.
Yeah, this got a fireman on the front and firemen on the back.
That's what was making the racket.
I was like, man, that's weird because you got to like push a button on it.
I mean, I know I play with it.
Ghost, yeah.
Could be.
I don't really know what it was.
Is the whole story that you never went to look?
No, I never went to look.
I wasn't.
I wasn't turned.
Why would you go look?
Because what if your kids had a little?
Escape the, look.
You ain't even got to the weirdest part of this story, which is coming.
Now, that's actually pretty normal what he's talking about right now.
So 20 minutes go by.
Your toys just make noises?
Your toy is still making noise, right?
Yes, they do.
As an Astros fan, you're part of Houston's totally different.
It runs through its little progression of racket and then it was over.
I thought, hmm, okay, whatever.
20 minutes later, I'm laying there on couch.
I got the malls right by my hand.
phone starts going off.
Burr,
all that.
I look,
and it's the United Automation people
that have the fire system here.
And I'm like,
I ain't answering that mess,
whatever.
There's other people on that list.
They can get that call.
I'm off of it.
Yeah.
Well, this is a different one.
See, this is a different list.
This isn't just our,
this is hitting our security system.
No, you still on that one,
big dog.
I ain't taking you off.
Every time a rat moves in this building
and it's like,
call John David and let them know.
I'm like, I don't care.
Well, as soon.
as that one quits ringing, my phone starts again.
I look, I'm like, hmm, okay, that's the number I got to answer.
I just, I didn't know whose it was.
I just knew.
I was like, I better answer this one.
This is the Washington Parish Fire Department.
I was like, okay.
It was their truck?
It wasn't their truck.
But they were dispatching three units to Duck Commander because of smoke alarms,
various smoke alarms going off inside Duck Commander, and they needed somebody to guarantee
entry into the building.
I said, so I guess you need me to go.
And she was like, I sure do.
I said, well, here I come.
That side doors glass.
At 10.30 night between you asleep.
You ain't out there up to no good.
You sleep it.
But I just thought it was weird.
I get here, it's the spray phone people doing whatever.
Hunter and them need to be done in this other room.
And they took the thiel off the covers and the whatever.
So fire alarm.
there are three fire trucks at this place.
And I'm like, what in the world?
What?
But how does, why, how come the toy that went off was a fire truck too?
Oh, kind of like a premonition type thing?
Well, you know what I was watching before I would turn TV on?
Final destination.
And Black Panthers aren't real.
Well, so, you, I mean, there's.
What do you say?
I can't even hear.
He doesn't know how to work the microphones and it's his one job.
You keep saying stuff.
We can't hear you, Hunter.
Hunter, fix the audio and post.
fix it.
A poltergoat.
We don't know what that means.
That's a ghost.
Hold on.
I can barely spell taekwondo.
I certainly can't spell polter guys.
No idea.
I don't know what it is.
It's a ghost.
It's a ghost?
Yeah.
Martin, I need to say something, though.
Yeah, I'm like you.
I ain't going to check.
I don't know.
But there is a strong possibility
that your children have reached
the diabolical age of cribs can't hold them back.
That's right.
No, they're still in them sleep sacks.
They can't climb in them sack.
When they outgrow them sacks, we're in a bind.
Because they are climbers.
It's a bad deal.
They're coming up and they're touching you.
Yeah.
They long, they tall?
Yeah.
Genetics, man.
Have you met Brittany or?
That's why I assume.
Yeah, genetics.
We own that long bag.
Yeah.
Yeah, you all are.
Yeah.
Them kids are going to be like six, eight.
But you know, there's another, like, okay, so I get, you don't go to it in certain
situations, but that changes depending on who's there, right?
So this situation, there's something that sounds very dangerous.
If I'm by myself, I don't go to it.
If my kids and my family's there, you go to it, right?
So there's, there's different.
No, see, like right now.
He said, right now.
Even when I'm in another room and I hear a big thud, I'm like, I just wait for the cry.
Yeah.
To see just how bad it was.
Yeah.
If I don't hear nothing, I'm like, lesson to learn.
If I hear something, I'm like, that's a problem.
Yeah.
But I did think it was weird.
The fire truck toy led to a call in the fire department.
Yeah.
And I come up here and there's three fire trucks.
And then I go back home and I can't go to sleep until like 1.30.
So I'm running on fumes today, but we'll be a right.
You look good, though.
I feel good.
You look great.
You feel good.
You feel good.
You feel good.
But that is interesting.
It's like, is it a premonition?
Like, what's the chances?
Odd coincidence.
Yeah.
Out of all the toys in there, why would it tear a fire truck?
Yeah, and then the fire department called me.
Because my first question was, B, wait a minute, that has a button on it,
and someone has to touch it to make it run.
Yeah.
That's what would have been going on in my mind.
I just figured it was dad coming around, creeping around.
Pushed the fire truck.
I figured his dad's spirit coming around, hanging out, checking on the boys.
Just checking on the boys.
He liked to scare people his whole life.
He's one of them to like to hide around corners and jump out on you.
Question.
Even as a kid.
Question, it matters.
Go ahead.
Did the fire truck toy wake you up?
No, I was...
He was already awake.
I was in the process of going to sleep.
I was like right in that kind of fog.
Yeah.
Do you sleep heavy?
Like if you go, if you're out, you're out.
Oh, if I'd have been out, I'd have never heard that fire truck.
And them duck commander would have burnt down.
There it is.
Well, send us that, Brooke, you got a verse on your mind or...
I got one if you don't.
Come on.
Go ahead.
Isaiah 4110.
so do not fear for I am with you do not be dismayed for I am your god I will strengthen you and help you
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand all who rage against you will surely be ashamed and
disgrace those who oppose you will be as nothing and perish kind of weird metaphors with all the
fighting for me today but I think that's the point rucker was trying to make the whole time
you can't stop the boy because he's got Jesus Christ on his side amen and he fears nothing
because he knows who he is and who he belongs to and where he's going.
And we are guaranteed to take L's in life.
Yeah, man.
But we win in the end.
It's not about the losses of today.
It's not about the losses of today.
No, Ben.
Yeah.
