Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Myles Garrett and Dick Butkus | Scariest Dudes
Episode Date: October 30, 2025Happy Halloween! On today's episode, Gronk & Jules are embracing spooky season by dressing up as referees and breaking down some of the scariest dudes in league history: Myles Garrett and Dick But...kus. Since we are dressed as referees this week, we will be unveiling a brand new game we're calling "Flag on the Play" in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What type of dinosaur would Julian be and what type of dinosaur I would be?
Because I already know what type of dinosaur I am.
I'm Grancosaurus.
Yeah.
What are you, Jules?
What would you say?
I'm Edelsaurus.
You're Edel Rex.
How many times have you thought about that?
So many.
Welcome to Dudes on Dudes.
I'm Julian Edelman.
And I'm Rob Grancowski.
And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes.
And it's Halloween.
Ooh.
So we're talking about some of the scariest dudes.
in NFL history.
Who are we talking about today?
Well, what makes Miles Garrett so scary.
The terrifying legend of Dick Buck is.
And flag on the play, our favorite referees.
And then we wrap it up by breaking out the penalty flags
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What's up, bro?
Hey, Jules, how you doing?
Clearly, we're dressed up because it's Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
What are you?
I'm a referee.
So am I.
That's a flag already on you, Jules.
Asking me what I am dressed up as.
As you can tell, I'm a referee, brother.
That's true.
That's true.
15-yard penalty unsportsman-like on Jules,
not knowing what I'm dressed up for.
What's the signal for unsportsman-like?
No, is it a hat?
Is it?
Uneligible.
That's an eligible receiver.
On a sportsman like?
This is unsportsman like here.
No, what is unsportsman like?
Here in the nut house, this is.
Personal foul or is it just personal foul?
No.
No, it's this.
Oh, get out of here.
Yeah, no shot.
Unsportsmanlike conduct on Julian for not knowing why I'm dressed up and it's Halloween.
15 yard penalty.
You out of here, Jules.
Happy Halloween, buddy.
Personal foul on Rob.
Well, as we are.
The illegal man dressed downfield.
on grunk.
Hey, we're in this together, Jules.
Who's your favorite ref of all time?
Yeah, well, now that we're dressed as referees,
we have talk about who our favorite ref of all time.
I'm going to go with the Hockley crew.
The Jacked.
You got Ad Hockley, who's the dad,
then you got Sean Hockley, who's the son.
And why do you think they're my favorite referees of all time,
Jules?
Because they're jacked.
They need to start drug testing these refs.
Why?
Because every one of them are jacked now.
They're all jacked.
You can't be looking better than
some of these, like, guys on special teams and some of these, like, the fifth receiver,
these dudes are like way more jacked.
Yeah, but if you got sloppy referees out there who aren't in shape,
how are they going to make calls and run up and down the field?
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, let these referees stay jacked.
I used to love Gene.
They should feed them PEDs.
Yeah, they, yeah.
For their eyes.
Yeah, for their eyes.
Yeah.
I used to love Gene.
Stereator.
Stereator was always, because his son went to Kent State.
And we'd always talk about our days at Kent State.
You always got to butter up the refs.
I like Bill Vinovich.
He was our guy a little bit.
Why do you love Bill Venevich?
Well, he was in the Super Bowl, the catch game.
And I thought they were pretty good.
I thought they were pretty consistent on that one.
Was he also in the...
He did not call a flag on that play.
He did not.
Bill Venevich, we love you.
And then also, I think they were...
Were they that the Chiefs won to him and his gang?
Bill Vinovich didn't touch it.
And he saw that.
You know, I didn't touch the punt and he saw that.
He's got great eyes.
Pereira, our guy at Fox.
Shout out to Mike Pereira.
He's been a while ago.
He was there while ago.
He was there.
Did he ref before our days?
Yeah, I want to say maybe the early.
I don't remember him being on the field when we were playing.
He is a great dude though.
He is.
Great guy to have around the building.
Great water cooler talk guy.
Yes.
When I see him at like the egg station in the avocado room.
Great conversations.
We always talk back because I had the neck surgery.
bad back so we always go uh yeah he was there for our last our year my my rookie year yeah i wonder
if you ever refed us i don't know we're gonna have to ask him well you know since it's halloween
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Standing at 6'4 and 272 pounds, this elite defensive end was the first overall
pick in the 2017 draft after breaking Texas A&M's all-time sack record and earning unanimous
All-American honors.
He has become one of the most feared men in the least.
league, earning six Pro Bowl nominations for all pro selections, all while racking up
14 or more sacks in each of the last four seasons.
Let's get on Miles Garrett.
Jeez, Miles Garrett.
What's the first thing you think of when you hear the name Miles Garrett?
Scary.
Oh, scary.
He said, dude, you see the picture of him when he was 14 years old?
He looked like he was like 30.
Jacked
He's right there
Look right there
It's down there
When he's 14 years old
He does not look 30 in that picture
No but he looks like a kid
Like in middle school
In that picture
And how old was he?
He was 14?
He's 14
Is that middle school?
He's got 17 inch arms
Yeah I mean he's huge for being 14 years old
I mean no one has biceps
Develop and triceps that are that big
And already that size
At 14 years old
You already knew he was going to be a freak of nature
All his friends had to know
he was going to make it pro no matter what already at that age.
I mean, he goes to Texas A&M.
What's up with them in the pass rushers?
Vaughn Miller, Miles Garrett.
Pass rush are you?
You got to have like eight guys coming out of Texas A&M.
Like, you know how Ohio State literally has like six to ten wide receivers
that are all dominant right now, same with LSU.
Iowa.
It's always a fight between those two on who's wide receiver, you, LSU,
Ohio State.
That's because they have like eight guys in the NFL dominated.
