Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - 18 Minutes of Joe Mazzulla Stories

Episode Date: July 12, 2026

Joe Mazzulla shares stories about coaching the Boston Celtics, growing up in Rhode Island, and even his innovative new business idea.Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. We should start a business where you have like situation rooms. And like you can sign up and go in and like reenact different things. You know, like hey, what are you doing tonight? We're going to grab dinner and then we're going to go reenact it in Lodden Raid. That'd be a sick for state idea. You know what I mean? Like, I think the escape room is just the beginning.

Yeah. It's like, hey, what are you doing tonight? I thought we're going to simulate. They have those. You go out to, like, the West Coast. You can go deal with those, like, they teach you how to, like, the John Wick guy that teaches you gun. I'm talking, like, down here on, like, the main road.

You know, I'm not saying, like, you got to go out. I'm saying, like, you can find an escape room anywhere. Like, at a billiard spot? Yeah, like, tonight we're going to reenact, you know. Saw 4. No, maybe. I mean, talking about morality. But tonight we're going to reenact, like, negotiation tactics.

Like, hey, you're going to get, you know, after dinner, you're going to be kidnapped. And I got to, I got to use my negotiation tactics to, like, get you back. Like, more strategy than, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That's a fucking coach. That's crazy. I just want some situation. Like, so, like, whatever I watch, I try to tie into, like, how you can, you know,

another great one is, uh, so we should think more about that business. All right. I'm into it. I like that. Boardroom, screen. Yeah. Someone comes in. You know what my favorite movies is?

What? The game. Was that Michael Douglas? Yeah. Where he hires the people to put himself in that situation. Yes. Because he wants excitement. Yeah.

I'm just playing in this night. I like this fun Friday night. I mean, escape rooms are just the beginning. Oh, yeah. That's challenge play. Come on. I mean, that is. I mean, that's over.

I mean, that's boring. Trying to go, P.F. Chang's, maybe a little waterboarding afterwards. Next up, Joe Missoula explains what halftime is like in an NBA locker room. So a half time. What's the locker room like under head coach, Joe Mzula? I think you're from as soon as that horn goes off, even during the first half, you're, I'm constantly saying, okay, what did we do well?

What didn't we do well? What hurt us? And you try to anticipate on what's going to happen in the second. And then when the horn goes off, it's about a 45 second to a minute walk to the back. You're kind of deciding about like, all right, like, what does the team need right now in this moment? And then, you know, what are we going to focus on? And so in that game, you're talking about the, you know, you follow a three-point shooter three times and you give them nine potential points out of that that you have to take that away. And so I think you're just constantly, but it changes, right? Sometimes you're in there and you show film. You know, sometimes you're in there and like you don't show any film. Sometimes it's like, okay, does an individual player need something or does the team need something? And so you're just constantly diagnosing what needs what at that moment, figuring out like, okay, where do we need to be better that we can control? Where do we need to be better of the things that?

you know, we suck that. And then, you know, try to get ready for the second half there. Now, how long is the halftime? It's 15 minutes. By the time you get back to the locker room, it's like 13.30. And then you got three and a half minutes to look at the halftime edit to see what you want to show. And you try to show the halftime at like 10. So do you have, because like whenever our half time, it was, it was clockwork.

We would come in for halftime. It was 13 minutes or 12 minutes. Coaches would have two minutes together while we were undrain, like let our emotion. get down. Then we break up into O&D. Offensive coach would have his four keys that we're going into. Defense a coach would have his four keys. We'd have two minutes there.

Then we'd have two minutes as a team. And then special teams would have one minute or like it was broken down. Like you guys have a moment? It's different because you guys are so small. Yeah, it's different. So I think you're in the back. As far as roster size. No, by the time we get to the team,

it's probably four clips, offense, four clips defense, or if one side of the ball is just so much more. drastically impacting the game, you just focus on that. But it's like that in the staff. Like, you know, the offense team will give their insight. The defense team will give their insight. The coach doing the halftime at it kind of puts in, you know, order of what's most

important. And you're just, you know, so in that three and a half minutes, you're kind of deciding, okay, what's the most important? Is it a, are both important or are we focusing on one? Now, Joe Mazzula, on what it means to coach the Boston Celtics. What was it like being called to be the 19th coach? for the historic Boston Celtics. I mean, that's kind of where my faith came into play.

