Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Summer and Voicemails

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Gronk & Jules are hitting the hotline! We're talking our favorite summer blockbuster movies, our favorite dudes to party with, pickle ball, grass vs. turf, and a whole lot more. We wrap up with some desert island talk in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, it's like castaway. Full castaway vibes. Probably have tigers, some kind of. a predator on there. They see something big. They're going after that. I can hide in like little nooks and caves.

You couldn't even get in a cave because your shoulders are 39 inches wide. I'm a cave man. Camille complains 24-7 that I eat like a caveman every time I sit down for dinner. I don't use a fork. I don't use a spoon. I don't use a knife. I use my hands only. You're a caveman in how you act.

Cave men were really like three foot two. You are like a giant. You're Andre the giant. And you climb trees? I can climb trees in that situation. Can you start a fire? I can start a fire. I can start a fire.

I'll be smashing those sticks together. I'll start the shit out of fire. I'll be rubbing those sticks together. I'll start the shit out of a fire. Whoever starts fire first wins. Welcome to dudes on dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Grankowski.

And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And today, we're hitting the hotline. What are we talking about today? Who's the better pickleball player between you and I, Jules? Rob could just play that net. You were acting like an absolute maniac out there on the pickleball court. I'm a sweater.

Maybe a replacement for Super Bowl rings. Yeah, the ring is the tradition. I'm a ring guy. A blinged out watch, I don't think everyone would be on the same. page. And is turf better than natural grass? We'll debate it. I always love that Florida grass, that Bermuda. It's better for your body,

too. And you don't get that turf burn on some nice grass. And we wrap it up with the chillest color and the chill is dude of the week presented by Cora's Life. Stick around to the end. Let's go. Dudes on dudes is a production of I-Heart Radio. Robbie, where you at? Joe's what's up, man? I'm

right here in my podcast office here in Tampa Bay, Florida. I'm just relaxing. I enjoyed the sun earlier. What's super cool as well is that my pool is 102 degrees without me even heating it up. So I was just in it getting a nice swim. It felt like bath water. It was just delicious, man. So I just been enjoying my time. A hundred and two, literally. It's literally a hundred and two degrees. It felt. I'm telling you, like I've been in hot tubs before. And I jumped. Okay, maybe like 99 degrees because when it's like a hundred two. 99 is still freaking hot. At least 99.

I'm talking, okay, I have a cold tub as well. And you know when you go from a cold tub into a hot tub and you get those chills, because like the blood is flowing and like you can feel the tingles while I was in my cold tub and I jumped right into the pool after and I was getting all those tingles. And you only get those tingles when the hot tub is at least a hundred something degrees. and I was getting those tingles in the pool. So I'm talking at least 99 degrees, and it felt so good because it's a saltwater pool as well.

And, you know, it's just healing me, you know? I like to do those tricks. But the best part about what I've been doing, actually, I just got here the other day. I was in Buffalo, New York, where I grew up, my hometown, and I got to go and see my brothers, kids, play all their sports games. And I got to see one of them play hockey, baseball,

flag football as well. I got to see the other one play football, flag football and baseball. And then I got to see his daughter play a softball game. And let me tell you, it was one of the best weekends I've ever had in Buffalo. It was just so cool to see them ball out. They were hitting doubles.

They were making plays in the infield. Like, I'm talking, mossing people on the football field as well. My oldest nephew, he looked like myself as well, going up and high pointing, that football. Jay shot out to Jay's high pointing it over the D.Bs and bringing it down and not letting

anyone grab his flag. It kind of looked like me just barreling through all the defenders and scoring a touchdown. I was super proud of him, man. And you're going to be proud of Lily, obviously, when she gets to that stage and she's just dominating folks out there, just like my brother's kids are. What do they call you? They call you Uncle Rob? Yeah, Uncle Rob.

Mm-hmm. Like Uncle Buck? Uncle Rob. Just Uncle Rob. I like it, man. That's got to be so fun. Sounds smooth. Yeah, it's a good feeling.

They have a lot of, what do they have? Four kids? Three? Yeah, my brother, Dan, has five kids. Five kids. Chris has four kids and he's in Dallas. And Dallas has great facilities, great sports down there, great leagues. And he just actually, he just texted me in a group chat with my family that my brother,

Chris actually, his kid just won the Little League World Series, I guess, for the World Series that it's called down there in the Texas world. And his kid is six years old. I mean, six or eight years old. He's got too many as well. So I'm not sure what one won the World Series, but I think it was the six year old. So congratulations to him.

But there's one thing I want to talk about that I wish we had growing up as kids, Jules. What do you want? What is it? It's in the summer Olympics for the first time in 2020, is flag football, man. football. I'm telling you, these kids are learning the game of football at such a young age to possibly a pedigree that we have never learned the game of football at that age. The skill sets that they're learning, you know, out there just playing flag football without the

physical part is just amazing for their development. So when they start in the future, I'm telling you, you've got to be able to, you know, create space still so you can go out out there and beat your defender because there's playing zone coverage. They're also playing man coverage out there on the defensive side of the ball. So you're seeing it all. And then also to be able to juke defenders

and not get your flag, you know, pulled from you. It's great development and it's so fun too. And I wish we had it. Dude, it's the fastest growing girls sport in the world, I think. It's getting huge. I bought a

