Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Patrick Mahomes, Fred Warner, and Tom Brady | Chiefs vs. 49ers

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Rob Gronkowski & Julian Edelman are getting on dudes from this Sunday's game of the week: the Kansas City Chiefs vs. the San Francisco 49ers. In honor of this highly anticipated matchup, we're talking the Chief's Patrick Mahomes, the 49ers' Fred Warner, and FOX's Tom Brady. We’re talking what it’s like to chug beers with a rookie Patrick Mahomes. We breakdown Fred Warner and the “new age linebacker."  Gronk and Jules talk about the most annoyed Tom Brady ever made them. Then we wrap it up by categorizing some of celebrity dudes using our patented Dude classification system.  Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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favorite dude. On today's episode, we're talking about some serious dudes. Serious. We got Patrick Mahomes. I mean, good thing I didn't have a foot long, you know, in my hand when I met him. That would have been a little awkward. Fred Warner. I don't know what he was doing. I think he was smelling the grass. Whatever he did, he let you know the first player that practice. He set a tempo. And the goat, Tom Brady. There's a lot of things Tom Brady did to piss us off, but it was. all because he was the ultimate leader. We'll break down their games,

we'll share some insider's stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. And then we wrap it up by categorizing some celebrity dude. Matthew McConaughey. T. Swift? Noop Dog. Let's go. Let's go.

The Chiefs and 49ers game this week on Fox is going to be amazing. So we're going to be sticking to guys from this marquee matchup to talk about. All right. So, First one. Bam, bum, bum, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, bum. Our first guy we're talking about.

Hold on, Jules, I'll help you out. I'll put the little. There we go. Patrick Levan Mahomes the second. Should we start the clock? Remember, we have 10 minutes to talk about each dude to determine on what dude these dudes are. So let's start the clock. ready, set, go.

Rob, let's start with AI. Patrick Mahomes is an elite NFL quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. Known for his incredible arm strength, agility, and leadership, leading his team to multiple Super Bowl victories. Few. Not a couple, a few.

What, three Super Bowls, been to how many, four, no, four Super Bowl, he's been to him. Yeah, he's been a four. Three-time champion. Jesus. Off the field, he is admired. for his humility, community involvement, and philanthropic efforts,

particularly through his 15 and the Mahomes Foundation. He's a guy for the kids. Loves the kids, just like myself. I have the Grank Nation Youth Foundation. We're for the kids. That's why I love Patrick even more. Now, he's for the kids. When you're for the kids, you're a good dude.

When you're for the kids, you're a good dude. Mahomes, combination of talent, work ethic, and character has, made him one of the most respected and influential figures in the NFL today. Wow. Tell you the truth, I don't think AI actually got it right. I mean, if AI got it right, it would have been a page like of like 10 pages. They didn't even say anything about his arm angle thing. Like everyone talks, every human talks about this fucking arm angle.

He can throw the ball sideways. He can throw it, you know, over the shoulder. Behind the back. We see the behind the back this year. He can throw it with his eyes closed. No lookers. I mean, Patrick Levan Mahomes the second. He's, he's, he's, why are you laughing?

Patrick Levant. I love how you're just saying his middle name as well. I like Patrick Levin-Mohmonds a second. It's, it's a good sound. No, I got a story with him. So back when you were balling in 2017 Super Bowl against Philadelphia, Minnesota, I had to torn ACL. And so I proceed to go out.

and it's me, Cliff Kingsbury, his agent, Eric, and Jacqueline, who was working with Cliff, who's Mahomes's marketing lady, and this rookie Patrick Mahomes. And we were all at this table at some party or some, I don't even know, club. And Mahomes was just like the coolest little dude, chugging beers. We were sitting back chugging beers. I didn't even really know he was because they still had Alex Smith. This was the year that he sat behind him, right?

And no one knew who he was. And he was just, you could tell he was one of the dudes that you wanted to hang around. He's a, he's a fucking just good ass kid. He was like a little puppy there, man. He was just, yo, let's take a shot. And it's so crazy to see where his story's gone. I mean, he's a fucking, he's a legend. He's an absolute legend.

He is a legend. I don't have a story like that. I just met him one time really quick. It was on the set of a subway commercial and I was shooting and then he was right after me. And I mean, good thing. I didn't have a foot long, you know, in my hand when I met him. That would have been a little awkward. But when I went up to him, we kind of, I just got out of set.

Yeah, with your pants. How would you know that, Jules? I shower with you for 10, 9 years. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Oh, yeah. forgot. His brother's bigger, though.

Yeah, he has Dan G. Dan G has a monster piece. Dan G should represent some way. All right. Back to Mahomes. All right. So I just, you know, I was coming out of my trail. I just finished my set. Then he was coming on the set.

He was coming out of his trailer. And then we just walked by each other. I just met him super quick for about 30 seconds. We just said, what's up? I don't have a cool story like you, Jules. But he just seems like the ultimate dude, like a great guy, great teammate, person that, you know, that will never, you know, any, like, whatever. get too big time for anyone.

Like fame will never change this guy, I feel like. Just the way he acts, the way he carries himself, which is great. And I feel like that's why he's loved by America. The chiefs might not be loved by America, but there's no one that says, hey, you know, I don't like Patrick Mahomes. I mean, if they don't like

Patrick Mahomes, it's because he is facing their team, you know, that week currently and beating their ass. That is right. But overall, man, everyone loves Patrick Mahomes. They love his game. They love his personal. They love what he represents. And he's just the man, dude.

Just the way he plays the game as well. He's not scared. He has no fear out there on the field. I mean, he doesn't care if he's going to get hit by a linebacker, hit by D-Lyman. Just his game just brings a whole new perspective to the fans in the NFL. Definitely. And like you said, his success hasn't changed him at all. You can tell how he handles himself in front of the media that he's such a team guy.

Mm-hmm. Like, when you, when you, watch him, he never, he never points fingers. He only points thumbs. You know what I mean? He never, he never says anything. He always puts it on himself. And that's what a lead, that's someone, that's someone who we played with that did. That's what Tom did. Exactly. You know what I mean, that's why he, you know, he's in that, he's doing what Tom shit. I, I literally think Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady have the most similar careers out of like any other quarterbacks. I mean, And they both sat behind another quarterback when they got into the league, which I think a lot of first rounders should be doing that.

I mean, look how much, you know, mature Patrick Mahomes was, you know, going in when he first started because he sat behind Alex Smith. He got to learn. And then when it was his term. James. Yes, Jaden Daniels is the only one that I would say. Yeah, he's, he's NFL ready. Okay. Why you got to like, there's an exception.

But majority, I mean, majority of the time, it's better for a player, you know, first round. quarterback to sit. You know, obviously Tom sat behind Drew Bletso, a Patrick Mahom sat behind Alex Smith. And then it was when it was their opportunity, they were ready to go and they took full advantage. And then they became the starter from there on out. Didn't Josh Allen sit behind, wasn't Fitzpatrick there for a little bit early on? He was sit, he didn't come out. We're not talking about Josh Allen right now. I forget. I forget. You're getting off track. But he, like always, though, he used to you getting off track. But you always get right back on track. That's why I love you. He's, you just need someone

there just whipping your ass at all times. I need it. Yeah. Need it. I need it. And it's, it really is. He's really revolutionized the quarterback position. You could put him in that same category as like Steph Curry, who's changed the position. Now, Tom, he's just a sit in the quarterback, sit in a pocket type spot type quarterback. The best one to do that. The best one to do that. This is the first time where you've seen like the real, real athletic quarterback guy that changes launch angles, guy that makes plays with like second plays within the plays really succeed and do what he's done. And it's made like, you see the kid at Nebraska? What's his name?

Dylan Rayola. I mean, you have now young kids trying to look identical to what Patrick Mahomes is doing. And you see a lot of that. You saw a lot of that with Aaron Rogers and his play, how people emulated. how he plays. You know, you look at how Jordan Love throws and all these younger quarterbacks, the Zach Willisons, their little jump passes where they try to get that ground force production. Mahomes is also doing that. Now people are looking at Mahomes. He's that next generation where everyone of these little kids is really emulating, which is very parallel to what Steph Curry did the NBA.

And what also the factor is with Steph Curry now is, too, is that he can hit a three-pointer with a seven-quarter in front of his face with the best guard, him while he can hit the three pointer off of one foot falling backwards on a fadeaway that's kind of like my holmes on the field as as an NFL quarterback he's doing no look passes he's falling backwards getting hit he's still throwing it on target what else he's throwing it underhand to the guy so him and stuff curry are very similar in the way that they can just release that ball and still get it to exactly where they needed to go and swish every shot still it's unbelievable rob what a what that was a fucking three points. That was a half court three pointer. That was a three point.

From down. That was a three point. I'm heating up. That was a three point. I got a scouting report for freaking Patrick Mahomes. What is this? I wrote the scouting report. He's crafty.

He has great ability to extend plays. And that's actually what makes Patrick Mahomes possibly, possibly better than the goat in the end. That's the only thing that I would say could possibly make him better than Tom Brady in the end is that. he can extend plays to a whole other degree. But he's never going to be better than Tom. Even if he is, I'll never say that because I love Tom.

