Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Bill Belichick: Birthday Spectacular

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

Happy Birthday, Coach Belichick! In honor of today being Bill Belichick's birthday, we're dedicating a full episode to celebrating the greatest coach of all time. It’s such a special day, we&rsq...uo;re releasing this episode a day early! We break down some of Bill's greatest moments and coaching decisions. We do some UNC recruiting talk. Rob & Jules tell their best Bill stories. We finish it up with The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, here we go again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? Each week, I'm calling up my friends, like Bill Nye, Lily Singh, and Pete Buttigieg, to talk about everything from the space race to movie remakes to psychedelics. Put another way, are you high? Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Cal Penn on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:36 The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News keeps you on top of the biggest stories of the day. My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day. Stories that move markets. Chair Powell opened the door to this first interest rate cut. Impact politics, change businesses. This is a really stunning development for the AI world and how you think, about your bottom line. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:10 The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Michael Lewis here. My best-selling book, The Big Short, tells the story of the build-up and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. A decade ago, the Big Short was made into an Academy Award-winning movie.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Now I'm bringing it to you for the first time as an audio-border. narrated by Eurus Truly. The Big Short Story, what it means to bet against the market, and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, is as relevant today as it's ever been. Get the Big Short now at Pushkin.fm. slash audiobooks, or wherever audiobooks are sold. Happy birthday to you. You should have gave me more money. Coach Bellich.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Happy birthday. to you. My favorite Bill, though, was Bill at the Rousseau, man. I loved when he ripped on me. My favorite one that he brought to the table about me was talking about how he had that famous
Starting point is 00:02:51 slogan, Do Your Job. And then he begged me on the stage in front of millions of people to stop doing my job on the NFL pregame kickoff show. Like that shit was funny, bro. Welcome to dudes on dudes, I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Grancowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes
Starting point is 00:03:12 get to crack a beer open and talk about their favorite dudes. And today it's a very special Bill Belichick birthday spectacular. And that's why we're cracking tons of those beers. We need a lot of those for this. What are we talking about today, Robbie G? We highlight the top Bill Belichick moments on and off the field. I was just starting to get a little bit out of control. So, you know, he had to tamper me down a little bit. You got to put the muzzle on old gronks sometimes. Yeah. We do some recruiting role playing.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Sounds spicy. I played in the biggest division in high school in Texas, and you're telling me I'm not a smart football player coach? I look to never hear of your name again because you probably won't make it in the league. And we'll even hear from some of Bill's pals. Oh, a couple pals? And then we wrap it up with the chillest dude of the week, presented by Cores Light. Favorite beer?
Starting point is 00:04:07 Let's go. Woo. So, Dude on dudes is a production of I Heart Radio. Hello, everyone. This is a special surprise Wednesday episode. And today is no other. Thank the great
Starting point is 00:04:28 coach Bill Belichick's birthday. Happy birthday coach. Legend. Best NFL coach ever. Now the head coach. of a college football program. North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:04:43 A mediocre college football program that they are suspecting him to take to the next level. And University of North Carolina should be at the top of one of the best Division One college football programs out there. Beautiful campus, beautiful stadium, beautiful geography, green trees, the Carolinas, great weather, beautiful women, beautiful men, just everything's beautiful about the University of North Carolina. But over the last, you know, decades, the University of North Carolina football program has been just subsidized. You know, it's just been average. It's not like you hear about them being in the top 10. They produce some great players like Drake May, but this is why they hired
Starting point is 00:05:32 coach Bill Belichick to bring them to the Promise Land. And now it's his birthday. So we're promising. him a happy celebration for his birthday. Let's sing to him, Jules. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. I'm sorry. I just took from that your birthday, coach Belichick. Happy birthday to you. I'm sorry. I just took from that your birthday singing to Coach Balochek is that you will not be giving him a present because still in your mind, he still owes you a lot of money. I understand. I want to give him a single dime either if I were.
Starting point is 00:06:16 No, I love coach. I just fuck with them with that whole thing. I know. That's what we got to do. You got it. You got him. What would you give him for his birthday? When I was playing for him, a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:06:27 A couple TDs. Yeah, a couple TVs. But too bad his birthday is April 16th and not during the season, Julian. We would always, do you, I remember in like, O.T. You'd always always kind of remember it was his birthday because the media would bring it up. Remember like a passing camp or something? It was usually like that's like the first week of OTAs or something. It'd always have a little spark of Bill's birthday and he'd have a shit-eating grin towards the media.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And just his little whip of his whistle walking around knowing it's his birthday. Mm-hmm. Fucking old coach. Like it's my birth, like to the media. That's my birthday, but it's really, don't ask me anything today. That's probably what he would want for his birthday. No questions from the media, even though he's a media butterfly now. He was like a calipillar when he was in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:07:19 and then all of a sudden he just blossom, and now he's a media butterfly. No, he's a butterfly. Yeah, it's a good point. Holy crap. That was a good one, Rob. What was the best birthday gift you ever got? Oh, a bike. You know, it was when I was a child.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I loved biking around, but I was always. using my brother's bikes and they had a mountain bike and I always stole it from them and then my birthday came and I got a bike it was the best gift I could have possibly gotten and then growing up as a kid I mean I biked everywhere I was probably biking you know 10 miles a day on average to my friend's house that were all over the neighborhoods you know to this grocery store wherever I just love biking so much that when I got my first bike it was the best birthday gift ever dude I agree with you a million percent I got my specialized fat boy I actually redid it up And it's, I remember going to the bike shop.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And there was a certain amount of bikes that I could pick from because there was a certain amount of money. The one I wanted, I want a GT Interceptor. Those were like the sick bikes. They were too expensive. My dad wouldn't let me. So I got this specialized fat boy. And I got it over in like the blimp pile where they have a dent in it or something. There's something not manufactured to code for on the bike.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So it was like 30% off. So I got like the sickest blimmed bike they had. And it was a specialized fat boy. And now my daughter, I got that on my birthday. My dad went and got that. I was so excited. Now my daughter is riding it. And she fucking loves it.
Starting point is 00:08:49 It's so fucking cool. You know, it's crazy. Like I ride, we're driving in the car. And my daughter, Lil, she'll see kids riding their bikes to school and stuff. She's like, oh my, like, because it's not a lot of people out here do it. Like when you were saying, you wrote a, around everywhere on your bikes. I was going to other cities on my bike.
