Duck Call Room - Phil Robertson Fooled the FBI Without Saying a Word

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Phil Robertson hits the duck call room to reveal a talent even he didn't know he had: beating the FBI's lie detection technology in the coolest way possible. Phil and Si admit to their childhood poaching strategies and share the one rule they wouldn't break. They also reminisce about how Phil lured Si away from his dead-end job to be his reed man. Godwin remembers the early days of Duck Commander and the exact date and time he was converted. Phil divulges how he played matchmaker for his granddaughter and Stone in the duck blind. And John-David clams up so he can hear more from master storytellers Phil and Si. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are we on the air? We're on the air. Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen. I hate to brush in the young ones like this. But as boys, Silas Robertson seated right over there, two things we never saw. Ever. You, and if there had been one, we would have spotted him. We never saw a deer track.

Ever? Ever. No deer tracks. No. From 60 through 64, we're. at the roaming age. See? Is this the day you were dropped off in the falcon and you had to get 10 miles back to your house?

Oh yeah. Yeah, this is in Dixie, Dixie, Louisiana. There's a town called Dixie. Well, in Dixie, we went in the woods. We stayed in the woods. Big pecan trees, you know, bottom land hardwood. Not one deer track. That's one.

Two is we never laid our eyes on a beaver or bea. or beaver track. There were no deer and there were no beavers. And this is, what is it, 2,021 since Jesus held up, 21, add the 21, that's about 50, about 50, more than that, you know, 55. 55 or 60 years ago in these United States of America,

Si, think about it. There were no beavers damning up streams and there were no deer at all. Well, you just look Both those animals On what has happened in the last 50 years They stalked them, they said A pair of them here and a pair of them there

And from that stocking them They started stocking them in the 60s And by the time I got the Louisiana Tech About a year after I got there I'm squirrel hunting and I looked down I said, whoa, deer track I said they got deer over here But they had just stalked them

and it took 50 years and now where we are side did are they there now beavers and deer oh yeah oh yeah i can remember i grew up hunting a tin saw swamp yep down there Madison paris ten lick hunting club beside africa hunting club and i can remember seeing pins where they'd catch them deer and they would take them to other places but we have had deer. I grew up seeing there, but when we'd get here and get around, you know, I didn't say no deer when I was young running around in the woods around here. And I never saw any wild dreams much until I got in my 70s. You say dreams. So we went from deer, no beaver, no deer. Now we're going to dreams. Now, Sae may correct me if I'm wrong. See, we've been running together for over 70

years. Well, the other night, I got in a scrap. In my dream, a large monkey. He came out of a big tree, and when I saw him coming toward me, I dove, because he was just right on me. I said, I got to fight back. So I jumped and grabbed the monkey, and the monkey was. started hollering, and when I woke up, I've got Miss Kay.

I've got my hands on Miss Kay, you know, about right in here. So I'm the stuck in my dream, the monkey for Miss Kay, and she squalled out, you know. She said, what was all that about? I said, I thought you were a monkey. A monkey. A big one. Come out of a tree on me. I never would have thought you would say, I had a.

dream about a monkey. If somebody told me I would dream about a monkey attacking me, I would get a lot of attacks in my dreams. Things are coming after. Different kind of people are coming after me. You know, they're going to kill me. First one thing and another, I'm running. I'm on a cliff, you know, and they're fixing to go over the cliff.

I dream like that all the time. But I was surprised that it was a large, it was a monkey. A monkey. What did you have for supper? I don't know, but I need to change recipes. I guarantee that. Well, boys, we could pontificate on Jesus, number one, since we follow him. By the way, now y'all are up here, what do you all call this particular room?

What is this? This is the duck call room. So this is, I don't get here that often. In fact, I haven't been here in a couple of years. But it's good to have you. I driven by it from time to have. Yeah. But the idea was, I said, I'll fish the river.

Miss Kay, get me out of town. I'll fish the river. We'll survive. I'll sell the fish. Here's a guy have a couple of degrees from La Tech. But I said, you know, I said, get me to the woods.

And she was sitting there looking at me, you know. And I said, I'll start fishing the river for a living. We'll sell the fish. I said, we're going to, it's going to be pretty hard times. I said, however, I said, I reached in my pocket.

I said, you see this duck call? It's the only one like it. I said, it sounds just like a duck. I said, when the duck call takes off, I'll figure out how to get it on the market. I said, and when it takes off, I'll rack my nets, my fishing nets, and good times will have come our way. I said, it's like a ship way out there, but you can't see it. He can't see it. I said, but it'll be a ship going toward the dock.

