Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Alabama vs. Oklahoma

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

In honor of the SEC showdown between Alabama and Oklahoma this weekend, we're talking dudes from each of these historic programs. Our first dude is an electric gamer with a knack for the big play. Our next dude is has an unmatched championship pedigree at the college and pro level. Our third dude is an absolute beast that's currently on a tear for his new squad. Then we wrap up the show with Gronk and Jules sharing stories from their college days.Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with us each and every Monday. Listen to reasonably shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up with you? How was Fight Night? Fight Night was legit, man. And we're just chilling there. I don't know who else is going to be around.

I sit down and Shaq's right next to me as well. I'm like, oh, this is going to be a great night. I love Shaq. I'm already friends with Shaq. And you're already fighting them. Yes. Yeah, well, I wasn't already fighting him. The fight started because of that situation of us sitting next to each other.

and the interview happened. What's behind this sign? Right here. What are, what's behind this sign? What's behind it, Jules. Oh. Oh, all right.

We got some Shaq Gummys. Oh, Shaq Gummy Bears. I bet you those are extra large gummy bears and extra delicious because if you ask Shaq Diesel, he delicious Shaq Diesel. No, look at it.

He's yummy Shaq Diesel. It's literally shack-alicious X-Gummy Bears. I called it. I called it. I didn't even know. Shackalicious. I didn't even know. Are you going, are you taking the fight?

I actually would fight Jack in a boxing match. Here's the thing. I would never do the UFC stuff, no matter what the payment is, no matter how much money it is. But I would box someone that the money was right. No doubt about it. What's right money? There we go. That was a question.

What's right money? At least $12 million. $12 million minimum. I think we could get that done. Shaq. Rob on an undercard of one of the next Paul fights for $12 million. Nothing better. You know, I've been fighting through some pain.

You know, I've been fighting through some injuries as well. Let me tell you a little something. I've been traveling all over the place like five flights in a week, man. I'm there. I'm over there. And people are always asking like, yo, grunk, how do you do it? You're all over TV. You're there.

You're there. You're this. You're that. And I got a set schedule, you know. I'm usually doing a thing a day. But it's a travel that occupies basically all your time. because you got to travel from one city to another, different time zone changes.

And then, like, my sinuses just started, like, glaring up. I never had sinuses before. I don't even know what sinuses are. That big old nose has never had a sinuses. Well, it's huge. That's why everything can just pass right through jewels. Nothing gets stuffed in that nose for, big kids. That's why I love having a big nose.

But, I mean, I was, like, a little stuffy, which I shouldn't be because of the big nose, but my ears were a little hurting. And I took a flight. I was going to fight night. I was all excited. And while we were descending, my ears just started killing. I mean, killing, man.

I was like, ouch. They're like, just pop your, you know, pop your ears or whatever. So I'm, like, doing that. Now thinking about it, I think I'm making it worse. I think that's how I actually did damage to my ears because I was trying to pop up. So I fractured, not fractured. I mean, basically fractured, but I ruptured my ear. From flying?

From flying. I mean, I was beat down a little bit. When you rupture your ear, does it hurt? Yeah, I was bleeding. I hurt a lot, but I didn't know this yet. So I just thought, oh, I got some ear pain, whatever's going on. So I land in Dallas. It's about to be fighting out.

It's like, I can't miss this night. No. I can't miss this night. Oh, this is going to be one of the greatest nights. I'd never really been the fight night before. We went to the Mani Pacchio. We went to Pacquil. First Mayweather.

That was fun. Yeah. After the Derby. That was after the Derby. We don't really remember it. No, we don't. But we were like 50 rows up. I mean, Tom was front row.

but he put us up, you know. Nosebleeds. Literally the nosebleeds. I mean, but at least he invited us and got us. That was a fucking awesome night. I'm not complaining. I was what you, freaking dola in the stands. That was a good time.

So I, you know, I popped some Advil, just get rid of the pain. You know, I mask it. That's what it's all about. And then the fight night was great. You know, had a good time, hung out with Shaq. He was sitting next to me. Talk to Jerry Jones. I love Jerry Jones, by the way.

No wonder why everything is just, you know, over the top with Jerry Jones. because he brings so much energy to the table, man. He brings that juice to the table. That's what he's all about. And now I see it in person now. And that's why like everything is just built up and talked about so greatly around him. He's so good at, you know, communicating with people, marketing as well and bringing that energy to the table. And that's what it's all about.

He was bringing that energy to the table. I was like, man, I love this guy. He's bringing that juice. Does he got like an aura? He's got the aura of, I'm richy shit. Yes. Yeah, that, that, but also he's got that aura of let's live life. You know, let's have a good time. That's what it's all about. Now, wait up. We want to know this. I'm like the listener right now.

How did this situation go down? Did someone bring you to Jerry Jones? Did Jerry Jones bring you somewhere? Did he send some guy to pick up the gronk to come to his body? How does this all go down? Who introduces his hand? How is his handshake? Did he have a, any egg McMuffins with them. What was going on? I want to hear how this went down beat for beat. All right. All right.

Well, first off, I was there because I'm with Bill BASICs. I endorse Bill BASICs, the clothing brand. And Bill BASICs represented Mike Tyson's corner. Everyone was decked out and Bill BASICs. Mike Tyson had the Billed Basics shorts on throughout the fight. So the owner hit me up. He's like, hey, you want to go to the fight? You know, Netflix will hook us up.

They'll give us two tickets in the front row. I sponsored Mike Tyson. And I mean, I just feel like it'll be a good time. And it's a good fit. And you're with Bill. I would just love to go. If you don't want to go, no problem. But I was like, hey, that's a good idea.

A front row for a fight. I mean, you know, knock out one of my appearances for Bill basics as well at a fight. I mean, but then all of a sudden, the fight's about to start the main event. And then here just comes Jerry Jones. I mean, he's sitting right next to Shaq. That's where his seats were. And the whole time, I'm like, Shaq, I hopefully those two seats right there, no one comes because you're so big. Like, we need that extra room because sitting next to.

I could have. I only had half of my chair. Like, and then I was like, this is what people feel like when they sit next to me. So I feel like someone sitting next to me because I'm sitting next to Shaq. Oh my God. It's two large humans. But then here comes Jerry Jones and his wife. I was like, oh, Jack, I think those chairs are going to be sat in.

I think that's Jerry Jones's seat. And he's like, oh, that's cool. And I was like, yeah, that is cool. Actually, that's fine. And you're Jerry Land. He came. Yeah, Jerry World, baby. Let me tell you, Jerry World.

It's popping, man. So what did he go? Hey, old grown, how you doing? Yeah, we just started talking, man. And a great guy to talk to, man. And, you know, a lot of hype to him, definitely, which I love him. And he was just talking about all the people in the front row as well that were there and just giving everyone props, you know, just very positive. We just had some conversation.

It was just cool to be in Jerry World and just to be in the front row. They just have that aura around of just like, hey, we're living life. We love to have a good time. and we're here to give everyone an experience. And without Jerry World, there wouldn't have been that experience. So I just want to give him a shout out for everything that he has done, everything that he has built and everything that he has accomplished because he has given so many people, you know, entertainment.

Yeah. The value of entertainment, that's what life is all about. So thank you, Jerry, for that. Yeah, I mean, he gets a bad rap because they're the Dallas Cowboys and that's America's team and they're in the headlines all the time. But that's got to be a cool experience to get to experience Jerry Jones, not around. You know, like that's an experience between you two instead of all the headlines that this. You get to kind of see what he's really like.

And he sounds like he's a pretty cool dude. Yeah, definitely pretty cool. And you want to know what too? He was giving all his props, a lot of props to ex-Coboies. Because I'm a tight end. And Jason Whitman was right on the other side too. And he's like, hey, Jason Williams here. He's like, I love him.

And then I was like, yeah, I love Jason too. I've had a couple interactions with him before. I love him. He loves his boys. He loves his cowboys. He's loyal to them. He takes care of him. He takes care of him.

I heard he takes care of him. So I went to the fight or whatever. So I didn't know this. I didn't know I had that rupture to here yet. So then the next day, I fly to L.A. And we're descending again. And my mind, I'm on my knees praying to God. Like, hey, man, just take away this pain.

I don't care if there's that discomfort, if there's that ringing. Just take away that pain. And my whole brain was just, in flame. I was flipping out. So I went right to urgent care. I never been to urgent care before. Wait, so what urgent care did you go to? We landed in Orange County. So then you went to an urgent care, a random urgent care. Yeah. And you know, I know what's so funny is that they were talking about me fighting Shaq on the TV in urgent care. And I had my hoodie up wanting to cry. And I got up like, how can I fight Shaq? I'm at urgent care right now. I'm a, I'm a wissy. Oh my God. And it was

It was just funny. Thinking about it now that I'm not feeling terrible. Could you imagine rolling up to urgent care and you're sitting in there in the waiting room, you see fucking Rob Grunkowski with a fucking sore ear? No, I don't know what was cool. It was no one else was in urgent care. Not one person. No. And the three ladies that were working there had absolutely no clue who I was either, which

actually is better. Oh my God. I like it like that when I have to go, you know, and do something. Because then, you know, they get caught up in the moment and it just takes longer. and then I just wanted to get treated. Yeah, so I'm here. I got a ruptured earjump, but I don't care, man. I actually play better when I'm injured because it makes you dig deeper.