Starting point is 00:09:09 We were, when we were 12 years old, we were fucking rolling around our cities on our bike. Like miles. Like, I have an eight year old now. Like when I was eight, I was probably going to like San Carlos.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I would never let her go anywhere. Never. But, you know, but she's so infatuated with like kids riding their bikes to school. I feel like it's almost kind of like, it's dying. At least from what I see in the areas that I'm in in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I don't see kids riding their bikes to school. Locking it up. There'd always be a boatload of bikes at the school member. Well, nowadays, you got the motorized bikes, which. Oh, a little C-RON. Those are great just to go for a cruise. I can't lie. I got a rad power bike in Tampa that's just the best.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I cruise around just everywhere on it. I even go to my workouts on it. And then you also got like the mopeds and like the scooters. Scooters that are electronic as well. No one really rollerblades as well anymore. Rollerblading, was kind of cool when we were growing up and getting a new fresh pair of rollerblades
Starting point is 00:10:10 for your birthday was super cool. But rollerblading kind of, you know, fatted away as well. I mean, the bike industry, I feel like is way more booming than rollerblading. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 But rollerblading was cool. Got those glutes going. You know, I want a rollerblade against, you know, thinking about it. That'll be a good workout. But you were a hockey kid. Like, that was different.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Like northeast, you guys are, I didn't roller, I didn't. You got to try it out. I skateboarded, dude. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:10:34 You got a rollerblade. Oh, you're a skateboarder. That's kind of the same thing. I was a jock that hung out with skateboard kids. Or rollerbladed. That could do like a kickflip one in seven times. And like I could do a heel flip probably one and four times.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But I hung out in the skate community. But I couldn't skate. I'm a skater. Like I used to have the rollerblades. I was a blater. You were a brink. And I love playing. From Disney Channel.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You love that movie? Brink. Never seen it. Yeah, dude. Let's go. I was a mighty ducks. Oh, I love the ducks. I was a mighty ducker.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I've watched that. Knuckle fuck. What was crazy is I got to meet Keenan Thompson before in like in the last year and I just thought it was super cool because he was the knuckle puck guy. Yeah. Oh man. He's killing it. He's still on SNL. Like I've been on SNL for like 30 years. Legend.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And he was also in heavy weights. Mm-hmm. Like he's bit he's on a on a low key. He's like on some Kyle Ripkin shit. Usually child actors. I mean, look at Goldberg. I seen some I see some mud shots of Goldberg. It's not looking good for old Goldberg.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You know, and he was in a bunch of those movies, too, as a young kid. Goldberg was the goalie, right? Yeah, he was good, though. I like Julie the Cat. Oh, Julia, the Cat with the Glove Save. Glove Save. Because Lily likes Julie the Cat. The cool thing about Mighty Ducks is, and even though they were made years ago, they still
Starting point is 00:11:55 had a girl in there, which when you have a little girl, like, they always gravitate towards the girl characters. I mean, rightfully so. But like a lot of the movies like Sanlott, no girl. Like a lot of these like sport movies. But like then you look at a inside out too. Little girl go to hockey camp. So she fucking loves it.
Starting point is 00:12:16 So I don't know. What about Johnny Snomi? Johnny Sonami. There was a couple girls in there. He had a love interest. Yeah. Love Johnny Sonami. We're going to go through some of the reasons why Bill Pelichick is the greatest coach of all time.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Let's get into it. Yeah, let's do it. What are some moments that come to mind for you? my favorite moment is when he kind of first kind of cussed me out in a funny way in front of the team, you know, just kind of making me an example. It was probably the best possible, you know, way to do it as well. It was kind of like a gronk example. Like going into my second year, you know those production meetings you do? So I did one with Scott Zolak.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah. And Scott Zolak is the ultimate hype man. He gets you going. Oh, he's gaslighting you. Yeah, gaslighting me. Just gaslighting me. And I'm just taking the bait. Taking the bay.
Starting point is 00:13:10 He's got me hooked. He's just reeling me in. And I'm in the production meeting. This is just a preseason game going into my second year. He's like, God. Like, how many guys just take you to tackle you? And I'm like, oh, all of them. 10 guys actually, 10 guys on the defense it takes to tackle me.
Starting point is 00:13:32 so then, you know, we're just messing around. Clearly it doesn't take 10 guys to tackle me. Well, someplace it does, you know, depending how good I'm feeling. But, you know, and my answer kind of wasn't wrong either because it doesn't. No, it takes a lot of motherfuckers to bring this big dog down. Yeah. And Coach Belichuk loved not, you know, giving any info to the media or...
