Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Tight Ends: Mega Episode

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

It's all Tight Ends this week! We've compiled every Tight End featured on the show thus far into one special Mega Episode. From the hoopers turned red zone threats to the clutches of playoff performer...s, we're talking about some legendary Tight Ends. We wrap up by naming The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:53 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to dudes on dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. Rob Gernkowski somewhere in the hemisphere doing something somewhere. Who knows what, but we'll be back next week to do the all dudes defense team. But we do have another special episode coming at you this week. Bronx somewhere, we want them here. So we put together all the tight ends we've done so far
Starting point is 00:03:22 and conveniently put them all in one place right here in the Nudhouse, in the hemisphere. And then we wrap up the show by naming the chillest dude of the week. Presented by Coors Light. They're blue. You know what that means? All right, guys, get ready for a whole lot of tight end talk. Let's go. Dudes on Dudes is a production of I Heart Radio.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Let's move on to our first guest. Who's that? Who catches 100 balls every fucking here. Travis fucking Kelsey. This guy's a production machine. What is A I have to say about Travis Michael Kelsey? Start the clock. Now,
Starting point is 00:04:04 Travis Kelsey is widely regarded as one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. Known for his exceptional receiving skills. and athleticism. So far, I agree. I agree. I agree. Off the field, he is seen as a charismatic and dedicated individual. Often praised for his leadership and community involvement.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Kelsey has made a significant impact on the Kansas City Chiefs, helping them secure multiple playoff appearances and a Super Bowl victory. And out AI, not, not, you know, right here. Super Bowl victories. You got to make it Polaro. He got three. Yeah, he's got three. He's in the category.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah, he's got three AI. I mean, what they say? Just Super Bowl victory? I knew we were smarter than AI. They're not there yet. Yeah, Super Bowl and a Super Bowl victory says. All right. He holds several notable records,
Starting point is 00:04:59 including the most consecutive in overall seasons with a thousand receiving yards by a tight end. Recently, Kelsey has been in the spotlight for dating Taylor Swift, co-hosting the popular podcast, New Heights with his brother, Jason Kelsey. Killer. And becoming the chiefs, all-time leader in receptions, surpassing the legendary Tony Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Oh, wow. And there's still a myth about Tony Gonzalez that has not been solved. The urban legend. The urban legend. We're not going to talk about it. We're not going to let that be. This is about Travis. This is about Travis.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Tony, we know that no matter what you are the number one type. in the world because of that myth. Good things coming three with you. Yes. Good thing coming through with Tony Gunz off. Oh, man. Killer Trave, man. Killer, killer, killer, killer, killer,
Starting point is 00:05:49 trap. He's so slippery. He is slippery. That's a good way to put it. Slippery. Smooth. Flexible. Functionalable.
Starting point is 00:05:59 He's got like a very reliable. He's got a very, I remember us talking about it. He just has that basketball body where like he doesn't get hurt. He's always, he's elegantly running when he runs. He's faster than what you think. And he's stronger than what you think. And he's always in the right position.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Always in the right position. He knows how to find an open hole better than any tight end I have ever seen. Finding an open hole? Yeah, in the defense, Julian. Okay. The defense, okay? If it's zone, you can find, you know. The soft spot.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. that's soft spot. The soft spot of the zone. And just sit in it. What about man? Man coverage? Oh, man. He's got great bow routes.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You see him? He got the top of his route. He's so like, like savagy. Yeah, savvy. Savvy. Savvy. Savvy at the top of the route. Like he can go to boom, boom,
Starting point is 00:06:59 like a basketball player dribbling when they're on the top one on one crossing over. Like he's got that. And that's what truly gets them open as well. And that's what makes him a great player is because of his, his knowledge in the zone game. The ability to find the open hole, they'll find where the grass is so he can sit there and Patrick Mahomes can just dump it right to him.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And then also the ability to just be so savvy at top of the route and have that crossover type of skills. And then come, boom, make the DB confused or to safety or the linebacker. That's rare a linebacker on him. To make them confuse what way he's going and boom, he breaks out and he has that separation. He can get that separation because of it.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And when he has that separation, you have a quarterback like Patrick. Mahomes. He's going to find you every single time and put that ball on the money. Can you keep him separated? What's that from? That's a song. Can you keep them separated? Is that? Ooh, dang. Who sings that again? I know who that is. I don't know. I'm getting a tattoo now. I'm getting ink done. That's the same artist, right? I asked for a 13, but they drew a 30 with offspring. Offspring. Yes. Yes. You got to keep them separated.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I think that's the same song, too, isn't it? it? Yeah. Yeah, it is. The offspring. Nah, that. Well, Travis Kelsey is like an offspring. He's different from every tight end. He's one of the best ever to play. That's being an offspring right there. Not a traditional guy. I got to ask you some.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. Ask me, Jules. Ask me and I'll answer. I'm not scared. You ever get sick of people comparing them to you? You know, there's really like not a comparison. I mean, you can compare us, but we're two totally different players to tell you
