Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Ja'Marr Chase and the 2025 NFL Season

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

Your favorite dudes are back in the studio for another big one this week! We're back doing classic dude segments and this week have a special one: we're talking Ja'Marr Chase and the incredible career he has already built. Then we look into our Crystal Balls to see what the future of this NFL season will look like. We finish it up with some Discord questions in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Full swing. Flying by. What are we talking about in this episode? Well, one of the best wide receivers in the game. And then will the Ravens make the playoffs? We'll see what the crystal balls have to say. And then we answer questions from Discord in the chillest dude of the week presented by Cores Life.

Let's come. Dudes on Dudes is a production of I Heart Radio. Jules, what's going on, bro? What's going on? a while since we've done an official dude segment in person should we do one now we got to i think we should step into it it's been it's been a little naked without the segment i like our our our little vamps on weekly updates and the stuff but i feel like we need a feel like we need a dude we do we really do so i think we should set the cock the cock i think we should set the clock the clock the clock the clock the clock

Julian, not cock. I think we need to set the clock. Do we have the AI? Yes, we do. Here we go. Ooh, it's the AI synopsis. It's been a while, man. Oh, we're back.

We're back. This is when you know we're back in the house. We got the AI synopsis going. Robbie G. Reading it off. Oh, this is a short one too. I like that. Some of the AI synopsis,

we're getting a little bit too long. Too many stats, too many accolades. But here we go. Depends on which AI guy we take. We got a short. Short one right here. That's just going to explain this guy. Is the AI real?

Just like that. All right. Standing at 6 foot, 201 pounds. He is a wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals. He won the 2021 NFL offensive rookie of the year after a record-breaking debut season. He is a two-time pro bowler and helped lead LSU to a national championship in 2019. Known for his speed and physicality, he continues to be one of the NFL's most dominant young receivers. let's get on Jemar Chase

Get on Jemar Chase What's the first thing that you think of When you hear Jamar Chase Jules Oh let me go first Rob what's the first thing you think of When you hear Jemar Chase? What do you think of?

The best wide receiver in the NFL Wow It's hard to argue Hard to argue You can't even argue it It's hard to argue I mean We just watched those week five games

And what did you say earlier? I said the Cincinnati Bengals should have lost to the Detroit Lions 35 or whatever, 38 to 0. But the Cincinnati Bengals have Jemar Chase. So therefore they lost 38 to 17 because Jemar Chase is that dominant of a player. And he is a 17 point swing type of player in these NFL games. That's how good he is. Now, I agree.

It was garbage time. It wasn't really garbage time. You see those routes? No, the routes were elite. Elite. Elite. Yeah. And he brought him together.

And everyone was guarding Jamar. And it was crazy impressive. But it was garbage time. It was garbage time, but he's still a 17-point swing in my eyes. He's done it many times in games. I mean, some games he's a 7-point swing. Some games he's a 17-point swing. And I do kind of feel bad for him, too, because without Joe Burrow, I mean, this

Bengals team has been just a complete mess. A mess. And they finally got off to a hot start. 2 and 0. Now they're 2 and 3. I mean, maybe in the future they should just go 0 from the very beginning because bad things happen when they go 2 and 0 and get the hot start. It's bad. It's sad because they really were trying to focus on starting the year fast. And then, you know, Joe Burrow breaks his toe.

And it still shows, you know, watching Jamar play, he's still working hard. He's still the guy on the field. When I think of him, man, when I first started watching him, he reminded me of a big Steve Smith. Remember Steve Smith? Yes. He was violent. He had great routes.

He could route you up. Aggressive. He could, he could tough do well in 50-50 balls and he was only like 5-9, 5-8. I think Jamar is like a big version of Steve Smith with more speed maybe. And Steve could walk guys. down. Like, he was a fast dude. Yes. But like, Jamar is, he's six foot, he's 2.10.

He's elite at running routes. His explosion in and out of cuts is spectacular. You never see him get ran from behind. He can catch a curl route and then outrun the pursuit that's chasing him from behind and then cut on a guy that's

coming from another angle. His yards after catcher are crazy. He can get 50, 50 balls. I remember early on, In his preseason of his rookie year, people were, you know, talking about his hands. And this guy has elite hands. He's just been everything you expected him to be being, you know, what was he? The third, fourth overall draft pick?