Hey, you got a podcast. It really does. You got a podcast for some time. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Ready? Yeah. Welcome to dudes with dudes.

I'm Jules. Hey, Jules. It's dudes on dudes. What I said? Dudes on dudes. You said dudes with dudes. Did I? Yeah, you did.

Well, welcome to dudes on dudes. I am corrected. That's gronk. I'm Jules, and this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes, and boy, do we have a crazy show today. Since the Oklahoma Alabama game is this weekend, we wanted to have a little theme of this dudes on dudes, and we're going to do Oklahoma, Alabama guys. What are we talking about today?

Well, it's an ambiguous tease of dudes. Let me tell you that, and we're talking about it. The number one pick in the 2019 NFL draft. I've watched his Twitch stream. Kid is good. I think we should go over to the Alabama. We're fair. We're very fair. This guy, though, was never fair on a goal line play, or he was never fair on a second and goal in the Super Bowl where he had to make a life-changing play to the

hugest calves I ever seen, other Alabama, road tide, crimson tide. Currently in talks of winning the MVP. Offensive player of the year, they don't give that to running back? Currently going to be on the best Russian team statistically, statistically. See, I got to read really fast because he has so many stats, I want to make sure we get through it. we wrap it up with our wildest college stories. You got to stick around to the end. Roll tied and boomer

sooner. Dudes on dudes is a production of IHeart Radio. First guy we'll be doing today in this Oklahoma, Alabama rivalry. Is it really a rivalry? It's about to be. It's about to be because Oklahoma, what?

They just move into the SEC. Can you explain what's going down in college? Because I'm not truly up to date with all these new conferences with teams moving from one conference to another. So can you just explain to everyone out there? Because I thought Oklahoma was in the Big 12, but now you're saying they're in the SEC. Yeah. Can you update me, please, George?

Yeah, conference realignment this year because of the bracket, there's going to be a 16-game playoff and a lot of money. There's going to be a lot of money. So now UT, Texas is in the SEC, Oklahoma is in the SEC, which is outrageous, but also freaking cool because it's not a rivalry yet, but this could turn into a rivalry. Oklahoma versus Alabama is something we rarely see, but we're going to get to see it now every year. So I think it's awesome. The money's going to be big for these conferences, but the matchups, man, college football has been

so exciting this year watching Oregon get to play Ohio State and these teams that you only got to see once every blue moon play each other in like bowl games, that now like you're getting to see powerhouse top five programs play each other that you didn't get to see before. I think it's awesome. That is awesome. Thank you for clarifying that. The University of Arizona is now in the Big 12. I feel like they replaced, you know, Oklahoma.

I went to the University of Arizona. Here's a little fun fact. The University of Arizona waft the University of Oklahoma last year in the Sun Bowl, giving us one of our best bowl wins of, you know, the history of the University of Arizona. Hell, yeah. Let's go wildcats. Give it up to the Wildcats. Wildcats.

Not doing so great this year, but, you know, how to bring up some positives since we're talking about Oklahoma and we beat Oklahoma last year. But let's get back to it. Let's talk about Kyler Murray, the number one pick in the 2019 NFL draft. Ladies and gentlemen, here he is. He's a good looking dude, man. Look at that headband. He's slick. He's like.

Looks like an athlete. He's swaggy. Yeah, swaggy. That's it right there. He's like real swaggy. He's a swaggy captain. He is a good. Yeah, he really is.

Let's start the clock. What's AI going to say about him? All right. Kyler Murray. We already start with AI. AI. The AI description of Kyler Murray. Kyle Murray is a dynamic NFL quarterback known for his elite dual threat ability.

Definitely. Excelling both as a passer and a runner. AI so far is totally spot on. Spot on. Drafted first overall by the Arizona Cardinals in 2019. He has earned a Pro Bowl selection and off. offensive rookie of the year honors. Wow.

Murray has thrown for over 13,000 yards and 84 touchdowns in its first four seasons while also rushing for over 2,000 yards and 23 touchdown. Joker makes plays. That's dynamic right there. Joker makes plays. Before the NFL, he starred. Yeah, he starred. I was going to say stared.

It's starred. I've done that a few times. Before the NFL, he starred at Oklahoma Jules. He probably was also staring at things as well in the bleachers and up in the stadium. Oklahoma. Right? Oklahoma. Yeah, they got some beautiful ladies I hear. So he was probably staring.

Yeah, that's just what I hear. All right. Back back to it. Before the NFL, he starred, starred at Oklahoma, where he won the Heisman trophy in 2018 and after transferring from Texas A&M. See, I didn't know that. Texas A&M. How long was he at Texas A&M for? I think two years?

You don't even know. Let's get back to AI. 2015. Just one year and then he transferred to Oklahoma. Off the field, Murray is known for his calm demeanor, love for video games, and the rare distinction of being drafted

in both the NFL and MLB. Fucking AI's got him like in video games. AI is on point. They are on point. AI is kind of a video game. So they definitely need to get that in. Yeah, it's just crazy. Even computers know that.

All right. What team was he drafted by, Jules? What do you, Arizona Cardinals? No, no, no. In the MLB. Oh, in the MLB? By the MLB. Uh, yeah.

Well, MLB team. Nope. Was it? All right, I'll give you a clue. They're moving in, in the next year or two, to a different state. Oakland A's. Yes, Oakland A's, your hometown. Yeah, Oakland A's.

Now my, I wasn't an A's fan, Rob. I was an A's fan. You were a Giants fan. I was a Giants fan. I was a giant fan, but the A's hat was always cool. And, I mean, I went to one A's game, and I think there was 14 people there. You want to know what's crazy is there was 14 people there.

And they went to the playoffs. Yeah, they did go to the playoffs. Wait, this year? No, the year I win. I was like a little kid. But there was 14 people there like in the last three years at every game. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, we're going to, you know, go to Vegas. Which makes sense.

You know, you're getting 14 people a game. You need to keep the organization going, the money flowing. It's a business. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, everyone starts complaining that they're moving. It's like, wait a second. Like, you're not even going. any of the games. Yeah, but Oakland, it's, it's, it's a tough thing in Oakland. You're from there,

so let's hear it. You know, the city doesn't want to, they don't want to do new stadium. And I feel bad for the people in Oakland because they've lost all their teams. Raiders aren't there no more. And, and the A's are leaving. They love their sports. It's, it's unfortunate, but like you said, it's a business. You don't know what's going on? What? Steph Curry stealing all the fandom. Well, they left too. They used to be in Oakland and then they went to San Francisco. So like everyone has left Oakland. I didn't know that. Yeah.

One did they switch? They switched probably what? Like five years ago? Really? What? Just like over the bridge? Yeah, literally. Like five miles away.

Probably like three. Three miles away. Dang, what's going on in Oakland? Marchand, come on. You got to run for governor in Oakland. We got to get,

we need you, Marshawn. Mayor would, Mayor. Mayor. Governor. I'll take mayor. I don't think there's a governor of a city.

No. There's a governor of a state. Yeah. Well, we need him to run for mayor. of Oakland. And actually, Marshall has a podcast with them.

All right, back to Kyler Murray, ladies and gentlemen. All right, here's some fun facts. AI spitting out fun facts now. Kyler Murray is the first athlete to be drafted in the first round of both the NFL and MLB.

Stud. He has a deep love for video games and is an avid player of call of duty, often streaming on platforms like Twitch. Diled. Kid is dialed. I've seen him, I've seen him shoot out a bunch of sweaty little tryhards. I've watched his Twitch stream.

Kid is good. The kid is dialed and he, I mean, he's accurate on the field. He's accurate on the map. Is he like as good as like one of those like video gamer is like, what's his name? Like ninja? You know who ninja is? Yeah, I know ninja. I know the phase plan guys.

Is he like in that level? He competes. He plays with them and he holds zone, I think. Kyler Murray kind of plays his game like after a video game too. Like you know how Madden, like the quarterback runs all over the place. That's like what Kyler Murray does. Maybe transfers. I mean, he is a video game player.