Does Texas A&M have any more guys outside of Von Miller and Miles Garrett?
I think they got to.
I think they got some big boy D-Lyman too, I think.
I don't know for a fact.
Well, is there even any other school with two guys that are dominant past rushers in the league right now?
If not, well, then Texas A&M is past rusher you.
Ohio State always has guys.
Bosa's.
Oh, yeah, there we go.
So, no, we can't give Texas any of that credit yet.
Dude, and it's Halloween.
It's perfect that we're going over him because he's like notoriously known to dress up for Halloween.
Look at his costumes over the years.
And he does crazy elite house.
I don't want my daughter to see this house because then she's going to give me pressure to make our house better.
He can't.
Look at he put all the quarterbacks that he has sacked in his graveyard.
You got what, Mack Jones right there?
Patriot's Jersey.
You got Joe Burrow right there.
Who's number seven?
and number eight.
Who are those guys?
He's got Kyler Murray.
Kyleor Murray's in that graveyard?
Right there on the top right.
Number one from the Cardinals.
All right.
You got Lamar Jackson in there.
Yes.
You got Mahomes in there as well.
Oh, is that Mahomes?
That is a fucking awesome.
That 15 red jersey in the back.
Yeah, that is Mahomes.
It's just all the quarterbacks.
I think he has sacked.
He put in his graveyard.
That's pretty legendary.
And look at the car.
That's like a really cool.
Halloween like does he that's when you know you're rich
Halloween status symbol he just went to a junkyard and got like a a
disastered car putting in the graveyard everyone that you sacked this guy is mr.
Halloween that's because he's the scariest player to block on the field Julian
did you have to block him I actually never blocked Miles Gare and I was just talking
about this with what Kyler shout out to Kyler about how I blocked so many of the legendary
pass rushes still in
the NFL today that are all established.
Like you name them.
Name a couple big time passers.
Just Joey Bosa, who's on the Buffalo Bales, never blocked Nick Bosa.
he was the only other one.
Go, keep naming.
Benito.
Bonito's a young buck, like super young.
I'm talking established guys that ever knows their name.
Von Miller, plenty of times.
Who else?
Donald.
Aaron Donald, plenty of times.
Face him plenty of times.
And you never got Miles Garrett?
TJ Watt?
T.J. Watt.
Faced some plenty of times.
of times.
J.J. Watt? J.J. Watt. Hutchinson? He's Young Buck. Young Buck. Yeah. I was retired when
he came to. Brian Burns? Yeah. I've placed him when he was on Carolina when I was in Tampa.
And he's a young buck though. Max Crosby went against him. But Miles Garrett, he played while
I was playing. That's one of the only past rushers in the league right now that's very established
that I never went against. And I'm kind of glad I never did. Dude. I am super glad. I want to want to
go versus him. He like, why? He looks like he's not human.
You want to know what's wild about Miles Garrett is just how big he is, how muscular he is.
Usually those guys are dense and you could tell that they're dense.
He's very functional with how big he is.
He's very fluid, you know, with his strength.
Usually when guys are that, Jack, you're more robotic and you can just go up the field and you can't really bend.
And you can't really explode how you want to explode because nothing's working from A to Z because
you're kind of clogged up with all that muscle.
This guy has all that muscle, and he's super fluid.
He has rare explosives.
You see him dunk?
Tremendous athleticism.
Have you seen him on the basketball court?
He goes on like celebrity courts all the time.
He can do the windmill dunks.
I mean, it's impressive.
This guy is a freak of nature, and that's why he's so scary to block.
He really is.
He set the Brown single season sack record with how many?
16.
And I think he can get more.
He's one of those, I think he had three sacks last week, or week seven.
I think he's one of those guys where if he had help on the other side.
Micah, did you block Micah?
I played versus Micah, his very first game of his career when he was on the Dallas Cowboys.
It was my last season with Tampa Bay, so I won against him.
Yeah, so I went against that new buck, new era of past rushers.
You know what's also been really cool about Miles Garrett?
You've seen his growth as a player.
I mean, this was the guy who took another guy's helmet off
and almost beat him with it, Mason Rudolph.
And then, like, now he seems like he's like the face of the Browns
and he seems like he's grown from that whole situation
and how he handles the media.
I know there's been some, you know, in the offseason when he was there,
he wanted to leave, but like he, whenever he handles himself with the media on camera,
I feel like he's always like super well-spoken.
and he sounds like a great dude,
he sounds like a leader,
and he has that demand of that locker room.
Yeah, he sure does, and they all respect him.
And his opponents respect him as well.
It's not like anyone's coming out,
like, oh, F. Miles Garrett, this, that about him.
They all just show him respect and the honor that he deserves.
And I think that was a little uncharacteristic.
I mean, the heat of the moment, the emotions going on,
all the hitting in the NFL.
You can get highly tense,
and I think that just that Mason Rudolph,
incident wasn't, you know, his character. And that, that happens. You see fights happen all the time
in the NFL. I mean, the guy from the Houston wide receiver, Andre Johnson.
Andre Johnson and what's his name? Coral and Finnegan. Finnegan. I mean, they went all out
battle. I mean, that happens in the NFL. In the heat of the moment, I mean, you're kind of like in
survival mode sometimes. So you never seen them really have a mistake since then or before that.
So kind of could have been just because of the heat of the moment.
So you got to appreciate how he represents himself
and how he handled the situation after all that too.
1,000% and the cool thing about him,
he may look like a football player,
but he has so many other interests that he shows.
You know, this guy loves dinosaurs.
We already saw he does Halloween.
He goes above and beyond.
He's got a lot of like cool, quirky shit.
about him that like you wouldn't expect.
Well, he did look like a corky guy at 14 years old.
