Duck Call Room - Willie & Jase Find Joy in Tough Times with Phil & Miss Kay’s Health Struggles

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Willie and Jase band together to give Uncle Si and the boys a detailed update on the health journey of Phil & Miss Kay. Willie and Jase admit to teaming up against their other brothers Al and Jep for a good cop/bad cop routine when it comes to helping Phil and Kay make tough choices, and Si can’t help but remember the later days of his own parents’ health issues. Martin and John-David are glad to hear that Willie’s comedy still gets laughs from Phil and Kay, even on the hard days. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We got nine Oh you got it then I was kind of wondering Welcome to episode 430 Is that where you have? I have no idea Damn, that's amazing 424

424 hadn't had a plan yet Congratulations Last heart Last heart yeah they'd screw it up wouldn't you I screw the whole ball up yeah don't overthink don't throw no ranges into machinery

it's best you good hunter I bought fill some sweat that again we'll see good purchase I'm so nervous I've got out of order let's not get into

it's not to get into the details of that I think so yeah that'd be we won't be talking about that in the buying sweat paint Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to get more sweat down. It's a way easier. Are we talking about feeling good?

Yeah, I think that's the whole reason we're here. I was just going to follow your lead. I didn't know how. Which meant we're on. I'll kick it off to y'all ready. Kick it off, son. All right, welcome, welcome to the podcast, folks. Okay, thank you.

Thank you, sir. We've got guests. Yeah. We've got William Robertson and Jason Robertson here today. Hard to believe it. It only took 424 of them to get them here together. That's it. But anyway, my first question is, since I don't get out much, how's Phil doing?

Wow, this is jump right to it. I don't get to see me anymore. When people ask me, y'all, everybody said, hey, okay, we're praying for Phil. And I said, hey, I appreciate that. Anytime anyone mentions the Robertson names to the Almighty, I'm appreciative of it. Yeah. I said, but hey, here, you got to understand. Uncle Si, 76 years.

My brother is two years older. He's 78. Okay. And with age comes a lot of junk that you really don't want. But it's just, that's life. Yeah, that's life. Okay, so mainly that's all I'm telling him. When you ask me about, you know, how's my brother, he's doing pretty good.

He's had better days. Okay. But we're at that age in our life that there's difficulties arise. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. And like, yo, especially for, yo, like y'all right now, okay, the kids. Yeah.

Yo, it's one thing to grow up with your father and watching him do everything and everything else and be the man he once was. Well, it's rough on people to watch someone that they love. go start going down. Yeah. Yeah, that's very difficult. Okay, and look, that's where the Robertson family's at right now. Okay, we're getting old. Okay, and all we got in front of us is, okay, is the grave.

Yeah. And I mean, that's just, that's life. Or the resurrection. Well, no, no, that's why it don't bother me. I try to stay positive. Well, no, no, that's why it doesn't bother me. Okay. I know I'm going to die one day, but hey, guess what?

I know the man that doesn't promise. me, hey, don't worry about it, dude, I'm going to raise you up before you get ready. Exactly. Okay. So, hey, I'm not, yo, death is nothing but a transfer of where I'm going to be living. Change your address, boys. Change your address, boys, baby. Change your address, boys.

Well, I actually, speaking of this, but I want to, I'm going to bring up Phil and Kay. But someone, a news organization, I need to ask you this, for real, a news organization. and ask would you do an interview, basically, you know, way out ahead of time. So when you pass away, they want to do a story. Oh, they want to have that to run? To watch. I was going to ask, did you want to interview with this news thing?

It'll be when you die. It won't air to after these days. Yes. But they said it's literally a 10 year, like, because people. Like sometimes people outlived the person who enter, you know, stuff happens. What's wrong with these people? I got this request. I did.

This is a legit request. Hey, you need to go back with them and tell me. Hey, what have, you know, how much we talk about it? You're going to charge a media company.

You're dead. You're dead. You're dead. You're gone. That's what you call life insurance. The thing is, do you want to influence the article or not? Like, would you like to tell them personally what they're going to write.

Of course I would. Only if you're paid for it. Well, technically what do you turn into me? Hey, I don't do nothing anymore unless I get paid for it. I was going to ask you. What are we going to do with the money? Because then you'll have to leave. I'll tell you what.

He's going to lose it to you in a poker game. What is going to do? You could leave the money to me and I'll spend it in your honor because you're going to be debt. There's nothing to spend money on. I love you anyway. I'm going to say it. I still love you.

He means to tell him it to spend my money. You should take all the money and then play poker like he does. That's what I would do. Which is blowing it. Yeah, which is every combination. As long as he sees two cards, he's in. Hey, I hadn't got one vise and that's play poker. Yeah.

Okay, I made this money. So, hey, guess what? Right. I'm going to do what I want to with it. I've appreciated it. You're acting like it's so bleak. You could learn how to play poker better. I know because you don't get it.

much. You couldn't learn how to play poker better. I don't say, you actually don't play poker. You just play. Bingo. Yeah, just. Gambling. Bingo.

