Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Emmitt Smith

Episode Date: June 27, 2026

We're covering legendary running back, Emmitt Smith! Gronk and Julian Edelman discuss what made Emmitt so great and some of their favorite stories.Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Documentary is all by your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard. Listen to Here's the Thing on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Jules, let's get on to our first Thanksgiving guy who has plenty of Thanksgiving ties through the NFL. Let's get on to Emmett Smith. Emmett Smith. Running back, Dallas Cowboys from Pensacol.

Florida. Let's see what the synopsis of Emmett Smith says from the great AI, ladies and gentlemen. We need 10 minutes. Amid Smith standing at 5 foot, 9 inches and weighing 221 pounds. That's a big boy for 5.9. Gee. Oh, Molly. What are you? You're 510. What? 198 was my playing weight. Man. I was big, though. That was thick. Yeah, he was even thicker. He's 2C thick. He played running back in the NFL primarily for the Dallas Cowboys. and later for the Arizona Cardinals. Drafted 17th overall by the Cowboys in 1990 from the University of Florida.

Smith quickly established himself as a durable, high caliber player known for his resilience and gility on the field. He retired as the NFL's all-time leading rusher with 18,355 Russian yards, 164 touchdowns, and earning three Super Bowl rings, all with the Dallas Cowboys, an MVP award and induction. into the pro football Hall of Fame.

Was he first ballot? First ballot for sure. Was he? Was he first ballot for sure? 100%. 100% he should have been. And here's a quick fun fact. Emmett's pregame ritual included eating two packs of peanut,

M&Ms, making him one of the most efficient candy-fueled athletes ever, man. Now that might be the most impressive thing about his career. And I wonder if he ate those peanut M&Ms on Thanksgiving Day after Thanksgiving dinner or if he indulge into some like pumpkin pie instead or some apple pie with some ice cream and whipped cream with a cherry on top? Or did he love those peanut M&Ms that much

that he wanted sacrifice even on Thanksgiving? What do you think? I think it was probably, it became a superstition thing early on. I mean, running backs in their candy. You got Marshon with Skittles. You got Emmett Smith with peanut Eminems. I mean, it is what it is.

These guys are sometimes, like most of the time the running backs specimen that just needs, fuel and they can eat anything they want because they're running and getting blown up all day and they're touching the ball a lot. What's the first thing that comes to your mind when you think of Emmett Smith? One of the greatest running backs of all time exemplified what being a star really meant, especially being on the Dallas Cowboys. Like he was that star symbol. Yeah. You know, when he was playing with Dallas. Yes, that is, that is true. Jerry Jones did say that, but he really did exemplify it that much.

He exemplified what being a running back truly meant. They truly ran the ball and ran it with, you know, conviction. Yeah. With resilience. And also he's like one of the first guys to truly start that era of everyone wanting to be a running back growing up. Here's the thing. No one really wants to be running back anymore.

It's, it's two thousand 20s. And it's all about being a wide receiver, quarterback, tight end. Back in the day when it was Emmett Smith, Everyone wanted to be all of running back. Everyone. 100%. Even myself, and I knew I wasn't a running back. I mean, Emmysmith is huge.

When I think of Emmett Smith, I just think I think of the Cowboys and I didn't like them. I didn't like him because he was so damn good. I was a 49ers fan. And this was priming like when I was watching football in the 90s. And they were just so good. Him, the triplets, him, Aikman and Michael Irvin. And it just seemed like that off, he would low you to sleep. behind that offensive line. He'd get lost behind the line. And I just hated him because he'd always beat us in candlestick. It didn't matter. Cowboys were always beating us except for 95. Peanut F&M's. Did you have any superstitions before games? What was your pregame food? I had a pregame ritual. I think I remember you just eating hell of pasta. I did eat halal pasta. But there was also the peanut butter and jelly made with my mom's jelly. That was always a routine. I had to do every single.

Sunday to get me prepared and get me, you know, mentally right that I was on the right track and kept the tradition going of always having a PB&J with my mom's homemade jelly. And then on top of it, a chocolate milk, man. I love chocolate milk to this day. And I just felt like, you know, getting that protein in my system and the carbs. What better way to make the tradition sustainable with my mom's homemade jelly? I'm telling you the best jelly in the game. Did you hear that going around The uncrustables in the NFL. There's like 7,000. I heard PMT and the boys talking about it.

