Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Matthew Stafford

Episode Date: July 4, 2026

We're covering Los Angeles Rams Quarterback, Matthew Stafford! Gronk and Julian Edelman discuss what makes Stafford so great and some of their favorite stories.Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudeson...dudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 Let's get your podcast. Let's get on Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford. Jules, what's the first thing you think of when you hear of Matthew Stafford? I can tell you this. I'll go first. What do you think? First overall pick to the Detroit Lions because that's when I started becoming a true NFL fan.
Starting point is 00:02:30 was about 2008, 2009, 2010. I was always an NFL fan, but I really got interested in everything that was going on with the draft because I wanted to get drafted, and that was my ultimate goal. So then when I got to college, I started really particularly paying attention to the draft, and that was truly the first draft I truly paid attention to,
Starting point is 00:02:50 because why? Because I wanted to get drafted eventually. And number two, my brother was in this draft, like I said, and he got drafted to the Detroit Lions as well, the same year as Matthew Stafford going number one overall. But my brother was a seventh round pick. I think he was a second last pick overall as well in the draft. Mr. Relevant Eve.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Oh, yeah, Mr. Irrelevant Eve. So it was close to being one of the last picks in the draft. But that's why I know about this guy. I've been following Matthew Stafford his own entire career. And that's why the Detroit Lions first overall pick is what I first think of when I hear Matthew. Stafford. How about you, Julian? I mean, a tale of two careers.
Starting point is 00:03:34 He started his career in Detroit, and his numbers were always Gotti. He's always been able to sling it, had Megatron. And then the crazy trade after Goff leads the Rams to a Super Bowl, they trade him for Stafford. Stafford comes in, first year,
Starting point is 00:03:55 wins the Super Bowl, and he's been going to the playoffs ever since. I mean, it's, It's been, it's crazy to, like, really think about how big the ecosystem is for a guy at the position of quarterback. And, you know, he's been a, it's been a great comeback story. And it really wasn't a comeback story for playing well, but a comeback story for getting to experience winning. I mean, playing Detroit had to be tough. This is, you know, I know for the young, young fans, everyone thinks Detroit's been good for these last couple. couple years, but, you know, it's been a, it's been a rough place, historically rough place to
Starting point is 00:04:35 play. And for him to get to experience a lot of the success he's had has been really fun to watch, actually got to throw with him once. What was that like? I remember you were talking about it because Matthew Stafford got brought up somehow when we were watching one of the games. And then I was just like, Jules, you ever throw with him? Because I know he's been out here in LA a few times and you're always throwing with 50 different quarterbacks in the offsees. and when you were playing. I was like, yo, you ever throw a staff? And you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So what was that like, Jules? Dude, he was one of the most impressive, just natural throwers I've ever thrown with. I mean, usually, you know, I'd go to Tom Houses and his little, like, camp, Tom would go and throw with him. And then when Tom would leave town, I would still want quarterback throws. So I'd go throw with a bunch of different pros
Starting point is 00:05:26 that would be coming in town to work with them. And one day Stafford comes in. And, you know, you go out there and sometimes guys don't know your timing. You know, everything's timing routes. You know, you're big out. You're 10 to 12 yard out. You're five yard out. Your curls, your deep posts, your crosses, your seams, post, high seam, your middle field open seam.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So there's a lot of stuff going. And sometimes, you know, the timing can be off. So guys, I miss you here because they don't know how you break down your weight or this, that, and the other routes on air. You know, with him, I think we threw 44 balls, and I think we went 44 for 44. I mean, I don't think a ball touched the ground. Another guy that, like, I was just super impressed with with throwing.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Like, that's what it was like always with, you know, Brady because we knew each other. But you go with different guys. Some guys would, you know, they didn't know your body mechanics. Well, he did. Well, that's what makes a great quarterback great, is that they can adjust to the receiver that they're throwing to and be able to pick up their tendencies as well to be able to place the ball where they need to place to ball, because of the way that you're moving out there out on the field as a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And that's just the skill set, one of the skillsets that Matthew Stafford has that makes him, you know, so great. He's one of the most talented quarterbacks, I would say, to ever play the game. He has durability as well. He has elite arm strength. There is no doubt about that. What was it like? Was he just like firing bullets to you?
