Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Terrell Owens

Episode Date: July 11, 2026

We're covering legendary wide receiver, Terrell Owens! Gronk and Julian Edelman discuss what made Emmitt so great and some of their favorite stories.Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Was a wild dude. What's the wildest thing that comes to your mind when you hear of Terrell Owens, a.k.a. T-O. The first thing that comes to my mind is him doing sit-ups in front of his house on a sit-up, like, bench with all the media outside of him. Was it during his suspension? It was during his suspension when he got suspended by a Philadelphia Eagle. And he looked yoked.

He looked yoked. And he looked yoked. I remember that press conference that he did outside of his home when he was doing his sit-ups. And I'm telling you, I was at such in shock of how yoked he was and how ripped

that I truly didn't believe that I could play in the NFL from there because I thought that's what you had to look like in order to catch passes. Specimen. And the NFL. Just, yeah, absolute specimen. an absolute freak of nature he looked like the guy didn't have an ounce of fat on him and i was like

damn i want to look like that one day man that guy is ripped great smile too yeah he's beautiful he is he is freaking t-o man he i grew up watching him and i saw i mean i remember when it just changed overnight you know he he struggled with drops early in his career and then it was that wild card weekend or divisional round game against green big for Steve Young almost fell in his drop and hit him down the middle of the field on a split, split safety seam. And Terrell caught a ball in between three guys,

got crunch, made the play, they won the game. And like, from there on out, he just took off. Is that the play that he, you know, start crying right after he made the casual? That just shows that someone loves the game of football as well. To have that type of emotion after a play like that and then you're crying right there and then on the field. He's emotional guy.

That's when you know you love the game of football, though. When a play can make you cry. You could tell he loved, he loved football. He liked playing football. I don't know, but he didn't love, you know, there's a lot of the team stuff where, you know, he, Andy Reid is considered probably the most, like he's a big player coach, right? From what we hear, I've never played with.

Player coach that takes no, no shit. And he had to get him out. And they traded them in the division to Cowboys. That's crazy to me. That's a wild move. I've heard, though, that... If you go in division against, like, your rival, that's like one of the oldest rivalries in goddamn football.

Philly fucking Cowboys. And he was still elite. Like, that's how wild of a dude you have to be. He was wild in all aspects. He was wild, you know, playing the game of football. He was wild off the field. He was wild with touchdown celebrations. But he was all.

also wild with what he was going through when playing in some of the games, like the broken leg or the broken ankle in the Super Bowl. That's crazy. He literally broke his ankle, like, or twist there or whatever it was. It was basically broken. He played against the paths in Super Bowl 39. What? He had what?

I think like nine receptions for 120 plus yards. Yeah. From what I recall, yes, New England won that Super Bowl baby 24, 21, but obviously Philadelphia Eagles. They got us back when they beat us in what, 2017. That's because Julian wasn't playing Jules. If you were playing, we would have won that game. You had no problem

on offense that year. And what's wild about it too is he signed a waiver to go against the doctor's orders in order to play that game because the doctors were telling him that he couldn't play because of how significant the injury was. But he was so wild, so ambitious and loved the game

of football so much. And he was so wild in his rehab that he got himself. to the point where he was able to play in that Super Bowl. And like I said, I'm going to say it again, nine receptions, 122 yards, what, two weeks after breaking your ankle or three weeks or whatever it was? No, it was actually, I think he broke it. It was Week 15.

It was week 15. So he had about four or five weeks to recover and play in the Super Bowl. That's fast, bro. You got to give him credit, man. He's like one of those ultra competitors where like it doesn't matter what's going on outside the game. Whenever you put him inside the lines, he's going to ball. And when I watch

his film, he's a he, he is absolutely a freak out there with how big he was, with how he could catch the ball. He looked like a tight end in the middle of the field, but he's fast, he's,

you never saw anyone catch Tio from behind. Who did he remind you of? He reminded me of you. I agree with that, bro. What I loved about Tio on the field, especially his young days, bro. This guy was strong. Strong. Long legs, strong legs.

And the most important thing was he never got tired. To be that size, 6-4, 220-plus pounds, and to never get tired, yapping his mouth, doing his antics, going for over 100-plus yards a game. You know what I think that's because of? What's it because of? Because he was drafted in San Francisco, and he saw how Jerry Rice was.