Starting point is 00:13:52 He didn't want you to hype the other team up. No, or hype yourself up and, like, make expectations that aren't reachable, you know, in the media. You know, keep it melancho. I'll keep it more low key. And there I am, it takes 10 guys to tackle me. So middle of the game, you know, I catch a pass, whatever. And Scott Zolak as the announcer of the game, I talked to Grankowski in the production meeting.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And he told me it takes all 10 guys or 10 guys out of 11 out on the field to tackle his ass. And then what does Coach Belichick do? He puts that little clip up on the screen the next day on Monday. And he makes an example out of me. He goes, oh, Oh, Gronk, it takes 10 guys to tackle you. You know, he does this whole little display. Just calls me out in front of the team and just makes me an example.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Didn't he show like three blocks you missed or something? Yeah. And then he shows, it takes 10 guys to tackle you, but you're doing this and this. And you missed a block here. You missed a block here. But you're telling everyone it takes 10 guys to tackle you. How about you just shut the F up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And it was funny. He had the whole entire team laughing. I was laughing. It was cool. but, you know, I did learn from it as well. That was his way of getting at you. It was. Like, if you hyped yourself up, oh, he would, he would read it to the team,
Starting point is 00:15:13 and then he would just show you like the seven worst plays you did in the game. And we all have them. You know, you all have bad plays. You brain fart, you this, that something happens. You slip. He humbled you in the best way possible. He humbled you through your play. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Through facts. And you know something, though? If you did talk a big game and you backed it up, he leaves you alone. He leaves you alone. He does. But for an example, he made an example out of me because I talked a big game, takes 10 guys to tackle me. And like, I miss like five blocks that game. So he's going to, he's going to pound you.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And you're also a rookie. I didn't back it up. I was going into my second year. Or say, yeah, you were young. And I was just starting to get a little bit out of control. So, you know, he had to tamper me down a little bit. Yeah, you got to put the muzzle on old grunks. sometimes, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But that just made me want it even more. I just remember, there's a couple things that come to my mind moments of Bill. One is the him throwing the flag, the challenge flag, such disgust and like he threw it out. Him with the on to Cincinnati is like, we're on to Cincinnati. And the thing is, that's what he's kept on saying to us in the goddamn team eating. He's like, look, we're on to Cincinnati. We're like, we just said that for like 10 minutes in the media, Frank. Bill
Starting point is 00:16:33 I get mad at He's kind of like a dad figure He's kind of like a dad figure Bill is so I understand Yeah and so Makes sense And then I remember early on in my career When YouTube was just coming out
Starting point is 00:16:45 I fucking I Google or a YouTube bill And I found like the video of him Making a peanut butter And jelly sandwich in Cleveland And he and I just remember him And I thought to myself He puts peanut butter on both sides of
Starting point is 00:17:01 on both breads and he puts it in between because he doesn't want it to, he says it locks it in. I said the jelly to peanut butter ratio is so dorky. Who is this guy? I just remember I was like a rookie. I were watching that thing. He did his little thing where he goes on both sides.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I was like, who is this dork? But he was a smart guy, I guess. It actually worked because I tried it and the jelly doesn't come out. You just said who is this dark? You go, I guess he's a smart guy. Jules.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It's his birthday, man. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. There it is. Look. I have a very special guest today. His culinary skills are legendary.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah, this is kind of dorky. My very special guest, Coach Bill Belichick, the BBPBJ. A.BPBJ, what is that? Bill Belichick's peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Oh, goodbye. I see we have all ingredients here for you. BBP and his mom like that. Let you go.
Starting point is 00:17:59 BBPNJ. Make the sandwich. Well, we'll start with the raisin bread. Why raisin bedroom? Well, my mother used razor grid. Oh, mothers are divine, aren't they? Oh, they're just the best. She made the best one.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah. Oh, and chunky peanut butter. That's quite an advanced technique. Well, it has a little more crunch to it, and that really gives you a little extra energy. But the key to it might get to spread peanut butter on both sides of the bread. Oh, why? So the jelly doesn't bleak through in the sandwich and put the jelly right here. Hold on. Stop it real quick.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I just want to say this is why Coach Balochick is one of the greatest coaches of all time, because he pays a test. attention to details. I mean, this guy's making a peanut butter and jelly and he's just laying down all the facts and all the little tiny details why it's going to be so great from going from the raisin bread to why he's using crunching peanut butter and all that other good stuff. Keep playing. I get to spread peanut butter on both sides of the bread. Oh, why? The jelly doesn't leak through. So it doesn't leak through. But the jelly right here. Another coach tip right there, which is forward thinking like that. See, it's kind of like his teams. They may not be sexy. They may not look good. By the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:19:00 it's not leaked through. The jelly's not going to leak through. This jelly won't leak through because of the peanut butter on both sides of the bril. Lips are sealed inside the facility. It's like the jelly trying to get outside of the bread. It's not going to. It's sealed. Sealed.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah, that's one of the things I remember of coach. I remember looking at that as a young player because I mean, we all knew who Coach Belichick was and, you know, especially early in our career. He still had three Super Bowls. They were the New England Patriots. But I wanted to see something because I was so intimidated and so scared of them.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Like I wanted to find anything, and I found that video, like second or third year, first, second, third year in the league. And I was like, oh, my God, who is this guy? Mm-hmm. How do you, you know, refer to Coach Balochic? You know, obviously in the facility, you call him coach. But outside of football now, that we're retired. Coach. He's not in the NFL anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Do you still call him coach every time you talk to him and refer to him? He's still coach. Yeah. I mean, I agree. Anytime that has to relate to football, 100% He's always going to be coached to me But sometimes I see him or refer to him as just Bill It just goes smooth with it
Starting point is 00:20:07 You know, it just goes along with it But he's still always going to be coached like you said Bill Bill, you know, Bill when he's being funny You know And like on the roast, that's Bill. That's Bill Belichick. No, but we were all there
Starting point is 00:20:19 So he's kind of still coached. After 14 our Super Bowl We were in a designated area together his party and I had some of my party. He took a shot with us after we won. That was like the first time. I was like, man, that's, that was like the coolest thing ever. Because he kept it so professional and so like,
Starting point is 00:20:39 he let you know that he was there for business. And this was a production business. To see a little bit of the outside for the first time in like a non-professional environment, that was like awesome. Well, let's talk about some of his coaches. decisions that, you know, that helped develop him and make him into one of the greatest coaches or if not the greatest coach of all time. And this is really one of the reasons why
Starting point is 00:21:08 he's the greatest coach of all time. Yeah, he got us prepared every single week. He knew the defenses, you know, what type of plays to call, like what type of formations to call, the personnel and all that. But a lot of his coaching decisions played into the factor of why he is such a great coach as well. Like ineligible formations versus Baltimore, the playoffs. I mean, without those play calls, we would have probably never gained that momentum that we needed in order to win that playoff game, which led us to our first Super Bowl that we won Julian in 2014. And on top of it as well, the trick plays that he installed as well during the week and let, you know, offense accordion McDaniels call them as well to just give us that well-needed
Starting point is 00:21:51 spark. So what even happens? Can we like go over that again? because people ask, why is Coach Belichick, you know, that much better coach than everyone else? And I always bring up this formation, how he made Who Man eligible as a tackle. Baltimore and Raven. But why was the guy that lined up in the slot and who was it that was ineligible? Shane Vareen. It was Shane Vareen. He was ineligible in the slot to the right.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah. And he would come back like he was getting a pass and then we would throw it over there. Yeah, this was, I mean, this goes to the point of like, oh, you know, a lot of people don't think Coach Belichick's collaborative. I believe he probably talked over with like Nick Saban about this because it just happened in college like two weeks before and saw if it was applicable to our rules and regulations of the National Football League. And that's the kind of guy he is. He does his due diligence. And if something is out there, he'll use it. I mean, and this is a clear indication. But I think some of his geniuses in some of those games, remember like the win game that he had two win game
Starting point is 00:22:56 There was that Buffalo game that we weren't a part of where they didn't even throw the football. And they actually kind of had a baby win game too with Mac Jones. But that one with Matt Castle, I think. It was 2008. They didn't throw it all. And they won the game. Had Randy Moss, West Welker.