Starting point is 00:06:51 Flick of wrist. Just a flick of a wrist. It's like he was even trying. You know those like, you know when you run like a deep bow from the slot where you go, in six up to about 15, roll it over 20, 24. Like, he would do his play action, come off of it, and woo. And that thing would be on a rope, like, hit you like four or five yards before the sideline.
Starting point is 00:07:13 That's when you can see guys, you know, our arm strength is those outbreaking deep routes when that ball gets up on you. Like he just, he had great ball placement. The ball was always where it had to be. And that's a, that's a processing thing. When a guy can process a receiver, you know, he does that very. very well. What were we watching right before this?
Starting point is 00:07:34 The miced up. Mm-hmm. What was it? He was on the Detroit Lions, and it just showed his toughness as well. He is one tough mofo. He's tough mofo. You know what a mofo is. That's a mother trucker.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Mofo. You take the T word, the T letter, and you switch it with the F. F, but Mofo. Mother trucker, but switch the T and F. And it was, I'm pretty sure it was like, week 10, week 11 or week 12 in 2009. So I think he was just a rookie. Was it?
Starting point is 00:08:04 So he had to prove himself. He had to prove himself that he's a tough SOB and he wanted to change the culture in Detroit. And this is what it takes. And I remember he got abs. This is like this is the era where you can absolutely slam a quarterback still. And let me tell you, that era was just lovely to watch as a fan. Even as a player, you're like, oh man, that quarterback just got smack, brother. And like they were driving the way.
Starting point is 00:08:27 They look like this on the field after every hit. too, but they always managed to go back in the game. Just like Stafford did, he was laying on the field like this. He got absolutely. He got all the weight on him. All the way. Definitely separated his shoulder. I think he separated his non-throwing arm shoulder.
Starting point is 00:08:42 They followed him the whole entire time on the clip, and he was just screaming an agony of just pain. Pain. Ah! Ah! And I mean, you've been there. We've all been there. I've been there. But as a quarterback, you're like, oh, he's done, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:56 But Stafford showed his toughness. Cleveland called timeout. I don't understand that one. And then, Jules, explain the rest what happened from there. He went to the sidelines. They checked them out. They were like, oh, your shoulder, shoulder. Cleveland called a timeout.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And then it was there also pass interference in the play. So then it was first and goal, I think, with just a couple seconds left on the one. And they needed a touchdown to win the game and what happened from there, Jules. Yeah, he rolled out and he was able to deliver the football. I mean, the guy clearly was in excruciating pain and was able to go. out and win the football game. That was impressive, man. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:09:32 We've been around some guys that have hurt their non-throwing shoulder that didn't play when they could have played. And, you know, a young guy like him trying to get the respect of his team early in his career. That's how you do it. You know, you get your teeth kicked in. You pick them up. You put them back in your mouth and you go play the next play. And that's what Matthew Stafford did all his career.
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Starting point is 00:12:38 with a delivery to another woman at the bottom. He exposed himself? That's a rookie move. Couples massages, monogrammed bath robes, and lingerie he then mowed her for. So she spent four weeks gathering evidence and taped a 10-page letter inside his luggage before he flew out. In his luggage, she came to play. And the second he landed, he blocked her.
Starting point is 00:13:00 So she called the hotel room directly and got the mistress on the, the phone. Ooh, she got the mistress live on the phone. That is a bold move. Let's see if it pays off. Then it gets worse. He took the mistress on the Bahamas honeymoon trip he had planned with his wife. And then the mistress tagged him on Facebook, outing the fair to her entire family.
