Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Randy Moss, Baker Mayfield, and Tony Gonzalez | Special Sneak Peek

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Rob Gronkowski & Julian Edelman get on our first batch of dudes in a very special sneak peek episode of Dudes on Dudes. We’re talking Randy Moss and the priceless pieces of wisdom he gave Rob & Jules, Baker Mayfield and his incredible rebirth in Tampa, and Tony Gonzalez and his relationship with the number three. We wrap it up by laying out our patented dude categories.  Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love? again. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're not the smartest dudes, Julian. But we're also not the biggest idiots. Yeah, no. We are idiots, in a good way, though. In the best way possible. We're not like IQ going to like knock you off the charts. Welcome to dudes on dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Grancowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes on our first episode. we are talking some serious dudes.

We are talking Randy Moss. Whenever I pay anyone in cash, I always say straight cash, homie. That's going to live on forever. You got Moss. Then we're going to get in to old Baker Mayfield. He's gotten that second life. He ate that mushroom in Mario and got that extra life.

I was breaking some PR records this year in the wait room. And he was cheering me on when we were going nuts. And then we have Tony Gonzalez, a guy from the past that we just want to bro out on. Tony Gonzalez was one of my heroes growing up. He exemplified what being a titan was. We'll break down their games, we'll share some insider stories,

and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. And then we wrap it up by grading our former teammates that are turned media darling. Bronk, let's get into it. Why did we start this show, grunk? Well, we started the show because Jules and I were great teammates together.

We were teammates for nine years. on New England. We've been teammates off the field as well from the very beginning when you brought me out to Splash in the city of Boston, my first night out ever. I still remember it to this day. And we love talking sports. We love naming dudes. We love hanging out.

And these are the kind of conversations we had that we will be sharing that we had in the locker room. That's what the show is all about. Conversations where a dude brings his other dude friend to a football game, to a baseball game. And they're sitting up in the nosebleed, having a conversation about their favorite player, making a big play in the game, just getting entertained while also being entertaining at the same time. So that's why it's dudes on dudes, just having a good old dude time. It's basically a fly in the wall how we talk.

Whatever comes up to our mind, we will be talking about with dudes. Dudes on dudes just browing out to the max power, eating some popcorn, sipping your favorite drink, whatever it is it is. So that's what we're going to do. We're going to basically sit here and we're going to talk about one guy for 10 minutes. We're going to give a 10 minute time limit. We're going to talk about his career. We'll talk about stuff off the stories.

We'll talk about stories if we have stories with that person. And we're just going to kind of talk about a dude and why we respect him, why we love him. And then we're going to put him in a category of what we think he is. And then we want to hear what you guys ultimately think in the comment section. So who's the first guy? We're going to do, Rob. And we're going to start with a former player, a guy that everyone knows, a Hall of Fameer out there.

Guy that we played with. A guy that we play with on New England. On New England. About two years for you. Two years for me. A quarter season for myself, my rookie year. One and a quarter for me. But everyone knows who he is.

Randy freaking Moss. Please pull the picture out. Randy Moss was an absolutely. dominant force on the football field. I don't want to put him in the category right away. I didn't want to describe the category. We're not starting the clock yet either, are we? But the guy had personality.

Everyone loves him to this day. He's a great TV. He's awesome on TV. TV analyst now. Awesome on TV. He's mossing people still to this day. You got moths. What is segment?

You got moths. You know who this is, Rob? You know what's the shot from? No, what's the shot from? This shot from. This shot is from when he was leaving the player's parking lot, I believe. I think on a Tuesday after he got fined for mooning Green Bay. Remember he got fined for Mooning Green Bay?

And this is like right immediately after when some reporter came up to him and said, Randy, what do you think about getting fining? And he said, straight cash, homie. That's what Randy is. And that quote is still used to this day. Straight cash, homie. Straight cash, homie. Whenever I pay anyone in cash, I always say straight cash, homie.

Always. Every single time. That's going to live on for. ever. How many years ago was that? That was a long time ago. 20? No, it wasn't 20. I was in high school, man, when that happened. He was on the Minnesota Vikings, right? Yeah, he was on the Vikings at that time. So that was like, what, 05? Maybe 05. I think we need to start this. 20 years ago. Do we start the clock now?

Rob's got a little research that he's done. Now, Rob, how did you get this research? I just typed in the player's name on co-pilot and what type of, you know, football player they are or a person. and they are and it just popped up. And, you know, you got to work smarter, not harder, Jules. You got to work smarter. That's what's all about. It is. So let's, what did, uh, co-pilot say?

And this will also help out my reading skills. See, dudes on dudes, I mean, we're not the smartest dudes, Julian. No. But we're also not the biggest idiots. Yeah, no. We have common sense. Yeah. And we're here, you know, doing this show as well to help us out in life as well.

I would say we're idiots. I would say we're idiots. We're not dumb. Yes, yes. We are idiots. In a good way, though. Yeah. best way possible.

We're not like IQ going to like knock you off the charts. But, you know, like we're also not going to spend, you know, like all your money. If you have like $2, you're going to spend 50. That's like common sense. Yeah, exactly. There you go. You hit it right on the nose. And our reading skills, I wouldn't say are, you know.

No, my reading skills are terrible. Everyone knows. So this is going to help my reading skills. It's going to help my creativity doing this show as well. And that's why I wanted to do it. I feel like it's going to help us out on Fox, you know, just being able to talk. So we're building muscles. And we're also going to invest.

in Navidia because we're going to use their AI. Let's go. So here we go. Or no. We got Randy Moss, right? Yeah, Randy Moss. All right. What is Randy Moss?

Randy Moss was a dynamic and explosive wide receiver known for his exceptional speed, leaping ability, and playmaking skills. His deep threat capability made him a constant challenge for defenders as he could stretch to field and make spectacular catches. Moss was renowned. Renowned, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

renowned for his ability to make acrobatic catches and score touchdowns, earning him a reputation as one of the most talented and dangerous receivers in the NFL. Over his career, he was selected to multiple Pro Bowls and was a key figure in the 2007 New England Patriots record-setting offense. He was. He was. Start the clock. Start the clock. We got 10 minutes, which each player that we will be talking, talking about. First of, that's pretty damn good by co-pilot. Yeah, co-pilot. I mean, that's, and Rob, I think you knocked it out the park. I was a co-pilot reading that. I, no, I think you

were the actual pilot. Yeah, I was. I was, yeah, the actual pilot. I had no co-pilot. You were there, but you weren't there. I was a co-pilot by just sitting there. You were the passenger. I was a passenger. Yes, you were. I was a passenger, but who, no who was the ride. It was freaking good. It was freaky. Yeah. Which was also Randy's nickname. It was. It was a It was, Randy's name. It was the freak. Randy went to West. What do you go?

He went to Marshall. There's so many crazy stories about he committed to Florida State. Then he went to Notre Dame. Did you ever hear those? I never heard any of those stories. But he ended up at Marshall University. Where is Marshall anyways? West Virginia.

It's in West Virginia. Yeah. And you know he's from Rand West Virginia? Like Randy Moss is from Rand, West Virginia. He used to say that all the time in practice. Hey, Randy. Randu, remember he would always say that. Like him and like, who else was from there?