Maybe I'll hit, maybe I won't, but I'll be there at the end every time. He thinks he's a Robin Hood. He thinks he's a great kid. Thank him from the rich and give him to the board. So I'm not a gambler. We'll say that. I follow Jesus. We'll say that.

Oh, boy. And he said he's not a gambler because he don't never lose. No, I'm just saying. That's a bunch of bull. Lonely. Like Jesus, I take charitable donations and use them for good causes. I will say, though, one of the biggest accomplishments of my life ever, and I've done a few things was I got him to lay down aces because I, and I bluffed you and you followed it aces.

That's part of his game. All things are possible. That's like my top ten things I've ever done in my life. Yeah, but you can't draw it. It's right around like children and grandchildren. Yeah, he's got. I got side of lay down aces on the river. on a bluff.

Mission accomplished. Life. Retire. Okay. So Phil is, yeah, he has some good days and some days I'm like,

oh, wow. And then some days he's a little off. But yeah, we're just trying to, my latest is I'm trying to introduce sweatpants to Phil where he can wear sweatpants. I think it'll be easier.

The whole belt and all that's like. So I wear sweatpants. So I just purchase, yeah, he needs stretchy pads. The problem is when you introduce concepts like this, like you did yesterday, he looks over at me. I don't wear sweatpants. So. Well, are you the fashion model for my, or you're not?

No, to get back to your original, what's happened in our family and this was not a plan. You know, both of my parents are struggling. Like, you know, Phil just had a back procedure, I think is his sixth one in like a year. And Kay had another fall, which she falls a lot, and it was a substantial injury that she's doing pretty well. Shocking. Yeah.

I mean, because when, you know, the people that are around them 24-7, because we obviously can't be there at all time, sent me a very graphic picture right when she cut her leg. And it was a horror show. It was severe. I was actually speaking. I was fixed to get up on stage, and I'd see this picture of my mom.

I was like, oh, man. I was like, get her to the hospital. I got to speak. But so somehow and other, Willie and I got deemed the undeclared representatives of the family because there's a Robertson trait, which is stubbornness that we all have. You guys?

Certain degrees, different degrees of it, boys. And mentally, neither one of them are where they once were at, at each day. You're actually the nicer one because we had to go out yesterday. So it's like good cop, bad cop. I'm always the bad cop. And Chase is like the good cop. And so, no, I've actually thought about this.

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and eat some dang good steak. This is nothing that all families across the world are not going through, you know, when you're... Everybody. It comes to everybody. So what happens basically is you're trying to get two people who struggle with thinking rationally. You have two rational members of the family that are trying to resolve a conflict, which is something they don't want to do because they're not thinking rational.

And so we go out there and it is a good cop, bad cop, in that setting. But then as soon as we both leave, my other two brothers, then they become the good cop because my mom will call. them and say how me and Willie were terrible. They're not letting them, they're not letting me do what I want to do. So it's actually all kind of relative, everybody becomes a bad cop except the two other brothers who don't challenge or confront them. That's why I said somehow we got declared as the spokesman for the rational behavior. Yeah.

That kind of tracks. But know this, this is for both of y'all. this that deep down when they're alone they no one likes to give up their independence okay and now they have to okay but they know they know that y'all are doing the best y'all can do for what are yeah i think you're right they know that even like even though yesterday took an hour now they go Make a little kicking and screaming, but deep down in their heart and mind, they know. I think you're right. I think that comes out.

They do. But it's just the struggle is quite stressful. Ain't none of y'all ever been known for saying a blanket yes to anything. So I mean, insane. Well, so it got out that they had moved and all, and, you know, news outlets get the stories. How did they get out? I think Al actually mentioned it. I thought it was you.

See, here we go. Good cop, bad cop. But the fact was they both had just gotten out of the hospital. So we're like. So they did move. Well, no, I'm saying from the hospital back home. They were. We just have some other.

We have some other places that they can be that's a lot. That's closer. We move around. Because they're not, if neither one of them can get up and walk or care for themselves, they need 24-7 supervision. Although Kay is, she's walking. I mean, I was there when the night you got the pit, picture. So I went out there when she got from the hospital. And so I thought it's, it's 3.30 in the

morning. So I'm thinking I'm going to have to carry Kay. Kay jumps out of that car with her little walker. And just, I'm like, oh, this was not what I was expecting at 3.30 at the morning with some stitches. Borderline, if you had seen the injury, you would have felt that it was a miracle. Then she plops in a chair and it was finally 5 a. She is just talking my face off. I said, Mom, I've got to go to bed. I haven't done the all-nighter in a while. You're in it.

And so she says, well, make sure you come cook those hamburgers for lunch. And she calls me at 9-30s like, what time you're cooking those hamburgers? And they eat like on a cruise schedule. So it's always the weirdest tight, you know, she's kind of like, I'm starving. I'm starving. That was why we had to go to a temporary, you know, place where they could be where, because the bottom line is they're kind of spoiled about food. Oh, yeah.

