Duck Call Room - Uncle Si & Jase Robertson Are Wowed by Rebecca St. James & for King & Country

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

Uncle Si and Jase Robertson get a chance to sit down with Grammy Award-winning musicians Rebecca St. James and For King & Country to talk about their new movie "Unsung Hero." Si reveals who the unsung... hero of his life is and finds he has more in common with these Aussies than he ever thought. Phillip was moved to tears by the movie and Jase might have found his Aussie twin! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are we doing a 3-2-1? 3-2-1. All right. No holding back. So here's the question. Okay. And the reason I'll tell you. Are we going to do a welcome to the podcast?
Starting point is 00:00:17 Welcome to the podcast. Yeah. Well, okay. Come on. I just want to say. This is an intervention with Jace in the middle. Okay. Welcome to the podcast and we're so excited.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We've got a special guest today. That's right. We've got special guests today. Are you going to introduce them? No, I'm going to let you do that. Okay, here we go. I'm Jace. I'm a guest.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Yeah, welcome, Jace. Great to have you with us. So we have Luke, Joel, and Rebecca. That's right. They are a famous family. I'm not sure what their last name is. Smallbone. Well, I knew that, but it's complicated because her last name is St. James.
Starting point is 00:00:58 It was either she was adopted or we were. There you go. You know? We're not spreading lies yet. We're all. We're all kin. You know, brothers to the same mother and father and sisters, in fact. So part of that humor is part of their new movie, which, do you know the name of the movie, sigh?
Starting point is 00:01:19 No, I don't. It's just to the left. Unsung hero. Oh, there it is. Okay. Oh, I'm in the way. No, you know. One family's journey.
Starting point is 00:01:29 You're not in the way, Jace. You are the way. that's part of the way that's part of the greatest line in that movie in my opinion because sometimes you think my family's in the way and there was a quote saying
Starting point is 00:01:43 it's not your family that's in the way the family is the way that's exactly right that's right that resonates with the Roberts all right it's been a great podcast thanks everyone have a great one now for the question
Starting point is 00:01:54 okay why is Jesus real to y'all you have not seen him okay not visibly not visibly okay you've only read about him or someone told you his story so why do you believe him because in all my travels because the duck dynasty show I had the opportunity to talk to people about Jesus about the father the son the holy spirit and the reason they don't believe okay is he they're not real to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:32 That's good. They hadn't seen him. That's good. I love that question. Yeah. I would love to hear each answer. I got, we'll give you different ones. You guys go ahead and I'll go last because I got something different. Well, I'm as shocked as anybody that's actually asked a question that I understand. It's a great question. It's a great question. Probably the biggest question. Like, why is Jesus real to you? And I love it. And I'm lit up about it. Thank you for asking that. For me, I saw my parents live out their faith. And this movie,
Starting point is 00:03:00 shows it. It wasn't a perfect journey, but I saw my parents struggle through hard times and trust God for things like money, food, a car, furniture in our house, enough money for my sister to be born in a hospital safely. And we prayed about these things and we saw it happen. And I saw my mom come alive in her relationship with Jesus, in worship, in church. I saw this legitimate closeness to God. I saw in church this one very formative time in my life, a very distinct memory of looking up at my mom, seeing her cry, tears streaming down her face in worship in church.
Starting point is 00:03:45 And I said, Mom, what's wrong? Why are you crying? And she said, God's love is so real to me. I'm crying happy tears of joy because I, I know. know how much he loves me, and these are tears of joy. And when a little girl sees that kind of intimacy with Jesus at a young age, and then goes through something like this when we move to America and pray and see our needs meant, see miracles happen, that changes your life. And that gives you something to sing about at 15 when you get signed to a record deal and you go on the
Starting point is 00:04:16 road full time at 16. So I'm thankful to have had that heritage of faith and then to have gone through what this movie represents, because it made my faith come alive. So in my humble opinion, I've got to add this in here before they two. Okay. I was in a band and I'd done the Nashville thing. Okay. Okay. So.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Making news to y'all. Well, no, no, no. Tell them the names. What'd you play? What'd you play, Sine? I don't play nothing. He played crazy. Tell them the name of the band, please.
