Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on the 2025 NFL Draft

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

It's Draft Day! Today, we're talking all things NFL Draft. The guys share their draft day experiences, we break down Cam Ward and his wild journey to potential number one pick, then we look into our Crystal Balls to see what the future holds for some of these high profile draftees. We feature the chillest dudes of this year's draft in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I forgot the second day. The ice cream truck didn't have enough ice cream. Yes. That was day two. The only time, Rob, has ever been mad. We're going to have to give her a call eventually, and I'm going to have to clear it up on day two. But I think it was when the ice cream ran out of the ice cream truck. Welcome to dudes on dudes.

I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Grankowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. Happy Draft Day, everyone. It's finally here. What are we talking about today? Well, how about me partying on stage with my family after I got drafted in the second round? You probably had a lot of energy bottled up.

Is that why we had like a mosh pit in the middle of the draft room? All about the prospective number one pick. That's a guy that knows what he's doing because he's been counted out his whole entire life. And we look into our crystal balls. Magical crystal balls. The crystal ball and our brain, jewels. Oh, let me shake it up. I don't think our brains need to be shaken anymore.

And then we wrap it up with the coolest dudes and the draft with this week's chillest dude of the week presented by Coors like, let's go. Dudes on dudes is a production of I Heart Radio. Draft is coming up tonight. Yes, it is. Big night. A lot of hope for fans, a lot of new beginnings for athletes. It's just like the start of the season. The draft is the start of the season.

What do you remember from the draft? Start of your new life as well, man. You're about to be a professional. Well, now these days, these guys are technically professionals because a professional is when you get paid for doing what you do and they're getting paid in college now. So technically they are professionals, but they're becoming true pros now when they go to the NFL.

NFL pros, which is the pros of all pros. But I remember this, you know, to the T. Drew Rosenhouse, he got me invited to the NFL draft through, I think, who's that guy? He was older. He's the one who invited all the guys there. I forgot his name, man. Legendary.

Roger Goodell? No, legendary in the draft. Drew called me up. He's like, I got you invited to the NFL draft. And I was like, no way. Because I didn't even play my junior year in college. So it's kind of absurd that I even got invited to the NFL draft. And Drew was like, hey, you might not go first round, but, you know, you'll go second round, at least.

And you'll be the first one. at the draft to be selected in the second round. I was like, whatever, I'm going first round. I was very optimistic that I was going first round. And the draft comes, you know, I'm all excited. I'm only 20 years old, actually. I got my whole family there, my friends from growing up in high school. They drove from Buffalo, New York.

So shout out to my buddies. No adult beverages yet. Yes, no adult beverages. I'm only 20 years old, you know. I wasn't drinking yet until I got the 21. But so the draft comes. and, you know, first team on the clock, you know, that needs a tight end. And it's the 21st pick.

Who? The Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals. Their tight end coach, he came and worked me out at my pro day, too. I felt like I had a, you know, terrific pro day. Felt like I was the best tight end in the draft. You know, I had a lot of question marks because of my craziness in college and not playing my junior year and having the back surgery. And I don't get drafted.

They take Jermaine Gresham. and to this day my mom still claims that there's only two days of my life where she saw me pissed and and mad or whatever term she puts it and she says it was draft night and i forgot the second one yeah i forgot the second day the ice cream the ice cream truck fell out didn't have enough ice cream yes there we go but the only time rob has ever been mad we're gonna have to give her a call eventually and I'm going to have to clear it up on day two but I think it was when the ice cream ran out of the ice cream truck they ran out there but yeah she still recalls it to that day hey i never seen you like that rob you know once the Cincinnati Bengals pass and you and you

didn't get drafted in the second in the first round you know so I was disappointed you know I felt like a first round talent but then you know day two comes what you had a lot of you probably had a lot of energy bottled up probably a lot of madness going in there, didn't go first round. Rob Grunkowski took the other guy first. Is that why we had the exuberant of energy, excitement on the stage with the whole Grunkowski family and extended relatives doing the mash pit in the middle of the draft room?

100%. I was ready to unleash it on the first night of the draft in the first round. And, you know, that all got bundled up because I actually went back to my room. and it's the first time where my friends and everyone just saw me say, hey, I'm just calling it a night. I'm just going to go to bed and wait for the second day of the draft and see where I go. And then New England gave me that call with the 42nd pick.

And my life changed right on the spot. I actually, you know, when I got that call, I was furious. I wasn't like furious. I was just pissed. I didn't go in the first round. I just felt like I belonged there. And that was always a dream of mine. But when I got that call from New England, I didn't care one single bit anymore that I didn't go in the first round.

Like, my aura just got re-picked back up. Like, my dream, you know, came to real life right on the spot in that moment, man. It was the best, one of my best moments and feelings I've ever had. It had nothing to do with the simple fact that you just dodged a bullet by having to almost go play with Andy Dalton instead getting Tom Brady. 100% and my agent. And that's no shade on Andy, but if you're a fucking receiver or tight in this world,

you got a chance to play with Tom Brady. You're going to go play with Tom Brady. You got football gods looked out. Yes, the football gods did look out for me. And I remember sitting there. Could have been you and Joe Burrow, though. Again, maybe in another universe, in another universe, like,

interstellar in the fifth dimension, there's fucking Rob Gruncowski catching seam routes over eating skyline Chile in Cincinnati. Having one of the Grancowski, I bet you, and instead of Gordy living in like Southy, he's probably living in like Kentucky

right across the river from fucking Cincinnati and he's got like a little thing going on out there. Like this whole life can be in Cincinnati. And he's hitting the universe of Kentucky bars on Friday night and Saturday night and then he's coming Louisville couple times.

You know, Shakers. Hitting the NFL Sunday games. I mean, the fucking, this Cincinnati parallel verse, I don't know how to say it. It was in Spider-Man.

It almost happened. Paralliverse. What is it? We want to think. Multiverse. Yes. Well, let's thank Jermaine Gresham

for being a stud because they took him over me, which was possibly the best thing that ever happened in my career. No doubt about that. Because at the same time, I was at the draft too, and Drew Rosenhouse's brother, Jason Rosenhouse, who does all the behind-the-scenes work with their agency. He goes, hey, Rob, he said this across the table when like the 28th pick came.