I think he was the fifth overall. I mean, for his size, he's so smooth. I mean, he's one of the most powerful wide receivers to ever play the game. He's explosive, like you said. Well-built lower body, I would say that helps out. However he's training, I mean, just keep that going because it's working big time. He's got some blistering vertical acceleration. And I believe that's what gets him open on the deep balls because of the acceleration.

DBs aren't ready for that. I kind of had that in my game. It kind of threw linebackers and DBs off when, you know, when I planted my foot and went to the flag, I had that little acceleration extra burst. And they weren't expecting that at the moment. It's like another gear in mid-route. he has that as well. His hands are phenomenal.

Strong hands. Strong. Strong hand catches. Big playability is up there, obviously. I mean, he makes some of the biggest plays in the NFL. He's great in scramble situations. On the same page always. So, like, he's a complete wide receiver all across the board.

I mean, one area I think he needs a work in maybe blocking. But, like, when you're that good, you don't need a block. No, I think their whole, their whole offensive. needs to learn how to block. Yeah. I mean, for the run game and the past game. But how crazy is it that this LSU group of receivers? Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, who else?

Malik neighbors, O'Dell Beckham. I mean, is LSU receiver you? LSU was wide receiver you from about 2016 to 22. But now I'm giving my crown to Ohio State for the last couple years. and like amica abuca amica abuka first off i want to apologize for getting your name wrong nah right it was genuine the other day it was very genuine but everyone knew who i was talking about you can't not know him he's too damn good now it was just a little apology that's all jules i i'm sorry but he is that good now and he's taking ohio state to a whole other level in the white receiver

you category because of what he's doing. But it was LSU for a couple years, you know, beginning of 2020s. And now it's Ohio State, you know, university. How cool would it have been to play with your college quarterback that fed you in the pros? I mean. Like in the college quarterback's like really goddamn good. That's the most ideal situation. That is it.

And that's why these two are such great, you know, players and their chemistry is so good. together because they've been doing it since their college days. But playing with Jamar Chase, you really don't even need chemistry with him sometimes because he routes up to his defender so much. He's opened by five, six yards sometimes, especially on the deep ball. And if you just have an army, you can just chuck it down the field while there's no chemistry needed. You just throw the ball up and Jamar Chase is getting it.

I bet you he would have been good rebounder. And that's strong. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like he can box out guys. I mean, with that lower body that he has. He's covered. He still makes the play.

Yeah, he does. He's still like, he's a... And that's a good rebounder. There's guys all around you still going up for the rebounders well, but you're the one who comes down with the ball. I bet you he was doing. That's what he's doing. I mean, he won the Triple Crown last year,

didn't even go to the playoffs, which is crazy to me. That's elite. He's got the best rookie season to date when he was playing for a receiver until Puka just broke that. Do you think he gets 1,200 yards? He's at least going to get 1,000 yards. that's not even a question. But 1,200 yards, yes, that's very doable.

I think he still gets it. Yeah, easily. Because he's going to knock off a 200-yard game. He knocked off, like, he's knocked off some crazy games in the league. He'll at least knock off two 200-yard games this year. I mean, this dude's an absolute beast. I mean, Jemar Chase was just so elite in college as well. And on the big stage.

Whenever the lights are on, it just didn't matter. I mean, look at his stats, national title game versus Clemson. He had nine receptions, 21-yard. I mean, how many 200-plus yards games has this guy had in his career? And we're talking not just in the pros, but college as well. He had two touchdowns in that game. He's the first LSU player with three 200-plus-yard games in a season. He's just been a stud, you know, since he stepped on that football field in his college days.

I mean, probably unbelievable in high school as well, obviously. But we're talking when you're going versus elite competition. He's been an absolute animal. He also switches his cleats up at halftime every game. Superstition? Superstition. You see, he got the Deon-looking ones, those old, those old, used to look like the old deons, like those zebra stripes up top with the orange.

But that's got to be crazy. You have any superstitions at halftime? Well, Jamar Chase, he was doing it every game and started the sophomore year at LSU because his socks would get wet. I don't like wet feet. That makes so much sense, man. It does make sense. what is it, 95 degrees, the humidity is popping.