So if you're like some like 5'10 high school kid that had Madden, you would put up all the stats. You'd make your guy still 510, but you'd put all your Madden guy stats up to 99 at 510. And that's what Kyler Murray looks like on the football field. Like 99 speed, 99 arm, 99 quickness. What about his elusiveness? When we were watching the film,

you think he looks like Johnny Manzo. He does. He kind of looks like Manzell when he was in college at Texas A&A&M. They both started at Texas AMMM. Yeah, they both like run kind of straight up. They're both the same height and their feet both like pity patter like that. Yeah. But Kyler Murray is at another level of speed and elite quickness.

And kind of like take Johnny Mansell, what he was doing in college, and then you throw him on the car nose and make them into Kyler Murray. And they kind of played a similar way. Similar. Similar. Similar. Similar. I just think Kyler is in a whole other cat. Oh, 100%.

The speed. But they have the same body type. They did. Same movement. The same movement. The same sprint movement. I can see. We were watching in the sauna.

You're like, look it. It looks like Johnny Manzo. I'm like, kind of does look like Johnny Manzo. All right. One more fun fact. Despite being one of the shortest starting quarterbacks in NFL history at 510.

How tall are you, Jules? I'm 510. All right. So he's the same exact height as you. Can you imagine yourself behind, you know, the line at 510 throwing passes?

You know, when you watch his film, he's got such great. feet. He'll take like a seven-step drop out of a freaking shotgun snap and dart it. Like he has really good. I couldn't imagine it. That's why he's a one-of-one. This guy's freaky. Because like he's five, 10. He doesn't play small. He can play within the pocket, but he changes the game. He moves the pocket a lot. But sometimes he makes those big plays in the pocket because he has such an arm. I really think he's like a Madden player. He's almost unfair like when you play Golden Eye when you were a kid and someone would be odd job. Remember odd job? I do. He was tiny and he was kind of like wider. Yeah. But he would just

like crawl all over the place. And he can get in the vents. Yes. And you can never see him. And he had automatic headshot every time. Yeah, he did. Automatic head shot because his gun level was higher. So it was so much easier. He had the golden gun at all times. He was so accurate. I'm telling you. Tyler Murray's odd job, bro. Unfair. Yeah. Kyler Murray, he's accurate on the move. He has exceptional vision. Even being at 510, just watching his film. I mean, he can make every throw. He can do the deep ball, you know, lead the wide receiver so he can get underneath it. So the receiver can turn his jets on and go out and get the ball and outrun the defender. Also the back shoulder, too.

That's what I was really impressed with Kyler Murray was his back shoulder throws. I mean, half of the deep balls were back shoulder throws. The way, just how quick his feet are is just incredible. It's like, but, bo, boom, boom, like even when he's dropped. A little speeding his out. Even when he's backpiling in the pocket. But, but boom. And right when he gets like his seventh step and he plants on his back foot, boom, the ball is out.

out. And he's reading the defenders like no other and gets it out to the guy that he needs to get it out to. So he can do it all. He can do it all in the past game. Then he can do it all in the run game. He anticipates really great also because of his height. You watch him and he'll throw before a guy's out of his break. Like it's a perfect throw. Wasn't he a He a Heiseman? Yeah. He won the He won the Heism. He won the Heism. He won the He won the Heism. He dominated in college. When he was at Oklahoma, they didn't win at all, though. They weren't national champions, were they? But they were in the mix of it. They're in the mix. Lincoln Riley, I believe. right, Lincoln Riley over there. Are you a man of Kyler?

I never met Kyler before, man. Never met him in my life. Not even betting the same vicinity as him before. Usually, like, with every athlete, met him real quick or been, like, at a party with them. Like, this is one guy I just never seen. Maybe he's just so quick. I just never seen him when he was at the party.

Maybe he don't go out. He's back at home gaming. Yeah, he's playing those games. What is the Call of Duty? Call of Duty. I mean, he's on Phase Clan, I think. He joined Phase Clan, right? He partnered with Call of Duty.

He was on like Call of Duty, I think Black Op 6 ad campaign. I mean, I was a Call of Duty guy back in the day. I'm actually the guy that loves to play Del Reese, zombies. Yeah. On Call of Duty, you ever play it? I mean, I played a little zombies. Del Reese. That was a while back.

I used to run home my fourth year in the NFL, and I used to run home right at 3.30 right when we got out of meetings. I run home and I started playing zombies. And we started at 3.45 and we would probably play until about 930 at night. And like, you would get the last. level like 38 and it takes like three hours and then you get killed and then you just get so mad you would restart and then you would have to get back to level 38 and it takes another, you know, three hours to do it, but you got to get past level 38 this time. So you're like automatically

playing zombies six, seven hours every night. I was like that with like when Fortnite first came out. I mean, we all liked a game and it's a good outlet for an athlete because it keeps you out of trouble, honestly. If you go home and game, like I know he gets a bad rap and I, I, thought it was kind of crazy that they had to put in his contract. Like he had to watch film and stuff. You don't want that from your quarterback. But this is a new generation quarterback. You know what a guy does on his downtime if he gets all his work in is whatever.

That's like the least thing you got to worry about too. Like the guy's playing too many video games. Like let's put it in his contract that he has to study this much amount of film before he can leave the building or whatever it was because he's going to go home. Like imagine if the guy was going out, you know, getting in trouble. trouble out at the club till 3 a.m. Then that's a problem. I mean, he's going home to play video games.

And video games, like, when you get lost in video games, it's actually like one of the best feelings in the world. Like, when I was playing zombies, I'm telling you, like nothing else mattered in my life. Like, if I had a bad game that week, it didn't matter. I had like 400 kills. I killed 400 zombies. I'm saving the world.

Like, it didn't matter what football was going. It's an outlet for you to hang with the boys, talk with your friends, like not have to think about stuff. It's a way for you to get lost. And I understand it. So LeBron just, when he came out, he's a top 100 Madden player? I guess so. I mean, that's his claim to fame of playing Madden.

He doesn't need any claim the fame, but claim the fame of playing Madden. I don't know if he's really a top 100 player. He's never posted anything. Usually if you're that good, you're always posting. Is he posting? Rob, I think he has he posted? He posts all the time. Is someone playing for him?

I just feel like, I just feel like he's not a top 100. I bet you LeBron's dirty. Who wins? I don't know. Who wins? I think Kyler Murray wins because Kyleor Murray had a, you know, a cause in his contract that he has to study film before he can go home because he wanted to play video games that bad.

So who wins in 2K, LeBron or Kyler? Kyler. So you think Kyler is beating LeBron hands down in all video games? When you're that good at call of duty. Exactly. It transfers over to every. video game. When you're good at one, when you're the best at one, you can play every other video game. Well, the thing is, LeBron is in our age. He's my, he's like around my age. And we started with

three buttons when you're on Sega or Nintendo. That's three buttons. Kyler Murray's like 22 or something. How old's Kyler? 28? 26. He started on like, 205. So he's been using all those little fingers on all those little computers. Like, and he's probably a keyboard guy. He's like, I bet you he's keyboard as fuck. Does he have a clutch gene? He does. He does that hell Mary, right? Yeah, he threw the hell married.

D-Hop. Yeah. Does he have a playoff win? I think he has a clutch gene, but like... He doesn't have a playoff win. You can't have clutch gene in the NFL and T's... Yeah, but he has like a clutch gene in regular season. Like, he makes plays.

Yeah, he does. The clutch gene is him making plays at any given time. He does not have that clutch gene and getting that team to the next level. Yeah. I mean, you know how hard it is in the NFL to get that team to the next level. It's hard to win. It's hard to win. There's other great.

quarterbacks, other great teams out there, but he does have a clutch gene to make big plays. And you want to know something else about the Arizona Cardinals. They're not a consistent team. They're not going to the playoffs. He doesn't have a playoff win. But they're a team that can upset any other team, any given Sunday, I feel. Dangerous. They are the dangerous team.

And it's because of Kyler Murray. If everyone plays well on their team and Kyler's got it going, they're hard to beat. Going through coaching change now, you know, you're trying to redo the, The roster, revamped the roster. It's tough. They got some guys. Marvin Harrison, Jr. I love him.

I mean, those two are going to be a duel for a while. I know, but they've been struggling to get him the ball. How about that Hail Mary, the Hail Murray in 2020, COVID season. See what you did there. Hail Murray. Hell Murray. Where he went back and he threw it and D.Hop came down. And you got that picture of D. Hobbs big old hands snagging that football.

It was voted the play of the year that year. It was a nasty. Espies or something? Like what? 11 seconds left, 43 yards, you know, the throw was. And it was to what, beat the bills? Yeah. They were down by how many?

They were down 23 to 9 in the third. In the third. And they came back. But getting back to last play, what's the key to stop in a last play, Hail Mary? Well, first off, it has to be a Hell Mary because if it's not and you put a guy like myself in, then the Miami miracle happens. I mean. Open field tackle?

Yeah, open field tackle. That's not a Hell Mary, though. So let's get back on the Hal Mary. The key to defending a hell, man. My quads were hurting that day, okay? They were tired. I had a couple catches that game. It was a bad year, okay?