White chocolate was from there. Oh, who's white chocolate? I eat white chocolate. Who's white chocolate? Jason Williams. Oh, yeah. They were teammates, right? They were teammates in high school.

Dude, he always loves to fish, too. That was the one thing you always knew about moss. In the off season, you were never... He was like a farm boy. Yeah. Yeah. He loved outdoors. You love fishing?

I don't... You know, I was traumatized at a young age. brother made me hold like two catfish when I was like six years old and he told me they could sting you and they had big old tentacles and it fucking traumatized me so not a big fisher I was like the kid wakeboarding my brother was like the fisher you fish no I always got seasick every time we took that boat out yeah you know and like a mile off of shore I was always throwing up and like really dizzy so I never became a big fisherman I mean I had a pond behind my house growing up so I get like those sunny fish Like that was cool, but never really a big fisherman.

I eat fish though. I like salmon. What's your favorite fish? Black and salmon. Black and salmon? Yeah, with some good spices on it. I like a halibut. Nice light fish.

Yeah. All right. Back to Randy. Back to Randy. He was, what? Hall of Fame. What year was that? He went to the Hall of Fame.

Football Hall of Fame, that is. What was it? Like 2018. 2018, it was? We won a Super Bowl. He was a 21st overall pick. And he had a lot of the, there was a lot of like turbulence in his early career, you know, in college and stuff,

which I always thought made Randy, you know, misunderstood. You know, he kind of, what would you say when he was in the locker room? Like he was always a very caring dude, but he always had his guard up. He always had his guard up. But like on the low, he would always give you love. Like for me, when I was a rookie receiver, I used to have to go out and buy all the receivers, like lunch whenever we would have a way trips. Remember before the travel, the rookie goes and grabs, you know, something from Bar-Lou or you go somewhere, you know, Jimmy Johns or something,

and you get the order. And Randy would always make me do it, but I was a seventh rounder, so I wasn't, I wasn't paid by any means, and guys would be giving you crazy orders. Randy would always throw me like three, 400 bucks. He'd pay for it and make me go get it. So like he was always, he was just always quite, like he would kind of get on me in front of people, but then when there was no one around. He'd always love me up. And like, you know, like he, I think he was just putting that on there to make me, you know, make me accountable. Yeah. For the, you know, quarter career, you know, quarter year I play with Randy. I thought he was a great teammate, man. And like you said,

I feel like he was misunderstood in the public eye a little bit. He didn't really care about, you know, the glam and all that. He, like, he just, he just rubbed it off his shoulders. Like, it was nothing. Like, it was water, man. But he cared about being a good guy. And he never thought he was too big for anyone else. I mean, Randy was the best wide receiver in the game at the time, maybe of all time. And he cared about, you know, being relatable

to the young bucks. He did. He made me feel very warm and welcome. What do you do? To the New England Patriots when I was there. What do you do to make you feel warm and welcome? So Moss always loved, you know, kicking it back, having a conversation with myself when I was a rookie. I was struggling. I was in the playbook like crazy,

struggling a little bit. But he just loved how I played the game. And he always imitated me because I was big. I was goofy, you know, and he liked that kind of stuff. He loved it. And every time I had a catch or, you know, I had a touchdown, I'd be like myself, you know, I'd be giggling like this. He'd be like, dude, bro, you're always giggling.

You're always having a good time, gronk. Like, it's coolest shit, man. Cool as shit, how you are, man. And I'd be like, it made me feel warm and welcome to be myself on the Patriots. And I'd be like, I always did that on the field after a catch I get up. Like, I don't know. That was just me. I was getting hyped.

And Moss was like, man, I like how you do this. Man, I like, like that cool shit how you do that. Like, I'm going to do that after I score a touchdown. I was like, for real? He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that. So what happened? Game, I think game number two. Buffalo versus Buffalo.

He scored like, you know, 40-yard or post right down the middle. Like, you know, like Randy Moss does because fastest wide receiver I probably ever seen play the game. Freakish, you know, stride. It looked like he was going slow. He looked like, but he was just always passing people. And he was just gliding. It was like a jet ski on water, like on like flat surface, just gliding across the water. Yes.

And it didn't look like he was going 70. No. But he was going 70, maybe 80. On water, which is fast. Yes. So we get to the game. He scores that touchdown and he starts doing this. Like, he's like, yeah, he's being grok in the end zone.

And I'm 21 years old. And this is Randy, Frickin Moss, imitating me after one of his touchdowns. I thought it was the coolest thing. I actually never even shared that story with anyone. I'm not even, I'm talking like I never shared that story with a friend, a family member. It's just kind of known within the team, you know, within the team and the organization. So that's one of the coolest stories of all time, you know, about Randy Moss that I have personally.

And he just made me feel welcome to the team. And he just made me feel like myself because he just loved how I was and how I played the game. And it was just a special moment, that's for sure. He fucked with dudes that worked hard. He did. I remember on Tuesdays he would come in and do these workouts where he would do like side step-ups, these like step-ups, quick feet.

And so I would jump in with them every once in a while. And he'd do all these medicine ball things where like he'd have like one leg on a medicine ball and do like a push-up and, you know, it was working your core. And so I would always see him do shit. And then I would go do it. You know, I want to do it everything, anything Randy did.

but like if he saw you working, he never really busted your balls. That's the kind of guy, you know, but if you weren't, if you were, you know, if you were talking and you were a guy that wasn't heard or something,

like any other patriot, any of the patriot, like guys, you know, you're going to hear shit. You want to know, you want to also know why I would say Randy was misunderstood a little bit

because he was real. Yeah. And when people are real, people don't like that, man. Because real things can sound like assholy. Yeah, exactly.

It sounds as assholes. Like if he didn't want your freaking food, he's not going to eat your food. Like he just didn't want it, you know? If he didn't like you, he didn't like you. Like, it's just real shit. And then that's what makes people misunderstood. I still can't fathom that Thanksgiving game that he had. What was the screenshot of his?

Well, he had three catches, like 146 yards. Was it? 163 yards on three catches. Oh, and three touchdowns. All his catches were over 50 yards. It was when he was with the Minnesota Vikings. Thanksgiving Day. He ate the turkey after the game as well.

Yeah. It was just Moss being Moss. Well, Randy was so special that we actually had a play named after him. Moss. Yeah. Moss. Haas Moss Moss. It was the Moss signal.

That was the signal because it was all goes. It was a go on the left. It was a seam on the left. It was a seam on the right. And every time Brady did that, I got excited because I was always a slack guy going down the field. So Moss, every time I saw that play, I thought of Moss and just felt like I had to turn the burners on. well.

Rob, you had how many, what was your biggest touchdown season? I had 17 touchdowns in 2012, but 18 because one of them counted as a rush. 18 touchdowns? He had 23 touchdowns. How fucking nuts is that? Fricking nuts. I don't think anyone's ever going to touch that. I don't know with the 18.

I don't think anyone's going to touch it still. No way. Because guys aren't playing as many games. Like they don't play the whole season. Yeah. I mean, that was a freaky year. I think just because Moss was just so dominant, 23 touchdowns, because when you have 23 touchdowns,

Moss was only one who can get away from double coverage and then run away from it because he was so fast and freaky. Ain't no one ever going to touch that 23 touchdown record. I mean, I was pretty close that one year when I had 17. And then actually he was at practice, one of my best training camps of all time when we were in West Virginia. Moss came, whatever, at that dump place. Greenboro.