It's crazy because peanut butter and jelly has always been like the athlete snack. Like you need a little quick calorie burn down. You need some calories, a couple protein, some sugars and bread, little fuel right before you get a PBNJ. Throw a little honey on there for a little Nass, a little extra sugar.

That's what I would do as a kid. What jumps out when you watch Emmett Smith's tape? I mean, he was a solid receiving back as well as being a great runner. I mean, he has a strong upper body. you've seen defense alignment bounce off of them. Yeah. Like he can go into a hole and it looks like he's surrounded by five players. And all of a sudden he just has that killer stutter step with the backstep propeller.

And then he's out of that freaking like pile of dudes. And he's running it to the outside now. And then he's kind of like a rabbit out there. Like all these dogs are chasing this rabbit. And none of these dogs can get the rabbit. And the rabbit is just playing games like silly rabbit. He's just, you know, eating the carrot while he's running around. everybody, but that's what made him so special too, man.

Like, no one can get to him. And that upper body strength along with his ability and his footwork and just his versatility is what truly made him that special and so hard to take down. What do you say? Who do you, who'd you hate going against? What kind of defensive ends? Well, shorter, shorter stocky. What is Emmett Smith?

He's a bowling ball. He's just got built in pad level, man. That is what it is. You'd watch him get behind the offense line. it seemed like their offensive line was fucking gigantic. And, like, he would sit there and be patient, and then he'd have the quickness to jump cut and then hit the fucking hole,

make someone missing the second level. He always had long runs. And that's what, like, I always think of Emmett Smith. Just a little patient runner, patient runner, play behind his pads low, see the hole, hit it and go. And, like, man, did he do, he did it better than a lot of people. He was the best running back when he retired. He had all the numbers.

I remember that. What did you think of when he went to Arizona? You know, I don't really remember too much when he went to Arizona because he exemplified being a cowboy, you know, so much. He has insane records, that's for sure. He has the most career rushing yards with over 18,000 yards rushing. He has the most career rushing touchdowns at 164. Is that beat now? He did at that time.

Is that beat 164 career rushing touchdowns? There's players that have more than 164 career touchdowns, but not not rushing touchdowns. And he has the most the most career rushing attention. attempts as well with over 4,400 too, man. That's what's almost even more impressive. Because what's the number right now that everyone talks about? Running back has about 400 carries and then they get hurt. That's 10,400 carries.

36 fumbles on touching the ball 4,400 times. That's insane. You know, he didn't have like the wow speed. He didn't have the wow, like stiff arm, but he was always just always productive. He had the wow lateral cuts. Yeah, but when you think of lateral cuts in this generation, who do you think of? One of the guys that we'll be talking about a little later. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Oh, wow, wow, whoa. We'll bleep that. We'll bleep that. Well, bleep it. How about the Emmett Smith game? Oh, man, when he, you know, popped out his shoulder and he just kept going. Well, he went in the locker room for like, what, a minute or so, went to the sidelines, wherever he went.

He just came back out and played rest of the game and had like, what, 15 plus carries? Against the Giants. Do you ever remember playing someone banged up and having a ball out like that? Like I was banged up? Yeah, you were banged up. I mean, I never had it to the level of Emmett Smith where he could barely even move his shoulder. And every time he fell, he was practically screaming on the ground, but he just kept going, going and telling himself that he's not in pain.

That's a football player right there, man. You think he got shot up? I don't think so. I think he definitely got Lightikin right up in their shoulder. He put that needle right direct inject right in there. But if you watch the game, you could tell, man, he's in pain throughout the whole game. Yeah, you're still going to feel a little something. I've done it.

I've shot up that shoulder a thousand times. You can still feel it, but it just takes the edge off. No, it's kind of numb, but then like you'll feel crackly and stuff. You're like, what the fuck?

I mean, I can recall, you know, the AFC championship game. It was not like Emmett Smith story, but I went up to seem. It was versus the Baltimore Ravens. It was my second year in the league.