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Starting point is 00:13:41 We watch all these guys do the no look. Joe Burrow. He was doing that 15, 16 years ago. He's kind of like under the radar. One of the originals to do that. He's on a shitty team so you don't get the highlight. How about him as well? He was played with Calvin Johnson,
Starting point is 00:13:56 Absolute Beast Megatron. He got him the record for what, most receiving yards ever in a year. And then he goes to L.A. and then he gives triple crowns, Cooper Cup, which is just unbelievable. Those two definitely couldn't have done it without Stafford as well. I think that's one of the coolest things that Stafford has in his resume
Starting point is 00:14:13 that he could do that. And, Jules, you threw with Stafford. Is there any other cool quarterbacks? I like I talk about you. I know you've known you throw them with a couple quarterbacks here in L.A. Any other QBs that you throw? I used to throw a lot with Castle. I would throw a lot with Linerd.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Because all the L.A. guys. Russell Wilson, Carson Palmer. Did Russell Wilson throw your deep? Herbert was out there a couple times. Never threw with him, though. I want to hear about Russell Wilson's deep ball. Russell Wilson, he has a great deep ball. What was that like?
Starting point is 00:14:47 He throws tear drops, man. He throws that thing so high. I was really impressed with his deep ball too because I was coming off my ACL. We went to UCLA and he was in town and he was trying to get some work in. and he was, I mean, his deep ball, it's a real deal. Like when everyone talks about it, and you can always tell a really good deep ball is a quarterback
Starting point is 00:15:09 that throws it really, really high, and it lets you run in, and it drops right up in that bucket. Like a good deep ball thrower, you'll see the nose of the ball go up, and it'll come down. And, I mean, he throws a really good deep ball. Carson used to throw really good, like, deep bows, those outbows that he used to hit to Chad. you know, Castle was just throwing missiles always.
Starting point is 00:15:36 We used to go with Kenny O'Brien, and he was a quarterback coach out in Manhattan Beach. We'd go over there. Well, you throw with any other quarterbacks? I've really never really have, man. I mean, I always was loyal to my quarterbacks, Jules. Unlike you, that's why, you know, Tom loves me the most. He knew you're going out to L.A.
Starting point is 00:15:55 and throwing with 50 different quarterbacks. But I only tested it. I only threw with Tom in the off season. Hoyer. I threw the way. And literally the Jimmy G. The only other quarterback,
Starting point is 00:16:04 I swear in my whole entire career that I threw with was James Winston one time. In Tampa. In Tampa? I was in Tampa for an appearance
Starting point is 00:16:16 and I went to Top Golf and James Winston was there and I ran into him. And then he's like, yo, I'm throwing tomorrow. You want to throw some routes? And I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:27 not a problem, my man. Let's throw some. some routes. I just met him real quick. That's all we really talked about. I showed up and we threw some routes, man. How was he? It was great. I loved him, man. He had a lot of passion for the game. He was, he was. How is his ball? He was great. His ball was good, man.
Starting point is 00:16:41 He seems like he's a lot of centrifugal force, a lot of spin. Yeah, good spin. A couple ducks once in a while, but that was okay. As long as the ball got there, you know, the right placement, but that's fine. But what I really liked about him that he was intrigued that Tom Brady was my quarterback and he kept asking me questions about Tom because he wanted to learn. from Tom and you could tell he wanted to get better as a player and he kept bringing up like what does Tom do on this
Starting point is 00:17:06 play what does Tom do here? And I just said hey this is what Tom does it's oh so you oh you told Tom's in for me see that's just a little bit I never said anything everyone asked me hey what's Tom I said fuck you I'm not telling you shit I never went in the depth too far Jules I'm not telling you shit okay I won't tell you any
Starting point is 00:17:21 Tom would be so like Tom was whenever we would throw anywhere it would be like we'd have like secret service scanning the fucking field. Tom didn't want anyone to coming in and watching us. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:17:34 Like we'd hop the fence, break laws at UCLA. Alex would be coming over. They'd be like a helicopter above us making sure that no one was watching for filming. He did not want anyone watching our fucking practices. He hated it.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Not at all. I liked it though. I like that. I love that mentality because then it brings bullshit and it brings extra curriculum activities that you don't want because you're just trying to work. So I'm always.