And we're trying to get some weight. That's the one thing, Phil, you know, Phil has changed on a lot of things, but that. And he won't eat leftovers. I'm like, who doesn't eat leftovers? Once he eats it once, he goes, no, I ain't eat. Because what happens is and fills this world. Well, in Phil's mind, though, every day is literally a new day. So if anything goes into the refrigerator, once he wakes up,

he does not remember when that went in there. So therefore, everything is excluded. So you might as well save a step, feed the dogs after you eat, because he's not going in that refrigerator. and it probably one time he got a hold to something that was bad or so it's psychological. Remember he got that, when he got the food poisoning, how many times that we heard that story in college. Yeah, I think it was at his graduation.

Yeah, I think it was at his potato salad. Man, we'll not eat potato salad because of what happened in 1966. I think it was his high school graduation or something. Everybody got sick. So then when he got to college, he wouldn't go to his graduation, which then influenced me. because I didn't go to my high school graduation. You didn't go to your high school graduates?

We're not dig on stuff like that. Well, my dad said, hey, stay away from that. Yeah, no, no. Because of the potato salad. Exactly. See, the logic. We're not big on that. Okay.

I actually got my diploma like 12 years later. I was just driving by my old high school. You know what? You know what? It's time. Yeah, I need to pick that up. And so I pulled in. I'm 30 now.

I pulled into the West Monroe little administration, and I said, I'm Jase Robertson on record it'll be Jason but I graduated here about 12 years ago I was just wondering do you have that diploma here

and they did? What really made me feel good about it is they went in there and they had a little stack of them and I said oh other people have done this they scrolled through there and hand it to me

and I said well I'm proud and so I kind of have my walk of what they call it walk of fame out the door got my truck I threw it in a box somewhere at home.

I didn't know what today was going to hold. I didn't either. I knew I wasn't going to miss it either. Basically, they're kind of like kids. It's basically you turn back into children. My mom's driving me crazy, which is why I was glad you can't because she was making me. She's like a 12-year-old girl. Yeah, it's like my girl.

She can't drive. Yesterday. Yesterday was difficult. She's wanting to do stuff. She cannot do that I'm like, you can't do that. You can't do this, you know, because she's. injured and I'm like you have to rest and so she's always trying to

sneak around me and get you know get this stuff down so that's why she calls Jeff the dad yeah it's like I'm the dad and she's a child but but I will I got to say that because this is funny and I actually through this whole process I have talked to all my children

and my wife and I have said look when and if this happens to me I'm telling you 100% free reign make all the jokes you want to make and in fact I'm going to write some too that I'm going to add to the mix and so because the humor to me

is so we're at this series do I get that same permission oh yeah I'm telling us Willie's point yesterday we talked about an hour and it was it was a difficult conversation but then once they relented mainly K

well then we laugh well actually I was laughing first you weren't laughing at first but I was like it was funny so we're in this series part and Phil like puts his hand like hey I got something to say here so I'm not like what's Phil

you know Phil's gonna bring this to the I mean weird as serious conversation Phil goes hey can you slide in a rump roast every now and again and I started laughing that was funny and I said did you just say

a rump roast it goes I can't eat this stuff I got to have a rum rose and I'm just falling off the chair laughing because Phil wanted to dagum Ropros. Yeah, I wasn't laughing at first because I was still

I was still stressed out about the conversation that I had this. So then I realized, oh, I'm Ed McMahon here, so I, we're laughing now. Everyone's laughing. We're all laughing. It was the funniest thing I remember. Well, which then got in

because it's like, well, my dad hadn't spoken in quite a while during this conversation. because Willie and my mom were going at it. And so then, but Phil, it leads then to the rankings. He had a ranking system. He didn't have it written down anywhere in his mind. He's like, all these people have been bringing us food. Let me just go ahead and give you the top three.

I'm not going to name them because all the people that have brought through, which was very nice and were very appreciative. But guess what? you didn't make the cut. But I was surprised because one of the last people that I thought would be on the good list was my wife. Yeah, she made the list. She was in the top. He was on the good.

Yeah, she was on the good list. So anyone was steak. Y'all had to be two out of the three. So. Like your family and your family had to be two out of the three. That is true. But you got to realize. I cooked him a hamburger there day and he said, that's the best meal I've had in two years.

Well, and that's why we laugh because it's like he also said later, he's like, you know, would it be too much to ask to throw the old man a steak? He said, I had... The whole conversation was mostly him saying he wanted to steak. Oh, wow. Any sort of meat, and particularly a rump roast. Well, what's funny is he said, I hadn't had a steak in two years. Everything's two years, you know.

Everything's two years. Willie said, well, I brought you one last Sunday. Yeah, I was like within this week. He goes, yep, that's the first one I had to you. Which led me to calling Missy saying, get those steaks out of the phrase. Oh, yeah, there we had. He's like, I'll cook you a steak right now, and he's like, he's like, are you listening?