Also, I'm just saying the way he can extend plays, that's what makes the Kansas City Chief so good. He's about to be sacked and he just rolls out, spins off a defender. And then he throws it to Travis Kelsey or Tyreek Hill when he had him or a no name seventh rounder like you, Julian. Once again, making that seventh rounder famous like Tom did with. you. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like Travis Kelsey famous like Tom Brady made you know myself

famous, you know, throwing the balls to me. That's what that's what that's why these quarterbacks are great because they're making us famous as well. Making us money. So what were you going to say? What were you going to say? I don't know. Good. I forgot what I was going to say. It's also pretty cool that he has like

in our situation. We never really had an offensive minded head coach and we never really got to see the tandem of head coach with offensive or with with quarterback you know like I think his relationship with Andy Reid is something really special as well I think they can they can they can they can finish each other's sentences now Brady and Belichick could do that too but I think when they finish each other's sentences there's like a twinkle in their eye you know like it's kind of like it's like it's like I'm the one who finishes yeah yeah I see

No, but it just, I think, you know, for as much as the public is getting sick of the Kansas City Chiefs, it's, it's guys like Patrick Mahomes. They got some really cool dudes at the top of that organization. Even Trayv, man, he's a really cool dude. Definitely. Like, where you don't mind rooting for them. You know, they're great. And I'm rooting for the greatness to see it. I mean, not crazy.

Back to the scouting report. I had a couple more, you know, X factors on that scouting report. He has awesome vision, obviously. He's creative. He's unflappable. You know what that is, Jules? What is that? You know, like, he just can't be tackle.

He can't be stopped. Slippery. Yeah, he's slippery. There it is. He's slippery. Slipry and wet. Shout out on Joe. Kind of like Kamara, but as a quarterback,

Kamara's slippery when he goes through that hole. Like no one can get him and he just falls off of every tackle. Twinkle tone. He makes off-schedgedle plays as well, which that's why the Kansas City Chiefs are so great and they have a chance in every game because of those off-schedule plays. And you're supposed to be sacked. It turns into a 30-yard bomb. He's even keel.

He's never too high and he's never too low. No. Which that's how you need to be in the NFL because the NFL has so many highs and so many lows. And if you can stay in the middle, that's a talent right there itself. Even when he's doing the whole, uh, the one thing that it fucking cracks me up, what he does is when there's a penalty or something. and he'll stick his little head in the referee fucking the huddle.

It's like, oh, and he does that little, that little fucking head wave, oh, it's on them, it's on them. I get so mad when he does that. I don't know why. I know, and it's not on them. But he's kind of like, he's influencing the refs. He's calm cool. It's on us.

It's on us. It's on us. It's on us. Like, calm cool thing that you were saying. Go ahead. And most importantly, he's durable. Durable. And if he's hurt, he still goes out there and he performs.

He what? In the playoffs, he had like the high ankle spray. Dude, he just came right back out and just came. kept throwing bombs still. So a Super Bowl. That's what makes a quarterback, a quarterback is when you're injured, you know, an elite quarterback and elite quarterback is when you're beat up still, you're still going out there.

And that's why this guy reminds me of Tom a lot. Yeah. A lot. Because Tom, hey, he would go out there no matter what the situation was. However he was banged up, he would still perform and go out there and play too. So many injuries, no one knows about that Tom played through because that's how good he was. And that's what Patrick Mahomes does. He adjust his game when he's hurt.

Remember like with that high ankle sprain? What was that? That was their last two Super Bowls ago? It was the first one where you had the high ankle sprained. Two Super Bowls ago. And I was sitting there like, this could be really bad. And he had that really big run. He had a really big third down run that was like that sealed the game, I think.

I'm coming off memory. And I was sitting there like, man, that's what competitors do. They don't talk. You know, he didn't make. it loud about his ankle, but when it was freaking nut cutting time, the due went out and he was an assassin made the play. He always makes the play when his team needs him to make the play. And that's why he's considered the best quarterback in the league right now. Well, I mean, he's clutching big moments. There's no doubt about that. I mean, I don't think the Kansas City Chiefs didn't

have my homes. They want to have, you know, one in these situations that they've been winning in. I mean, the guy comes through every single time they need a big play. And when the game is close, manages to score or put them, you know, the offense in field goal position so then Bucker can just go out there and just kick a 70 yarder right through the middle and just win the game every time. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's a lot of their team is like very similar to ours.

Very similar in all in all ways if you really think about. Great kicker. Yes. Best quarterback in the league. And then a lot of great tight best tight end in the league. Yes. And you know, Travis kind of having, he's getting a lot of. lot of the eyes right now is production's down.

But then they always have some other guy. You know what I mean? Some other guy as well. The defense is strong. Chris Jones on the defense aside is kind of like Devin McCordy and Dante Heightower. Like they're very, very similar. And then obviously coach Belichick, coach Andy Reid, very similar coaches.

And you want to know where they're very similar as well from what I've heard. Practice is they practice hard. Practice hard. They practice hard. And in New England, we practice hard. It made games easier. If you were recovered for the game. If you were recovered for the game.

I already made the game suck if you weren't recovered for the game. There was one time where he didn't come in clutch. When was that, Jules? Was that when there was a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay that you were playing in? Yeah, but, you know, it was just an overall domination of the whole team. Yeah. They were missing those linemen. Yeah, they were missing the linemen.

alignment and we just dominated, you know, a whole entire game. We dominated the offense side of the ball. We had a great game plan going in. Everyone, we had a script of like 80 plays and literally we ran like all 80 of those plays to the exact T that we wanted to. It went literally from practice and translated right into the game. We were just checking Mark, checking off like every play that we ran that we go to the next and every play was working. And on top of our defense was ready. We even got blown out versus them in the regular season. I think that was our last regular season lost, too. And before we went on that, you know, eight-game winning streak.

But, yeah, the defense, we, we just scouted them like, like, it was nothing, dude. And we were on Mahomes big time, but it really wasn't Mahomes' fault. It was just a domination just overall as our team dominated their whole team in every aspect of a game. So Mahomes really didn't have a chance to, you know, perform like Mahomes. Yeah. Yeah. that's that that was a that was a great game that really was and then on top of it man what about the freaking um a fc championship game that's another time buffalo you know no when we face mohomes

an a fc championship game man i mean i mean the best a fc championship game of all time i believe and it was our time to shine as well and it was always you know a doubt hey can the new lincoln patriots go on the road and win a super bowl we never did before we never done that before and that solidified us to be the dynasty of all dynasties because we went into Arrowhead 2018, the chiefs were the number one C's sexy team. They were

electric. And let me tell you, Mahomes didn't disappoint in this game. No, he did. The reason why Mahomes lost is because he didn't have a chance in the playoffs in the, not the playoffs in overtime, but touched the ball because we got the ball first and we went right down the field and scored.

And guess what? I watched that game. I watch that game. just now in Dallas with my nephew. He put the game on the last five minutes of the game. Let me tell you my blood was my heart was racing. My blood pressure was up because it was one of the best games I've ever seen. I haven't ever rewatched it either. And Jules, man, you came through in the clutch, boy. So did you?

No. Well, yeah, I did too. But no, let me tell you, third and ten. We did that a lot. The game's over. We're down by four? Oh, Rob, you know, just chip blocking the DN, giving Tom extra time, Tony Romo in the booth. Now, expect Julian Adelman to go up, you know, like he's running under, then to go up like he's going deep.

And then the run across or Tom Brady will hit him. It's third and ten. That's going to be the play. Boom. What happened? You go right across the middle on an over route. Boom. First down.

Third and ten again, Tony Romo. Expect Julian across the middle. Tom Brady's going to hit him. Expect gronk to chip. Give Tom more time. Boom. hit Julian up the frickin middle once again for another first down and then Tony Romo again. Well, this time, Gronk is spread out wide.

Let's see what he can do. It's third and time. Tony was pretty on it. Guess what? He just has to go to Gronk. It's one-on-one coverage. He's not going to look anywhere else. What happens?

Whop fade route first and 10, baby. Let's go, baby. You came through clutch so much. You had a heck of a playoff run that that year as well. That was a fun year. And that was kind of the passion of the torch for for Tom to, to Mahomes, you know, it was kind of like, for at least that matchup.

Tom played him again in New England, uh, in, Tampa. But like that was like a different one because that was like, that was the road to the AFC championship was always through us. And it went to them. Tom had to say right before he left the conference, say, buddy, there's a hell of a run. You'll always, hold my beer. You'll always remember me.

You always remember you didn't win when I was here. And as soon as Tom left that little motherfucker, he's been winning the ball ever since. So Patrick Mahomes, what kind of time? We went way over. It's Patrick Mahomes. Oh my gosh.

We're at 20 minutes? Yeah. Oh my gosh. It felt like 10 minutes. The guy's, guy has won as a starter from the very beginning. He's a fucking. Guys,

no losing seasons. He's, he's on pace. He's on pace to be the best. We're only supposed to talk about him for 10 minutes, but it's been like 20 minutes. But we could talk about him. homes for the next two hours if we really wanted to.