He's like, I know you're mad right now. He goes, but you dodge a bullet, not going to Cincinnati, trust me. And I was like, oh, all right. Like it made me feel better at that moment. I was like, okay, that's what I'm talking about. So that was cool by him, you know. He made me feel comfortable with my skin. He was just telling the truth.

And now looking back at it, I sure did dodge a fucking bullet. Went to Tom Brady, baby. If you had one piece of advice for a player going in the NFL about to get drafted tonight or the next couple nights, what would it be? Stay calm, stay cool, stay collective. You know, you may not hear your name called where you want it to be called, but let me tell you, that's not going to define your legacy. You know, you're going to still get the same opportunity in the NFL.

if you're the 10th pick in the draft or if you're the 100th pick in the draft or even if you're a free agent. You're going to get more chances. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. You're going to get the same opportunity as a first rounder. You'll get an opportunity. But you get more opportunities if you're a first rounder and you're not really panning out. If you're good, you're going to stick.

Yes, exactly. So just be good. Be patient. It doesn't define you where you're drafted. It just gives you that chance. even if you're a free agent and you're signing for free agent money with a team, you're still going to get that chance and make the most of it once you get that opportunity and once you get that chance.

All right. That's very heartfelt. Now, once the player gets drafted, after he gets drafted, what's the advice? All right. The advice is. That night. That night? Enjoy it.

Take it in, buddy. Take it in. Have all your friends around you, have your family around you. You know, if you're single. A guy, though. Have one guy. that's sober, taking care of everything.

Always, always have someone sober around you. Get your Uber lined up. And, okay, get your car service. If you're single, make sure you got like 10 ladies around you.

Oh, whatever it is that you like around you. Yes. If you're not single, I'll then have your girl there and tell her that, you know, that it might be getting

a little bit crazy today. I don't know. I don't know, Jules. I was 20 years old. I was absolute maniac, you know. I remember jumping.

up and down on stage with Roger Gooddown and my family. It was the best moment of my life. I'll still remember that day even afterlife. I will remember the team meeting after you doing that when you weren't even on the team yet with the offense, Billy O'Brien saying, you guys are going to love this fucking guy. He is everything you think he is and more. And he's a fucking insane football player. And I remember Billy O'Brien saying,

the fucking ball looks like a beer can in his hand. Look how big his hands are. Remember who I'm always saying that? Yes. Yes, I do. A billi-o, man, what a visit I had with him. That story's been told like a million times. So we don't need to revamp that.

But man, it was just meant to be me going to New England. Oh, without a doubt. It really was in all situations. I needed to go to New England. That was my calling was to go there. And I loved that. I just fit in with the culture there. I fit in with the people of New England.

I fit in with you guys right away. I mean, we love to just work hard and then just play hard as well, especially when we were young bucks. We were working hard. We were playing hard. Are you going to do the fucking 69th pick for the Patriots or what? All right. Well, we talked about this already on a previous episode.

And let me tell you, that blew up everywhere. I didn't know it was going to gain that much traction. So Stacey James, we kind of loosen Stacey James up a little bit because Stacey James up tight, like a little bit. Like, he's, he's by the book, you know, hey, Rob, you can't say this. You can't do that. No, we're not going to do this. We're going to do that.

But, like, we've loosened them up through our times. Eight years ago, 10 years ago. So now, like, he appreciates, like, all the silly jokes we have. And he gives me a holler. And he sees our little podcast. And he goes, hey, Rob, he gives me a text. If you really want to announce the 69th pick of the draft, let me know. I'll get it done.

And I'm like, oh, coming from Stacey James, all right. You know, loosen up, baby. I'm like, we made it. Stacey James is making it now, too. He's big time, you know. He's being silly as well. So I hit him back up. I'm like, okay, I'll let you know.

Let me look at the date and where it's at. And then the NFL front office hits me up too. Tracy. Yeah, shout out to Tracy. Does such a great job. Yeah, she is the best. And she's like, hey, Rob, are you serious about the 69th pick? Like, we'll get it done.

And I'm like, yeah, I'm serious about the 69 pick. Like, how could I not be? And by the way, 69 jokes, they kind of like went downhill, like, in the last, like, 10 years. Like, they got overused. And, like, you got to pick your spot when 69 jokes are going to be good. No, this is your spot. And, like, this was the time to, you know, bring that 69 energy back to the table. I think we need to bring 69 energy back to the table.

So I'm sitting there and I look at my calendar and I'm like, oh, crap. I already got something that Friday night. We got Fox retreats. I got a retreat, you know. Business stuff. Business stuff. We'll just put it that way. I got business stuff that Friday night.

So I'm thinking about it, though. So I sent him a message and said, I am so sorry, I cannot make it, you know. This hurts me deeply that I cannot announce a 69 pick in person. It's all the way in Green Bay, too. That would have been, you know, a hard travel. Hard travel. And how can you 69 when you're frozen, too? That's hard.

Like, that would have been really tough to announce that pick. Can't 69 frozen. It's more like a six, zero. Yeah. There's no, there's no nine part. Yeah, you can't, you're frozen.

I'm shrunken. I can't, you can't, you know, raise the bar when you're shrunken in the cold. Yeah. But I told them, I sent a message to Tracy. I sent a message to,

Stacy, Stacy and Stacy. Sounds like a great couple. And I'm like, hey, I can't make it, unfortunately, but let me know. I can zoom in

or I can send a video in announcing the C-Sys. We'll see if we'll see how it goes tonight. Maybe it sticks, maybe it doesn't. No, it's tomorrow night, Jules. The 69th pick is Friday. Oh. Yeah.

Sorry, I'm not good with numbers. We'll see. Tune in. Tune in. Yeah. Well, I got a question, though. You got drafted in the seventh round, Julian. What's it like when you got that phone call?