Yeah, Greenboro. It's great for football. coaches loved it because all you did was focus on football. But he couldn't go to the casino though. It was fucking bullshit. Good thing. We would have lost all our money or won a lot more money and then had it could have retired in training camp.

But Moss was there when we were facing the Saints in practice and I was dominant, man. This was a year I was on fire, unstoppable. It was actually the year we won the Super Bowl versus Atlanta when I was unstoppable. It was just unfortunate that I got lit up up the middle of that year. But I had like four touchdowns in a row. Rovers the Saints in 7 on 7 and Moss was right there and I was like boss I'm coming for you man that touchdown record is mine you go gronk you got it boy you're the only one gronk you're the only one that can beat my touchdown record gronk you got this boy I want to see you do I go moss I am going

to do a buddy I'm on coming for it 23 no problem I mean it was kind of realization at that time I was dreaming big but it was just so cool to have moss right there hell yeah talking shit to randy Moss, I'm going to beat his touchdown record in middle of practice. It was one of the coolest moments I've ever had in practice at Moss, you to man. And the freakiest catch I've ever seen Moss make that I will still remember for, I will remember for the rest of my life. The Revis? It was the, what, second game?

It was the second game of the season. Of the season. That was my first start. It was. So when he did the invitation of me, it was actually the first game of the season. I think we played, no. No, this was, was that, that was. That was, I don't think you were there yet.

No, I was there. So we played the, we played Cincinnati, my very first game. Yeah. Then we went to the Jets. We lost. Most freakiest catch I've ever seen. We lost the game. Yeah, we lost the game.

Brady just tossed it up there. He let the play develop. No one was open. So he tossed it up one-on-one coverage. Moss versus Derell Revis, the best cornerback in the game. Moss put his hand up in the air and just snagged it, one-hand or right in the end zone, about three yards in.

It was freaky because he extended all the way. It wasn't like it was close to his body. He made that extension. But it was effortless too. Effortless. It looked like he barely did it. When he was going, he was just like, ooh.

And then, oh, and then we played the Buffalo Bills, the third game. And that's when he did the imitation. That imitation, or the fan? He was imitating me. Oh, no, of myself. The grand giggles. And then we played the Miami Dolphins,

the fourth game of the season. and then after that game he wasn't there he wasn't there anymore it was sad it was you want to know something jules oh i remember it man i remember it we were we were partying man when he got traded were we were we it was monday night and you know us we're young bucks man we went to foxwoods the casino and we woke up was it a monday night game no no it was a monday night game it was a monday It was a Monday night game. So did we have a buy week at? I think we had a buy week or something because we went to Foxwoods Tuesday night

because it was industry night at Foxwoods. And you know us, we're in the industry of partying at that time. We were maniacs. We were maniacs. This is dudes and dudes, bad. We're just having a good conversation, you know. We're just telling our stories, just living up, you know, what we did in the past. And I remember we were together, man.

And you were pretty honest. over i remember and then i was hungover too and we turned on the tv we didn't know anything what was going on and we turned on the tvs p.m and randy moss there it was breaking news traded to the minnesota vikings and literally we were like heartbroken we were hung over and heartbroken it was probably the worst situation you could be in yeah yeah but we always climb out of those holes that was but uh Talk about the Sunday scaries. Yeah, that was the Tuesday morning scaries right there. You wake up, you know, oh, fuck, we got practice.

Rainy Moss is gone. That was one of the examples of my early times in my career that I was starting to learn that the NFL was a business. Oh, yeah. Because as a rookie, you don't know that it's a business, you know. You're going to make the team. You think you're playing forever. You can't trade Randy. You can't trade Randy Moss.

You can't trade Randy Moss. She's the greatest of all time. And it was really cool, though, because he did that press conference, I think the week before, like, he wants a new deal. He had his headphones around his neck. He kind of went off, like the Patriots ain't giving me my new contract. And I thought that was really cool because that's the Randy Moss I knew, like going off, just being a real dude.

Yeah, he knows. And I love that shit. I love when players act up, man. And I thought it was the coolest thing. So it was sad. to see him go. But it was also sad because that was part of the reason I feel like he went. You know, Bill takes no shit.

He doesn't. But that's when you're wrecking, you realize that this is definitely a business. All right. So some final thoughts. Randy Moss. What kind of dude is Randy Moss then? Yeah. What kind of dude is he?

I would say. So we have a stud at like athleticism, football IQ, the pedigree. We have the freak, unparalleled, physical ability, one of one, pretty much. much a mutant. That sounds pretty close. We have a dog who's relentless, motivated, physical and mental toughness. We got the whiz dude who's intellect, innovative, very clutch. And we got a dude's dude. Positive attitude, locker room guy, calm, cool, collect, glue guy. He's like a glue guy, dude's dude. And let me tell you, every dude that we're going to be talking about, hit all of them. They hit them all. Their attributes are all five of them. But we're trying to

find the one that exemplifies them the most. And with Randy Moss, it's easy. I feel like this is a no brainer. No brainer. No brainer. It's already in his nickname. The freak. The freak. I mean, he was, I remember, he's just so fast. He was so he could jump. He, he, he, he could catch the ball. The intricacies of the game were like that were, you would try to coach the guys like late hands and stacking the receiver. Like those are the things that like we would try to coach. He just did it naturally. That's like how he like he just knew how to judge a ball and high point balls.

Like he we literally have segments named after him going up and and just mossing dude. And the way he, like the ability he had to just leap when he was running full speed. That's crazy. Is what made him so great because he can have a defender on him because defenders were just as fast as them. Yeah. Some of them were. Some of them were.

Don't let Randy here. Hey, man, get on a 200 slate. All right. Slate, get on that two. Remember he used to challenge Slate all the time? He did. But every once in a while, there was a guy that, you know, it was kind of covering him.

But what did he do? He just leaped right over him like a frog and made the catch. And that's what made him so freaky. It's so crazy to think, like, when you're running full speed and you got to track a ball, your eyes are bouncing. Like, that's like some of the first things you see, like when from your, like,

off-season training and you jump into like, you know, start competing against guys. The first thing that you always have to dial in is the bouncy eyes. My eyes would bounce and I'm going like a guy to go full speed and be able to concentrate and then like effortlessly like a ballerina jump off one leg, go back. Moss a dude over two. Like that's that's a freak. He's a freak. I remember, Jules, like you used to have always braided me.

Moss would do it. So I'm doing it. So like right after the games, like when you landed from. away game he'll go right to the weight room to get his workout in yeah and you big mosh's doing it i'm gonna do it you know like you copied everything he did i hey man but i don't blame you man he's the greatest of all time i would copy him tom anyone who was around i'm copy west i'm copy it's a copycat lee all right you loved your dudes i love hanging on your dudes well you become that was one dude you wanted the dude on you become a creature of the dudes you hang around that's the truth

You know, you become a dude of the dudes. That's why I'm, that's why I'm on podcasts, you know, because I've been hanging out with you, Jules, and you have your podcast, so I want to podcast. See, now it's just dudes rubbing off on dudes. So we did Randy Moss. All right, freak of nature. Freak.