Starting point is 00:04:46 The name of the band is Uncle Si and the psychotics. Wow. That's pretty clever. We are all crazy. Yeah. We didn't have no idea what we was going. do on stage until we've done it. But anyway, that's why you
Starting point is 00:05:01 didn't say it in a way. But the reason you believe in Jesus is you saw him work. That's right. Yeah. And you saw him work through your mother. Yeah. Through your family. Yeah. That's why I tell people all the time, y'all need to look at this crazy old man known as Uncle Sy.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I am living proof that the father, the son, the Holy Spirit are alive and well. Yep. And doing the most amazing things with the most unlikely person. Yours truly. That's beautiful. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:39 It works. This relationship with him works. If you don't have a relationship with the Father's Son and Holy Spirit, folks, you hadn't got nothing. You're missing out. Yeah, you ain't got nothing. And y'all are living proof of that. that and this movie.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Joel. Tell us, tell us, Joel. We want to hear. Well, I love, Sire that you said, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. So let's go,
Starting point is 00:06:05 let's go Father. I would say, another word for Father would be Creator, Cosmic, Big. Yep. You know, the more technology that we develop, people were worried
Starting point is 00:06:18 that it would disprove the existence of the creator. But the more, the more we, the more we understand creation, the more complex we understand the universe is, the more creative we understand design, body. Science and religion had a great separation 500 years ago,
Starting point is 00:06:37 but they're actually coming back. So, father, look at the science. They're all around you. Son, we've all done a bit of study on the Gospels. We'll take Easter. We just celebrated Easter a little while ago. Someone said, okay, let's talk about Jesus. Let's talk about the resurrection for a second.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Doesn't make sense. These guys wrote these books 40 years after Jesus, quote, unquote, died and resurrected. So Tim Keller, I don't know if you're familiar, he's a great thinker. I'm really familiar. Up in New York, I was listening to Anisa a sermon from him, and he said this. He said, listen, if you're going to write this kind of story and it's a fairy tale, Here are a couple things you don't do as a Jew. One, whenever the Old Testament talks about resurrection, it was always corporate resurrection.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It was never individual. It was always the second coming, all of humanity rises. So the idea that a Jew would go, one guy is going to rise, they're not even thinking about that, number one. Number two, if you're going to have people give credit to this guy rising, it's not going to be women. because women in that time, they're not going to be at the tomb, they're not going to be running, shouting, Jesus is alive, because women had no credibility. So if it's a fairy tale, you're not going to have that. Three, there were a load of messiahs during that time in human history, Jewish messias. And the same thing happened.
Starting point is 00:08:07 They all got killed, all of their followers scattered, and nine out of ten times, except for Jesus Christ, they would build a shrine to their slain savior. And the shrines are still there today. Even when you go to Israel and say, this is where Jesus was buried, no one has any idea where Jesus was buried. Because they didn't build a shrine for him. Because he wasn't there. I'll give you one last one.
Starting point is 00:08:34 He didn't stay there long enough. He didn't stay there very long. I'll give you one last one. So Jesus shows up, new body. They say, well, it was just spiritual. No? Look at my hands. And then he makes this kind of silly statement.
Starting point is 00:08:48 He's like, hey, do you have any boiled fish? If you're writing a story that's not real, are you going to write in that story? Yeah, our guy came back when we didn't believe in individual resurrection. We had a bunch of women who were discredited, say that he rose again. We're going to have no shrine to him. And the first thing he's going to say to us is, can I have some boiled fish? That's why we like it, me and James, because there's going to be fish fries and ever. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And then lastly, bonus round, Holy Spirit, the helper, the convictor. And who's in it? So Jesus sends the Holy Spirit, says, I'm going to, someone greater. You're going to do greater things than I could ever do with this Holy Spirit. I think we stand, this film stands as a testament to the guidance, even in failure, the guidance of the Holy Spirit in our parents' life, in your family's life, in your brother's life. Definitely. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Going from incredibly incredible darkness to light. And that's the great testament of the Holy Spirit to us. So Father's Son, Holy Spirit. All right. Look, springtime is here. It's warming up. You know what that means. That means more outside cooking.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And y'all know we love to eat beef around here. And that's what because of our friends over at Triedale's beef makes such a good product, baby. Ain't it good? It's so good. Our friend, Sao Robertson, would say, buy on the grill. Look, before we got Tritels, getting ready for a cookout, man, somebody had to run the grocery store, do all the things,
Starting point is 00:10:26 grab whatever was left in case you were late in the day. And you never really know where that beef comes from. But with Tritales beef, we skip the grocery store and do it a different way. Tritales comes from a family ranch out in Texas. They're a fifth generation American ranch. So they've been at it for a while. Now, look, the beef comes straight from their ranch. And other ranchers they work with who raise cattle the same way.
Starting point is 00:10:48 their steaks are properly aged and shipped straight from the ranch to your door. We threw a couple of ribbys on the grill. Look, salt, pepper, garlic, hot fire, that's all you need. Look, because I'll tell you what, when the beef comes from people who raise cattle for a living, you can taste the difference. The tenderness and the flavor are fantastic. So if you're stocking the freezer for grilling season, go check out Tritale's beef. I know in size case Christine loves it, which is just a, she doesn't eat meat.
Starting point is 00:11:15 She isn't a big meat either, folks. Yeah. Just go to Tribalienable. beef.com slash that's trybeef.com slash support ranch families and eat some dang good steak. Here's one thing that I was hoping you brought it up. Okay. Because when you say father, he's spiritual. Holy Spirit spiritual. Uh-oh. Now we're talking about the son. Hold it. He's not spiritual. He started out as the word. And then as John. tells us the word was with God and the word was God in the beginning. But then the word done the most
Starting point is 00:11:57 amazing thing. In verse 14, the word became flesh and dealt dwelt among us. Dr. The Bible says, okay, you know, the Bible says, okay, hey look, in Old Testament, he's coming. So I think you should become a believer. Hey, I'm working on it. But anyway, the gospel, he's here. Then the rest of the Bible is saying, hey, guess what? He's coming back. And if you're listening and you hear big bashes, that's size passion, uncle's passion.