I bought a flag football size for Lily's age and we've been throwing it around. It's been fun. But to what you said, I agree the spatial recognition you get from flag football will help a lot of these skill players when they transition into tackle football. Now, like being able to decipher if it's man or zone, that's pretty much seven on seven. That's pretty much what flag football is. All you're doing is identifying who's trying to be on you, what zone it is, and finding those little soft spots. So I think that'll help these kids transition, which we've seen receivers transition at a record rate these last six, seven years, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, young receivers

come in right away and understand football and make huge impacts to their team. And I think that flag football and all these seven-on-seven camps are, a huge reason for that, you know, and the information being able to, like, study what pro football is now. But, like, going back to flag football, I'm so excited for this. Should we try to, like, get back in shape and play? I mean, they were working out there, and it's quick, you know, you don't have that much time in between each plays. You've got to be in top shape. And, Jules, we've been out of the game for quite some time now, man, a couple years. So pump the brakes.

I like where your head's at, though, but we're going to be big fans, and we're going to be obviously following flag football in the 2008 Olympics. And maybe the closest thing we can possibly do is coach, I would say. I don't know, man. It's been like real, it's been real heady over the flag football talk with the flag football community, you know, being combined with some of the NFL guys because the owners passed it. and the NFL guys are like automatically thinking they're getting on the team. The flag football guy's like,

this is a different sport. Fuck that, man. We're better at flag. Like, I don't know if I have time for all. There's so much conflict. I'm just chilling on this one.

I'm going to watch this like a, and just be a fan and root for America. Mm-hmm. There we go. Well, we're taking it home. I'm already calling it. We're going to win the gold in flag football in 2020.

If we don't win the fucking goal, we got a problem. It would be a shame. It would be a shame. It would. it would be bad. But I just hope we don't, I hope we don't go into this because these other countries,

they've been playing this shit for like 15, 16 years. Like, they love this stuff because I went to Israel and I went to the craft stadium and visited like their facility. And they're in this World League. Like they have 11 on 11 tackle. But a lot of it is flag football. And like they develop the kids in flag and bring them to tackle. But like there's a World League that's been playing world flag football for a

while and I'm just afraid if you know we go in there with our NFL guys we a it's a different game like you know we may be way more athletic and stuff but you know like we can't you can't flag guard what are the rules of the line of scrimmage can you can you hold like what are the rule basis for this thing like so I don't want to go in this thing like oh we we know football we're automatically going to win gold look this is a different game this a different game you know and these guys been playing. I mean, I get athlete on athlete. We should be fucking light years ahead. But we don't know. I don't know if the rules cater to like people that aren't athletic.

We're still going to win the gold. We're too good. We're too good in America. What about Brad? And I was just about to change the page. I know what you're going to talk about. Brad Marchand? Yes. Brad Marchand. You see a partying right now? I haven't seen him partying, but I can just imagine what he's doing.

I remember when he won the cup in 2011 in Boston, and they were partying their face off up there. He was partying his face off. But what I did see, Jules, is that they dented the Stanley Cup like we dented the Lombardi Trophy. I know. The Florida Panthers took a page out of our playbook, Jules. Should we bill them? I mean, we should definitely have our IP lawyer.

contact their IP lawyer for the image that they posted because it could be IP infringement to the original dent. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Mm-hmm. So many lawyers these days. We can find something. Congratulations to the Florida Panthers. I was kind of cheering for the Edmonton Oilers.

Just for one reason, I really love, you know, Connor McDavid. I love his game. I love his skill set. I love what he does out there out on the ice. It must hurt to go back to back to the Stanley Cup and lose both. times to the same team. And also shout out to the state of Florida. Fucking Florida.

You know, and the hockey world. The last six years in a row, there has been a Florida team representing the Stanley Cup playoffs. Obviously, 2020, 21, 22 was the Tampa Bay Lightning. Then 23, 24, 25 was the Florida Panthers. They each lost one time as well. But a huge shout out to them. And it's tough.

It's tough, you know, for Canada right now in the NHL world, getting back to back to the cup for the Oilers and losing both times. And Canada hasn't won in quite some time, you know, the Stanley Cup. And I can tell you this. So the Florida Panthers ain't that great of a community to celebrate with because it's not really a hockey town. It's got to be more now, though. Maybe they've made themselves into a hockey town. You win like this? Mm-hmm.

I mean, you think about like the L.A. Kings before they had the great one. They weren't like a really big hockey community in a warm area. Now like I walk around L.A. and people love the Kings. This is two Stanley Cubs back to back. I mean, these people, they probably love hockey. I mean, Florida, it's freaking crazy. It's an oxymoron. The warmest place is holding the cold sport title a lot of the time.

it's nuts how is it do people like do people like hockey down there they love hockey here in Tampa bay I can tell you that but over there you know on the other side of the state there's so much going on going on in southern Florida I mean there's so much more to do and the thing about being in Florida as well as you go to Florida to be outside to do activities outside yes they're bringing so much awareness down there you know the Florida Panthers you know to that organization and it's caught on big time. But it's not like what it would be if the Edmonton Oilers won the cup. I'm talking everyone in that area would be at the parade.

Does this have to do with taxes? Because why the hell is how are all the most untraditional organizations in like one of the most like gung ho, Canada, cold sports? how the fuck is the Florida teams winning? Is it because these guys want to go down there and get no tax? Because you go to Canada, they're taking three quarters of your money. You go to some of the states here. They're taking half. Is that the reason?