We won the Super Bowl that year. It's okay. Six-foot-six guy in open field with 30. That's so hard. You can't do that. I wanted to freaking tackle them, though. That would have been the highlight of my career. What do you think you had to do to tackle them?

Not slip? I kind of slipped on my... As Scotty O'Brien said, you got a scallop. Scallop and gather. Don't stop your feet. keep your feet moving and then break. Well, I didn't do any of that. Let's get back to the Hail Mary

because I've defended one of them before. And the key to defending the last second play is, first off, you've got to get like a wide receiver or the biggest guy on your team out there. That's athletic, kind of like a Randy Moss. You used to be Moss and then turned into Rob. And then turning to myself. And you just got to go up there.

You're not even trying to, you know, intercept the ball. You just want to get a hand on it. If you get a hand on it, you know, play is going to be completely over and you're trying to smack it down as well. I don't want to smack it up in the air because then it can go anywhere and then anyone can catch it at any given time, you know. Just go up, jump as high as you can, kind of try to push another defender down because they're not really going to call flag on that play. I mean, it's kind of like the known rule on a hell marry and just swat that thing.

It's hard as you can. Kind of like you're swatting a fly out of the air. Like who pshu! And then game's over. Game is, I just got an epiphany of like Rob playing beach volleyball and just slamming a ball down and someone's, face. You play beach volleyball? I love beach volleyball. You're probably nasty. You know, I got to play more beach volleyball. I don't play. Me neither. I mean, I love it. I used to play. I mean, I played probably five times in my life and I loved it every time. Beach volleyball is cool, but the thing about

beach volleyball is like the competition is always real. Yeah. Because it's not like you're going to go out there and it's going to be beginners, you know, playing beach volleyball. It's always people that are like legit volleyball players that legitimately play on a daily basis or they formerly played in college. You got to be ready. We got to practice. Like we should do one-on-one for a little bit. You keep your head on a swivel. Or else you're going to get the ball spiked right off your face. Right out of your nose. Straight, meet the fall. No, what's that movie? Uh, meet the parents. No, where that volleyball is going to become your best friend. You're just going to spike off. Yeah, cast away. Cast away. Yeah, cast away. You on that volleyball. We should put you in the Olympics in

four years, start training you for volleyball. Wow, I would do really good. Here at L. Everyone else is already, everyone else is 6, 7, 6, 8, and they're really good at volleyball. Well, why would I be on the team? Oh, I know why. I can stand on my third leg and then I'm 7-2. And then I just put my hands over the nut. You'd be a great blocker. Yeah, great blocker.

Time. All right, well, what kind of dude is, Kyler Murray? I mean, Joel, it's been 21 minutes. I know. And we still haven't gotten down to the point. Is he a stud? You know, is athleticism? It's football IQ's there.

His pedigree of the game is there. Is he a freak? which he kind of is a freak, just how fast he is and how elusive he is. He's freaky. He's freaky, 100 million percent for especially his height and what he was gifted with. Dudes do you know? Dudes do them. Didn't he, didn't he had to do a trip or something in L.A. recently?

Possibly. Yeah, a trip where I think, why, he invited like a ton of his teammates out. Yeah. Got a chef. Got some massages. Rented a mansion in Bella. Ransome. Rats in the backyard.

He's like the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Team bonding. That's, that's tight. We never really did team bonnie trips. No, we didn't. We did here and there, Montana. We would do, like, random routes. We would do random route team trips.

It was Tom just calling you up, hey, let's run some routes. It's the off season. Let's make sure we still got it and we can maintain. And it would just be out of nowhere and we would do it wherever we are. Wherever. UCLA, the freaking grass field in the middle of the woods in freaking Massachusetts. The thing that pissed me off, though, like Tom would find like a. 60 yard patch of grass that's like, oh, it's grass. We can just run routes here. And sometimes

it'd be the most uneven grass. And you're over here, like, Tom, we got a, we got a sprint on this stuff. We're like, you know, this is like put a Formula One car on a fucking gravel pit. I mean, what are we doing here? Yeah. You know what I mean? This is not what we're, you know, or a monster truck in the Grand Canyon. Yeah. Yeah, it's not, it doesn't belong. It doesn't belong. The Grand Canyon is going to eat up the monster truck. It's the only time. Monsa truck loses. But yeah, team boss. That's real.

I like that. I like hearing that. So that means he's kind of dude. Yeah, he is a dude, dude. All right. All right. Especially to all the video gamers, too. On a count of three, you say what you think he is and I'll say what I think he is.

All right. Ready? One, two, three. Whiz. What'd you say? I said freak. And you said whiz. I said whiz.

But he can only be one. So he's not a freak or he is a whiz. I mean, he is a whiz. I mean, he's a whiz. I mean, he's a dual. sport athlete. So obviously you got to be super smart to know the inside and out of both games and to be that good. I bet you he can write code. But that's freaky as well. That's free. He can write code. He plays video games on keyboard. He's a whiz. We're talking athleticism though, athletic-wise.

Yeah, he's a freak. He's a football player. But he's not like seven feet tall. Yeah, you're right. And everyone that's 5'10 is that fast and can move like that. At the quarterback position, he's elite. If I, like, if he was moving like that at my size, then that's freaky. Because of his, his athletic speed and his ability to throw, he's so innovative. He's part of that whole innovative running quarterback that like everyone's trying to get now. Brian, you convinced me, Jules, let's try again now. You ready? One, two, three, whiz!

There we go. He's a freak. No, you said whiz, didn't you? You said freak? Yeah. You did? I screamed whiz so loud. I didn't hear you.

So that means whiz wins. He's a whiz. He's a whiz. I can't mess with me like that. We'll be right back after this quick break. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved.

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Yeah, we're fair. We're fair. We're very fair. This guy, though, was never fair on a goal line play, or he was never fair on a second and ten in the Super Bowl or second in goal or second in the Super Bowl where he had to make a life-changing play to, to create and tackle Marshawn Lynch. This guy had the hugest calves I've ever seen. Next guest, Dante High Tower. Dante, High Tower.

Dante, High Tower. Julian, even I know it's Dante. I'll get into it after AI. And what's AI have to say about Dante? Because we know him. Is the AI synopsis. Obviously, I'm improving my speaking skills because I couldn't say synopsis on our very first episode,

Julian. And now I can. This is what's so great about dudes on dudes is that we're getting smarter as well being complete dudes overall. Synopsis. Synopsis. All right, here we go. The synopsis on Dante High Tower. He's a former NFL linebacker.

Dante Hightower is a former NFL linebacker known for his leadership and versatility on the field. A two-time pro bowler, Hightower, played his entire nine-year NFL career with the New England Patriots, the same amount of years I play with the New England Patriots, nine. helping the team win three Super Bowl titles, just like myself, helping the New England Patriots win three Super Bowl titles. I love this guy already. Prior to his NFL career,

he was a standout at the University of Alabama, where he was a key figure and winning two BCS National Championships. Jesus. This freaking guy is a winner. That's all I know. Five championships at the highest level. Two in college, three in the NFL over what? Over a 13, 14 year period?

Guy wins. Ridiculous. Winner, winner. chicken dinner, that's for sure. Born and raised in Lewisburg, Tennessee. Oh, the walls must not like him. I know, that's crazy. I don't know why he'd go to Tennessee.

Wow. Maybe he didn't want to go to Mayo's footsteps. Oh. Oh. Shots fired. All right. High Tower was known for his high football IQ and relentless work ethic. After retiring in 2022,

Hightower joined the Patriots coaching staff while also pursuing business ventures, spending time with his family and engaging in charitable work, earning admiration for his calm and thoughtful demeanor off the field. Oh, that's my guy. He is calm and does have that demeanor

of being relaxed, but he will rip your freaking head off. Face off. He'll bring your arm off. What's the first thing that comes from my? when you think about Dante. I'm scared of Dante High Tower, but the first thing

that comes in mind right now is I'm looking at the picture of him in high school and he looks exactly like Matthew Slater but with big ears like Alph ears. So if you can put that up, please and show everyone. He was Matthew Slater

in high school with Alf ears. I just looking at the picture. Pretty close. Slate dog. Shots fired. Chum-pum. More shots fired at our former teammates. Pum-pium.