Starting point is 00:12:32 He has many nicknames, noise maker is one. Human distraction is another. And when he's playing cards, he's known as the human economic stimulus package. And when I'm singing, I do what the Bible says. Okay. Because hey, when people sit in front of me, I've had little old ladies come up and says, hey, look, the praise team is fixed to sing about four of his favorite songs, and all he's fixing to do is is get louder.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Can you give his a preview? No, I'm not. Chase did it earlier today. I'm only singing to y'all. I actually sang a solo in front of them, which- He did. What did you sing? Shows you that I have no shame.
Starting point is 00:13:18 What did you say? I'm on a shame. We were proud of you. I sang, what did I say? It was a hymn, wasn't it? Oh, hold the gods and changing hand. I just saw, I sang the time is filled with swift transition. I like, hold.
Starting point is 00:13:33 You got a hold two. Oh, you know that one. Yeah, it's a great song. I just want to say, I'm proud of the listeners. We're still being with it. You know what's crazy is Sa and I, I don't know if you know this, but we have an album that went platinum.
Starting point is 00:13:49 What? Yeah. Did y'all not know this? No. Yeah. Now, y'all think I'm lying. No, I don't do your line. What's the name of that hour?
Starting point is 00:13:55 In less than a month, by the way. It went platinum. Don't quote me on that. I told you all in my band. They was asked me about my resume. Wait, were you in his band? No, I didn't see his band. I was.
Starting point is 00:14:06 They was asking about my resume. You know, and I said, oh, I don't, I don't have any really resume May for singing. Yeah. So I got them to the edge of the seat and they're almost about to fall off. So we did a Christmas album together.
Starting point is 00:14:20 It's called, what is it called? Duck Family Christmas. Duck the halls. Duck the halls. Wow. That sounds amazing. So it's strong evidence that there is a God that it went playing. That was going to be my reason.
Starting point is 00:14:32 No, no, because look, when we did it and sang the song, you know, first thing out of Phil's mouth was, hey, y'all ain't put that junk out. And you did. And they said, hey, look, don't worry about it. The guy that was running, he said, don't worry about it. We're going to get it taken care of. And they did. Hey, but Uncle's say,
Starting point is 00:14:51 Did they make it better? Huh? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they finally got us. We need to hear, we need to hear the final word from Luke about your question. That's right. Well, I figured we would get there, but this road. Well, I tell you, when I get excited, I chase rabbits.
Starting point is 00:15:04 With Twins and Chairs Rappets. You're like my dog. Hey. Yeah. My dog chases rabbits, too. You're up, Luke. Oh, I've been called a dog by a lot of people. Not by us.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I do. We old people said, hey, I name my dog after you. Yeah, he didn't mean that. He meant that affectionately. I've gone. Yeah, you are love. Okay. But now, give us your reason why you believe in Jesus.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So these things are all true that they just said, right? All things that I would go, absolutely. So I'm going to go a different route. Yeah. So you remember President. President Richard Nixon. Yes, sir. Watergate scandal.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yep. Right? Yep. Bad news, right? There's a guy named Chuck Colson who worked for him. All right. I don't know if you're familiar. You familiar with Chuck Colson?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Are you kidding? Look, now look, every once in a while something happens in life and you got to say stop. The last picture that I took on my phone. Are you kidding me? Look, I want you to blow that up. This is what I'm about to read. Are you kidding? No way.
Starting point is 00:16:07 That's exactly what I'm about to read. What? I was studying last night. P's in a pod. Hey, we've figured out, Uncle Sy, that Jace and my little brother are basically the same people, just the Australian and the American version.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Two different continents. Just two different continents, same DNA. Oh my goodness, that is crazy. No, we did not make that up. We're literally... I'm going to read along with you in the quote. To prove. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:16:34 One, two, three. I know the resurrection is a fact. All right, I'll let you continue because that may get weird. Here we go. Maybe a duet. You can see it. Maybe it'll go double platinum.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But maybe do you need to share what, Chuck Colson, what happened to him? If he'll read it, then we can discuss because I think it's a... It's a powerful. We'll put this in the show notes as well. This is an unbelievable story. All right. So anyway, Chuck Colson, he was a part of one of Nixon's guys that got caught up in the Watergate Scouts.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Gets in lots of trouble. Eventually gets sent to prison. End up starting a ministry in prison. Amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing man of God. All right. But this is what he says. the resurrection is a fact, and Watergate proved it to me. How? Because 12 men testified they had seen Jesus raised from the dead. Then they proclaimed the truth for 40 years,
Starting point is 00:17:24 never once denying it. Everyone was beaten, tortured, stoned, and put in prison. And killed. They would not have endured that if it weren't true. Watergate embroiled 12 of the most powerful men in the world and they couldn't keep a lie for three weeks. You're telling me 12 apostles could keep a lie for 40 years, absolutely impossible. But not only that, no man would die for a lie. That's right. Knowing it was a lie. I think you need to add that.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Knowing it was a lie. A lot of people die for causes. Yeah. But they all think it's true. For these men to have given their lives, they would have had to know it's a lot. Just think, here they are. We're fixed to kill you.