No doubt about it. He's a freak, dude. No question. We'll be right back after this quick break. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small, in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist,

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Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. Next dude. Who are we going to do next? Bum-ba-bum-bump-bump-bump-pum. So do we want to do a current player or a legend? I think let's do it. Well, current? Yeah, let's do current. Let's do Someone who's playing right now. Someone who's playing because Moss is not playing right now. So let's switch it up a little bit. All right. So the next guy, we're going to go.

Yeah. You know, he's been researched. He's been researched. He, you know, at first he was on every commercial. You could see, I believe, insurance of some sort or anything. Then he got kicked out of somewhere. Yeah. And then he went to another place.

Someone's dad got him fired. Someone's from social media, a social media post from someone's dad got this guy fired from the Cleveland Browns. He goes into another environment off of a plane, gets a win on a Thursday night game. Then he finds a new home with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and has an unbelievable first game with four touchdowns, brings him to the playoffs last year,

the guy who had to replace Tom Brady. Baker Mayfield now, Gronk, what does the co-pilot say? Oh, hold on. Let me read, please. Let's see. Baker Mayfield, ladies and gentlemen, AKA the baker, aka the baked potato. Shake and bake.

AKA shake and bake, aka Baker cake. Extra frosting with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. You're a poet and you didn't even know it. All right. Let's see what co-pilot has to say. We're smarter than what people think, all right? I think people are dudes. So people think dudes are idiots, not smart, but we're smart.

What is Tom saying? You know, losers focus on what winning. are doing when winners focus on what getting or getting better. Well, what's ours? Losers focus on what winners do and dudes focus on other dudes? That's it. That's it, Joel. Yeah, that's it.

Co-pilot, let's go. Baker Mayfield is known for being a dynamic and competitive quarterback with a strong arm and quick release. Quick. He is recognized for his playmaking ability. including his proficiency in extending plays and making throws on the run. Mayfield's leadership, confidence, and competitive nature are key aspects of his game. Man.

Though his performance can be somewhat inconsistent. Hey, Baker, that was co-pilot saying that. That's co-pilot. That's co-pilot. And the dad that got you fired. Probably. Yeah, so he's definitely saying you're inconsistent as well. It's taking the data from those, those, those, it's taking that.

he has demonstrated the capability to lead offenses and make impressive plays. But his success can vary depending on the surrounding talent and coaching. Oh, man, like I said, that's not me. That's talking. That's co-pilot. That's not me. Let's start the clock. Let's talk about Baker.

We got 10 minutes. We're going to try to chop it down. We're stopping no matter what at 10 minutes. Yes, we are. We can't go 20 minutes. The only reason we went 20 minutes because it was Moss. It was 15. Hall of Famer.

No, we went 20. Ready. Go. All right. Baker Mayfield. Went to Texas Tech. Then he went to Oklahoma. I didn't even know that.

So did he sit out a year? I think he did. Did he? I think he sat out a year. And then he went to Oklahoma, won a national championship, won a Heisman. Did he win a national champion? He won a Heisman. Hold on.

In honor and honor of Baker Mayfield, too, I'm going to take off my New England Patriots hat. I'm going to put on my other former team. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let's go Bucksucks. Do I have a Buccaneers hat anywhere? Hold on. And because Baker is currently now on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as well. He lit it up first week. He lit it up, man.

Four touchdowns, came out, stop. You know what, Bake last year they started or they finished the year on a high. Like, didn't they win a bunch of games, I think? Yes, they did. They had a strong playoff run. They beat the Eagles who currently went, who were the former Super Bowl runner up. the year before. And then they lost to the Detroit Lions,

who had a solid team, man. And the Lions played a heck of a game, that game in the playoffs as well. 100%. And Bake, that's a big situation for him to come up in, you know, replace Tom Brady at a new place. You know, so like,

for him to have that confidence that AI told us about, you know, like it's, it shows. He's so confident. He's very, very, you could put him in any situation and he's going to come away like he thinks you should get away, which is like, that's what you want from your guy. That is what you want. And I would say,

you know, his tough time that he had in Cleveland wasn't necessarily his fault either. I think he had a couple, you know, different offensive coordinators. And he was banged up. Remember it was last year he tried to get hurt. Banged up a little bit. I think a couple different head coaches with the Cleveland Browns. It just wasn't a good situation. It was kind of a curse situation. Be the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. He was a, about the 15th starter in the last, what, five years for the Browns. So he still won a playoff game with the Browns who hadn't won a playoff game in a very, very, very, very, very long.

He was very successful. And I feel like the Browns organization and players just needed someone to blame. I would say that's kind of why he got shipped out of there. He was just the easy guy to blame. Yeah. The easy guy to go after is always the quarterback. It was, I mean, you know, he put himself in a lot of those situations with you put on the TV, you would see bake everywhere.

Yeah, you would. And so when you do those types of things, expectation and standards get to an even crazier level and the people don't manage them. And like he goes out that last year that he had, he needed to get shoulder surgery. So he tries to play hurt. And he looked, he didn't look like himself.

He didn't play very well. It was very inconsistent. And then they go and ship them off the next year, you know, and they bring in, you know, Deshawn. So, you know, but what is he done? He's leaned back on what he is. He's a competitor, man. This dude competes to the very end.

You've seen it in all facets of his career from college when he took the flag and he spiked it. Like, this guy's just a fiery dude. He's got a swagger to him. You know, he's kind of polarizing with a lot of people at the beginning of his career. You either loved him or you hated him. But now he's gotten to a point where he's gotten that second life. he ate that mushroom in Mario and got that extra life. And now, like, people are kind of like rooting for him because they kind of understand

him a little more. And he's, you know, I think he's coming to his own this year. He has come into his own. And I feel like he learned from his mistakes as well, man. Yeah. He's a good dude, man. And he's resilient, man. He was a walk-on at Texas Tech.

And then whatever he did, I don't know his whole story, transferred to Oklahoma. He was a Heisman winner. I mean, who goes from Walk on the Heisman winner? He must be one of the few, if not. the only one to ever do that. He's got some Baker swag. He has now signed after bouncing, leaving Cleveland, getting shipped out,

going to the Panthers. You just know that he's kind of like a dude's dude. He's kind of like a dog. He's headbutting other players to get him going without his helmet on, just bleeding all over to place. Other, you know, players love to see that. Your teammates love to see that. That means you're just all in

with them with them. Didn't you? Didn't you recently? You throw him with them a few times, haven't you? I haven't thrown with him yet. We had a couple times a couple planned sessions to throw and then actually the field, the place told us that it was occupied so

they didn't want Baker and the gronk on their field. That's fucking bullshit. Yeah, we would have tear it up their field too much. I think that's what it was and they had a game that night or something but he went from Cleveland. I can't just throw spikes on it. Ruin a field. The best thing I think ever happened to him was going to L.A. for like that

half season and going under Coach John McVeigh and getting that opportunity to start a couple game and just show people who he really was, man. You know, just to go in a new program, be there for a week or two, learn from his lessons. I mean, mistakes, I would say, over the past the years prior, and just go in and go win a game on Thursday night football. And then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they need the quarterback. That's a team that I know that you shut down.

