Duck Call Room - Phil Robertson's Double-Date Plans Might Just Leave You Stunned

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

If you think you know Phil Robertson, prepare to be shocked. Mac Owen, one of the original Duckmen (and John-David's uncle), reveals what it was like to go out on the town with Phil and Miss Kay back in the day, and Martin, Stone, and John-David are blown away. Uncle Si talks about his beloved hunting trenchcoat and cracks everyone up with wild deer-hunting stories. Mac remembers insulting Phil's blind-building skills, life as Phil's first business partner, close calls in the woods, and Phil's questionable advice about deodorant. And the boys get letters from Duck Call Room's youngest guests, Leia and Sawyer. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back, folks. We're back here in a duck car room. If you're watching on YouTube right now, you're probably wondering why me and Johnny Dee are... We're sharing a microphone today. So close. And, you know, anyway, that's because we have a special guest in here. Look, if you have followed Duck Commander from the beginning,

which I know a lot of y'all have, whenever he pans that camera over to the next side, you're going to recognize the guy sitting by side. The Biscuit Maker. Who just so happens to be Johnny D's uncle, Mack Owens, Owen, no S, I'm here to educate you. There's no S on either one of their names. Yeah, but my name has always been Owens.

I guess you do have plausible deniability if you keep it that way. No, I wouldn't, me. I don't know what y'all told me. That's right. But we're honored to have back with us today. I ain't seen him in quite a while. I think the last time was when you come down and preach the sermon, you know, for celebrate recovery, which I enjoyed thoroughly.

but has everything been in your world in Colorado excellent you know there's not as many I live at 9,000 feet elevation and so when I come down here I got a lot of energy and people are like are you on vitamins or something I said no I ain't on vitamins you got something we don't have oxygen and so I'm breathing in every bit of this oxygen and there ain't no ducks at 9,000 feet because they can't breathe up there either

I don't need to go to Colorado no you don't need to go up there you need another little two to oxygen just looking at backpack right there. Oh, there you go. I got to get that thing fixed. It's been bono. Uh-oh. It's wacky now. I will tell you this. I moved to this place in Colorado, and when I went and looked at the property, they said it had three lakes on it. And I went in there, and I looked, and I was looking around for these lakes. And I'm like, now, where are these lakes you talking about?

And they said, right there. I said, you mean them ponds? I said, no, we got lakes in Louisiana. You guys got ponds up here. So there's not a lot of water for the ducks. But my daughter decided that I needed a duck. So she found some rescue ducks. You ever heard of rescue ducks? No. No, well, I hadn't either. So she brought them to my house and she said,

these ducks were at a park in Denver and the other ducks were being mean to them. Oh, so they rescued. Yeah, so she brought them to me. I'm thinking, I'm going to make a gumbo out of them. This may not be a rescue. No, this ain't going to be a rescue. This is going to be a meal. That's right.

Okay. I have to agree, so let's get a duck gumbo going, boys. That duck was being bullied by the other duck. The duck was being bullied. That's right. That's Colorado. In Denver. In Denver.

Yeah. At a park. The only thing I remember in Denver is we stopped over there one day of flying somewhere and Willie was with us. I went to the restroom and the next day I know I'm in the dark. Okay. In a place I've never been in before. So I had to just.

feel my way around because he turned the lights out it took me 30 minutes to get out of the bathroom that's something willie would do to somebody oh no no yeah will he's still the same mac in case you're wondering okay it sounds like it no he changed oh i reckon so well mac in case you had noticed everybody around here is getting long in the tooth yeah have you noticed that i have noticed that but you know he's right there with us i was as i was saying you know at 9000 feet you've got to learn to walk up these mountains and back down. I tell you, walking up is a lot tougher than walking down. But I have a question for you.

Okay. In all sincerity. So you started hunting with Phil. What year? 1988. 1988. Now, was anybody in the blind allowed to laugh? Nobody was allowed to speak.

The first thing I said was, I'm sitting there in the duck blind. And the first duck season, I'm sitting there like, okay, I don't know what I'm supposed to be able say here, but it started raining. And the rain started hitting me right across the legs here. So I'm under the roof, but the roof is short. And the rain, and the first thing I said was, who built this mess? Look, and Phil looks over at me like, you idiot, I did. And he didn't say idiot, but I saw it in his eyes.

He said, I built it. you think you can do better? I said, oh, I know I can do better. Oh, yeah. So that started a long line of blind building right there. Yeah. And that was plumb and square and all this good stuff, okay? Like stuff is supposed to be built.

Phil ain't never squared nothing. Yeah, when I brought a level out there and a nail gun, he's like, what in the world is all that for? What are you doing? What are you doing? He said, hey, we've got to spray this thing up. Phil said, no, that's the last thing we want to do to square anything up right here. Oh, but back in them days, it was serious business, wasn't it? Oh, it was serious business.

Everything was serious from, you know, yeah, I won't even mention that. No, I can't go there. But, yeah, everything was serious. There's some stories best left untold right here. Now, hey, I will say this, too, every year the highlight, though, because back then, duck season was only 30 days. I mean, that was it. So you had to get everything you could get in.

