Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Stefon Diggs

Episode Date: January 24, 2026

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Hello, hello, all my people, what's up? It's Questlove. Recently, I had the opportunity to sit down with the one and only ASAP Rocky. He reflects on his journey from Harlem Roots to global icon status and discovering the hip-hop origin of his name. The ledge was on the TV. Raqim had the bucket hat can go join him. My post is like, that's Raqim.

That's who you named after. I just, damn, that fucking I swear. But listen to the Questlove show on the Iheart radio app. or wherever you get your podcast. This is Dr. Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom podcast. Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken. But what if the real work isn't physical at all? I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional

pain men were never taught how to name. Part of the way through the Valley of Despair is realizing this has happened, and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward. Our two-part conversation is available now. Listen to the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani.

Let's start with your cat. How is she? She is not with us. Okay, great, great, great way to start. Maybe you will cry. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or girl?

Oh, my God. All the time. That's so funny. I love it. So I try to butcher it up for kids so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up. is basically like Doris Day. Right? No, I turn into Be Arthur.

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draft. Since entering the NFL, he's gone on to record six straight 1,000-yard seasons from 2018 to 2023. earned four Pro Bowl selections and in 2020 he led the NFL in receptions and receiving yards. He's an A-lister off the field as well. Ooh, A-I, speaking facts.

A-lister. Regularly, regularly, that's a tough word for me right now. Regularly. That concussion that I took from that hit, but I still made the comeback. Regularly. What is it?

Regularly? Yeah, regularly. There we go. It is what it is. appearing at fashion shows and high profile celebrity functions. Let's get on Stefan Diggs, ladies and gentlemen. Jeffon Diggs. Jules, what's the first thing you think of when you hear the name, Stefan Diggs?

Oh, what is that? What's that? I don't know. That's a celebration. You did tell me what was the first thing. That's the first thing that I thought. You show me what the person. You did some crazy dance.

Like you closed your nose and you started like waving like there's a stinky fart in front of you. No. Like what is that dance? First thing that comes to mind is, he's, my guy is coming back. Tough. Tough football player. 31 coming off the ACL and he's looking good.

I mean, superhuman damn near because I think he only had like seven months off this ACL before he started playing in games. Yes, and that's why we're talking about him as a comeback player because, yeah, he's had an unbelievable career. But we're talking about him as a comeback player because the last, was it the last two seasons or was it just last season only? Last one season. He was with the Houston Texans. And he was having a pretty solid year. And he blew out his ACL in week 8, October 27th in that game in 2020.

That's deep. And then you wait about a month or two before you even get to surgery because you got to build up your needs. and the strength everything around it. The swelling has to go down. And that's why we're talking about him as comeback player this year. Because on a normal basis, he's not a comeback player because he's a star player. So that's why we're talking about it like that. And to come back, the way that he has come back at this age is what is making this such a phenomenal story.

Like he's running full speed out there. His quickness is still there. He started week one. He was in training camp making plays. He was kind of uncoverable, you know, in situations as well. And that's what is so spectacular about what he's doing because I've torn my ACL before, and it took me about, you know, week five, six to even start feeling right. And I got comeback player of the year, but it took me, you know, onto the Cincinnati game.

Yeah. It really did. That whole, you know, thing with Bill onto Cincinnati. Well, that on to Cincinnati was also, let's get gronk back. on as well. And it really happened like that. So it's just amazing what he has been able to do at

such at this age with a new quarterback, young buck quarterback, new team and be performing at the level that he's performing at right now for the New England Patriots. And you also I also think he's just a swaggy dude. You see him at the Met Gala regularly.

I mean, we've seen the boat parties. These guys got boat parties. He walks in fashion shows. cites Alan Iverson for it that's another cool like he's just a cool guy he's cool guys he's a swagdad and he just had a kid with Cardi I mean you gotta if you have a rapper that's your girlfriend like one of the most famous rappers in the world

you gotta be electric as shit you gotta be electric electric you gotta be like on at all times he's he's on like you gotta be ready to go and he's ready to go I feel like at all times no matter of situations I feel like he's a guy that gets like four or five hours of sleep maximum and it just wakes up and like his body's just twitching and he can run full speed routes and just and just be able to go you know i mean he's probably got top three most famous girlfriend of any patriot probably i mean joselle was damn famous

cardy b's freaking famous well josell was number one by far and then i think it's cardie barty She's number two. So it's not top three. She's top two. Easy. Easy top two. Easy. Yes.