And what's it like to, you know, get drafted in the later rounds and see everyone in front of you be drafted and go into, you know, the organization, knowing that you were the last pick. Is there kind of a chip on your shoulder? When you're a late round guy, at that point, you just want to get drafted. And I just wanted to see my name on the ticker or be called out loud. Being a late round guy, it's like every man for your fucking self. Looking back on it, going in the seventh round is worse than being undrafted. I mean, my signing bonus was double. I think my signing bonus was $49,000 when, you know,

I had six teams that called and said, we're not drafted you, but if you get on, if you go undrafted, we'll give you $20,000 to sign with us. So there's a bunch of priority, free agent lineups. If I didn't get drafted,

which I was going to pick the Green Bay Packers, we're going to go to the Packers. but when you get drafted in the seventh, you're locked down for four years. When you're undrafted free agent, it's only two years. So you get to free agency quicker. Now, it's a double-edged sword because you have more time to develop. You'll get a little more opportunity than the guy who's undrafted

because you're a draft pick. But if you ball out early and you're undrafted, you get to go to free agency quicker. You can make more money. And you get more money for the, what was it, the player performance? So that's how I used to clean up. I get a lot of money for player performance, which was a formula that gave guys

due to their draft picks money towards their playing time. So every play counted as a certain amount of dollar. And for my scale, it was extremely high because I was a seventh round draft pick. So I'm used to make a good amount of change from all the special teams and all the personnel groups when I got those plays through the player performance. But yeah, man, I was just happy to be drafted.

I just went on a rant. I had C-T-E-O moment. Well, there's two benefits to getting drafted in the seventh round. One, to say you got drafted. You can say that for the rest of your life. Seventh. And two, you don't have to choose a team like you're going through the free agency process. It just makes it easy.

They chose you. Yeah. Other than that, I guess be a free agent instead of getting drafted. in the seventh round. Wait. Yeah. No, it's, if you- I would rather say for the rest of my life, I got drafted into the NFL.

Yeah, but it's almost like you're in the last round of the draft, so it's almost better like to be like, well, I was undraft. If I have my same success on the field, it almost sounds cooler coming at, you know, last round still sounds cool, but undrafted, like Danny Amandola, his story's cooler because he went undrafted. Yeah. You know what I mean? Dancing Amandola. Danny Dancing Amandola.

I don't know. Has he been dancing lately? I mean, he did the whole show. He almost won it all. I haven't seen him dance since. If I ever did that dancing with the stars show, I'd be going out to the club and I'd be ripping up to dance for for four hours straight showing all the moves that I gained. And this dude just stopped dancing right on the spot. I don't know. I think he's been out of some clubs.

Yeah, yeah. But not dancing. It could be. It could be. Nah, if he was dancing, it would be all over to play. He'd just prancing. Stop prancing. Start dancing, Danny.

Yeah, stop Prancing and start dancing. Yeah. Wes Welker, free agent. Free agent? Yeah, wasn't drafted. Danny Woodhead. Woodhead stud. Rookie free agent.

A lot of stud. We play with Pat McAfee. Did he get drafted? Seventh round. He was a seventh round. Seventh round. Same year as me. My brother, Dan Grancowski,

Detroit Lion, second last pick to being, uh, Mr. Irrelevant. So he was Mr. semi irrelevant. Yeah. He's Mr. Irrelevant.

Yes. that's kind of cool to say that Yeah Irrelevant Eve Yeah The night before The day before the pick before That's the night when everyone parties too

And celebrate so It's better to be that pick I guess Yeah Yeah it is The anticipation's still there Mm-hmm For the last pick Mm-hmm

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And we're going to get on a dude that's a big name in this year's draft. And that's your only hint. Give me the AI. We haven't done this in a while. Give me the AI summary of this. Oh, no way. This draft pick. Start the clock.

The AI synopsis. Ten minutes. Ready, steady. Go. AI. standing at 6'2 and weighing 223 pounds. This quarterback dude has made his mark in college football history. He grew up in West Columbia, Texas and played high school football at Columbia High,

where he earned first team all district honors. He is projected as the potential number one overall pick in the 2025 NFL draft after a standout season at Miami, where he won the Manning Award and ACC player of the year, as well as setting the NCAA Division I career touchdown record with 178. First off, I didn't know there was a Manning Award, so we should talk about that what the Manning Award is. Yeah, me neither. So let's talk about that. Let's see what that award is.

I kind of want to win the Manning Award. I love the Manning's. They're hilarious. You have the Manning Award. You're on every commercial. Like post-retirement. You have the Manning Award for, because he's there. The Manning's on every commercial.

Now you're on. I out Manning the Manning's. It should be the Grancowski Award. His rapid development, elite armed talent, and clutch performances have elevated him from a zero-star high school recruit. Zero stars. Zero stars. I got to hear about his journey, man. I didn't know he was a zero-star recruit.

If you're a zero, that's bad. Yeah. And this dude was a zero. You're about to be the first pick. Yeah. About the hell of stars. All right. Elevated him from a zero-star high school recruit to the draft's top quarterback's prospect.

Let's get on. to Cam Ward. Ooh, old Cam Ward. Man. All right, let's get back to that Manning Award real quick. What is the Manning Award? I never heard about it. What's the Manning Award? It's probably an elite award. It's got to be.

College quarterback award, Peyton Manning Award. Peyton Manning did light it up in Tennessee. He did. He lit it up at Tennessee. I mean, all the mannings have lit it up in college and in the NFL, which is just incredible. So I understand why there's a manning award. Yeah, and Cam Ward got it. Mm-hmm. Now, best quarterback in college football.

Without a doubt. It's my understanding. Oh, it's named after Archie. Yeah, it's named after Archie and the whole family. Makes sense because it started in 2004, and I think Peyton was still playing. So, like, you don't really get a Ward named after you until, like, you're totally done with your whole career. But Cam Ward, this guy's a stud. Not like that.

But this guy's made his own path. I mean, going from a zero star to a. what was the first school he went to? Incarnate Word in Texas, FCS. Then he went to Washington State, balled out, entered the draft, didn't like where he was potentially going to go, plays it smart.

Let's make $5 million, Miami, and bets on himself. And now he's going to be the first pick, and it's not even really close. I mean, he reminds me, I heard someone say it, I forgot who said it. He reminds me to Steve McNair, and it's really cool that he's potentially going to be

in Tennessee where Steve McNair, behold. I mean, you look at his, he's always on balance when he's throwing. Like he see his feet and he's always on balancing. He always has his feet with him when he's about to throw. I like his arm. That's good quarterback mechanics. Good quarterback mechanics.