And Cy was stationed somewhere in the world, and he would come in. he'd plan his hunting trips around, I mean, his leave around hunting. And so I'll never forget the time he came in from Alabama with a deer strapped to the hood of his truck. Big ten point. I'm like, where did that come from? He said, well, I killed it in Alabama. Yeah, it had to bring back. Everybody, when I was driving back, everybody in the world was looking to it. Now, there goes a true redneck. You drove a deer from Alabama to here on your hood? Oh, yeah. No, no. The buddy me that I met an army, okay, he lives in that's about, he said, hey, come, come on hunting with me. I said, okay, so he said, go up the hill there and he said, you'll see some deer, you know,

from the buck. So I'll sit down, hit the top of the hill, yeah, pretty up there, you know, and I'm listening, I can hear deer walking, and I'm looking, yeah, I can't see anything. All I can hear him crunching the leaves. You know, finally then, hey, the biggest one, 14 point, he's already by me. Okay, well that made me mad, okay, because the biggest one slick me. Well, then the next one I see, I see his antlers coming out of some short pine trees, you know. Well, when I sew up, he seized me and he takes off running.

Well, just about time I fix the squeeze trigger, I had it on his shoulder. Well, he still saw me again when I raised up, and he started to turn. I pulled the trigger, and I popped it right here, just dropped him. Well, there was another one, you know, 10 point behind him. Here he goes. Okay, I was fixing to shoot him, okay. And my buddy come up and he said, well, wait a minute, hold it. Right here is your deer.

I just, you know, put the gun down. And he went, oh, bad, mad move. I said, yeah, it was because I'd have killed that one for you. Yeah. We'll be back right after this. All right, look, springtime is here. It's warming up. You know what that means?

That means more outside cooking. And y'all know. We love to eat beef around here. And that's what because of our friends over at Triedells beef makes such a good product, baby. Ain't it good? It's so good. Our friend, Sall Robertson would say, buy on the grill! Look, before we got Triedells, getting ready for a cookout, man, somebody had to run the grocery store, do all the things, grab whatever was left in case you were late in the day.

And you never really know where that beef comes from. But with Triedales beef, we skip the grocery store and do it a different way. Triedales comes from a family ranch out. Texas. They're a fifth generation American ranch, so they've been at it for a while. Now, look, the beef comes straight from their ranch and other ranchers they work with who raise cattle the same way. Their steaks are properly aged and shipped straight from the ranch to your door. We threw a couple of ribbys on the grill. Look, salt, pepper, garlic, hot fire, that's all you need. Look, because I'll tell you what, when the beef comes from people who raise cattle for a living,

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Duck. Support ranch families and eat some dang good steak. Martin, I like sharing a microphone with you. We're back on the duck call room with tails from, I guess it was the middle of Duck Commander. The 80s, boy. 80s and 90. Yeah, well, it was, Duck Commander 1 was the only one that had come out.

And then we started hunting together right after that. Because you were on what? Duckmen 2. You were on more than that, huh? All of them. All of them. All of that. The best one, I don't know if Mack would remember this, okay.

Because we would go way before daylight, get in the blind, throw the decals out and all that stuff. You still do. Still do. Well, okay, but anyway. Somebody still does it, right? The day would be going along, you know, and then, you know, Mac would say,

okay, everybody ready for some biscuits and eggs and baking and all this? Yep, we ready. So he was going blind in the kitchen and, you know, go ahead and cook his breakfast. So, you know, we're hearing it just the bacon sizzling and it's smelling good and all that. Well, hey, they said, hey, get ready. Here comes some wood ducks. Okay. So we got ready that feels to cut them, you know.

So one of them was way up there. I'm talking about the one I shot at. You know, I just threw up. He was going over the, you know, coming off. I just boom, fold him. Mack comes out of the kitchen with two plates with bacon and sausage, you know, eggs and everything. Now, he's been back in the kitchen, okay, and it takes a while to get out on the blind. I'd already shot, and it'd been like probably, if you counted it, probably a 12 count, slow.

And when he walks out, it's splash. And Mac said, boy, he must have been up there. I said, he was. And I said, I made a good shot on him too. Okay, all right. So that, right. And so talking about long shots, you know, when when Si would come in from being on leave to come duck hunt with us for 30 days, you'd always wear that big wool trench coat. Because back then, we couldn't afford clothes. Nobody was giving us clothes. And we had some pretty rough-looking clothes. And you wore that

trench coat. And when it started raining, that thing had to weigh like 100 pounds. Oh, no. But it was, hey, but it was. Hey, but it was. it was warm because it was wool. But it was soaking wet. Green O.D. So the first day he's back, he's back in the duck blind. And, you know, the boys, and I mean, Jace and then would be on that end,

they'd always be trying to get something out of you. And there was a crane over there one day. And I'll never forget that crane was about, I don't know, about 100 yards or something. They said, bet you can't kill that crane, Sigh. Yeah, up in the top of an old dead tree. One of them big white ones that you put out in the D-cars. He got one of the look like.