Well, we started building duck calls, but we couldn't make the reeds fast enough. And I told Ms. Kay, I said, you know what? I fixed the call old sigh up and see if he'll come over and build these reeds, these duck calls. We need a man, a reed builder. Because I said, we got all these reeds, but I said, both of them are flared up on the end. It's got a little dimple in them to keep them from sticking. And I said, the length of them and a little mold, you know. So I got on the phone, I called over, I said,

Sa, what are you doing? Well, served in the Army for 25 years. I'm over here now taking care of golf courses. I work on golf course. I said, for a living, he said, that's what I do. A deadbeat job, boy. You mowed grass, you know, and he could get in a, you do a little hunting from time to time on,

catching some frogs and blue-wing teal lighting on the pond and the golf course. I said, look, I got a, I got a, got our idea. I said, I need somebody to build these duck call reads. I said, because we're going to get this duck call on the market. It's doing pretty good. I said, we've got a long way to go. I said, but there's only, and I need a read man and you're the man. I said, one stipulation, you have to duck hunt every day of the duck season. You have to duck hunt. And O'Sai's on the phone, he said, I'll be over in a couple of days.

Yeah, I bet you. He was a perfect attendant. No, no, no, Cyan. It was that quick, and I looked up two days later, and he had to you all, he pulled in there. All right, where's the reason? What room I'm playing is. So now, Cye, you look back. Sire, that was a good choice on your part. And your woman didn't even bad my idea about it, is he?

No, no. Look, that's what's so amazing about this story. My wife comes home Friday afternoon, okay? This Friday afternoon, like 5 o'clock. She's working for the government. She's in a deadbeat job, too, okay? we're both miserable at what we're doing. Okay, and she had said since when I got married,

I lived with you and Kay, we did for three months before we, you know, bought our own place or rented a place. But anyway, she said, I'll never go back to Louisiana. Never. So she comes home Friday afternoon to 5 o'clock. You were in Alabama at the time when I come.

Oh, yeah, I've got a place in Alabama. So she comes in and says, you know what you need to do? You know? And I said, what's that? She said, you need to see if Phil can pay you and you just, we go over and you work for your brother. You know, so the first thing I do is I get on the phone, I call Tracy Lee and say, hey, your mom's dying.

Yeah. And she says, what are you talking about? I said, well, she just told me that I need to go, you know, if Phil can pay me. I need to go work for my brother, you know, and try to say, yeah, you're probably right. She must have a doctor told her she's got cancer or something. We both thought she'd sick to die. Yeah, she's gone nuts.

Yeah, so look, this is Friday afternoon, you know. So we kind of are still talking about Saturday, you know. That's when you call, you know, and say, hey, look, what you need to do, I need somebody to build these duck haul rates. And number one, building duck haul raise, that's the most boring, monotonous job there is. You sit there all day and you got to bend them, okay, you got to put a rivet in them. By the way, Sa, how many years did you do that? Because it was a long.

99 until whatever. Yeah, 10 or 12 years. Yeah. Because I've retired, what, 93, and I come over here in 99. But anyway, Sunday rolls around. We go to church Sunday, and I tell the people there at church, I said, well, if I can sell this place, you know, I'm out of here. Yeah. So look, we go home.

We're cooking dinner, you know. I just sat down and started eating dinner, knock on the door. A woman from church says, you ain't sold your place yet, have you? I said, no, we're just talking about it. She said, I'll buy it. So Friday afternoon, okay, my wife tells me

how you need to go work for your brother. Saturday you call and say, hey, you need to come over here and work for me. You ain't going to get paid much, but hey, you'll eat good, you know, we'll live off the river. So, son, why did I tell you about the ship? Yeah, and he said, hey, look. look, I can see the top of the ship out on the ocean.

And I said, what are you talking about? He said, oh, hey, it's the ship coming in. And when it comes in, hey, it's going on load. So I said, we're going to be fine. After about year or five, so I said, how long does take that ship to get here? I said, hey, I said, do you still see the ship? And he said, oh, yeah, I got where I can see it. Before I was just seeing the mass of it.

He said, I can actually see the ship now. And the smoke coming out of the spat. I said, when's it going to unload? I said, it won't be long now. He said, won't be long. Well, hey, and he showed up, and hey, is that the docks and it's unload? I'm more interested in hearing about this childhood that y'all grew up in, but we haven't even introed the show or taken a break. And this episode's going to, if you haven't figured it out.