It just felt like it was a true gift from God, really. Like, it was like, I don't belong here. You know, you go through a little bit of like, how did I get here slash I don't belong here? But I also, I was put here, you know, by God. And so, like, that's really the only way to describe it. Can you describe to people, our viewers, that are from different cities, how the Celtics are different than any other NBA franchise?

Yeah, I mean, I think it's, it starts with the, You know, it starts with the tradition. It starts with some of the greatest players who have ever played the game. And then it goes to the city. Like, you know, there's not much difference between how Hugs motivated us the year we went to the final four and what it's like to be in Boston. I think the only way for a team to maximize itself, not just in one year, but in a series of years is like we took on the identity of West Virginia people, the gritty, the hard

nose, the blue collar. Like, he was very adamant on like playing for something bigger. than yourself. And it's the same thing here. You know, you're playing for something bigger than yourself. You're not playing for just yourself. You're playing for the guy next year, but you're playing for the city. You're playing for the competency of the fans and the respect of the fans and the respect of the organization. And, you know, that comes with a lot of responsibility. That comes with a, it's not easy, but it's necessary. And it's a compliment that you get that responsibility to be able to do it. But, you know, there's nothing better and it's just different.

And I think it's a list of all those things. Who is the team asshole? Like the guy that, not like an asshole, but a team asshole in our world is a good guy that holds people accountable, may not do it in the most proper way, but works his dick off. Yeah. That kind of asshole. Not like an asshole. Yeah.

I mean, let's not use that word because I don't like. Who's a team enforcer? Yeah. So there's like a few guys. Everybody is in their own way, right? Like, vocal guy. Like Jason does it in one way,

Jalen does it in another way, Al does in another way for this season and for his time here, you know, you have to give that to Smart, like his ability to do that. And an underlying one who ended up being one of the best people I ever coached was Blake Griffin. You know,

he became like just an amazing guy and his ability to lead in different ways, both in action and in words. And so, you know, they all did it in their own way. But the verbal probably, you know, came from smart, from Blake, came from Jalen at times, came from Al at times. JT. leads by example. Like he's, you know, his consistency. But he also leads, you know, behind the trenches, the way he,

how he, you know, treats other people and, and, you know, his coachability. So they all do it in their own way. Now, how did Blake do it differently? I mean, it was actually interesting because, like, I didn't, again, I was the interim. And then we signed Blake and I'm like, shit. Like, how am I going to coach this guy? Like, he was a former number one pick. Like, it's Blake Griffin. And, you know, his humility, like, he came in and our relationship changed. And it, you know, motivated me when he came to me. It was like, hey, how can I get better? And for a guy of his stature and where he's been to have the foresight that be like,

hey, I want to get better. Like, how can I, you know, that was huge. Right. And, you know, every time he talked and decisions that he made weren't about him, they were about, you know, winning. Yeah. Now, you talk about Jason Tatum and how he treats people. That's probably a huge.

component of why he is, who he is, what else makes him great? Yeah. I mean, I think you live in that space of like greatness is viewed at as differently. And I think another thing, when you play for the Celtics and you have a great team and you have multiple guys, you have to take on everybody's greatness. And you have to allow space in order for greatness to kind of be exemplified in different ways. Right. And, you know, like Al does it in a certain way Jalen does it in, and Jalen does it in his way and his approach and his fierceness and his warrior mentality. Jason does it in his consistency and, you know, his ability to just want to be coached all the time and want to be held accountable, which they all do that, right?

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and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joe Missoula breaks down where island food. Now, what's young coach Missoula's favorite place on federal hill? Panovino. Panavino. Yeah. I think I worked there for like two days.

