Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Mike Vrabel, Matthew Stafford, and NFL Playoffs

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

It's conference championship week! We start the show with Rob & Jules reacting to the Divisional Round games. We talk about a dude who is an all-time ball buster that just got a new head coaching job. We discuss a little breaking news. Then we talk about a dude with a cannon arm that loves a 4th quarter comeback. We wrap it up with our very first Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because all the LA guys, Russell Wilson, Carson Palmer, Terry Goff. Do you throw with any other quarterbacks? I've really never really have, man. I mean, I always was loyal to my quarterbacks, Jules. Unlike you, that's why, you know, Tom loves me the most. He knew you're going out to L.A. Through Hoy. With 50 different quarterbacks.

The only other quarterback in my whole entire career that I threw with was James Winston one time. Where? In Tampa. In Tampa? I was in Tampa for an appearance. And I ran into him. And then he's like,

yo, I'm throwing tomorrow. You want to throw some routes? And I was like, not a problem, my man. Let's throw some routes. I just met him real quick.

That's all we really talked about. I showed up and we threw some routes, man. And it was just great. But what I really liked about him that he was intrigued that Tom Brady was my quarterback. And he kept asking me questions about Tom because he wanted to learn from Tom.

And what did you tell him. And I just said, Hey, oh, you told him for me. See, just a little bit. I didn't go into depth too far.

Everyone asked me. Hey, what's telling my saying? I'm not telling you. I never went in the depth too far, Jules. I'm not telling you. Welcome to dudes on dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Grankowski.

And this is the show where your favorite dudes talk about their favorite dudes. We're in the midst of the playoffs and we're talking about it. Who's gonna win the Super Bowl? Who are we talking about today? One of the league's best trash talkers.

That's now a head coach. Braves was always at the helm of these crazy stories that just floated around the Patriots locker room. A dude that might be getting old, but can still sling it. He's one of the most talented quarterbacks, I would say, to ever play the game. He has elite arm strength. There is no

doubt about that. And a ton of NFL playoff talk. Jaden Daniels, that dude is smooth as butter. They gave the lions a little dose of the lions. They went on it for fourth and capitalized every single time. And we wrap it up by naming our chillest dudes of the week, presented by

Cores Light. Let's go. Dudes on Dudes is a production of I-Hard Art Radio. What a crazy, crazy divisional round weekend. If you're a football fan, you definitely loved watching some football last weekend. I mean, the divisional round was everything that you hoped for, especially on Sunday, two games down to the wire, basically to the last play or the last final minute of the game. I mean, the Los Angeles Rams game versus Philadelphia Eagles, when there was like five minutes

left in the game and Saquan Barclay ran that, you know, went off for that like what, 60 plus yard touchdown. It's like, games over. I was texting all my friends in the group chat. Game over, game over. And then you're like, no, no, you can never count out Stafford. You can never count out McVeigh. And then what do you know?

I'm still sitting there. Now, it's over. They can't make that comeback. What do you know? They go down and score a touchdown, you know, super fast. But my question is, they were so urgent on that, on that drive. But they couldn't score on the other drives in the second half. And they weren't really playing with urgency.

So why not play with that? urgency the whole entire game instead of waiting until the last four minutes of the game. You kept talking about that. I was. I remember when we were watching, you were saying they should have went NASCAR, no huddle, earlier, earlier, because what it essentially does is it tires out that defensive line group and it traps that team on the field. So then they don't get to sub in fresh guys all the time and they were struggling getting that defense line picked up and they had some bad couple drives. what they threw it. They threw with a pick. There was the fumble, right?

Was there a fumble? There was something. There was a couple of turnovers. There was two turnovers in a row, and then they turned it on. And it was almost one drive too late. But I think the- It was, it was one drive too late. But they would have won that game if it wasn't for the absolute stud that they have on the defensive side of the ball for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think he was the number one overall draft pick, or at least top five for the Eagles.

And that's Jalen Carter. Everyone else was tired besides that guy. And he had some pre-draft shit and Howie Roseman picked him up like it was a fucking steal at eight or something. And if you break down that play as well, there was a couple guys open that Los Angeles Rams would have won that game. If it wasn't for Carter, if he didn't sack Stafford, there was some guys that were wide open that Stafford could have just easily flick the ball to. And that would have been game right there. And that would have been one of the best comebacks in playoff history, especially on the road in Philly, cold, snowy. freaking unbelievable football conditions for football fans.

That's what you want to see. That's what was so cool about the games on Sunday, too. Snowy? Two snowy. It wasn't snowy at the beginning of the games. Two snowing in the middle of the game. And then there was snow all over the field. And I feel like what was cool is that it didn't affect the players at all.

A couple of the players, you know, I don't want to individualize anyone there. But overall, just as a team, that cold weather didn't mentally drain anyone. When everyone went out there and played solid football and gave it their all, which is great to see as a football fan. Definitely. I mean, I don't think the weather affected anyone. I didn't see very many slips. Yeah, there were some drops in that Raven game.

I feel terrible for Mark Andrews. Terrible, man. He had a. Love Mark Andrews, man. I met him before. Great guy. And he works his tail off. One of the all-time great Baltimore Ravens.

He leads the franchise and touchdown receptions as well. I feel bad for him, man. and hopefully I'm praying for him in the future that he gets another chance to redeem himself. And if you keep working hard, Mark, it's going to come. That redemption is going to come and you're going to come through the next time, you know, it comes your way. But biggest surprise of all, commanders beating the freaking lions.

That was the biggest surprise. That's how freaking, I mean. But the problem is, I mean, the lions, they had 30 different defensive starters start for them this year. I mean, their offense came out. Yeah, a couple of mistakes of Jared Gough didn't throw that one pick six. I mean, it would have been a total different ball game. It would have been a lot closer. But I mean, you got to 12 man.

Yeah, 12 men in the huddle. How crazy was that? They meet themselves. Like the lions that, you know, I, I argue that maybe that by week took them off their, their feng shui, as I always like to say. How about, how about, though, this is just shows how great Tom is as a quarterback because even when he was up in the booth, he was, he was calling out, hey, 12 men on the field, 12 men on the field. And when we were playing in games, how many times, how many times, did Tom take advantage when there was 12 guys on the field and try to hurry up and snap the ball because he knew it was a free play. That's how just like just how much awareness he had because he knew where we all were on the field. He knew what play was going to be on, you know, was called.

He knew what the linemen were doing. And then also he was keeping track of how many guys were on the field. Yeah, because if you, you know, if you see he, he, he's watching the defense while he's about to call a play. And if they're bringing in another lineman and that lineman doesn't get off, he'd get us to there and we'd rambo it. But yeah, there was just too many penalties for, I mean, too many mistakes for the Detroit Lions. And I just remember vividly always hearing in our meetings, you know, more games are lost than one.

And playoff football is about the team that makes the least amount of mistakes. Now, you can jump over to the Buffalo and Ravens game and you could say, you know, Josh Allen didn't have a sexy, crazy game. But Josh Allen didn't make any more. mistakes and they controlled the game and they didn't turn the ball over while Baltimore turned the ball over a few times and beat themselves. Like that's, it's usually the team that

makes the least amount of mistakes, executes the best in situational football is the team that wins. And that was on display this division around. Ravens versus Bills. Did the Bills win that game or did the Ravens lose the game? I think it's a combination of both. The Bills went out and won that game. They had, they made plays. No mistakes. No mistakes. And then Ravens made a couple mistakes. You know, there was drop balls. There was funnels. There was interceptions. You can feel

that the Ravens were the better team, but they just didn't come through in the clutch situation. So not the better team that day. Not the better team that day. So it's both in that category. The bills did do everything they needed to do to win and didn't make the mistakes, but the Ravens also hurt themselves. So how about

all right, let's go through all the games. Chiefs versus Texans. Did the Texans beat themselves or did the Chiefs really win the game because they were a better team? I think that it's just a team. Chiefs just did that the Chiefs do. It seemed like, I mean, they had 23 days off. They seemed like they started a little slow. They put it together at the end.