Starting point is 00:23:14 It was like hurricane wins. And then also remember when we were playing against Denver, Wes Welker came back for this first time playing against us. They went up like 24-0 at halftime. We ended up bringing it back in, and he took the wind at the overtime, not the ball, because the wind was such a pivotal factor of the game. I remember that. And I remember a lot of people, that caught a lot of headlines.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I sure it. But what about the win game? I wasn't part of it. I'm pretty sure you were still on the team when I think they passed the ball two times. No, that was the year before me. That was the year. What do you mean the year before you? That was in 2008.
Starting point is 00:23:54 No, I'm talking. I think 2021. That was win game two with Mac Jones. I wasn't there. Mac Jones. Okay, so you weren't there. Absolute crazy wins in Buffalo. I'm talking about like, how dare you throw the ball?
Starting point is 00:24:08 And the bills, they threw it a couple times and they completed a couple passes. But New England threw the ball just three times and they ran the ball 46 times for over 220 yards and they ended up winning that game 14 to 10 and you just saw that, you know, Coach Belich's smile after the game. like, yeah, I just outsmarted you with all my coaching decisions.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So that just proves a point once again when he knows to stick to a game plan, he sure does as well. Well, you know, is in-game intuition or is in-game insight. He was feeling it. But even you could look to the 2014 infamous Malcolm Butler interception play. You see him on the sideline looking at Pete Carroll the whole time. seeing it like i thought b floe was looking at coach bellichick to take a time out because of the whole situation and bill like sat there and it was like some fucking beautiful mind shit he's like
Starting point is 00:25:03 reading formulas and looking at pete carroll and he's like nah don't don't call it throw in that one and they runs in fucking the personnel group where it's all like linebackers linemen and two dbs or whatever they put in i don't have the play call but then you know And that whole thing goes. Like that was a huge decision to make in one of the biggest moments that turned into something good. There was countless decisions that we saw. You know, and then there were some that, you know, went the other way. I remember my rookie year in 2009 when we were playing Indianapolis and we went forward on fourth and two,
Starting point is 00:25:44 we were up like, it was pre-analytics. So everyone's like, what the fuck is going on? Bill Belichette. We were on our own like 48 or something, and Peyton Manon was playing. We couldn't stop them. Like we jumped out to an early lead. We got a couple turnovers, I think.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And then by the end, we couldn't stop them. It was only a matter of, we couldn't give him the ball back. So Bill's like, we're going to try to win it right here. We ended up losing it. We didn't get it. We threw it K Falk and he was like a half yard short. And then they go on and score and win. So like, he has balls to make these decisions.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And like, he makes a wrong decision it doesn't go his way he knows what to do the following time he doesn't make the same mistake twice and that's how he coached players as well like if you made a mistake like he would coach you on it and he wouldn't want to see you make the mistake again and that's you know that's what kept him happy as well that's what kept coach happy and and he really liked you as a player if he coached you and then you did it the right way the following time yeah you're going to make mistakes and he understands that but once you get coached you better you know do the right thing on the field and same with him and he would not make the same mistake twice.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah. You can make mistakes. Just don't make them twice. The same one twice. And if you do make it twice, just make the mistake like kind of in a different manner and to get away with it again. And coach, you know, for coach not like being, everyone's all kind of terrified of like, oh, he's no fun, this, that. Some of the greatest players, like Randy Moss wanted to play for Coach Belichick. How crazy is that?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Like, and Chad Ocho Cinco, who was a jokester and had his full personality that you knew what Chad Ocho Cinco was, Bill loved him. Bill loved guys, it didn't matter what you, Rob Grunkowski, he drafted Rob Grunkowski, literally was Yo Soi Fiesta. Like, he didn't care what you did as long as you did it well. You know, if you played well, he didn't care. But if he knew, like, your silliness. was affecting your game and wasn't helping you play well, he would get on you. Oh, he'd get on you. But if he knew your silliness was making you play better, he would amplify the silliness in a positive way.
Starting point is 00:28:00 He really would. He wouldn't amplify it, but he wouldn't be a grudge against it. He would be like, oh, he's playing good. Like, that silliness is working. Let's keep it going. Yeah, well, it wasn't silly when he kept a six-round Brady over a $100 million quarterback Drew Bledsoe. Like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:19 take some nuts like some squirrel nuts. That takes some. Yeah. That is nuts. It is. And he did, like, even when you, if you go back and watch it, I mean, they, they go to the AFC championship. Tom got a high ankle sprain.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And Drew came in and played lights out, didn't he? And Bill's like, fuck it. We're going with our young buck. Like, that was nuts. I mean. What about, what about playing Troy Brown at CornerB? and another guy I know, you, Jules, that cornerback as well, just to have that instinct, knowing that, well, look at this guy's talent, look how he plays the wide receiver position
Starting point is 00:28:58 game. Like, I feel like he can play corner as well. Let's try him out. And it works. I mean, just incredible. That's just, you know, based on his ability to read a player, which he was, his instincts as well like that, which were just very high. Well, that means North Carolina's going to get some good evaluation, huh?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Mm-hmm. They sure are. And now that he's a college coach, talk. talking about North Carolina Jules. Bill is going to have to do some recruiting. You're going to have some recruiting, huh? Mm-hmm. Even though he's the greatest coach of all time,
Starting point is 00:29:29 you still got to sell those Gen Z kids there, coach. Gen Z are tough. You got to. You got to sell them. How much you're paying them? They want to know the highest bidder out there. They want to know how many Instagram followers you're going to get them, Bill. That's maybe why he's so good on social media now.