What you just heard was the cold. I was doing that. Y'all got some kind of show going on. Yeah, this is a show. It's called the Duck Call Room. We have a special guest. We're going to break all that in after our. first break.

There you go. This is going to be the best episode ever. We'll be right back. I'm not even going to talk all day to day. I'm going to let these two do it all. We'll be right back after the break. All right. Look, springtime is here.

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trybeef.com slash. that's trybeef.com slash support ranch families and eat some dang good steak. So, so I looking back on it, was it worth it? Oh, yeah.

Well, that's what I was going to ask you. From our childhood going back, okay, our father raised a huge garden, okay? My mother, okay, and my sister, they put up everything we raised in the garden they canned, okay, and mason jars and mason jars,

you know, quarts and pints. you know, did you ever think you would be where you're at right now looking at how we grew up? So, Sa, here's the deal. If you remember, we were poor, I guess, in the eyes of the world. But I never heard anybody say we were poor. We didn't know it. I never heard anybody get up in the morning and they say,

boy, we are up against it here. We didn't know it. No air condition, no television, no, no. Heat? I mean, one fireplace in the end of a log cabin, you say you put a bunch of big log on it before you went to bed. But you said, well, what about a bathtub?

No bathtub. No number three wash tub. You bathed in a number three wash tub. Wow. And I was about number three on the list or four. By the time it got to me. By the time it got to me, it was cold and dirty. Y'all all used the same water.

Same water. Okay. And if you if you're the last one. So if you're number three or four, you're pretty warm. you know not 98 but it's on up there pretty warm yeah but i don't know what the women did side judy and jim they didn't they didn't bathe in the tub i don't guess i didn't see it i don't know so the older you were that was the seniority yep oldest went first down to the pecking order peckin order number three wash tub we'd sit it out there you know like in the cooler months and let it sit there in the sun for you know an hour before you jump over in it but uh warm enough that that's so

But then they went from out of a well. Then we moved up because at some point there was a pipe just coming out the back of the house. They had put a pump on the well instead of dropping it down with a rope. You know, they put a pump on the thing. So we had like running water, but it was just coming, it was just a pipe going out of the log cabin. And you'd get up on that, you know, and do the best you could with it. That's cold. But Sao, Sao ran naked until he was, he was about six.

Well, when they got time to go to first grade, I said, well, yeah, free spirit. When they went to school late today, first thing you got to do for the clothes on, I said, I ain't going. So I said, I ain't wearing no clothes.

I said, oh, you're going to wear clothes. I ain't going. You know, we was, Phil, Phil says we're, we're gatherers, gatherers.

Hunter, hunters. Hunters. Yeah, hunters and gatherers. I'm pretty much just a gatherer. Yeah. Because look, you used to be able to find

all kinds of wild plums, wild grapes, all the... Slows. Dewberries, blackberries, may hares. You could actually go out and pick yourself a basket for us. And some of our neighbors, old women, they had things like peach trees growing in their yard,

and we had farmers who planted watermelons, so we were kind of like coons. We weren't... We dart out in there, get us two or three peaches a piece, get back in the brush and eat the peaches, and, you know, check around, see if anybody there, we'd go back out there, get a couple more. So we didn't take more than we could eat,

but we had peaches, fresh pieces every year, but we didn't. We were stealing peaches, basically. But I thought, in the grand scheme of thing, like pecans, orchards, you know, people out, we'd hit, we'd get on, come out of the brush, pick us up a rack of pecans, you know, a bag of pecans.

Get that. And then watermelons, you know, there were big melons. 100 pound back. Remember, Si I would wait to, the beyond those would harvest their watermelons, would come up in them tall grass and look out there where they'd leave some. You know, some of them, they wouldn't pick up. Wasn't big enough yet. So we'd look to the right and the left.

I said, let's go for it. So we'd go get a watermelon and run back in the brush. And you could drop that watermelon, big old yellow-meaded watermelon. Some of them, you know, the heart of it. We just sit there and eat the heart in the brush. We'd go get us another. another one about a couple of melons you're good to go. Their mother sold Avon.

Okay, and we didn't know that the time. We had permission to hunt all the people's land, but they had told my mama, no, don't tell them that they got permission because we enjoy chasing them too much. Hey, no, no, because we hear the pickups come in and, hey, wide open through the wood. We're going to run, jump behind a log,

be laying down, and hitting grass or, brush, whatever. The farmers all chased us, okay, and we had permission to do it. We didn't know it. By the way, side, they called. I got a phone call about seven or eight years ago.