It's crazy to me. Like how are the Florida teams winning in hockey? Mm-hmm. Well, that's a big topic. That's a big topic that's up for discussion, actually, in the NHL right now. And I saw Biz Nasty talking about it. He kind of got shamed about it by saying that's why. these Florida teams are winning.

But it's the same thing in the NFL world. You can go to a, you know, a team that has zero percent state tax. And I don't think that's a game changer. I think if you put a list, you know, of the pros and cons of why you're choosing a team, I just think it's a pro. But I don't think it's the necessary factor of why these teams are good and why players would go to this organization. It's a big pro.

That's a pro. Quality of life is probably a huge pro. That's a pro. The wife's happy. The kids get to go to freaking day camp outside and play in the water. I mean, those are two huge pros for like these hockey guys that are like family type guys. You know, the happy wife, happy life, happy life mentality. That's what kind of guys they are.

I'm sure they like keeping that check too. They don't get the bigger contracts like, you know, football, basketball, baseball. They still have huge contracts. But I mean, you just don't know. it makes me scratch my head. It's like, how the hell do we not have, Canada hasn't won a goddamn cup in years, like 30, 40 years? The main factor is though why these teams are winning down here in Florida is because

the Florida Panthers and the Tampa Bay Lightning, they have great quality guys running the organization from top the bottom. Sean Thornton. John Thornton. Down there on the other side of Florida, what would we say? That's the East Coast of Florida running the Florida Panthers. I play pickleball with the GMs here in Tampa Bay, and they're on top of their game, man.

They're sharp. They know what they're doing. We talk ball. We talk football. We talk hockey. And they get it, you know? And they're running the organization, the way the organization needs to be run. That's one of the main reasons why these teams are good.

So it's got to be that. They hired the right people. Mm-hmm. I mean, if you want to, like, look, they hired the right people to bring in the right people, the right guys, the right team, the right trainers, the right everything. That is, that's huge. So you got to tip your cap to both of those owners. Are they new owners? The Tampa Bay Lightning has been very stable, you know, with their owners.

I don't know about the Florida Panthers. I don't know where they're at. I don't know if the team was sold recently or not. I just know that the Florida Panthers are just dominating left and running. And that our boy, Thority is down there running the organization and doing whatever he's doing to help out. Because he went down there when they were absolute trash. And now he flipped the script.

And they've just been dominating over the last four years. GM, right? No other. He's something. I know Sean Thornton. He's something. He's something important over there. He is.

How about the Oklahoma City Thunder? Are they, they're going to knock this down? Is it nailing the coffin? Is it over? I think it's over. I thought it was over even after the first game when the Indiana Pacers won. I mean, they're just absolutely dominating.

That first game, the Pacers won. They finally took the lead with 0.3 seconds left with the hell Burton shot, you know, with the most clutch player that I've ever seen in NBA playoffs history, which has just been absurd. He's been like 12 or 14 or something with the final shot and hitting it. But I just knew the Oklahoma City Thunder, they're just too good. They're well-rounded overall. And I just don't see the Pacers winning the next two.

They kind of remind me, like this style basketball reminds me a lot of our style football. Why is that? Because everyone says it's not sexy, but it's effective as fuck. And they still have a, they got a superstar and they got a bunch of good players. They don't have, you know, they don't have the big five or big three. But they got a bunch of upcoming guys. that they've developed over their years and drafted, and they found the one guy that makes it all run,

who's a great quarterback. You know what I mean? And everyone kind of bags on him for his game because he's not always flashy, but he's got really good mid-rank, like the mid-rary, you know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. They also play great defense. Great defense.

They got a lot of guys doing their job, doing what the coach, you know, has schemed up, running the plays that they need to run. It does kind of remind me of us. on the New England Patriots. And they're about to go on a dynasty run. You know what I mean? It's like no one liked watching San Antonio win,

but they were effective and efficient and knew what to do to win games. And that's what you see with O KC. I mean, they play, they're just like everyone's good. Everyone plays hard. Fucking their leader is a great, like their leader,

PSG or SGA or whatever is, my guy for Montreal. SGA. Like how he handles the media, man. I love how he handles the media. He's a professional. He is. He's a pro.

He knows what he's there for. He's a pro. Smooth. He's got his swag, but he lets his play do the talk. He doesn't let, nor is the noise about how he plays, and he'll still get his fouls

and get on that free throw. Like, he don't care. He's on V-B-B-B-B. for a reason. I love how he attacks the hoop as well. He has no fear. He just goes in. If he gets leveled,

he gets leveled. And the way that he can balance, like when he's off balance and to be able to get the shot off, his body can be twisted, and he still gets it off. That just shows how stable he is as an athlete. And he still drains these incredible shots,

even when he's getting foul or he has to, you know, do a maneuver. It's just incredible. He's a great player to watch, man. I'm a big fan. And I really never seen him play because he's, on Oklahoma City Thunder. And now I'm watching the finals.

And both these teams, I didn't watch any of these teams. You got a fan right here now. I mean, Indiana's been playing fucking good too. Like Halliburton, is he banged, he's a little banged up right now, right? He got an ankle. But like you rattled off his stat, 12 or 14 and last shots are like, and his dad with the whole storyline of his dad getting in what's his name's face? Like he's backed that shit up.