And dude, every single time when we were playing in training camp, Tampa's and stuff. In Tampa as well, your socks would get so wet and drency, it would feel like you're running with a hundred pound weights on your feet. And it's the worst situation. It's so uncomfortable. And you feel like you're like a shell of who you can possibly be out on the football field. Blisters.

Yes, blisters as well. And honestly, I remember doing that every once in a while. When we used to have double days, you'd change your shoe and, cleat and have dry in the second game or the second half? Like, it is a changer. It does make it feel like you can cut better because you get in that wet sock. You slide on the cleat and then it just chafes your toe. You get a big old bunion.

It's the worst. It's the worst. All right. Well, what kind of dude is Jemar Chase? Man, let's get into it. Let's get into it. I mean, he could hit all these dudes. And he seems like a cool dude.

You know what I mean? Like he's just a calm, cool dude in the locker room. He seems like a great locker room dude for. the biggest star he is in the locker room. But I think it's one thing. I think so too. I mean, he's a stud for sure. He's a dog for sure.

But on three, I think he's a one, two, three, freak. I mean, just the explosiveness he brings to the table at his size, at the wide receiver position, you got to have freakish abilities

to be able to do what he's doing. He's like an aqua tank that goes like 70 miles an hour. like I've seen I get in these wormholes of all like these new weaponries and stuff and there's like these tanks that go like hella fast and then go in the water and I think they may even be able to hover that's what he is he's like an aqua tank he is well aqua tank aqua tank oh that was fun right what we get into I don't know what an aqua tank is still it's a tank that can go in water but also this one goes fast it just it could do a lot is that

the submarine. It's like the duck boat. Or is this a speedboat? Is he a speedboat? Is he a powerful speedboat? It's like a duck boat with cannons. Is he a yacht speedboat? It goes like 80 miles. He can go like 80 knots on the water and like 160. Is he a cruise ship? No, he's not a cruise. Okay. He's not a crew. All right. All right. They could use a cruise ship though. Yeah, right. They sure can. They can use two cruise ships in that organization right now. Let's go Crystal Ball segment, Robbie, you start it. All right. Well, with so much football I have to play, there is so much uncertainty

for so many players and teams around the league. That's where are Crystal Balls come in handy. Crystal Balls. It's time for another edition of Crystal Balls. Let's get into it. Let's do it. Yes, I remember

it. I love the second. We call it Crystal Balls because Grog said, let me look at my Crystal Balls. All right. what's the real name? It's crystal ball. Yeah, it's a crystal ball. But I said crystal balls.

Yeah. Yeah. Because there's two of us, Julius. Yeah. It's honestly, if it was just me doing the segment, let me get my crystal ball out. But what you hear, Jules, it's crystal balls. It's plural.

I just needed the explanation. Yeah. That's all. Well, let's get into it. Russell Wilson will get his job back as QB1 in New York before the season is over. Does the crystal balls say yes? Does the crystal balls say no? Okay, before we get into it,

I feel like Russell Wilson's job was to be the quarterback of the New York Giants no matter what situation he was in. It was to be a leader if he was going to be the number two quarterback when he signed with the Giants. It wasn't like he signed to be guaranteed as the number one quarterback, but he had to work himself and earn the job, which he did at the beginning and trained. training camp, but if that wasn't going to be the case, I feel like his job also was going to be,

hey, if you're in number two, hey, lead as a veteran. Show this young buck, you know, the ways. Show him how it's done. Lead by example. So Russell Wilson, where is this crystal ball? Where is it? The crystal ball says no matter what situation he's in, he has a job and he has to earn it. So if he's the first quarterback or the second quarterback, he has to be a leader.

no matter what the situation is. Oh, so he's got QB1 mentality, but he could be QB2 on the field. Well, my crystal ball says yes. He probably will be the QB1 at one point. My crystal ball was all over the place. Did my crystal ball make any sense, Jules? Did you understand what I was trying to say?

I did. He's got to be QB1 as a mindset and as a professional to show QB2 who's really QB1 how to be a professional because QB1, who's really QB2, is still young. Yes, exactly. Yeah, at least you understood. I understood it.