He did look corky.
So this kind of makes sense.
It kind of makes sense.
He's got a huge obsessing with Jurassic Park, which is freaking awesome.
He said he might pursue a PhD in patholo, paleontology.
Paleontology.
Is that dinosaurs?
He wants to be the guy from Jurassic Park.
I mean, if he becomes a guy from Jurassic Park,
I want him to call us up and bring him on that ride.
No, I want to go to that island.
That's what I mean.
I want to go to that island.
I want to see dinosaurs.
With Miles Garrett.
Yes.
I want to go.
I would feel safe with Miles Garrett if we discover dinosaurs again.
Velociraptor's got nothing on Miles Garrett.
T.
Rex.
Yeah.
T.
We still are dead because we can't outrun him.
You usually always got to outrun everyone.
He's faster than us right now.
He's stronger than us.
I mean, he's the richest guy that's,
not a quarterback. He's making 40 a year.
How fucking nuts is that?
He deserves it, though. He literally
is a game wrecker. If you watch
him play, like
the whole offense, they
slide everyone to Miles Garrett,
which makes the other guys
be able to eat on that defensive line.
You know, they all get the credible
matchups, and he's got to play
team ball, like every game.
He's in the same category as
Donald to me.
Do you think that Miles Garrett,
ever come close to touching the NFL season sack record.
I mean, I would say so if he had some help on the other side, you know, that someone that
would compliment him and take some of the double teams off of him.
This guy's probably getting double teamed on a continuous basis.
Triple team, double team.
I mean, why wouldn't you?
Running back.
Why would you let him one on one that wouldn't make sense?
If he had other guys in the defensive line to help him out, I think he could come close to
touching the NFL season sack record.
You know what?
he's the type of guy
that can get hot
at any time.
Like if he plays a really bad team,
it doesn't surprise me if he gets like a five-sac game
because he's that, you know what I mean?
He's that big of a problem.
Now, 22 and a half sacks is the record.
That's no fucking walk in the park.
No, not at all.
But I'm never going to,
you can never just say this guy will never reach that
because he's got what it takes to do it.
Yeah, he needs help on the other side,
but he can still maybe do it without a guy
who knows what's he at right now through weeks seven weeks he's at five right now through you know he'll get it
going but you can't even just talk sacks with him list how many pressures do you think he has put in
on quarterbacks a million a million pressures to where the quarterback feels it in the pocket and it
has to throw the ball away or makes a bad throw or makes an interception because of miles garrett
i mean and that's not considered a sack and that might be even a bigger play and in the scheme of
things even though he didn't get a sack. I'm already thinking about like when we get Miles Garrett
to come on dudes on dudes. He's probably going to go over like a dinosaur specialist. Like that's the
guy he's going to talk about he's not even going to talk about a football player. He's going to talk about
some pathological or what is it? Pay the penithillotid dinosaur doctor. Dinosaur doctor. He's going to
talk about a dinosaur doctor. And then I would ask him like what type of dinosaur would Julian be and what
type of dinosaur I would be because I already know what type of dinosaur I am I'm granosaurus yeah what are you
Jules what would you say I'm etylsaurus edelsaurus no you're not you're etl rex that just sounded better
I think I can't be the same dinosaur I don't have a lot raptor you know I have a lot of raptor I'm
Edel Raptor.
Your Edel Raptor.
You got to, you know,
put part of your name in it.
Yeah.
How many times have you thought about that?
So many.
Like a thousand times in my life.
He's probably,
Edward Dinker Cope.
Is this the famous,
these are like some of the famous doctors.
You think he knows,
he probably knows all these people
or he's looked him up.
He's gone down Google.
He might be related to them.
Not from the looks of it.
But, uh,
yeah.
Jack Horner.
Henry Fairfield, Henry Fairfield, Osborne, Lordfield, Charles Marsh, Edwin H. Colbert.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say maybe not related to them.
And because this segment is presented by Dude Wipes, what is his cleanest moment in his career,
Jules?
Well, I know his non-cleanest.
His dirtiest moment was when he beat up Mason Rudolph with his helmet.
And that's when Dude Wipes comes in the play and you clean it up.
that up. And he sure did. And he cleaned it up. And he cleaned it up perfectly. Thanks to
dude wipes. And now he's the highest paid guy. It's not a quarterback. But how about that one?
Didn't he remember he did the Jamie Collins, jumped over the field goal? That's the exact play.
I was going to say was the cleanest game in his career. It wasn't just that he blocked that
field goal. He jumped over. He had some Jamie Collins-ish in him with that play. It was so clean
when he jumped over the line. But wasn't it in a game where he went off as well with a with a couple
sacks? Strip sack. Strip sack. What else did he do that game? Like it was.
was a clean, clean game just overall. And then the field goal block was just gravy on top.
That that's 1,000% his dude wipes cleanest moment for sure. Time.
What kind of dude is Miles Garrett? I mean, this is the easiest of all easy.
It really is. I mean, being that size, that fast, that explosive. He's got all of it and it seems
that big of a Halloween
enthusiast.
You know what he is.
On three, one, two, three.
Freak!
I mean, he's a freakleek all over the place.
The way he dresses up for Halloween.
The way he can jump.
The way he can sack quarterbacks.
He's a dinosaur doctor and he's like the most scary human being in the freaking league.
Here's an idea for him.
That's a freak.
He's got brains and he's got body.
That is freaky.
And here's an idea.
You know,
Do you know those sacks you put on to have a race, you're racing sacks?
That's what he should be for Halloween.
A potato sack?
A potato sack because he sacks so many quarterbacks.
Wow, I'm a genius.
That, wow.
You know what?
Who says I'm not smart?
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For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved,
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Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
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I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said.