He's talked shit. He backed it up with his play. You know, I just feel like they need a. other guy. They need one more guy. Because if he doesn't score a lot, Siakum, yeah, Seacom's got to get hot with Toronto. I like Seacom can get hot. You can. If the Pacers want any chance to win the next two games,

Siacom has to be hot for eight quarters straight. Got to. You've been hooping it all lately, getting your little shot to? Nah, Jules. I haven't been, man. And I miss it. I love hooping. It makes me feel good. It takes away my stress. It makes me feel jacked as well. It just brings your athleticism out. The way you can just run up and down the court just feels amazing.

Like it's one of the best workouts you can do. And I miss playing. I practiced a lot a couple years ago with a guy up in Rhode Island, you know, who's actually an assistant coach for the Providence Friars on the basketball squad there. So shout out to get right. But I haven't played lately, man. I got to get back on the court. With that being said, Jules, let's get to the voicemails.

Let's get to the voicemails. Let's hit. Let's get to the voicemails. Again, that number is 561-203-5789. Voicemails. Hey, Jules. Hey, Gronk. This is Renee from Augusta Maine.

As you guys know, summer is approaching. And I was just wondering, what is your guys' go-to or favorite summer movie? Mine, I would say, is Jaws. my family and I, we watch it pretty much every day from Memorial Day to Labor Day. I know that's a lot, but we just love that movie so much. So what's your guys' favorite summer movie? Love the podcast, keep it up.

Well, Renee, from Augusta, Maine. I don't know if you've been on the internet lately. There's been 30-foot Great White Sharks, literally probably 70 miles away from you. Probably wouldn't want to watch the movie that gives me PTSD about going into any big body of water. But one of my favorite movie flicks of the summer, Roberto, right off the don't. Let's hear it.

Easy. Independence Day, dog. Independence Day. Will Smith. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Fucking knocking out the alien. Nah, nah, nah. We all came together to defeat the aliens.

We all need to, maybe we need to be attacked by aliens so we all can come. together as a world. Hey, hey, jewels for president. Let the aliens in. We'll all come together. Please know. I would say my favorite, my favorite summer flick. It's obvious, you know.

I'm going to go with Happy Gilmore. It's my favorite movie of all time. And why I'm going to pick Happy Gilmore as well is because Happy Gilmore 2 is coming out in July. So can't wait to see it. And I already told my boys from back home, you know, in Buffalo that I'm not watching Happy Gilmore 2 unless if I'm with Nasty Nate Dog. And you know who Nasty Nate Dog is. Nate Dog got again.

Nasty Nate Dog and I have watched Happy Gilmore growing up religiously. So we made a promise we watching Happy Gilmore 2 together when it comes out and the next time I'm in Buffalo. Let's go. Good question. Hey, what up, dude? This is Jordan from Kansas City. I wanted to know who was your guy's favorite people to party with whenever you guys were players and stuff and you guys were going out. Who were the best people that were best times?

Well, also, before we get started, Renee, I got something for you. Shoot a. I love doing that as well whenever I'm out on the golf course and I drain a shot. Shoot a. Pum, boom, boom, boom. All right. Back to Jordan. All right, Jordan.

You're from Kansas City. You want to know who our favorite people to party with when. whenever we were players and who to go out with while I'm sitting and doing this podcast with one of my favorites, Jules, Danny Amandola was great, love going out with Chandler Jones, aka Black Ronk. He just had, you know, smoothness in his game. Chan was just so fun. He was down just to have a good time at any time and bust a dance move out wherever we were. Uh, or what about shame. Oh, Oriflo. What about Shane Verne, Jules? Shaney.

Dane Fletcher was always young. Ready to rock and roll. When we were young, it was, those were the Nico Kudavides, just kind of slither in the background. Tully Bannacane. Oh.

Tully. He was the first one to friggin. He was the first one ever bring me out. Splash. Shout out. Shout out to splash. South Station. That was my first nightclub slash bar that I've hit that when I got into the city of

Boston. And, Jules, you were there that night. So shout out. That's the infamous shrimp that you stole from someone else's bladder while they walked by. This lady goes like this and Rob's so tall. He just goes, oh, thank you. She didn't even notice and then delivered the shrimp to the other table and they didn't notice either. I got skills like that.

What's the next question? I think the 2016 Cowboys is a top 10 team of all time. What? The 2016 Cowboys? I mean, who was their quarterback in 2016? We beat the breaks off them. That was the first year. That was when Romo got hurt.

It was their backup. And then Dak came in. This guy's smoking. He's smoking something. What was their record that year? Top 10. They were 13 and 3. All time.

Didn't we go into, do we play them this year? Or was that 15 when Tony was hurt? And then they drafted Dak that off season thinking Tony was going to come back. I don't think you can make it back. Best team of all time? Absolutely not. A top team. Top 10. Not even close. Top 10 team of all time.

Not even close. Yeah, I agree. I mean, 133 is a good team in the regular team. You can knock down the first round. Probably a top five team for that year. But nah, I disagree with this guy. I disagree. Next question. Hey, dudes.

Marcos from Texas. Big, big fan. I'm going to make it quick. If you guys had to build an offense of the Patriots, past players, U.JOLs, Grand, Tony Michelle, Randy Moss, and you had to choose a quarterback, but it can't be Brady, receiver, running back, et cetera. I would you guys go, did. Thank you. We're just picking the quarterback?