We love shooting shots at our former teammates. Please shoot them back. We appreciate that. Pum-pum-chum. Nico Nico There's one guy who can't handle Our shots fired at him It's Ninkovic

This is about Dante This is about Yeah But Dante Hightower was such a better Linebacker than Ninkavikov He can handle our fire Yeah He can handle our shots

Linebackers But all right back to Dante All right Here's my story This guy I was scared of actually He was what First round pick New England Patriot

He's like top Top 15 or so And when you have a linebacker That's 25th 6 what is he 6 4 6-3 you know

260 and can move like he's a little guy I'm scared of those guys you want to know why because they got that leverage he's not a little guy you're just massive

no I'm scared of those he's fucking huge I don't know why I said he's 6-3 I'm scared of those big guys that are in the frame wide of of 6 you know

1 to 6 4 and are wide as well like you just said because they got that leverage and they can get underneath me and then that's when I lose and I don't like that true see I got to outsmart these guys so with Dante I had to you know try to outsmart him on the football field when going versus him in practice and that was just to not get touched by him you know try to run away from him because he was

always going to win versus me in camp I was a rookie I was coming off that ankle injury I wasn't a rookie he was a rookie I was coming off that ankle injury when uh you know that guy on baltimore broke my ankle Paulard. Yeah, very, very big. It's a patriotic killer. So I didn't really heal that well that whole year. I was at South Padre Island, spring break, my cast and everything, came back every time of my ankle was good.

It really wasn't, you know. But don't tell Bill. Don't listen to that, okay? You've done things like that, too, Joel. So that's going to make me feel better just saying that. But I can't get open. I'm not doing this well in training camp. My backs are going to go out of me because I'm compensating.

I'm just making excuses right now why Dante, you know, dominated me when he was a rookie. But this guy, when they're that wide, they're built that strong. You could just tell he had that presence of, yo, I ain't going to move that guy. No one's really going to move that guy being 6'3, 260 pounds. And I accidentally, like, caught him one time running a route. I tried going around him and, like, we caught like shoulders or something. It can't exactly pinpoint what it was. And like, it was kind of like a cheap shot on him.

But it was totally accidental. Chip. Yeah, it wasn't a chip. It was like he was at the linebacker position, kind of stepping up for the run and kind of ran into. I think I kind of facemast him or something. And then like yanked it a little bit. He turned around and he was furious.

He was vicious. What was his face like? Oh, man, he took it to a whole other level, the next play versus me. And I literally learned I will never piss off Dante High Tower ever again. You got to piss her. You mustn't do something crazy because I've never really seen him pissed off. Yeah, he was mad, man.

He was mad. You guys are a freak. You can't really block him in the run game. You can't really stop him in the past game either if he's rushing at you because he can move so well and he can get around you or he can bull rush you. So the guy, man, freak of an athlete, no doubt about that. And I swear, if you go to a barbecue with him, he'll eat like 15 pounds of like ribby steak and brisk egg burgers.

When did you see him? Whatever at those team outings that we have. And like it turns in the muscle. Right on the spot. And straight muscle. Yeah. Like, you know how the Wolverine character or whatever and like the hawk?

Like they just, you know, in those movies, like whatever they do, they just, you know, turn into the creature that they are. Like,

that's what he did when he ate, ate that food. He just turned into Dante High Tower. Dude. Well, I mean, his nickname was Zeus, which is like huge,

huge Greek guy. I remember, like, really, he was a rookie and I was already telling him that he's going to sign a hundred million dollar deal

at the middle linebacker position. Did you? Yeah. How'd you? know? Because I was facing versus him. I'm like, this guy freaking good. He good. He can move, cover, can, you know, stop the run. He can do it all. I mean, and he's scary. He looks like the predator out there because he has dreads, like early in his creed in. But when he got dreads and you're that big and wide, Dante looks like he has two houses for calves. His calves are so damn

big. He has the largest cat. I used to tell him that every day I walk by. He'd be in his sandals. We'd be walking by each other in the hallway. I see his cat. I'm like, bro, can you? you fucking ease up on the calf raises. Jesus Christ. It wasn't the calf raises. It was the brisket. It was probably the brisket. That was just go right to his calves.

Right to his calf. Right to his calf. And Dante was a smart-ass football player. Smart. Very smart football player. And I remember going to his house once. And I walked over there. And he, like you said, he's just like a, he's a quiet.

He's kind of quiet, but he's vicious. And I go to his house. And I'm like, is that a fucking video game station with keyboard and mouse? Dante Hightower is a keyboard guy in the video games? I go, what the fuck is this, bro? He goes, what, bro? Whatever, you know, he's like a whiz. He's a fucking whiz.

This guy, he's insane on Call of Duty, too. Don't let him, don't let him trick you and think he's not. He's a fucking gamer. He used to, he was really good. Well, that's why he's a football coach now for the New England Patriots. Football coach. Because you got to be smart. You got to be a whiz in order to be a coach. How you think he's doing and coach it? I feel like he's doing fine.

How you think they're feeling over there? I feel like Dante's always feeling good, man. He's never down. He's never out. He's an even keel guy. He is, man. He really is. He's the guy that had the ultimate pass from Bill Belichick. He always had... That's how scary he was that.

Coach was even scared of him. I don't think coach was scared of him, but Coach loved him. He wasn't scared of him, man. He loved him because he was a well, built football player and he played the game how it should be played. Bill always loved the defensive guys. Yeah, he did. We're offense.

That's why we never got loved, Jules. Who else had the Bill pass? Basically on the defense. We used to call Mayo. Oh, Mayo had that pass. He could do whatever he wanted to do. And Bill, that's fine, you know.

Devin Belichick McCordy. I mean, that's one of his sons. I think that's his actual middle name now. Who else was another one? In past, we mean like, you know, if they didn't want to practice or if, like, Their, you know, hamstring was a little sore. They'd be like, oh, coach, I can't.

I can't go to a coach, but no problem. Pass. Just hang out in the training room and get it rubbed on, you know? No, I was thinking more of the past. You know how Bill's been over here testing the guys around his show? Like, hey, who's this guy? Who's that guy? Well, for the offense, he'd be like, hey, Rob,

what's the exotic front of the defense that you expect to see on third and two? And Rob's sitting there, like, going through the, what the first? Oh, hey, Devin, what color is the offense that we're playing if they're at home? Green, yes, good job, Devin. Like, that's the past we're talking about. Or, like, whatever he'd give a question to, like, the defensive line, like, do these guys like to run the ball or pass the ball? They got Derek Henry.

I'm like, coach, I'm on offense. I think they like to run the ball. God. Hey, Edelman, what is the punter? What school did he go? I mean, that's the past we're talking about. And Dante got that build of Dante. And it was deserving.

Dante was, he was one of the alphas. He sat in the Teddy Bruske locker when you walked into the, I think it was either the Teddy Bruske or the Willie Mac locker. They'd always put those two guys in because when you had to walk in the locker room, he had to walk by those guys. He was one of those guys. I mean, he was a great teammate. Where would you rank him?

as an all-time, you know, Patriot player on the defensive side of the ball. I mean, he's got to be up there. I mean, we wouldn't add the Super Bowl if you didn't make that second down, that second down goal line play. That's very true what you said. We would have never won that Super Bowl. That Malcolm Butler catch would have never happened because Marshaun Lynch would have scored already.

And everyone talks about, hey, why didn't Marshaun Lynch get, you know, the handoff or why didn't they hand off the ball? Well, it was a play prior to that, wasn't it? Yeah. Wasn't the exact play before? Well, Marshaun Lynch did have the ball. And what happened? one-on-one with Dante High Tower, and you've never seen Marshaun Lynn.

Never. Go down ever. One-on-one. And literally, Dante High Tower is the only guy that can, you know, possibly do that. And he knocked him right down and he stopped him in order to... The next play. In order to get to the next play that Malcolm Butler had that interception. So they already gave it to Marshaun Lynch to have that chance to score.

So without Dante High Tower, we would have never had that, you know, first Super Bowl in New England, no doubt about him. And then another big play. that he has had, you know, in his career was that, um, strip sack in the game that, unfortunately I didn't play in because my back got blown out when I went up to seam because Tom threw me up to seam earlier that year and then I got leveled and lost a long in them back and I still came back to next year. But yeah, and that Super Bowl versus Atlanta, that strip sack man. So just continue the domination of the comeback. That was an incredible play. He comes through in the clutch at all times.

I still, who blew your back out? Earl Thomas. We're not going that deep about who blew my back out, Joel. It was, it was a dude, though. It was a dude. His name was Earl Thomas. A dude, the torpedo. Yeah, torpedo.

What was a big play that you can recall? The guy always had a big play when the team needed it. I mean, you go back into college and the national championship, you had a strip sack. That's the kind of player Dante was. Fucking, when your team needed a big play, a big moment, he was super versatile. I remember him.

He'd be middle linebacker, and we put him at defensive end sometimes because he could rush a passer. Like, he just was big-time player to make mid-time plays that is a huge contribution. Why, I have three Super Bowl rings. You have four. There's a huge part of it. I mean, we wouldn't have been there without them.

You know, I'd always call him. If you see how his name's spelled, it's don't A, with apostrophe. And so I used to call him Donta. Very technical, that is. No. I used to call him, A, Donta, and not locker, am he go. Jules, don't you fucking call me Danta. I go, why not, Danta?