Starting point is 00:18:13 We're fixed to crucify you if you don't quit saying Jesus is the son of God. Well, if it was a lie, you're like, okay, time out. Yeah. I'm just joking. He was a carpenter. Some stories were told. They would not do that. It is impossible.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I think it's one of the strongest evidence that he was here. I mean, what are you going to do about that? That is an unbelievable argument because it's absolutely true. I mean, you're talking about these guys are, really do. Chuck Colson is one of the, at his time, was one of the smartest men on planet earth. He's written like 30 books and I'm glad you brought up about the prison ministry because here he is, he gets called in something that's, you know, frowned upon. There's lying and all this stuff and somewhere in there he finds the Lord. He goes to prison and in his
Starting point is 00:18:57 moment of weakness in life. Once you're in prison, you tend to clarify. We have a problem here. And he revolutionized the faith-based prison system programs. And his projects, I looked it up after I read that quote. So like today, every person that gets out of prison, two-thirds of them end up back in prison. Well, his programs, the people that went through the programs that he started, way back from the quote that you just read, two-thirds didn't come back. That's the difference. which is why they gave him awards, they gave him medals, because he used that low moment and God used him.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He surrendered to the Lord, and then all of a sudden he revolutionized the prison. Uncle Sai, were our answers sufficient for you? No. Okay, I apologize. Do we need to end it now? No, no. I should have told you.
Starting point is 00:19:55 When Sai says no, that means yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If he says, he's going to say no, he's going to add something. Look, I told y'all I didn't say this before the podcast started. I'm here because I'm the interpreter. Yes. We need to set the record straight.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Jace didn't anticipate being here for this. This morning. No, no. They brought this up and we was going, Watergate and all that. Well, how can I finish my interpretation? Because they're not going to understand you. Now when he says, no, no, when he doubled down on the no, that's really yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:28 But if he says, no, no, hey, that means he agrees with you so much. He's ready to run through a wall for you. We haven't got the do-no hay. No, we'll get there. Because, hey, look, we had Rucker on my podcast, and Rucker is our man in charge of Celebrate Recovery. Yeah. This young man, okay, spent four years in prison.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Okay, and I asked him the same thing I asked y'all. And he said the same thing about, well, hey, relationship with Jesus Christ. Yeah. Okay, but what I'm wanting is, tell you is we talked about freedom. I spent a lot 24 and a half years in the military. And I was in Europe, 12 and a half of that, okay? And I had opportunities to go to the iron curtain and all this and I never did. And I really didn't know why until somebody
Starting point is 00:21:22 you know, you asked me, you know, I said, well, I had a friend of mine asked me to go speak to a man that's incarcerated in Oklahoma in a jail. And when I talked to him, okay, everywhere we went, they unlocked the door, and then when I went through it, they locked it behind me. You know, no. I, my freedom is too precious to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:52 To ever visit a country where someone else locked a iron door behind me. No. So I don't need to go see it. So I want to talk about this movie because, y'all, I work at the children's home for 29 years, be 30 years in December in Rustin, Methodist Children's Home. And we have so many tough cases that we're working with. When I watch the movie, and I'm telling you, I loved it. I came in and told Siles like, Cy, you're going to love this movie.
Starting point is 00:22:21 What a journey. I mean, and your mom, how powerful is she? The glasses have full, and she's going to give God the credit for seeing his hand in your lives. And dad. Amazing. And dad wanted to do it his way, which was served. It sounds familiar. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Wrong answer. Yeah, I've tried it my way. Yeah. So let's try it. Let's try it with Jesus. Yeah. I think this is a good place for y'all to tell us your overall thoughts about the movie. Because I want to get it in or we may never get it in.
Starting point is 00:22:58 What are they talking about? I got a question before you go. Before y'all go into that. So Joel, you wanted to, no, Luke wanted to sing a song. about his dad, and then Joel was like, no, let's sing, I want to write a song about mom, the unsung hero. Yeah. And the song is out now.
Starting point is 00:23:17 You can download it on iTunes. You can pre-order the soundtrack to the movie. What a song. I told us I was going to ask y'all if you would sing just a little bit of that song, if you felt like he could do it. Like just a snippet. Here's the reason why. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm a mama's boy. Yes. Okay. And my mama, according to the rest of the family was mentally ill. We laugh. Except for you or including you.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Except for me. Fascinating. I just think she got tired of daddy and the kids and said, hey, I'm fixed to take a vacation. And all I had to do is act goofy and my husband will put me in the nut house. No, she actually was
Starting point is 00:24:00 but in, and I believe the Lord healed her, because he did. The last, what, 15 years of her life? They found a medication that helped Yeah. But she did. And she, you know, I experienced that because my grandparents lived right beside my parents. And so they kind of raised it.
Starting point is 00:24:17 She thought she was crazy because the kids were shooting 22 rifle. So she said, give it to me kids. And they had a bunch of Christmas lights hanging in the yard. And she just goes, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta. And she had all the Christmas lights out. Yeah. Well, it's time for her to go to the nut house again. No, she was crazy, sigh.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Y'all and I give her a big hug, say, enjoy your vacation, mom. So you were your mama's favorite, right? So I found a theme first for your podcast. I've often searched the scriptures, but now after hearing your question and hearing this, this, you need to remember this. This is Sacred Corinthians 5 and verse that I don't have my glasses on. 13. Just the first part.