He had that one where he rolls to his left and he flips his hips and he hits the guy in the back of the end zone like across the field, not like way across the field but over the field, but he flipped his hips like a short. shortstop and he slang that thing. Like I always see him with really good feet and he's pretty damn athletic. I think he's going to be a really good football player. I hope that he gets paired up with the play caller that adjust to his game because that's a huge

part to the development of these young quarterbacks. It's the ecosystem that he gets in. So I hope Tennessee has this prepared because, I mean, he ran a 4-8-6-2, not a runner-runner, but he has athleticism. You see him in the pocket. He's very elusive in the pocket. What do you think about this guy? Well, can you just go back reiterating when you said he went into the draft or to the combine?

And he didn't like where he was going to get drafted. And then he went to the University of Miami. So that's something new that I just learned. You can still enter the draft, go to the combine. And if you don't like where you're going to be selected or projected, you can go back to college? Can you explain that to me? That's a rule now? Did he go to the combine?

He went to the combine. How did that happen? He initially entered his name. He entered his name. Decided. All right. No, I'm not going to, I'm not going to draft. I'm going to transfer to Miami.

Okay. Now, was that a, see, was that a negotiation ploy to get more money from a school? Like this, this is like, it's all about leverage. Lverage. It is. So he wanted to John Lowe in college. So he wanted to improve his draft stock and capitalize on NIL, so he's, he decided to transfer to Miami from Washington State.

I mean, that's, that's impressive. And if he was projected as a fifth rounder, I think it was. So his contract would have been like a three year, $5 million deal. So he went back to college, made all that money, NIL money. And now he's projected probably to sign like a $30 to $40 million deal if he's the first pick of the draft. I mean, that's how you count on yourself. That's a guy that knows what he's doing.

because he's been counted out his whole entire life being a zero star from the beginning coming out of high school. So he knew that he could just keep on capitalizing, keep on gaining, keep on improving, you know, and that's why he went back to college to the University of Miami. And here's my story about Cam Moore. I had no clue who Cam Ward was, you know. I don't follow college like that much. You know, you know all the big guys.

I follow the University of Arizona. I watch a couple of games. It's tough. We got to watch a lot of football. We've got to watch a lot of pro football. We'll talk about that. Exactly, Jules. exactly. I know the NFL, know all the guys inside and out, but I just have this game on,

you know, at my house. There's a football game on at my house. And I'm just peeking at it, doing some work, you know, on my computer. And that's what, that's why football is so great as well, because you can just put a game on in the background. And you can just, you know, do peaks and just get entertained real quick, then go back to work, whatever you're doing, hanging out with your friends. It's a little situational stimuli, like, oh, third and eight, cool. Yeah. All right. No. Or fourth and goal. Okay, I'll watch it. Oh, red area target. Oh, shit.

Oh, hell Mary? Okay, end of the game, how merry? Okay, I got to watch this. Hold on one second. He airballed him at a half. Oh, shit. Oh, he sucks. Back to business.

Hey, hey, man. Rolex situation. Oh, my God. Fucking mailman's always late. First and 10, I give no shit, you know, back to work. Let me get my work done. Fourth and goal. Okay.

Let's see what's going on. All right. So I'm just peeking at the game. And there's just quarterback that's just dominating. Like, his, talent level is just that much higher than everyone out on the field. And I'm like, this guy is special. Like this guy looks like an absolute animal, absolute beast.

And it looks like it's high school football because of how talented this guy was compared to everyone else out on the field. So I seen like a big run and I see another big run and I see some crazy pass. And then I didn't really look who was playing. So then he caught my attention that much. I'm like, all right, let me see what team, what team this is. Who's playing? And I look, and it's the University of Miami.

I think it was versus Virginia Tech. And I'm like, this is Division I won football. This is the University of Miami. Well, Cam Ward was making it look so easy out there out on the football field that I thought it was a high school game and some absolute five-star football player just absolutely dominating everybody else. That's how special he was. And I was just peeking at the screen.

And that's when I fell in love with Cam Ward. And I was like, this dude is an absolute. little loot monster out there out in the field. And then I tuned in for rest of the game. And I'm pretty sure it was that Virginia Tech game. It could have been another game, but they were down. He came back threw a bomb, had like a 20-yard run touchdown, you know, and it was just incredible what he was doing out on the field. And then I looked him up right there on the spot. And he was the projected top five pick. And I was like, that makes a lot of sense now. But just that story alone, like to come from a zero-stitch,

to go to the school I don't even, never even heard of, to Washington State, playing a PAC 12 when it was the PAC 12, then go to Miami, bet on himself for one more year. I mean, that's a great story. I can't wait to watch him, but I watch his film. And, like, how he even pats the ball, like Steve McNair. And, like, he's always on balance in the pocket, and he keeps his eyes down the field.

I'm just so, I just hope that, you know, Tennessee can surround this kid and he has an actual shot. You wouldn't want to see that go to waste. I mean, yeah, he holds Miami single season records for yards, 4,400 plus yards, completion. 12 games. 39 TD passes, 67.2 completion percentage. I think that was 1.8% too low, Julian, if you can do that math.

So he was a little down there. I might take him number two overall now, not number one overall. I think he, you know, he slid in the dress, you know. That's pretty quick math. But he has the most career division won touchdowns, 178. So that's combined passing and rushing, correct? It's got to be.

I mean, yeah, for sure. The guy runs like a freak of nature. So he's running touchdowns all over the place. He never looked like he got caught from behind. No, he never did. He doesn't look like he's a burner, but he's a little like Steve McNair. I don't think Steve McNair. ran crazy fast, but you watch Steve, man. He was like, he reminds me of them. It's crazy.