I put my hands in there. He just kept putting his hand, like, let's go. And so I literally, Jay's brought the steak. Marking out, right. I went and got some steak. Will he cooked them so they were happy. He ate about half of it too. They didn't see me in the picture.

And he ate about half the steak. I'm like, dad, gumming, I sent that steak out there. And a bay potato. But that was kind of a peace offering to getting them to realize that they need to stay a little closer for a little longer. So they haven't actually moved, but we had to make a lot of promises. I mean, it's like, because they were worried about their stuff. They're like, well, if we're not there, someone may break in. So then we had to find a guy who, which wasn't hard,

who said that he would make rounds down there with while armed. So if you have any ideas about finding them not there, there's an armed guard. Yes. Literally. Many armed guards. Start at the top of the hill. So with many bullets ready.

And then they like that. It feels like now we're talking. We're talking. And so my mom and I were arguing. and she says, well, she said she didn't say something, which I knew she said it. And there's a small circle here of people who she's talking to. And I said, Kay, you didn't do that. She goes, I didn't say that.

And then so I kept on it. And then finally Kay says, well, I've already confessed that, so quit bringing it up. She said she had made a confession. She confessed it. I think what she said, Willie, is I've already repented. And you said, well, to have repentance, there has to be a confession. because she hadn't confessed. Oh, wow.

Well, yeah. This was, this was, oh. Well, it had gotten bumpy. But I think the whole problem is, I mean, Phil has always resorted to, he's a quarterback. He doesn't like being on the sidelines. And my mom has always been a diva. It's just the honest truth. She has people around her.

So they feel like, you're not going to stick me off somewhere. Well, you just, yeah, she's wanting to, yeah, it's like the minute we, Oh, I got a call later. It's like, where are my dogs? Yeah. Like, we'll get your dogs. We'll get the dog and those dogs, you know, and so we got the dogs, which the dogs are problematic because they scratch mom. And so, yeah, so her whole.

And calling them dogs is nice. It's a, yeah. They're, they're nice. Yeah, they're not. Well, she loves the dogs. Yeah, I know. But it's hard what I'm saying to get back to the rational behavior. They both got out of pretty.

pretty rough surgeries and you know they they just in case something goes wrong we as the rational side of people are saying let's not go way off just in case there's a problem but they're like well i feel fine yeah i mean she's like kay you almost cut your leg in half yeah they literally have it stitched up you're in a you know and feels she still wants to do stuff like case still wants to in her mind i guess she's thinking like i can go do anything i'm like no you can't so so they haven't moved we're just you know they're they're having procedures and surgeries and things happen and we're trying to you know watch out for them and and make everybody that's helping them have a little easier time to keep up with them but so that was kind of the conflict i mean we're we're getting

into the personal stories but they were like well we don't we don't like this arrangement we want our freedom it's like you're 80 years old and you just got out of the hospital somebody and so I thought the funniest thing that happened that nobody left on. It's because my dad said, well, what are other people? How do they handle this? And I think I said, I said, other people are loading their parents up and dropping them off at a nursing home. They don't have places where you can stay. But he was just kind of like, I'm not real sure what you mean by that.

So I was like, you got to remember we're all pitching in here. He's forgot when we, you know, with mama. We brought that up, but, you know, it's hard to command memories on demand. And these overall conditions, because what I usually say is like people, because I've been asked just to over and out, you know, how's your dad doing? But, you know, we're in the bowels of this every day. And, you know, it's hard to put that in a one sentence. Well, that's why I tell you, deep down, they know. Okay, and are appreciative of it.

Yeah. I mean, we had to just, we had, it's like you're talking about the rationale has gone. Yeah. So, you know. We had a cool moment, not before this meeting, two days before I came out there and, uh, where they were in their mobile, you know, being cared for. And it was just kind of, kind of awkward, you know, it was, there was tension. Yep. So Kay said, well, maybe you can just give us a sermon.

So I did. I got my Bible out and gave them a one hour, which, look, I will say this, though, it was the most attentive that I've seen both of them. And they never said it were, and Jeff and his family was, it turned into a little house church, you know. And really the subject matter was something I've been studying just from our podcast, but I said, well, what if Paradise is a person? That's what I asked them. Well, they were, they both were looking away.

And when I said that, they just snapped at me. Because I thought, you know, here they are at the, you know, the end, the back end of their life. Yep. And so I read that verse where when Jesus was on the cross. And, you know, the thief next to them that today you'll be with me in paradise. And I said, everybody talks about, oh, what is that like? Tell me about paradise. Of course, they were just glued to what I've said.