Starting point is 00:25:03 If we are out of our mind, it is for the sake of God. Bam, boys. And you see that. Sorry, it appears you come from a really holy family. Hey, I rest my case. There you go. So that was fun. So the movie.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Joe, I want to know. Tell me about the movie. What do you guys want to know? And I also want to know about you playing the lead role. How difficult was it? How did you pull it off? Well, thank you. Hey, we were 24 minutes into the.
Starting point is 00:25:38 this, but we didn't say thank you for having us. Yeah. No, thank you. We're with Sadie, Lerner, Jay, who we did this morning. Hey, hey, hey, no, no, no, no, hey. No, no, hey. Thank you. I feel a song coming up in the future called
Starting point is 00:25:52 No, no, no. Hey, no, no. That was the one that went double platinum. With Uncle Sy. That actually did. I know you all were shocked about that. But some members of my family can actually sing. The rest of us are entertainers.
Starting point is 00:26:05 If you get the right producer, which Buddy Cannon is a world-class producer, somehow another between that and the grace of God, it actually worked. I'll check it out this Christmas. We need to check this out. It's fun. So Unsung Hero, you are right?
Starting point is 00:26:22 We wrote a song years ago, a pair of years ago called Unsung Hero. Simultaneously, we were developing a feature film. We're musicians by trade, but we have dubbed ourselves movie makers somewhere along the way. It's a story, it's a 90s story. It's a true story about a mom or a mom, as you say.
Starting point is 00:26:46 How do you say it, Cy? Mom. Mom. Well, he usually just says ma'all. Ma and pa. About a ma' and pa. Her husband had lost everything in Australia. And in the chase of a dream, moved continents with six kids, 16 suitcase.
Starting point is 00:27:04 mom was six months pregnant. They get to the United States and the job opportunity falls through and they are left in a furnitureless house without any insurance without any way to get home and have to band together to make ends meet, rake leaves, mow lawns. And no vehicle. And no vehicle and just saw extraordinary things happen, miracles. And so it's ultimately our parents' story. And it's our sister, Rebecca and James it chronicles her journey into music and through music, us sort of finding our way out of that time of poverty and banding together as a family, not unlike another family in Louisiana that I know. The similarities were scary. Banding together as a family. And that was 30 years ago. And we're still
Starting point is 00:27:59 at it today. Wow. So it's a story about mums, the story about music, is a story about miracles, the story about family and community and the church banding together and we're really proud to present it to you. And as you mentioned, I play out dad in the film, which I've dubbed a very expensive therapy session. Absolutely incredible. Thank you. So I had to look up. What an honor. Yeah, he played his dad. Yeah, it was an honor side.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You were right. Really? Spot on. Spot on. And kept it together. You know, your dad's a human being. Right. Okay, but to play him and then to see the result. And you know what, Say you, I was so, I have to confess,
Starting point is 00:28:42 because Jay's confessed a few things on our podcast earlier today. I have to confess that I've been really lazy with my, our parents' story. Because Luke and I, Rebecca was 14, but we were five and seven when we moved to the state. So we were very young. And we only saw it through the eyes of a child. It's the great adventure and was fun and cricket in the house and raking leaves and helping the family and traveling with Rebecca. When I co-wrote the film and then dropped into sort of dad's shoes, if you will, literally, and his jacket, his literal jacket, playing him. I'm roughly his age now when he moved.
Starting point is 00:29:17 The stress and the strain and the struggle, I got to experience it not from a child looking up at a dad, but as a father figure looking down at children and across from his wife. And my empathy for him as a man and as a husband, as a father, as a man of God, from that day to this, is shifted dramatically. This is so weird. You talk about it and I went back to my child of it. I'm serious. I did too.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Because I didn't have to worry about nothing. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't, you know, we was dirt poor. Okay, but in my eyes, that was the greatest time in my life. Yeah. We was a family. God loved us.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We had everything we needed. God loved us and mom loved, dad loved us. Yeah. So we're poor snakes. We didn't have enough sense to know it. No, I'm serious. You were being protected, side. Well, hey, I didn't have to worry about nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. It was an adventure. And I loved how your mom, Helen, how she role played with you guys. When things got tough, she's so creative. She started role playing and doing things with you guys and y'all are all involved, getting each other involved. It was incredible. And I'm going to tell you what, it helped me, me and my wife, Alicia.
Starting point is 00:30:41 We were watching the movie. And, I mean, so many times I'm an emotional person. He makes me emotional. He's a wreck. And we hang out together for the past 20 years. I don't know, I'm as assistant, Slash best friend and his kids, and I mean the kids down there that he works with.
Starting point is 00:31:00 You know, they drive him nuts trying to take care of them. Well, when he's with me, he gets a break from all of them. Thank you, Saar for my break. Yeah. But when I saw, when I saw the strength of your mother
Starting point is 00:31:14 and I keep bringing it up, you know, it made me think about my own life and my own mother, you know, and I haven't thought about it. that in a long time but when I watched this movie I just felt it and me and my wife were holding hands watched the movie and we're crying you're gonna feel every every emotion when you watch this movie I mean it's gonna be times where you're like Rocky saying get up I mean this is good you're gonna love it but I and I want to
Starting point is 00:31:39 tell my mom is that the camera that's filming so my mom says that she's your biggest fans but after watching this show and I know my mom is watching mom I'm your biggest fan. I'm thankful for what you did in my life. So, you got to watch the movie. So you got to watch this. Oh, side. Yeah, because I'm already
Starting point is 00:31:58 know I'm going to cry. Oh, yeah. Well, look. I actually cried. So the only trouble is you probably can't watch the movie unless we do subtitles because we talk Australian. You wouldn't understand us.