Camille? You mean Camille's pretty famous. Yeah. Camille's up there. Camille's up there. But I mean, you know, Cardi B's number two still. I mean, I love Camille, but I mean. Yeah.

That's like saying, you know, that Drake May is more famous than Tom Brady right now. Yeah. It's, I mean, great, you know, great qualities, but just not more famous than. Brady. No, but, you know, he, I think he gets a bad rap also. He had a bad rap. Remember when, uh, he left Buffalo? Like, you know, I think him being motivated, I think the injuries helped him in this situation to go onto a young football team that needs a thriving leader and, and a leader with attitude. And he's changed that receiver room in New England around tremendously.

Like, you see booty making plays. You see pop making plays. You see all these guys making plays. And he's the guy who's getting paid the most. And he's making a lot of plays. He's got a lot of production this year. He's averaging like six, seven catches a game. You know, he had a revenge game,

week five, first time facing his old team as a Patriot, the Bills. Goes for 10, 146, breakout game. I mean, he's, he's showing a lot. of toughness this year. Mental, physical, toughness and an attitude that I think that has helped the team. Yeah, big time has helped the team. And Vrable, you know, has that mental toughness as well. And then he brings in the guy like Diggs who has the mental toughness and they're bonding together

with it. Like they're not budding heads, it seems like, like that hasn't been the case at all. And if you combine those two, like with a head of coach like that and a star wide receiver who's a veteran who can show and lead the way. I mean, that's a great combo. That's a great formulation. Has been just helping Drake May out tremendously, you know, to help his growth go and to be a reliable receiver, you know, in the slot position or wherever he is on the field. I mean, that's huge, huge, huge push for a guy like Drake May.

And Stefan Diggs, I mean, I would say the best thing for his career recently was actually going to Houston. That frustration in Buffalo, whatever was going on there. When he went to Houston, I feel like it was kind of a learning lesson for him, whatever went down in Buffalo. And now he's bringing the best juice he can possibly be in the best version of Diggs to the New England Patriots. And the Patriots have so far strike gold bringing him in as a free agent and paying him to be the guy that he needs to be. It's crazy that he was a fifth round draft pick. Fifth rounder?

Yeah. He's had some elite years. I mean, he led the league in receptions and yards. I mean, will he go over a thousand? He's going to go over a thousand yards this year, I think. Well, what's he going for right now? He's got 659 yards with seven games to go. Yes.

So, yes, he's going to go over a thousand yards this year. He's going to have another thousand yards season. And I think he's going to get stronger, like to your point earlier. And to when I tore my ACL, I was better at the end of the year than I was at the beginning of the year because you need to get that endurance strength. strength on that knee. You're getting stronger. He's still recovering that fucking thing. Yes. And it's probably, you know, when you get on it, seven, eight months into it. Every, yes, you're out there. And even if you're looking like you're in stride and playing great,

your knee is going to swell up on you no matter what. That's just how it is from month, seven to ten. It swells up on you. And it feels weak kind of sometimes after practice or game of being on it. And it only gets stronger throughout the year. And you only get better. and you only trust in your body more as the year goes on. So he's going to go over a thousand. He's going over a thousand. And he's going to start producing more and more just like he has been. He's been really good in the system for Drake, like safety blanket-wise.

They've been using them in a lot of spots. They put them in, you know, the three spot. They'll put them in the slot. They'll put them outside at X. You know, so he's shown his versatility. I'm sure he likes playing with Coach McDaniels, who's been probably a good addition for that whole offense. Hey, what's up y'all?

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oh NBA player or golfer it's like yo I want to be a rapper or singer yeah like that that's how you view it as like when you're playing in the NFL and like he's dating the one of the you know most famously known rappers uh woman rappers of all time and Cardi B you know So, like, that's cool. Like, that's swaggy in ways. Like, it's cool feeling to have a teammate like that in the locker room. I bet you, you know, guys play ball better when they see Cardi B. They're like, shit, I listen to all her songs.

Like, I got a ball. I got a ball, you know. He's definitely got some street credit in the locker room for sure. How many guys you think are going up to him say, hey, Cardi B. Gotty Girls? Got any girlfriends for me? There's probably a lot of guys. I mean, yeah.