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i think our shelf could use a little refresh yeah definitely i agree jules
because there is a lot of your stuff on here like why is none of my stuff on here
or tom stuff or dollar stuff or or on here the defense
of players that we played with.
I got a bunch of those things.
Like, come on.
Like, oh, it's just all your stuff, Jules.
It is my house.
All right.
Oh, it is your house.
But I did want to get something unique
that screams, gronks.
So that's why.
Well, what did you get?
I went to eBay.
eBay.
Where you can find exactly what you need
for anything that you're looking for,
anything.
And you can find it on eBay.
There's millions of things to buy on eBay, Jules.
What could you have possibly got?
But the online shopping on eBay is a little different because you can get anything.
Everything you buy on eBay has a story and it makes it a little more special, Robbie.
Rare and meaningful.
Yeah, that's right because I used to buy my paintball guns on eBay when I was in seventh grade.
And that was very meaningful to me because I got the light up my brothers on the paintball course.
And I bought my paintballs and paintball guns from eBay.
And I still remember it to this day and that was seventh grade.
Early 2000s.
And I always got half off.
I knew how to make deals.
On the early 2000s,
I think everybody went through a stage
where I sold everything I had on eBay.
eBay was the place to be
to survive as a kid.
Yeah, you go baseball cards, anything,
electronics, CDs, we're just selling everything.
But here, I got you.
Oh, thanks, Jules.
Shall I open it right now?
Open it up.
All right.
I love the eBay rapping, too.
You know, they always wrap it tight.
and write.
What do we have?
What we have?
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
Is this a Thad Castle signed Jersey from Blue Mountain State?
Thank you, your very favorite show.
Are you trying to say I'm Thad Castle?
I'm not saying your Thad Castle, but I remember we were talking about it, and you kept on talking
and bringing this guy up, and you're like, you got to watch this show.
You got to watch his show.
And so I, you know, I thought it'd be good.
This brings me happiness, Jules, because like you said, when you go on eBay and you get a gift, it's rare and it's meaningful.
And you want to know why this is meaningful right here?
Why is this meaningful?
Well, first off, when I broke my forearm, I was in the hospital for about two weeks or like 10 days because it got infected and we needed it to heal.
So I stayed in the hospital.
I think it was more realistically five days, five nights.
That's a long time in a hospital just for an arm injury.
And Nate Dogg, you know nasty Nate Dogg.
He knows every show.
So he recommended, hey, hey, you're going to love Blue Mountain State.
You're not even going to know you're in the hospital if you put on Blue Mountain State.
Well, Blue Mountain State I put on and I watch every single episode in those five days.
And it became my favorite show.
And Thad Castle was my favorite character.
I loved everything about it.
And it got me through those tough days in the hospital.
So thank you, Jules.
Thank you eBay for this wonderful gift.
You know what?
Everyone's got to go shop eBay for millions of fines.
Each with the story like this, eBay, things people love.
And there are millions of fines like this on eBay as well.
From pre-love fashion to collectibles, even vehicles or car parts.
Shop on eBay to find exactly what you're looking for.
All right, let's get into the next dude.
All right, let's get into the next dude on this scary Halloween.
Before we get into him real quick, what's your favorite costume you ever dressed up as?
Rambo.
Growing up as a kid, Jules.
Rambo?
When I was six years old.
That's cool.
I had the rubber, like, abs and stuff.
Yeah.
And the shirt that was ripped so you could see my abs.
And I had, like, the bullets around my net or my body.
I think I even brought a gun to school, like one of those fake guns.
Yeah, those plastic guns.
Totally cool in the 80s, 90s.
Yeah, back in those days.
Yeah.
And did you, like, go around and pretend to shoot your friends too?
All day.
A little bit like, you're dead.
I was, like, crawling in the, like, the mud and stuff.
Yeah.
What about you?
My favorite outfit, I would say, I dressed up as a girl in, like, fourth grade.
Yeah?
Yeah, pretty, you know, pretty weird.
I was a wacko, you know?
I put a little wig on.
And you know those softballs that I,
yellow like those baseballs you put those in as i put those in as as my jugs and i went into school
like that in fourth grade yeah pretty ridiculous i was out of control as a kid so i got away with it
but like that's kind of like what did your representation of what did your brothers do that i mean i was
just so out of hand like people would just laugh at me no matter what there was no stop at me
as a kid i can tell you that call my mom and my dad and just ask about me as a kid and that that represents
me perfectly me dressing up as a girl and acting like a chick in fourth grade
Yeah, pretty legendary.
That's legendary.
But also I dressed up as a garbage man too, got all dirty, nasty clothes.
I put 15 different clones on me, smelled like complete ass and went to school like that.
It was horrific.
I didn't care.
I probably broke the membranes in my brain that smell things.
But that's okay.
Oh, my God.
That's all out.
That's all out.
Let's jump into AI.
All right.
Let's do it.
Let's get on to our.
Next scary dude here.
What is this one?
This guy is 6'4 3, a 245 pound linebacker,
and he was the third overall pick in the 1965 NFL draft.
Wow.
This guy's a legend.
1965, and we're still talking about him.
Still talking about him.
Here in 2025, earning eight Pro Bowls,
a five all-time Probe selection.
a Hall of Fame honors in 1979.
A Chicago native, he starred at Illinois as a two-time All-American
and Big Ten MVP after a decorated high school career.
Known for bone crushing tackles,
he redefined the defensive dominance.
Let's get on.
Dick Buckus.
Dick Buckus.
What's the first thing you think of?
Right there.
Jules, there you are, is Rambo.
Oh, look at you.
man. I love that ammo around
around your shoulder as well, man.
You can't prepare.
Nah, bro. The paint, the black face.