I mean, I know Tom called you and was like, hey, Jules, you want to come to the Buccaneers? And you said, no, I'm a patriot for life. if you were too cool for us. So, yeah. So Baker, not, Baker, though, no, no, he's a dudes dude. He said, I ain't too cool for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers like Julian the Squirrel Adelman. I'm going to go there. I'm going to show them what's up.

I was under contract, Rob. This is a resurgence of my career, which would have been a resurgence of your career, Jules. If you came down, you would probably still be playing with this guy if you went to the bus. I had to go down with the shit, buddy. He showed him what's up last year. I had to go down with the goddamn shit. Have you seen Titanic? You know the old captain?

Yes. Yes. That's like me and you know the violin guy? Yes. I'm playing. You're the violin guy. I'm playing. I respect that, bro.

You had to go down with the, but back to Baker. Yes. So I worked out with Baker, you know, you thought I threw with him, but I said I worked out. Obviously you didn't freaking pay attention to me,

Julie, when I was talking to you a couple days ago. I was. Yeah, yeah, you knew I hung out with him, but I said I worked out with him. I didn't throw with him.

But I might have said, actually that we had a couple of throwing sessions planned, but they got canceled. Did you, did you catch a ball from him? No, I did not catch a ball from him. He didn't throw a single ball. No, he did not throw a single ball. But he's like a, he's the ultimate, like, teammate. He's like an ultimate locker room guy.

It's like a guy that, you know, quarterbacks aren't really like this. I mean, he's a quarterback that will go have a beer with you at the bar. He's a quarterback that'll, yeah, and get fucked up with you. We didn't get fucked up or anything like that. I'm just saying I could just tell he's a guy like that. He's a guy that will come over and chop it up while watching the game, whatever it is. So the WMBA or if it's soccer, you know, whatever it is, you know, he'll have his opinion. He'll make you laugh.

He's a guy that would be, no, he's not a politician at all. But if you think about it, he's like the mayor of the locker room, he kind of like, hey. In a way, but no. Hey, what's up, dude? No, politicians are sometimes bullshit. He's no bullshit. He's no bullshit. He's no bullshit.

He's no bullshit, Jules. He's a guy that wants to see you. be an absolute dog. He's a guy that's cheering you on. I was breaking some PR records this year in the wait room. And he was cheering me on and we were going nuts after the PR records that I hit. He's just hyping me up. I'm hyping him up to break PR records.

He's a guy that's not afraid to get dirty. He's under the bench press. He's doing the squats with you. He's doing the deadlifts. And what I really like about the dude is like he's just a normal dude, man. He just wants to have a good time. He actually signed a three-year, 100. million dollar deal the morning of and then he came to the workout session that day and it was like

nothing happened it was just like he showed up he didn't have an ego he didn't have a big head or nothing he just showed up from the mistakes freaking put the work in that day and hit some more PRs and that's what i appreciate about him he's a dude man he's a dog he wants to get dirty he wants to just have a good time he wants to laugh he's just fiery fiery I can see I could see him doing that. And he's, I mean, he's a funny guy. He is funny. He is definitely funny.

He's got a good personality. He does. He's got a great personality. That's for sure. He's gritty, you know. I would see, I feel like he would get in the trenches with you. You definitely get in the trenches with him. If necessary.

You can't, you know, there's something to be said. You know, I bet you a Cleveland looking back on this whole thing is probably like, man, We probably wish we had Baker still. Cleveland made a mistake, that's for sure, letting Baker Mayfield go. They 100% did. I think it was the best thing that happened to Baker was him getting let go by Cleveland.

I mean, they're cursed, bro. They're cursed. Their quarterback situation is cursed. I would say the best quarterback they had was Joe Flacco. And then they let him go. He's a backup now with the Colts. 10 minutes up. Oh, game over. Final thoughts.

Final thoughts. Oh, man. Walk on. Walk on the Heisman. So in the category, I mean, this one is pretty easy to me, too. You know, you got stud, you have freak, you have a whiz, you have a dude's dude, and you have a dog. Dog, he's relentless, motivated, self-motivated, physical mental toughness, proved his physical toughness, trying to play a year with a bumshould. I'm saying it bakes a dog.

You really? You're going with dog. I was going to say his best two attributes, I would say, is being a dog and a dude's dude. So dudes dude or dog? I would say since I worked out with him, I felt like he was a dude's dude. He was definitely a dog. There's no doubt about that. But he's a good. He's a positive guy. He had great attitude. He was a locker room guy. He was calm. You know, he was collected. That's for sure. A dude's always confident, too. Like, in an optimistic way.

Yes, he was. You can see that. I'm going, yeah, the dude's dude is perfect. I feel like he was a dude's dude, my man. Yeah, dudes dude's dude. He goes play paintball with you. He'd go freaking to the bar, pound six beers. Dave and Busters.

Dave and Busters, whatever. You name it. Oh, pickleball. I play pickleball with him, man. Is he good? Just a normal dude, man. Just a normal dude out there. Just trying to have a good time.

Yeah, he's decent. Nah. Actually, no, he wasn't that good at pickleball. Scotty Miller and I beat him. Scottie Miller is really good Is he? Yeah, Scottie Miller really good Is he like tennis player?

Yeah, he's like a little like He's like the guy that just want to slap Because he's just always just nonstop going and pickleball Like always talking garbage Yeah, he's the flea. He's the scotty millers to flee and pickleball But he's great to have on your team By that.

Yeah Dude's dude for Baker All right, let's get to our last guy Our last guy Is someone that played before us we never played with him a legend tall handsome crazy stories about him you know crazy urban legends about like he would only have al douglis el dublaes what is that we're not saying what the al douges mean i don't even know what that means what type of al douges they were but i

heard the word in the street was al dupre's only or not What does El Doublet mean? Not just one, but two jewels. El DuBlaes. He was so good looking, he wouldn't allow just one. El Dublae, it is. He would allow two only. I mean, that's just a word on the street.

That's the word on the street. That's the urban myth. And let me tell you, it was my rookie year when I heard that urban myth. And, man, did I think it was one of the coolest things I've ever heard? I wanted to be like this guy more than anyone else, man. Del DuBlaid Tony Gonzalez. I mean, I already kind of know already from the beginning, what category he fits in.

But we'll wait until the guy. What's our co-pilot say, Rob? Let's see what our co-pilot says about Tony. Hmm, good old Tony Gonzalez. He basically has every record in the record book at number one for a tight end. Played a long time. Keep it for the time limit. We'll keep it for the time limit.

All right. Hit the time limit now. We're going to start the time limit. when the co-pilots. Yeah, that makes sense. Better. We're taking off. Co-pilot.

Check your engines. Check. Engines on. Tony Gonzalez was a highly skilled and versatile tight end in American football. Known for his exceptional receiving abilities. He was renowned, right? That was the right word again. Renowned.