I think Dan Orlowski said something about it on one of his shows. And I was like, and I started watching, I'm like, this motherfucker really does look like Steve McNair. And I loved Air McNair. He was so fun to watch. And McNair played for the Tennessee Titans. I know. Houston Oilers, right? Well, Houston Oilers and Tennessee Titans, both. Something like that, I think. I'm guaranteeing this guy is the number one pick in the draft. Guarantee it? I'm guaranteeing it. All right. I'm taking it. I feel like he solidified it as well at his pro day.

He absolutely dominated his pro day. And I think he should be the number one pick as well. I just love the way that he plays the game. He can throw the ball, he can run the ball. Smart player too. Zero star recruit because he was in a wingtie offense. That's huge part of why he was zero star. That's all like counter shit.

I played against that. Well, that's probably-198 Super Bowl. game against Naperville Redskins. We ain't never seen the wing tea before coming from the west coast of Redwood City went over to the parking lots of Disney World saw these kids running a wingtie in the walkthrough. We're like, what the fuck are we getting into?

And yeah, it's a bunch of guys just running a bunch of different shit all the time. It's very tough. And so it's hard for the quarterback to get any noticed. He only averaged 12 pass attempts. Well, that's probably where he learned how to run the ball. That exactly. Exactly. I mean, this is, this is going to be fun. I'm excited to see. And you don't hear anything bad about him. I haven't heard anything like he's not a problem to be around. Like, regardless of what you want to say about Shador Sanders, people talk about him for being there's something there.

You know, of some kind of something. I haven't heard of any of those kind of stories with Cam Ward. I don't know if that's media shit or this or that. but like he seems to be like a good like liked guy in the locker room. Well, I can tell you this. If you're a zero star, you got to be level headed and you got to be going in the right direction. Because if you're a zero star and you're causing problems in life, you're never going to get any opportunities.

You can be a five star and cause 500 problems in your life, but you're going to keep getting chances. But when you're a zero star, they're just going to overlook you if you have a background of a bad behavior as well. So clearly, you know, the football gods are on his side because he seems like a great dude, you know, and that's why you probably haven't heard anything, you know, intangible about him. So for all your young kids, if you think you're a zero star, you still have a shot

because Cam Ward was a zero star. Now he's about to be the goddamn first pick of the National Football League draft tonight. All right? Time! What kind of dude is Cam Ward? I don't know, Julian. I think you said it right at the beginning, right off the bat. No.

But it was 10 minutes ago or like 20 minutes ago, so I think I forgot. I got hitting the head a lot since I got drafted 15 years ago. And the second round, 40 second pick overall. I can remember that still. I said he was a stud, but he's developed himself into his stud, but he wasn't always a stud. And a stud is always a stud. That's a good point.

Mm-hmm. Okay. Zero stars ain't studs. You know what they are? Dogs? They're fucking dogs. Mm-hmm. Okay?

And he's right up my alley. I was a fucking zero star. Mm-hmm. I was a zero star. That's why you ain't a stud. No. No. Maybe for breakfast you can be a studly muffin, but that's all.

Studley muffin. You're a dog, Julian. You were a zero star. You know what? And that's from the stories we've been talking. Loser. I was a four star. I think I was a two star.

Yeah, you were because if you get an offer, you're automatically a two star. If you go division one. but he didn't go division one. I went to Juco first. I had to go to Juco. Oh, so you were a zero star. Zero.

You know that game? It's either a zero or a one. You were a zero. Well, no, who wasn't a zero? Cam Ward. And we already just declared what he. He's officially on three, one, two, three. Dog.

Dog. Yeah. I mean, the story of him being zero star to what he is, gambling on himself to come back, transfer to Miami. It's honestly, these new stories that are going to be developed with this new rule system, you're going to see a lot of this kind of story, I bet.

Guys that start at a lower level school, dips to another school, then goes to another school. I mean, that's what happens when you're a free agent every year. And you're not really going to see that guy that's Division 2 that's dominating and get drafted really anymore because he's going to get scooped up in the transfer portal now and go Division 1, you know, before his junior and senior year. so you're not really going to see that Cinderella type player anymore, which is kind of disappointing a little bit.

It was always so fun. It's kind of like March Madness. I mean, you got four number one seeds going at it for the final four. Why? Because they're powerhouses. Every single year, they're going to scoop the best players and pay them. It's not like you're going to get the 16th seed and just some random guy that developed late in college, you know, dominating, you know, on some no-name team.

He's going to get scooped up from that no-name team and get paid. and go to a powerhouse program. Leave with the coach. You know, so you're not really going to see that anymore, even in the NFL. So it's basically going to be all Division I guys that are going to be drafted now. I mean, I'm sure there's going to be a select few division two,

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All right. To be able to see if this would ever happen. And because the draft is quickly approaching. Crystal, crystal balls. I think we should do some draft day, crystal ball scenario, what the future holds. situations for this draft class. For this year's rookie draft class? Yeah.

Let's do some crystal ball sounds. Crystal ball, let's go. Ooh. Crystal balls. Snoflakes and stars all over this crystal ball. You said crystal balls. Oh, Crystal balls. It's a crystal ball or crystal balls.

It's just one ball, right, Jules? Just one ball. I like Crystal Jules. Crystal Jules. All right. Let's go. Crystal ball. Travis Hunter will take more defensive snaps than offensive snaps next season.

What does the crystal ball say? All right. Well, I finally figured out the crystal balls or crystal ball is the crystal ball in our brain, jewels. So let me shake it up. I don't think our brains need to be shaking anymore. Well, maybe it'll knock some sense into me this crystal ball. Yeah.

you're right. I shouldn't shake it anymore. I'm kind of like seeing a couple stars. My hat's getting crooked. No, that's not any good. All right. All right. Boom. He will take more snaps on the offensive side of the ball than on the defensive side of the ball. My crystal ball says defense instead of offense. It's weird. Well, we got different crystal balls, Julian, and you didn't even shake your crystal ball up. I shook mine up. I shook mine in my head. No, you didn't shake your up. And when you shake the crystal ball up, that's how it becomes accurate. And you actually get a right reading, you know? So my crystal ball says more offensive snaps. My crystal ball says more defenses snaps. Well, you want to know why he's going to get more offensive snaps because he's going to

go to a team that is more dependent on getting a better offense. So they're going to need them on offense more. They're going to just need them on offense more. That's why. I like that. Yeah. That's what my crystal ball told me. Crystal ball. Crystal ball will rookie Abdul Carter lead the league in sacks. no I only am I have to shake my crystal ball up on this one no it's already reading it no he will not lead the league in sacks he'll have a good rookie year yeah it'll be solid double digits is huge if he gets double digits that's huge my crystal ball still says no I say eight to nine sacks rookie year rookie year you don't really break out like that year what did von miller get his rookie year because I just remember he was a monster I he still is a monster yeah his get off is just

Ron Miller, who was a Super Bowl MVP, had 11 and a half sacks. How many sacks? What was the sack leader that year? What year was it? 2011? Jared Allen had 22 sacks in 2011, and we faced him too. He was on the minosol of the Vikings. Oh my gosh.