Starting point is 00:32:07 That's true. Hey, that's one thing that's amazing. Your accent is gone. Oh, it's gone. Yeah, right? In the movie, it's back, though. It's strong in the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 He puts on an Aussie accent. I've met, Keith, Keith. Urban, yeah. Oh, yeah, good-day, mate. How you going? And he sings, and he asks it. It's gone. That's right.
Starting point is 00:32:28 When he sings, it's gone. That's what you realize. When you have an accent, if you sing, it's actually the tone in which gives you your accent. And the pitch. And so when that goes away, when you sing a song, you can't tell what someone's from. If it's in English, is what it is. Piggybacking, though, on what you were saying about moms. And I love that tribute that you've made to your mom.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And really, the movie in a lot of ways is a tribute to our mom. mom, but this is coming out right before Mother's Day. And it's an opportunity for people to take their moms to the theater and celebrate their moms and look them in the eye and say, mom, you did so much for me growing up. Thank you for being an unsung hero in my life. Thank you for all that you poured in. And no mom is perfect, but you can still honor them for all the good that they did, because every mom does a lot of beautiful things for their children. Alabama had a song about they sing it and says, well, that's close enough to perfect for me. moms.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Yeah. That's close enough for me. And I would say this, you know, this film, you know, it's called Unsung Hero. And I think for every mother, I love what you guys were saying, because every mother at times feels like what they're doing is of no consequence. It doesn't feel significant. I think most people think in the household is like, hey, if I've got a podcast or if I'm up on stage, well, then I'm worthwhile.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Or then I'm actually doing something that's significant. The truth is, I think every single one of us is having this conversation because there were people that did unsung things. things, things that no one could see that poured into us that matter that taught us character, that taught us perseverance, that taught us how to overcome struggle. And if it's not for our mothers, if it's not for our fathers, uncles, aunties, whoever that is in your life, we don't get to do these things. My brother, Phil, when he does it, I love it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 When he preaches sometimes, he said, hey, look, y'all think you've got to do something great. He said, no, you don't have to do that. He said, in your daily life, being kind to a neighbor. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Or just you show up and you're always positive. You're never negative.
Starting point is 00:34:36 You don't know how far that God takes that. Yeah. It's true. Just one little thing that you show somebody, you don't help somebody. I heard a story about someone that was a friend of ours in Australia. And this friend was sad because they just heard about, that one of their dear friends had passed away. And he was like, man, this person was so dear to me
Starting point is 00:34:58 because it was always so upbeat and so kind and Jesus loving to the local community. And he said, so I went to her funeral. And he said, the thing that astounded me of any funeral I have ever been to, this person was a normal person coming and going, grocery store, taking care of family, grandkids, whatever, seemingly not doing anything extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:35:19 He said there was about 1,500 people. people at this person's funeral. And all she ever did was love people. All she ever did was show people kindness. She changed her community because she was obedient in her comings and her goings. I was going to say I preached a sermon at the church where my parents go years ago. And the title of it was unsung heroes, which is why when I saw the title, I thought, I did a sermon about that.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And what's- We heard it, we stole it. Yeah. What's ironic is, uh, you know the whole thing i eventually got to how jesus makes you better he is our ultimate hero and and was god's choice of doing that but the three people i chose to express that uh there was a widow lady and my wife and i have always for years we would pick out a widow lady and just own that relationship we pursued her we'd get to know them you know unfortunately they they're usually old they usually died
Starting point is 00:36:18 and then we would pick another one of course it was you know they became part of our family. So one of the women I chose was this old woman who lived not too far from here. And we got to know her and she just would come by herself on a bus that they picked her up. The more I got to know her, I realized that she was a warrior in her community helping multiple kids and all of the dysfunction we see in families. And there she was pouring Jesus into people. Of course, I picked my wife and I picked my mom because it went back to our story which was a similar story if my mom doesn't forgive my dad which no rational thinking person would ever encourage her to do that because my dad was that bad if she hadn't had done that and chose to be the glue for our family well we we would have
Starting point is 00:37:08 never stayed together none of all what you see would have happened yeah i mean even philip this is this is crazy because we should have introduced philip a little bit so about 400 yards from where we're sitting right here. How many years ago? 33? 33 years ago, I had just shared Jesus with my best friend from high school, and he had responded. It took him a year, but it was a process. And so we were going to a Bible study, because I'm like, you know, you've got to grow in the faith, grow in the Lord. So we were on our way from my parents' house to the Bible study,
Starting point is 00:37:46 and there was a sports car parked on the side of the road. And my best friend, his name is Blake. He said, hey, I know that guy. Let's invite him. So we pulled in there, and it was Philip McMillan. And he said, what are you all doing? He didn't know me. Well, I knew you from high school, but I didn't know you.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Yeah, we didn't like you, how about that? Yeah, we didn't get along because we ran in different circles, and I thought you were too good to, you know. This is a random question, but you remember what month it was? Well, he may remember what month was. December. So we would have been, that's our first. Christmas in America.