I got it, but it was a, what, y'all, and I kept telling them, I said, hey, we would take the rifle in the case we'd seen a deer. And I had my 30, not 30, 30, 30, 30, I had my 30, 30, out six. Y'all, and I kept saying, I bet you can't hit that crane. Before we get any further, aren't those, that a federally protected bird? Nobody ever killed a crane. No. Nobody ever killed a crane. They were just making sure.

No, because your words were, my mom taught me never to kill nothing I wasn't going to eat. That's right. Yeah. I kept telling them, I said, hey, look, y'all are trying to make me go against what my father and mother taught me growing up. But you said, in the size of a dime at 90 meters, 90 meters, you could put three shells. That's right. 90 meters. You kept stressing 90 meters.

I said, hey, look, when I threw this rifle in, I said, I use a dime, and I circle it, and then I put a quarter over that and circle it. then I put a dollar a fifth sense piece over that in circling, then I put a dollar over that in circling. And I said, and hey, at 100 yards. 90 meters, you just came back from Germany. I said, hey, I will put three 30 out six rounds touching each other. I said, so shooting that little old crane over off the top of that dead tree would not be anything for me to do.

Okay, so here was the line, though, after that. And you said, so don't make me do it. That's right. I said, y'all are going to. Don't make me do it. That's right. Y'all going to fool around and make me kill that. Don't make me do it.

That's what you get. Yeah. I don't know how many times you said that. Well, we're going to. But the moral of that story, the crane did leave there. Right?

He left there alive. Alive. He flew up his own volition. Yo, hey, yeah, but right before what happened was, is they said, they kept saying, I said, all right, y'all have done made me mad.

I'm fixed to kill him. And when I said, I'm going to kill him, hey, he took off. I said, hey, he's been listening to us the whole time. And I said, and when y'all convinced me Did he kill him?

He said, I got to get out of here. Mel. That's how that story ended. I'm glad you didn't kill him, sir. Yeah, well, no, nobody died that day. I feel like I should be. Nothing was heard in the video. I feel like I should be paying to be here today.

This is, this is fantastic. Oh, no. It's amazing how much more detailed Mac's stories about Sire than what Sire said. Mack, I am going to have to tossing you on one thing. Well, hey, right. When you use words like volition, you just really stumps us. He's the only one that would pay attention to me.

All the rest of them just ignored whatever I said. Well, I mean, Mac and I think Matt can testify to this. Like when you, once I first started coming, he wouldn't say nothing. Right. Like nothing. Camera go to him. Well, no, no, because that's what most people don't understand about me. I am a shy person, really.

Very quiet. Very quiet and very shy. Unless commas and zeros are involved. Well, hey, no. I finally run into the people I really wanted to run into. They had a lot of money. And then, hey, that changed my whole perspective on these cameras. Yeah, the first time I had to figure sigh out because I came out.

And by the way, he's talking about when Mike was in the kitchen, I was in the duck blind. Our duck blinds had these full kitchens in there with a nice gas stove. I mean, you know, it was nice. Oh, yeah. That's when we had a carpenter on staff. That's right. A real carpenter.

Right. A real carpenter. Yeah. Now they're benches that were carved with chainsaws and a little hodgepodgepodge on them. See, they went back to it. Yeah. Back. They reverted.

Oh, no. Yeah. When you left, the blind building. It went down. And that was the, but with Sai had to figure out what he was saying to me because I said, hey, side, do you want a plate of food? Does my, no. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, what is it? No or yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Or no. Do you want something eat or not?

No, no. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, so one of my favorite scenes in all the Duck Commander videos is the famous spitting scene. Yep. Where I think it was Mac, Burley, Phil, and who was the other one? Was it Jace? No.

No, W.E. I think. Am I on that? It may have been Big Boy. It may have been Burley's dead. Yeah. I've been day. Me and Burley and Furley and. fill were the three main spitters.

That's right. I know that. And I had the longest stream. You guys can check it out. If anybody wants to go back to that scene, this ain't even a humble brag. No, this is what it is. You have a contest. Yeah.

This is what it is. Look, I remember that. When I first come in on leave, and they said, you haven't seen the newest video, have you? I said, no, I hadn't. So they put it on. And that's what that, they just had it on that scene. That's all I saw. Yeah.

It started, and 15 minutes has gone by, and it's your... Johnny Dees pulled in the slow motion was the best. Yeah, I'm on the floor, just, I couldn't stop. I said, that's the craziest thing. And everybody said, yeah, but that's the favorite part of this. Oh, yeah, that's what stands up. Whose idea was that? That was actually Phil's idea.

Phil's the one that said, we need to have a spitting scene, boys. And that's when we had, Gary Stevenson was a film guy. And we would have to literally carry out five gallon buckets of batteries because he had this camera that was like three feet long. Oh, yeah. Look, and the way it was, it was one of any deal telling me, well, hey, y'all go have to, you're going to have to get these ducts right here in this two foot square.

And everybody was getting fed up with all the filming. Everybody would say, what do you mean we? Why not, you can't move the camera? He said, no, I can't move the camera. And Jace, Mr. Easygoing was like, back in the back. I can't stand this cameraman. Of course, the cameraman's over there with his headphones on, listening to everything.