I was having that wonderful year, and I caught the ball on the Bernard Pollard. It was kind of a hit draft tackle. Yeah. And I swear, like 90% of the time on hip drop tackles, the player does get injured that's getting tackled. I mean,

you're just not properly made to fall down that way with someone falling on top of you. If you're falling backwards and someone's on top of you, no problem. But your body's not made for someone to fall on top of you when you're landing on your stomach or on your chest. And that's what happened. Got tackled.

He landed on my ankle, it twisted. And I had a super high ankle sprain. Went in the locker room, got it taped up. And literally I had the same mindset. Hey, I'm not in pain. This is the ASC championship game.

I may never be back. If we win this game, we're going to the freaking Super Bowl. That's what, you know, you're just dreamed of as a kid. So I had to go back and I'm telling you the shit hurt. Yeah. He's hard. I took a, it wasn't light of cane. It was the Tor, it all shot, you know, right there on this spot.

I don't think it really did much because, you know, a high ankle sprain. You're in a lot of pain. I mean, I went out there. I was limping a little bit. No more catches But some serious blocks To get us to the Super Bowl that year You end up how

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That crazy snowstorm game. Verse Tennessee? When you guys won a 59-0-0? Yeah. I was still at the University of Arizona. I was in the fourth quarter I got to play a bunch being a slapstick, slap dick back then. Caught a ball and Vandabash fell on me and I broke my arm. I snapped my forearm and I look over to Ivan Fiers at the sideline.

I go, coach, I think I'm hurt. He goes, stay in. Stay in. We ain't got no one. That's a football coach for you. I'm like, all right, all right. And then freaking Hoyer threw me the ball. Like the next drive, I caught a ball with a broken arm.

It was fucking crazy. And I come off and I'm like, chatty, I think I broke my arm, dude. Like, he's like, oh, well, I think everyone's kind of out right now. I'm like, yeah, all right, whatever. Let's do it. And so play with the broken arm. That sucks, bro. I mean, it's bad ass.

It's bad ass to play through an injury, but it does suck, man. It hurts. It hurts like a mother effort. It's part of the game. The guys, the greatest players like Emmett Smith for this situation, when they're banged up, they find a way to be productive and they adjust their game to the deficiencies with their injury and they still go out and ball. That's what makes a great player.

And Emmett Smith was a fucking guy that did that with the shoulder game. What about him? Most all-time rushing yards on Thanksgiving Day as well with over 1100 yards. I mean, Turkey Day. He owned it. Most rushing TDs on Thanksgiving 13. Jesus. His best Thanksgiving was.

about 29 carries, 155 yards, and three touchdowns in 1996. He's a three-time Super Bowl champion with the Dallas Cowboys, and he helps secure back-to-back Super Bowls. And they were both blowout wins versus my hometown, the Buffalo bill. People still talk about those losses, how the bills went to the Super Bowl. I think four years in a row. Was it three or four years in a row? I was only one years old, two years old, three years old, four years old.

But it still hurts the city of Buffalo, that Emmett's, Smith put that big of a pounding on them. And a huge shout out to Jimmy Johnson, Michael Irvin on the team. I mean, what a solid team they had, man. And Troy Aikman, was he the quarterback? Troy Aikman. Triplets. That's the team right there. The triplets. Now, what do you think of the lions and the cowboys always playing on Thanksgiving? I mean, I love how those teams are the tradition. I mean, obviously the Cowboys, they're America's team. They draw the most represents the Thanksgiving. You need the Dallas Cowboys on TV. the Detroit Lions, they became so bad at one point that it really.

It was like their Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. It was their Super Bowl. Because that was like their only prime time game for a long time. At one time they were like, oh, 11, 15, only 16 in the league. They were winning two, three games at the time. It rarely wasn't important that Detroit was playing on Thanksgiving. It might have been important for the city.

But it was important to all of America that the Dallas Cowboys were playing on Thanksgiving. But now it's just as important when the Detroit Lions are playing. Hell yeah. Everyone loves Detroit right now. They're kind of becoming like America's up and coming team. America's up and coming team. Of the middle, upper Midwest. Yeah, Midwest.

They call it the Midwest. You know. Upper America. Yeah. That are bordering the Canada. I've actually always been. The Canada's team, actually. Well, technically, Detroit is the only city where Canada is south of it.