No, it's not black face. Remember
in the wood he put his shit on? Yeah.
That's just, that's kind of like I black boy
on your whole face. So you can
blind in the woods better. First thing
I think of about Dick Buckus.
Yeah, what's the first thing you think of? Besides
an inappropriate first name.
Well, that's what
I know you're thinking of. No. Yeah. I am.
That's the first thing.
I think of like, wow, he must have had a huge piece if that's your name.
Yeah.
I think his name was Richard and they call people Richard Dick, but first thing I think of,
just old school football.
Oh, he was Richard.
Yeah.
Oh, all right.
All Richards are Dick.
You know that, right?
I didn't know that.
If you're Richard, you could be.
I thought Richards, you are a dick, but you can also just be named Dick, but not Richard.
No, I don't think anyone's just named Dick.
yeah dick sporting goods that is that is correct that is correct
they're not richard sporting goods are all richards dicks yeah uh yeah all richards are dicks
that is correct if you use the nickname i i have a good one i just went i just had a monster
appearance and my uh security guy name was richard and he goes yeah everyone knows me as
uh monster dick security monster dick and like that was pretty cool i thought that was cool
Sorry.
But it goes to the point, anyone named Richard is dick.
So I was like, oh, my security guard has a monster dick.
That's what I was thinking.
I'm protected.
I'm productive.
So, yeah, if you're Richard, yeah, you're dick.
Okay.
Back to Dick Buccas.
Dick Buckees.
Oh, look it.
He's got butt in his last name too.
I mean.
This guy is very scary.
That is scary.
Is it, he tore the offense fucking offensive lines ass.
He shredded them.
Like, that's why, that's why butt in his name tore their asses apart.
on that football field.
I mean, that is, is that a Mount Rushmore or football name?
It might be.
Zig buckets.
It's top.
It's top name.
It's one of the top names.
What are some other big names?
I mean, he also had other nicknames as well.
The animal, the enforcer, the maestro.
Maestrow of Mayhem.
That was me as a kid, by the way.
Like, well, how we were just talking about me dressing up as a kid.
I was the maestrel of Mayhem.
Oh, and the robot of destruction.
Oh, that was also me, too, walking into rooms.
and just me being on the field as a kid.
Me and Dick are very similar.
Do you ever meet him?
Have I ever met him?
He's not alive anymore, is he?
He died recently the last like five years.
I don't think I ever got to meet him.
I never got to meet him either,
but I was just watching some highlight films of him, man,
and I just loved the way that he plays.
And he has to be one of those first true linebackers
where it's like he's huge.
Yeah.
Like being that size.
$2.45 back then's huge.
Exactly. He looked bigger than offense alignment.
He looked bigger than defensive.
defense alignment. I love the way that he wore his shoulder pads. It made him just look even bigger than
everyone else because they were like stalky. He was like he wore those fullback shoulder pads a little bit,
but at the linebacker position. But what I really loved about his game is that he ran after the ball carrier
like there was no one else in his way. Like he would just run. A lineman would come and block him.
But it's like he could see through the lineman. He could run right through the lineman. He can avoid that
lineman that's coming out of. And he would get to the ball carrier every.
every single time. Someone falls on the ground in front of him. Somehow, even though he's staring at the
ball carrier, he would leap over the guy that's on the ground instead of tripping over him. It's like
nothing was stopping him from getting to that ball carrier. And that's what defines a great
legendary linebacker is they see ball carrier, get the ball carrier, tackle ball carrier. And that was
Dick Buccas. And that's why he was one of the scariest guys to block because it's so hard to block a guy
that their motive is just to get the tackle
because they can just swoop right around you,
run through you.
They just don't see you, Jules.
No, I mean, I've seen some highlights of him
where he just literally, like, I've seen him close-armed people.
Like, that was, the game back then was basically just like murder on a field.
It was like, these guys were poking each other's eyeballs.
Freaking, it was just a completely different game.
And whenever you talk to anyone of like, who's a historian of this game,
they always talk about Dick Buckus.
And we even said it, you know, talking about him 60 years later,
his impact on the game was clearly insane.
They say he had a 4-540 back then at 2.45.
I mean, that's just crazy.
He's hard-nosed, had speed and range.
was able to side line.
The sideline to sideline talk.
Oh, he was so good at that.
So good.
That was because of Dick Buccas.
You know, that's where they got the term,
sideline to sideline.
And it was pretty cool that he played his whole football career
in the state of Illinois.
You know, he went to University of Illinois,
played for the Bears.
And he's a legend.
He's just an absolute legend.
He played with the ferocity.
of an angered animal,
Hall of Fame coach George Allen on Dick Buccas.
The first time I saw Buccas,
I started packing my gear.
There was no way that guy wasn't going to be great.
Bill George, Buckus' predecessor at linebacker for the Bears.
This is one of my favorite quotes right here by Bears Center.
Mike Pyle.
Yeah, yeah, Mike Pyle.
Yes, yes.
And just trying to get Buccas to go easier in practice,
because I kind of did that.
this sometimes.
Brother-in-law.
They call that brother-in-law.
Brother-in-law in practice,
and I did it plenty of times,
especially with Ninko.
I got to give credit to Ninkovich.
I mean, he wasn't a great cover guy.
You know,
he's kind of mind-boggled
every single day as well.
But this guy has low
center of gravity, Ninkovitch,
and it was so hard to block him.
He had so much power.
So I always tried to become buddies with him.
Yeah.
Because I wanted to, you know,
beef 100% for games on Sunday.
And I just can't pound my head
against Ninkovich every day.
I already knew that.
So this is a trick I like by Mike Pyle
because I would try to butter up Ninkovich
is that I spend all this money
buying him dinner and beer and stuff like that
so he wouldn't take it out on me in the scrimages.