And Jason's like, yeah, I wish he'd just get out of here so we could hunt. And all of a sudden it comes over like a loudspeaker, Jace, you have the vision of a stick of margarine. Yeah. I wish we had that audio still because we need to replay that for him during Ducks. Oh, no. He still forgets we're trying to sell duck calls around here. He said, get rid of that cameraman.

See? That same deal, though. I mean. And Jason's wanted to duck hunt. But everybody flares ducks, but then. Yeah. Oh, no. No, no.

They're failing, Jayes. They don't see them. No, no, that's the best part. Okay, that's the best part. They always, when Jace brushes the blind, wherever I'm sat, that's where the most brush is. Okay. And they're looking, I'm standing up, and you can't see me.

Nobody in the blind. even knows I'm there because they can't see me. And he's flaring the ducks. And I'm flaring the ducks and I'm saying, hey, I got the little flash alert for you on the ends. I said, y'all need to stand up and look at where you're standing and then look where I'm standing. I said, there's only two open places in this duck blind. I said, I'd be on your end, Jason Robertson, and on your end, Phil Robertson.

I said the rest of us, all we can do is stick our gun out and hope we kill something when we shoot it. Because we can't see the duck. Now, we didn't have a lot of fun with the cameraman, though. You know, after Stevenson was Greg Epinette. I'll never forget the day. So we're riding into the duck hole, and Greg decided it would be a good idea

to ride with his legs over the front of the boat. In the water. So he's dragging, feels back in the back, and all of a sudden, look, It was this quick. Hoo, vo, bo! And Epinette's gone. We're like, good night.

And all of a sudden, he comes back over. You can't even seem. Yeah, he comes back over the side, though, and we're like, what happened? He said, a stop! A stop! So the stop cut him off in the shins, took him out. So look, we get him back. He's soaking wet.

He's underwater. All his gears on. He's soaking. We get him back, and Phil had brought a bunch of clothes that somebody had given from Goodwill. And there was like these bags of clothes in the back. Well, there was a pink pair of clothes. of coveralls in there. We don't know where they came from,

but all of a sudden, Eponet comes out in this pink pair coveralls onto the shooting porch, right? You remember? Why were iPhones so late? Ah, that'd be a great picture. Let me guess what Phil said after that happened. What kind of idiot?

Sent on the front of the boat with his name. That's exactly what he said. That's exactly what he said. What kind of idiot? Oh. Well, look, let's... I'm surprised. It didn't kill him or either just cut his legs. Oh, yeah.

Hey. This stump was this big around, and I mean, but he was like shot out of a cannon. When it hit, he was gone. He was gone. We didn't even see him. He was on the water. Oh, then he come up and said, are you all right now? He said, well, I guess.

Boy, he pulled him pants up. Wasn't no meat on them, she is. No, no. I just, yeah. And y'all, and Robertsons are known for being caring and nurturing after something like that happens. I'm sure y'all took good care of after that happened. Well, let's take our next break and we'll be back for more tales from the trip, so to speak, right after this. Well, Mac, look, I think everybody that's listening to these dope, and if you don't know,

Mac, you were essentially Phil Robertson's first business partner. I mean, essentially, y'all bought the land together. Right. Like, if it hadn't been for you, it wouldn't have been that. So how feel as a business partner? I just, how'd y'all's conversations go on decisions and stuff like that? I'm just curious.

Well, how the conversations went, you know, it was pretty much like, Owens, we need this land. I'm like, I agree, but we both have wives. He said, that's the problem. We've got to figure out how to break it to them that they need this land. So I'll never forget. Them. Yeah, well, we had, me and Phil, you know, he was a little bit, he'd been a convert a little bit longer than I had to Jesus.

And so he was, he wasn't any more cuth. No, he was just, he'd been a convert longer. That's all it was. So, but, but, uh, we decided that since we're changing our lives to become new men, that we needed to take care of our women a little better. So we had one night a week, we had to have get out of yourself night. And that meant that anything the wives wanted us to do, we had to do it. So we would, you know, go have a meal together, go to a movie, whatever. So actually, Phil Robertson, I have been to the movie theaters with him quite often.

Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty, it was pretty, yeah, that, that don't, that don't, I promise you. There's not very many people that can say that. And so anyway, he said, I'll tell you what Owens. When we take them out this week, let's take them somewhere really nice, whatever movie they want to go to, wherever they want to go to eat. In other words. And then we'll break it to them. Yeah.

We got 40 acres we need to buy. And that was a lot. 40 acres. Oh, my goodness. Well, it actually went pretty good. We got 40, then we got 180 from the Sisters of Samoa somewhere, I don't know, somewhere over there. And Catholic Church, they had the land. We bought it from them.

And we had to write, he's pretty smooth. He wrote a whole proposal of our, how we were going to be conservationist and take care of the duck population over there and only harvest the ones we needed. And they said, fantastic, Mr. Robertson, we'll sell that to you. So we bought that land. It ended up we had about 1,000 acres over there, just like that. But here's when it all made sense to the women. When a pipeline company said, we'd like to come across your land and we'll give you $13,000 to do it.