I said, but I think what in trying to figure out what that means, we've missed a little phrase in there that's way more powerful. And then I quoted some other verses that says the same thing. I was like, he said, today you'll be with me. With me in paradise. So I talked about being with the eternal son and what that looks like is resurrection, you know, and in his presence. And when Paul said, you know, it's, I'm torn because I don't, you know,

I want to be in the body. But he says, if I'm away from the body, I'm with the Lord. Same concept. And so we talked about it for an hour. But then Kay, so I was interested to see, because it went on for one hour. And she said, that was one of the most incredible, encouraging things I've ever heard.

But I have one recommendation, which she mispronounce recommendation. Somebody said recommendation. Yeah, yeah, that. She said, next time, dumb it down. So we all had a good laugh, broke the tension. But so that's what I'm saying. But it kind of hit me when I left.

They've been having so many problems and had so many doctor visits. And, you know, they hadn't just heard some good Bible about their relationship. And I think it was a needed moment, you know, kind of for where they're at. That's what most people, because that's why I said when people talk to me about death. it doesn't mean nothing to me. Yeah. Because I know where I'm going. I know who I'm going to be with.

I know who I'm going to be surrounded by. Yeah. Yeah, it's powerful. That's God, first of all. Mm-hmm. And then everybody that's went before me will be there and we'll all be together. Yeah, exactly. Those that have loved me my whole life.

Yeah. I always think that when they're in the religious where there's so many ideas about what's going to be like. And I'm like, You know, it's just like if you're taking a road trip. Yeah, and I ain't about the journey. Well, the most important part is who's going. Yeah, who's with you? You know, because I'm like, oh, he's in, she's in.

You know, I mean, my wife's in, I'm in. It's kind of the way the Bible really dumps it down in a way because it is relationship-driven, you know. Something else happened funny yesterday. I'm going to, speaking of confessions, I've got a confession to make. So I get the, I was on a plan. I just spoke in Kentucky.

And so I'm on a plane and I get, it came like a weird like on an email, but it was like a text attached. I know I needed Johnny D. I needed somebody smarter me. And it was a couple, a young couple. Look that, Hunter. I need that for my Instagram thing. It's a young couple that had a baby. And I'm like, I don't know who these people are.

And so I was like, I don't know how they got. And it said, I didn't have your number. But here's the picture. And so I was with Chad. I said, who are these people? I have no idea. And I said, I don't know who these people are. So I didn't know what to do.

I was like, it looks like obviously I'm excited for whoever they are because they had a child. And so I just said, congrats, you know, I don't know who that is. And so. Oh, this is fun. Oh, no. I think I know where this is going. So yesterday, Chad calls and says, it's Jep's kids. And I said, who is Jep's kid?

He said, that's who the picture was. And I said, he didn't send it over his phone. He came through some weird deal. And she had just had her face didn't look the same. Well, and he had a medical hat on. Oh, boy. I love it. So then I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Now, well, Chad thought I was going to play it off like, you know, oh, dude, of course. You know. But then I just had to call Jeff and I said, Jeff, man, my bad. You sent me some weird way because he didn't have my number. Like I have a number. Well, look, you know what's funny? I didn't have your number for like six months. I was like, he said, he didn't know.

I said, man, I just didn't know who. He said, well, he said, I called. I was like, Willie must be mad at me because everybody's like, hey, grandpa. You know, he said, and Willie just said, congratulations. And he said, and Willie just said, congrats. So then I texted on his something different. It was actually about food for mom and dad. So then Jeff said, he called me and said, who is this person?

That's what he did. Who is this person trying to set up all this food? And she goes, that's Willie. That's your brother. Either one of us. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. She told me that backstory.

because when he sent the text originally that you never saw, he didn't send it on an email. It was me and Al both responded because I was like, oh, but I will admit at first glance, I thought, who is this? Because they did look a little different. They were in the hospital room. He had the mask on.

Yeah, and it's more on the baby, you know, and so that was the focus. I'm like, I don't know these people. And I thought, oh, they had the baby. Oh, wow. I'm like, crap, somebody's got my phone number and they're sending me like. That's what you have got to be kids.

So me and Al gave long responses that were well thought out and encouraging Willie nothing. Congrats. But I didn't get the text that he could. You didn't get the text. I didn't get all there because that number was no longer in service. Also, something else I want to bring up. This is for actually the crew as well.

So my wife chewed me out for being on this podcast. And she, I don't know if people said it. online or whatever, but she said that I had bored face when we had the blurry creatures guys like. What is bored face? Willie. I'm looking bored. We had Willie involved.

The problem was, I talked for the entire, I couldn't get a word in Edgewater. I'm like, why did you invite me here? If I was just going to talk to them the whole time, I'm like, why did you tell me to come? I mean. About 10 minutes in, Willie reached into his bag of rubber. I know, I need a rubber band. It was only matched by the first time Jason invited me on their podcast,

and I get my first question at 49 minutes. And I'm sitting here going, why did you invite me if you're literally going to talk that a time thing? I didn't even going to let you talk. So, well, you did it too. So you taught the entire time. So I was preaching and taught.