Starting point is 00:08:38 the truth. And like, it all depends on what type of scheme you're in as well. Yeah. You know, like what they ask him to do with the Kansas City Chiefs, I could not replicate what he's doing with the Chiefs. If you ask him to do what I was doing with the New England Patriots, I don't think he could replicate, he could do it. Like, I could do what he's doing, but I wouldn't have been able to replicate what he's doing with the Chiefs at that level. Yeah. And they know how to use his skill set. We have two totally different skill sets by far. Like, by far, like he's savvy at top of the route. I was, I'm going to run and I'm just going to go to the corner. And I'm going to outrun the guy. I'm going to use my body. I'm going to be physical. And Tom just throw the ball up. And if the guy's
Starting point is 00:09:20 on me, I'm bigger than him. I'm going to use my body, box him out and just go up and catch the freaking ball. All right? Just throw me the ball. There was nothing more to it. This guy has like eight moves. He's like a wide receiver out there. So we're two totally different players. You can compare us because we both to number 87. So that's, that's in comparison right there. But if he fit, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:39 if you brought him to New England pitch, I don't think he would be able to do what I was doing. He would be able to do it, but not to the capable level that I was able to do it at. So we're different players,
Starting point is 00:09:50 man. Yeah. Totally different players. He has mastered his skill set as well, just like I mastered my skill set and what I brought to the table. But, I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:59 I'm not, you know, sick of it. I mean, he's a great player. I mean, he definitely belongs. as the best tight end in the NFL or debatable as being the best tight end in the NFL due to his stats
Starting point is 00:10:10 and what he has done for the position. But, you know, it's just an honor, I guess. It's an honor to be in the same category. Now, what if you guys were both in the same team? I think we would be perfect to be both on the same team. I mean, I feel like we kind of counter each other. There's no doubt about it. Just the way, you know, like I was saying, how we were different players,
Starting point is 00:10:29 his aspect of the game, how he, you know, can line up anywhere, how he can motion to any. any point on the field at any given time. I was kind of the guy like, Tom, though I really got a motion across the line of scrimmage. Like, like sometimes I was in the huddle, like, I'm Tom, I know I got a motion here,
Starting point is 00:10:44 but I'm just going to line up over there, man. I'm like too big to be motioning. Travis is lighter, you know. You can motion him around, you know, set him up. Yeah. I had that happen before. I remember. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 You know, I got a lot of mass. So we would compliment each other, unbelievable. And I would say that we would have been the best duel. I would say one of the best duels to play if we play with each other. Don't you think so? Without a doubt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I mean, we kind of had that. Yeah, we did. I was actually going to say that, that we would have broke the records of me and the other guy. I won't mention names. We broke basically every record in the book when it was him and I, number 85. Yeah. It was, I think he had like two numbers. I think he was 81 at first.
Starting point is 00:11:33 and then number 85. Yeah. So we broke every record in the book for being dual tight ends. Like we had like what, 26 touchdowns at year and like, I don't know, 2,400 yards just between tight ends. Travis Calisian and I together would have definitely matched those numbers or produced even more. Then you at Slat receiver, then Randy Moss out wide? Just there's so much clutchness going on in that.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Who would be our quarterback there? Mahomes or Brady? Or we have them both and one would play? at one half. I got to go Brady. We got to go Brady. I know. I agree.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Because we don't know, I don't know how to play with, we don't know how to play that scramble drill, second play within a play. That was not like our, our forte. So those guys learn that. That scramble drill,
Starting point is 00:12:18 like Travis is always open when there's that second play within the play that Patrick Mahomes creates. And they've got on such a wavelength where he's always in the open position. And he knows where to go. He reads and scans the field. better than anyone. And he always finds open and Mahomes always delivers this to him. So it'd be different.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It'd be very different. Yeah, that second phase of a play. He's got that down to a science on how to get open. I mean, that's due to Patrick Mahomes being able to scramble like that. But Travis is also one of the most clutch players in the history of the NFL. There's no doubt about it. When it comes to playoff performances or a tough regular season game, he has all the numbers. He has all the catches when it's that time to make a play.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And he's swaggy as fuck. He is swaggy. He's smooth. But I swear it's due to the fact that he has that like basketball mentality, the basketball body. Like, yeah, like he's not Jack. He has another dad bod like Patrick Mahomes in a way, but a little bit skinny or a little bit more proportioned dad bod, I would say. But those guys, man, I'm telling you, they don't get hurt. They don't pull muscles.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And it's because they're not tight. And he's not tight at all. And I swear that's what makes him. He's fluid. He's fluid. He's just a word that I'm looking for. He's fluid and pliable. Dude, he's, and people are worried about him right now.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Why? I'm not worried because his production's a little down. Yeah, he had a good game. But I'm not worried until, like, Travis is going to show up when the team needs him in December and January. That's like, that's when, that's when you need him. Okay. He got, he's 34 years old now. He's chilling until that point and he'll turn it on.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And these jokers will probably go out and win again. because he's part of that formula. Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reed, Travis Kelsey, Spags and Chris Jones. And on top of it, he kind of is a complete tight end.