And Phil said no. That's when both of the ladies said, you idiot? Yeah, have you lost your mind? You're not going to take 13. He said, I can get more. Well, fortunately, Phil did hold out, and he got us a lot more in a bunch more pipeline. So after that, the women were all like, do y'all need to buy more land somewhere?

Yeah. And actually, but what paid for the land? I'll tell you what paid for the land. We didn't want to cut a tree over there. And a timber company come in and said, if you take out a third of the timber, it'll make everything a lot better. The canopy will grow and all that. So we said, okay, we'll do it.

So a casket company from Mississippi bought all those trees to make oak caskets out of. So that's where the land was paid for after that. And then all the pipeline money was gravy after that. That's incredible. And then you got to actually say, and then there's people that says, there's not a God in heaven. This is living, this is living proof, okay,

that two men, okay, that wasn't worth shooting, okay, to begin with, and that's just being honest. That's talking about you. I know, that's great. That's my uncle. That's just being honest.

You watch it. There's two Owens in the house first. One of them that need to but it too, okay? But I'm just saying, okay, this is proof that there is a God in heaven, okay? Because for these two to get together and actually say, hey, we need to buy some land,

and now we've got to convince our ladies that we need this land, that they need this land. All it took was a trip to the movie. That's right. I'm still trying to process Phil in a movie theater. Yeah. Or out of dinner? I'm disturbed by it.

That's incredible. No. So you and Phil used to be like a guy that would go, like, to the mall? Oh, look, Phil. We went to the movie at the mall. Willie invited Phil and Kay to his birthday. His 50th birthday party. And did show up?

They no-showed. Well, there you go. Cy was the only Robertson there. Jason didn't make an appearance later. That was after he heard from across the pastures. Well, he doesn't know if he heard the band playing. I was wondering what was going on. He just come over to check and see what was going on.

Oh, that's incredible, though. Yeah, I remember those stories about the casket in the pipeline. That's why we wanted Mack to tell it. I mean, who better to tell it than a guy that got paid for it? Right. You know, we could have told it, but it's not the same. So imagine now there are people that were buried in Phil Robertson and Mack Owen's trees. About five years ago, they could have really made a lot of money. That's right. We probably had duck commander caskets five years ago. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. Like, you know, or somebody brought the proposal to us and said, we ought to make duck commander caskets.

baskets. Here's the truth about both of them, though, deep down, okay. They slit. No, no. Oh. No, deep down, they're actually good, big-hearted men, both of them. Well, yeah. But if you'd tell Phil Robertson that, no, no, no.

No. Because he would call that weakness. Okay, to actually have a tender moment with someone. and go to the movies at the mall What do you mean to go to the movies? Duck Commander in the early 90s was a little different Oh, but if you think about it, it was pure genius. The image, the tough persona.

And then they were taking their wives to the movies at the mall. Yeah, that's right. It was on the same level. To buy 40 acres. It was on the same level as the spaghetti westerns. The good, bad, and the ugly. That was kind of done. deal it was. I don't know if it was on that level.

Oh, yeah, it was. It was. It was pretty good. It was. It was entertaining for us rednecks. Oh, man. Well, let's take it under the break. We'll be back right now. So, Mike, look, we've told a little bit of the past story about running around with this wild bunch and everything. But you say you're living in Colorado. How did you end up in Colorado? Did we run you there? Did the Robertsons run you smooth the Colorado? No, no, no, no. That was, I'll have to say, look, I got some, actually, Jay, your wife, she's an angel. You know that, right? Yes, sir. All right.

So about four months ago, I got a box after she had called me of Mayhall, Muscatine, jelly, and some tomato relish. And so they didn't run me off here. I still, that was the, one of the hardest things for us to do in leaving here was leaving this family we were a part of because we really were family. We, we did everything together. I mean, it was, I'll never forget when I first became a Christian, like Cy said, I wasn't worth killing. I was straight out of the world, a drug addict, and I became a Christian, and I didn't know what to do. But I heard this Phil Robertson guy at church was there, and he liked to share the gospel with people. So I went up to him one Sunday. I said, hey, I hear you like to share the gospel, share about Jesus, what he did in your life.

If you could tell me how to do that, if you're going to share with somebody, just give me a call, and I'd love to come over. well no call for about three weeks so i see him at church on sunday morning i said hey i thought y'all said this was like a family around here uh i haven't got any calls and i hear you've been on some some bible studies what's the deal with that he said hey jack i'll call you and so he leaves he talks to k and he said i think at owens is serious well look he called me about the next two days and from there it was three years of Bible studies with people every other night. And he would share the gospel, because he wouldn't ever give anybody verses. He'd just just go.

You know how when he gets the Bible out, it's on. And so I would write down all the verses he was sharing and give those to people when they left. And so from that, there was a bond, a real family bond that took place. And we did more stuff as families together. I'll never forget riding in his station, wagon, the kind with the wood sides on it and the back seat that nobody wants to sit in because everybody's driving up from behind looking at you. We'd go places in that station wagon.

We went to a men's study or something he's going to go share at this thing. So he goes over his past street port. He goes over, shares the message, gets back in the car. We're riding down the interstate, Interstate 20, coming back to Monday, and all of a sudden, he just goes, dog crap. I'm like, dog crap. He said, Owen, you stepped in dog crap. I smell it. It's on your shoes.