So I just want to say, I didn't mean to have bored face. It's a good gig if you can get it. Well, I mean, I wasn't trying to make. make a bored face, but like, so whoever said that or we got a lot. Our fans are more negative than the unashamed fans. It's okay to be bored. I mean, I mean, I was not trying to show it on my fan.

I don't want to have a board. It's when the rubber bands come out and you start doing the rubber band. Hey, look, you're saying that. That's welcome to the rubber band. It's better to be, have a board face than an RBF face. That's true. Well, that's why we interrupt everybody because that's the only way to get a word. I think so if you're going to say something

you just got to say it. Interrupt them. You know it's funny about the then they invited me back on that a shame and I think I was talking about my book and so I'm telling them all about the podcast over it. Jason, well you made up for it with that

one. I made up for the 49 minutes I'm not going to ask great way. Yeah, you got your time in there. You've got an average averaged out to normal ones. Be careful what you wish for. No, it goes back to tombstone, you know. Sometimes you forget

you're there. Oh, I forgot you were there. Oh, you're here. I get it. But y'all do these podcasts all the time, and I'm, I don't, obviously, I'm a professional fill-in. But I got a podcast one time.

I did. Me and you. Yeah. It was weird. But I realized how much y'all have to talk. Willie had to talk a lot. Willie had a radio show. Forget podcast.

Willie, Willie was on talk radio. Willie Robertson's wild lives. I totally forgot about that. It's me and you like every Tuesday. Do you know why he? And the mountain man about that, I did have a radio show.

You know why he tries. J.R. Yeah. You know why he tries these things for a little bit and then try something else? Because it looks like it's not that much involved. Oh, it's, it's, it's, I don't know how you do. It's my.

Yeah, you're like, oh, we'll just get on there and talk. Yeah. You know. Well, I got about. six months into that and I thought you know I'm running out of soap here I might start doing some studying yeah I'm running out of soap well you know how many how many of you do I almost oh my thousand one thousand and forty yeah yeah so one thousand it's over over a thousand yeah that's a lot hey that's a lot of talking when you say are you don't want how long are they

one thousand and how long they're like 50 minutes so that's it's like a thousand Hold on. My computer's locked in my truck. I mean, I might as well do it. The quickness of a thousand hours divided. How many days? That is 41 days. But I'll tell you this.

Straight. And nights. You know why I keep doing it is I've learned more from doing that pie kit. Not you'd think, oh, you know, we're reaching. How do you're saying you've learned more, you're the one talking? Because I'm studying. Are you learning from yourself? I'm learning because I'm studying.

Oh, no, no, no. Okay. That's why I love coming to the unashamed. I always go away from there, way smarter than I was when I arrived. Well, I'll just say. If this is the condition you're in and way smarter, I'm unsure about your definition of way smarter.

A little bit smarter. He still don't say that. No, it's for real. Maybe he has a retention problem. He learns in the moment. There's no tension problem. I come away with two. a lot of jewels that I didn't see before.

So every time he does go on unashamed, he comes back here, like mad about something. Yeah, and then just starts yelling about some part of the Bible that he's mad. Yeah, I never have to wonder what y'all talked about. Well, like, before, so today's my off day, even though I came up here. Well, thank you. We appreciate you.

So on my off days, I study. Yeah. So I studied four hours before I came up here. If I talked to y'all about what I studied the last four hours, I literally think y'all would be like the Raiders of the Ball Start. Just melt our faces. He chose. Do you think we'd have Ford face?

Well, hey, speaking about that, what are we talking about on tomorrow's episode? Oh. Are you on it? Yeah. I'm not sure yet. Well, he just said if he tells you your face is going to melt off. Yeah. And you already had that happen a few months ago, so we don't want to do it.

You got to save your, you say, call the sidewalk. Your face is going to melt off tomorrow. Hey. So he's on an in a shade tomorrow? Yeah. Yes. Just make sure you got that steroid cream. So here's what you need to do.

Well, God said to me, your new creation, Simon officer, and I said, Roger that. Look, here's what you need to do and it'll go viral on the internet. You ready? Oh, wait, wait. No, no, look.

No, no, look. Well, we had two no-n-no. Dueling no-no. Because, look, Si, if somebody saw you walking down the street, didn't know who you were, they would think all you needed was a sign saying the end is near. So, look, what you should do is go out in the parking.

lot and put, based on what we just talked about, just have a sign. Let me have a sign. You ain't going to say the end. It needs to say the beginning. I said, hey, the beginning is starting. Exactly. Soon. And they'll.

Here. The beginning is here. And then when they pull up and ask you what the signs about, you can tell them about Jesus. Oh. So that's what we'll talk about tomorrow. That's the question you need to ask them. The beginning is happening. Are you ready?

Who else is it? Si, who else are your guest? Well, it'll be Zach. Al. Oh, no, Zach. Oh, because he's in England. Oh, yeah. England.