So like 22 and a half sacks. Holy Christ. And Von Miller was a really good football player. I'm not taking anything away against some dual Carter. It's just being a rookie. Being a rookie, man, you got... Just being real. He's old...

You get some fucking 11-year tackle on you. You're using all your shit and he's just sitting there swallowing you up. All right, young buck, you done. Let me anger this little motherfucker. Swallowing him up.

Let me pass him. Don't get too wide on them. Don't let them inside, boys. Don't let them inside. You should be an office line, coach. I love offensive line. You meet, too. They just get to eat.

so much food. It's so unfair. Like, I just want to eat 16,000 calories a day and just not gain any weight. Remember they used to just take the wings at, at, at, at, and they just, oh, like Garfield. And just dip them in the most sauce too. They would Garfield. I remember they'd push him down and just Garfield and you'd see a pile of bones. 20 of them a time. I felt like, 20 of them a sitting. 20 wings are sitting. Easy. Easy. Minimum. Minimum. I think that was an hors d'oeuvre. All right, Crystal Ball. One of this year's rookie quarterbacks will lead his team to the playoffs in 2025. 2025 playoff?

So we had two rookie quarterbacks do it last year, Bo Nicks and Daniels. It's not going to be replicated again. My crystal ball says no. That's kind of like a fad. Like the draft class and rookies never really replicate ever. what the year before was. It changes. It just happened to be that this year's draft class,

what, there was two rookies that led their team to the playoffs. So I think it goes in spurts, you know, and it's a rare situation that happens. So I say, no, I don't say the crystal ball says no. So yeah, I think the crystal ball says no for me too. Mine says no. Because, I mean, none of these rookies are going to get drafted to Sean Payton. Like that's a tricky

That's like a sneaky That's like a sneaky great environment To get drafted into They had a really good defense They had a pretty good offense going They had the Russell Wilson thing But like you're getting A Super Bowl winning coach

That has developed quarterbacks Made Tony Romo All that bullshit Like you're going to that situation And then the other situation Where Jane Daniels just is a super freak None of these guys are him I mean, Jane Daniels just had the best rookie football season for a quarterback

since C.J. Stroud, the year before, I guess. And he had a great support staff around him too. He had great, you know, veteran wide receivers. He had Cliff Kingsbury. He knows how to develop quarterbacks, call plays, put everyone in the right situation. Tennessee. Who's their coach, Callahan, offensive line coach? Mm-hmm.

Well, he's from him. He's the son of California. Even if Cammore does have a great rookie year, I just think the team around him isn't built to sustain. I think Tennessee's always sneaky to be able to go to the playoffs. Yeah, nah. Bill Callahan's OC. Tennessee just needs a lot more than just a quarterback as well.

They got to rebuild from the bottom up. I think maybe like two, three years, Tennessee can be legit, but not next year. I agree. You watched them last year. They need players all over the place. You know that their stadium? is like the same as our stadium, the same builder made it or something.

So I remember when we'd ever we'd go play there, it felt like we were kind of at home. Well, that's probably why they got Mike Rable as head coach for New England Patriots because he's already so used to Gillette Stadium because he was the head coach. He did play in the first game at Gillette Stadium.

The same stadium that was built, the stadium that was built by the same people as Gillette Stadium. So that's why he went to Tennessee. So he can get prepared for Gillette. the things you learn from the crystal ball. Wow. Yeah, that was all the crystal ball. Now, next one.

Well, last year's number two pick, Jaden Daniels. Will he have more total touchdowns than his rookie year? So he had 31 total touchdowns. Will he have more? My crystal ball says yes, because Jaden Daniels is a guy that I feel like has, you know, his head on his shoulders. You know, he's going in the right direction. Bro.

He wants to be a better player. He's got the team around him to make him a better player going into his second year. And that's when you usually make a big jump. It's actually from your first year to your second year. That's when I made my huge jump first year to second year. C.J. Stroud is actually like the only quarterback that I've seen kind of like dipped a little bit, but he didn't really dip. Offensive line was poop.

All his weapons were hurt. So yeah, you're right. So that is the only reason why he took a dip. So I say Jaden Daniels picks it up. He goes for more than 31 total touchdown. I agree. Well, Crystal Ball says that. The Crystal Ball says, yeah.

And it's because the Crystal Ball says he's got some of that Lamar shit. Like, where Lamar has done these things where you're like, man, I don't think we'll ever see that again. Then he does more of the next year and then the more of the next year. And like, he's got that kind of playmaking ability. The only thing that scares me with Jane Daniels is will he be able to last? Because he's not a big bone guy. And neither was Lamar. He doesn't take vicious hits and he's so elusive, Jaden Daniels,

but he's still, like, he's still a smaller guy. You know, like, I don't know. It's just crazy. That's the only way the crystal ball is telling me that he doesn't get 31, as if he gets hurt. He just needs to slide. If he slides, he will last. He never takes hits.

He gets out of bounds. I've seen him like six or seven times. He'll juke a guy out of bounds. and then you know you're a lethal runner when every time you juke a guy out of bounds the defender who tried to tackle you daps you up like hey man you got me dog like I've seen it four or five times with fucking jane Daniels

he's getting dapp-ups all the time when he's jockeying up dudes so yeah people love jaden Daniels in Washington and at LSU and he only went to LSU for one year and they claim him like he was there like his whole entire career for the whole five years that he was in college.