And Jerry Rice was the most in the shape mother in the history of the guy. goddamn game. And I guarantee, regardless of how in shape T.O. was. That's a good point. Jerry was Jerry still. And then once, you know, I remember the day on Jerry Rice Day that freaking T.O. caught 20 damn balls on Jerry Rice's last game as a nineer. But like having that horse, that rabbit horse of what Jerry Rice was helped make T.O. How crazy T.O. was because in the back of his mind, he's probably thinking, man, that's the greatest receiver. I'm better than him. But he saw how Jerry prepared so he probably took a little bit of that that's a good point man well said and and what also made

tio so great as a football player as well he was so explosive so explosive it didn't matter if it was coming you know right off the line into the route or after making the catch he would just explode right up the field and he was so strong because you could tell you was so strong because like you said he reminded me of me i would just say a little bit skinnier and at the wide receiver position so he's kind of like a j brown yes he reminds me of a j brown and anyone that tried tassie brown and anyone that tried tauts He would just throw the defender right off of him. T.O. broke tackles. He broke tackles like no other wide receiver broke tackles.

That's why he kind of reminds me of myself. It looked like he was a mini-mee just running through the defense. And he was so physical as well at top of the route. That's what got him open plenty of times. On top of having a deep ball and running by a defender, that's what made T.O. so great. Special. And special as well.

And that's why he's a top five receiver. of all time? All time. He has to be. I mean, you watch his film on like five different teams. Even when he was old guy, he was still making crazy play. I mean, he played in a professional game, I think, like four years ago, about 50. Like, he's still a specimen.

Yes, he's playing in basketball leagues, celebrity basketball games. He doesn't get tired. And he's always, he's always ready to go, man. He's never sore. I feel like every time I see him, he's just full speed. How wild was it when he went to fucking Dallas and did the Star thing? Well, what was wild? Well, that was when he was on San Francisco.

He did the Star thing that Emmett Smith came back and did the Star thing. He's so freaking wild that he went back and did it again after scoring another touchdown. That's how Wild T.O. is in. He had Dallas absolutely hate him. And then what was so wild in the end is he got traded to Dallas at, you know, some point in his career from Philadelphia Eagles. And then they fell in love with him in Dallas as well because he was such a baller and so wild out there on the field. and had a freaking like 50 wild TD celebrations as well in Dallas. What other TD?

I remember him doing the popcorn in the face. Oh, wait up. He tossed me a ball. Listen. And you're there. For heart-wrenching knockouts. The world's biggest stage. And breathtaking triumph.

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He would just shout one line and it wouldn't murder. Marie, lunch! Let's talk about the best moments that we had on the road. I would love a cocktail. Dude, Joe could get last row, middle seat, on a Southwest Airlines flight. Joe, how was your flight? It was great.

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And I was like, it's not my mind. thing either, but we're here. When in Rome? Top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody. Listen to Paul's best podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Real quick. Yeah. Yeah, I got you. Here. Here, Jules. Oh, Tony Romo. Drop him back. Oh, hits Tio. Touchdown, baby. One of the most famous one that we saw even influenced Christian McCaffrey on one of our episodes.

One of you seven years old. Seven years old takes out, signs the ball after a touchdown takes out of his sock how fucking crazy that's kind of like when you took out the easy button on your fucking out of your out of the thing i got he influenced i got jules his autograph dude i'm going right to ebay baby i need some money in my bank how much will i get jules probably 300 bucks did he influence you to take out the easy button because actually that is exactly who influenced me because once i saw the easy button in my locker when staple sent it to me I actually was like, oh, I'm going to hide this behind the goalposts. No, he hid something behind a goal post.

That was Joe Horn with the cell phone. Ocho, what? Ocho tried to hide the easy button. Ocho tried to hide the easy button. Put it this way. I was inspired by T.O. and Chad Ocho, single combined. And that's what made me do, the easy button, you know, celebration and practice. Two wild cards.

Because of those two guys. They inspired me to be freaking absolutely wild. So here we go. Sign football. here inspired by Tio and we'll be giving this football away everyone one lucky fan best comment section in something we'll we'll discover what it is but you got to do something really cool what else we got it we miss anything else yeah what i really love about Tio as well and what made him such a beast on the field and so hard to tackle is the way he ran and the way he just got his knees up in the

air he ran with high knees when you run with high knees like that it's hard to take someone out and especially catch him from behind. And that's why he looked like, what are those gazelles out there? Yeah. He looked like a gazelle when he was running. And kind of like a horse as well. And that's why no one can catch him.