Yeah, we're just picking the quarterback. And can't be Brady? Cannot be Tommy. It can be any other quarterback out there. It doesn't have to be a quarterback that played for the New England Patriots in the past. as well. I was going to go, I was thinking already in my mind, because I think it would be super cool to play with him. You know, I love his style. I love his game. It reminds me of myself at the quarterback position. But Josh Allen, you know, that was a no-brainer for me. That was the

first quarterback that popped up in my head. I would not mind having Josh Allen with that our offense. Because look, the proofs in the pudding. He loved throwing to Colby'sley. He loves throwing to, what's our new guy? I like Shakir. He likes throwing to Shakir. He likes throwing to slots and he likes throwing a tight end. Well, he's never had a tight end like you. So I would love Josh Allen, but I would love, I'd love to have Burrow.

Oh, Joey B. Someone in the pocket. You know he could talk, I mean. I can't argue with that choice. I think Joe Burrow, I mean, you would love to have Mahomes, but I don't, my home, our, our, our is a little different. There's a little more dropback pass. I don't know.

I mean, my home's pretty good too, but I think Burrow, I don't want someone running as much as Mahomes on those third downs. I want them throwing because I want those third downs. You got to convert third downs to get touchdowns, and I like them third downs, so Gromx scored touchdown.

Burrow and Allen, two choices you can't argue with. I'll take either or. That's a good question. Hey, Gronk and Jules. I was wondering, have any of you guys ever shit yourself during a game? Thank you. Oh, shit. I have.

Oh, shit. That's all I got to say. Oh, shit. Larry is a shit on the sideline once. Shout out Paul Pierce, because I think he may have shit. He technically said he did not shit his pants. This is the closest I've ever came to shitting in my pants while playing in a football game. I've had to take plenty of shits before while playing the game,

but that's when you go underneath the tunnel and you go inside real quick and you hit that bathroom that's super close. You know what I'm talking about in the tunnel? And then I just pulled down my pants really quick and just take the quickest dump and have the worst wipe ever and wash my hands real quick. I probably still have poop all over my hands and I put my hand back in the glove and I still catch the ball even with poopy hands. But that's probably the closest I ever got.

What I have, I have after games. I have ripped huge farts while. playing, you know, in games. And then after I've got that, really, really juicy. And then I pulled out my trousers and I'm like, oh, shit, I got some serious, serious poop stains on my trousers right now. So that's the closest. Dust butter, girl.

That's the closest I've ever been the shitting my pants in the game. I've never shit my pants. I don't think I did. But I remember a kid shit in his pants and Pop Warner once. You would think by the time we got to the league, we knew the pre the pregame, the pregame routine on not to shit your pants and dial in your, I shit like clockwork the same time every day. Two shits before 10 o'clock. And why it's really hard to shit your pants during a game is because your nerves are flowing so hard throughout your body in the pregame is that you basically release everything that's loose in your body before the game starts because of the nerves. probably take two to three extra dumps just because of the nerves.

I've seen so many other players too while I'm going. They're running to the bathroom and they just pull down their pants so quick and it all just comes out and it's just not a normal dump. It's called nerve dumped. And it just flies out of you. And the locker room shitting's like a yawn. Or it's kind of like, you know, when women are all living in the same house, their periods.

Don't they sink up? they sync up like our shitting schedules would all shit up so like you would go and it's crazy 10 o'clock before a game there's 15 stalls 15 guys

battle shits in the bathroom left and right conversations you hear guys fucking talking to their wife yelling at their kid from the phone there's been like the conversations in the shit room it's fucking disgusting

It's shitty. But there's a door open, there's a door open dump policy. It's shitty, Jules. Those conversations are shitty. All right, next question. This is gross. Let's get on to the next question.

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Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to heavyweight on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, what's the pet peeve you have with either a teammate, an opponent, on the field or off the field, practice, or game? What the pet peeve you have? Pet peeve. I would say I love when my teammates, you know, blast music in the locker room. But the biggest pet peeve I have is when it's like music that doesn't relate to anyone else. There's a lot of music out there that relates to the majority of the locker room.

room. You can hit 80% of the guys in the locker room, you know, with the tunes that you're playing. But when someone puts on music that's hardcore of a, of a, you know, genre, it doesn't go well and it doesn't flow well. And that's kind of a pet peeve for myself, but I never really say anything. That's when you just put the headphones on or you just go out to practice and listen to the music out there. Yeah. My biggest pet peeve pregame is when people are trying to fucking talk to me. other teams trying to come up and fucking buddy buddy key key with me nah dog nah dog talk to me after the game

talk to me after the way with you saying that this just you know clicked what about a coach coming up to you to give you a pointer that he's already given you 15 times that week when you're trying to prepare for the game you're doing your thing and they come up to you again to give you that pointer you just want to look at him back i know coach i know See, me and Chadio, Chattio knew when he, he, he, Chad, that was Chattio's superpower as a coach. He knew, I like to be reiterated certain coaching points, certain things throughout practice right before the game.