It'll be me, Al. Jack is in England. That's why you're replacing that. Well, that ain't big shoes. So we... They got a guy that uses big words that nobody knows what they mean for a guy that uses big words

that he can't pronounce. Perfect swap. No, the name of the podcast is going to be apologetics to insanity. Living out of your mind for Christ. There you go. Well, I feel that bill, baby. That's a good one.

Yeah, I'm talking about it. Yeah. That tracks. 100%. Yeah, he's over there with Jordan Peterson, so he's getting some intellectual stimulation over there. I tell you with the rest of your family? Yeah.

Yeah, everybody's going to be there. Are you going there? Oh, I got to go to that jolly old England. You got to go to Jolly Old England? That's my dream location. London? Yeah. anywhere in England because as a treasure hunter,

they let you treasure hunt anywhere. Now, you don't get to keep what you find. Lots of treasures in England. You can take a picture of it. And that's why America's better. And you can keep what you find. Hold on. That's why I would rather go to the market.

Wait for it. Here's the rule. You can take a picture with it. And then they will give you the monetary value. Oh, that's better than the stuff for sure. But they take it. Who assigns the value? The government.

And we don't know if that's a king or a congress. We don't even know. How many governments I got? If you find a coin from $14, a gold coin from the year, whatever, 19, I'm pretty sure. So what happens if you dig it up and you just put it in your pocket and know about you? They put you in jail. Okay. Yeah.

What if you didn't know? You find the corn and you can't keep it? I just told you what their situation was. USA. Part of this is there's lots of treasure hunters in jail. There's lots of stuff about, man, treasure hunting. Yeah. So that'll be a prison minister.

You're a treasure hunter, not a pirate. it. Man knows a lot about treasuring. But I will say this, like that's your bucket. Like, you can make that happen. Well,

let's book a flight and go to London. I mean, you know, well, you're a guy who knows people. Let's make it happen. I'm saying, like,

I want somebody else to pay for it. What is y'all's deal? Everything's got a price. It's always better if someone else pays for it, just like that rough road, son. I don't mind paying my own weight. I'm saying, Jay's. I need.

He's not all right. He needs access. Well, I sent Zach on the mission. I said, find me access to land. To land. Because you still have to get permission. Oh, we just need to go hit up in people in Chicago. I know tons of Pia.

When we play golf fair at the American club. It's got to be a Renaissance club. I don't want to just do the whole country. I want some kind of site where something happened to give me better odds of finding something. Yeah, like something by a brave heart. Exactly. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff happening in London.

There's probably no telling what I was buried in them hills. Yeah. I would love to do it. And I'll do a Jesus seminar in between at night. Well, there's a lot in the Bible about finding treasure. You put it back. A lot of my treasures, I do, yeah. Hey, Britt, the Brits needs Jesus too.

No, they're, well, what are they post, what do they call it? Huh? Like it's over. Like the churches are empty. Post. Well, I'm saying Jesus himself. Yeah, it's like, I can't think of the time. As Zach, you know.

Getting back to our heaven and earth being connected through Jesus, he actually used that as an illustration when he said there is rejoicing in heaven and on earth when someone returns to God and he used the illustration like when a woman found a lost coin. So that's where I got the idea to go treasure hunt. And I thought if the creator of the universe is using this hobby as an illustration, I mean, heaven and earth rejoicing, I might need to go get me a metal detector. Find something.

What did you always say whenever I figure out to buy a plane ticket on my own? No, buy stuff from Amazon. Yeah, that was a big word. I would go to Amazon, take the picture. He would screenshot a picture of the ad to cart button. And I would say, buy me this. Yeah, what's even coolers?

Now they've got a little button says, buy now. You don't even have to add it to cart. It just does it for you. I don't even know what they're talking about. Do you, son? Hey, I still know Willie's credit card number. By heart.

Johnny didn't know all my numbers. It was like rain, man. Three, seven, two, seven, one? Oh, wait, we shouldn't do that. Yeah, whoa. That one expired in May of 18. I'm still trying to figure out when you have a cart in the grocery store parking lot. Is it my responsibility to take it to the said location?

Oh, I'm about to get blasted. Yes, it is. Absolutely. If you use a shopping cart full of whatever you bought. Well, I take it over there. You go to the parking lot, you're in a load our thing in your truck. You're supposed to take that and put it where it just put it. Yeah.

But isn't that their job? No. No, they've got a guy to collect them and bring it back in. We're living in a society here. Like, we all should. This is a community thing. It's easier for you to bring it over there than the poor guy out there. It's a community thing.

The more guy out there, he's being paid. The card is for your youth. pay to go get him from the spot that he's supposed to get him from. So I only use this as an analogy to say if we can't agree on an actual physical cart. Why would I want to try to have an imaginary cart and figure that out on the internet? It's not imaginary. It's a real car. You have not a real card.

This is a guy that wears your seatbelt under your arm, don't know. This is about appreciation. No. We give you a shopping cart to load your... good to take it to the truck. Have the courtesy to return it and put it back where it goes. Don't be a Johnny D.