Starting point is 00:29:46 You think they have rules, nothing in the facility still? Like, like, I haven't done any detective work on their players. No, no. I think they probably, you got to have like a players lounge with the games now. That's part of being in, you know, the college atmosphere. So I think they got like the ping pong table, probably cornhole, pop a shot. Can they, can they social media in the facility? No, no, no, no social media in the facility.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I don't even like that rule. That's like saying like, hey, like come in our personal space. Like, no, I don't like personal space out there. I agree. Yeah. So, no, I agree with that rule. Definitely no social media inside the facility. Like, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Like, imagine, like, showing someone, like, playing ping pong, like, inside the players lounge. Like, that's not cool. Like, everything that goes on there should stay in there. That would be my rule as a head coach. I don't see him as a recruiter. I mean, I think he's handling this, like, like, a business. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:45 He's going to, he's going to go for guys that, like, free agency. Hey, you want to come here? I think his pitch to the kid is, I'm going to get you ready for your ultimate dream. If you want to come here, here's the price. If not, it's a numbers game. And there's a lot more numbers in college where you can pull than there is in free agency of the NFL.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So I bet you he's pretty like, I don't know, though. I want to go to North Carolina. I'm going to say, hey, hey, coach, can you give me a, can you recruit me? Give me the recruit pitch, coach. just want to sit in one of the meetings. I'm sure if you went to North Carolina, he would let you. I just saw David Andrews there, actually, and he gave a great speech to the players. And I love that introduction that, you know, that Coach Balochic gave to, about David Andrews as well, undrafted player, a couple pro bowls, right, team captain for so many years. It's just kind of like
Starting point is 00:31:42 showing that, hey, it doesn't matter where you come from. It doesn't matter, you know, if you or a two-star athlete, if you're a one-star athlete, if you're a five-star, you know, you're always going to get an opportunity to be great, and it's what you do with that opportunity. And that's just a prime example with David Andrews as well. And I saw Rob Ninkovitch there as well. At the campus, I didn't see any film on Ninko being there. I just saw some pictures, so obviously Niko hasn't been that big of an inspiration like David Andrews has been.
Starting point is 00:32:12 But that's all right. That's Rob Ninkovitch for you. He just likes to be part of his show, likes to be there for the pictures. How many little jabs does he send to you on social media? That's all he does. That's all he does. Well, that's why I'm jabbing him right now. Every single time he writes me something, he just jabbing at me.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I don't even see it. I just get like one of someone on the coasts like, hey, you see what Nico said? I'm like, what did Nico say? I love it, though. I love it. Nico got me so good on one of his comments. So good. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:32:44 I forgot. I'm going to have to look back. It was really good. He does look good. Niko looks good in the powder blue. I mean, talking about, like, doing stuff for, like,
Starting point is 00:32:54 your facial hair. Like, Ninkovich is, like, the ultimate guy to make sure his facial hair is on point. He's taking whatever pill he needs to take to make sure that facial hair is growing in, and it's trimmed the right way.
Starting point is 00:33:06 He's got hair, all that good stuff. And it's sure paying off for him. And it looks good in that baby blue as well. He looks like Zangip from Street Fighter. We'll be right back after this quick break. Here we go. Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask,
Starting point is 00:33:27 why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me. answer my burning questions. Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08? Is non-monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lili Singh, and Bill Nye.
Starting point is 00:34:04 When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go again with Cal Penn on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them. And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war 2.0 is only accelerating the process of de-dollar rights.
Starting point is 00:34:46 which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in, to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented. Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story. The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing. They are.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Explain that. Why is that the case? and unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsize indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:35:51 went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her,
Starting point is 00:36:30 or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said it. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little bit different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Rufus Weymruhe, Remy Wolf, Mark Reb-Bee,
Starting point is 00:37:56 Mavis Staples, really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season, including the powerful psychedelic duo Black Pumas, my old pal and longtime songwriting friend Jesse Harris and the legendary Lucinda Williams. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this segment, I'll be playing a little bit of Bill Belichick. Rob's going to play a five-star recruit. And I'm going to try to get Rob to come to Chapel Hill. And we're in Rob's five-star. family's living room.
Starting point is 00:38:40 All right. Yo, Cove, man. What up, man. I'm here only because you're the greatest coach of all time. UNC, not even that great of a program. You know, Alabama, they are offering me $2 million straight cash in my pocket. How much you got for me? And also, you got to take care of my family.
Starting point is 00:38:57 If you ain't taking care of my family, I ain't coming here to UNC. I know you, I know you the greatest coach. But, hey, talent outworks coaching all the time. I'm a five-star recruit best in the nation. what you're going to do about that coach what are you offering me look okay the number's 1.8 but coach i got offered two mill from alabama go to alabama look if you want to get your second contract you're not this isn't real money this isn't going to take care of your family real money's going to come in the national football league where are you going to get your best opportunity
Starting point is 00:39:34 to become your best pro i'm a five star i can go to any school and make it to the pros. I coached Lawrence fucking Taylor. Okay, they didn't even have an amount of stars I could give him. You think you're a five star? Okay, 1.8, sign the deal. Lombardi will send over
Starting point is 00:39:54 the fucking contract, all right? And if you don't, I look to never hear of your name again because you probably won't make it in the league. Well, coach, if you get me, I'm a five star that's going to attract other players. I'm telling you, offer me the most money. We want players that are smart, tough football players that perform under pressure.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And if you're not one of those, go to Alabama. I played in the biggest division in high school in Texas. And you're telling me I'm not a smart football player, coach? Look, I'm telling you, you're not going to be lining up against some kid from fucking cappuccino high over here who is never going to lick a football in NC2A. Okay? This program right here is a building foundation. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Look, I'm just telling you a foundational program that'll give you what you need to go and make real money in the national football league. If you want that, go to Alabama, okay? I'm just telling you. All right, coach. I like what you're saying. You humbled me. I'm going to come to the University of North Carolina for you, coach.