And Chattio knew when, and knew when not to, because he could read my body language on how I was going into a game. If I needed a little pump, you know, hey, if he knew what to do. So I, I didn't really mind that. I just, or a lot of the times, like, the pet peeve, you know when you're the last guy to catch the punt. Like, I would always catch the last punt plus to the plus the negative 50 punt. It was like the last punt and they would kick it into the other team's side, you know? From the end zone, we would do the field goal, or a punt, and then you do the field goal, field, and then we'd end go in the locker room. Well, I'd be the last guy.

sometimes my pet pee was on our fucking punter who's trying to fucking be fucking Richard Cannon Arm Leg guy and show the whole stadium that he can punt it 80 yards and I got to fucking navigate through a goddamn DB dro by the goddamn Steelers. I'm going into uncharted territory behind enemy lines getting shit talked because we're over here trying to show off our leg. can't just do a nice Aussie punt, keep me in the middle. Like, we almost got in fights. We had to dial that back.

That was a huge pet peeve because I'm already too fired up before a game. I don't need any more. I'm getting fired up right now, getting pregame high. You were always fired up. And going back to that coaching point, I can tell you this, though. I never messed up that coaching point out on the field. Even though I would be aggravated that, I had to hear that coaching point one more time in the locker room.

right before the game. But it got you to never mess up that play. So that's a good thing right there. That's a good thing. That's a pet peeve that that's a positive pet peeve. Another pet peeve would be when we'd have a walkthrough for the walkthrough for the walkthrough. Oh, that drove me freaking crazy. We will walk through, which looking back, you know, not being a player anymore, it made us really good.

We needed it. but when you have to walk through the same fucking play that you've been doing for, you know, it's for not just for us, but it was for all of us to have the confidence in everyone to see everyone do it. You know, you get repetitive when you're doing the same thing. I liked it a little bit, but it was also like it takes the breath out of you after doing it five times in a row. You know, dudes, who's a better pickle ball player? Jules, Robbie.

Oh. I think Rob. Rob's pretty good. And he's got a pickleball coach. Like, we went to the pickleball thing. He got, he had coach working with me

prehand that he's worked with. So, and he's got length. And Rob, Rob's got, Rob could just play that net. I would just say I'm better by default just because I'm so lanky.

Like, it's hard to hit the ball over my head. It's hard to hit the ball, you know, to my left or right without me getting it. But Jules is way quicker. than myself. So we're actually a good tandem. We might have to play. But here's the problem is that we don't really truly know who's better because we barely play. So like in order to truly know who's

better, we would both have to train for like two weeks and then have a one versus one battle. And that would kind of determine it. But when you barely play and you play sporadically once every year and you can't really determine who's better because you get into Grong. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'll take it. I'm better. I like that. Jules. you. What we got? Buraz, this is Aaron from Providence. I had a smashing good time. I had Gromk's typical ball for a purpose, a great purpose.

Grank, of course, smashing. Great to meet you, Kyler. I got to shake hands with Kyle. Oh, yeah. And Julian, you are one sweaty fellow. I keep rocking gold. Y'all get it in today. I'm a sweater.

always have been why do you think I wore two pairs of gloves in the game I'd sweat right through those bitches the reason why you're a sweaty fellow is because you were going well you were acting like an absolute maniac out there on the pickleball core and warm-ups all the way to the first game you didn't stop you were like energize your buddy and even when the ball wasn't hit to you you were moving and running around in circles and keeping your feet chopping mental rep so mental rep What if it got through you? I'm there to back you up.

It's true. Like a hard 90 in baseball. Okay? Like when coach Nicolopolis used to say he was my old coach in high school. I used to have to throw the wide route. It was like 1930s football. Anytime a quarterback used to throw a wide route, he had to run to the flat just in case, just in case it was picked off.

So every time I threw the ball to the flat, I'd have to chase the ball. Just in case it was a shitty throw. I undercut and picked it off so I can tackle them. So, you know, it's just all the little things. Details. Okay, so hear me out. I'm an NFL owner, and we just won the Super Bowl. I get to the team and say, hey, I got an idea.

How about we forego getting rings this year? And instead, we have giant blinged out watches. How would the players feel about something like that? I'd love to know. I'm a ring guy. Yeah, the ring is. the tradition. A blinged-out watch,

I don't think everyone would be on the same page. It's definitely a ring. No ands, ifs, or busts. I'm going to ring. It's a ring. Rings and things. It's a ring. I just want to watch you guys know on.

I just wonder who you guys think between you two has the best game day trip. I can answer this. Julian by fire has the best game day drip. I'm a guy that was showing up in a T-shirt. you know, Jim shorts and sandals. Julian came with style

every single time he arrived to that stadium. Jules, can you, you know, give us more details about your drip that you had? St.

L-Y-E because I got it. Remember what was that? Blink check. S-T-Y-E because I got it. Uh, I fucking love that shit.

I used to theme up my outfits pre-game. Like if we were playing in Chicago or like, I would wear like an Al Capone style fucking suit or you know if we were in Miami I'd keep it a little Miami Vicey keep a little open up here keep a thion on it you know go out to Cali keep it a little more chill I'd like to dress the part because I was going into a mindset you know bring in my when it was the foliage would come out in Foxborough I'd get my Harrison Ford beautiful look going like I'll

just going to work. I like that stuff. It's costume shit. See, he told you Jules got some style. He like a crocodile. What's up, Gronkin, Jules. This is Bird from Kentucky.

I've recently called into Kentucky Sports Radio a few times to bitch and complain about Tucky not using a grass field for the football program. Recently, Coach Belichick changed North Carolina's field from turf back to grass, and I wanted to know what your guys, thoughts on the turf versus grass football field debate. Love the show and keep up the good work.