Like that just explains how good Dick Buccas was
and how Hardy played.
But do not put Ninkovitch in the same sentence with Dick Buccas.
Absolutely not.
I was just putting him in the same sentence.
They are in both Chicago guys.
Yeah, they're both from Illinois
and how I just buttered up Ninko's just
because that's the only skill he had was coming off the line and trying to hit me.
No.
I just,
no,
what do you mean?
No,
I just say,
don't give him credit.
He rags on us 24-7.
Yeah,
we can't get all with Nico too bad.
He might.
Yeah, he might get all sad.
I'll hang out with him next week.
He had more skills than just coming off the line.
He actually had over 50 sacks in his career.
He did.
We hear about it every time.
Yeah, we do.
We do.
And the most full.
or the most fumble recoveries or something I've done.
And the most underpaid white linebacker defensive event ever play.
But no who wasn't under,
well, Dick Buccas was probably underpaid too back in those days.
He probably made $300 a game.
He really did.
Yeah, 1965.
Did he have a job out of the season?
Probably.
That's how it was back then.
Remember we did the day?
Were you there with Coach Belichick where we did the day where we were supposed to be
from like the 30s or something or the 40s?
were they took out like all the breakfast and they just gave you coffee and like cereal and like people
were smoking cigarettes in practice and stuff you know what I mean did you see that you remember that day
no I don't I wonder what year that was we did like a time lapse thing it was like a time lapse
team building day where we were going to see how it was back in the day when I think you were a
rookie when this happened and I wasn't on the team yet no maybe it was the year you left or you retired yeah
I just wasn't there for it.
You weren't that one.
No.
It was pretty crazy that they lived like that.
But let's get back to Dick Buckus, okay?
He made an immediate impact.
His rookie season, five interceptions, seven fumble recoveries.
And I just loved the way when he picked up the ball.
He would just go full speed as well.
Full speed.
And become a ball carrier.
He was just so great to watch.
He was entertaining.
He had incredible career at Illinois,
he's All-American, played center and linebacker.
I mean, he had the size.
Like I said, he was bigger than these offensive line at the time.
He looks like a football player.
He does.
He is, he's the definition of a football player.
One of the first guys to wear a bullring, I think, too.
Was he one of that?
That was like, that's, he made the bullring for middle linebacker.
That, that was like a, if you were a badass middle linebacker, you had the bullring.
And I think it was because of Dick Buccas.
In 1970, 1970, we're talking a year after 1969.
I don't know why I just brought that up, but I'm, I,
just kind of felt like I should have just popped up in my mind.
He signed a multi-year contract extension that remained in Chicago.
And the contract, the contract raised a salary from $50,000 per year to around $80,000 to $100,000 per year.
And we're talking a complete football player.
And he was just making $100,000 a year.
But $100,000 back in 1970.
Yeah.
I mean, it was probably like, like $2 million now.
Maybe something like that.
We don't, Rob probably did the math.
Yeah, it was about $2 million.
It was about $2 million right there.
So he was all right.
He was fine.
He had money.
They didn't even keep.
He probably didn't have to pay for a single thing, though, in the state of Illinois.
No, this guy didn't know nothing.
Even his center was buying him beer.
Yeah.
Yeah, this guy didn't have to pay for a thing.
Hey, do you think he could have covered you, Jules?
No.
Yeah, I know.
I was watching him cover guys.
Back in those days, they didn't really have the athleticism.
If he got his hands on me.
Yeah, he could have kind of pulled you.
They probably with his, he would have like probably like just tackled me.
Yeah, exactly.
And that would have been allowed.
Because he would have only had to tackle you in order to cover you.
But we would have smoked him back in day.
I saw him in coverage.
But I wouldn't say we would smoke him in the run game.
I think he would run right through us.
But man, in the past game, I would give it to us.
Chaste, Lions running back,
Altie Taylor into the stands.
That's how scary this Joker is.
Taylor told a reporter he thought,
Buckus was overrated.
After Taylor stepped out of bounds to avoid a hit in the game,
Buckus kept chasing him all the way to the stands of Soldier Field.
I love it.
I love it.
Time.
Dick Buccas, scary player.
And rest in peace to Dick, he passed away a few years ago,
and we're talking about him to this day, one of the founding fathers of this league.
And thank you to Dick Buccas for, you know, setting the standard of what it
is to be a football player.
Not an athlete out there and be a freak of nature.
A football player, just going out there and dominating on the football field.
Thank you, Dick.
I mean, he could probably be a bunch of these things.
He was such a huge dude, ran four or five, obviously has dog tendencies.
But I think it's one thing when you look at him.
It just stands out.
And like what I really,
really like about him as well is that stash that he has that stash just stands out to me and just
made him that much more scary yeah so what kind of duties on three one two three stud
yeah he's got his center buying him beers uh he got that stash that i just brought up i got to bring
it up again because we didn't talk about it at all i mean just the way he can go from sideline to
sideline and he's been he's been the like role model for every middle linebacker
since.
Like everyone talks about Dick Buckus.
Ray Lewis talks about Dick Buccas.
Like Fred Warner probably talks about Dick Buccas.
I don't know if he does, but probably.
Probably.
Probably because that's how studly he was.
He's like what you look up, middle linebacker.
I would actually once say probably Fred Warner, he may talk about him,
but the position evolved a little bit, and I would say Fred Warner's
and the newer side of the evolving of the position.
guys like Ray Lewis, Brian Erlacker,
like those big studded guys that are true middle linebackers
that were there to stop the run.
Those are the guys that look up to Dick Buck's.
Complete football players just out there to smash fools
that are carrying the ball.