Starting point is 00:41:05 and I expect to see that second contract no matter what now. See in camp. Give me that bad cash. Jordan, was that good? That's kind of what he would Honestly,
Starting point is 00:41:27 I don't think he would even go for a guy like that. No, he wouldn't. He wouldn't go for that guy. No, he wouldn't. The character that I was playing, he wouldn't even like bring into his office. He'd be like, nah, just let him go. He would want the five star that's a humble guy.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Unless that guy was a defensive tackle that fucking is a problem. Or he would take that guy that's or a DN that looked like if he had any kind of resemblance to LT. But if that was like a flashy skill player, he'd be like that's too many problems because that position has just too many eyes on it. But if it was a guy like that that I was representing that played D tackle, like you said, defensive fan. I think he'd actually pay to maybe linebacker.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah, yeah, he would. He would. Yeah. Actually, we just did all that for nothing. Not a flashy position. Well, no, then we explained it after. Yeah, yeah. No, we did it all.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That was good. That was good. We got to go there. Yeah. Should we go? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I want to, if I go, though, I don't want to go and do all the kitten caboodles, cameras. I want to go see what his actual operation looks like. Okay, I want to go sit in a staff meeting. I want to see how he's breaking down the goddamn coaches. I want to see how he's breaking down the goddamn day before the day even starts. I want to see what he talks like in the team meeting. I want to see what he's doing during the team meeting and the offensive defense breaks up. I want to see the walkthrough.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I want to see the walkthrough to the drills. I want to see the drills to the seven-on-seven to the team periods and the overall competition periods at the last bit of practice. That's what I want to see. I don't want to just see some fucking guy over here just trying to be a social media, a butterfly. I want to see that. fucking whistle being twirled around to choking his little fat
Starting point is 00:43:14 finger. You're getting me fired up, Jules. That's what I want to see. Mm-hmm. If you want to go out here and do all this bullshit and let's record a fucking speech and let's try to get a recruit. I don't want, don't even ask me there. Mm-hmm. Don't even ask me to go. Let's go to UNC. Here we come.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And we just put the expectations out there of what we want to see. Yeah, the U.S. Jules broke it down. The UNC frat boys have been blown up, dude. You know, everybody. always says Bill is no fun. Bill's actually one of the funniest dudes of all time. So let's take a look at some of Bill's best moments off the field. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Well, we already talked about it. We're on to Cincinnati. We talked about how that was just one of his moments where his just instincts were there and how he was like that in the team meeting or after he talked about, you know, said that to the media after the game as well. So that was not just a serious moment, but it was also a funny moment looking back at it to this date, you know. And it was coming off of a 41-14 loss to Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:44:15 So it wasn't that funny at the moment. It kind of like gave us that refreshing moment like, yes, we don't have to relive that loss on Monday Night Football. We really are on to Cincinnati. Yeah, that was funny. I also think, you know, him referencing my cousin Vinnie during a legal investigation for the organization. saying I'm not the Mona Lisa veto of the football world. I mean, that's pretty comedic. That's called comedic timing.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I mean, his comedic timing, that's what it is. It's his timing. Like the timing of when he wrote down on a napkin, I won't be the head coach of the New York football Jets and leaves it to the jet. That's timing. Okay, he's not necessarily a funny guy with what he talks about or how he says it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He has timing and he kills you with facts. He does. You're right. You hit that right. on the money. Or his just his Zach Gillesonofanophis. What is, that guy? Gallophonacus, like two ferned.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Like this dude over here, in draft room with fucking Nike, the dog, running around, just him and Nike. And you take a look at like Cliff Kingsbury who's in like crazy stupid love mansion, like crazy mansion. You see McVease. He's over in like some cool like modern house, mansion, babes at the pool.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Bill's got his fucking dog in the back of Quincy looking at fucking boats, not even, not even on the water that are like. Well, respect to Nike. He drafted Kyle Dougler, was it? Dougger, I think the 37th pick overall. Dugger is good, too. Yeah, Kyle Dugger, great player. And Nike drafted him.
Starting point is 00:45:58 That was Nike. Man, Nike. He's, but he's funny. It's a good boy. No, my funniest times, every time I smiled and just chuckled to myself and the team, meeting rooms when coach bala check brought up the social media names like he'd be like my space well why are we on my space my face or my face snap face or insta chat he'd fuck him up on purpose like why are we posting pictures after the game on insta face like get off insta face and like every time he just combined like two
Starting point is 00:46:31 social media names and put him together just like made me just brighten up inside it was always funny as hack when I was a kid yeah when you're a kid what I know when I was young football player rookie they had a Halloween party you were a kid still Randy had it he threw a Halloween I wasn't cool enough to go to the party yet but they had a party and when he showed up as a pirate with his date that was pretty funny that was a that was a comedian costume that was a comedian costume um my favorite bill though because it's like Really brought everyone together once again and like It'll keep us together for life was Bill at the row
Starting point is 00:47:15 So man, I just loved what he brought to the table I loved when he ripped on me my favorite one that he brought to the table about me was Talking about how he had that famous Slogan do your job and then he begged me on the stage in front of millions of people To stop doing my job on the NFL pregame kick off show. Like that shit was funny, bro. Funny. I was in tears laughing when he got me with that one. It was so good. And like you said, he's so good with his timing. Timing. Whenever he just lays down the wood on a joke. Timing delivery. Like his delivery is kind of funny too because it's a dry
Starting point is 00:47:56 delivery. It's like, hmm. Yeah, look. Let me let's look here. That's good. We'll be right back after this quick break. Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again. We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08? Is non-monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lili Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Cal Penn on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:49:16 The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them. And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is, jargon four people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story. The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing. They are. Explain that. Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsize indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:23 It's what I've been told, and that to have truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little bit different, but it all involves music and conversation
Starting point is 00:52:31 with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Rufus Weymruhe, Remy Wolf, Mark Rebbya, Mavis Staples, really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season, including the powerful psychedelic duo Black Pumas, my old pal and longtime songwriting friend Jesse Harris
Starting point is 00:52:56 and the legendary Lucinda Williams Lizana Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now we're going to answer some of the most requested questions we get all the time about Coach Belichick. And we'll answer them once and for all. Let's do it. You remember the first time you met Coach Belichick?
Starting point is 00:53:25 Not really. They tell you the truth. Oh, actually I do. Yeah, it just clicked actually. It was at the combine. Yeah, when I walked into the room, when you're doing the pre-draft, you know, visits at the combine with the teams. And there was Coach Belichick when I walked in and interviewed with the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:53:41 It was about a quick five minutes, you know, the Bears was there. A couple other guys were there. But, yeah, that's when I met him, you know, nothing, you know, spectacular that stood out. But I just remember going in there and just getting, you know, questions real quick at the combine. How about you? Do you remember the first time you met, Coach Belichick? I don't. I was like a seventh round.