There's so many crucial situations he's been in where he has come back and just made magic happen. He should be right here one day and we should have a beer with him. That's the kind of guy he is. Yeah. But we got to get to this. What kind of dude, you know, is Patrick Mahomes? I kind of feel like we kind of went over it and already hit it. But is he a stud? Is he a freak? Is he a dog? Is he a whiz? Is he a dudes dude? I mean, I feel like he represents and, you know, all these categories, but what is he? What one does he most exemplify? I think two right now that are coming to, three are coming to me right now.

Freak, dog, and dudes dude. Freak, dog, and dudes do. I mean, the guy's a wizard, though. And he's a wizard and he's wizard. Basically recreated the offense because of him. He basically recreated how you. I'm going to go with the quarterback. But what I'm really thinking, I'm definitely.

going to go with one of the three that, you know, you hit. Maybe Patrick Mahomas deserves two of them because he's just that good. But we can't do that. We can't break the form for no one. And it was so great. He is a freak and he's a freak with a dad bod. But that's the advantage is that a quarterback, here's my big take on quarterbacks is if you're jacked, you're going to only have like three years in the NFL.

If you're coming out in your jacked coming out of college. I'm not even going up any names, but I can name. so many that these quarterbacks are jacked. They can bench so much that your arm's going to fall off because you're too tight after after three years. That's why this guy's so great because he has a dad bot. And when you have a dad bod, you're a looser than freaking.

He's a fucking dog too. A loose cannon. Yeah. He is a dog. He is a dog. But he's a freak dog. Yeah, he is. So can he be a freak freaky dog?

You know what? Or is he just a whiz? He just clutch. Nah, he's more than a whiz. He's worse. This is like someone that's really smart that keeps him in the league longer because they're not a freak.

So you can't give him like a whiz. You can't give him a whiz. Nah. But I think he's a dog. He is a dog. Because the mental physical toughness always motivated, relentless.

There are so many freaking, there's so many third downs that we don't even talk about that he converted when it was his team needed it. That like made a drive more. or that took an offense off the field or kept an offense off.

There's so many of those situations that he's a fucking dog. He's an assassin. He will murder your team. All right, Jules. Like I said, we can talk about him for the next three hours. We got to put him in the category

of a freak or a dog. What is he? All right, you got three seconds to decide. Freak. He's a freak. He's a freak of nature. There's only one, Patrick. He's a freak.

I know that the little kid out in Nebraska. He got the shades. the haircut, the same damn walking, clapping stuff. There's only one of those. He's inspiring. He is, man. He's a freak. Freak of nature. All right. Stamp it.

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Dude that we will be talking about. Fred Warner, ladies. Fred Warner, Friderico, Anthony Warner, Panamanian, Mexican. All right. Here we go. My. He's a fucking dog. Just go.

Synopsis. Go. My synopsis right here. That's a big word. And let me tell you, I just hit a synopsis on Fred Warner. Here we go. What's a I say, Robbie?

Fred Warner is a standout linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers, known for his exceptional tackling and leadership on the field. Off the field, he's admired. He is admired for his dedication of, hold on. Off the field, he is admired for his dedication and humility, often crediting his single mother for his success. Warner's journey from Mission Hills High School to the NFL is inspiring,

showcasing his hard work and perseverance. Man. Man. Dude. Federico Anthony Warner. What AI do we use? I feel like we use like weak AI. Like this AI is like the broken like the, like the,

electronics are sparking, like, type of AI. Because, like, last week when I had the AI printed out, let me tell you, for our first couple episodes, that was a description. We need, we need, we got to work on AI. Yeah. Because AI didn't, didn't come close to describing what this guy is on the field. You know, I love the story about, you know,

come where he came from. And you could, you could see with that passion, how he plays on the field. I remember watching him. I went to that, that Raiders 49ers. training camp last year they had a joint practice and i was out there real early i was visiting the raiders when mcdaniels was over there don't like let's not get in the comment section about that

and i yeah i yeah no no the comment section is right here i thought you're a patriot for life and then you're all over with the raiders you know i just saying there's more of the hate for josh i was talking like all right we don't need we don't need to hear that right all right but i look i look i I go out to practice early, and there's one guy out there at the very beginning. It's Fred Warner, and there's the two fields, and he's over on the far field. I don't know what he was doing. I think he was smelling the grass, doing some kind of weird war dance or something. But whatever he did, he let you know the first play of that practice.

He set a tempo, man, and that's the kind of guy he was. Like, I was like, this dude's doing some, like, predator shit. that's fucking fire. I like this guy more than anything. I found out he's Mexican. He plays from my old team that I love. Like, I love this guy. And then I've met him a couple times.

He's just a fucking, like the AI said, he's a stand-up dude that's very, got a lot of humility. But he's also an assassin on that field, man. He sideline to sideline. You played against him a bunch. How was he? Actually, I never actually played against the San Francisco 49ers in my life. I was hurt the two or three times when we did play the 49ers,

which was a disappointment. I mean, I wish I truly played against every team in the NFL. I wanted to play in every stadium in the NFL as well. You played them in bucks with the bucks, no? No, we never played the 49ers. Mm-mm, man. So I think that's the only team in the NFL I never played. So, but let me tell you, I was just covering him.

It's the only team that I didn't get scored on by Grunk. I was covering him this week. And let me tell you, I had a cover Fred Warner because he made a couple plays. And they had a couple turnovers. And he had the biggest play of the game. on the defensive side of the ball. Oh shit. Jumped up in the air and had that interception versus Jacoby.

And it literally just showed like his freak athleticism on that play. Because he had a jump in the air like a wide receiver. He was about, you know, a couple like 30 inches off the ground. Solid vertical jump. And then he had a let he landed on his back. And then he popped up immediately like fast. His awareness is a 10 out of 10 to be a defensive player and they have hands like that. and then to have the awareness to get up to get up in that the play is still like.

There's wide receivers in the game that catch the ball and fall to the ground and still think it's college and the plays over and then they drop it on the ground and then it's a fumble. Not Fred Rico. Not, no. Not Fred Rico, ladies and gentlemen, he popped right back up and let me tell you, if I had to catch a ball and fell on the ground right now, it'll take me like 20 seconds to pop right off right now. He said that on air. What do you do? Yeah, I said it on air. He popped right up in literally a half a second, juke some guys and ran it.

It's back for a pick six. Pick six. It was kind of the nail on the coffin at the beginning of the game. Where you knew it was going. And that's, and that's, he makes those plays all the time. Now,

you know, he's been a very durable player and he may get a little banged up on the sideline, but he looked like he was all right. But I remember, I, I was watching you do the highlights on Fox, half time show.

And I was like, thinking, like, he did fucking just catch that ball and get up and go. and go and was instinctive. And like when defensive guys get their, their ball, their hands on the ball, sometimes you see him carrying the ball like a loaf or bread. He looked like a big ass running back.

And then he got that Pop Warner. He got that Pop Warner arch in his back. You know, when you get tired at the end. And then he jumped it. You get to that Pop Warner arch when you got the kid who's running away. He got the Pop Warner arch. Talking about that, you know, Pop Warner, he had to play offense at some point in his life. He had to be able to catch a ball like,

that and then to be able to run like that after the catch. I mean, he had to play like running back, freaking slot receiver, something growing up. And he played at BYU, actually, you know, a star right there from the very beginning. And my first game ever. That overlooked to it. Yes, yes, he did. And my first game ever was actually versus BYU. That was just a fun fact.

I was throwing out there. We actually won. They were number, I think, 20 in the country when we beat him. And I beat BYU in a bowl game as well, the first bowl game. How many 10s? For Arizona zero touchdowns, but my brother had one. I don't have like, it was my last game actually at the University of Arizona. And it was the first bowl game in 10 years for the University of Arizona.

It was the Vegas ball. We won there. What was most important was I was in Vegas? At 19, 20 years old. Was it fun? Yeah, it was fun. It was really fun. I was the first time.

I was still too young, though, so I didn't really get to experience Vegas like that. But I was trying to. You know I was trying to. No, what was in that gift bag? The gift bag? shit, I don't know. That was like 15 years ago. I never went to a bowl game and I always wanted to know.

I always wanted to know because you'd hear about like guys go to the bull games and get like an Xbox. PlayStation. We got a PlayStation. See, you got a fucking PlayStation. And I actually sold it. What was that website? Craigslist. Yeah.

My friend sold it for me. No, it was Nintendo Wii. My friend sold it to me because I had no money. I was like, yo, I don't really play video games. We actually had one system already. We played Halo 24-7 on Xbox. And I was like, I don't need this Nintendo Wii. He sold it for me on Craig's list for the amount that it goes for in stores.

I threw him like 50 bucks and I had like another $200 to buy people beer. You know what? I bet you if the NCAA knew about that, he would have got fucking fined. He would have been, you would, or not fine. It was a gift. You're allowed to sell a gift. Are you? But that's how crazy.

I mean, I stole it like two months after. You're out here selling wheeze and you go to a college player's fucking the players lot now. All you see is Lamborghinis, these little fucking colleges. college kid. It's crazy. Rob's over here trying to get $50 from a Craigslist. All of his... All I knew it was $15 a week. Then I was satisfied.