And, yeah. And this guy said, he said, Phil, he said, you remember Mickey McDade? I said, yeah. I said, once school is on me, he said, that's me. I said, well, well, well, well, all, he said, we've been sitting around here at the cafe, talking about you and Cy and Tommy and all the old Robinson boys.

And he said, and our daddies would come in and say, and I'll tell you what, that Robinson bun said like a bunch of deer. They see you coming and they take off, they didn't jump bobwire finches and never even look back. So we're running from their dads or chasing them, but they're having a big time doing it. Because, of course, we were getting pecans, peaches, anything that grew, we considered fair a game.

Squirrels, got to take them, we've got to get them. So he said, we've come up to a conclusion about those days because now we own all the land. He said, we miss y'all. They ain't had no fun. Well, they looked at it. They saw them inside on TV, you know, about Harry. They saw it.

They're like, is that that bunch? We were running around. We kept that bunch and they never could get them. I remember one time they was, I don't know if you remember. We was up there by the dump, and we heard a shot, and we went over there, and it was two young guys, I don't know who they were, but they shouldn't have been there. And they had shot a deer. And you told them, you knew them.

Or knew, I might have been some of them boys, you know, north of there. Yep. And, you said, you need to get off of here. He said, get what you can get. Just don't let me catch you. That was because of that, wasn't it? Got my little deer meat, let it, let it ride. Yeah.

That was because of that. Yeah. Yeah, we were poachers, but, you know, I looked back on it. I don't know, side. They said they missed us, so they kind of enjoyed it. Well, we never did mess with any of their, like, they boats, motors, all this stuff. Like, tools, no. Anything, like if they had a shed where they had tools, we never messed with.

we never messed with anything like that. Anything growing pecans, pecanes, peaches, plums, all that, that was fair game. That was fair game. Yeah. The Almighty put that there. Yeah.

Don't mess with a switch. But hey, we never did because one time I remember a deputy chef coming to the house and he had a old beat-up raggedy looking some kind of hat. And he said, we found this over at Mr. Grimes'

boat house. y'all stole three motors and that's the only time I ever seen my dad really mad because he told that sheriff he said hey don't you ever come back and knock on my door again

unless you got one of them handcuffed to you and you see him do it he said because hey they'll hunt on on the land he didn't even sit us down and said y'all do that he knew we didn't he knew we knew we wouldn't have done that and come find out it was it was

old man Grimes his kids and his friends. They did. You know, they was in high school. They stole three motors, got scared, and they threw them off 12-mile bow bridge, just threw them in water because he got scared. They're on people. Then they were trying to pin the charge on.

They were going to pin it on us. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because they knew we hunted on their land. Yeah. Everybody knew that. Well, when was the first time that you said, I think I need to make a duck call.

What brought that on? Now that raises an interesting question because, you know, I'm formally educated, but I thought, what am I going to do with my life now? All I want to do is stay in the woods anyway. But so I finally just came up with an idea. I had one duck commander duck call. And I wrote these just in case this topic came up.

I had no idea of that. He had those hidden in his shirt. You know, so here's an interesting, to me it is at least. There's all kind of people running around on planet Earth with particular skill sets. The world's made up of a lot of different individuals. And I have concluded that everybody, every last one of them, although some will beg to differ. Everybody has a skill set of some sort. In our case, it's like playing piano by ear.

You hear these various birds, and I took these, this hangs on the rack when duck season's over. So the goal wasn't exactly just to build a duck call and market it. The goal was it's broader than that, because you hear birds fly by. Most people do not think, you know, I need to build a device that sounds like that bird.

Well, I can bring him to me. So I can bring him to, he'll think I am one. Yeah. And the other thing is you say, so one bird flies by, this bird flies by, he doesn't have to fly by and me to hear him to know what he sounds like. because I've been listening to them my entire life.

I'm in my 70s. I've heard wood ducks all my life. No one on planet Earth, not one, had ever said, why don't I just build a device that sounds like, not only a mallard, I want to sound like a whittance, I want to know what a pintail sounds like, what a hen sound like, a pintail hen,

I mean a teal hen, and a teal Drake and a Woody and a gadwall and a mouth you said most people you know say how does a wheezen sound so this is a compilation if you want to call it that of years of research

we know what they sound like because they're in the woods all the time a Woody's flying he only does that when he's flying if he's sitting he'll go it sounds us like one of them That's incredible. So look, so you take one.

Well, you got one duck under your belt. Of course, you had the mallard hand. Instead of, you got to teach people how to use them. They go, no. You got to come from your lung and get your tongue planted on the roof of your mouth. And he left out. There's a mallard and there's a wood duck, two species. He left out one important thing.