They love them. People love them. I mean, college is going to be very much like the NFL where Nick Foles has a fucking statue for Philadelphia for winning one game, one season, you know, and he wasn't like a legendary Philly guy, but he was for that one year, so he'll be a Philly guy forever,

much like Jaden Daniels wasn't, you know, always in LSU, but had a lot of great success there. He'll be remembered forever. You will be claimed. where you make the biggest impact in your career. All right. Crystal ball, last one. I'll take this one since.

No, no, no, no, I got this one. Oh, fine, fine, you got it. Tide end, Tyler. That's why I wanted it. I know, I got to ask you the crystal ball. Oh, okay, okay. Well, let me just snuggle Ralphie real quick. I miss Ralphie.

Such a good boy. I know. Rocky's on my back. He doesn't look like my guy anymore. My guy, I got to talk to this breeder. My guy went gray. said chocolate. Raffi has a couple grays, but he's just taken after his dad.

He literally has the same hair color as me. Rocky, my dog, it's fucking crazy. Dang, where did that gray come from? Keep that hat on, Jules. I thought you got some, like, hair commercials out there, too. I swear I see you on an Instagram ad talking about your hair. It's just gray.

Yeah, I thought you'd take tips from Tom. No, I do actually. Yeah, you're always talking about it. Like, Tom does this with his hair. I'm doing it now, too. And yours is all gray. It looks like he's 20 years old. Well, he hasn't been working for me.

Yeah. Well, maybe he's doing, he's not telling you all the secrets. Yeah, he's the Oeisha. Tom would tell you something that. Chinese powder that I put in my smoothies. He said he's going to make my fucking hair turn brown again. Yeah. I've been taking it for three years.

My shit is gray as fuck. He's got you. You fucking over here. He's got you. Uishi, whatever's it called, Elisha. He's pranking you. Fucking asshole. Crystal ball.

Back to the crystal ball. Tight end. Tyler Warren will be this season. season's Brock Bowers. Oh, is he good? He's a really good tight end. He's like a complete tight end too. He's big.

He's fierce. He's very athletic too. It's impressive seeing his size and like he's taking the, you know, handoffs, I think, out of the backfield for Penn State. I don't know. What's his size? I'm pretty sure he's at least 6.5-260 is, is my understanding? 6-6-257.

So he's my size, brother. And he's, I swear he got some handoffs out of the back. field this year for Penn State and looked like a legitimate like running back running the ball too. So he's super athletic. He I'm, I'm pretty sure he blocks as well. He gets, you know, dirty in the trenches. But he's not a Brock Bowers. He has a different style.

Him and Brock Bowers would compliment each other very well. But Brock Bowers is one of a kind. No one's ever going to replicate what Brock Bowers did last year. Brock Bowers is too smooth with it. Like Brock Bowers was born to run. Brock Bowers was born to go out there and catch 100 passes a year, just his style as a tight end. Tyler Warren has like my type of game more. Like it's not catch 10 balls a game.

You know, I was catch four for 140. Yes, catch four big ones for first down, you know, third and 20. You catch it up the middle, you know, you knock some guys out and you got to last. Like, Brock Bowers doesn't have that pounding game where guys are, you know, he breaks tackles and stuff. but Tyler Warren gets dirty, I feel like. That's his style of play, and that's why I love watching him. But he's not going to have Brock Bowers type season. Let me ask Christopher.

It 24 carries. There you go. So I was right. I was right. Dude, what's up with Penn State always having really great football? He had 104 receptions too. How, maybe I'm wrong about him. Maybe he will have Brock Bowers numbers.

But just his senior year, he had 104 receptions at Penn State. You never hear about even receivers getting 100 receptions in college. It's pro now. It's not college. I know, but you don't even hear about the, like, the big names in college have 100 recepts. That's a big year. That is a big year. They were clearly forced feeding him the rock if he's

getting carries, 100. How many targets did he have? He had 100 or 4 catches. Probably had 160 targets. How many games they have in college? I'm liking this guy more and more. It's 13 targets a game. So he went from 34 to 105. Yeah, yeah, 34 to 105. Wow.

And only, oh my gosh, five catches his freshman year, just 10 is sophomore year. 34 is junior than 105. Are you playing 16 games this year? Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. Man, that's impressive. 10, 12. That is impressive, man.

Holy crap. How many targets did he have? I mean, he couldn't have more than 150 targets. No way. I mean, they didn't throw the ball that much on Penn State. either. Wow. They didn't throw the ball there.

They're kind of more of a running team. Is he a top 10 trap pick, this guy? I haven't seen him in the top 10, but. He's top 15? Yeah, he's top 15. They're going to have two top 15, Penn State's going to have two top 15 picks. Yeah, one DM, one titan.

Penn State had a Super Bowl MVP or an offensive player of the year last year and Saquan Berkeley. Sayquhart, I mean, Penn State, man. How about that? Rich Orrumburger came into the nut house a couple weeks ago. I mean, we have Penn State everywhere. Armberger.

I love that guy. Coach? Funniest offensive alignment in history of the NFL, possibly. So is the yes or no on the crystal ball? He's going to be solid, but just no Brock Bowers. That's a hard season to replicate. It's hard. He can maybe have it his second season.

You know, Brock Bowers is the ideal size, like to go out and do that. Think about this, though. Tyler Warren. So we've had a big dude. It's hard to be a big dude, 260 and have 100 catches in the NFL. The last five years, Rob, we've had. And I'm a Tyler Warren fan.

I'm a huge Tyler Warren fan. No doubt about that. Last five years, we've had Puka Nakua in his rookie year break rookie records. Most catches in the first two weeks. Brock Bowers broke all the tight-end records, catches, yards, whatever. for tight ends

and Jane Daniels broke a bunch of records all that shit they're rookier so like these guys are coming in look at this last five years these things have been

frog leaped now are these guys extraordinary guys or is this going to be the new norm now there's one extra game whatever but still even before that these records weren't like close

close close They were kind of But you know what I mean? It's going to be crazy Well, let's get into the chillest dude of the week Brought to you by our favorite beer Coorslight Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door

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and in his first game. So yeah, maybe he will be the next Brock Bowers. I was wrong. Cheers, but the crystal ball said no. But the crystal ball did say no. You're right. Cheers. To the chillest dude of the week.