Starting point is 00:54:00 So, like, it was kind of like just show up and here's your shit and your schedule and you figure it out. And like, I remember the first time like we encountered each other was like on the practice field when I was catching punts with Kevin Falk. And he was teaching me how to catch a punt. He says, you catch a punt with your legs, not your feet, your arms, Edelman. You got to get your feet right. So it gives you a two-way go. See? That is a great coaching tip.
Starting point is 00:54:28 That is a great coaching tip because every fan out there is like, you got to catch the point with your hands. That's what everyone's saying. Use your hands, but really. You got to know where it is with your feet. Coach Belichick knows, you know, he's a step ahead of you and knows more. And he's telling Julian that you got to catch it with your feet. Yeah, obviously you use your hands to catch it.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But if you have your feet in place and under you, like you were just saying, it's going to make it a lot easier to catch the point with your hands. Yeah. Yeah, great coaching point right there, Jewels. I just learned something, actually. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Like, it's true about receiving, you know, as well. Like, if you're going up and your feet aren't under you and you're all over the place and you're going up to make the catch, it makes it harder to catch the ball if your body's not lined up. The reason he was explaining the punt in the feet is because you have to read the tip of the ball, depending on what it is doing at the top of the arc of the punt. Now, if the ball doesn't tip over with the right-footed punter, it's going to die and go right. so you have to get your feet there so you get a two-way go. So if you read it right with your feet, then your hands are going to be there.
Starting point is 00:55:35 If the ball goes over, if it, instead of, like, if it tips over, then it's going to go far left and you play it on your right titty and it gives you two goes. So like that's what he was talking about because you're reading,
Starting point is 00:55:50 it's like baseball, you know, you're reading where the ball's going. And so you don't do it with your arms. You do it your legs because your legs are going to bring you to the area. Great points. When do you think you earned his trust? I would say I earned his trust.
Starting point is 00:56:09 My second year in the league in training camp, when he gave me a parking spot up front, I was one of the training camp heroes or whatever was called training camp MVPs. I'm not exactly sure what it was called when he did it back in the day in order to earn the parking spot up front. And I got that my second year, you know, going into the season throughout training camp.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And right when that happened, that's when I felt like I gained his trust. He believes in me. I got the parking spot up in front of the parking lot, you know. It was a privilege, you know, to earn that. And that's when, you know, it truly felt like I earned his trust as well, you know, to get that parking spot. Because parking spots were huge. It was like walking like 50 feet less into the building, which that 50 foot actually, Sucked.
Starting point is 00:56:57 It sucked. It sucked. Yeah, cold days. Yeah, cold days blue. What do you think you earned his trust? Never did. Oh, that's a good answer. Um, nope, we'll leave it right there, Joel.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I know you gained his trust, but I like that first answer. He knows what I'm talking about. You know what I'm fucking talking about, but I'm still mad about that shit. When did you piss him off the most? Um, you can't say never did that one either. Yeah. I know you piss them off plenty of times. times.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Oh, how about when you got in fights on the practice field? That pissed him off all the time. That pissed him off, but I don't think he got really mad at that. No, because he liked your aggressiveness. Yeah. And it's kind of like when a, you know, like a coach gets tossed in baseball, to get a little spark to the game, the guys. Like, I would get tossed in practice because there was a flat fucking practice.
Starting point is 00:57:48 We needed a little spark. Mm-hmm. We needed a little spark. Mm-hmm. So he actually kind of liked that. I think once it was in, I think it was like mini camps. Remember we, remember when he fucking, we started doing those bout runs and he stopped, he stopped mini camp practice and we had to do like two bout runs in the middle of practice
Starting point is 00:58:10 and then go up and do like NASCAR and I was like dying and I, I was a little pissed at it. I was, because like our load was getting high. I remember he got mad at me for, because I kind of, I kind of gave him a little. lip. I gave him a little lip on it. I was like, we're trying to execute out here, dude. We're not getting anything done here. We can't even get lined up. We got a fucking guys don't know what we're doing. Just shut the fuck up, Edelman. Kip running. What year was this? It was probably like 15. Remember when we started doing those bouts? We did a bout run. We were, we started doing these bout runs to get our fucking load up or conditioning. And he decides in the middle of a practice.
Starting point is 00:58:54 blows the whistles, all right, we're going to do some conditioning. We had to do a full bout, which is three-minute runs. You have to hit 785 yards in three minutes. You got to touch down back, down-back, down-back, down-back, down-back. You have three minutes of full running, and if you don't get $3.85, you don't pass. And then we had to go do NASCAR after, which is no huddle. So, like, we were fucking trashed. This would make me want to run.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah. I'm like, dang, I'm not in shape anymore if that's what we were doing. When was the most human moment you had with them? Oh, most human moment. Like for me, his most human moment is when I remember when I got suspended. Like he, and I got hurt. And he kind of, he could see that I was hurt
Starting point is 00:59:41 for letting the team down. And he kind of had, he kind of, I don't remember how, but he felt like he had my back. You know what I mean? That's a good feeling. You know what I mean? I do. And that was like the most human moment I had with him.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I would say. His computer. When I tossed, yeah. When I threw that guy out of the club when we played the Colts. Yeah. And then I went up to him on the sidelines. I didn't even say any words to him. I just started dancing in front of his face.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And he loved it. Loved it. And if you're getting a fucking penalty, like a personal foul penalty he hated that shit. And I got a personal fall on it too and he loved it still.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Now that's a human moment right there. Because he just, you did your job too good. Yeah. And you can't get mad of the guy for doing his job too good.
Starting point is 01:00:41 You're right. That's a great play. I did it too good. You did your job so good where you drove the guy literally to the back of the end zone. Yeah, that's why he loved it. Personal foul for doing your job.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Because coach is always in the film room. They'll say shit like that. Like, this guy should be with the fucking cheerleaders with how he plays. You should block him into the cheerle. Gronk literally blocked him into the cheerleaders. He got a 15-yard penalty on it.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Oh, that was so funny. Love coach. Love coach. What was the best advice he gave to you? I mean, he always gave great advice. You know, thinking about it, to this day, I didn't truly understand it when I was 21,
Starting point is 01:01:25 22, 23 years old. But he always, you know, I always stuck back in, you know, in back of my head. But he always exemplified and made point that nothing good happens past 12 o'clock at night. That's true. He always reiterated it. And now thinking about it to this day, I use that line all the time. I'm like, why would I go out at nighttime? Nothing good happens past 1 a.m.