Starting point is 00:38:22 This movie was happening at that point. Now, this is getting weird. That was three months after we moved. So isn't that crazy? And I was fixed to get married or had just gotten married. Yeah, I guess I'd just gotten married because he came the week of our wedding. And so he said, hey, we're going over to this guy's house. And you said, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:38:42 He said, it's a party. He told you it was a party. Yeah, he did. And so he followed us over there. And so when we got there, he broke it to him. He said, it's actually a Bible study. And Philip said, well, just don't put me on the spot or anything. And so as soon as we walked in, I said, come over here and sit beside me.
Starting point is 00:39:00 And I shared Jesus with him right there. And you gave your life right there? Yes, me. And then the next day, my girlfriend, and now we've been married for 33 years. Wow. So when Saim moves back from the military, you know, I have a Bible group at my house during this time. And Jace and all of his brothers are there. and they told me how crazy he is
Starting point is 00:39:20 and they're like, oh, we've got all these stories. So you've always been this crazy uncle, Uncle, sir. Yes. Yeah, he's certifiably crazy, but not in a creepy way, so it's good. So they told me. The dog way's in a fun way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Because if I can't have fun, I ain't coming. They told me that he couldn't hear, so I had to talk real loud, and that's true now, 20-something years later. And they told me, he read lips, so look, he's running away from me, and I'm grabbing him and turning around. It was the funniest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:39:47 we did a prank we told philip that sigh was death and so so we're screaming at each other y'all until finally they couldn't hold in there all bust out laughing and he said he said can you hear i said yeah i said you really lived he said no and we've been together ever since so yeah but he came to the lord and then three or four days later his girlfriend showed up uh at our apartment by herself and she had a Bible in her hand, tears streaming down her face. And so I'd realize what happened. They had studied, and she's like, I can't get around this. And it was a beautiful story.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And they've been, you know, some of our best friends ever since. So it's kind of, that's crazy. That's the backdrop of when y'all moved here. So the Lord was definitely stirring. That's right. In 91. 91. So how long has this movie been out?
Starting point is 00:40:43 It hasn't even been out yet. April 26. April. Oh, well, hey, don't worry about it. It's going to do fine. Look, and you can remember it by this. Oh, I'm serious. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Si, it's one day before your birthday. It gives you good incentive to stay alive. Oh. Yeah. Oh, son, hey, I'm going to stay alive. I'm going to make it a hundred years old. I ain't leaving this baby till I'm a hundred. Hondo.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And then when I get to heaven, I'm going to say, Jesus, can I take about a year off and I want to go see the rest of your creation? Hey, that's the first time I'm asking the Lord. I want to take off for about a year and go see all of what you create. Can I come? If you make it. See, I don't know that for sure. That's why we have a combustible.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I wish you. Okay. Hey, so day before your birthday is our parents' 49th wedding anniversary. Well, I didn't know this, but they're actually throwing your birthday party and you're going to the theaters to see this movie Unsung Hero. Can you believe that?
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, we're in. That afternoon, you're going to go to the theaters. I'm going to wait then. Yeah, wait. I'm going to wait. We'll go together. It's better on the big screen anyway.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm going to know. I'm not about crap. Is your mom and dad still alive? Yeah, yeah. That was actually one of the reasons why we wanted to make this movie now is because. Well, y'all need to bring them up here.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Oh, we will. Can you imagine my dad and Uncle Sy? We've already said this. Dad needs to meet you, Uncle, Uncle Sy. At this point, my dad needs to meet you. No, I'm sure. You guys might like jinx each other out or something. And look, I'll need to come up here, you know, quite often.
Starting point is 00:42:24 We'll come down here. Because I'm telling you right now, I've met three new friends. Mm-hmm. You have. Okay, and I want y'all to come back to see us. We will. I feel the knee for an interpretation here. Be careful what you wish for.