Yeah. Emmett Smith always, he was also known for his game day fits. Yes. Like, he had pullovers, right? Yeah, that's what he's endorsed by now. Oh, pull over diapers. Oh, depends, right? Yeah.

Because he's always dependable in Dallas. He's always dependable in Dallas. Yeah, so now he's representing depends adult diapers because you can depend on Emmett Smith that take a dump on the other opposing team. Defense. Yes, on the defense. It's pretty crazy. He did that whole polka dot like overall outfit back in the day when guys would always wear

suit and tie. Like to think about it now. like that's how everyone dresses now. Everyone dresses like it's a fucking runway before the game to get your shot, show that you're cool, your style, you're this, you're that. And Emmett Smith was like a pioneer in that. Look at that fucking outfit. That's kind of fire.

Would you wear that wrong? If it was Halloween. What was your game day? Yeah. What was your game day outfit? My game day outfit, man, you know me. I was a short and t-shirt guy every single week. That was all.

Three t-shirt, free shorts, free sandals. I was showing up every game like that. Guy wore Jordan Sandals nine years that I've known him. The same pair in the locker room. That's what he'd roll up in, just like this. He'd look exactly how he's dressed right now, just like this because this is all free stuff. And he'd roll up in a game day.

He'd roll up in the game day. You'd see him in the cafeteria, he'd grab some food. He'd grab a couple PVNJs. And I'm good. And then he's good. Just thankful for just the basics, Jules. I don't think I've, I think I've come across Emmett at a, like a banquet or a function or a charity event or some event. Emma Smith just looks like happy and cool and rich anytime I see him.

He's got a great smile. He has an age. He looks exactly the same as he did in high school. I don't think he's got the hair anymore, but salt and pepper beer. I mean, my guy could cut a rug too. Emmett Smith actually won Dancing with the Stars. Does Dola win dancing with stars like Emma Smith? Right now.

this is after dancing with the stars did Danny win wait this is after we don't know if Danny won but right now we can imaginary think that like if he wins and you say he won right now then we'll look like geniuses but if we say he didn't

he won and he didn't win then we'll look like morons I think Danny is going to win Dancing with the Stars you think Danny no he won Dan Danny won Dancing with the Stars fucking let's go Dola shout out who time what kind of is Emmett Smith? I would say...

On three. One, two, three. Stud! I mean, he was relentless, man. I mean, like, dogs, dogs get hurt and they don't care one bit. They just keep on going. Amit Smith just kept going. He's a crazy stud because you think about it. When you think of that generation, like, when I think a dog, I think of someone who, like, he won every year. He didn't have to have to be a dog.

Like, he was the pedigree. Everyone knew he was the guy. one of the faces of the Dallas Cowboys, which was America's team, he had the pedigree. He went on dancing with the stars. He won Dancing with the Stars. You telling me dogs go out there and win some dancing with the stars? No, dogs don't go out and win dancing with the stars. Studs do. Dogs go out there and dancing with the stars and lose the first round because they're just so happy to be there.

And they're just roughing around and they can't figure out what to do. But they do it at 100 miles now. They do it at 100 miles per hour. And they're just going out there and just being so careless and running over everything in sight. Motivated to win, but I don't know how to do it. Yeah. So then I just talked to you in. I talked to you in.

You talked to me into it. You all sees a stud. Stud. Stamp it. Mm-hmm. It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed?

And it's beautiful. The guys are young and cute. It's not just a game. It's your culture. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. Listen to American Football on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. Joy is essential, and it's also elusive. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence, Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting

and moving on-air chats. Open your free IHeart Radio app. Search Joy 101 and listen now. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby is presented by CVS. For years, the Un-House has been presented as

a monolith in mainstream media. We'd-N-Haus is a podcast that's changing the narrative. I'm Theo Henderson, and I created the show why I was unhoused on the streets of Los Angeles. We've grown into a two-time Webby Award-winning podcast, the only podcast that shares unhoused stories and news from the unhoused perspective.

Listen to Weezy &House on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing. I talk to composer Mark Shaman. It's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang.

And director Morgan Neville. Film School teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary. What do you want to say? Documentary is all about your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard. Listen to Here's the Thing on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.