I think yes, because I think QB1 Jackson Dart right now, he's exciting, he's electric, but he's going to get hurt. I feel like he's going to get banged up. Yeah. The crystal ball says Russell Wilson will be in again. He'll be, like, I just think Jackson Dart, he's, he's very fun, exciting. But like, it's going to be a year for the Giants where they're just going to be trying all different type of experiments.

You can't play as hard as Jackson DART does when you're in the NFL. I mean, you can't get hit. When you're that young, you can get away with it for a couple. Or two or three or four. It's hard. Let's get into the next one. All right. More than three head coaches will be fired by Thanksgiving this year.

What is your crystal balls? Well, my crystal ball says no. I think maybe one coach will be fired. What owners are now doing because there's really no benefit to firing your coach midseason because you still got to go through the whole process of finding a coach after the season. So just dismantling your organization like that, you know, halfway through season really doesn't make sense. And you see these owners giving these guys head coaches more time as well. because firing them just

is going to keep that organization where exactly they are. I never seen an organization fire a guy really and then the interim coach takes them to the playoffs and then the Raiders did it a couple times I think. It's happened before but the percentage is low.

And we're talking before Thanksgiving. I mean, there's a lot of football left to be played after Thanksgiving. There's a couple coaches in mind that I feel like are going to get fired but I don't think it's, I'm not going to say it. Okay.

I just don't even want to bring it up. I think it's unfair, but I think it's just before Thanksgiving, it's not going to happen. I think it's going to be close. Really? Maybe one guy. I don't. Two guys. That's close, actually.

That's really close because all we need here is three. Is it three? Is it three? Is three the spread? Three is the spread. So it has to be four? You can push it three? I might have to push.

I don't know, man. It could get pretty ugly here. for a few teams. And I won't say no names either. Let's get on to the next one. Shador Sanders will get a start for the Browns before Christmas. My crystal ball says yes. Shador Sanders will get a star for the Browns because why wouldn't he get a start for the

Browns? Cleveland Browns aren't going to be. My crystal ball says the Cleveland Browns aren't going to be in playoff contention. That's also what my crystal ball is saying. So if they're not in playoff contention, why not put Shador Sanders in? at least for a game or two to see what he has to see if he could possibly be the future of the Browns or possibly trade him eventually and get some value for him. Mike Cristobal says it's up to Gabriel because he, I thought he looked decent last week

in London. I mean, he played a solid football game. He took care of the football. Everyone thinks he's decisive with the football. Whenever you hear any kind of guy talk about him, they say he's a serious guy that knows what to do, gets the ball out. quick. I think the Browns in a

kind of beat up division and an AFC North division that's kind of struggling right now. I don't think they're quite out of it yet. They always just hang around. Stefansky knows how to just hang around. Let's figure some things out. Have a really

good defense. Maybe get Dylan Gabriel to maybe get things going in the right direction. I don't know. I think it all depends on how Gabriel plays. That's what Christian ball says, even though that's probably like the scapego. All right, next one.

So is that a yes or no? Like you shake up the crystal ball and it can only pop up yes and it can only pop up no. Before Christmas, no. I think Gabriel, I think he's going to do all right. I think he did pretty solid, you know, with all that pressure on him versus the Minnesota Vikings defense, Brian Flores type of, you know, defense where he's scheming and, and mixing things up. He did very good for that first start of his, you know, being on Cleveland. So

I do believe, yeah, if Gabriel stays healthy and he and he shows potential and he shows improvement every week, then you cannot pull him. You can't pull him. Well, it's, well, depends. If they keep on losing games, yeah, yeah. I'm betting they're going to win a couple. We'll be right back after this quick break. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a have truth is a whole lie.

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One and four? Yeah, that's way worse than two and two. And Lamar's got a hamstring. Oh, hamstring. How bad? Grade one. Is it a grade two? Every guy that I know on the team is on the injury report.