But there's far more. We don't tell you, we stay in the wood. all the time, we pursue these flying birds vigorously. Relinously. Yeah. When it's open, when it's legal to kill them, we're after. You're there. Okay, and we're after them.

So look, so through the process, now we're in 2020s, you say the idea was way back there. Far deeper than most people think. Now here's a little thing. I built that. I came up with it in less than an hour with a band saw and super glue. And I wanted to see if I could build a one duck call that sounded like multiple ducks, different kinds. So here's a little thing.

It's an ugly little thing. One of the most copied things in America. I never held it against anybody who copied it. You know, you know, duplication is, you know, what's the sum? Duplication is something about. Form of flattery. That form of flattery. So look, here's the teal.

It's just a Drake. That's a him. That's all he does. And look, that little hen that's with him, I got a teal hen and I got a teal drake, and it's on hanging on one lanyard. Well, watch. Widgin.

I've got the same thing of the teal. That's a teal. A whizion goes, it's a perfect widgeon. So I got two ducks out of one device, bingo, but not through yet. Then I figured out that little, this right here, if you put your finger and stop the air up, the tongue goes from to drops down. So everybody has a little piece of meat. It should be there.

You can check it. Open your mouth real wide. There's a little piece of meat coming down off the roof where your throat. You ever seen that thing hanging out? The reason God gave you that, Mr. Husky, is that so that you could sound like a pintail. Because if you can't flutter your uvola, it sounds nasty, but it's not. Uvala, hanging down.

So I'm going, but my fingers in the end of it. So instead of, I got, now I've got, it flutters. Penta, yep, and it's pentail. Without that little piece of meat, it would be, no pintail. some kind of computer

or a back hole back in a back hole yeah there you go get out of the way get out of way I'm back in a place you could use it for that for a flagman

you know well listen that whitching teal out of one little device let me be blunt that's hard to do it is very hard

so look all these years later people have said hey you know how'd you get it to you ask about You know, it was broader than, I'm just going to build a duck call. We wanted to get them all. Look here.

Here is a gadwall. We call them Grey ducks in the country. Gray ducks. That's him. So we got gadwall. Jay's come up with that, and he had a whistle like this whistle. We took the whistle, glued it in the end of a cracking call. So you got a quack and a whistle,

and when both of them are done together, it comes out, Gadwall, which you'd think impossible. So that's the gadwall. So now we've got all these different species, and we're sounding like them. Here's an old maller Drake.

If you're a tenor, you can't use it. If you got a real high voice like this, I tell you what, boys. I'm out. You're out. But the guy who can say, well what I'm trying to say. Old Burley. Oh, Burley Daniel.

So that's about, so that our listeners will know, you say, so what's your point? It took 40 years to do all that. 40 years. And here's the reason why. And now we're in a little room and you say, you look around, and I'm looking at me over there, picture, and I looked like I was about 15.

I actually The scariest 15 year old I've ever seen My hair is black My whiskers are black And it looks like I dyed my hair My hair black But you liked it at one time So all I'll have to say to the audience is

Life has not been kind As far as the way I look So there's old dog What was that old dog there aside? Vegas. Vegas. Yeah, there's Vegas Old Vegas.

She was a fair retriever. That was the one that you shot You leaned over me to do it. and ever since you did it, that dog every time it got near me, if I got too near, she had bite me. Because she thought I shot her. Yeah.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, what you just heard was more than 35 years of research and development working for you. It was 40 years of research and development working for you. Here's how this came about. We got to take a break. I hate to be the boring guy. All I am today is a stop-off.

I'll tell you how this comes about after we come back from break. After a break. There was three duck called manufacturers. I know PS Oaks was one. Who was the other two? One of them was the Cajon. Yeah, Yensen.

Yenson and Fawke. Falk. Okay, that was the three. I didn't say anything about all that because I, you know. Well, I was just going to say that that hadn't come back because you said, you know, it's pretty good, but it's not really right there. So you said, hey, I'm going to make one that sounds just exactly. like what it doesn't sound like.

I remember him blowing around. He had some little little child's toy with all that, when he come up with that, the three and one. Yeah, the penthouse, whedging. But when you, uh, you was blowing them other calls and you was having to manipulate them.

Work on them all the time. Oh, yeah. He was working on them all the time. Yep. I started with an oak. And I remember we'd have to take it to some. Yeah, you had to do the lot cut it. Cut it down.