It got the job done. What did it get you? It got me a 30 pack and it got me lunch. That's all I needed. That's all I needed, folks. Protein shake and 30 packs. Protein shakes and beers. Now, did you just get the protein shakes back at the facility?

Well, actually, yeah, yeah, I got the protein shakes at the facility and a dinner. which I would bring back as well. We would like stack up the to-goes. So then we would have kind of like an extra lunch or a dinner that night, the next night as well, just in case if we needed some backup food. Beers and the food, but dang, I forgot.

Oh, oh, now I know why I had no money. That's where I was going. I had no money in college because my brother and I, we put all our money together. I was left in our bank account. We bought a hot tub the first three weeks here at the University of Arizona.

Literally, we drained our bank accounts. They were at zero. dollars. Yep. Yeah, that's us. Yeah. The guy, I mean, back to Fred Warner. I mean, the guy, 2021, he had a record breaking contract, five years, $95 million. He reset the linebacker markets. All you other linebackers out there, thank Fred Warner, 40.5 million dollars guaranteed. I mean, the guy was a super store. What was his first purchase? I'm not sure. I feel like he's a reserved, you know, guy and people should be looking up to.

to him for sure off the field and on the field. You don't even see no blame. What was my first purchase? That's a good question. When you got your first paid or when you got drafted, what was your first purchase? My first purchase, I've always wanted an escalate. So I actually bought a used 2008 escalate and it had 30,000 miles on it and it was the red the red one. And I just thought I was so freaking cool, man. It had the rims. I remember. It was the best car of all time I've ever had. So I got to get an escalate again, man.

It's been a while. That was my only escalator I've ever owned. I had it for about four years. And I gave it to my mom because I'm a good guy like that, you know. But great car, man. That was my first purchase. How about you, Jules? What was yours?

I bought a laptop. Laptop. My signing bonus was 485, bro. I didn't think I was going to make the team. I bought a fucking Apple laptop, like one of the new Macs. I still have it. You were getting ready for your next job, actually. When you bought it, you were like, I'm not going to make this team.

I didn't know. Maybe I'll be a, um, An accountant. Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, trading for Greg Lewis. You divide the odds,

Jules. Just get a laptop. You defied the odds. All right. He's only missed one game in his six-year career. Terrible, reliable.

That's crazy for the middle linebacker. It is. It's like some London Fletcher. Started every game as a rookie. You know how hard that is to do? That is. Did you start every game as a rookie? No.

Did you even play? as a rookie really yes well west tour is ACL oh well and then I that's not the reason I was looking for it just sad well yeah I didn't start as a rookie not until like week 10 because I didn't know the playbook I started week two at the old giant stadium we lost but I had like nine catches and 109 yards well that's more important then it was like my first time ever I was like holy shit west was out and then west came back and balled out and then I didn't play for a long long time. Well, we're at 11 minutes now. These guys are just so great. We can talk about them for 30 minutes, 45 minutes an hour, but where does he rank an all-time Niners? On the

defensive side of the ball. On the defense side of the ball. Patrick Willis. They always have insane. Patrick Willis is a Hall of Famer now. He went into Hall of Fame. I think this year. Am I right? Last couple years. Or last year. Yeah. He's in the Hall of Fame, though. So you got Patrick Willis. Ken Norton. I will I believe if the San Francisco 49ers can finally win a Super Bowl. I mean, they got a stack team. They're going to obviously be having a chance to win one. I think he's going to be

right up there in top three on the defensive side of the ball. Bryant, Young. You're going old school. You're going old school now. You're the Niners fan, so you grew up in the Bay Area. So you can name everyone on the defense. As much as the Niners,

as much as the Niners. Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Lott. Even right. Or no, that was Eric, right, I used to run track against him. All right. I would say he's a top five defensive player. Of all time.

Of all time. How about you? What would you think? He's on his way to be. He's on his way. He's got about another five years minimum left. Yeah. He's on his way.

Those, I mean, there's. He's on his way. If he plays five more years and wins a Super Bowl, he's easily. If he, they win a Super Bowl, he's, he's, he's in there. He gets in there. But the thing is, the Niners get this big rap about how sexy their offense is. They've had some dog asses. fucking defensive players.

Like you said, Ronnie Lott, Dana Stelfield, Bryant Young, Ken Norton, he used to fucking Merton Hanks. Like, they used to have some dogs over there, bro. Like,

oh my God. Hey, you can't forget about the Bosa. Boza guy. They have so many, they still have crazy guys on their own team. Dion Sanders was there,

but he was there for a year. I didn't even know Dion Sanders played for the Niners. Yeah, he won a Super Bowl with them. That's a fun fact I just learned. He won a Super Bowl with them. He won a Super Bowl with the Niners, Dion Sanders?

And then he went to Dallas next year, won a Super Bowl. I mean, I was young, man. I was a young boy. I don't think you were. What year was this? 94, 95. I mean, I was five years old.

That's why. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got to get into the categories. What type of dude is he? Fred Warner is. Is he a stud, which is athleticism, football IQ, pedigree of a penis stud?

Or is he a freak, which counts as, you know, unparalleled physical ability. one-on-one instincts, I mean, or is he a dog, which is relentless, motivating, all that good stuff, physical and mental toughness, or is he a whiz kid? Does he know the game, intellect of the game, the innovation of the game? Is he clutch or is he a dude, dude, dude's a dude's dude? A dude's positive attitude, locker room guy, guy that you hang out with on the field,

off the field at dinner, family guy, just, Everything overall, calm, cool, collective. That's a dude, dude. So I think what categories do you think he's in? I think he's definitely, what are the, for, for his athletic ability, I'm going to go either on the side of being a stud or a freak. Stutter or a freak? I was thinking stutter dog.

I think he's just a stud. If you said stud or dog and I said stutter, freak what does that have in common well if it was a vend diagram i think stud would be in the middle part yes it would be so i think i think he's a stud you go the two circles and the ones that overlap i heard that recently probably back to eighth grade is there any numbers in that van diagram that i can calculate there was like six numbers in this one and three and four were over in this side and then it went over to

the three and four when there was six numbers this and the three and four over and they both inter, it would be those the three and the four. All right. I think he's a stud. Yeah, he's a stud. I don't know what the heck you were just drawing up. I don't know what your imagination was thinking. Then diagram.

But all I know is that Fred Warner is an absolute stud of a linebacker in the NFL. Stud pedigree of the middle linebacker right now in the NFL. It was like, it used to be. like Luke Keekeley, Erlacker. Right now Fred Warner's up there. And there's a bunch of other guys that are in that category. We'll get into him this year. But he's definitely in that category.

He's a stud. And what's crazy about it too is that he's kind of like the new era, Mike linebacker as well. Because all these offenses were turning the passing offenses. So you need a guy that could be able to cover and also stuff the run. So you kind of needed a more athletic linebacker. And that's what he represents. And that's why he got paid the way he got paid.

And that's why everyone looks up to him at the linebacker position, especially the Mike, because back in the day, you had Mike linebackers and they were, you know, 250 pounds, 260 pounds, 270 pounds that can just stuff the hole and stop the run. But they can never really cover that well. I mean, in zone defenses, yes,

they can fill the hole, you know, and make a couple plays. But this guy can cover as well. Side line to sideline fast, but he also doesn't, doesn't lack in the lower end department. He still brings the wood, the heat. Yes.

So he's just a fucking stud. And he's the first one to do that in the new era when the passing offenses just kept growing and growing. Patrick Willis was like that a little bit too, though. Like, it's, I think it's just Niners. These Niners know how to get that damn linebacker. They sure do. Ravens.

Ravens do too. Patrick McQueen and shit. But they let them go. All right, let's go on to our next. Bomb, bum, bum. I'm sure we're going to go for more than 10 minutes. We've already went for more than 10 minutes. Who's our next guest, Tom?

I mean, oh, wow. Who's our next guest, Julian? Our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady. Now, let's see what AI has what to say about TB. Two guys that know him pretty well. Let's see if AI knows them just as well. All right, start at the clock. Let's see.

Let's see if AI is really living up to the standards these days. He's not everyone's saying. Last two. AI. All right. Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback. Well, they're already wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback. He was an NFL legendary quarterback.

Or is he, does AI know he's, does he come back? AI. AI knows something that we don't know. Oh, my God. AI is living up to the standard. Dolphins. A dolphins. Kyle Shannonhan still wants some.

with the Niners, even though Brock Perry is a lot. Maybe AI's up to something right now. AI is up to something. What is AI saying? He's a renowned for his record seven Super Bowl victories and five Super Bowl MVP awards. Wow. Off the field, he is known for his disciplined lifestyle. Very disciplined.

TB12 method. Business ventures. com slash business ventures. A lot of business ventures owns teams. Lots of teams. Raiders potentially coming up soon. And philanthropic efforts. A lot of giving back to the kids.

Best buddies for a long time. Yes. And what about the kids? He helped become superstar. Yeah, he helped us out too. We're part of that. That doesn't go in the philanthropy. That's not philanthropy, but we'll take that.

That's his biggest philanthropy right there. It was. Definitely. Okay. Helping us kids out. He helped us a lot. All right. Now, including his work with the TB12 Foundation, which you just mentioned, Joe.