You know, you don't cover Travis Kelsey, the postseason leader in every category almost where he's going to be. And you let a guy like him just go scot-free in the middle of the field. I mean, I think the Chiefs went out and beat, like, you can't do those kind of things and think you're going to beat the Chiefs. I agree. You can't turn the ball over and think you're going to beat the Chiefs. Chiefs are too good. Commanders versus Lions.

And what is what? Commander's Lions? Yeah, come on. I think the commanders won the game. They won that game. It's not like the Lions lost the game. You know, the commanders deserve to win that game. And on top of that, they had, they put their foot on the gas pedal for the first quarter, second quarter, third quarter.

And they finished it off by giving it a turbo boost as well, you know, within the fourth quarter. to get them over that hump first the lion. So the commanders won that game, fair and square. It wasn't like the lions lost it. They gave the lions a little dose of the lions. They went on it for fourth and capitalized every single time. Jaden Daniels, that dude is smooth as butter as room temperature butter. And then Rams versus Eagles.

Eagles win that game or did the Rams, you know, cost himself that game and lose it? I mean, there was turnovers. If the Rams didn't turn the ball over. I'd say this is like the Ravens versus Bills. This is a combination of both. The Eagles deserve to win this game because of the running, running game. They didn't really have any turnovers, did they?

No. No. They were pretty sound. The Eagles. No, they didn't turn the ball over. They were pretty sound in that department. But the Rams, couple turnovers. Jalen heard.

They did. But he didn't turn it over. The Rams, a couple turnovers and then still had a chance. He'd be holding that thing like a loaf of bread. Mm-hmm. He's, I, he's, I. I mean, I still have nightmares in the Super Bowl.

It may cost him. When, you know, he had a great game, but they had a pick a scoop and score fumble for a touchdown. Like, he's had a few of those. Mm-hmm. Like, we got to tighten that up, bro. I'm still, I lost 50 grand on you guys from that game. Okay. All right.

Make another bet. Make another bet. Make up for it, baby. What about it? Let's just jump, like, real quick. Championship weekend. All right, here we go. Bill's Chiefs.

We got the Bill's Chiefs. That's going to be a heck of a game. That's going to be a rematch of this year. The chiefs actually have beaten the bills three times in like the last four years, I think it was in the postseason. And the bills always beat them in the regular season. So this is huge for Buffalo. The city of Buffalo is absolutely turned up right now. And the bills, you know, Mafia, they're not really big fans of me right now because I chose Baltimore, you know, to win because I said, you know, defense wins, big games in cold weather.

And the defense for the Baltimore Ravens were playing at exceptional level over the last six weeks. and also when you can run the ball with Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry out of the backfield. That's the reason why I went with the Baltimore Ravens. And let me tell you, I'm hearing it from the Buffalo fans right now. I'm hearing it from my family who lives in Buffalo. I'm hearing it from my friends. They're sending me that emoji middle finger over to me. But they got to understand.

I was doing the reverse psychology. That's a reverse jinx. Reverse psychology trick. I really wanted the Buffalo bills to win. I'm from Buffalo. I was always a Buffalo fan growing up. So let me tell you, I want the Kansas City Chiefs to win again. Another reverse chinks.

Yes, another reverse jinks. The Kansas City Chiefs, how can they stop Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey? And how can they block Chris Jones at the defensive tackle? Well, they haven't done it in the playoffs. And they've never done it before in the playoffs. So I'm going with the Kansas City Chiefs once again, you know, coming up this week in versus Buffalo. You know, it's hard to bet against the Chiefs in this Sabat. you know, I was really impressed

with the Bill's defense. They took the ball away against the Ravens a couple times. They played tight defense. They tackled well for the most part. I mean, that's a small, we all, everyone in goddamn TV, podcasts, internet talks about

how small that defense was. And they only gave up how many points, 20 something points to the Ravens, which have been on fire. This Eagles commanders. Hold on. Before the bill, you get, you're talking about the bill's defense.

There's a huge difference maker that came back this year. And it is Molano. Malano. I played versus that guy. I didn't really know who he was. He was young still. He was young. And I had a beat up back when I played him that one game.

I had like one catch and I couldn't even move. But like, I could still tell when you're a great player. Yeah. Even if anyone can cover me that day. But I was literally ran a route and I'm like, who is this linebacker covering me? Like this guy is sharp, even though I wasn't sharp that game, but I could still tell. Lost in college. This guy's sharp.

Milano, you are the true difference maker for the Buffalo Bills right now. Welcome to Bill's, Bill's Mafia. Welcome Milano back. He is truly a game changer for you guys. And he's gotten stronger each week because he tore his bicep came back, you know, whatever, nine, ten weeks, which is incredible. Back to the Commander's Eagles. Back to the Commander's Eagles.

You know, I've been tough on the Eagles all year. You haven't. Why? Explain why? Why have you been tough on the Eagles, Jewel? I just, we've never seen a team with, with as many distractions as they've had go out and win a Super Bowl. I can name a team that has, and that's the New England Patriots. Yeah, but they don't have Tom Brady. Okay, fine.

Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, distractions don't mean anything. Like, literally, like, it's like water, like, just flowing off the shoulder. You're talking about the, the, arguably the best quarterback coach combo. Okay, that can't be the same, the same cannot be said about the Philadelphia Eagles. right now. And you can tell that with Coach Seriani and Jalen Hurts like all the outside distractions affect them. Like, oh, it hasn't since he shaved his head. A little. They've been doing, they've been proving me wrong. At the beginning. They've been proved me wrong each and every week. And I think it's because of Seek Juan, man. I'm super happy for Seek Juan. He's been a fucking monster. It's about time people

putting, you know, him up there with the greats. He just never played with a good offense line. You give him a good offense line for the first time in his life. And he's doing what he's doing. I mean, he is a true difference maker that's masking a lot of problems. I love watching AJ Brown play, but there's some shit going on with that whole thing. You know, AJ's ever eating books on the side. Like, I just, we've never seen stuff like that. What team have you seen these kind of things happen and go out and win a Super Bowl? And that's where they've played their standard to.

It's either a Super Bowl or bus for them because they're that good of an organization. They really are. So that's, that's me like saying, it's just hard for me to say, that they're going to go out. But I think they're going to beat up on the commanders. He. E. E.

That's a hot take, Jules, man. I thought the commander was going to be last week, but they beat the shit out of Detroit. They're fucking football's best. I mean, I think Philadelphia Eagles are going to win this game because of their offense aligned.

I mean, the absolute, beastly there. I mean, their smallest guy is their center jerkin, and he's 6-3-3-3-3-3-20 pounds. All the other guys, even their guards are above 6-6.

I never seen guards that are 6, 6, 6, 8, and 340 pounds. When we were in New England, Coach Belichick loved the guards that were about, like, what, 62, 290 to 310. They weren't that big of guys at all, but they were very mobile. But this offensive line for the Philadelphia Eagles, oh, Lane Johnson, like 6,8, 340. Quarterback in high school. Absolute beast as well. They're athletic, and they don't take no shit.