He goes, because if you fucking call me all these white people out here in Boston, they're going to be calling me Danta. Don't you fucking call me Danta. My name is Dante. I'm like, all right, Donta. Jules. Jules, even I knew it was Dante. I know.

You must have had a bad day. You must have had a bad day. I knew it was Dante. Pretty hard that day. I knew. I just wanted to call him Dantah to make one of them. Time. Well, what kind of dude is he? What kind of dude is Dante?

I mean, Dante. Now you're getting me on that freaking wrong. I'm telling you. Whatever you do, if you see Dante, do not call him Dante. He'll get really mad at you. And he'll blame it on me. He'll fucking blame it on me. Don't call him Dante.

What kind of dude is Dante? I mean, he looks like a goddamn stud. He does look like a stud. He's a freak too. I mean, he's got house for calves. I feel like he's, he hits all five categories. He's a dude's. dude. He's a dude. And he's a whiz. Yeah. He hits them all. On three, let's, let's see which one. On three. Hold on. I got to think about it real quick. All right. I'm going to go. Yeah, because he's all five. So let me try to pinpoint it down to one. On three. One, two, three.

I think he's a stud. I think he's a stud. I think he's a whiz. That's why he's a coach now. He is a coach. Yeah. And he knew the game of football like no other. I mean, he's got a national championship. He has, he has five, you know, championships. Yeah, like he just said. And like he was a first round linebacker. He had a lot of

hype coming in and he backed up all the hype. He did. You like, you know what I mean? He sure did. He's a large, I mean, he's a freak too. I mean, he made big plays in big situations. He's got a pedigree. He's got football. IQ and he looks like a Greek god but making big plays in a big game is a whiz jewels because he knew

when to make that play the turn it around for the team does that make sense yeah he is like a but i would i would say though we're trying to categorize it into what like he most represents a whiz is a guy that doesn't have the freak abilities and they get through because they're so smart and they're not getting through because they're a freak or a stud. So that's how you become a true whiz. So therefore he was getting through as a freak and a stud and a dog. So he can't technically be a whiz because being a whiz didn't really lead him to where he needs to be. Maybe now as a coach.

Going back to that, I'm going to have to categorize him as a stud or a freak. So let's go back at it again and try again. Ready? One, two, three. Stod. Stampton. He's for sure a stud. 100%.

He saw his cows, you just, it would scream stud. University of Alabama. Another Alabama. Road Tide, Crimson Tad. Currently plays for the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore freaking Ravens. Is currently in talks of winning the MVP. Probably offensive player of the year.

They don't give that to running backs. It's currently going to be on the. Best rushing team statistically, right? Statistically. Statistically. In NFL history with Lamar Jackson. Are they on pace?

They got to be on pace. Derek freaking. Number 22. Henry. The Baltimore Ravens. Let's get to the synopsis. AI. Derek Henry, standing at 6'4 3 inches and weighing 247 pounds

is a dominant NFL running back, renowned for his rare combination of size, speed, in power, making him one of the most feared rushers in the league. He has a mass over 10,000 rushing yards and 98 touchdowns in his career, earning multiple Pro Bowl selections and the 2020 NFL Offensive Player of the Year

Award. In high school, Derek set the national record for career rushing yards. It's astonishing 12,1, 24 yards at U. Lee High School in Florida averaging 250 yards per game. See, I've got to read really fast because he has so many stats, I want to make sure we get through it. At the University of Alabama, Henry won

the Heisman Trophy and set both the single season and career rushing records. I mean, this guy breaks every record at whatever level he's at. I wonder what the Pop Warner stats were. We can't get there because it's just, we'll take way too long. He's got it all, though.

While he spent most of his career with the Tennessee Titans, setting the single season rushing records, record with 2027 yards in 2020. He is currently, he beat Chris Johnson 2K with that number right there. Jesus. He is currently setting impressive records

with the Baltimore Ravens, including the team's franchise record and most rushing touchdowns in a single season already, and it's only like not even halfway through, you know, this season. Henry is celebrated for his work ethic and humble personality off the field where he is involved in charity work and is regarded as a role model.

Start that clock. Start the clock. First off, I want to get to this right off the point. His nickname is King Henry. There's a guy in basketball that we all know him, know him as is King James. Who is the ultimate King Jules? King Henry or King James? Let's hear your thoughts.

King Henry or King James. LeBron is a generational guy, but if you talk about King Henry, he's a generational guy. This guy, 247 pounds running away from people. That is such a hard question. I didn't even know you're going to ask me that. I'm going, I'm a football guy.

I got to go King Henry. It sounds better. Was there King James back in the day? It's probably King James back in the day, isn't it? Is that why it's king? I just put that together. They both have kind of kingy names. They have both kingy names.

I like King Henry. I'm going King Henry. Just unnamed because it sounds, but there's a King James back there. I'm going with Derek Henry. All right. I like that pick. And what's incredible about, you know,

Derek Henry is, you know, you said that size is just impressive and how he can move, what, 247 pounds. But I swear, he looks huge. He looks massive. He's 247, but I swear he, he plays and looks bigger than he even is.

100%. It's like he's 6.3, 2, 47. It's like, no, no, no. He's like 6.6. 280 running the ball. That's what it looks like. I remember when we played against him, I walked by him after the game.

Like, who the fuck is his defensive end? Oh, my God. That's Henry? That's Jesus. He's so big. I wouldn't want to tackle him. No one wants to tackle him. I mean,

Screw at the, they say at the end of the game. I'm not tackling them in the beginning of the game. Mm-mm. I might get a concussion, getting one of the knee drives. He looks like a goddamn semi-truck that's on fucking Noss. He is a semi-truck. On Noss. Yes.

That's race fuel. That's what he is. He's a semi-truck. Like, when he sees that hole open, like he hits that button. He presses Noss. Fast and furious. Fast and furious. Go, baby, go.

Eleanor. And then he just flies right through the hole. I think he was, what, so far. he clicked in as the second fastest player as a ball carrier in the NFL this year. Recorded. Recorded. Second fastest player. I mean,

freaking ridiculous being that size. What I love about him too, man, he's a true role model, man. He never gets in trouble. Never on the field. Never off the field.

Is he in trouble? He doesn't smoke. He doesn't drink. He eats completely clean. He's basically on the Tom Brady diet. I think he's a vegan. I think he's vegan. He might be vegan.

and I'm not sure about that. He possibly could be. I mean, no gluten, you know, he cuts the sugar down. It's all real sugar and fruits and all that good stuff. He takes care of his body, does the cryotank, sonnas. He actually goes to the same treatment guy that I see as well. My friend Bobo, who's out of Nashville, he gets those vitamin bags and hydration bags

to make sure that he's always good to go, you know, on top of his games. He's always burning fuel, so he's got to always make sure the vitamins and fuel are always coming in. he's just doing everything right and that's what i love about him he's a great example to the young generation have you seen his off-season workouts on youtube yeah and i've actually worked out with him before one time one time in um Dallas Texas yes let me tell you man this guy don't get tired he don't get tired what'd you guys do for a workout and like i was with my brother my two brothers and like we were just looking at his arms and like his arm was bigger than all three of our arms combined That's why I don't understand how he doesn't weigh like 280 pounds.

Like I weigh 260 and he's 12 pounds less than me and I'm like, but your arms are three times the size of mine. Like I don't like I think he's tricking everyone. I think he really is 280, but you know in Pop Warner when they don't let you play because you're overweight. Yeah. I don't think the NFL would let him play if he weighs in at 280 at the running back position. So I think he literally is 280 because he's that big.

But they just list him as 247. So he's actually qualified. the play in the NFL. Dude. Yeah. So you're working out with what year was this? This was, I think last year, about a year and a half ago. Two years ago.

The first thing you look at you said, damn, his arm's so big. And you're Rob Grunkowski. It's the first thing I said. I was memorized. And what's another thing about him too? Like he's having this career year with the Baltimore Ravens. It looks like he hasn't aged. Yeah, he hasn't aged.

Because like I said, he does everything right. And when you do everything right and take care of your body, that you don't age he hasn't lost a step and he's just getting faster and faster bigger and bigger he has that motivation still like he's 30 years old as a running back has taken so many shots to the body and I feel like just I just feel it like he has a chip because like I feel like the Tennessee Titans you know kind of didn't give him that respect that he deserved last year you know like they were like oh we got to change up our offense all we do is give the ball to Derek Henry like they let Derek Henry walk, one of their best generational, generational talents on the offense side of the

ball in the history of the Titans. And they let him walk that easily. That kind of shows a little disrespect. I mean, it might have not been disrespect, but it just shows like they didn't really trust in him or thought his career was going down. So I think he's on a rampage to show the Titans. Hey, look what you're missing out on. You thought, oh, we got to switch up the offense because we're handing me the ball too much. Well, that's all the Tennessee Titans had was handing the ball to him. Well, it's not just the Tennessee Titans that are part of his fuel. Everyone else could have signed him. Everyone else could assign him too. The whole league could assign him. They all thought he was done. Dallas Cowboys need to run him back. They could

assign them. Oh, man, we don't even got to get into that. I mean, that's been in the news for the last month with Jerry Johns. But this is, you know, this is some like Tom Brady type stuff, you know, because at 31 at a running back, he's doing things that don't, that's not normal. This is not normal. And that's why this is so freaky. He doesn't eat sugars. He doesn't do it. He takes care of his body.