And TB12 Foundation. Brady's leadership. He's a leader. Resilience. Guy's fucking resilient. And commitment. Come on, Jules. Is he committed?

This guy is committed like no other. To excellence have made him an iconic figure. Is he iconic? Fucking. He's got a aura. The most iconic. Guys got ORA. Iconic figure both in sports and infinity and beyond.

It said in infinity and beyond. But I added that little bite of Buzz Lightyear, you know, spectacle aspect into it. I like that. I like that. But I can't believe AI didn't. One thing that AI didn't get, this guy is his compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous. That's what I, anyone asked me, like, what is, he could literally have so many things going on in his life.

But when it was time for work, he could blur all that out and think about what that work day was and fucking get the most out of that work day every day. Which some would say that's like a serial killer or some kind of maniac mindset. I would say that's like the greatest of all time. Yes, Jules, that's a great point. I actually never thought of that. And that's 100% accurate. And that's actually contributes to why he was so great. Is that he could ignore the noise.

Whatever is going on out there. Whatever the situation was. Make me better. It didn't matter. And he would, yeah, he would use that anyways. He would use it as fuel. It would be diesel fuel. It would be normal, normal fuel.

Race fuel. Super. S-101, oxygen fuel. it didn't matter. That's 101. He would use it as fuel. Just a few fucking gas stations have that fuel. You fill up that engine and he had diesel engine.

He had freaking premium engine. He had every engine in the book. Jet engine. And that's what made him so great. And he used that fuel and he burned all that fuel too. This is probably terrible. There's so many, he burned so much fuel that he killed literally so much of the ozone layer that he's a fucking hazard to our environment because that's how much fuel he burns.

with the motivation and his compartmentalization factors. That's how much fuel he's burning. And that jet was full go every single time. You know when you get on a plane, you're like this freaking pilot better drive this plane or fly this plane as fast as possible. Or drive it too, freaking on the runway to get to the runway to freaking take off ASAP.

So fly it and drive it as fast as possible. That's this guy. And he's got headwind, so you're actually using more fuel. Yeah. And the fuel never ran out. The guy has fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying. Have you seen that where they use the fucking piece and while they're flying in the air? And they connect it.

Yeah. He's got that on Unlimited. Yeah. And that is Alex. Alex is the little airplane. Alex is the little airplane that connects. Oh, yeah.

Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, oh, oh, oh,

He just has so much fuel. I mean, oh, that was so good. That was so good. There they are. Look at there's Alex and Tom. Alex and Tom. Alex is fueling Tom up. Wow.

Hey, wow. And that's something to have. That's a love thing out of Alex because he keeps him going. Keeps them going, man. Well, let's get to some accolades. I mean, first he was, he was pick $199, six round in the, 2000 draft. I mean, I'm sure everyone knows that by now. He was with the Patriots from 2000 to 2019 and then with the Bucks 2000 to 2000 to 22. And actually I just got a quiz on him. How many

years did he play in the NFL? And it was right before I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox. Kurt Menafee asked me, we played a little live game. Hey, how well do you know your teammate Tom Brady goes? How many more years did Tom Brady play in the NFL than you? And I played 11 years. And I thought Tom Brady played 24 years. I actually got it wrong. He played 23 years in the NFL. So shame on me, but it was better to be over on that than hit

it right on the nose. But that's how many years he played is that I just know it was so many. I couldn't even keep track anymore. He played 11 years more years than. He played 11 years more than you and 12 years more than me. That is fucking early. I played 12, I played

11 years in the NFL and he played more years in the NFL. that I put in the NFL. He, that without me. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Like if you,

I don't know what that's called, but that's a math term. Yeah. That's called, uh, the hole. That's called goat. That's fucking goat,

goat. Yeah, that's called jet fuel. Alex's jet fuel. Alex's jet fuel. Yeah. What was the first time you met Tom? The first time I met Tom was actually what was pretty wild when I was at the

University of Arizona. You know, I was doing my interview. a couple touchdowns that game. I was showing off my touchdown celebrations. And then the lady interviewing me, she's like, who do you see being your quarterback in the NFL? And obviously right on the spot, I go,

Tom Brady would be the best quarterback to have in the NFL and especially a great fit for me. And that was just the answer, you know, and then I did my touchdown dances and all that. And then what happens? I get drafted to the Patriots. And Tom Brady becomes my quarterback in the NFL. NFL. It was like I manifested it

when I was in college. I manifested a lot of things. And if you ask Tom, Tom's probably really big into manifesting as well. He manifested all his Super Bowls. Because right after he won a Super Bowl, he would already have a clock counting down to the next Super Bowl. So he was manifesting like crazy. You just learned so much knowledge

from him. And he's done so many things right to be able to get to a, you know, nature of where he is now. It wasn't like he just had the athletic ability. He showed up. He did everything right and he put the time in that you can never argue against him can't you can't we'll give you an option so let's get let's get back to what was i talking about again i don't know i

just got just yeah i got a little first time you met him oh the first time i met him it was um in the training room i was getting my ankles taped and uh he walked in so i was there already for the rookie camps the rookie practices and he just walks up to me he goes hey rob i'm i'm tom brady and i was like oh wow this guy already knows my name I mean, that's also what makes him so great as well, is that he already knows all the rookies names, all the guys that were drafted, what rounds they were drafted in, what type of player they already were. Because he wants to know, you know, their athletic ability, you know, what type of guy they are so he can understand them so he can be on the same page as them. So he can get the best out of them. So he can get the best out of them as well, like you said.

And he could have that connections to help win games. So he can be on the same, you know, wavelength as them. So he already knew my name, came up to me. And I just thought it was the coolest thing, man. I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you. It was just super quick. When he left, what did you think in your head? Tom Brady knew my name.

And that was the greatest honor to shake his hand while getting my ankles taped. And then he goes, wins four Super Bowls with him. That's crazy. I had a similar story. Yeah. What was it like when you met him? What was that story? I was going from, like you said, we were already in there.

When you're a rookie, you get in there before back in our day. You get in there before the vets reported. and so you'd be there for like three weeks did rookie camp and learning installations and everything and so I had a big book we all had these books it was like a five inch

remember those old old binders before we had iPads we used to have big old binders I didn't like carrying them around I left mine in my locker when I went home even though you were supposed to bring it home to study I was like I ain't carrying that binder

I used to carry it I did I do I was trying to make a goddamn team you had to so I'm over here getting five minutes before the special teams meeting it's true and I'm running through

and the vets came in and I saw the vets coming because I saw Welk in the cafeteria. Didn't say a word to me. But I wanted to... Big-timed you. Big time me a little bit. That's okay. He had a leather jacket on. You big-time him now. He looks cool. He lives cool. And I like when you guys big-time each other. It's entertainment for me. All right, back to time though.

And so I knew they were in but I was going to my meeting and he walks through the door you know the entrance of the locker room from the hall he walks in there and he goes I look at him I dropped my book I'm like oh shit this dude is taller than I thought

and he goes hey I'm Tom I go Jules he goes I know we have the same agent Dragon's my agent too or something something like that and I was like nice to meet you and I felt the same way you felt like damn he knew my name that's fucking crazy

but he knew that he knew everything everyone's name and he made everyone feel special. And that was part of his leadership skill. You know, like what made him such an unbelievable leader. From the meal ladies to, you know, the people in the equipment room, the training staff, like, it didn't matter what was going on, how the day went. He was always a pretty cool dude to everyone.

And everyone was always watching him. You know what I mean? And that's when you're the quarterback of the team, everyone no matter what is going on in your life is watching that person and to see how they react to everything the success the failure your eyes go to that guy you know and he was the perfect guy for us especially when we're young knuckleheads to look at like all right this is how you have to do it he gave you the the example and and he was just a fucking he gave us a blueprint on how to become a reliable, talented, you know, player that you needed to be to help the team win games.

He gave us the blueprint on how to become a star out there on the field. He gave us the blueprint on how to make plays, how to go out there and have that mindset ready to go and also be mentally mentally and physically ready at all times on the practice field and on the game field. There's no doubt about that. And he didn't just give you a blueprint. He showed you the way too. Showed you.

Yes, he showed you. Hey, this is where I want you on this route. This is when you need to look at me. This is where the ball is going to be. Trains you. Yes, he trained you to be like that. A little puppy. Oh, wait.

Oh, wait. Oh, you want to take a break? Hey, man, I'm telling you, your mind will let you go farther. Let's go. Four more routes. Let's go. You got to be able to be on the same page as me. You got to be right here.