They want to be in that click. especially the young bucks. Young bucks. Yeah. Young bucks. Yeah. Young bucks. Yeah.

Let me give some scraps. Let me give some Cardi B scraps. Oh, is that too much? No, I mean, leftovers. Leftovers. Leftovers. I mean, that's what everyone said to me back in the day. Yo, I, yo, like my friends, oh, let me just get some leftovers, Rob.

I'm like, what does that even mean? They said it to me. I never said that. I'd be like, leftovers. for Thanksgiving? Kind of. It's kind of like Thanksgiving. But Stefan Diggs,

he likes Joshi McDaniels. Have you ever met Diggs, Jules? I have. I bet him recently. Training camp, right? Training camp. We talked over the offense a little bit. He was cool.

Seemed hungry for information. You know, he seemed to be in a good spot mentally. He seemed to be excited to go to work. That was like the cool shit that I came that I crossed me when I met him. He did throw the ball to me. I forgot. You did? Yeah, I was walking out doing Fox show. Yeah. And I was like on air and he like threw the ball to me. Did you catch it? Got it. Got it. You caught it? Caught it. Oh, your hands are still reliable. I'm looking at that pinky finger right now on your right arm and it looks kind of damage and bent and

it's more. The finger is fine. It's the shoulders. Like, oh, your shoulder? My left shoulder. Really? Because that's catching. is the shoulder strength. You know what if you think about it? That's that. It's shoulder strength? I feel, I think it's hand and shoulder. Oh, okay.

How's what I said? I thought hand. Hand and shoulder. It's all connected. Well, I think that is when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you're, you're, you know, I don't know. And it's, like, you can always, like, you can always tell who has a bum shoulder on sometimes how guys catch balls. If they go like this, it's because they don't want to put their weak shoulder. If it's hurt on top.

You know, I don't know. Catching Clinic by Jules. No. Coming to you. Catching Clinic 101 by the Edelnut. And on top of the ACL coming back, he's also been playing with a broken finger the last few weeks. I mean, you got to have a different mentality to be a wide receiver. I mean, yeah, you know, as a lineman broken finger, you just cast it up.

But like, you got to use that finger. And him going out there with the broken finger and still making all the catches and plays, I mean, that that's mental toughness right there. And that's what Vrable talked. about, you know, they got to be a mental, tough team. And, uh, what is, you know, so. But now, but here we go. But now we got some facts what Drake May said on Diggs playing, you know, through his injuries that Steph's probably dramatic.

Every time he gets hit, he lies on the ground. It acts like he just got hit by an 18 wheeler or something. In a jokingly. You got to love that. You, that's the connection that you want to see between a quarterback and wide receiver where you can just throw dig. Get it? Diggs. Yeah, at other players on your team.

It kind of builds that connection and chemistry even more. Who are the most dramatic guys in our locker room? I would say Martellus Bennett, maybe. I would say Ninko. Yeah, oh, Nenko. Niko. No, Marty B at beginning of practices, though. Remember?

Yeah, individual drill. Ah! I think he's out for a year. Yeah, playing in the game, goes in the locker room, goes to get some treatment. I'm like, this guy's a genius. I got to take some notes. Like that's how you get off practice that day. Oh, my knee!

Josh McDaniels was like, Josh McDaniels at first always fell for it. And then like week eight, he's like, all right, just go. You don't want to be out of here. Just go get some treatment.

But then with ball in the game. Yeah. Nico, though, Nico was so dramatic. Oh, my God. I remember one time. That his life is dramatic. He took too much,

I know explode at his eye. And this was like, his eye was twitching. And he looks, he's like, I think I'm having a stroke. I'm thinking I'm having a stroke I'm like bro you ain't brusky

you ain't have a stroke and he's like no I'm having a stroke and there's another time there's another time he came off the field my ACL's gone Jim it's gone it's gone Jim looks he goes no it's there it's there Nico goes no I swear

try it one more time he's like nah Nico you're good he goes oh I thought it was gone man I just reminded me last time that guy was like WebMD all the time on WebMD all the time looking at shit like man i can't get into some of the stories oh i can't yeah i know you can't you can't i know what you're talking about you remember i know the web one oh my yeah he's dramatic

he's more dramatic than dramatic all right let's get on to what kind of dude stephan digs is in the locker room all right is he a stud is he a freak is he a dog oh is he's a dog is he's Is he a whiz or is he a dude's dude? I mean, I mean, Jules, come on now. I think this one's pretty easy. He brings, you know, some studly factors to the table because of his athleticism and his quickness. And his football IQ, you've got to be a smart football player

in order, you know, to be able to ball and have, you know, the lead the league and receptions and yards. We know our guys are freak off the field. Yeah, freak off the field. No doubt about that. Hey, no doubt. You got to be a freak if you're dating Cardi B. I mean, you listen to her songs.