Starting point is 01:01:56 let's party during the day you know and it was a great point party during the day can't get in trouble during the day I bet you he's gonna use this he better use this to show all his unc team you know what I mean this is marketing right there
Starting point is 01:02:13 get bears on there who's his guy Chris Matt's Rob and I had a lot to say but we wanted to give some of ours and Bill's other friends a chance to wish him a happy, happy birthday. Roll the tape. Special birthday shout out.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Happy birthday, Bill. I hope you have a great day. Looking forward to catching up soon. Enjoy it. Happy birthday. Maddie P. Hi, Bill. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Go heels. Great to see Ernie. Happy birthday, Bill. We had a long streak of your birthdays together. So, bummed not to be there for this one, but thinking of you from afar. Happy birthday. Bears! What a guy.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Hey, coach, hope you're doing well. Just wanted to wish you a happy birthday. I hope you get a chance to take a little time and celebrate with family and loved ones. Appreciate you, coach. Always will, always have. God bless you. Happy birthday. Slater!
Starting point is 01:03:15 Captain Slate. Hey, Bill. Happy birthday. Hope you have a great day down there in North Carolina. I remember all those great birthdays we celebrated both yours and mine back in the day getting ready for the draft and going through draft meetings. And I think when you sent me a message the other day on my birthday, I think you said you're going to need an entire fire department to put out the candles on your cake. So don't worry. I'm going to send you a little bit of backup.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Scotty Pee. What's your guy? Pioli. Oh, Pioli. Wow, incredible. What a legend. A lot of people indebted to this guy. To this guy.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Before we get to the cellos, of the week. I just want to say, Coach, happy birthday, man. I am forever indebted to you 100%. Thank you for everything that you have done for me in my playing career. Thank you for drafting me to the New England Patriots. It was the best fit for myself. It was the best fit for my family. It was the best career move that could have possibly ever happened to me in my whole entire lifetime. So Bill, thank you very much and thank you for all the coaching points and getting me ready on a weekly basis. And thank you for all you know, clever jokes as well that made me giggle throughout my career too. I'm going to start shedding a tear, grung.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Geez. Thanks. Happy birthday, coach. Happy birthday. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate everything. I'm indebted to you, too. I mean, we all are. We all.
Starting point is 01:04:40 You discovered us and you let us be a part of, you know, the game that we love. And you got to teach us the game that we loved at a high rate, you know, and let us experience it with you. It's been unbelievable to be part of his story. And, you know, it's a happy birthday, big guy. Happy birthday, brother. And win some fucking games to make me look good because I always have your back.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And I want to see a picture of you posted on one of his IG accounts or social media accounts of him in his birthday suit. That would be pretty cool. Birthday soup, Bill. It's a birthday suit. Let's get into the church. chill is due to the week brought to you by our favorite beer Coors Light get Coors Light
Starting point is 01:05:27 Delivered straight to your door visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. I got you, Jules. Blue 40s a hut. Jules wide open for a touchdown. Graves the Cori's Light. He cracks it and he is as chill as the Rocky Mountains. The chillest dude of the week. Obviously, Bill Belichick. Yes. What kind of dude is Coach Belichick. This is easy. I don't even think that we have to go over the, you know, categories of what kind of dudes, you know, coach Bill Belichick is. He's kind of a dog. Yeah, he is. I think we are. Yeah, he, I mean, yeah, but that's just off the field. Or maybe he has to be a whiz to get all that. Yeah, that's on the field. That's the way I was
Starting point is 01:06:17 leaning towards more. Obviously, yeah, Bill's a fucking whiz. No doubt about it. Not even, it's not even a debate. He's definitely not a dude I'll tell you that right now And he ain't no stud I mean If he's a freak He's a freak without anyone else knowing Oh not us knowing
Starting point is 01:06:36 Yeah Not us Yeah I mean like you said he's a dog a little bit now No he's a dog But he is but not a dog Not a full hundred percent dog Nah but he's a whiz
Starting point is 01:06:46 We love you coach you're a whiz Whiz Stamp it And that was the chillest dude of the week Thanks to our favorite beer Coors Light. Thank you, Coors Light. Get Coors delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Remember, celebrate responsibly. Well, that's been another episode of dudes on dudes. Subscribe on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Amazon Music, wherever you listen to podcasts. Comment a dude you want us to do and remember, rate and review, call in and ask questions on the chill line. That number is 561-203-5-7-8-9. Those are so fun. We love answering the questions.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Remember to follow Dudes on Dudes on YouTube, Instagram, X, TikTok, and Snapchat. Put a bunch of comments in there. We like communicating through it. We'll see you guys next week. Dudes on Dudes is a production of IHeart Radio. For more podcasts from our podcasts from IHeart Radio, visit the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down. Unlock Elite Gaming Tech
Starting point is 01:08:11 at Lenovo.com. Dominate every match with next level speed, seamless streaming, and performance that won't quit. Push your gameplay beyond performance with Intel Core Ultra processors. For the next era of gaming, upgrade to smooth, high-quality streaming with Intel Wi-Fi 6E, and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking. Win the Tech Search. Power up at Lenovo.com. Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, here we go again. We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? Each week, I'm calling up my friends, like Bill Nye, Lily Singh, and Pete Buttigieg,
Starting point is 01:08:51 to talk about everything from the space race to movie remakes to psychedelics. Put another way, are you high? Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now. But my goal here is for you to. listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go again with Cal Penn on the Iheart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News keeps you on top of the biggest stories of the day.
Starting point is 01:09:18 My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day. Stories that move markets. Chair Powell opened the door to this first interest rate cut. Impact politics, change businesses. This is a really stunning development for the AI world and how you think about your bottom line. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:09:47 The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to... good people in small town. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, ad free,
Starting point is 01:10:21 subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.