They're fighters out there. There's street fighters, this offensive line. That's why I'm going with the Eagles, but the commanders. I'm super impressed with them this year. Jade and Daniels has been doing things that you never seen done by a rookie quarterback ever before. And all the skill players as well, they kind of started off a little shaky at beginning of the year. But the vets have picked it out big time. Like Zach Ertz, he's been coming through, you know, phenomenal situations.

Ackler has picked it up out of the backfield as well. And McLaren, he's been McLaren throughout his whole career. He's been a stud. What quarterback he has. But it just shows when he has a real connection with a quarterback, how good he really is. You know what? You got to tip your captain, Dan Quinn. I mean, this coach has been to a Super Bowl with another team already

and then goes to a very bad situation in outside land looking in with the Washington commanders, which this team, this organization has been a disaster. I mean, we got stadiums falling down, ownership, whatever, a lot of craziness. And they go in and they're going to the NFC championship in the first year with the rookie quarterback. Dan Quinn, that's pretty awesome.

Also, big question mark, is Cliff Kingsbury going to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys? Is he, is he, like, is he going to? Well, I can tell you this. It should have been Dan Quinn. He should have stayed in Dallas for one more year, and then when McCarthy gone. Jerry Jones messed that up.

I think Dan Quinn should have paid Dan Quinn when he was in Cowboys. He is right where he wants to be. But I'm just giving a theoretical of what could have possibly happened. And if Dan Quinn could have been promoted to head coach, because I believe that Dallas. Cowboys tanked this year. Not on purpose. They just tanked because Dan Quinn left to be

the head coach of the Washington commanders. And you look how good at defense, on defense they were over the last couple years. And then Dan Quinn leaves and then look at, they weren't really playing up the par this year, Jules. And Michael Parsons even said something about Dan Quinn leaving as well that they missed them big

time about halfway through the season this year. So tip your hat to Dan Quinn as well. He's doing phenomenal job. Hey, you see the TNT inside the NBA talking about us? That's when you know we were a freaking awesome team is when NBA and TNT is still bringing our plays up. We did have a play named after.

We were ballers, bro. Yeah. Oh, you look at that monster Gruncowski. Yeah, that's right, Barclay. We are going to do the Charles Barkley. How do they know it was Charles Berkeley? So earlier, Coach Belichick was on with him over Zoom live and Coach Belichick broke down the whole point.

play and how this all got brought up because Charles Barkley talked about how he was out of practice when we were in Atlanta for the Super Bowl when we were about to play to Rams. Remember Charles Barkley was there and it was so cool to see him at practice. I was talking. Oh, come on, Chuck. Come on, Charles. Chuck. First off, your three-point stance looks like shit, Charles. And Shaq. Jack wants to fight me. Shaq, look how slow you are, bro. I accept that fight right here, right now, anytime, anywhere, any place. cut guy. I don't even have to train if

I'm fighting you, Shaq. I mean, I just watch you here on NBA on TNT playing linebacker. He's seven. He's big man. You're slower than an ant. Than an aunt. I'm fighting you. I accept. Chuck has to bring it across the field. There was one post safety.

Those hands too. Chuck. Those guys are older now. Chuck, I thought you were like a rebounder and like a passer and like these guys are older guys. The pass was four yards and it went off his hands. Are you looking like Tom back there? Yeah.

Oh, oh, all right. Let's see. All right. He caught it that time. You know, he just needed a little practice. Oh, all right, Charles. That's an old-school spike, though. That's like how a little bit more power on the spike.

Because you remember, if you watch 80s football players back in the day, they used to spike it right here like that. So, I mean, that's a product of what he saw. that's a seven out of a 10 on the spike, but it's a, it's an old school spike and Charles Barkley is old school, so I give it a seven and a half now. We just, we called Tom before this to talk about it.

Charles Barkley was a three by one. We, we knew it was Pearl Smash, but we forgot the formation. It was three by one with the running back here. It was play action, Pearl, so the outside guy would have a curl route. The two receiver would have a wheel.

And Gronk would have either a cross. When I hear a pro, yeah, I'll either have a cross if it's one high or I'll have a safety. Or I'll have a little seam read if it's too high with two safeties up there. Because I'm going to go right down the middle of them. And so, and then the backside guy has a flag to take everything and try to get people to come over there. So Grunk rings it across. There's openness with the running back coming out and angling to the left. So Charles Barkley, NASCAR term that we use so many times.

And that was the play you would see. That was probably after a big play and we ran up to the line of scrimmage. Because you're trying to go as fast as possible to keep the defense, you know, off balance. And on the field. On the field. So they can't really rotate any players in and out. Getting tired. Yeah, they're tired.

And then I get to just be. And then what's so great about it, too, is that it's usually off of a big run. So they think you're going to run again as well. We hurry up to the line. And that's when my blocking skills and my blocking abilities help me big time in the last game as well because then they think it's going to be another run because I can block pretty solid. The linebacker step up and I go right behind them. I find that open hole depending if it's post safety or if it's too high and then boom, Tom just fakes it real quick. And he always

just pops right up after a fake. He was no more time. Sometimes it does even look anywhere else. No. He's just side eyeing what the linebackers are doing. He just turns around and whop. He just gives that quick flick of a wrist and boom, he hits me and then I just do my magic from there. I probably have about half of my yards in my career from that play. Amen. Charles Barkley. Amen to you. Coach Belichick said,

hey, Charles Barkley asked him, hey, why did you guys call it Charles Barkley? Do I know what Coach Belichick said? What do he say? Because it always works. Just like Charles Barkley back in the day.

Yeah. And Jules, thinking about it, that was all brought up because Coach Belichick was on Chuck's and Ernie's podcast. And that's how that play started. Are you still, I wonder if he got paid for that. Are you still holding a grudge that Bill has not come on games with names yet?

No, I don't hold grudges. I like that. I don't hold grudges. I like you. You know, to a man that gave me my, I understand where I sit in his, in his world. You don't have enough money to pay him to come out. Just a guy that he drafted, that he developed, one of the only good at my position that he drafted.

so receiver it's a good point receiver yeah you know made him draft receivers in the seventh round and then it'll hit we love it though we love it we love you coach yeah maybe one day you'll go on games with names coach i'll be watching or dudes on dudes and before we get into the show we have a big announcement drum roll oh oh oh oh on a left field we've linked with cores light they'll be sponsoring the show are chillest due to the week segment and a whole lot more it's gonna be chill hold on hold on I need a beer I need a cores light oh choo-ch-choo the mountains are cold ain't nothing like a Colorado Kool-Aid delicious refreshing and quenches my thirst nutritious core's light chute-choo

cold as the Rockies man it's a little early for a beer but it tastes so good when it hits your lips hey There's no such time. It's too early for a beer. When you're a beer drinker, Jules. Let's go. We'll be right back after this quick break. Here we go.

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four inches tall. That's two inches shorter than me and weighs 261 pounds. That is eight pounds less than me, Jules. You're 278? 8 pounds less to me. He's 261. It's 269. Yes, I'm 269.

Yes, I'm 269. So I'm eight pounds more than this coach. A versatile linebacker who plays. for the Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, and Kansas City Chiefs. Wow. Can you guess who this is yet, Joe? I know it is. After being drafted in the third round in 1997. 97. He's so old. I was like eight years old then. I was like 11. He won three Super Bowls with the Patriots and in first team all pro honors in 2007, known for his tough physical play and leadership on the field. Well, that kind of

translates to why he's a coach now. And while also moonlighting as a goal-line tight end. Gold-line tight-end. More touchdowns than me, I think. In the Super Bowl. All right. But not overall. Growing up in Akron, Ohio.