Starting point is 00:17:59 all in for that. And that's being a leader too. Hey, this is work time. Get the, get the fuck away from us. We got to work. We know, wait, wait. Wait. We're not taking pictures. We're not signing out of stafford. Oh, Stafford. You're right. So wait. Well, first, James Winston, I loved him too. He was a great dude. He was fun to throw with, by the way. I bet back to Stafford. We all know he's a tough SOB. One of the most talented quarterbacks. What do you got against him? I got nothing against him. I had nothing against him. I had nothing against him. I got nothing against him. That wasn't because of Matthew Stafford. What was it because of? The only
Starting point is 00:18:31 thing against him, I would say, is that he just really's never been to the playoffs like, you know, a ton of times with that much talent. I mean, that's the only thing that you can argue versus him, but it's because of the teams that I would say he was on. Like in Detroit, the teams were all awful. And then you get to L.A. He's going to the playoffs
Starting point is 00:18:47 all the time. It just shows that football is a complete game as well. I'm just busting your balls. I know. But what do I have against them? I have nothing against Detroit, Jules. I already talked about what happened in that trade. I was kind of being a very big asshole that year in the off season. I sure was. You know, and I wanted to be, okay? I thought it was fun. I was just matching the energy in the organization, okay? So I turned into the asshole. I never knew I had it, but when you're
Starting point is 00:19:14 in that organization long enough, you can turn in the one. I finally did. Bill called me like 80 times. I didn't answer one of them. The next thing you know, I get a text for my agent, hey, you're traded to the lines. I was like, I knew that was going to happen because I wasn't answering Bill's call. I knew he was going to fricking pull, pull, you know. And what did you do? A mighty power move on me. So then I was like, hey, Drew, you can't trade a guy that just retired. So then Drew hit up, Patriots organization.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Hey, Rob just retired. We're sorry. You can't trade him. And then it was literally about to go down and break it in the news too, like in like two hours. Like the whole trade literally went down without me even knowing. This was right before we won the Super Bowl. It was right after the game. It was out.
Starting point is 00:19:57 season after we lost to the Philadelphia Eagles and the Super Bowl because you got hurt because you're a sissy and you didn't want to play in that game so we lost because of you, Joel. ACL. I practiced that week, remember? You should have played. So then he traded me, but I didn't want to go anywhere. I was just being an asshole.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And deep down, I was not leaving Bill. You know, I love you, buddy. I wasn't going to leave you, you know, just a little tension in all relationships. But then we smoothed it out after I was retired. And then I, I was, I was retired. And then I came back to the Patriots that year, and it all worked out.
Starting point is 00:20:31 We won the Super Bowl. We beat the whatever, Los Angeles Rams in Atlanta. Oh, oh, wait, nope. Because we beat the Rams. It was Jared Goff at the time. Because we beat the Rams. Matthew Stafford got traded to the Rams. So what kind of dude is Matthew Stafford?
Starting point is 00:20:48 That, what kind of, I mean, he's definitely got dog. He's got dog tendencies. He acted, he acted like a dog in that, fucking that miced up rookie year breaking his shoulder. He's definitely a dog. He's definitely a stud. He's a stud. He's more of a stud than a dog. I would say definitely a dog.
Starting point is 00:21:09 First overall pick, but stud. I mean, Mr. Texas and football. Like he can just sit back in the pocket. Studges just bad. Super Bowl win. Combs their hair. Hall of Fame numbers. Brushes their hair off, brushes their shoulder and just boom,
Starting point is 00:21:22 zips the ball without even knowing. He's also a dude. And right when he processes the guy that's over, I think he invited me to do something right after. Like we met for the first time. He's like, you want to have some beers? I'm like, yeah, I can't make it. But like he's that kind of dude.
Starting point is 00:21:35 He's definitely a dudes. I never met him though before. So is he a dude, Jules? I think he, on three. Or is he a stud? On three. One, two, three. Stod.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He's definitely a stud. All right, we're on the same page. Joy is essential and it's also elusive. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy,
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