Hey, they use this word twice now. I mean, you know. That's not good English skills by. That's not good. We're smarter than co-pilot. for his precise route running, reliable hands, and athleticism. Over his career,

Gonzalez became one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. Earning 14 Pro Bowl selections. Let me put this stat into perspective. I've only played 11 football seasons in my career. 14 Pro Bowl selections. Jesus. Timeless. Latin don't crack, baby. They don't.

And numerous records for receptions and receiving yards at his position, including the tight end touchdown record as well. I think he has like a hundred, like 26 touchdowns. Actually, no, Tonyo Gates holds that record. Antonio, yeah, he does. My bad. But Tony Gonzalez holds every other record.

All right. His ability to contribute both as a receiver and a blocker made him a key asset to any offense. And that's the truth. He played for two teams. He was an absolute legend with the Kansas City Chiefs. And then he went to like the Atlanta Falcons at like what, 33, 34 years old. And still balled.

And still balled at that age. I remember Coach Belcher. We played the Falcons a couple of times when I was a rookie, second year, third year player. And all he did was circle Tony Gonzalez and said, we have to stop this guy. If we want to win, if we want to have, you know, the ability to have a chance. If the defense wants to perform well, we have to stop Tony Gonzalez. We got to jam him off the line. He makes contested catches.

So you got to follow through with the play. You know, make sure he doesn't get up and jump over you. Make sure he doesn't turn and get that ball. You got to follow. every movie makes from the start of the play to the end of the play. And you got to double cover him. You got to. You got him.

I loved him though because I remember at Berkeley, he was playing basketball dunking on dudes. Like he was a fucking athlete. He's one of the first like athletic tight ends, like pure athlete tight ends that the game is seen. He was so smooth and he was one of the first ever to start that tradition of, hey, a basketball player, a power forward can play. in the NFL at the tight end position. And he played basketball at Cal. So shout out to the PAC 10.

RIP, RIP. I played in the PAC 10. Rest and peace to the whole PAC 12 conference. I didn't get to play in the PAC 10, but keep going, RP. Yeah. He made it to the Sweet 16 at the University of California. And in 2002, he played in the NBA summer league as well for the Miami Heat.

That's just a type of athlete Tony Gonzalez was. And I feel like that's kind of why he was the player he was. And why he was so durable too, because he had that basketball background. I feel like basketball players sustain their athleticism and skill set way longer than football players. They're way more fluid. They're way more flexible. Flexibility. There's so much more smooth.

I feel like it's just- Less muscles sometimes better for that. It is. And I feel like football players trained well. I mean, trained the wrong way. You trained too hard. We trained too hard, made us too stiff. and that's what made him the player that he was

because he trained like a basketball player. He always just was smooth always. He always looked smooth. You know, apparently the urban religion is that he smoothed off the field as well. But, you know, whenever you saw him go up and catch a ball, like in slow motion, it almost looked like he was a dancer, like with how effortless and light he was on his feet for such a big dude. And then him always dunking the football on the goal pose.

is something that I remember through my childhood and early on in my career when he was at the later part of his career that he did all the time. And kind of like that football, you know, I mean, the basketball transition to the NFL.

I feel like the guy was so durable as well. He missed like, what, two games in his career? Yeah. Play, what, how many seasons? You only miss two games? 18 seasons?

How many seasons did he play? 18, 19, 20. He missed, how many games? There was something ridiculous. That's insane. It was just nuts. He was just an absolute, animal so smooth so athletic and he was great off the field too one of the best looking guys i've

ever seen still still to this damn he still looks like he can play i was watching him on thursday night football last night but he's a he's a great analyst as well you know he just speaks to truth he gives his insight he's great for amazon uh and he was just looking so he was looking tan shiny handsome he had that white outfit on with like he had like that french kind of Thing going. Hairdue was on point. Hair has always been on point. Tony Gonzalez has had spectacular.

It seems like it hasn't colored. I bet this guy would walk into a club or bar in middle of his heydays. And he wouldn't even have to say a word. And the freaking januaries would have to come out and put those signs that say, caution, wet. Don't slip. He is that good looking. Because he got all the girls panties.

going. There's no doubt. He didn't even have to say a word. He would just walk in. That's the type of swag Tony Gonzalez has. He was that good looking and swaggy aura. And it translated to the field as well. His play was just like a good looking. Rob, what are some of the things that you tried to emulate from Tony's game? Just overall, he was a complete tight end as well. It wasn't the greatest blocker of all time, but he did it. He exemplified what being a tight end was, you know? He went pancake guys, He would get in the way. He would move guys. He was willing to block.

That's kind of what made him so great. Just as a kid, Tony Gonzalez was one of my heroes growing up. I remember in Buffalo when I was there growing up. I was in high school. You know, the bills weren't that good. But there was a chance that Tony Gonzalez was about to get traded to the Buffalo bills. Because he eventually did get traded to the land of Falcons. And there was always talk because he was always on such crappy teams in Kansas City.

And he always performed. He always produced. And that's what made him so great. But there was always trade talks as well at end of his career with Kansas City for like five years because he wanted to go win. And I remember our whole entire high school was talking about Tony Gonzalez going to the Buffalo bill. Just how excited we all were because Tony Gonzalez was going to possibly get traded. It just never happened. Could you imagine high school version of Rob and his boys in Buffalo?

like, Tony Gonzalez is here. We're back to the Super Bowl. Exactly. That was exactly how it went. Oh, my God. It is true. You know, he really did evolve. I think he's one of the huge figures or guys that help evolve the tight end position in that 90s window.

Now, there was great tight ends, the Winslow's and the Dickas in the back of the day. Like, those were really great tight ends. But, you know, it was kind of like those guys. guys put their hand in the dirt and, you know, they, they were just kind of like an extension of the run game that sometimes went out to catch a pass. You know, Tony Gonzalez, he came, like, he became, I remember watching him, which we used to do a lot with you, putting them outside the formation in the red area and saying, hey, we're just going to play jump ball with our tight end. Like, I don't, I don't remember that before Tony Gonzalez. And I'm sure people are going to

hit us in the comment sections with a bunch of guys that did. But, like, for my era of football that I grew up with. That's what I remember. Tony Gonzalez is just always having the ball in his hand, always doubled, finding a way, like super savvy route runner, like space guy because of basketball,

it's very similar to basketball in space. He was great at the space. And then, you know, the guy was just freaking good looking. He was good looking. That was a great way to end that, you know, that phrase of just everything you said about.

Could you, he'd probably be, he'd probably be, considered one of the best? Because they say one of the best with Tony Gonzalez. If he had if he had a Super Bowl, would he be the best? I feel like that not winning the Super Bowl

is definitely hindering him. Yeah. It kind of sucks because he did everything possible and then more every single year. Every year. It was like... For a long time. It wasn't like he had... I think he led the league in receptions one year in 2004,

102 catches. Like, when was the time at Titan led the league in receptions. And like the next year he would have 95 receptions. The next year he would edit 85. The next year he would have whatever, 90 more again. Like he was so freaking consistent and he never won a championship. Like that's a tough situation to be in. That's sad.

That kind of sucks as a player to play that long and be that consistent and just never been on the right team. Yeah. You know, he kind of almost won one with Atlanta. I think they went, you know, to the playoffs. a couple times. Yeah. But that was when we were in our era.