Oh, Jules. He has some roots with you, man. You guys are Ohio guys. Yeah. He played college football at the Ohio State University. After retiring as a player, he transitioned to coaching. Serving as a head coach in the NFL for six seasons, before taking on his current role as a head coach of the New England Patriots.

There we go, ladies and gentlemen. And this dude, let's get on Mike Rable. Mike Rable. Mike Rable, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, Jules, what's the first thing you think of when you hear to name Mike Brable? First thing that comes to my mind is just a tough guy. He's just a tough. How tough.

Like, actually, the first thing comes to my mind is an asshole. asshole because he just I mean A tough asshole A tough asshole Okay there we go We never played with Brabbs

But because of how legendary He was We've only heard stories The stories Were always about Like three people Vrabel Bruske and Izzo

And like Brabbs was always at the helm Of these crazy stories That just floated Around the Patriots locker room Busting balls That comes to my head. Like I always, you always kind of remember hearing how Braves would get on to Brady and Brady

would get on Braves and those those wars at practice. What's the first thing that comes to your mind? Hmm, a tough SOB, you know, a football player. A guy that has knowledge of the game as a player and as a coach. And he's from Ohio. And let me tell you, Ohio football is underrated. And you learn a lot about, you know, football and who you are, you know, as a person as well when you grow up in the state of Ohio. How do I know that? Because I played my senior year in Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh was a big rival. Just the state of Pennsylvania was a big rival to the state of Ohio.

Oh, yeah. You got the Pittsburgh versus Ohio, you know, whatever that, you know, all-star games was. And just have, you know, just are tough people. Tough players come out of, you know, come out of the state of Ohio and Pennsylvania. They're very similar. They're kind of underrated compared to, you know, you always hear about Florida, California, Texas. Oh, that's where all the stars come from. Well, all the tough guys come from, you know, the Upper East, you know, in the U.S., like Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York.

But he's a football guy, football legend. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Did you just try to throw New York football? Yeah, I threw New York in there. Did you just try to sneakily throw New York football in to tough guys? Yeah, because I'm from Buffalo. and I went to, you know, like I said, I went to Pittsburgh.

I'll let that slide. I'll let that slide. In your year. But yeah, Buffalo, they got some tough ass old bees here. I'm telling you, they got, they got me, they got my brother who played in the NFL, my other brother who played in the NFL too. And yeah, yeah, we're rolling, baby. We're rolling.

Freaking Braves. What stands out to me when we were talking about him the other day, though, is how he was drafted in the third round to the Pittsburgh Steelers. You told me that fact. And it was kind of shocking to me because I thought he was a New England patriot from day one because of just all the stories that you heard about him, just the way that he played the game when he was in New England and what he did for, you know, the Patriots as well. So I had absolutely no clue that he got drafted to the Steelers.

Can you tell me how that happened as well, how he got to New England? Because you kind of were telling me a little bit. Well, he was a teamer. I mean, he played at Pittsburgh. I think he was drafted in 97, was a special teamer. And then I think once he became a free agent, Bill, like, really wanted him or something? Was that it? Yeah, so.

Why does Bill have, like, this nag of just finding these white dudes that just want to play football, just work hard. And they're not so good at the moment. And then he just blossomed. Versetile guys. I think there's a guy sitting next to me like that. I mean, me too, kind of. That's his project. Nink of it.

Nikovic was a long snapper. Welker. In Miami? I mean, what was he just kind of a punt returner? Yeah, but I think he had 70 catches. He had a big year. He had a big year at Miami. Not like a huge year like he had in New England for all these years.

But he had a decent solid year in Miami. No, but yeah, Mike was the guy that Bill always used to reference. Like, you think you're smart. You're not no frable. Like, and that's when you know someone's a source. smart football players when Bill's referencing him in motherfucking you. You know, like that that was always kind of like one thing that stuck out. And then just hearing from like Jimmy Whalen, the training staff on how Vrable was in

the locker room, like hell core. It was like him and Willie Mack and Brew. Like he there was like the holy trinity of guys that everyone had to walk through that kept everyone accountable. And I'm really, you know, I'm pretty excited. I'm excited for this, this new generation of Patriots. Now, with that said, I still think the whole Mayo situation that he got the short end of the stick on this. And I feel terrible for him.

And I think he's going to do well. But like, that really wasn't set up to really succeed. Not at all. I think it was a little bit unfair. But shout out to Mayo because he's a great coach. He knows the game of football tremendously. And, you know, I just think that it wasn't set up properly for him. and I feel like he's going to have some success in the future, you know,

with another organization and possibly be another head coach down the road, you know, once he gets his foot back on the gas pedal. But Vrabel coming in now, like all this stuff that you hear, keeping guys accountable, like he's going to be the first doing it. And he can get away with saying things to guys the way he says it because he did it. he played it and he's just as smarter as the guys that coached him at it so like when you have all those things and he's a burly motherfucker like he's a big man when you shake his hands his hands wrapped to your wrist he's got big ass hands man strength man strength i still think he got four

or six plays in him you think he could play right now like four six plays yeah four to six plays like you know that offensive package the new england patriots had for him and talking about that offensive package. I think he had 10 catches his whole entire career for 10 touchdowns. What a fucking... His ratio from catch to TD is 100% best of all time. Insane. And that's just how smart of a player

he was is that he knew how to get open on the offensive side of the ball and then on top of it on the defense side of the ball. I mean, just creative and just just how good he was, just knowing the game. You know what makes me so sad, though? What's sad? Because what makes you sad? Now you're making me sad. No,

it makes me sad because we always hear about the stories about Brady when he was like the young guy in the team and how Vrable and brusky and all these guys used to like mother fuck him and it was and it was a complete and picked on Tom it was a completely different Tom that we played with so like we and like you couldn't there was only a couple guys kept really good jaw with Tom but everyone was so scared to do it and Tom would be hungry to jaw with people like talk shit but like everyone was so scared to talk shit to Tom because he was already Tom by then you know like it was It almost makes me like, man, I wish we got to see them in those early stages where you were more kind of part of the boys instead of him being like the older brother guy figure.

You understand? And Brable was like that older brother figure to Tom. Yeah. And we didn't get to see any of that. We got to see the Tom where he was our older brother. And it would have been amazing to be a part of that crew. But we're just the second, you know, era of the New England pages. But there were so many times, like you said, in the training room.

And the coaches that were around were able like, oh, you would have loved the guy so much. You would have loved to play with him. Yeah. He gives it all his, he gives it his all out on the field. I mean, he's a guy that you want to be friends with as well in the locker room because he's just fun to be around. But also at the same time, he's going to go all out for you out on the field. I mean, he was a grinder. I mean, gritty, great size as a player.

And he was an inside, outside threat as a player out there out in the field. And I think that's why Bill loved him so much because how versatile he was, a special team or could play inside backer and outside backer. And when Bill gets a guy like that, he utilizes their skill in so many different aspects of the game. And he makes you a tremendous, a player, and he blossoms you like no other. And that's why Bill loves those type of guys when he can get him in free agency.