Ooh. Literally, Humphrey, Hamilton, Ricard. Just everyone that you know on the Baltimore Ravens is heard. Yeah, I don't think they're making the playoff. ball says no. They're not making the playoffs this year. This is bad, bro. They can't stop anyone right now. They got bamboozled by Houston who really hasn't been able to get their offensive clicking. It was good to see Stroud and Houston get clicking on offense finally. But that's not good for the Ravens. And I don't see it getting any better. My crystal ball says no as well. It's like everything was clicking for them,

plenty of games, you know, on the offense side of the ball, solid defense last year, and now just everything's collapsing. They're missing the tackle. I know they're missing a lot of guys, but just to collapse that much, it's kind of hard to climb out of this hole that they're in now. One in four, the offense isn't clicking. The run game isn't there as well. I mean, I feel like they really don't know how to use Derek Henry this year.

He went for what? He went for 2,000 yards last year, right? 2,000 yards. And now it's like, let's not hand him the ball. Yeah, he's also, you know, he's had some fumble problems. He's fumbled a few times. Yeah, he has. But it's just, it's been a tough year.

This is, this is, this is, nothing's been going their way. Nothing has been going their way. They can't stop anyone right now. I'm just going to go, no, no. They're in too big of a hole now. And they really haven't played any division games. And those, that division, they know each other. They know each other.

That's a tough division. Hey, little Dylan Gabriel. might look all right against them, but Baltimore Rivers. I think they beat, they beat Cleveland. I know, but they're going to play again. But they still got to play to Steelers twice. They still got to play Dylan Gabriel once. Yeah. And they got to play the Bengals

that have Jamar Chase. But how are they going to stop Jamar Chase? He's going to be a 30-point swing differential type player in that game. I got faith that they're going to be competitive. I mean, the Ravens, they're going to figure some things out, but it may be too late, man. One in four is a lot.

That's like you said, they haven't played that much in the division. All right, next one. All right, Stefan Diggs will finish the season as the Patriots' Receptions Leader. My Crystal Ball, well, says, well, let's check out his stats right now. Is he leading the Patriots right now in receptions?

He is. He is. And he's just getting better. He's coming off the ACL, and you can tell every week that he's improving. His stats are going up. His big play-making abilities are getting better every week. Just hasn't had a touchdown yet.

Once he gets in the end zone once, I'm sure it's going to, you know, he's going to get even more comfortable and Drake May's going to keep finding him in the red zone. But I say, not I say, my crystal ball says yes. I mean, he's already leading them in receptions. What's the whole team right now? Because I think Hunter Henry may be a guy that's stealing a level of receptions. Yeah, Hunter Henry is a very, very solid player, very reliable tight end, very consistent. Right here.

But Stefan Diggs will be the Patriots leader in reality. receptions by end of season. Click the reception. It's not even close, Julian. It's not even close. He's 12 more than the next guy and the next guy is Hunter Henry, who's a tight end. I know, but, you know, it's a long season. It is a long season. But he's getting better. He's getting better. You see his improvement. I think he does too. On a weekly basis. No, it's not what you think. It's what your crystal ball says. My crystal ball says, yeah. So it's technically, you're not even wrong. You just blame it on the crystal ball. Stupid crystal ball.

Like it's kind of like Rocky Gronkstone. Did you see Rocky Gronkstone play in that U of A basketball game? I mean, last week in the Red and Blue game. Yeah, well, this guy gets kicked out. Rocky Gronkstone got kicked out,

you know, for following too hard and then spiking the basketball. But he also had three attempts at the three point line. And he airballed the first one and then he brick the next two. But that was Rocky Gronkstone. I thought Rocky Gronkstone was going to Rocky Dunk. Yeah, he did. He won the dunk.

Oh, no, actually that wasn't Rocky Gronkstone. His lookalike that everyone thinks who Rocky Gronkstone is, which was me, everyone thinks I was Rocky Gronkstone. I wasn't. I want an air ball three-pointer. No shot. And I want to throw two. I would never air a ball a three-pointer, but Rocky Gronkestone was.

But everyone who, everyone thinks it was me, but I was there and I won the dunk contest. I jumped over a range over. The little one? Yeah, the little range over. I saw it. Like the kid rangeover. Freaking Rob. Yeah.

That was sick. That was. Was it fun? It was really fun. It was cool. Tommy Lloyd's great. He's their, he's their head coach.

Yeah. He's been there for a couple years. He has that program in the top 10 every single year. Every year. Every year, they just can't, they just can't win that big game yet in the Sweet 16. They'll get it.