Be more physical. Be more physical. You're bigger than everyone. Yeah. Run his ass over and turn around and the ball will be there. I promise you. And if you don't hit that guy, if you're not physical, guess what? The ball's not going to come to you. He would just lay it out just like that. His leadership was just, what's that where? Where it's just. brutally honest. Yes, brutally honest. And that's what made him so great to. So like with him, that's what he always harp to gronk. With me, I remember in those, because a lot of times we would get that coaching in the off season when he, we'd go fly out somewhere we would throw together, you know, because there's times where you would do it. There was times where you would do it. There was times where. I would do it. He would always try to get his throws in with his guys. And for me, he'd always come up to me and like, hey, I need you to be here. I need you to be like a boxer. You know, you can't,

you can't be, you can't just do what the thing shows you on the paper. You have to feel it out. You got to set things up with your jab and then you use your right. You know, it's like a boxer. You got to be more savvy in your route running. That's, I remember you saying that. And then he'd always say, like, you got to run like a fucking, you got to be able to. to run. You got to be able to run all day. And like you said, when you were tired, we would do those sets of routes. He'd make you do three or four extra ones. And he would say, you'd line up and you'd think that the drill was done. And he would say, oh, there's off sides on a penalty on your teammates. Or there was a holding call or P.I. Or we got to redo it. And he knew you were dog dead, but he wanted to

see, he wanted to get everything out of you. When you were on empty, he wanted to see what kind of guy you were. and he wanted to show you that's what he expected in game time. And a word that you could have used in there as well that kind of sums it up a little bit is he loved a decisive route run. Decisive. Decisive. He didn't care if the paper said run 10 yards and run out. He didn't care one bit. He cared about being decisive on the practice field and taking that decisiveness and bringing it to the game field.

He goes, hey, if you're going to run. 12 yards, even though it's a 10-yard route, or if you're going to run 8 yards and it's going to be a little short, just be decisive. Let me know when you're going to break out. Let me know when you're going to break down so I can get that ball out and I can read you. I don't need you to have 15 steps where you're slow. I think you're going to go to the left and then you go to the right.

No, be decisive. If you're decisive, I will find you and that ball will be out and it will be right on point. And so what he said. What's the biggest misconception of him, you think? The biggest misconception of time. I think is that he's cool. Is that, yeah, he is cool. No, I think that's the biggest misconception. He's not that cool.

Depends. That's the misconception right there. Because he's cool when he's comfortable. He's cool, but no. If he's comfortable in the situation. I think he's not cool when he's comfortable. I think when he's around us, he's kind of like a dork. Yeah, a little bit.

And then when to everyone else, he's the coolest guy, which I still think he's the coolest guy ever. But then when you have him around, you're like, he's really kind of a dork. There's some situations where, you know, if he, if he's comfortable, he's more himself. Yes. Yes. And he's more like, you know, like dad joking. Like if he knows all the cameras are shut off, like he can finally just have some time to beat Tom.

Yeah. He's kind of dorky. Okay. Okay. I like this. You need a little dork in your quarterback. You do. mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky and that's what makes them quarterbacks

I mean not all of them but I'm saying it's kind of like just a trait what quarterbacks have but a little bit just a little bit in them he is cool but he's a little dorky but you just said he's not cool no I said the biggest misconception he's cool he always keeps a chip on his shoulder always always always that's that's It's not a misconception. I think everyone knows that. That's work ethic. I know,

but I'm just giving some facts about him. What else is a misconception? That he's not clutch. No, that's not even a misconception. Everyone knows he's clutch. Yeah, I just wanted to try to throw you off, Jules.

How about this guy also played baseball and got drafted? Yeah, by the ex-bos. Montreal. Yeah, no wonder why he didn't go and play baseball. The expos? I mean, they have a cool hat. They do got cool colors.

They're gone, though. They're not even there anymore. That's what I mean. That's why he didn't want to go there. He's like, oh, man, my legacy, I go there. The team's going to be gone. That means I'm going to be gone. I want to last forever.

I'll go to the New England Patriots instead. Yeah, he was in high school when he got drafted. He went to the same high school. He was going to the Patriots. Yeah. He went to that. I remember, well, we grew up in the same area. So he went to the same high school as Lynn Swan, Barry Bonds.

There's like so. many really good athletes that come out of that freaking school. Sarah, it's an all-boy school. What was the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed? Oh, my God. When I would return punts, like, I remember my rookie year. It was the freaking preseason game. It was my first punt return, and there was a repunt. And I ended up house in the second one, but the first one, I see Tom on the sideline. And he's got a little anxiety because it's his first game from his knee. So he's like, he was like coaching me up. on how to return a punt.

He's like, just get up, just get up, I'm sitting there, and I'm looking at him, I'm like, fuck this guy, this guy has never done this.

He does not know what I'm feeling right now. I was so annoyed with them. And then they repunted it and I housed it and I fucking slammed the ball against the thing. I was fired up,

and I was like, I was so annoyed with them. I was like, this guy is, he's never felt what it feels when the guys are running fulls. This is new to me. I didn't ever felt it either

at the time. So I was like, fuck this guy. Let me do what I got to do. He doesn't know how to run. And I was so annoyed with him. I'll tell you mine. What was yours? When I was a rookie and I couldn't get outside of the defender on a flag route, which is flag route, which is a corner route.

So you run about 10, 12 yards and you, you know, you give a little stick and you break it 45 degrees and run a corner route. And the defender was always outside of me sitting at like squatting at 10 yards. And he's always says, get outside. If you have a flag route, corner route, you got to get outside of the defender or outside. or else I will never throw you the freaking ball. So I was a rookie. I was kind of like clunky. So I wasn't really that athletic as a rookie.

You know, I wasn't running routes. Tired. Right. We double days and shit. Yeah, I was tired as well. I couldn't get outside.

And in practice, I didn't get outside of the guy. He's like two, three yards outside of me too. And I'm trying to fake him like I'm going inside and trying to get around him on the corner. And Brady just turns around in the meeting because it's on film. And he turns me and he goes,

Gronk, I'm fucking done throwing you. you the ball. I told you 50 times to get outside. You're not getting outside. And like I got all sad and Al J Crumpler started patting my leg and he's like, it's okay, Grant. He doesn't mean it. And I was like, yeah, he does. LG, man. He means it. And let me tell you this time you fucking throwing me the ball like a thousand times after. So I knew he was all bullshit. Tom telling me he was never going to throw me the ball again. I was literally like, but that fired me up. I was like, oh, all right, I'm going to show this guy. But that's the.

leadership he had. He was brutally honest. And he would freaking get you to go to the next level, which was crazy, which was crazy. He was so good at it. But I was so annoyed because I couldn't get outside of the guy. I'm like, I want to be like, Tom, run the freaking route. I guarantee you can't get outside of the guy either. He's three yards outside of me. And then if I got outside of him, it was basically like an out route I was running because I would have to flatten it so much. So I couldn't really run the corner route.

Then you get the other responsibility, the other guy. But he just wanted to get a defender in practice is playing the play. Yeah, and he knew the play. He just wanted to get the point across. Yeah. Like, so it was just always in my memory. And every time I ran a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot just to get outside of the defender. So I was annoyed at that, you know, with that situation.

But, you know, times have changed. I started running routes where I would go inside the guy. And then he would still throw me to ball as well later on because he's like, all right. He proved it enough that you can do it. Well, then you guys started throwing the back shoulder shit. Yeah. Then we started doing all that. I also used to get really annoyed when in meeting rooms, if he liked you and this, I felt

both of these. I felt when he liked a guy, he would like love them up. And then there would be so, like when, when Wes was there, I get so annoyed when I would do the exact same thing that Wes would do. And he, he wouldn't think it was good. And I would get so fucking annoyed with them. But I remember when Wes left, then I was that guy. there was guys doing trying to do what I would do.

And he wouldn't. So like I would get annoyed with that so much when he would always bring up like, babe, just do it a little more like Wessie. He called him Wessey. When he called him Wessey, remember Wessie? I used to get so annoyed. You want to know what I would get annoyed with him too is like we're in the off season. We just ran 50 routes.

It's like you and I out there only. We're dead tired. It's 90 degrees outside middle of the summer. And he'd be like one more, just one more route. because he's just throwing the ball. His arm can throw 150 passes a day, and we're running the freaking 50 routes. And he could be one more.

So then we would run, run more. We'd give it our arm. We're about to throw up. It's the middle of the summer. We probably are hungover. He has no clue what that's like. He used to. We didn't get to see him, though.

And then he became lame. Yeah, he became lame for like a couple years. Nah, he, back in the day. I guess he wasn't lame. If you're saying he's not lame, he was lame, okay? Say it, Jules. No, he was lame. Yeah.

Like when it came, when it came to that, he was lame. But we didn't get him when he was young. Yeah, I know. He was already 33 when I first met him. And then I can tell you, I'm freaking lame at 33 years old. Exactly. Compared to when I was freaking 21 to 28 years old. You're right.

Because when he was 23, 24, he was the, you know, he was the best chugger on the team. He was. Like, he was a dude's dude. So back to the story, like, he'd be one more. And then you would, you would run. one more route and they'd be like one more and then you just be like tom i'm not effing running one more i just ran 50 routes you know one more but one more you want to get better one more and then it'd be like 15 more routes and then finally it was the last one and it it was 50 and then you get to 75

he's like he just wanted 75 throws yeah he wanted 75 throws whatever time says you do got to you got you i remember those days man that's what made us great though what what was the moment what was the that like you felt like you truly gained his trust and that he could rely on you. Even if you mess up again, he knows that you're still reliable. You know what I'm saying? What was that moment? What was that catch? What was that play if it was a practice or if it was a game?