I mean, he's like the originator of the linebacker in Chicago,
and they've had some hell of a line.
They've had elite linebackers, single Terry, Erlacker.
I mean, the list goes...
Lance Briggs.
Briggs.
They got linebackers.
and he was one of the first.
He was one of the first.
Oh, wow.
Dick Buckus did tweet before he passed.
And this is his tweet we found.
I love this guy even more.
I think it's great, Giselle let Tom Brady retire.
Hopefully she'll let him keep Grob Gronkowski in the yard.
That's not him.
That's definitely not Dick Bucke's tweeting.
It's got to be like his PR team or something or, yeah, a grandson or a kid.
But still, I run.
really, really like that tweet.
Like, it's just funny.
What are some other than tweets?
Hey, Aaron Rogers 12.
And if I'm allowed in the yard, which I still am,
Jules, you're coming with me.
I'm not going to Tom's yard, you know, without Jules.
I'll go in the yard.
Yeah, but you're going, like, we're not going without each other.
No, no.
And we're going to bring more people as well.
Yeah, we'll go in the yard.
And then listen to this one.
Hey, Aaron Rogers 12, help me get verified or more than your toe will be hurting.
he's a funny guy he is funny
I actually do remember him he made a big splash on twitter
when he came on and everyone's like
dude dick buckets is a must follow
like this guy's legendary he's just throwing out quotes
that are unheard of and and I actually never
followed him and never looked and now here we are
to this day this is the most football treat right here
all you need to do is score more points
than the other team to win sports are not that hard people
yes it's not that complicated
That's why I love Dick.
I'm a simpleton.
Everyone knows that.
Yeah.
You know, I just don't love all the details when it's just so unnecessary.
Dick, thank you for explaining the game of football that easily.
I totally understand what you're saying.
I do too.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Roberto. Thank you, Jules.
Cheers to you, brother.
Cheers, bobs.
Cores like cold as the Rockies.
Always blue.
And since we're dressed as referees today,
as you can tell,
we're going to play a little game.
We're calling flag on the play.
Basically, we're going to go through
some situations that might go down in the locker room.
Then we're going to throw a flag
if it goes down in the locker room
or then we're not throwing a flag
if it doesn't go down in the locker room.
For example, Jules,
like not wearing flip-flops in the locker room showers.
Like, I'm throwing a flag on that.
Throwing a flag because you want to be wearing flip-flops in the locker room shower.
That was an easy example.
Let's get into it.
Let's play this game.
I love games.
I love activities.
That's what I live for.
Here we are.
News game of my life.
Flag on the play presented by Coryslight.
Here we go.
You definitely got to get a little bit tipsy for this one.
Yeah.
What do we got?
Making no attempt to cover up in the,
in the locker room.
Oh, I'm already going to go first.
I'm a referee, and I'm going to throw no flag on myself
because I'm always free balling it.
I'm letting everyone see my junk.
Anyways, it's so tiny.
No one can even see it anyway,
so I wasn't really worried about it.
Yeah, I mean, it's the locker room.
It's pretty much anything flies.
Yeah, but you kind of want to wear a towel.
You wear a towel, but sometimes.
But not me.
Sometimes guys wouldn't.
I'm throwing a flag on you,
because you should wear a towel of jewels.
Why do I have to wear it?
Because you're very hairy
and I don't want to see how hairy
your thingy is down there.
Yeah, I get pretty hairy down there.
Yeah, you're a squirrel.
Very.
Yeah, a furry squirrel.
All right,
let's go into the next one.
And plus, like, it's me.
Like, I'm allowed to, you know, not cover up.
Rob does.
Time to get away with more rules.
Rob would just have, like, his towel around his freaking neck
and just have his...
Are you blushing that I'm talking about going to the shower, not covered up?
Is that what the sneeze was for?
No.
No.
I just sneezed.
Yeah.
You just sneezed.
Next one.
So did you throw a flag on yourself?
No.
I don't cover.
I mean, I would cover up, but I wouldn't cover up.
No.
Yeah.
Okay, you cover up going into the shower.
I take everything back.
I'm saying we cover up going into the shower.
But you won't cover up in the shower.
It's a locker room.
Yeah.
Like what locker room?
Like, yeah, who covers up?
No one covers.
Yeah, no one. I mean, when you're in like middle school you do, you wear your shorts into the shower.
I didn't start showering with dudes until I got to college. We didn't do it in high school.
Yeah, it was hockey. Hockey you did only growing up as a kid.
All right. How about it the next one? Taking your shoes off on the plane.
Oh, oh, okay. So you're throwing a flag because you're allowed to take your shoes off on the plane, right?
No, I'm throwing my flags because you're not allowed to take your shoes off when you go to the bathroom.
but if you're in a first class seat and you have a lie down,
you could take your shoes off if the feet aren't touching.
And it is still kind of dirty.
But I do take my shoes off if I have like a lie down seat.
But I'm not taking my shoes off if I'm standing or if I'm sitting the whole time.
Yeah, I like to take my shoes off.
It like makes my barefoot, don't you?
No, no, I have socks on.
You go barefoot to the bathroom.
It lets my feet breathe.
But then I always put my shoes back on when I go to the bathroom.
So am I throwing a flat?
here or not.
I don't know.
No, no flag.
I'm a no flag guy.
I'm taking my shoes off, but
when it's time to go to the bathroom,
I put my shoes back on
majority of the time.
God.
Yeah.
Sometimes I get really, like, if you're really lazy.
You're tired.
Tired.
And you're just thinking your head like,
yo, like they just cleaned the bathroom
before takeoff.
Like, I'm good.
I saw them cleaning the floor.
I'm not going to lie.
I just put that in my head.
I have for,
long flights internationally.
I have brought flip flops on my carry-on for that.