We tried to make it easier for the guys and gals. There's some women duck callers, you know, out there. More and more of them all the time, which that's a positive thing. I don't know where we rank now. I've never, you know, I don't know where we rank as far as sales and all that. But I would think probably we're up or near the top. We're definitely, we're top ten. We're done the bill.

I would think. Man, stones. Y'all are the brains, y'all are the power workers underneath, you know, the idea. That's way back. But now, I tell you what, I'll give old Stone credit to put as many duck calls as he does together. And at the time he has, it is amazing how many duck calls that dude can turn out. I knew it was a good call. By the way, his story is, Jace brought him on board on a duck hunt.

and I watched him and I was vetting him in my mind I watched him I listened to his verbiage as if then there was any foul language and whatever and I was watching this dude

well he joined up you took off to Afghanistan they sent him over there so he served his country well he came back so Jay starts to take him duck hunting well after about studying him for a duck season or two

I said stone I've come up to with a conclusion son I said, I have officially vetted you. And he said, vetting me for what? I said, to marry my granddaughter. And he said, you're talking about nan? I said, yeah. I said, Al's girl.

I said, my little granddaughter. And he said, well, she's not but 17, I think. I said, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Don't wait until she's 20. I said, that's way too. I said, move now, son. I said, now, look, now I vetted you and told you can marry my granddaughter because you're a man of good standing, you served your country, you're a godly man.

I said, I've officially turned you loose on my family members, starting with Nan. And I said, however, I've said go, but you need to go talk to Al, her dad, who is my son, because he has the final say, not me, but it'll help you if you tell him I said it was good. Good to go. I said, that'll help you. So he goes over and tells Al. He said, look, your daddy told me that I can date Nan, but I had to check with you.

But he's vetted me and said, I was good to date her. He said, you got past him? And he said, yeah, he said, I can go. He said, if you got past him, he said, wait until she gets to be 18, then make you move. Well, he's the one. Nan works here today. And so does stone. but it all started romance in the duck blind.

Yeah. That's amazing. That's how Stone got on board. He lived with me a while when he come back from Afghanistan. He lived with you? Yeah. I have a question. How did this guy come about?

How did, because you hired Godwin, correct? He was a wayward man given to drunkenness and foul language. And somebody ran up on him. I don't know whether I'll convert him or I converted him. him, I don't forgot. Tony told me, well, it was weird because me and Tony brodeoed, you know, together, and he'd moved off and built all in my condo in New York and paid off everything. That's what he went up there for.

Well, he come back, and I ain't seen him in probably two years, and he called me and invited me to go to church. Well, I busted out laughing. I thought he was joking, because I knew what he was doing, because I was doing it with him. But he was serious. He kept calling, and that was pretty cool because he didn't care what I thought about him. You know, some people, oh, I don't want to tell people.

But he loved me enough that he wanted, he wanted me to know the hope that he had. So at that time, we just got Johanna adopted her. What year was that? By when were you converted? 1996, January 1st at 1 o'clock in the morning. 96? That's a way to ring in the new year.

Yep. And so y'all knew each other? Because you were working at the mill. Yeah, the first time I'm... I met you at some kind of duck calling contest. At a duck calling contest. That's when the feds bought tin saw down there, bought all that hardwood bottom of it.

And bought our hunting club. So we didn't, we was kind of in between finding somewhere to hunt. Well, this guy in the neighborhood invited us on a duck hunt. We'd never duck hunted. And we went and man, it got me. When he talked to him and them suckers talked back, the hair on the back of my neck, it just stand up. By the way, we got a call yesterday from the Spaniard.

Oh, yeah, come in. Yeah, the Spaniard. And I said, what are you doing? He's, well, I'm test flying. and he said, I'll be flying one of the second largest transport jets in the Air Force. Okay. The Spaniard is about this close. Yeah.

And he flew over. He said, we come over and I said, hi, hi, were you flying when you came from over in Mississippi somewhere to come to. He told him, so let's go to West Monroe. And they said, why? He said, well, I'm from there. And they said, you know what him robinson's over? He said, oh, yeah, I know. He said, but I, you know, he said, I didn't want to get them all stirred up.

Yeah. But he comes to here the other day. Yeah. But he flew over here. He said about 20,000 feet, took about 20 minutes, 25 minutes. He just, he's flying one of the largest jets in the Air Force. I said, how in the world did you figure all these? Looking at the way you call them, all your computer screens, he said, oh, you get used to it.