I put it back. But you shouldn't judge people that don't. It's 2025 though. They'll bring that stuff to you. Judge not. That's you be judged. I only brought this up to bring back the words of my dad, Phil, who would say.

I want a rough road. On the internet, where is the actual cart? Show me the card It's in binary It's all ones and zeros And I'll give you my money Okay

I got to But speaking of Phil How many times do you think Phil ever pushed a grocery card In his life I'd say zero We're going with zero Not even one

No I really don't think Phil I never saw it in my Well I'll give you one I'll take one I never saw Phil grab a grocery card and push it. The only time I saw Phil in a grocery store was in Idaho because that was the same day that it was Halloween.

We didn't know it was Halloween. How did you not know it was Halloween? Because we were on a duck trip. That's right. We were on a duck trip. You didn't have a calendar? They actually gave us an award, which was a $25 gift certificate

because they thought our natural look were costumes. That's right. They thought we was in costumes. Costumes. That's not costume. So, look. So Phil said, hey, this is the only time I ever saw him in Gorsetor, he said, hey, Jase, you're the youngest. Grab one of those carts.

So Phil, the way he used carts is whoever's the youngest. That's the golf cart. Well, I remember even on the hunting trips we went on, it was all, Phil sat in the truck and gave us a list to go in and get. He never even went in. No, no, he'd sit in the truck. But he's one of, like, the greatest cooks we all know. But he never went to grocery store. Hey, he don't shop for it.

He evolved. I would say if Phil, because Phil probably when he went grocery shopping, they probably didn't have carts yet. It was just, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, they'd know because. He probably just turned it a bag out. They told me that when they were living in Kansas, when he was working on an oil field or something,

that's when he was in college. Yeah. By the way, you know, college football and you had to work in the summer in some other state. But she said she would push the grocery cart all the way to their apartment because it was close. So they did have a cart. Yeah. Well, I think as a quarterback, he just deemed that not his. That's not a job.

I didn't want to be enrolled. I push her grocery cart every day. Me too. That's true. I love going to go into the grocery. Look, hey, I can have the same argument on. I got to have the same argument on. I'm trying to think.

I think the last time Corey pushed her grocery cart, which, no. At least it 20 years ago. My grocery cart's right here on my phone and then somebody just sets it at the door. Hey, I can tell you the way to the last time she pushed it. Get a child who'd push it just right. My wife has become such a great cook that she'll say, I've got to go to the grocery store.

And I'll say, please, allow me. I love going to the grocery store. I would never let Corey yet pick. Because Corey, she'll call me and it's like she's at. yeah but hey it's like she's at disney one she's like did y'all know did you

did you know they have this you ever noticed the refrigeration is all the way around the back I'm like yeah so hey he he puts you off the car so having said that

we appreciate the prayers I did I did see an uptick in my dad's demeanor and overall countenance when we kind of went public with this so which is why I'm coming up here on my day off

we appreciate the prayers because there's no doubt in my mind that that caused, I think, a peace in his spirit when that happened. That's a lot of people praying. Yeah, and I spent the last weekend in Nashville, too, and there were a lot of people that come up and we're praying for Phil, praying for Phil. So they're still at it, and we are all appreciative of it. And also, thank you all for taking y'all's time to come in and sit down and chat with us.

You're always welcome here. We're not ever really going to ask. day he was his day off as he said that he said that he's mentioned out about five times I mean I felt like I'm having to I feel like I'm having to kiss the ring at some point I got it he showed up on his day off

I got it now and I almost didn't come but and then Jay said I'll see you tomorrow I'm I seeing you tomorrow okay said hey preach to us that's that that was a good request yeah and we do always close

with a verse. So if either one, you all have one. I actually want to take this one. Oh, okay. No offense to you guys. You know the Bible more than me, but, and I broke my microphone. But I have seen my parents walk through what you're walking through because we were very close to all our grandparents. And it just always reminded me of how I want to take care of my parents one day. And Ephesians 6, 2, and 3 repeats a ton of what it said in the Old Testament over and over again as a law. And Ephesion 6, 2, and 3 says, honor your father and mother. This is the first command with a promise that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land. It's awesome to watch you guys.

I know some days are good and it's good to laugh, but I know it's tough because I've seen my parents go through it. But I think what people might take from this episode is just the joy of seeing you guys going through a really hard time and knowing what's on the other side of it. It's pretty inspiring. So thank you guys for just kind of sharing it with the world of something that honestly sucks. But really impressive.

y'all are doing. Much appreciated it. I appreciate it. It has been a difficult year. Let's just, it's laugh. In honor of Phil. It's life. Can somebody bring a boy of rump rums?

And honor of field, you got to eat. Don't you? Don't you? Can I have a rump roast for crying out of round? A lot of rump roast in here. Go a steak in there once in a while. Oh, we'll see y'all next time right here in the duck call room. We're out.

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