He doesn't eat any fried foods. He works out like crazy. The only thing he fries is defenses. He fries defenses. Well, when you were talking about chips, I was like, man, you know, he's a big chip on his shoulder. He probably doesn't have any chips. He probably does.

I was thinking that because those are fried. Oh, man. He's not, he's not falling in into our. Tostitos commercials. No. He sees the commercials like, oh, those are good commercials,

Jules and Grank, but I ain't eating those. No, he won't eat those. We are. He didn't need to do that. Maybe kale chips. Yeah, he probably does kale.

He does some kale chips. 247 pounds. 99-yard touchdown. That is, that's crazy. I remember watching that play. And what everyone always says with Derek Henry

when you're playing against him, I remember Bill always talking about it. You cannot let this man get going. Keep his feet moving. You got to have pressure in the middle of pocket. If you let the train go, You ain't getting on it.

And that's exactly what that 99-yard touchdown was, where he stiffed-armed the dude, still gets to speed, gives a little backwards stiff arm, still gets to high speed. It's something like you said, you marvel at when you see a person that does things that have never been done before like that. It's kind of like myself a little bit. And that's why I love the way he plays. I mean, I love all big men out there, whatever position. Do you love big men too?

Yeah, I love big men. It's dudes on dudes here. Of course, I love big men. I like big guys. Yeah, big sweaty men as well. And guys sweating because he's always running for 200 plus yards every single game. Every game. He's on pace for like damn.

He's on pace to beat the record this year. He has some of the greatest stiff arms in the game. You do too. You're stiff arm. I had a couple, but not as many as Derek County because he has touched the ball like a hundred thousand more times than myself. And he's still going. That's crazy.

And he's still going. It's like, you know, he's 21 years. old out there. The amount of times he's touched the ball and he hasn't had like knock on wood. He just has, he can last. Where does he rank in all time running backs? Oh, man.

He's got to be up there. He's got a 2,000 yard season. He's got to be up there. The reason why he doesn't maybe get the respect that he should of being like an all time great running back is because he's not a traditional running back like those other greats. They're all more like pity pattern, make five

guys miss and then shoot up. Jim Brown wasn't. He's kind of Jim Brownie. Yeah, but he's just so... Jim Brown was so much bigger and athletic than everyone. He used to swat those guys around. Eric Hunter's games a little bit different. When he sees that hole, he just hits that Noss, like you said,

and just goes right through it and runs over everyone. No one. In his way. It's just incredible how he can do that. Oh, is he like a Dickerson? Dickerson in a way. High knees, straight up a little bit. I think he could possibly end up being one of the greatest.

top three greatest running backs to ever play. All time? All time. Because if he continues this path for another four or five more years, which he has not shown any decline. Any decline at all, any at all. He hasn't slowed down one single bit. He only gets better.

And he's a different style of a running back. And he's going against littler defenses right now. Yes, he is. His defenses are all built up for the past, a bunch of receivers. I love his game because he's a big man. I love big men, man's. Yeah.

Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Emmett Smith, Adrian Peterson, Derek Henry. I mean, why not? He's this generation's great right now. Why not? He's our generation's great. The last great running back after this. McCoy's in there, Shady's in there. But like, I'm talking generational.

If he wins a championship, he's up there. If he wins a Super Bowl this year. If he wins a Super Bowl. I mean, it's so crazy that on this episode, we've talked about Madden characters. Like, you have your two, like, complete opposite Madden characters. You have, like, when you make the funny little guy on your Madden, that's, like, 99 everything, and then you get your, like, your funny big guy, it's like six foot four running back, like Derek Henry that can outrun people.

It's crazy. These guys, he's a freak. You don't see guys that big run that fast and take that much pounding and get up and do it over. and over and over. And I feel like we see a 50 plus run every year, every like three times a year with this guy. 50 plus run. Wait, three times a year.

More like every other week he has a 50 plus run. Is it not crazy? Yeah, it's crazy. He's got a huge chest as well. Like, his irons are massive, but like I swear his chest, it looks like the rock. You know, when the rock has a shirt off

and the chest goes like, boom. Like, it's that massive. He's jacked. He looks. exact same as he did, you know, in high school. He has the same frame, but like every year he just got bigger and wider and wider. Like he looked like he was six, three already in high school and just can run all day. But he's just growing and growing and growing and growing every single year.

Vernon Davis, he was saying like, he was like that as a kid and he kept on getting bigger and bigger. And his speed never got slower and slower. Like, that's like anomaly shit. I mean, he could be the. greatest running back in high school's history. Freshman year, 2,400 yards, 26 TDs. Sophomore year, 2,700 yards, 38 TDs, a little dip in the junior air with 2,600 yards and freaking 34 T's. Just to top it off, a senior year, let me just put the cherry on the old top. Let's go 4,200 yards

and 55. What though? Who is he playing? Who is he playing? He was playing 55 TDs? Because I was a Eight touchdowns a game. High school in Florida. They got some legit. They got legit. They do. Do they have record? I didn't even know they put things on records in high school.

That is fucking crazy. 12,000 yards in four years. This guy's been a freak since high school. 150 touchdowns in four years. Do the math. He's a Hall of Famer at the high school lover. Hall of Famer at the college level. And a Hall of Famer at the NFL level.

First ballot. without a doubt. It's crazy. Time. What kind of dude is Derek Henry? He's a freak. I don't even got to negotiate this. I mean, he's a freak.

He's a dog. He is a dog. He's a freak. But he's an absolute freak of nature. Heck of a player. No one can tackle him. The guy was born to run. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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Is that Billy Madison? Something like that. Back to school. Because I'm not a fool. I'm no fool. Let's go down memory lane of our college life. Why'd you choose Arizona? You know, that's a great question.

And everyone asked me that because I'm from Buffalo, New York. I actually played my senior year, actually, in Pittsburgh at Woodland Hills. But I'm technically, am. I claim myself in Buffalo. Obviously, I grew up there for 17 years. So my dad's in the business world of selling. and fitness equipment commercially in retail. And he goes on those conventions, you know, those business trips.

And he met a friend there that did the same exact thing that he does in Arizona. And that guy was Arizona alumni, you know, part of the Desert Storm Defense and all that. And when we were growing up, he became my dad's good friend. And every time they went on these, you know, business trips, they always met up. I was growing up. We were just kids. So he was in my dad's here. Hey, when your kids, biggest wildcat alumni, I loves the wild cat.

Hey, when your kids grow up, they got. to take a trip to University of Arizona. And this guy became really good friends with my dad. So you got to bring them to the University of Arizona. So then my older brothers, they were going to recruit it. They weren't at a high level. So whatever you can do. You got to call up a friend.

Hey, can you, you know, have this coach look at my son. So I actually went on the trip. So I just tagged along when I was a sophomore in high school just to see what it was like. And I got to the camp. Yeah. And I got to the campus. I was like, God, damn, man. What kind of school is this?

I mean, they got pools. I got palm trees. I mean, it's sunny every single day. It's 90 degrees. And that's when I first fell in love with the University of Arizona. So shout out to Donnie Salem. He's still doing the same thing. He's still in the fitness world, selling fitness equipment, retail and commercially.

Yeah, he's actually a sponsor. He sponsors the Denver Broncos as he's based out of Denver now. So without Donnie, I would have never been at the University of Arizona. Bricking Donnie. I went to Ken State. Yeah, yeah. Why did you pick Kent State, Jules? Like Kent State, like you're from the Bay Area.

Ken States in Ohio. I mean, I think they do Halloween really well in Ohio, but I don't think you were into things like that when you were a kid. So why did you pick Ken State? I picked Ken State. My goal in high school is I just wanted to play Division I quarterback. D1. Didn't matter where.

I just wanted to go D1. I really wanted to go to play in the Pack 10. I wanted to go to Berkeley because that's where I was from that area. And Aaron Rogers went to Butte. And I went to Juko, and he went to Brue. Berkeley after. So I kind of like wanted to go to Berkeley. Played one year at Juco, lit it up. And then all these schools started to ask him, you know, sending me letters. And Kent sent me out and offered me a scholarship after my first year. And a lot of these schools wanted me to change

positions. Kent's like, we'll let you compete for our quarterback right now. I took a trip out there. And I had the opposite thing of what you had of like, oh, palm trees. I was like, man, it's freezing out here. There's no leaves. I was coming from California where it's never really fall out here. You know what I mean? And it was like bear.