1,000 percent. Think about it. Like, he's played on every phase of the game at a high level in an important game. He's been a teamer. So, like, when he's addressing the team and he's watching fucking the film or having, like, a highlight thing that he's probably presenting the team, he can break down guy for guy because he's done it at the pro level. On defense, he knows everything about defense because he's, you know, he was, he basically was in the school of doctorates on the defense through Belichick, learning through him. And then actually being on the field and experiencing it is another way he gets to coach guy. And then in offense, like, yeah, he was done a package or two.

But I remember going and going on the other side of the ball when I had to play corner. Like even being in those meeting rooms for the little amount of time that I was, it opened up my mind so differently on how I thought about offense when I went back to offense and how I was attacking the defense. He's done that on offense. So, like, he can break down the whole game. And he's a masculine figure that's going to make you do it right. And if you don't, he's going to motherfucker you're going to.

motherfucker you get rid of you. He's going to make people accountable. That's how it was. The Patriot way that it was developed through these guys. I mean, and just just talking about his knowledge of the game and just the mastermind he has within the rulebook of the NFL as well. Remember in the 2019 playoffs, Rable intentionally took a 12 man on the field penalty just to keep Brady off of the field. I mean, he kind of outplayed Belichick in that situation. Because Belichick was the master of knowing the rules inside and out and using that to his advantage. And this is a time when Rabel used it to his advantage. And it was against the mastermind, coach Belichick.

So I learned that pretty incredible by him to do that. I learned about that little mastermind bullshit is when we went to the Kentucky Derby one year. And he fucking was, he was my handicapper for the horses. And I made like 20 grand. Like, Rable loves like that kind of shit. We were sitting there and I'm, I have no clue on how to gamble. these horses and rames is over here and got his dip in i think he had a cigarette maybe a shot or two in him and he's fucking yeah he was smoking sings with the dip in i'm not joking sings with a dip in i think i love

this guy now and uh we go and we go to the little thing where you have to put your shit in and i'm like raves what i do he's like don't worry edelman i got you you know he fucking puts him on there we hit like a three thing parlay or something he's just a smart guy he's a smart guy that like can beat you up what's the biggest thing in year one that he has to emphasize in new england what do you think jules well you got to get some lineman he got to get some lineman it's a good point right there he got it they got a whole lot of money to spend now knowing mike through the years that i've known him i'm i'm sure he took this job knowing that he uh is going to be able to spend some He's in a great situation heading into his first year.

Obviously, he's got Drake May, who's an unbelievable quarterback. He's going to develop him to best of his potential, no doubt about that. Who's he bringing in an OC? I would say Josh McDaniels. I would love to see Josh McDaniels go there, but he has to go through the whole process. Maybe he has a guy or two out there that he's thinking about bringing in, but he's going through all that hiring process interviewing right now. But Josh McDaniels would be the best fit.

Because Josh, Josh ain't going anywhere. He ain't. And he loves it there. I believe Josh is one of the best offensive coordinators in the league as well. I mean, he knows how to develop players. He helped help develop me. He developed you, developed me. Tom. Put me in the right situations

all the time when I was in New England. He knows how to relate to guys as well, which is really good. I mean, you need that, you know, with these young bucks these days. I mean, he can do that. He made Mac Jones a pro bowler. Mm-hmm. And his rookie year. And then he left.

ain't no pro bowler from there on out no there hasn't been hasn't been i'll contribute all that to most of that to mcdanos mcdys mcd's i like that name i never heard that i don't know what about raeball he took ryan tanyhill out of miami everyone thought he was going to be out of the league and he basically made him into a pro bowler yeah basically got the number one seed in the playoffs and almost made the super bowl yeah you know a couple years with him too so he knows how to develop quarterbacks. He knows how to get the best out of guys because he brings that type of energy on the field in the meeting rooms to get the best out of players. And that's why I hear about Brable. And that's why people love playing for him out of the guys that I know in Tennessee.

I think he just feels safe when you're around him. I feel safe. I feel like whenever he was, whenever we hang out, we've gone out and done things together. I just feel safe. He's just burly. He and he's also got the wit and like the strategy. to like if something some shit were to happen in like a bar or something like he'd know an escape route maybe take down like seven eight people himself and then get us like you just feel safe with the guy like rabel he's the guy you you want your daughter to marry i feel i don't know about that oh all right all right well i like when you're saying you feel safe around i mean you want your daughter to marry someone that she feels safe around so you check me there jules

man I'm excited for them I'm sad for Mayo this is like a this is really like one of those things where it's like a divorce this is I can't New England keeps on putting me in these

goddamn divorces I feel like a kid that's had like five divorced parents what can you explain more well when Bill Brady that divorce oh yeah now you know Mayo freaking Braves

that divorce There's like fucking hell of, because we're all like intertwined and it's kind of like incestual. You're kind of like the red-headed stepchild that's just been there throughout the whole time. That's just takes all the beatings. But in the end, you're going to still be standing there. Make you tough. It does make you tough. Makes you tough.

Man. And that's why you're the toughest guy I know, Julie. Also, I'd be crazy to say that, yeah, our last game with Tom Brady, Rayble beat us. that's why variable's back. That's why he's back. If he didn't win that game... And I have his pleats over there. If he didn't win that game, he might not be back.

He might not be the head coach of the New England Patriots. And maybe he wouldn't. Because maybe he... He sent Tom Brady packing in his last game as a New England Patriot. That's probably his greatest. That's probably what he said. The first line in the interview. Did he say that?

No, I'm just saying I would. But hey, Mr. Kraft. Who sent Tom packing? I bet you he said. that. Hire me. Hire me now. Vrabs has no filter where he probably would say shit like that. He's the only player to have two touchdowns in a sack in a game, offense and defense. I mean, his versatility. Is there any other coach out there that you think could beat up Rable? I think a good fight would be Dan Campbell and him. Oh, but. But that's a good point. I'm taking

Braves because Rabe's D.N. Campbell, he was a tight end. Yeah. So what? What are you saying about tight ends, Jules? They're just not that tough. They're not as tough as D. I agree with you. You're one of one.

I agree with you. Tight ends ain't as tough as Dends. D.Ns are beastly, man. Dends are huge. You got to be fearless. D'Emeco Ryans, he could be in there. They all say McDermin is like a wrestler. It could be.

Iowa rest. But I think Braves is a wrestler too. And Braves used to go against fucking Steve Neal all the time, which Steve Neal was world champion. So Braves are, he got a little in on that. So I think he's, I think Braves is taking,

it's just weight, weight class on McDermott. And he may have the skill technique, but Vrable would swallow him. Oh, shit. What kind of dude is Mike Vrable? I mean, he's stud, no doubt about it. His football IQ's up there, the pedigree. He's also a wizard.

He does. Basically played every position. He also has the best chin. He does. I mean, he's got the best chin in football, other than like the coach coward. Like, he's taking that. Having a nice chin's a stud.

1,000% like he looks like the Ohio guy. When you put Ohio guy in dictionary for like recruit, it's like big white guy, big chin, looks like Mustafa from fucking Beauty and the Beast. Yeah. I never seen Beauty in the Beast. Or is that one? So I don't know.

Gustav. You know. Gustav or something. Never seen it. Freak. I mean, he had like man strength. That's what everyone always talked about. his man strength.

Dog, he's definitely a dog. No doubt. He could be a Wizdow. I was thinking Wizz. I was going to go with Wiz. I mean, just how clutch he was in situations and just how knowledgeable he was in the defensive side of the ball.