Starting point is 00:42:39 We would love to come back. I'll say. No, no, I'm sure. Yeah. Don't worry about the movie. Okay. Okay. We don't need a reason. You don't need a reason to come back.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Y'all got the one person involved in it. And it's going to be a smash. Yeah. Because you gave up the Uncle Sy's seal of approval, right? Oh, all right. Well, Uncle, you got the creators. Speaking of the creators and Uncle Sy's approval, can I give a final pitch for the movie?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Please. You can. On behalf of us, a daughter and sons of the Unsung Hero herself. And three musicians, the interesting thing, you know, this you have a Platman record. So the interesting thing about music is you have a load of time, you have years to promote a album and a project. But with theater, movies that go into theaters, you have really that first week to show the movie theaters that people are going to come. and so the 26th, the 27th, the 28th, those are, those are monumental days. So on the 27th, on your birthday, we encourage it to come out.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And for those that can, we've dubbed that weekend Family Day. You've got Mother's Day in a few weeks after. You've got Father's Day, but America needs a good old-fashioned family day at the theatre. So we'd love to see you. And I think it's important to note, too, we're in a day and age where people need. encouragement and they need positive things, positive movies that are wholesome and encouraging and uplifting. And if we want to see more of this content, we have to show up
Starting point is 00:44:22 on these important days, especially that first weekend when a movie breaks out like this. I mean, you guys know that with the blind. It's important that people show up and support it like they did. But if you want to see more of this content, just support Christian films because it perpetuates itself. When Hollywood sees something, have traction across the U.S., across the world, it makes a difference and there can be more of this content. And Zach has more. Zach has more films in working in production and we have more films.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And so it does feel like this beautiful day and age where this sort of content can reach out, not into America, but to the world. We are very familiar with that. I actually remember one of the producers of our little duck show one time actually said, you know, I don't like you. but I love that people watch you. And I said, thank you. But was he saying because it was wholesome?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah. I think we were having an argument because we got to be ourselves on our show, which was awesome. And sometimes for humor purposes, they would come up with an idea. And the idea that they gave me was a dirty joke. And I said, I would never do that.
Starting point is 00:45:39 and he kind of pushed back. And he's like, yeah, but the world thinks that's funny. And I was like, I'm not worried about the world. I'm worried about the Lord. I get my character from the Lord. Why do you need to be funny like that when you got Uncle Sy? Yeah. No, no.
Starting point is 00:45:53 That's what I thought. I thought just if you want to turn the camera that way. Yeah, just, which is what they learned after a while. They would try to get side of do stuff. No, no, yeah. And they finally realize that all you have to do is actually turn it on. You're funny. too, Jason. Both of you
Starting point is 00:46:11 are mainly. If I'm funny, it was an accident. We was filming seven days a week. Okay, so we was actually filming on Sunday. So Saturday, we filmed in like 12, 14 hours. And they kept re-wording something they wanted me to say. And I told them no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Well, I was real tired. But that time he meant no. It wasn't a yes. It was like, no, no, no. But you got to understand what's going on. He wants to know, he was no. But look, I said it. Y'all, and then I left, then I went home. That was Saturday night. Sunday morning I come to church.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Al's preaching a sermon, and he's preaching, and every time he says something, I think he's pointing at me, because I said what I shouldn't have said. So I had to film back right after church. So I go in, I yell out, I say, hey, where's the director? And I said, why? I said, because I got a bone to pick with him.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Get him. And I said, hold, hold, hold. So he comes walking in. He's waving, what's the matter? I said, you kept pushing me last night when we was family. And I said, and I knew I shouldn't have said it when I said it, but I did. I said, now here's the deal. I said, if that hits the TV screen, I said, I'm done with the Duck Dynasty.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You know, and the guy said, whoa, whoa, whoa, settle down. I said, dog. I said, look, I don't know you very good. I said, but I'm a man of my word. I said, if that junk hits the TV screen, I said, I'm done. And he said, whoa, whoa, whoa, settle down, settle down. And he said, oh, I'll give you my word. I said, well, I don't know if your word's any good or not.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I said, but hey, you better ask. I said, because if it hits the screen, this kid is gone. And it didn't hit the screen, right? It didn't hit the screen. But I will say one thing to Cy's credit on the first day of filming, he said something that I believe the same thing is happening with this movie. So he asked for the director. All of us were apologizing for Cy because they didn't know him at that moment at all because we thought, why does he want to see the director? So the director comes out.
Starting point is 00:48:31 We called him the showrunner. And he says, yes, what you got? He said, hey, you're not directing this. And so he started looking around. Awkward pauls. Awkwardly. And we're like, we try to tell you he was crazy. But then, I said something very profound that became our mantra
Starting point is 00:48:46 throughout that whole entire series. He said, God Almighty is directing this. It was a very good line, son. It was top 10. Yo, Phil, when they come down to say, okay, we're going to shoot two pilots. Yo, Phil said, wait a minute, let me get just right. You've got a family here that we're known for. one thing.
Starting point is 00:49:09 We call ducks in and then we kill them as close as we possibly can. But that ain't what y'all going to have the movie about. Y'all going to do something else. And Phil said, it'll never work. And then they all go and say,
Starting point is 00:49:24 what you mean? He said, unless he reaches under his recliner and pulls out the Bible and says, unless the Almighty's involved with it. Well, evidently he must have been. And evidently he would. So the Almighty is behind this movie. I'm telling you, it's so good, it's so powerful.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Anybody that watches it, you're going to love it. Jace, I'm so fired up about this movie. Go watch the movie and thanks for being. Now, before we end this. We just ended it. No, we hadn't. I want to hear a snippet. I want to hear them sing on song hero.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Oh, just a snippet. Just a snippet. I'm not even sure they can legally do that. I'm taking these off because I want to hear the voices. You know, the sad thing about that song is we don't sing very often on it. Do you want to sing the second chorus? Yeah. And we can sing the bridge together.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Strong like your father. That's the key. Strong like your father. Even when you were scared. When I was in trouble, you never left me there. And you love like your mother, like there's nothing to lose. You're an on-song hero And I sing this all for you
Starting point is 00:50:42 That'll do Wow You're gonna have to come to a concert On this world This world

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