In the tournament, they will. I mean, it's not easy to win. Rocky Gronkstone is going to get him some recruits. Yeah, Rocky Gronkstone came out of the transfer portal. He was at the Buffonkstone.

He was at the Buffalo State Penitary. Penitentiary. He's not that smart, by the way. He was in jail for a while. He was in jail. But he's a really good player. He has a lot of heart, a lot of soul, a lot of passion. Does he have an NIL deal?

He's got one. He's got one. It's to a gas station. He gets 100 bucks and free gas a month. That's tight. Yeah. What's he got to do for it? how would you know anyways

I don't know what he has to do for it I thought he got a mustache I heard you got a mustache cream thing he's like yo my NIA deal is 100 bucks and free gas man at the gas station Circle K in Tucson Arizona and I didn't ask him what he had to do for it

but he's like yeah he gets a hundred bucks and free gas and I think he has a motorized bike that he puts the gas in it's not a car I saw him pull up. Motorized bike. What kind of bike? Just like a Harley? No, no, no.

Like a bicycle that has an engine on it. Oh. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, pretty cool. We got to get this guy. We got to, we should get them on the podcast. Yeah, we shall.

Last one for Crystal Balls. And here it is. Will Tom Brady come out of retirement? to replace Gino and be the first ever owner-coach player. My crystal ball says no. I think my crystal ball says maybe. I mean, we keep on turn the ball over there.

Is Tommy coming out? No. No, he's not. No, he's not. I had to ask it. The crystal ball is it. Mine said no. Yeah, no.

Well, I mean, could he? Yeah. He could. Could he? I don't know. But the crystal ball says no. I don't know. All right.

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And what are we? A couple dudes with Mountain Blues. Cold as the Rockies. Hmm. So what's the chillest due to the week? I think we should answer some questions from Discord for the chillest due to the week this week. This is new. This is new.

Let's do it. With Discord is new, let's do it. Here's the link in our bio on Instagram Annex for the link and join us in the Discord. Question number one. What's Rob and Jules perfect meal from KDP 6494? KDB KDP 64 94 great numbers you got in there. They're just a little off. Oh, I know, 649.

That's why it's 6494. 6494. So the 69's for you and the 69's in the 69 is back for you. I see what that person is doing with their numbers. That is a good one right there. That's creative KDP 6494. But my perfect meal to me, it was my mom's chicken. suflay but now it has been taken over by another meal by my mom i love when she cooks on the grill

and uh there's this sauce that's only in buffalo it's called chavetta's uh sauce and it's like a vicarette sauce and it just has a couple spices in it as well very healthy for you and you put it on chicken and that's called chavetta's chicken so my mom has the chavetta's sauce at her house and also she gets her unbelievable steaks that she gets from Costco uh she gets these rib eyes and these tomahawks and stuff from Costco unbelievable steaks there very um you know kirklin brand very underrated it's not actually underrated if you know about kirklin brand it's it's the best one of the best brands out there really is and she cooks on the grill and then she has uh twice baked potatoes and then she also grills the asparagus and that's the perfect meal in my eyes with a side of blue cheese from

buffalo to dip your shaveta's chicken and your scephagus and your steak into. Wow. That's a good meal. I was going to say French dip, but that was really good. I like a good French tip. Always a good French tip. Let's get on to do another one. Favorite dunking on the bills moment for you, Rob, from Pigeon Man. All right. My favorite dunking on the bills moment. I would say, I have like a couple favorite of Rob's dunking on. Oh, all right. Remember when he was younger, you just scored touchdowns anytime we play there. My favorite. Yes, but what was my favorite moment? I think you did a like a rolling, a running jump spike there.

Yes. Yes. Yeah, where you like double hop. Double hop. Like I get a little momentum with skipping and then I hop and then I spike it. And that's how you get the most power behind a gronk spike. You got to get that momentum built up. And that's what I was doing in Buffalo because I was playing in my hometown and I was excited.