What happened? I'm not a big manual labor guy And so I was like I'm not doing that I can't do this I think you had to like If I remember you had to ask for like three Now I guess the people that like Now I'm that guy because I always want sparkling water Instead of distilled

You had to ask for like three different waters Did you want? Yeah still flat sparkling Yeah and then like the utensils had to be like Three fingertips from the thing And I was like I'm just gonna go to the gym Tight ship baby They run a tight ship over in the hill

Do you ever go to Orfonos? Alphornos? Maybe once when I was a kid but like, I don't remember it as much. You ever go to Siena's? No. That was over there on the hill. We used to go there.

We weren't allowed to go to federal. We weren't really allowed to go to Providence. Coach didn't want us there. There's a lot of great restaurants in Rhode Island. Cursarice pizza is obviously a big one. Yeah. Rosamia's pizza in Johnson is phenomenal. I got to, what's called Rosamia?

Rosamia. You got to find it's like the true Sicilian pizza, like nice thick square slices. What kind of sauce? It is a sweet sauce? No. Not too sweet? You get the, it has like the, it's got like pepperoni and the peppers on there and like built underneath the cheese. We'd get that a lot with my grandmother.

Now does your grandma make like a hell of a red sauce and shit? Have you seen Nona's on Netflix? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's on fire. Yeah, it's fun, right? Yeah.

But I was, I couldn't remember if my grandmother called her sauce sauce or gravy. Gravy. But she made a hell of a, you know, a sauce or gravy. You know, I always want to experience that Italian East Coast grandma. That was us. Every what, Sunday? I mean, every night, so every night, like, because she lived in the same house by dad. I think there was nine brothers and sisters combined, but you never knew who was coming over.

So she would make dinner every night. And it was just an open door. So, like, whoever came in came, you know, if you got there late, you didn't eat. And so, but on Sundays, we would have, like, you know, a big, a big ordeal. Like, all my aunts would cook. My grandmother would cook. It was, I mean, it was just like, just like the movie. It was cool.

It was cool to kind of relive that. I watched that the other night with my wife. Now, we got bread for everything, right? Bread has to be bread. I've learned that in the Italian house. You got to have a piece of bread in your hand at all time for the sauce, the fucking noodles. You got to dip the bread in the sauce. You can't let the sauce go to wait.

I don't eat as much bread anymore. You can't coach. I know. I mean, I'm getting old. Not getting old, but I've heard the interviews. You got to stay in shape so you can understand the perspective that the players are in, right? I think that's important. I think that's a way to be empathetic for what those guys have to go.

Hell yeah. But I lost touch. I don't do the coffee after dinner. I can't do that. I'll never go sleep. I can't. No. I'm sensitive that stuff too.

I went through a San Buka phase though. Ooh. Yeah. Like that. The tea? No. What is it? Oh, is that the alcohol?

Yeah. Dejistivo. Is it Dejcestivo? What else is Zamboca? And then there's another one. There's a lemoncello, which is too sweet. But there's an Amaro that's phenomenal. Like the amoro's a great.

I used to drink those a little bit. They always say makes your stomach feel better. I felt like it made me drunker. I think both can be true. Now, Joe Missoula on his favorite movies. What's the best Boston movie of all time, Coach? I know you love the town, but is that your favorite? It's between the town and the departed, I'd say.

Yeah. Depends on what kind of relief you need, do you want? I don't know what kind of mood you're in. I mean, I grew up on the departed. But the town, as I got older, and the reason why I kind of resonate a little bit more with the town than the departed is, is the identity and the love factor, you know, that like you're in this space. Like I feel like kind of, you know, this area and kind of how I grew up of like,

and even people in general, not necessarily to an area, but it's like, uh, you're always, you don't like the person you are, but you do and you're trying to be something that you want to be something more, but like you're, who you are is bringing you down, so to speak. You know what I mean? And I feel like the town portrays so much more than violence where it shows an identity crisis. of like this area made me, but I'm looking for more. You know, and, you know, the great things about me are from this area, but also the tough things about me are from this area.