Not flip-flops, but like slides.
So next one, sending gifts in team-related group chats.
Yeah, you definitely send gifts.
I send gifts on everything.
Yeah.
Especially on, who doesn't?
I think I threw a gift.
I think I threw a gifted bill once.
Here's a gift.
Me throwing a flag.
Yeah.
That's a GIF.
That's more like a GIF.
Do you call it a GIF or a GIF?
Jif is a peanut butter.
Yeah, same, same, same, same, same.
Yeah.
No flag.
But it is a GIF.
Is it a GIF?
Is it a GIF.
Do people say GIFs or GIFs?
Yeah, no flag.
I mean, everyone's sending gifts.
Gifts are kind of what makes a response better than a real response that's written out.
A GIF explains more sometimes than an actual response.
1,000%.
Yeah.
And it makes it more relatable.
when you'd use a gift majority of the time too,
when it's the right situation.
So gifts are always allowed, always.
Even if it's not a group chat, one-on-one.
1,000% gifts are in play for everyone.
Gifts are in play at all times.
No flag on the play there.
How about doing a TikTok dance in the locker room?
Oh, yeah, that's a flag on the play.
Because locker room, it's like locker room talk.
It never leaves the locker room.
Same with anything else that goes on in the locker room.
room. If you're going to do a TikTok dance, go do it on the field where the field is public to
public eyes, parking lot at the home, wherever, practice field. You don't do it in the locker room.
Whatever happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. It should be the sacred place.
Yes. It should be a sacred place. Thank you. We're sounding old. Yes. Because all these
jokers are fucking tic-tok in locker rooms. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
That's a big time flag. That's actually like two flags on the play. It's like a personal fall and a hold.
That's a personal foul after a, that's a personal foul after a intentional grounding.
So it's a loss of down and you're getting 15 back.
Yeah, that is exactly what it is.
How about sleeping in a team meeting?
Got to flag that one.
Yeah, you got to flag it, but I'm the referee that saw it,
but didn't feel like throwing the flag because that guy just needs some sleep, you know?
like because you don't want to be flagged like you like you when you fall asleep it's on accident it's not like
you're walking into the meeting room like i'm going to fall asleep like sometimes meetings are just
boring and you fall asleep so i don't want to flag the person especially you always try to wake your
friend up before he gets the flag yeah that's why i'm not throwing the flag but you're you're you're in
coaching mind right now jules that's why you threw the flag yeah but i also if it also you get a flag it's like it's like
the NFL.
You only get the flag if you're someone important.
Or if you're not,
if you're someone important, you get the flag or not,
you don't get the flag.
But if you're someone who's not,
you get a flag.
There you go.
So rookies,
you get flag sleeping in team.
Not even rookies,
but guys that are trying,
like not making plays or like fucking up continually.
Or making mistakes.
You can't fucking sleep in there, bro.
We need you.
But if you just had a big game,
200 yards, touchdown,
you're allowed to sleep.
you need the rest so you can do it again.
So yeah, it depends on the situation.
That's a good referee.
Pletting the gameplay and using the flag only when necessary.
Do business when business is being done.
You want to know when the flag shouldn't have been thrown?
This is a bad referee.
So say right there, Julian, you fell asleep in the meeting room and you had 200 yards that
game.
You don't deserve the flag to be thrown on you.
Well, guess what?
Say the referee through the flag.
That's kind of the same scenario as the referee throwing the flag.
on the past interference of Stefan Diggs versus the New Orleans Saints two weeks ago.
That was one of the worst calls ever.
You don't throw the flag on that situation.
Even if it was past interference and it wasn't, it was still a non-impact play.
It was over there on that side of the field and Drake May threw it that way deep.
You don't throw the flag.
That's like throwing the flag on Julian in a team meeting room after 200-yard game.
1,000%.
You know, the NFL is not equal.
I really like this game.
The NFL is not equal.
Life isn't equal.
But it's fair.
But it is.
Life is fair, but not equal.
That's why we love the NFL.
The NFL is not equal.
Like life.
But it's fair.
Like life.
That's what Jimmy Johnson used to say.
Yeah.
Like life.
You got to figure out your trick.
You got to figure out what suits you.
Got to figure out what suits you.
All right.
What you do best to help out.
And not everyone does the same.
All right.
I got one.
All right.
Dude, I really like this game.
What about taking the ox cord
in mid-song.
Also, this goes in the same category as last.
This is operational flagging.
If you got a rookie up in the wait room
and he's fucking blaring his music
and you're about to come in
and get your fucking work in,
you can go in because you got ears on them
and you can put that thing whenever you want.
But he can't do that.
That's when the flag is thrown.
He comes in, you're flagging him.
You're flagging him.
You're flagging the rookie
that thinks he can control the music in the wait room.
Remember Mike Wysick, the coach?
Every Monday.
Any rookie, he would just throw...
It was just like country music, right?
It was just like country music.
Slow country music.
That's when there used to be.
Oh.
So, yeah, situational flagging here.
That's situational.
Situational flag.
Cable midsong.
That's situational flag.
So we're going to throw a flag on that one, though.
Last one.
Slapping a teammate on the butt after a nice play.
that's that's that's that's that's called the league yeah that is that's football that's no flag right
there that's just saying hey buddy great job you're allowed to do that there's no sexual harassment
in this case on the football field it's just common knowledge that you can slap other teammates
butts after great plays now if you're just doing it out of random that could definitely be a flag
but after after a nice play nice play no flag at all no flag at all that's just masculinity yes
now what about slapping an opposing team guy on the ass
that's a flag that's a flag jules
why would you do that
like nice play to an opposing player
or just doing it to do it
that's see both of those situations flag
flag flag flag flag flag
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