Well, because he loved, he loved Wes. You just were not playing when Wes was there. Okay, Jules? No, but he- You couldn't have Tom Brady's trust when you were on the bench. He didn't like bench players, okay? He didn't like it. It was when he left.

He had no one. He had to trust me. He had to. All right. And then it was week. It was week one in 13 where we played Buffalo and we went out there and we won. And we won. I had two touchdowns.

And that's when I felt like, all right. Because we had some, we had some spurts where, you know, Westwood, we get banged up and he wouldn't play. But he didn't like trust me, trust me. Until you had to be the guy. until you had to be the guy. Yes. And then he truly trusted you.

And that's the situation, though. He doesn't really trust a guy that, you know, he's not able to throw to. He's just got to see it. 15 times a practice. You know, he has to see it. He has to do the repetitions with you in order to truly gain your trust. And it doesn't happen overnight. No.

Gains your trust. And you gain his trust as well, you know, just over time, over time. I would say my situation was when we played the Chicago Bears. on the one-on-one panther route when I was going. Was it in the snow? Yeah, versus Brian Urlacker. And he wanted the game I trust. He wants to see me be physical.

That's what he always emphasized me. Be fucking physical, Gron. You're 260 pounds. You're going versus 180 pounds or linebackers that you're still bigger than. Be physical. And this was the play. Panther route, one-out run. I run into the end zone, kind of hit the guy with my shoulder,

and then turn around and the ball will be right there. Because when you're physical, you know, pushes the guy back a little bit when you use your shoulder. You turn around, then there's that little ounce of separation. And Tom can see that. He can see the field. He can see all the separation in the world. He sees it.

He can see every little detail that's going out on the field. And when he sees that little detail in that route, you know, with the physicalityness, he knows that you're going to be open. There's going to be a little window. I hit Brian Erlacker. We practiced it. And that Friday, he says, I want to see that in the game because I ran it great on Friday. So the game comes when I won versus Brian Lerlacker.

give him the shoulder, turn right around the balls right there, nice and low, where it's always supposed to be in the red zone. Boom, catch it. And ever since then, I gained Tom Brady's trust right there and then on the spot, which was one of the greatest moments of my career. Yeah, I remember that. You know, you had to see it. That's what makes him, he's a dog, man.

He's assassin. He is an assassin. What's your favorite Tom memory? My favorite Tom memory is, actually, this is one of my favorite memories of all the time. time, you know, when we were playing the Indianapolis Colts and I ran that five-yard out route, caught it versus Dequal Jackson. I did a little spin move. He kind of fell, did a little split. It was like very great route by me and great after the catch two. And then I'm running, you know, I'm going. There's a couple other guys and here comes Julian Adam in. Kaboom! Just absolutely

levels Adams. The safety, you know, gets them out of my way. I'm like, thanks, Jules, for the block, you know. And then I'm running into the end zone. I jump over. Butler. Yeah. DB. Yeah, DB. What's his first name again? Yeah, Darius. Yeah, Darius Butler, who was previously on the, on the, um, Patriots and then he went to the Colts. Yeah. And now he's doing, uh, he's doing a great job in the media. Yeah. McAfee show, he's doing a great job. So shout out the Darius Butler, but I jumped over his ass made me look good, flipped into the end zone. I looked like an athletic 180 pound wide receiver. And then this was the moment, one of my favorite moments with him. Tom loved the route.

loved the catch, loved your block. He was so pumped up. He ran full speed from the 30-yard line and probably because I got him a touchdown on a play where it never should have been a touchdown. Yeah, yeah. And he came running full speed and jumped on my back and went for a ride, man.

He was like a pony on a horse, man. I brought him for a ride, man. I was carrying Tom Brady around in the freaking end zone. He was on my back. He was on my back. Put the pony on the horse's back. I was waiting for him to drop that quarter in so the ride can keep on going.

Yes. I didn't want him to get off. I was like, Tom Brady's on my back. Like, like, what else do I need in my life? Oh,

my God. Yeah, and it's one of my favorite pictures to sign to this day as well. I don't think he ever signed it. It costs like $5 billion to get him to sign a pitcher. So like, I always sign the pitcher of him on my back. And like,

I'm waiting for that pitcher to be worth a lot more money once he signs it a couple, you know, But he hasn't signed it yet. Man, that was a fucking fun play. That was a fun play. Thank you for that block. Oh, you level. Adams.

Adams. He's talking in the, he's a good safety too. We used to battle. He was with Denver. He battled us a lot, man. He brought it to and he wasn't scared. He was good.

Yeah, there it is. There's a picture right there. There it is. There it is, man. He's going for a ride. I'm still waiting for those quarters, Tom. Oh, my God.

There's Tim Wright right in the back too. We won the Super Bowl this year, didn't we? Yeah, we won a Super Bowl this year. Yeah. I think it was. Who man was a tight end as well on the team. Tim Wright and Who man? I love who man.

What was your favorite memory, Jules? My favorite memory was when we, it kind of, that 14, when he, uh, we hit that route. He came up to me after. And he goes, that was a championship route, man.

And like it was nothing crazy. That's special. And he, when he, you know, he goes, that was a championship play, man. And then we didn't win the game yet. You're making me want a tear right now. Because him saying that's a championship route, that's a championship play. That means a lot. Yeah.

And then afterwards when he, we won, you know, like that was his, that was when he got four. And I just remember, you know, there was so. many memories of him, like you said, how he's having the ticker of the Super Bowl location and the whole story where I said, man, I'm going to help you try to get to Joe. And because we were both Bay Area fans, love Joe Montana. And I told me he was the greatest quarterback of all time. And, you know, that all, that was just a fun memory. There's so, it's, it's, it's hard to fucking do one. What kind of, all right. I mean, I'm going to start crying. I know, me too. There's, there's a lot of memories with Tom. It's just great.

to see him. He's doing so good in the broadcasting booth. I mean, if he just puts in 10% of the effort that he did with the game of football in his after career, in his post career after football, he's going to have the whole world just to eat from. He's going to be successful in anything that he does. And that's what he's going to do. He's actually going to go 100% all in with what he does. He's great in the booth, like I said. And he's been improving so much every single week. And it just shows, is actually human. I mean, week one, he was good. He got the win, but he definitely could improve.

And then all of a sudden, week two and three, you're like, what the heck? How did he just go from being like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one week in the broadcast booth? So just shout out to him. I mean, he dedicates himself and he works on his craft like no one ever has before. And that's what makes him, you know, the greatest, the greatest at everything. He cares about making the people look right that give him opportunity. he does that's he cares about that he takes it to heart and he cares about showing the people that has passed on him that they've fucked up to that yeah he loves that he likes that so don't

ever pass on tom brady no i won't the only thing i'll pass on is that i i was kind of a little hesitant when i said he was lame but he was pretty lame except for when he wins a super bowl in Tampa Bay and he gets hammered on a damn boat. Like, where was that fucking Tom around us? That was bullshit. I was waiting for that the whole entire time in New England. I was too. That's why I went to Tampa Bay.

I went there for that moment. I didn't really want to play football again. I just wanted that moment that I could actually get wasted with Dom. But guess what? He was on a separate boat than me. I didn't even see him at the, at that boat break. So guess what? I still never had a drink with Tom.

It took me all the way until the roast to have a drink with Tom Brady. And that's why it was in the roast. I said, Tom, I never had a shot with you ever in my life for a drink. And he took a shot with me at the roast. So that was a cool moment. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's been 33 minutes. How long can we talk about this guy?

I think maybe we should have him on again for another episode. I got literally, I can talk about this guy all day long. I can go literally two hours to Monday. more we talk about them, the more stories that pop up in my head. Same. The more stories about him on the field, off the field, what it's like to be around him. We could talk literally for four hours straight, Jules. What kind of dude is Tom Brady?

So what type of dude is Tom Brady, ladies and gentlemen? I think this is easy. Freak, dog, whiz. I think this is easy. Dude, dude. I don't know. What do you think? If it's easy, let's hear it.

Let's hear why it's easy. He's just a fucking dog. He is a dog. mental physical toughness always motivated he didn't have the pedigree he was he was we we saw the brady six of the the six guys before him taken in the draft like he always had to go to long road he always had to work for everything even when he was at his top they were always talking about someone else he's a fucking dog yeah i wouldn't say freak because a freak is like someone that has like the most athletic ability in the world and he didn't really have the most athletic ability

But what's made him so great was that he didn't need the athletic ability because the dog was working harder than the athletic dog, you know, that wasn't the freak dog that really, or the freaky person that wasn't really working. I think he's got freak skillness. He's got like, like shooting, like basically, like it's kind of like an archer. Freak instincts. He could throw. Yes. He can like throw rocks really good. He could probably skip a rock really, really, really good.

He probably really good at pool. Yeah. Pink pong. Ping pong. What I see it. Yeah, you always beat him. Never mind. He's not going to ping pong.

Yeah, he gets really mad when he loses. See, that's a dog. That's a dog. That's a dog. He wants to go again, though. Wants to go again. He won't let you leave. He won't let you fucking leave.