And how do you evolve as a person? And, you know, living in a space of falling in love with someone, but also robbing banks at the same time. It's like there's nothing more of a duality or approach to that. And so it just has a little bit more of a, than the part of it of where, like, it's an action and it's a great movie. Like, this is like, you know, it shows more of like life of like, you know, you're trying to figure out your identity, but you have these things,

tugging with you at all times, but you want to be a better person. And, oh, by the way, I love you, but I'm also using you because you're getting interrogated by the FBI. What's more, you know? Yeah, it's darker. Yeah, it's realer. I'm attracted to, you know, like the part is comic. There's some comedy relief with, you know, Jack and how he does things. There's a little funniness to it.

Yeah. The other one, town, and there ain't, that shit feels real. It's just dark. Yeah, I agree with you. And I'm not, you saying it as like a, saying, and I'm attracted to the dark side of greatness or the dark side of like the tugs of identity and love and like, you shadows? Are you part of the Batman people?

I mean, that trilogy is by far the best trilogy. That is by far. By far. Yeah. I mean, the dark night is dark. I, you know what? You know what I loved? I loved Batman begins because I was a huge Batman kid when I was a kid.

Yeah. And to see the origin of where it all came from, like, I was like, oh my God, that's. how they got the Batcave? Holy shit. Oh, man, that's where he got his fucking moves. He went to China or Japan, wherever he went. Like, that was like, and then the Dark Night's was crazy. And then Bain came.

See, I think the Batman begins is third. I think it's Dark Night, Dark Night Rises, then Batman begins. Oh. I think I'll go Dark Night, Batman Begins, Dark Night Rises. It got a little long at the last one. Yeah. But the space I love is like villains, you know, like the movies and like these are like the themes that I always think about of like there really isn't much difference between the

hero and the villain. Right. And I think that's the space of why the villain gets so frustrated is like the self-righteousness of the hero thinking he's better than someone else because he's quote unquote trying to do the right thing, you know? And so they're more similar than they than you think. Are you a Star Wars fan? I'm not. Because I have that same argument with, you know, the dark side and having the force, you know. I think when you're, what do they call? called? Sith. A Sith?

When you're a Sith, all they are people that have the force that make decision through emotion. Yeah. When you're a Jedi, you're making decision emotional lists. So it's more peaceful, but why are we getting mad at a person that's making emotional decision because we all do that? Yeah, I know. The space is, but the gap between a hero and a villain is much, it's very similar to,

like, the gap between winning and losing and greatness to, you know, be good to great. Like that gap is so much closer than people think And it's very small fundamental details That separate you And that's the space that I like to like dive into a lot What is it the saying? You live long enough of the hero

You die the villain or something Dark night Dark night You die a hero live long enough to be the villain I mean that's as much true as you can get It is now who's your villain Who's the villain? The Joker

You're the Joker Yeah That's the guy That's like my guy Like the Heath Ledger version Yeah Yeah yeah Yeah, I heard the first time, I mean, so I have this, I mean, I got this.

So, why he's so serious. For him. Wow. Because of like that perfect balance of like, you know, you know, it's a great question. Yeah. Yeah. And he goes into like telling the story as to like how he got to that point, you know. But it's like, you know, it's amazing how, like if you look at the Batman and the Joker, it's like the Joker had no rules, but he really.

just wanted honesty, you know, but he just went to the wrong depths to try and get that honesty. Meanwhile, Batman was like, you know, I'm doing, I'm doing this for all the right reasons, when in reality, like, was he? And, you know, they're not much different. They're not. You need to do a movie podcast. That's what you should do on your spare time. I was going to ask you, what do you do on your spare time, but... Probably going to get better at my job first. Fucking that's a car. It's a car. Sure. I'm at sports journalist Ari Chambers.

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