You stepped in dog crap. Don't ever, Hey, Owen, don't ever leave a place without checking your shoes to see if there's dog crap before you get in a man's car. And I said, I don't think I stepped in dog crap. He said, check your shoes. I promise you you stepped in dog crap.

I said, okay, so I pull my shoes off in the front seat of this station wagon, and I smell it. Nope, no, I said, I ain't got dog crap on my shoes. It ain't me. Yeah. That's what I said, it ain't me. So he said, look, he wore them little little slip-on like sneakers. you remember, a claw thing.

So he pulls off one, nope, he pulls off the dog crap, dog crap. Owens, I told you, don't ever leave a place without smelling your shoes first. He cuts across three lanes of traffic. He's going, there's that first rest stop when you leave Streetport. He cuts across three lanes of traffic. I know now we're going to die. He cuts across, goes into that rest of a, he stops right in front of a water fountain, goes out and starts washing his shoes out on the water fountain right there.

I said, well, that's one way to get the dog crab off his shoes. He gets back in, wraps the shoe up in a tough, puts it in the bag and says, Owens, I've done you. Don't ever leave somewhere without checking your shoes, see if you got a dog crab on me. So anyway, no, the Robertsons did not run me to Colorado. They were one of the reasons we didn't want to leave, but we had a lot of grandkids that moved up there with our kids, and I really always have loved the mountains. And so now I'm just in a different stage of life.

I'm hunting bigger animals and having, having a blast. Hey, the Robinson doesn't hinder him from leaving, though. Well, the good news is dog crap don't bother him anymore. That's right.

They don't, no more. Because he can't smell. Yeah. There you go. Dog crap, B.O., you name it. It doesn't really bother him. Well, I will say on the B.O. deal, you know, I mean, he convinced me when I first got here.

He said, oh, and you don't have to wear deodorant no. I said, you don't? He said, no. He said, I promise you. It's manly. Do not wear deodorant. I said,

All right, well, that's good. I'm thinking, you know, he's smelling pretty strong, but I said, I'll try it for a while. Well, my wife convinced me that I do need to wear deodorant. And she said, and everybody smells fill, too, just so you know. But then when I moved to Colorado, I did find a place finally. You don't have to wear it because when you sweat up there, it evaporates before it ever stinks. Don't get musty. It's there and it's gone.

Yeah. But when I came back down to this level, Mary said, you packed your deodor. You did bring your overdraft Oh my goodness So it's only a family That you talk about stuff like that right? Oh yeah, we talk about it all the time

I've been told once or twice About needing more deodorant From stuff As recently as when I walked in It was a hard morning at the honey house But everything I say is out of love That is true But that is cool just to hear the story

of Mac and Phil becoming friends Because the number of people you all have impacted from driving down talking about dog crap, you know, to all the people Phil preaches to and stuff. And you, so you're the national director of Celebrate Recovery. Is that the correct? I don't want to mess it. Global. Global. Global.

Global. My bad. Whoa. Sorry, sorry. Universal director. Oh, they changed it. I'm like, whatever, you know, I'll do what I keep doing. So what do you do with Celebrity?

Give everybody a little insight. Well, Celebrity Recovery is a ministry for anybody. but if a hurt, hang up or have it. And I'm trying to figure out who doesn't have one of those. We all do. So basically what we do is go around the churches all over the world and share with them how they can invite people into the church that they should have been inviting in already. The people that Jesus hung out with, the people that were the worst of the worst, the people

that didn't have anywhere else to go. I mean, one of my favorite stories is about the woman at the well. And when Jesus went out of his way to go to a well, to wait on a person so that she could come and she would be the first convert in Samaria, and then he would ask her to go tell everybody. And she said, oh, I'm going to tell everybody who you are. And then it says, because of her testimony, many came to know Jesus Christ. And so what we do is just go and share on any given weekend until COVID hit.

We were doing two seminars a month all over the world. Now we're doing one a month, but we're getting back to a lot more in-person stuff. And when we go to a church, before COVID, it was anywhere from 1,200 to 1,400 people would show up. And to me, that's a great sign of churches, because these were all leaders from churches all over the place in that area where we went. They were coming to learn how they could invite those very people into the church that Jesus was waiting on. And so that's what I do. I just share with people about how to, God only uses broken people, and we're looking for broken people. well there's plenty of them out there yep no shortage no sir that's what i've still got a few

that's what's so amazing about it i got some broke parts myself yeah oh yeah don't we all everybody's got them but that's what that's the most amazing part of it okay is that hey you think one person may not make a difference they can yeah the power is in the message Amen. Not the messenger. You've changed your lifestyle, okay? So does Phil Robertson. Okay, both of you is going down the wrong path,

just like I did. I had to change my lifestyle. And then it's totally amazing what God can do with a broken person. Amen. That's right. So, Mack, if our listeners want to learn more about Celebrate Recovery, where can they go to? www.w celebrate recovery.com or just type in Celebrate Recovery in your search engine up top and press search and it will come up.

You'll find. Yep. All right. That's cool. Well, let's take our last break. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back. Guess what?