Damn. Like, we're allowed to say that because her songs, oh, they are crazy. They make you freaky. Just listen to them. He's got a little whiz, but I think it's easy. It is easy. I mean, we're going to stamp it right now. One, two, three.

Dog. Because the segment is presented by dude wipes, what was Stefan Diggs? Cleanest moment? Well, his cleanest moment is also kind of his most doggly moment as well. They kind of go together. And I'm going to say it's the Minneapolis miracle. when they were facing the Saints in the playoffs.

Like what was it? Like no time left on the clock and who threw it up to him? Kirk Cousins. Was it Kirk Cousins? No, it was Case Keenum. Case Keenom. But where was Kirk Cousins? Was he injured that year?

I thought he was on Minneapolis this year. I think he got hurt that year. Was he still on the, was he still on Washington? Washington. Wow, this is a throwback because this was 2018. So this was the 2018 NFC division round and he made that clean catch. He jumped off in the.

the air high pointing it. He came down nice and clean like the dude wipes, landed on his feet and then just cleanly ran right into the end zone to what? Was it the final seconds? Yeah. Did the clock run out? Was it a walkoff? Was it a walkoff? It was a walkoff. He turned a 27 reception catch into a 61 yard TD. And it was, oh, it was the first walkoff touchdown in playoff history as well. Minnesota won 29 the 24. that game. Now, I remember watch, I think we were, what, what time was this? But it was, um, 2008. We were in the playoffs.

Yeah, we were in the playoffs. Yeah, we were in the playoffs. And I remember, you know, sometimes before games in the playoffs, you'd go in the equipment room and they'd have, to get a peek on what's going out. On the other games. Yeah. I think I remember seeing this. Yes. When I went in to go get my like socks or something, because sometimes you'd always see the guys in there, see what other games are doing. And they walk. off with this. I was like, holy shit. Yes. I mean, that was a clean moment in his career. I would say

the cleanest moment that the most moment that defines Stefan Diggs's playing career is definitely the Minneapolis miracle. But like, you got to be a dog to be able to pull that off too. Like, how do you stay up? Like, the way he kept his balance, he went up high point. His legs were almost cut off, you know, cut off from underneath when he was up in the air. They kind of were, but he stumble bummed it. Like, you just said. said put his hand down kind of retained himself and then ran into the end zone nice and cleanly so this dude's a dog and then on top of it just had a baby with cardi b and like the baby Thursday night football game was born and he's tossing footballs to cheerleaders you got to be a dog you got to be

you got to be a dog to do that love stephan digs love it electric electric as can be hello hello all my people what's up it's quest love recently i had the opportunity to sit down with the one and only ASAP Rocky. He reflects on his journey from Harlem Roots to global icon status and discovering the hip-hop origin of his name. The ledge was on the TV.

Raq Kim had the bucket hat can go join on. Pops. Like, that's Raq Kim. That's who you named after. I just like, damn, that fucking I swear. But listen to the Questlove show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is Dr. Jesse Mill.

host of the Mailroom podcast. Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken? But what if the real work isn't physical at all? I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name. Part of the way through the Valley of Despair is realizing this has happened, and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward. Our two-part conversation is available now. Listen to the Mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your favorite shows. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nangiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she? She is not with us.

She. Great, great way to start. Maybe you will cry. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or girl? Oh my God. All the time.

That's so funny. I love it. So I try to butcher it up for kids so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like Doris Day. Right? No, I turn into Be Arthur. Listen, to these. episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

A new year doesn't ask us to become someone new. It invites us back home to ourselves. I'm Mike Delarocha, a host of Sacred Lessons, a space for men to pause, reflect, and heal. This year, we're talking honestly about mental health, relationships, and the patterns we're ready to release. If you're looking for clarity, connection, and healthier ways to show up in your life, Sacred Lessons is here for you. Listen to Sacred Lessons with Mike Dellerooch on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.