Easy grass. And especially where they're at, he said Kentucky and North Carolina, those get those Bermuda grasses, which are spongy and it's like a fast grass. When you're in the south, you can get fast grass. Like when you get up in the north, you get those like Kentucky blue grasses. Like when you get to, what is it, the Steelers when they used to have it, or Packers or Chicago. They have like a longer grass.

But I like I always love that that Florida grass, that Bermuda. Whenever you went to those southern states, they always had great grass. Fast grass, fast track. Just better for your body too. Mm-hmm. Well, bird from Kentucky usually people don't like when other people bitch and complain, but you have a pass on this one. This is very acceptable that your.

bitching and complaining because grass absolutely dominates turf for the reasons that Julian said, but on top of it as well, when you get tackled and you land on grass, it's so much more comfort and so much more, you know, style as well. Give so much more give. And you don't get that turf burn on some nice grass, especially that Bermuda grass that Julian was talking about. So grass definitely on my ass. Big Bermuda guy.

yeah playing surfaces AstroTurf's the worst regular turf's the second worst or the new turf Bermuda grass is number one Kentucky Blue is number two basketball court awful

basketball court what about parking lot jewels no knees hey what about a dirt road dirt road jewels well you mean the Raiders stadium back when we played there in 2011 with the fucking infield there

I mean we did that too. Let's get into the chills dude of the week brought to you by our favorite beer Coors Light. Get Coorslight delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and celebrate. Cheers my boy, Chules. Celebrate. Coors Light. Cold is the Rockies. Mm-hmm. And don't you worry, everyone.

We have one more call to go. The most important call of the day. Hey, Julian and Grunt. This is Colin. I'm from mid-region, New Hampshire. Had a quick question for you, guys. Out of the two of you, right, if you were on an island, who would survive the longest? All right. Thanks, guys.

Love the show. Keep it up. Well, before we get into it, it really wouldn't be a competition who would survive the longest because Julian and I would be sitting there and teaming up with each other to help each other out so we could both survive while being on the island. And it's a hard question because Julian's super scrappy, super smart. We'll figure out ways, you know, to get through while we're on the island. And then same with myself.

When it comes down to that crunch time, I can dig really, really deep and figure out situations for myself, you know, to survive, hunt, you know, get some fish, whatever it is, kill an animal. So we would help each other out and we wouldn't let each other die. I can tell you that. brain and brawn but if you really really had to answer that in both you really really had to answer that that's tough that is tough i would i would say whoever has more meat on their bones whoever ate more following that trip to that island before we got stuck i would become a fat ass i would survive longer than julian i would put on like 30 freaking pounds so i can just you know survive off of that extra 30 pounds and just have fuel and use all that fat to survive while jules is just so

jacked that he doesn't have that extra fat for energy so i would beat his ass because of that reason so i would fatten up and win by win by a margin that's some smart smart thinking by me you got you got you got to think about this let's hear it we're on a deserted island castaway probably have tigers castaway vibes probably have tigers full castaway vibes probably have tigers full castaway vibes. Probably have tigers, some kind of predator on there. They see something big.

They're going after that. I can hide in like little nooks and fucking caves and shit. You couldn't even get in a cave because your shoulders are fucking 39 inches wide. I'm a cave man. Camille complains 24-7 that I eat like a caveman

every time I sit down for dinner. I don't use a fork. I don't. use a spoon. I don't use a knife. I use my hands only. So I'm more prepared in those situations. Don't be saying I won't be fitting in the cave. You're a caveman in how you act. Cave men were really like three foot two. You are like a giant. You're Andre the giant. Are you kidding? I mean, I don't know, man. Can you climb trees? I can climb trees in that situation. Can you start a fire? I can start a fire. I can start a fire. I'll take two sticks. I can start a fire. I'll be smashing those sticks together. I mean, I don't know. I'll be smashing those sticks together. I'll start the shit out of fire. I'll be rubbing those sticks together. I'll start the shit out of fire. Whoever starts fire first wins. I'll start that fire first. I'm a pyro. I was a pyro growing up. I love fire. I know how to deal with fires. I know how to start bomb fires. Probably should not come to

LA. But say we're not worried about who survives longer. We're working together as a team. Like who's the brain. I feel like that you would have the idea. I think it'd go back and forth. I agree. We both have knowledge. shit on different stuff. And the thing is, you would, you would come up with something and I would execute it, you know? But you would come up with something like... And you would execute it. Randomly that we would, that I would think, are like, oh man, yeah, we should do

that. And then I would come up with the infrastructure on how to execute your game plan. And then you would go out and we would execute it. What would be... I'm just scared of the bugs and shit, dude. And the, like, how do we know we're... You know, that's the stuff. It's not the big stuff. It's like... we're sleeping down. You get bit by a goddamn scorpion that poisons you and you're done.

So basically whoever has the better luck would survive the longest. I mean, what's out there on the island? There's so many circumstances and so much that can go into this question. I mean, say like there's just fish all around and there's really no other wild animals that can attack us and take us down and there's no random snakes or predators that can get us and bite us,

no random spiders that can bite us and poison us, that we would survive forever. We would survive until we're 100 years old. We would actually. I'd make it a four seasons. We would actually live till about 150 because we would have no poison in us. We would just have fish only. We would be jacked as shit. We would be because we wouldn't even have any carbs.

We would just have protein for every single meal. And as long as there's bananas probably on the trees. I mean, we would survive forever. We would find a coconut tree and shake. that freaking tree until all the coconuts fall down. Electrol lights. There we go. Dude, Jules, we should actually go to this island. We should find an island and just go there and live because we would live forever.