What? We got a letter in the mail from a little girl named Leah. Leah, our guest, Leah? Yes. If you were called, she was awesome. That got on me about I couldn't call doctor. So she sat in that chair right where Max sitting. This is a little girl.

She was what, she was what, 11th birthday. They came from Maryland. She wanted to come to West Monroe, Louisiana for her birthday and come to Duck Commander. Wow. Well, their car got broke down. Well, they ran into a dog. Big dog, busted up the radiator, went across the street here. my buddy Brad is a mechanic.

Well, he couldn't get the party in for about three days. Long story short, he calls me. He said, look, this little girl is from Maryland. She's a hunter. You're not going to believe how good she can blow a duck call. All she want to do was come to duck commander for her birthday. They drove all the way from Maryland. So we made her here and gets talking to her, and she is sharp as a tag.

And then she got that duck call. and it was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. So we tried to set up a little duck haul competition between her and size. I didn't go for it. But anyway, she sent us a letter and some T-shirts for the University of Maryland and some hats over there. She said, hey guys, this is Leah. We're just checking in. I'm sorry, I haven't talked to you in a while.

After my family watched the podcast, my mom and brother wanted to go duck hunting. So we took my brother hunting and hopefully Mama can go next season. when she goes on to talk about how many ducks they killed. And she says she didn't get a deer, but hopefully she'll get one next year. Daddy bought her a compound bow. But anyways, we get to the end here. She said, right now I'm still in Delaware enjoying the outdoors. Thank you again for making my 11th birthday the best.

Keep killing those ducks, exclamation mark. P.S. Congrats Martin on your baby twins on the way. There you go. and P-S-S-U-S-U-S-U-S-U-S-U-Sye, Your Duck Calling is Great, I was just pulling your leg. Much love. This goes to show you, 11-year-olds can be dishonest to.

That's right. And we also got a letter from Sawyer. Oh, I pulled up here, y'all, it was a day to do the podcast. I pulled up here, and there's some fans in a van. You know, as soon as I got out, grabbed my... My tea and my desk and my auction started walking in, this eight-year-old kid, and he's a pill. Okay, he jumped out and said, hey, can I be on your podcast?

I said, come on. So we come walking in and I said, hey, guys, we got a guest today. Went to sit down where are you sitting right now. He was a peal now. Tobacco farmer. Tobacco farmer. From where? From Clarksville, Tennessee.

And we also got one from Ealing, from Tupil, Mississippi. from Tupelo, Mississippi. Okay? So that covered everybody that wrote into us. All right. Well. And Sawyer, I'll be calling you. That does cover them.

Sawyer sending us some pictures too. Yeah, he did. That's a good time to remember, Bob. But Johnny Dee, what's in that mailbox? Microphone sharing episode. This has been fun, Martin. No, so we always do, hello at Duck Call Room. If you got anything, send it on, send it in.

I read every one of them. Some of them make it on. I try and do the best I can to respond to some But it always is weird when I get some And we have a guest and it's just like Wow, this was perfect And Mack's here today And Mac, you might be the perfect person to answer this one

So Daniel from Nova Scotia Canada, Canada I'm married with two young boys At the ages of four and almost two, congratulations But he's struggling with drugs and alcohol He tries to make sure his boys have a roof over their head And food on table But I've dug myself into this hole and I'm struggling to get out of it.

I myself think I believe in Jesus, but when I down and pray for help, I end up back to where I started. My question is, what else can I do to help myself? It's ruining my relationship with my wife, and I'm lost and not sure what to do anymore. I just don't want to end up back where I am now.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. You bet. Daniel, I got a ringer in here for you for advice. Daniel, first of all, you cannot do it alone. second of all, you won't end up maybe losing your family or making it worse for them. You'll lose them entirely if you keep on this road. So I don't want to leave it there because there is hope and there's big hope. There are celebrate recoveries all over Canada.

You look it up and when you get to the website, you're going to find a place that says group finder up in the top right-hand corner. You click on that. You'll find a group in your area. There'll be phone numbers that you can call. And besides that, John David, if you'll give me his email, not on the air, of course, but if you'll send that to me, I'll make sure and contact you, Daniel, find out where you're at, and I'll find you a group in your area. Wow.

There's hope. There is hope. That was a big time answer. Yeah. Well, that's awesome. And yeah, I've got it right here. I'll email it to you afterwards. Perfect.

Yeah, Daniel, I'd just say. And thanks for, I appreciate him being vulnerable enough to share that. We get a lot of heavy emails. And when I read that one, I was like, if you weren't here, I was going to mention, like, I had family that was gone through it, and I now have family that helps out tremendously with it through Celebrate Recovery. But I think the key thing you hit on there, no matter what we're struggling with in life, you can't do it alone. Right. Whether it's any sin at all, if you think you're going to fix it by yourself, A, you need Jesus, and B, you need community around you. And that's kind of what Mac was hitting on there.

Right, perfect. Si, you got anything? Yep. I just read a book, Stonehead in his office. It's called Narrative. Okay, and it's written by Cecil someone. I can't remember his last name. Carter.