You weren't going to beat us Patriots. No. But that just sucks having little team success and always just giving it your all and always showing up. And it's hindering him, I would say, in the tight end rankings, you know, people say all, Grank, which myself, Kelsey, you know, I mean, Tony Gonzalez is always up there. But I see people not put them in their top five before. Like, you know, there's Antonio Gates.

Mike Dicca, they say. You know, and Winslow. Yeah, Winslow. But Tony Gonzalez exemplified what being a tight end is. Especially nowadays. He's the one that made being a tight end cool to younger kids like myself. I mean, he was such a badass in Kansas City. His rookie year, he had a flu game, a Jordan-type flu game

where he bawled the fuck out, managed to catch a touchdown pass. and he created the performance to eating some chicken soup. Like, how smooth is this guy? Well, what food gives you superpower, Jules? Chicken soup was Tony Gonzalez's superpower. I would say tomato soup. I'm more of a tomato soup. I feel like you were the English muffin with sausage,

egg cheese, sausage, English muffin. I remember every single day you ate that, and it was like giving you your superpower. I'd have a smoothie at five, and then I'd have my right before, right before team eating, sausage egg and cheese. Yeah,

that's what it is. That was your super powerful. Love a sauce. Tomato soup. I never seen you have tomato soup, buddy. I love tomato soup. Yeah,

I never seen you eat it. But I was just trying to reference because of soup. Yeah, but you never eat tomato soup. Did you, did you have a favorite pre-game soup? Super power?

Yeah, I did. I always had my chocolate milk with a peanut butter and jelly and the jelly was my mom's homemade jelly. What's the homemade jelly? What kind of fruit? Strawberry. Strawberry.

jam. Your mom-made homemade jam? Yeah, that's the best strawberry jelly ever. I remember she came over with that chicken buffalo dip or whatever. That was good. With rich crackers and that's what you dip it in. She made that as well. Stop talking about my mom. Let's get on to, let's get on to. That's what dudes do, though. Dudes do talk about moms though. I mean, so I guess so. I mean, you're giving her props. So I guess you can keep talking about my mom. I'm saying anything sideways about mom-a-grown. I know where you go. I know where you go. get out of here. Mrs. Lelman, I love her.

I just saw her. Remember at the live show? Yeah. That was cool. But your dad was there, so I couldn't get a little inappropriate. 10 minutes. So 10 minutes is up.

And what kind of dude is Tony Gonzalez? This one was easy. I mean, he's like I said, he's a dude, you know, he's a dog, he's a freak.

But the most, you know, the most characteristic that Tony Gonzalez exemplifies is definitely on and off the field, big time like no doubt about it he's a freaking stud stud he's a stud he's a stud at everything he does basketball football analyst breaking every record bar settings he's probably a stud yeah super stud

he's like he's like that horse that you like you know you go out and you made it yeah you get that stud come yeah he's a stud he's a stud he's a stud horse I wonder if he has a thing as big as a horse, too. Because, yeah, he's a, he's a stud. I'm not kind of trying to imagine that, but I would probably say so. But you just imagined it. Yeah, I would probably say so. That's just Tony.

He's such a stud muffin. He's like every muffin too, stud muffin. He's a blueberry muffin. He's a cinnamon muffin. He's the regular muffin. What other muffins are there? I like a lemon poppy seed. Yeah, lemon poppy seed.

He's a poppy seed. He, like, he makes those. girls like feel like they're numb. Yeah. Because that's what poppy seeds do, don't they? They give you a high, like morphine high. If you eat a, I think that's where they make heroin from, but I don't think it's from the muffin though. No, it's from the poppy seeds. Yeah, but like, I think there's like a real extensive. That's why he's a lemon poppy seed. Yeah, but he is the extraction. We'll be right back after this quick break. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half-truth is a whole lie.

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Before we wrap up, let's do one final segment. Let's grade. We're going to have one segment that's always a little random at the end of each show. And this one, we're going to talk. former teammates that are also in the media world with us. I like this. I like this.

All right. All right. Let's start off. Let's start off with Devin McCordy. First off. I think I was a first in the media world. You know, I'm competitive.

Roby G. I was a first. Right when I retired from New England, all you idiots were still playing. And I went into the media world just laughing. And actually, I started off in the media world. Furry score I saw it. With the furry squirrel all that.

He's going to. always get his nut in the end zone. He's always going to score. The furry squirrel is always going to come out on top. So thank you, Jules, for starting my media career, my analyst's career, my being on TV career, whatever you call it. Thank you for just being you. Thank you.

And then here you come, you retire, and then I go back to football like an idiot. You're laughing at me now. Did I? I was there when you were playing. No. I was inside the NFL. Yeah. For your last year.

And now who we got? So we're grading our former teammates. We got, we got Coach. We'll start with, we'll start with Devin McCordy. What's, I mean,

Devin, I think his first show wore two Super Bowl ring. Didn't he wear a couple Super Bowl rings on the show? Did he? So what is that? Like a, Come on.

A little corny? That's, is that corny? That's corn ball. Cornball. Cornball. That's cornball. That's cornball.

That's cornball. That's cornball. Oh, man. Oh, he's going to come after us now. He already came after me. Oh, I know. Yeah, he has. I love when he comes after you.

It makes me laugh. I want him to come after me. He's going to definitely take the funniest shot at both of us now. Yeah, but you know what? He tries so hard at it. He's a hard-oh. He's a hard-o. He's a hard-o cornball.

But he's having success. Oh, he's fucking a great. NBC Sunday night football. He kills it. I think he's, he's having success. He's doing. So smart and he knows how to talk very well.

His smile is contagious. It is. Just like bright white smile just goes with complexion. It's like just sticks right out at you. It's beautiful. You know, a guy that gives the freaking post pregame speech is going to be great on TV. Okay.

He gave the goddamn pregame free. I gave no speeches. That's why I'm still struggling, too. Say it. That's why we're struggling. That's why we got a podcast. That's why we're dudes and dudes.

Because dudes and dudes are always struggling in life. dude for real we're freaking spending our last dollars to get to the game and buy a beer yeah yeah but we're always laughing having a good time that's what dudes on dudes is about always laughing dude always matter what the comment is good bad negative positive helpful not helpful i wouldn't say i'm always like that oh i get cranky yeah me too sometimes all right let's go to rob ninkovich he has a podcast he was on tv first off rob ninkovitch was the biggest was when he was on ESPN. It was like he was still under Coach Belichick's

training monologue. Like he was still scared to say anything that he wanted to say. His thoughts, he was scared. And then he was... You can see it in his eyes when he was talking. You can see it in his eyes. And he blames everyone else why he's not there.

They booted his ass. They booted his ass. ESPN booted your ass, Dinko. But we love him and we want him on a pie. We're going to get him on the pile. We want him. He absolutely kill it on your podcast. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think,

was very, very entertaining. He, and he has, he's got low-key, great impressions. And I always say that to him. I'm like, dude, just let yourself go. Like, stop thinking. And now he's taking it to another level. Now saying he hates Matt Jones. He's going to beat him up.

Did he say he's going to fight him like, what? You're going to fight Matt Jones and guys on the Jaguars now. Like, you're going too far now. He doesn't know the in between. Yeah. I love that guy so much. I love Nico. I love Nico.