He's a dude's a dude's dude in Patriot world. Like in Bizarro world, which is not really like everywhere else where like being an asshole and bullying is like being positive there. So, you know, that's positive because it makes you accountable. So I wouldn't put him in the overall category of dudes do. I would go on three.

What do you think? One. Let's go on three. One, two, three. Whiz. He's definitely a whiz. I mean, special teamer knows that game inside and out. Defense, I mean, clearly played defense was one of the best out there, one of the toughest.

And then knew what to do on the offensive side of the ball, too, scoring touchdowns. He's a whiz. And then also he's a whiz. The fucking Bella checking the Bella check. Mm-hmm. With the timeouts. With the 12 men on the field. They keep Brady off the field.

You know? So. Wizard. He's a whiz. What update? News alert. Ben Johnson hired by Chicago. There's.

Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears. We have news alert right now in middle of our show, dudes on dudes. And one dude that we never talked about that we will talk about for 30 seconds right now. Offensive coronator. Ben Johnson of the Detroit lines just got hired by the Chicago Bears as their head coach, ladies and gentlemen. What does that mean for Calib Williams, Jules?

Is he going to now have a year like Jaden, you know, Jaden Daniels did as his rookie year in Washington? I mean, Calib, I feel like didn't have anyone around him to blossom as a quarterback. I think it was just a free for all in the organization. It was just play callers, calling plays, not really developing. the first round you know the first overall pick what do you think joel before we get on to this dude i mean kaleb yeah if you look at his numbers he's like got the best passing stats ever for a chicago bear quarterback and he didn't have an offensive line and his gm ryan pulls an offense alignment i i love that they got ben johnson he's clearly going to bring some sizzle to the offense

but we don't know how ben jonson is as a culture builder this team needs a culture builder they haven't had any kind of success for a long, long time since a culture builder and Mike Dicca went there in 1980, wherever he went. So, like, I think it's good, but they need to build this team inside out and to give the kid a chance so he can get, he's a different player than Jane Daniels. Jane Daniels can make people miss and he can mask a lot of things, a lot of bad offensive line play because of his skill set. And Dan Quinn's a culture builder as well.

And he's a culture building. He's about in it for a long time. He knows how to build the culture. I'm hoping for the best. Ben Johnson, we know you're a wizard. We know you can call plays. But can you build that culture in Chicago? We hope so because the bears need to be back for the sake of the NFL.

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to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood, and also to have better day-to-day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. This NFL quarterback stands at 6'4 3 and weighs 214 pounds and was selected as the first overall pick in the 2009 draft. Wow. The same draft that my brother was drafted in, Dan Grankowski's seventh round pick to the Detroit Lions. Same here too. He holds the NFL record for being the fastest player to reach 40,000 passing yards and have. has won a Super Bowl. He grew up in Dallas, Texas, and played at the University of Georgia,

where he won the 2008 SEC Championship in high school. He set Texas state records for passing yards and touchdowns and was named Texas quarterback player of the year. When not on the field, he's a fierce competitor in ping pong. I'm telling you this, he won't beat you, he wouldn't beat me, and he wouldn't beat Damien Amadol. And he once claiming a tournament victory among his teammates. Well, we were never his teammates, and that's why this guy will never be a champion when we're around in ping pong, Jules.

I heard he's pretty good. Let's get on Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford. Jules, what's the first thing you think of when you hear of Matthew Stafford? I can tell you this. I'll go first. What do you think? First overall pick to the Detroit Lions,

because that's when I started becoming a true NFL fan was about 2008, 2008, 2009, 2010. I was always an NFL fan, but I really got interested in it and in everything that was going on with the draft because I wanted to get drafted. And that was my ultimate goal. So then when I got to college, I started really particularly paying attention to the draft. And that was truly the first draft I truly paid attention to because why?

Because I wanted to get drafted eventually. And number two, my brother was in this draft, like I said. And he got drafted to the Detroit Lions as well, the same year as Matthew Stafford going number one overall. But my brother was a second, seventh round pick. I think he was a second last pick overall as well in the draft. Mr. Relevant Eve. Oh, yeah, Mr. Irrelevant Eve. So it was close to being one of the last picks in the draft.

But that's why I know about this guy. I've been following Matthew Stafford his own entire career. And that's why the Detroit Lions first overall pick is what I first think of when I hear Matthew Stafford. How about you, Julian? I mean, a tale of two careers. years. Mm-hmm. He started his career in Detroit,

and his numbers were always Gotti. He's always been able to sling it, had Megatron. And then the crazy trade after Goff leads the Rams to a Super Bowl, they trade him for Stafford. Stapford comes in first year, wins the Super Bowl, and he's been going to the playoffs ever since. I mean, it's been, it's crazy to, like, really, think about how big the ecosystem is for a guy at the position of quarterback.

And, you know, he's been a, it's been a great comeback story. And it really wasn't a comeback story for playing well, but a comeback story for getting to experience winning. I mean, playing Detroit had to be tough. This is, you know, I know for the young, young fans, everyone thinks Detroit's been good for these last couple years. But, you know, it's been a rough place. historically rough place to play.

And for him to get to experience a lot of the success he's had has been really fun to watch. Actually got to throw with him once. What was that like? I remember you were talking about it because Matthew Stafford got brought up somehow when we were watching one of the games. And then I was just like, Jules, you ever throw with him? Because I know he's been out here in L.A. a few times. And you're always throwing with 50 different quarterbacks in the offseason when you were playing. I was like, yo, you ever throw his staff?

and you're like, yeah, so what was that like, Jules? Dude, he was one of the most impressive, just natural throwers I've ever thrown with. I mean, usually, you know, I'd go to Tom Houses and his little, like, camp. Tom would go and throw with him, and then when Tom would leave town, I would still want quarterback throws.

So I'd go throw with a bunch of different pros that would be coming in town to work with them. And one day, Stafford comes in. And, you know, you go out there and sometimes guys don't know your timing, you know, everything's timing routes, you know, you're big out, your 10 to 12 yard out, your five yard out, your curls, your deep posts, your crosses, your seams, post high seam, your middle field open seam. So there's a lot of stuff going.

And sometimes, you know, the timing can be off. So guys, I miss you here because they don't know how you break down your weight or this, that, and the other routes on air. You know, with him, we, I think we threw. threw 44 balls and I think we went 44 for 44. I mean, I don't think a ball touched the ground. Another guy that, like, I was just super impressed with with throwing. Like, that's what it was like always with, you know, Brady because we knew each other.

But you go with different guys. Some guys would, you know, they didn't know your body mechanics. Well, he did. Well, that's what makes a great quarterback great is that they can adjust to the receiver that they're throwing to and be able to pick up their tendencies as well to be able to place to ball where they need to place to ball because of the way that you're moving. moving out there out on the field as a wide receiver. And that's just the skill set, one of the skillsets that Matthew Stafford has that makes him,

you know, so great. He's one of the most talented quarterbacks, I would say, to ever play the game. He has durability as well. He has elite arm strength. There is no doubt about that. What was it like? Was he just like firing bullets to you? Flick of wrist.

Just a flick of a wrist. It's like he was even trying. You know those like, you know when you run like a deep bow from the slot where you go in six? up to about 15, roll it over 20, 24. Like, he would do his play action, come off of it, and woo. And that thing would be on a rope, like, hit you like four or five yards before the sideline. That's when you can see guys, you know, our arm strength is those outbreaking deep routes when that ball gets up on you.