And who's the chillest dude of the week? Hmm. This dudes. For some reason, this year's draft. For some reason, draft coverage insights on bringing up tragic and personal things that have

happen to these young football players. But not here. We want to celebrate these dudes. So here are the most positive and heartwarming facts about this year's young studs coming in to the National Football League. Jalen Walker, linebacker out of Georgia, sung the national anthem at college football, basketball, and minor league baseball games. he played the tin man in the Wizard of Oz in high school

and he's projected go 10th overall and he is a viable candidate for rookie skit guy of the year I mean he's going to be entertaining the fuck out of the guys in training camp you know you could sing you can do Wizard of Oz you can dance and do all that shit you better know for a fact it better be on display during those rookie skits and if you're a rookie doing that doing all the rookie skits

the level of respect that you're your you know, teammates garner for you, goes up, like, to the highest level and right away too. It's like overnight. You, you make your teammates laugh at a rookie skit, come bam. They respect you right on the spot. Or if you hit a Mariah Carey High Note and it's a good one, don't be going in there. Don't be going in there not being able to sing. Motherfuckers rules start throwing shit at you.

I've been a guy that I've thrown a couple pencils. It may have, may have, I threw, I think, a pro tractor once because it was in my binder. Like a protractor. Yeah. Man, I haven't used one of those since high school. Or was it the compass? I think it was one of those calculators. What was a T.I. 84, 84 calculator, 83 calculator.

Man. Yeah. How do I remember that? Those calculators were great. I love calculators. Well, what that's going to be. Because I have a calculator right here. I got a T.I.83 right here.

P. is 3.14. That's T.I.83 calculation. There's like a million that go after it. Yeah, I know, but those are the first three. Okay. Those are the first three numbers. all right that's that is that that's a great skill what a positive guy jalen walker 10th overall potentially teratoa mcmillan hey this is my guy university of arizona so let me talk about

let's hear it okay what about this guy 2004 Polynesian player of the year let's go pollies we love pollies i respect all pollies i respect her to their traditions in life as well and I respect their strength. I never actually wanted to ever line my hand up versus Polynesian because they don't necessarily have that weight room strength. They just have that farm strength. They're hard to move. And like it's like hitting a brick wall every time I go versus Polynesian. It hurts, man.

It hurts. They're special with their, with their strength. And I appreciate that. But he's a native Hawaiian descent joined winners like, you know, the, I can't say their last name. To a tongue of Ayalaoa. Yeah, yeah, those brothers. Marriotta and Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson's Hawaiian?

No, he's not Hawaiian. Come on, he's not Polynesians. Jack Wilson, Compono? Kind of tight. I love McMillan's mantra. His mantra, actually. What's his mantra? His mantra is Nalo.

Negative attitudes lose opportunities. What? And if you're an undrafted free agent rookie, if you got negative attitude I'm telling you you're not going to get that opportunity yeah so I like that let's go McMillan let's go at University of Arizona as well

broke all the receiving records there and what's really cool about him is that I tailgated with his family ma'am and their family traditional Polynesian family and some pig yeah they had they had a whole tailgate going all the food that you needed

now I don't recall pig being there Jules dude besides myself I'm a pig But great family as well Just loved everything about them Oh Polynesians are the best When I was a kid

We had a lot of Polynesians In Rhode City Our snack shack The Samoan and Tongan fathers Would all be in the back Of the snack shack Roasting a fucking pig And you would get pig plates

Where you get a piece You get two pieces of pig And we'd be the little kids Going in trying to grab the skin because it was extra salty and it gave us the skin and get out of here, get out of here. But you get pig, you would get macaroni salad and rice. And that was like three bucks or something.

That was like the special at our snack shack. We had a hell of a snack shack at Redwood City. All right. I kind of want to try this snack shack out. Redwood City, baby. The nachos. Bring me. Redwood City nachos.

I want to be a guise. Bring me. It's your guest, Jules. All right. We got another guy. Who we got now, Jules? Even Banks Jr. tackle out of Texas projected late first rounder. Okay.

Started an IG series to set out to find the best barbecue in Austin. Okay, we got a little influencer in there. I can see how. You know, I appreciate him. And I truly want to know I'm actually going to go check out his page to learn about the best barbecue in Austin. Even though I don't really go to Austin that much, but Danny Amandola, Danny dancing, prancing Amandola can now. actually use this guy's tips of to finding the best barbecue

in Austin because that's, you know, where Danny's from. But every time I go to Dallas and visit my brothers, I tell them to order barbecue because they have the best barbecue in Texas. What's it called, you know, the short rib and then

the brisket. The brisket. But then there's burnt brisket. Burn ends. Burnt ends. That's what it is. Burnt ends. And burnt ends takes barbecues to a whole another level. And every time I show up to his house in Dallas, I say, hey, bro, order that barbecue

and make sure you get those burnt ends and all the barbecue sauces that come with it. So I appreciate this guy. I appreciate him big time. All right. And then lastly, Harold Fanon, Jr., tight end out of Bowling Green MacDady himself

cites LeBron James as his biggest influence. He got his childhood bike from LeBron James when LeBron James did a community bike drive in Akron. This has also inspired Harold to want to do the same thing when he goes pro. It's just, you know, shout out to LeBron first off

for helping a kid out to reach his goals. I mean, and inspiring him in a positive direction as well. That's wonderful to see. That's cool. One guy helping another, helping your community. And what's up with these Bowling Green guys? You know, I have a friend, Scotty Miller, wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Matt Daddy.

And he is the biggest LeBron James fan as well. He went to Bowling Green. Ohio kids probably, that's why. Yeah, that's right. These Ohio kids, you're right. I mean, how can you not love LeBron James, especially if you're from Ohio? I mean, makes sense. It does.

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And I've only had half of it so far. And you just only hit the tip of that mountain. Well, that's been another episode of dudes on dudes. What could we do better next episode? We should crack these Coors Lights earlier in the episode, Julian because I'm feeling calm, collective

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