I think he's good on TV. I think he's good. He is good. James White, he's been the most talkative I've ever seen in the world. James White never said a word in his life. Until I saw, I didn't realize he spoke until I saw him on TV and he's fucking great. Yeah. And you want to know the best thing.

I just saw a clip of him on Instagram this morning. And he goes, whenever it was a college, he had a college tackle. He goes, whenever, whenever, you know, we threw an interception. I was on the field. I like to make the other team pay for it for the interception. and then it freaking shows him making the tackle, laid out the guy and he fumbled the ball on the hit. He goes, he was just waking him up.

Just waking him up. I'm like, commentary by James White. Let's go. Just wait, you got to see it. Just the way he said it. Just waking him up, you know. He's always slight. Just making him pay.

He was always slick with a comment. Yeah, he was. A quiet comment out of left field, you hear James White. What the fuck? Was that James? The guys that never talk, you listen when they talk. And you listen when James White. It's awesome to see him on TV.

Brian Hoy. and David Andrews have started a podcast. That was a little weird when I saw that one. I was like, Hoyer and David Andrews. But I guess, you know, they touch each other a lot.

Oh, yeah, yeah, they did. Center quarterback exchange. They got to, you know, I mean,

as a former quarterback, you have a connection with the guys' balls that you touch all the time. Yeah, that's true. And God forbid it be on like a Saturday practice where no one's wearing jocks

and you guys are doing like walk through and you feel having to lift his ball sack up when you put his hand under. Like there's a connection. So I understand the podcast. I think it's going to be a great podcast. I haven't had a chance to watch you. I haven't had a chance either.

But, you know, Hoyer wasn't really a talkative guy either. I mean, he was, but not too much. Behind the scenes. He was quiet, talkative.

So that's why I was, like, surprised to see him doing the podcast. He always had state of the unions, though. Like, and he'd always, like, be talking in the locker with someone.

You think he wanted to, you know, like, have that feeling like, he's David Andrew's guy and not Tom. like, you know. Yeah, I mean.

Like, I'm David Andrews guy. Like, I get to feel his ball still. Not you, Tom. Because he was, you know, he's never. He loved Tom. Yeah, he loved Tom. Yeah. Am I going too far?

Is this like one of your friends take names of Soff that I'm just going way overboard? Yes. Just coming up with some crazy ship. It's definitely, that's an a soft take. Yeah. All right. Let's go with the, the, not all our takes are going to be good. No.

They're not. dudes and dudes. We got some shitty takes sometimes. we're fucking just dumb dudes. What smart is shit. But not idiot dudes that aren't dumb. Idiot dudes that aren't dumb. What about media,

butterfly, socialite, coach Bill Belichick now. Coach Balochick, man. He's killing the game. I kind of like it because everyone always said throughout our career, hey, you know,

Coach Balochek is different off the field. Like, you know, all his friends say that, all the people that hung out in former players. It's like, you got to see him. off the field. I'm like, he's my freaking coach. I'm never

going to see him. I don't want to see him off the field. The freaking, I see him every day already. And this is a highlight of him off the field. Yeah, and he kind of, he is kind of like a dude's dude a little bit. He is a dude. He has dude characteristics. He didn't as a coach, but he has dude characteristics in ways.

I think he's been good. I honestly, if you want to see the real bill, okay, this is what you do. You put cameras in a dark room and you just get, the shittiest football plays from that week of the NFL, and you just watch them react and grade that film.

That would be real Bill Belichick. That's what I want to see. It would be. I just want to see them just chirping someone and calling someone just the biggest asshole because they're just messing up, play after play after play. And they're not listening to the coaching points. That's, but going off on him.

I want to see that type of Bill Belichick on whatever show he's going on. That's exactly. He's been very knowledgeable, though. He kills it. I mean, he's a fucking, he's an encyclopedia of, he's, he's seen more football than we've played in. Like, he sure has. He's forgotten more football than important games we've played in. Yes.

And according to the roast, he has forgotten all of Tom's touchdown passes and he still remembers yours though, Jules. See, he's a roaster. He's a roaster. How about Tommy? Tommy. Oh, Tom Brady, obviously following the squirrel's footstep in the Great Gronks footstom. stuff. He always wanted to be like us. He always did. He wanted

to be a regular guy, even though he wasn't. Yeah, he's not a regular guy. He's too big time to be a regular guy. No, but I think that was a great starting point for Tom, and we all know Tom's characteristics. He's going to take this game and he's going to learn from it and he's going to do everything he can to make himself better,

which that was such a shitty first game, if you think about it, a blowout for your first game, Cowboys Browns. You thought it was going to be such a close game but you know I'm looking forward to seeing them this week and I'm I'm excited for him man I'm excited to watch him because he's gonna see I want Tom Brady to be the best commentator of all time and you want to know what makes Tom Brady the best of all time is

when people doubt him yeah so Tom you suck bro you suck man yeah but let me tell you he's gonna make me pay for that he's gonna show me up now and that's our he didn't suck though I just wanted He didn't suck. He was really good. Very knowledgeable. We were lucky enough to be around the most knowledgeable coach of all time and most knowledgeable player of all time. 100%.

But we all know. Tom plays better pissed off. So, yeah, Tom, you suck. Yeah, what else? I said he sucked. What else? What else do you? You said he couldn't fill air time.

Just like his ball. He couldn't fill the air. He couldn't fill the air on the deep ball. On the deep ball, he couldn't fill the air either. so he's not a deep hole or air he's just not he just can't fill air we can't even put this out there because he will get so sensitive he's sensitive top he is oh he can give it to you but he can't take it no never that's a wrap all right that's a wrap and and that's a wrap of our first episode how do you think it went i think it was all right you know i feel like we started we started

really hitting the groove on the last segment that's for sure. I feel like my endorphins started flying then. I was really, I'm not lying. I felt like it was a game day. I was really nervous this morning. It was like, what the heck's going on with me? Why is my whole body jittery? I don't like that feeling because like kind of feel stiff. And then it's kind of like any other game in my career. It always happened. And then halfway through after I got smacked in the face a couple of times, I woke up. And I feel like that's exactly what happened. I feel like I performed decently. You did great as well. But I started becoming myself really in the end more. So was it the Anthony Gonzalez's bar room setting talk of him being a stud is which

got your endorphins up? It really is what got my endorphins up. So I feel like I can definitely improve big time. I think we, dude, it's our first episode. This is going to be so fun. It's fun. And I can't wait for our other. If we have fun, people are going to have fun. That's just how, you know, I think it goes. I don't think I had the most fun I could possibly have. But until the end, I think we really had fun that. And that's what we need to be. We got to be loose. I was uptight a little bit at first because just like I said,

feeling it out. Feeling it out. And we want to get good. And we want to get so loose that we're just here chopping it up. And it's like we're seriously just on the couch, just bullshitting, laughing. How loose? So loose. Like as loose as a freaking damage the Dildo did that was thrown on the field at the Buffalo game,

that was thrown at you when you scored the touchdown. That loose. Like as loose as that fan used that thing on whoever he used it on. It wasn't mine. It said Brady's dildo. No, it did say Brady. Like this loose. Now we're talking.

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