Did we get a lighter? No, we got to make her own fire. We get no lighter. And we don't, we don't need clothes. Don't. Just underwear or something just so we don't got to look at each other. I just put a leaf. There we go.

Two leaves and fucking a string from one of the packages that we found. Like you're in the BC era. But if we were on an island, what would be? like the thing you feared most like would it be a shark say everything's in play like every animal's in play what animal would you fear the most jewels a shark a lion uh some some shit that i ain't never seen somehow this island still has dinosaurs that exists we're the something i would be looking for like velociraptors or some lizard that's fucking crazy a snake Like, like, the real question is, would you eat me if I died of natural causes?

And the fish went low. You know you're getting protein. Yeah, I sure am getting protein. With that boxer body that you got, just all muscle. Lean. It'd be like eating a bison. I wouldn't. You might.

You might get, you. You might get jack. I wouldn't eat you. I think I would eat you. I want to eat you. If, if you were someone random that I didn't know. No, yes, but I know you too well. I would rather die first before I ate you to survive.

It's a good man. Yeah, I don't think I could eat someone. I actually just watched that movie where that plane crashed in the Swiss mountains, I'm pretty sure. And they eventually had to eat each other to survive. It was a tough movie to watch in those circumstances. It was a really good movie, but it was tough to watch a human eat another human to survive. You know about the Donner Pass, right? No, what's that?

Like old Oregon Trail. There was like a family that came over like the Sierra Nevada mountains during the winter. And it started out with a bunch of people. And everyone started dying because they ran out of all. They didn't bring enough supplies and they were freezing and they started to eat in each other. called Donner Pass Never heard of it What if you slipped fell

And you had to like You had a huge infection Grown in your arm Could you cut off your arm? No I would just jump in the ocean Let the saltwater take care of that business Because saltwater heals all Saltwater would get rid of that infection

I would sit there, it would burn It would burn like a mofo But I would sit there until that burn goes away And that infection goes away And then if I had to If that didn't work I would Cut off my arm

But then how would you like how would you stop the blood from you know the blood from belated you got to turnicid it with like some fucking a branch a thin branch what i would do i'd take well i saw some bamboo on instagram you take branches and you can like rip off the things of the branch to make like a and then you could braid it to make a rope mm-hmm so i'd probably have to it take i before i cut my arm off i'd probably braid a nice rope turnicit it then go then i'd go find something to chew on while I fucking rip it off. What would we do for fun?

I already know. I already know, Jules. You don't even got to answer. We would probably find a tree branch that's kind of similar to a baseball bat. This brings me back to when we bunted, you know, when we dented the Lombardi trophy when I bunted with it.

And we would have a tree branch that represents that baseball bat. And we would find a little rock and we would play baseball throughout the whole entire island. We would probably build our own little fence, have a couple bases out there, used the coconut's as bases, you know, and we'd just be throwing ball all day long where we would come back and we'd be better than Big Poppy on the Red Sox. Maybe Marco Polo in the water one day. I guarantee we would there would be a, it wouldn't be like a game.

It would just be like, hey, I bet you I could hit that fucking, I bet you I could hit that rock on that mountain with this rock. First one to do it has to do five pushups. all right we sit there for four hours it's like a 80 yard throw no one hits it we throw and ruin our arms I have to cut it off because we infect them fun would be like swimming probably leaping frogs I think fun would be like the exploration of the island home run derby catching fish spear fishing with branches catching fish with our hands I that would be deflating there's you know you realize how hard it is waving down every airplane or helicopter that flies over that's in the sky even though there's no chance of them seeing us we'd be waving them down or every boat trying to yell you know yell to as loud as possible help help make a big oh sOS out of rocks like that would be kind of fun you can make a game out of it like we're not here to we're here to survive it's not like i think we'd we'd pull the fun out of survival

see we're already thinking i don't know i think that would be kind of fun this is fun only thing we need is a case of cores lead on there would be all right oh we would grow our beards out look like real cavemen i wonder how much like you how much weight you lose you wait you would lose hell of weight like just from like the the amount of eating we're so accustomed to you drop that like 40% and we'd probably be dropping it like 80% you drop that you drop that 20% for a week, you'll lose 5, 10 pounds. You do that 80% for a year, grunk would be looking like Jesus.

Amen. Big ass tall skin again. Or what if you get like a toothache? I remember that in Castaway. He'd knock his tooth out. I can tell you this, Jules. If we got stuck on the island, it would be the best rehab session we ever had.

No caffeine, no chew for you. absolutely no alcohol at all around. Like we would come back with the cleanest, clearest minds of all time. We could make alcohol pretty easy probably. We would be like Tom Brady. Oh my gosh. We probably might come out look like Tom.

So that's, we should just call the TV 12 method the castaway method. Should we try out for Survivor? Nah, Jimmy Johnson already beat us to it. He's a legend. Coach Jimmy's dialed when you do that Survivor shit. We did a couple of those on our, the thing that we're not supposed to talk about,

but that Tom posted about. Jimmy is all in on the team. He is. Like the ball coach comes out. And that we did Survivor stuff and watching him tan with the hair and no shirt and like a bandana. It's just, it's natural. And that was the chillest dude of the week. Thanks to our favorite beer, Coors Light.

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