Like he just, he had great ball placement. The ball was always where it had to be. And that's a processing thing. When a guy can process a receiver, you know, he does that very well. what were we watching right before this the miced up what was it he was on the Detroit Lions and it just showed

his toughness as well he is one tough mofo he's tough mofo you know what a mofo is that's a mother trucker but you take the T word the T letter and you switch it with the F F but Mofo mother trucker but switch the T and F and it was I'm pretty sure it was like week 10

week 11 or week 12 in 2009. So I think he was just a rookie. Was it? So he had to prove himself. He had to prove himself that he's a tough SOB and he wanted to change the culture in Detroit. And this is what it takes. And I remember he got abs. This is like this is the era where you can absolutely slam a quarterback still. And let me tell you that era was just lovely to watch as a fan. Even as a player, you're like, oh man, that quarterback just got smack brother. And like they were driving the way they look like this on the field after every hit too, but they always managed to go back in the game.

Just like Stafford did, he was laying on the field like this. He got absolutely all the weight on him. All the weight. Definitely separated his shoulder. I think he separated his non-throwing arm shoulder. They followed him the whole entire time on the clip and he was just screaming and agony of just pain. Pain. Ah!

And I mean, you've been there. We've all been there. I've been there. But as a quarterback, you're like, oh, he's done, you know. But Stafford showed his toughness. Cleveland called a timeout. I don't understand that one. And then, Jules, explain the rest what happened from there.

He went to the sidelines. They checked them out. They're like, oh, your shoulder, shoulder. Cleveland called a timeout. And then it was there also pass interference in the play. So then it was first and goal, I think, with just a couple seconds left on the one. And they needed a touchdown to win the game and what happened from there, Jules. Yeah, he rolled out and he was able to deliver the football.

I mean, the guy clearly was in excruciating pain and was able to go out and win the football game. That was impressive, man. That's tough. We've been around some guys that have hurt their non-throwing shoulder that didn't play when they could have played. And, you know, a young guy like him trying to get the respect of his team early in his career. That's how you do it. You know, you get your teeth kicked in. You pick them up. You put them back in your mouth and you go play the next play. And that's what Matthew Stafford did all his career. You know, watching his no look throws. Like we all watch Patrick Mahomes. We watch all these guys do the no look Joe Burrow. He was doing that 15, 16 years ago. He was kind of like under the radar. One of the originals to do that. He's on a shitty team so you don't get the highlight.

How about him as well? He was played with Calvin Johnson, Absolute Beast Megatron. He got him the record for what, most receiving yards ever in a year. And then he goes to L.A. And then he gives triple crowns. Cooper Cup,

which is just unbelievable. Those two definitely couldn't have done it without Stafford as well. I think that's one of the coolest things that Stafford has in his resume that he could do that. And, Jules, you threw with Stafford. Is there any other cool quarterbacks?

I like I talk about you. I know you've known you throw them with a couple quarterbacks here in L.A. Any other QBs that you throw? I used to throw a lot with Castle. I would throw a lot with Linerd because all the L.A. guys. Russell Wilson, Carson Palmer.

Did Russell Wilson? Did Russell Wilson throw you? Herbert was out there a couple times. Never threw with him, though. I want to hear about Russell Wilson's deep ball. Russell Wilson, he has a great deep ball. What was that like? What was that lot? Great deep ball.

Dude, he throws tear drops, man. He throws that thing so high. I was really impressed with his deep ball too, because I was coming off my ACL. We went to UCLA, and he was in town, and he was trying to get some work in. And he was, I mean, his deep ball, it's a real deal. Like, when everyone talks about it,

and you could always tell a really good deep ball, ball is a quarterback that throws it really, really high, and it lets you run in, and it drops right up in that bucket. Like a good deep ball thrower, you'll see the nose of the ball go up, and it'll come down. And, I mean, he throws a really good deep ball. Carson used to throw really good, like deep bows, those outbows that he used to hit to, to, Chad, you know, Castle was just throwing missiles always. we used to go with Kenny O'Brien,

and he was a quarterback coach out in Manhattan Beach. We'd go over there. Well, we, well. Did you throw with any other quarterbacks? I've really never really have, man. I mean, I always was loyal to my quarterbacks, Jules. Unlike you, that's why, you know, Tom loves me the most. He knew you're going out to L.A.

and throwing with 50 different quarterbacks. But I only tested. I only threw a Tom in the offseason, Hoyer. I threw Hoyer. And literally the, Jimmy G. The only other quarterback, I swear. in my whole entire career that I threw with was James Winston one time. Where? In Tampa. In Tampa? I was in Tampa for an appearance and I went to

Top golf and James Winston was there and I ran into him and then he's like, yo, I'm throwing tomorrow. You want to throw some routes? And I was like, not a problem, my man. Let's throw some routes. I just met him real quick. That's all we really talked about. I showed up and we threw some routes, man. I was just great. I loved him, man. He had a lot of passion for the game. He was, he was, he was great. His ball was good, man. He seems like he's got to swim. It's a lot of centrifugal force, a lot of spin.

Yeah, good spin. A couple ducks once in a while, but that was okay. As long as the ball got there, you know, the right placement, but that's fine. But what I really liked about him that he was intrigued that Tom Brady was my quarterback and he kept asking me questions about Tom because he wanted to learn from Tom. And you could tell, like, he wanted to get better as a player. And he kept bringing up like, what is Tom doing this play? What does Tom do you tell him?

And I just said, hey, this is what Tom does. Oh, so you told Tom's in for me. See, that's, hey, I never said anything. Everyone asked me, hey, what's Tom? I said, fuck you. I'm not telling you shit. I never went in the depth too far, Jules. I'm not telling you shit.

Okay. I won't tell you any. Tom would be so, like, Tom was, whenever we would throw anywhere, it would be like, we'd have, like, secret service scanning the fucking field. Tom didn't want anyone to coming in and watching us. Remember that? Like, we'd hop the fence, break. break laws at UCLA.

Alex would be coming over. They'd be like a helicopter above us making sure that no one was watching. He was like he did not want anyone watching our fucking practices. He hated it. Not at all. I liked it though. I liked that. I like that he didn't like it.

Because then it brings bullshit and it brings extra. We're here to work. Curricular activities that you don't want because you're just trying to work. So I'm all in for that. And that's being a leader too. Hey, this is work time. Get the fuck away from us. We got to work.

We know we're not taking pictures. We're not signing autograph. Let's get back to Stafford. Oh, Stafford. You're right. So wait. Well, first of James Winston, I love them too. He was a great dude.

He was fun to throw with, by the way. I bet. But back to Stafford. We all know he's a tough SOB, one of the most talented quarterbacks. What do you got against him? I got nothing against him. When you got traded to Detroit, you said, I'm retiring. I don't want to play a fucking Matthew Stafford.

What do you got against him? I got nothing against him. That wasn't because of Matthew Stafford. What was it because of? The only thing against him, I would say, is that he just really has never been to the playoffs. like, you know, a ton of times with that much talent. I mean, that's the only thing that you can argue versus them, but it's because of the teams that I would say he was on,

like in Detroit, the teams were all awful. And then you get to L.A. he's going to the playoffs all the time. It just shows that football is a complete game as well. But I'm just busting your balls. I know, but what do I have against them? I have nothing against Detroit jewels. I already talked about what happened in that trade.