It was cold. I went to a spring practice. And I was like, fuck it, man. If I go here, I could play. I could play right away. I watched their practices.

And I was like, I'm going here. Fuck it. It's the best thing to happen. I'm going to play in the cold. Mm-hmm. Ken State going flashed, baby,

let's go. Did you have any other offers? Not after that one. Not yet. No, just Ken State. Just Ken State. But you're going there no matter

or what? Ken State. Well, I still had another year of Juko. I had another year of Juko. Oh, you could have played Juko. I had one more year Juko. Yeah, but you were paying for Juko, right? Yeah, but it's like 500 bucks.

So what? It's $500 you didn't have. You would have to take out a loan or a free ride. Yeah, $500 a month from the school. My pops took care of that one. That's a good pops right there. Shout out the pop. Did you have any other offers?

Yeah, I had a couple other ones. My top four was Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse, because it was right down the street, about three hours away from Buffalo and Arizona. So those were my top four schools. And I had actually had the wildest recruiting visit to the University of Clemson. I had one of the best times. I mean, shout out to my host.

I don't even know their names out there, but they're probably telling the story to this day still of those guys that were on the team that hosts me at the University of Clemson. What's this story? I mean, I remember I was on a bar. I was dancing. And then, like, I don't know, there was cheerleaders there. And I was just going ham. Like, I usually go ham.

Like, that's all I wanted to do. Like hammered off like Apple juice. I'm talking. Yeah. Apple juice hammered and it was great time. I had a voicemail after I picked the University of Arizona like some girl that night, I guess I gave my number to like literally left a voicemail on my phone after I picked the Wildcats.

I was like basically just told me how bad I messed up with my decision. Yeah. I'm not going to exactly say what the voicemail was, but I was like, this is incredible. I thought I was so cool. Yeah. Ohio State. Ohio State was awesome.

Right there. I was hung over off apple juice there, too. And that picture that went viral when I was in high school and took a visit there, I was definitely, you know, a little apple juice out. Look a little rob. And I was at the game. Let me tell you, Ohio State, Clemson, you can't beat their facilities, you can't beat their organization, you can't beat the crowd, you can't beat their stadiums.

But it just wasn't my fit. And if you know me personally, I'm not a guy that can get intrigued by that type of stuff. I'm a guy that sticks to my roots. The University of Arizona was where I belonged. You know, I felt at home there. I felt like I could go there and play right away. And also at the same time, I knew if you did well enough, if it was Division I, you're going to go to the NFL.

Like, there's guys going to the NFL at Arizona. So I was like, I can get to the NFL still. So it wasn't like. It's still D1 program. D1, I wanted to be part of a team that turned it around. I like Coach Dupes. Ohio State, though, I mean, I was blown away about everything. But at the same time, I was like, I could have all this if I make it to the NFL.

And you did? Yeah, and I did. Did you almost get kicked out of Arizona? Arizona at all? I never really have. I mean, we got in a couple big fights. I would probably say that was the closest to getting kicked, you know, off the team. Yeah. But there was a big, huge fight. There was like 10 guys involved. Like I got brought in like three days later by the police officer that was investigating it. And he was actually on our side. And later that I didn't even like open my mouth. I didn't tell tell on anyone. I was like, I don't even know what fight you're talking about. And he's like, no, I'm here for you. I'm on your guys' side.

But still, I'm like, I don't know, man. I was just walking by and I don't really remember much. Grunk, no rat. No rat. No rat. No rat. You did believe to the roots. nothing bad to say.

I belonged to the University of Arizona. I belonged to Kent State. I loved Kent State. It opened up my perspective to the country. I mean, it was a great, the people of the Midwest and Ohio, northeast Ohio. are such awesome people. They love football out there. I was just always disappointed because I went to Kent State and everyone would leave our game to go watch the Ohio State game.

Like we had no fans. If Ohio State had a game during the same time, people at our school, at every school in Ohio, love Ohio State. I didn't realize how big it was because, you know,

I grew up in the Bay Area where, you know, we had Colin Stanford, but it was really a pro sport area. We had Niners, Giants, Warriors, Sharks early in my life, you know, came in there. And Call and Stanford were big, but it wasn't huge.

And I didn't realize how big college football was until I went to Ohio. And I saw how big Ohio State and that fan group was. It was freaking crazy to me. Here's a question. I've always wondered this, because Ohio State's so big. They get 100, like 10,000 plus people a game. And you're, you know, you went to school in Ohio at Ken State. is Ohio State the football program out of all football programs at any level in the state of Ohio?

Does it dominate the Cincinnati Bengals? Without a doubt. Does it dominate the Cleveland Browns? Yes. If you're in Ohio, you grow up in Ohio, it's all about the Buckeyes or is it about the Browns or the Bengals more? Buckeyes, number one, guarantee. You could go anywhere in the state. Like you go down to like Cincinnati and you can see this in like gas stations or you go to like cracker barrels.

that are all over. They'll always have Ohio State shit. They're selling Ohio State mugs, this, that. You go to like the West Virginia part of Ohio where it touches down there. You see nothing but Ohio State. You go up to Dayton, which is a different area, like near Indiana and stuff. They love Ohio. They love Ohio State everywhere in Ohio.

I didn't understand it. It's huge. Did you ever host any recruiting trips with any other NFL guys? No, not really. So when I was at the University of Arizona, they didn't allow me to host anyone. Why? Yeah, I hosted one player. And we got chased by a helicopter.

No, you didn't. I swear. What do you mean you got chased by a fucking helicopter? We got chased by a helicopter. I hid under a car. Yeah, and this recruit was running around with me. There's a top juco recruit. I thought I definitely sold him.

I thought he's definitely coming to the University of Arizona. He didn't? No, he ended up going to Arizona State. Never seen him again until he goes Arizona State. I was like, I thought he was definitely going to choose the University of Arizona. Like I was like, and then, and then I'm on the Patriots, like 2016 or something. I don't know what year exactly. We signed some guy on the practice squad midseason, a lineman.

He comes up to me. He's like, yo, Greg, remember me? And like, you know, back of my mind, I'm like, I do, but I don't. Because I've never seen him again. He left after that night. He was gone and chose Arizona State. Big time recruit. He's like, yeah, you hosted me at the University of Arizona.

And then everything just started clicking. And I was like, oh, my gosh. I was like, how are you doing? How you doing? He's like, I'll remember that night for the rest of my life. But I can't believe he went to go be a devil. Yeah. I mean, he can't be, he can't set foot in Tucson anymore because a goddamn helicopter

will chase him. He had to go to Arizona State. The message of the, you know, message of the story. We should write a movie off that hangover. That's like a hangover shit. It was basically we were at a party and got broken up. And there was always a helicopter that broke it up and everyone started running

and just the premises of the of the stories, the helicopter followed us. So then I was like, oh, fuck it. Yeah. This guy's a lineman. I was like, oh, screw this. You're fucking Rob. Yeah.

But we got away. We got away. Scott free. They help my skills, help my football skills on the field. If you can get away from a helicopter, you can get away from a defender. Yeah.

Well, that's been another episode of dudes on dudes. what could we do better next episode? Let us know, guys. We want to hear from you guys. We do. What can we do better? What do you think? We want to know.

I've been trying to, you know, scroll through the comments of what we could do better. And just everyone keeps saying how good we are. So I'm like, I don't know if we can do anything better. What do you think? Oh, oh, no,

no, there is one guy out there that thinks we can do things better. Who? Rob Minkervis. Oh, Rob? Just always crapping on us. Always crapping on us. Always crapping on us.

He gives us a little shameful hate for DMs. Yeah, he does. And the DMs don't even make sense. I'm like, you know, Nenko, like, you're trying to make fun of us because we're not, you know, technically super smart like you. And your whole paragraph you send us makes no sense. No periods, no commas, nothing. I mean, where does he, when does he have time to write? You have three kids.

What are you on Instagram all day? I hit my box and all of a sudden I see Nikovic in my goddamn inbox. I'm like, what the fucking... I thought of you as a family, man. It's 11.30 at night. Don't you have three kids? This guy's at a freaking... Is he walking the dog again?

At a charity party every night. Yeah. He's walking the dog just to tweet at us. We'll figure it out. No, I know what it is. Page is walking him. Yeah, so then he has time because he's a dog. The owner's not really paying attention to you when you're on a leash

because you know you're on the leash. You're good. Now, instead of giving an oboe and she gives him his Twitter. app? Yeah. Or is Instagram app? Here, you can go tweet at Robin and Jules. You can go give them a hateful tweet.

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