I wanted the best grunt spike that I could possibly do. But my favorite dunking on the bills moment, man. like there's so many great moments that we had going against the bills it wasn't like any time we like never really knocked them out of the playoffs or anything they just were never you know a team to be you know almost making the playoffs so we never knocked them out never knocked them out they weren't like they are now so like i would say my one handed touchdown catch first one that was a sick one that was a sick one it was in the corner of the end zone at jolette stadium i was one on one with their all pro safety and who was it at the time? Poir? No, not Poirer, the other one. Hi, yeah. Michael Hyde, one of the, Michael Hyde,

one of the best cover safeties, all pro at the time. He was covering me, but I'm uncoverable because of just my size. I'm not saying because of how great I am, I'm saying because I can use my size to my advantage. And then I have the athleticism

at my size to be able to move around and get the ball over a smaller defender. So Tom placed it where only I can make the play. I stuck my hand out, turned around a little bit, grabbed it one hand, kept my two feet in bounce, tippy toad into the end zone, and made a one unbelievable one hand catch

at Gillette Stadium. That was a good one. It was like an alley-oop, basically. That was my alley-oop dunk on the Buffalo bills. I had a couple two touchdown games against the bills on the road there. That 13 one was kind of cool. It was like my little breakout.

A little two-piece. That was probably one of my favorite movie. Also, the one we clinched before you got there in 2009 or something. Were you there in 2010 when we clinched and we got snowed in? Yes. Oh, no, I was there. That was 2010. That was 2011.

10, 2010. Yeah, 2010 my rookie year. Yes. And then we got snowed in right after the game. A snowstorm came so we couldn't fly home. Dinosaur barbecue. Yes, you guys went there in Rochester. I actually stayed back and I called it right up in the morning to meet you guys to fly out

because obviously my family's there in Buffalo. So I stayed back with my family and I actually missed that trip. And I heard so much about that trip when you went to the dinosaur barbecue. But that was a good game. That was. Now let's get into another one. We got a couple more here. All right.

Here we go. If both of you are gamers, what games are you currently playing from MJC? I'm not really a gamer right now, but when I was in college, it was Halo. Halo was just to me, one of the best games to ever,

you know, come about my life. Oh, another one as well, because I gained a little bit going, you know, that was college life was Halo. Going into the NFL, I played zombies. Yeah, you played a lot of zombies. Zombies was on call of duty. And I used to run home right after team meetings, right after, you know, that you practice ends at like

2.30 and then you go in the meetings at 3.30 to 4.30 to watch film. And then we would be cut from the stadium at 4.30. I literally used to run home so I can get on the couch with nasty Nate dog. You know who nasty Nate dog is. And we would put it on Z. zombies and we would play zombies from 435 the moment I got home because I hustled home here don't tell hopefully Josh McDaniels isn't listening right now I would run out of our meetings play zombies from 435 to like literally 1030 at night and then go to bed and then do it again

the next day yeah that's that's the NFL life yeah I got to like level 38 that's a I wasn't a zombies guy I play I like the war zones and stuff and I was in the fortnight for a little. Right now it's just FC 26. Football Club 26, the new FIFA. That's the only one I'm playing. That's the only one I'm playing. How does taking a sick day in the NFL work from the kid with like five D's?

The kid. Is this kid rid? This has to be kid red because kid rid always wanted a sick day. He just wanted to chill at home, get some rest, do his thing on the couch. I don't think I've ever had a sick day. Yes. So how do sick days work in the NFL? I mean, you really truly have to be sick in order to be sent home.

Actually, I got, well, the COVID. I got COVID. Yes. Well, COVID was totally different. That's not really a sick day. That's called COVID days. Like, if you had COVID, you were sent home for a week. That was a whole different protocol.

Sick days, like, you have to literally. You just told you in a trainer's room and, like, say, here, here's some fluids. And you have to sit there by yourself. Like, that was like, I just remember doing that once when I was really sick. Yeah. And like, they isolate you. They would send you home if like you truly have like the sweats. So they would only send you home is like they take your temperature and you truly just show right on the spot that your temperature, you know, you're, you have a fever right.

Yeah, they'd send you home. They would send you home then. Hands down. And then they'd have a trainer come check on you or something. Like you're, they take care of you. But only if you're like truly, truly, truly sick. Yeah. Like you can't just have like a little cold.

No. They're never going to send you home. No sniffles. Yeah. It's not just like, I'm going to go in. No. Yeah. You had to be dying.