I mean, and we haven't even got to this guy's looks yet either. I mean, we can just say that he's a stud real quick just because of how good he looks. Yeah, I mean, he looks younger than when he got in the NFL. Like his chin? jawline just facial He posted a picture the other day on Instagram

He's got like a six pack now Like his arms are jacked like I mean he's doing two days He is doing two days He's doing two days right now He's got his body He's still So that's why maybe AI was fucking right

He's maybe AI Is he coming back Is Tom Brady coming back I don't know He got six pack He got a little His hair's looking As brown as ever

He gave me supplement they he saw my gray hair and he goes babe here and he's still take this fucking uisha i think it's like uisha u or something it's some chinese medicine and you put it in the shake and my hair's already growing is it is my hair darker that's why i don't have a hat on the show i wanted to show off my hair because i had the oisha product it's like ooh i don't know how to pronounce it it's it ushi i got hair i don't it whatever it is look at how good is hair looks. He's just good looking guy. Man, he's a dog. All right. He's a dog. He is a dog. It's official. Tom Brady is a dog.

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on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. But before we wrap up our show, we want to help the listeners better understand the types of dudes they are. We're going to do this by classifying some of your favorite celebrities. Stud, Freak, Whiz, Dog, and Dudes, Dude. Celebrity Dudes, let's go through it, the list.

All right, let's do it. Adam Sandler. Oh, Adam Sandler, he's a dudes dude. I mean, the guy's playing basketball. He has all his friends and all his movies. I mean, he has his own production with all his friends as well. I mean, the guy's a dude's dude. I just feel like that's an easy one.

he is. I mean, I've hung out with him a few times, and he's like, just a fucking good dude. He's a dude's dude. Like, the guy he plays in the movies is really who he is. He's a good dude as well, because he brings out the best of dudes while us dudes are watching his films,

watching him act, watching him perform. It brings the best out of view. It's like, man, I want to be like this guy. And he takes care. He takes care of all his dudes. He does. He takes care of them all. Like all his other comedian, like he takes care of his dudes.

He's all about that. He's a dudes dude. He's all about that. He's a dude's dude. And he's one of the best dudes dudes, dudes as well. Yeah, yeah. What about Shane Gillis? Shane Gillis.

He's in the dudes dude category as well to me. Yes, I feel like he is. It's a guy that you would just go out and just pump a whole 30 pack with. For sure. Keystone nights I used to buy in college. That's why I was able to. four of those 30 packs. I was buying Keystone lights, by the way.

Yeah. There was like $9.99 for a 30 pack. Yeah, and he would drink every keystone. Yeah, he would. And you'd be on your like second one. It'd be like, what happened to the 30 pack? And he'd be, oh. Yeah.

I've done that. We hung out at the cellar once and he was such a cool dude. We talked ball. We talked shop for hours. What's his new show name called? Tires on Netflix is killing it. and I love that story. Great.

His story about that is where he self-made it himself and then he sold it to Netflix, like he believed in his own product, which very entrepreneurial, I liked it. Another dude. Another dude. Another dude's dude. What about Taylor Swift?

Taylor Swift, I mean, I would say, ooh, she's a whiz in a way because to come up, you know, to memorize all those songs. Revolutionary. To write your own song. to memorize them to perform them.

Perform them. I mean, you got to be smart. You got to be on top of your game. She's also a stud. She's a stud. I mean, to perform that many, you know, concerts all over the world, week in, week out, three shows and three days at Gillette Stadium. You got to be a stud.

Dude, she's, I just keep on hearing about how many. billions all her tour like does she just tour year round i mean she's doing europe tours she's doing these like she's a stud but she is a whiz i think what do you think whiz i think whiz she's a whiz what's snoop snoop dog oh snoop dog easy snoop dog dog dog dog dog you i know it was really cool like really really cool is that snoop dog sent me a package like he saw that i had a dog and his name's ralphi he's a french bulldog and he's like the coolest french bulldog ever he was actually here he played with you a dog for a while they were best friends we didn't even see him yeah usually my dog has to be by my side and like what am i doing 24 r rocky ralphi fucking ralphi rocking ralphi that should be a show

r and r ralph they were running out back and they didn't even care about us it was the first time like ralphi never even cared about me i was like wow this is so cool actually just He has a best friend. Just two dudes running around being dudes out there. Dudes, dudes being dudes just running around. Dog dudes. But Snoop Dog,

he sent a package to Ralphie. And it was an, like, outfit that you, like, put on your dog. And it was Ralphie smoking a Jay. Like, it was the coolest outfit I've ever seen in my life.

And then I sent it to Snoop Dogg in a DM. Because I DM, Snoop Dog before like one other time. He answered. So I was like, oh, maybe he'll answer this one. And he answered within 15 like minutes. It was like, yo, bro, that's like, that is dope. And you sent back a video about it.

And it was just such a cool moment. And he's just a dog, man. He's a great person as well. He's a dude for sure. But obviously he's a dog. Obviously he's a dog. But that was one of the coolest stories ever is when he sent my dog a package. We got a relationship.

We probably became close to them because he used to do our Super Bowl parties. And he was just always a cool-ass dude, man. He just, but you can tell, like, in his profession, like, he talks like a poet. Like, whenever he talks, like, he can make, like, it sound like, he's writing a poem right there, like, with like, Edelman, he's so fresh. Like, I'm like, what the, I want to damn?

I want to cripp walk this shit. What are you saying right now? It's crazy. So he's a dog. He's a dog. Yeah, man. He is. He's a dog.

What about Matthew McConaughey? Well, first of, Shout out to Matthew McCona. Hey, I'm actually currently reading his book, Green Lights. I started a year ago. It's about 280 pages. And I was on a roll. I'm actually at page 154. Let's go. I thought I was going to finish the book. And then all of a sudden, I put it away. And then I hit the road again. And I didn't read again for like another three months. And then three months later, I'm like, oh, shit, I still got the book in my backpack. I whip it out. And I start reading again. It's one of the best books I have ever half finished so far. I mean, I haven't really finished that many books. But whenever I have downtime, I'm on the road and I'm bored, I whip it out, man. And he has unbelievable stories, how he made it, how he first started, how he got his opportunity. And just being an absolute dude's dude and dog in that movie, days and confused. Yeah.

All right, all right, all right. Why do I love high school girls? Because as I get older, they stay the same age. Yeah. And let me tell you, I've never even seen the movie. Read that part in the book. freaking I'm on a flight. See days and confused on the flight.

What do I do? Whop? Days and confused. And the part exactly how he described it in the book. Exactly happened in the movie. And I was like, this guy is the man. He's a stud. He's a stud. He is.

Big, big Texas Longhorn fan. Loves the game of football. Loves football. Yes. He just seems like, I mean, he hits a lot of these,

but also like, he got an Oscar, right? he got an Oscar for that um which one was it yeah the Dallas buyers club they about AIDS the AIDS kid guy and what what makes some got range because he can play like the Lincoln lawyer he can play like true detective he could play you know a guy with AIDS he can play with like the funny laid back dude on days and confused like he's got fucking rage this guy's he's a stud he's a stud he's a stud he got to read his book I'm telling you Julian it's a great friend freaking book. It's so freaking good. I'm only

halfway finished and I'm still I'm loving it. I always talk about it to everyone. I got to finish his book. I will eventually. You just motivated me now. I got to start fucking reading. I'm telling you, since we started doing this show, I'm like, man, the way Rob is makes you want to be a better human. Only half read a book

in over two years. Still, it's better than not reading at all. You're right. You know what I mean? Yeah. I love Matthew McConae. We need him on the show one time. I know. I have his audio. I bought his audio book. I was listening to it too. I can't read. I get tired when I read.

Well, that's why they say read before bed. Then I'll just go to sleep in a REM. Just 20 minutes before bed. I'm going to read tonight now. I'm going to read tonight. I'm going to read children's books to my daughter. I'm going to read a couple more pages in the green lights. All right. I love children's books. You know I know why? They got a lot of pictures, Jules. A lot of pictures. Jules. A lot of pictures. Save me a route.

I'm good at pictures. I'm good at visualization. Same. That's why I listen to them. I listen to books. That's why I was terrible in meetings. But I was so great in walkthroughs. You put them through it?

Everyone learns a little differently. They do. And that's been another episode, dudes with dudes. We talk about our dudes, how they learn, how we learn, their favorite dudes, our favorite dudes. And it's not just dudes. It's all dudes.

And these dudes, you know, kind of turned me up, man. We just had a great episode. We had Patrick Mahalms, the best quarterback playing in the NFL currently. Tom Brady, our favorite teammate of all times, also the best quarterback in the history of the NFL. Easy. And another legend, Fred Warner, who is currently in middle of his career, one of the most athletic linebackers of all times. Just an absolute stud. So what a show we had, Julian.

And thank you for letting me be here today. Because without you, I would not be here. Well, it's your nut house too, dog. Yeah, but... Me, not a house, sued, nut house. Yeah, but... What can we do to be better next episode? Probably nothing.

We were just so good. Maybe we could read more books. So, like, our... What is it? vocabulary is better. Our imagination's better. reading helps you, you know, expand your brain. Your brain.

Expand your thoughts. Thoughts. Thank you. You're finishing my sentences. You can think for me. That's how much you know me. I know pretty goddamn well. And you know what I also know?

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