Carter? Yeah. Okay, but anyway, he talks about, are you aware of God's presence in your life? Okay. And all these stories we've been listening to me and Mac Tell a while ago, God was always there.

Okay. So Daniel, you need to be aware. Okay. I'll ask you a question. What do you know about the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, and what do you believe about them? Check that out. Okay, and that'll help you.

Okay. Because like all of us, we're all been broken. Okay. And that's when Jesus does his finest work. Okay. You've got to be broken. I got you a bunch of all over me. You've got to be broken so you'll listen to him.

Okay. There's nothing that Jesus Christ can't overcome. Nothing. Okay. He's the creator for crying out loud. So, hey, turn to him, my man, and, hey, keep you focus on him. And what side just said was that we all need a father, and we have a father that's looking after us.

Daniel, them boys are yours? They need a father. They need you, and they need you on top of your game. and you can do it, brother. I know you can do it. Man, that was a good one. All right, we got time for one more. Buddy, his name is Buddy.

He's not my buddy, but he could be buddies. I don't know. He's from Mineral Wells, Texas, and this one's probably a good one for Mack to be here, too. A little over a year ago, he took a job on a very large ranch, and he moved far from friends and family. After 15 months, that job wasn't something. He was helping him grow,

and he remembers just feeling like he didn't have purpose and crying out to God to show him where to go. After that, a few days later, he ends up talking to another guy, gets a job interview, and he's accepted a job moving again. He feels like it's the right move, and he's starting it towards the end of May,

but he's starting to get cold feet. He feels like it's what he needs to do, but he's just asking, you know, is there any advice on taking a leap and making a move and facing a little bit of fear in the unknown? And this is Buddy? This is Buddy from Mineral Wells, Texas. Yeah, I'll tell you what you do, buddy. My wife and I moved to Colorado, we did not know anybody where we moved.

Our kids lived out there, but they lived two hours away from us. So the very first thing we did when we got to the community we were moving to was God online, found the churches in that area. I looked at a church that I thought, hey, I might really rest. resonate with this church right here. So I went to that church. They became part of our family now, and we've been that church for 10 years. But we would not have made it. Again, it's back to, we can't do this alone. If you're struggling with something alive, if you're moving off by yourself, whatever, God made us to live in community. And so when you get wherever

you're going, you get online, I mean, start right now. You can get online and see other churches there. And the first Sunday you're there, you go find that church and you show. up and you keep showing up. I tell everybody, don't show up just one time and say, well, I didn't like that. You know, give it at least six tries, wherever you go. Give it six tries. I guarantee you this, you know, they'll have a misery back guarantee. You can have your misery back if you don't like that church. You can always go to another church, right? Misery back guarantee. And hey, know this? Misery love's company. Yeah, that's right. Okay. I'm serious. That's why.

why, hey, this deal about, hey, if you can't do it alone, then, hey, open your mind and go look for help. Get help. Everybody needs help every once in a while. You can do this, buddy. This is a matter of just looking for that church, finding it, and sticking with it. And I guarantee you, you can find family. You know, here's what I know. The people that are family of mine, first of all, they are followers of Jesus Christ, and that instantly makes us family.

You know, and when I find those people, I find people that like doing the same stuff I like doing, and that's the people I hang around. Duck hunting was one of those things. And it's always easier when you have people surround yourself with people of like minds. Hey, is this about over? Can I do one more, a little short story? Yeah. Okay, so. You can't tell you nothing.

Okay. I moved to Colorado. I'm out in the National Forest. I live three miles off the main road, so I have to plow three miles to get out. and to come back in during the winter. So I'm plowing one day, and this guy comes by me in a truck, and he stops, and he stops my tractor. He's like, you know, hey, stop the tractor.

I stopped me. He said, hey, you see my dogs come across your place? And I'm like, I'm thinking, first of all, I don't know you or your dogs, and what are your dogs doing on my place? And I said, no, I don't guess so. What kind of dogs were they? He said, they're blue ticks. I said, hound dogs?

He said, yeah, hound dogs. I said, what are you hunting? He said, mountain lions. He said, you are Mack Owen from West Monroe, Louisiana, ain't you? I said, yeah, and who are you? He said, I'm Willie Treeshell from West Monroe, Louisiana. I'm like, get out of here. Well, come to find out, we were almost family.

I knew all his family and everybody, his sister went to church with us here. And so it was amazing that in that moment, I connected with somebody just because of our relationship with Jesus Christ. and I knew that we were going to have a good, and now me and Willie and his son, Cole, and the whole family we hunt together up there in Colorado. But it was all about connection, and it was all about getting together with other fellow believers and knowing just because Jesus made the difference that we're family immediately. That's awesome. Well, anything, Martin?

All right, we end everyone on a Bible verse. You got one? Philippians 1-6, being confident of this, that he who began a good work in each one of us will carry it on to completion, completion date when Jesus Christ comes back. Last time I checked, Jesus sitting back, so that means all of us got work to do.

Let's keep about the work that Jesus has for us, each one of us. We got a job, and we love doing it. Uncle Mac, thank you for being with us. Thank you for sitting in my chair. That was a way better episode because you were here. See y'all next time on a duck call room.