And that's why he was so great, so fast, so talented, because of those high knees, that drive that he had. How old is T.L. right now? He's 50. He still looks great, man. He still looks like a professional athlete.

If you see, I saw him like maybe a couple years ago somewhere. He was cool as fuck. And he still looked like you could go out. What a fuck El Dorado is his middle name? El Dorado. Terrell. Al Dorado Owens. Elder.

That is a sick guy. I would have gone as El Dorado. El Dorado Owens. That would have been a badass football name. Eldorado. Imagine just putting Al Dorado. I'm back of a jersey name. Eldorado.

Oh, everyone would have that jersey. Why don't you give me some way? I don't know that song What's the craziest injury that you played through? I would say I basically did the same thing when I basically snapped my ankle in half AFC championship game

versus Baltimore Ravens I came back in that game about 15 minutes later and played about eight minutes with eight minutes left in the fourth quarter so that was one of the craziest injuries I played through. Oh, also I broke six of my ribs when I was in Tampa

I got level going across the middle. Tom set me up once again. I think we've, we've talked about that, didn't we? I don't know. I'm not sure. You're like we talked about that already. And I broke six of my ribs and then the x-ray machine showed that I didn't break any ribs.

So I went back in the game like, oh, I got to go back and I can't, you know, be a, be a sissy. The x-ray machine said I had no broken ribs. So I go back in the game, get two more catches. I'm like, I'm hurting, bro. I'm hurting. Like this, this is bad. So I take myself back out of the. the game. We go home and then I get an MRI and I have six broken ribs. Jesus. So I played through

that. That was painful. That was painful. What about him and Ocho having a TV show together? I remember it was hosted by like Kevin Frazier and it was on like a network we really never heard of. But what would our show be called name? That's the T.O. Show. That's pretty good name. How about the T. The T.O. Chonky nuts. gronky nuts I like it gronken jewels dronkin jewels

and then last let us know what you guys think our show should be also we'd be crazy if we don't talk about when he started crying about Tony Romo and that's my quarterback

you know how many times I've used that in just like a jokingly term I've heard you use it plenty of times in the quarterback man what about his shades though those are some pretty

awful shades I liked them I thought they were swaggy I was not a fan of him. T.O. was, I bet you he's just a misunderstood dude. He's got a lot of emotions in there. I wonder what his upbringing was because he would have those bursts.

You know what I mean? But you knew he loved the game. Well, what kind of dude is Terrell Owens, Jules? I think it's easy for this one. I mean, he's, you could put him in as a dog because he's a dog. He's definitely a stud. Whiz, he's, uh, he's could be a whiz. I mean, he definitely knows, no,

a game of football. He was all-purpose on the field. I mean, he could take handoffs as well. He could line up. He could do everything on the field. Yeah, he was an all-purpose football player besides a running back. But I think it's one thing and one thing only. Yeah, I agree with you.

I mean, this guy had unparalleled physical abilities. Unparalleled. I mean, he was one of one. His instincts were through the roof. I got to go with. One, two, three. Freak. Freak.

Absolute freak of nature. I got another question. real quick, Jules. Would you cry for Tom Brady? I did cry for Tom Brady, but it wasn't in the same context. It was when I read about him leaving New England, and without, you know, reading it from him, I read it on ESPN bottom ticker that Brady signed to Tampa Bay. And then, you know, I had a single tear run down my beard.

I just saw him three days before, too, with Jimmy fucking Fallon at the goddamn Syracuse. game the guy didn't hint anything to me i feel for you jules would you cry for him i have are you gonna cry right now yeah let's see if you can can you cry on command just crying just thinking about all our good times we don't think is that a grown cry i see it here i'm trying i see a tear i'm trying i'm trying i just tried i almost got a tear i I almost got a tear. Wow, I almost got a tear.

That was pretty good. Hey, pretty good. I think, I'm not lying. I almost got one. I'm actually feeling more emotional now. Where did you go to get the emotion? I just thought about all our Super Bowl wins and how much work we put in and how it's all over. So that's what you pulled from to get the tear.

I need to, I'm working on my tears. I just did an audition where I had to have a sex scene with a guy over Zoom. Oh, I would be cheering. Let's just be safe to say. the fucking roll. That's good. I'm glad you didn't, Jules. God.

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