I got a running nose out. Like literally, you got to be dying. Dying. Food poisoning. I got, I had food poisoning once. They sent me home.

It was bad. You know, I kind of had a, like, you had like, kind of prove it. Yeah. So like,

I had like food poisoning. I would like, one in and I was like, yo, Jim, look at the toilet. I puked. I would show him. I'd be like,

yo, I'm throwing up while taking a diarrhea. And I feel like. So did Jim Whalen come watch you shit? I would say, come here, come watch me just to prove it. And he'd be like, oh, I believe you. I believe I'm not.

I'll be like, no, come freaking watch me, diarrhea and throw up at the same time, Jimbo. Like, I'm sick. Like, that's the only way you got sick days in the NFL. That's the only way. Yeah. So to answer your question, that was it. Yeah, we got one more. I like this question.

This guy's asking me about my puzzling skills. Ooh, I like that. So, Rob, you recently on your Instagram story were showing off an elaborate 500-piece puzzle. that you had completed. Yes, I did. Thank you very much. And by the way, I only showed off one of the 500-piece puzzles I completed.

I actually completed two 500-piece puzzles, and that equals a thousand pieces. Whoa, that's a lot of pieces, Jules. That's a lot of pieces. I can tell you that. Have you ever glued together a completed puzzle and then framed it? I never glued together a completed puzzle,

but there are like these cases now. Like it's like, what is it? Like models? No, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, clear. It's like clear. It's like puzzle holders. Oh, you, oh, puzzle case holders. Yeah, and you frame them. So you don't glue it together. You don't glue it together. It was just, um, a beach house. One of the puzzles was in the other one was, I was an ice cream stand. And I'm becoming so good at puzzles. Back in the day, a 500 piece puzzle like this was, would have taken me about, you know, probably 15 to 20 hours to do. And now I'm knocking out these puzzles. And now I'm knocking out these puzzles. 500 piece puzzles. I sat there. I did it for five and a half hours and I woke up and I did it for another hour and a half. So I knocked it out in a total of seven hours. So once you get on a stroll, once you get on a roll, I mean, you just boom, you start knocking it out. What are you thinking about when you're doing these puzzles? You're just thinking about finding the next piece and getting it done

and fitting them together because every piece you fit together, you feel accomplished. You feel satisfied and it's rewarding. So 500 pieces, you feel satisfied 499 times. Not 500 times. Why, Joel? Because the first piece isn't done. You can't. There's always going to be one piece that doesn't connect out of 500 at the very beginning.

499 connections you get. So it's not 500? No, there's 500 pieces, but you only get 49, 499 matches, like pieces together. Yeah, I think so. He's a number of guys. What a question from Rachel C on Discord. I want to, you know what? That's going to be my new gift.

Like whenever I'm in like a new state or like I travel, I get Lily like candy and like a snow globe and I'm going to get gronk like a puzzle. I'm telling you, this is why I do puzzles. Puzzles put your brain chemistry back together as well. Probably. You know, it really does. I need to start doing puzzles. Say you're partying, you're traveling back home, six hour flights that I do.

And you get home, you're like, wow, I feel woozy, you know, I feel jet lag. I feel like I can't even form a sentence, all that stuff. Well, what do I do? I go to the puzzles. And the puzzles, they make me feel satisfied. And also, if I'm bored, I go to the puzzles. If I'm not feeling complacent, if I'm not feeling present, I go to the puzzles. And within five, six hours of just going straight, within the first 30 minutes, you know, it's kind of tough. It's like working out. The first five minutes is tough and then, boom, you get into the groove. Well, same with puzzles. You're just sitting there, you're bored. The first 30 minutes, you're not really feeling it. Then all of a sudden,

everything just starts turning, kicking in and you get addicted and you sit there for five, six hours straight. You knock out the puzzle. When you're done, you get up and you're like, oh my gosh, it's 11 p.m. at night. Like, what happened? What happened to my whole entire night? You don't think about food. You don't think about drinks, nothing. You just go and you're satisfied and it makes you present. And that's why I do puzzles. We're making a dudes on dudes puzzle. It's going to be a thousand piece puzzle. It'll be coming to you guys soon. have a docu series of Gronk doing

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