He said, but he's like number one in his class. The Spaniard is an Air Force. A pilot. And us know. him how he was acting back then and we're like, would you let him fly you? No, but now, I guess. Hey, maybe. Hey, come on.

He's official. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So what year did you start working at Duck Commander? You were converted in 96 by this gang. And then did you just go straight into the Duck Call Road? No. I got to be friends with, you know, I worked at the Paper Mill for 21 years.

I've been working there as long as I've been working here. Pretty neat. So what action do you do up here? I bill a duck call. So you put them together. You happen stone. Yeah. Well, you answer that question.

How do y'all? Because y'all turn out a lot of duck calls. It's well, they're not many of you. In your words, it's state of course. Well, hey, stone, automates. Well, who's your reed man? Cyre retired from the reed. Jackie Hill.

Jackie Hill. Jackie is the Reed, man. and they claim he's a reed man of all reading men. He's good. Yeah. Is he better than Sal? No. No.

He makes more reads. No, no. He makes more because Stone automated everything. But back to what I was going to tell you, I want to go when we took a break. Thousands of the duck calls, right? Oh, yeah. Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. We don't build since February, 80.

80,000. Well, good night. Since February? Mary? Yes. I should know. But hear how this came about, okay, when he comes with that out of it. At the time, there was three duck call manufacturers, P.S. Oates, Jensen, and Falk.

Okay, and you actually met with Yensen, I think, didn't you? Yeah, I met him on. Well, yeah, but you actually was, you had the double-read system, and he tried to sell it to Yenton. Yep. And Yenton, Jensen turned it down. Yep. And the only thing Phil's ever said about his duck call, my duck call sounds exactly like a milder him.

That's true. And he's got a good story about that, and I'll get him to tell it a minute. But that's how it came about. He ever, the only thing he's ever said about, okay, look, I'm building a duck call that does one thing. It will make you sound like if you learn how to blow it,

It'll make you sound just like a mallard hen on the water. And that's what you want. A mallard duck would think you are one to come over and you. Put him in the pot. Yeah. Yeah. Now, here's the story, okay. FBI guy, Caulfield one day and told him,

I run the lie detector machine. Okay, and he said, and since I'm an avid hunter, he said, I went and I, uh, recorded live ducks, you know, calling. And then, you know, I made a test. I run that through the machine that is a lie detector. And I run you on a duck call through the machine. The machine said you are a duck.

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, he called me and told me that. That's pretty cool. No, he said the reason they had them, what that machine did when they wire people on undercover stuff and they would, they had a mic,

they wired them. Well, so when the crooks are talking, you know, this and that another, well, they got them on tape. Well,

what was happening was, the reason they built this machine is people would say, that ain't me. That's not me on that tape. I never did that. And they said, well, you know, it sounds like him,

but they said, how can you prove it? Well, they had to have some proof. So when they run you through the machine, if the machine says you said it, you said it. You said it. Well, he took that, blew into it with a duck call, and taped some wild ducks.

Put them on it, and they put them together. And he said, it was a match. So your duck call, according to the machine, was a duck. It really wasn't a duck. It was just a man who knew what he was doing. But that's pretty good. I said, I'm going to use that information.

You care if I use that? He said, oh, I don't mind. That's marketing one oh, run right there. We're endorsed by the FBI. That's it. Boy, sound lizer. I love it. Well, let's take one more.

I think we got, I'm getting lost in all the stories. Let's take a break. I'll find out how many more we got. And we'll be right back. All right, we're back from, I think that's going to be our last break. I don't know. We're doing the show a little different today. We have Unashamed star Phil Robertson.

Phil, I didn't know y'all did. four days a week on unashamed yeah that's why you don't see me much around here because my plate is full enough yeah but that that that is a lot of work there but obviously you can catch unashamed same places you catch us uh and it is every day that we're not on they're on and they what do y'all do y'all unashamed y'all pontificate about jesus way more we we do talk about jesus we just talk about silly things like eagle the pigeon as well yeah he's well the centerpiece of our podcast. I like that.

So Phil, we do emails here on this podcast. We have our fans, email us in. And we had an email a few weeks ago. And do you remember the guy that emailed in about the Jonah and the whale? Yeah,

he wants to know what kind of fish. And so do you have an opinion on what kind of fish? What are you talking about now? Jonah and the whale. Or Jonah and the fish? Yeah. They wanted to know. It's real simple.