I was kind of being a very big asshole that year in the offseason. I sure was, you know. I wanted to be, okay? I thought it was fun. You know, I was just matching the energy in the organization, okay? So I turned into the ass. So I never knew I had it. But when you're in that organization long enough,

you can turn in the one. I finally did. Bill called me like 80 times. I didn't answer one of them. The next thing you know, I get a text for my agent, hey, you're traded to the Lions. I was like, I knew that was going to happen

because I wasn't answering Bill's calls. I knew he was going to fricking pull, pull a, you know, a mighty power move on me. So then I was like, hey, Drew, you can't trade. a guy that just retired. So then drew it up,

Paige's organization, hey, Rob just retired. We're sorry. You can't trade them. And then it was literally about to go down and break it in the news too, like in like two hours. Like the whole trade literally went down without me even knowing. This was right before we won the Super Bowl. It was right after the game.

It was off season after we lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl because you got hurt because you're a sissy and you didn't want to play in that game. So we lost because of you, ACL. Yeah. I practiced that week. Remember? You should have played. So then he traded me, but I didn't want to go anywhere. I was just being an asshole. And deep down, I was not leaving Bill. You know, I love you, buddy. I wasn't going to leave you, you know, just a little tension in all relationships. But then we, we smoothed it out after.

I was retired. And then I came back to the Patriots that year. And it all worked out. We won the Super Bowl. We beat the, whatever, Los Angeles Rams in Atlanta. the oh oh wait nope because we beat the rams it was Jared goff at the time it was because we beat the ramps Matthew Stafford got traded to the ramp so what kind of dude is Matthew Stafford that what kind of I mean I mean he's definitely got dog he's got dog tendencies he does he acted like a dog in that fucking that miced up rookie year breaking his shoulder he's definitely a dog he's definitely a stud He's a stud. He's more of a stud than a dog.

I would say definitely a dog. First overall pick. Stud, I mean. Mr. Texas and football. Like he can sit back in the pocket. Studges is just bad. Super Bowl win.

Colms their hair. Hall of Fame numbers. Brushes their hair off, brushes their shoulder and just boom, zips the ball without even knowing. He's also a dude's dude though. And right when he processes the guy that's over, come boom,

come boom. I think he invited me to do something right after. Like we met for the first time. He's like, you want to have some beers? I'm like, yeah, can't make it.

But like he's, that kind of dude he's definitely a dude then i never met him though before so is he a dude's dude jules i think he or is he a stud on three on three one two three stud he's definitely a stud we're on the same page well let's get into the chills dude of the week brought to you by our favorite beer coors light well jules hold on one second i need course light hat real quick first before we start because i just love my corz light hat i love this light blue color it's my favorite and i feel like i look really good in it too So get your Coorslight delivered straight to your door and visit Coorslight.com slash dudes

and please celebrate responsibly out there. Responsible drinkers only responsible party here. It's only just like Julian and I have been our whole entire careers and lives. That's how you party responsibly. You drink responsibly, you party responsibly, you dance responsibly. And you chill responsible. Exactly. So now we have a little new segment here.

We're going to vamp a little bit. And this is a new segment. we're going to be highlighting the chillest dudes. We'll each have one every week, Julian. And we do. Yes. So that means that's two dudes we'll be talking about. So send in your chillest dude of the week.

And we will talk about how chill they are just like this for his leg. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. All right, a lot of chill dudes this week. But nobody chiller than this guy right here. And I'm going to have to explain why this is the first chillest dude of the week. Jules. let's talk about Teddy Bridgewater.

Teddy Bridgewater, chill dude. This is, this is kind of half court shot here, buddy. Yeah, this is. This is like. Explain this to me. Why is he a chill dude? You get the fan out of the crowd in the college basketball game and you're like, hey, you win a million dollars if you make this shot.

Like no one ever thought that we were going to say Daddy Bridgewater. Teddy two gloves. Dude, you know. But I want to tell you why he is the first chillest dude of the week here. Because Teddy Bridgewater was. a high school head football coach this year. All year. I'm pretty sure in the state of Florida.

Wow. All year. He built a culture at that high school with that football team in Florida. He put his time in. He did his time as well in the NFL, you know, and he got that break, you know, didn't really get a call or anything. Goes in coaches as a head coach. How'd that team do?

Wins the Florida State title. Jesus. As the head football coach in high school. And right after the game, he gets interviewed. And guess what he says? I want to go back to the NFL and be a quarterback. That's pretty chill. You know how inspiring that is to those high school players

and to that community and to that town? And then guess what? He signed to the Lions after two years of being out of the NFL as well and after winning that state championship. and then he let a drive in the playoffs last week. Yeah. Against the commander. Golf got lit up.

Touchdown. Yeah, golf did get lit up. He got absolutely lit up. And Teddy two gloves came in. They score a tug. Yeah, exactly. He did have two gloves on, I think, as well. That's got to be a chill, dude.

That's chill. That's why this was a half-course shot, but now do you understand why this half-court shot was made? Fully. They won a million bucks with this one. And also what was cool was that Teddy Bridgewater, wore Dan Campbell's high school. jersey to the stadium for the game as well.

I mean, so he won a high school state championship in Florida and he wore Dan Campbell's high school jersey. So Teddy Bridgewater is a chill dude to these young bucks out there. Obviously, he's a great representative to these young kids. So you've got to tip your hat to him for, you know, putting these kids in the right direction as well as a high school football coach. So Teddy, thank you for being so chill, man. Shout out to Miami Northwestern.

That day county, eh? that's that day county may hey chasing them white tails I think that's what they do out there right that's what we always heard the guys say they chest is little they chase the little rabbits and they catch them that's how you get your speed

they do something like that they're always fast dudes down there shout out teddy bridgewater I'm gonna go with Cliff Kingsbury as my chillest dude cliff I mean anytime you get an offensive coordinator that gets as much TV time as Cliff

with the sunglasses I mean guys cool I think he was wearing sunglasses in a dome. That's because he's good looking as well. But when you're sunny, I guess it's always got... Very good looking. When you're cool, it's always sunny. When you're cool, it's always sunny.

And he's got Jayden Daniels humming right now. And he looks so goddamn chill in these goddamn high pressure situations. And now he's on the doorstep of a Super Bowl. He's knocking that door down. He just has to win one more game. And then he's there. I mean, Cliff is just a quarterback whisperer as well. What is he going to do?

And you've got to be super chill in order to handle all these quarterbacks that he's been handling throughout his whole entire career and taking them to a whole new level. So is he going to take a head coach job? Oh, I'm not sure. I mean, he has the head coach job. He had the head coach job at Arizona. He wants to, though.

He still doesn't think he wants to. I don't think so either, but he's still getting paid by the Cardinals, right? He's making goop. And now he's getting paid by the commander as being the offensive coordinator. Probably a little, though. That's a chill life, though.

You can be more chill as an offensive coordinator than being a head coach. Unless if you're a head coach of a high school team, you can still be chill. And then when you remember watching the draft when he was the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals and like you saw his house. Yeah.

Look like it was crazy, stupid love Ryan Gosling's house and Ryan Gosling over here in the draft war room with the freaking infinity pool in the background. I think he had a dog running around as well. I mean, just a chill guy. I just wanted to go over there and give him a shoulder massage. Man, he could just be more relaxed.

He can't be because he's at chill. He's so chill. Yeah. And that's the chillest dude of the week thanks to our favorite beer Coors Light. Get Coors delivered straight to your house, straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly, guys. Well, that's been another episode of dudes on dudes.

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and we're not fired up, we should just turn around. In between the mics. We should just turn around and just abe ourselves out of here. And then come back again once we're fired up. And see our way back? Yeah, but find our way back, though. I get that. I like it. I like it.

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