A big one. That's exactly right. That's what I had told about. Somebody says, look, if you're going to, you know, by faith, we believe the universe was formed at God's command so that what is seen was not made out of what's visible. If you control the atomic structure of everything, what holds this woods together, the concrete, you look up, you look in the oceans and all that.

look the almighty could make a fish that could swallow monroe louisiana yeah i mean yeah that's true yeah there's no varmint no thing you look out there in the ocean somebody of the dan showed me yesterday big old one of them big whales came up you know unbelievable the size of that thing he was bigger than the boat oh yeah and look yeah one time all the dinosaurs and all that god just showing you some of the things he's made. If you want to build a big enough fish to swallow a man, it would be as comfortable as being in this living room sitting down there, you know,

and you're in the fish's belly. I mean, it's no problem. No problem. So that got us, we, that got me inside, were you on that episode? Well, we got all pontificating.

I just love that word. What is the question you want to ask when you get to heaven? Yeah. So we have people emailing that in right now. I wouldn't be asking questions. I would just be thinking. I'm glad I'm here. I ain't worried by how, because I've already got that figured out.

I didn't think you know why you ended up there. So it makes you watch what your lips say and watch how you roll. You're like, hmm. Your mold of operation. Did I see love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Did I see that coming out of that? individuals, that's the way they were.

Man, woman, it doesn't make any difference. You say, you're either a slave to sin or a slave to righteousness. Watch this right here. Here, this happens to be the first president of these United States. You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life. And above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. these will make you a greater and happier people than you are we should have listened to George Washington happier

but what do we do God there's no God all Yale Princeton all these big fancy colleges at one time all their gates where you walked in all Bible verses 200 years ago 200 years you're like there were all preaching school rules. All of them. And you look at them now, they just been stripping away the Bible verses over the years. And now you look at no more Bible verses. And not only that. And look at now the crop that they're producing and you're like, Washington, D.C., our capital of our nation,

it's written in concrete everywhere. Yeah, George Washington. We are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To me, to the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian. Make sure you're a Christian before anything else. First president of the United States, you say, well, the second one, John Adams, what did he say? John Adams, where is he? Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book

and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts they're exhibited. What a utopia? What a paradise would that region be? If people just love God? loved their neighbor. He said, think about that world. So what do we do? The Christian religion is above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed ancient or modern times. The religion of wisdom, virtue, equity, and humanity.

I have examined all religions. This is the second president of the United States. I've examined all religions. and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world. That's the way they were talking 245 years ago, 250 years ago. That's the way our government officials were talking. All I have to say is, look at us now. It's quite different. It's a sad story. You all are watching the preliminary,

collapsing of an empire. You're saying it's imploding. Trying to be good without God, boys. Ain't going to happen. Here comes Carl Marks one more time. I'm like, when are they going to get off old Carl? They just keep going back to him. One of the ungodliest people on the face of the earth.

I'm going to Jesus and what he did three days later. He died and three days later raised from the dead. Let's see. My sins are removed. guaranteed I can be raised from the dead, given power from the Holy Spirit, and all I'm commanded to do was love God and love my neighbor for the life of me. What's the downside to that? There ain't no downside.

Well, here's the problem. It makes too much sense. Maybe. Much sense. If we die and they're right, it's just, I guess. We're in a mess, boys. That's why we need to. But if we die and we're right.

Somebody got hell to pay. You got it. It ain't going to be me. I'm going to chase ducks the rest of my life on the earth. You know, so I keep going, until we depart. The Bible calls your physical death as a departure. Your soul and spirit goes to be with God. Your body goes in the cemetery.

When Jesus returns, it's the last event. When he returns, he's bringing the body, the soul, spirit of the ones who have died. There's a resurrection of their bodies and they'll be given immortal bodies. It's a gathering and not only that it's a gathering and the only thing

that involved with it with me I will have a change of address. Change address, boys. It will never be. I'll get to say it all. I don't know whether they're going to be ducks there or not, but I would think they would be. Oh, it will be.

We're talking about the creator of the cosmos. Boy, wouldn't it be nice to duck on from now? And no limit. No run out of bullets. Don't run out of bullets. That's right. And no limit. And no game wardens.

No, I just kidding. All right. Yeah, we've gone down that road here on this podcast before. Well, Phil, we appreciate having you. And, hey, if you're wondering, we're going to end with a little Bible reading like we always do. I got one dialed up here that Phil alluded to earlier. But if you're wondering, how. do I get to where he's talking about? He mentioned a few traits that are found in Galatians 522,

but the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control against such things. There is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the spirit, let us keep in step with the spirit. Jesus number one. That's it. Can't go wrong. Can't go wrong. Thank you, Phil.

Hey, no problem.