Starting point is 00:14:15 He doesn't get the job done in the trenches. You're not going to put him one on one with a freaking 280 pound defense event. Like, you know, Coach Balochuk loved to do with me in practice and just, you know, get my brains, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:28 just mush every day versus Rob Nikovic and all the other guys. He just loved putting. me versus every single practice and just loved watching me, just bang my head every day and then go out and do it in games. But it was fun. I loved it. That's why I did it and never complained. But, but he gets the job done. You want to know how I describe blocking James Harrison. That's kind of what he does. He's kind of got it down to a science. He gets in the way. He gets in the way. And he knows where the play has to hit. And he knows. That's all you need to do. That's all you need to do. If you got that down to science, which he does, and I've seen him do it. It springs the running back still,
Starting point is 00:15:02 the guy does not make to play. So he's got it down. And tell you the truth. He's a superstar. He's a superstar. He's dating Taylor fucking Swift. And they might have a kid. They should have a kid.
Starting point is 00:15:14 They should. That would be a great kid. It would be a what would kid be performing, like, you know, having eight catches a game. And then like half time he's doing the halftime show in like 15, no, in like 24 years. Probably sooner. Yeah. Taylor was on the scene when she was like 13. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So it would be like the new Ryan Williams. You know how he's 17 years old at Alabama? So their kid would be like 14 in college. They just surpassed like middle school because he's so smart. And then he would go like do a duet with like he would go do something with Cuevo right after. Yeah. So and then it'll be in the league at 18 and then singing and performing at halftime. Top 10 hits and a TikTok song.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Dang, they need to have a kid if that's the case. They got to have a kid. And we would be crazy not to talk about last year's AFC championship game. When all year, all year we kept on hearing people, not me, not me. Chiefs are done. They look old. They look slow. Where's Travis Kelsey?
Starting point is 00:16:18 What are they doing red hot Baltimore? What are they doing red hot Baltimore? He goes 11 catches on 11 targets in the AFC championship. When everyone knows they're throwing him the ball. That's a fucking That's a killer That's why they call him Kill a trap
Starting point is 00:16:36 Clutch One of the most clutch players Of all the time I said that already How about when I first met him My really first time Of truly meeting him I'm like truly truly meet him
Starting point is 00:16:45 He came to Grank Beach man It was really cool He was in Vegas It was in Vegas The draft was in Vegas And he came up to Grunk Beach You were there I was hammered man
Starting point is 00:16:53 I was I was hammered actually It was one of the few times In the last few years Where I was pretty hammed up And I was awesome I'm hand up actually You jump up actually You jumped on my back.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I didn't even care who was on my back. I didn't even care who was on my back. I just started running around on stage, Jules, and you jumped on my back. And all of a sudden, Killetraff shows up, and we're having a dance off on the stage. He can dance. And he can dance. And Rob could dance, but I can dance, like, kind of like, they're my own dance was, but he can, for real dance.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Because, like, we said, he's fluid. He's fluid. I got too muscular, man. I just never worked out, like, the way I worked out, like, in high school and college. Like, I should have been doing, like, more pliability stuff. Yeah, right. Yeah, because that was kind of my model.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Like that was kind of my persona being jacked. Rob, you look like you were a senior in high school playing against fourth graders when you were playing. But imagine. You just fucking. Imagine like if I was looser and I could dance better and still be playing football. You could dance. You dance your own style. You're good.
Starting point is 00:17:49 You're right. I'm the best at dancing my style. Ain't no one can match me. Ain't nobody matching. All right. Time. Let's drop in. What kind of dude is travol.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Travis Kelsey. I mean, like, you kind of just said it already. You hit it right off the bat without even thinking about it, without even going over the categories. I mean, we got freak. I don't really think he's a freak. He's not a freak. Maybe somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:18:12 He's a freak in the sheets, maybe. Freaking the sheets because, you know. But, hey, hey, that's all. That's all I'm going to say. That's how far I'm only going to go. But, but on the football field, like his physical attributes, no, not, not really a freak. like we said dad Bob, but fluid. So, like, a freak is like DK.K. Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Like, that dude's freaky. Yeah, he eats like Cheetos for breakfast and he's got a 19 pack. Yeah, exactly. This guy. A dog. He's definitely a dog. He's definitely motivated. Trab is a dog.
Starting point is 00:18:43 He is. He's a dude too, I bet. I bet. He's so cool. In the locker room guy here. He's a stud. Drink some beers with you. He's a whiz.
Starting point is 00:18:54 He's, that's because he knows how to get open. I wouldn't say he's like a. a true whiz, but he's a whiz at his position, kind of just like myself. Tight ends don't know. We know the whole playbook, but we're not like the smartest, you know, we know what we just need to know.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Rob, you didn't miss up much. Yeah, but like I said, we know what we need to know. Hey, so is he a stud? Is he a stud? He is a stud. He is a stud. He's definitely a stud. But is he a dog.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think it's between stud and dog. I think because he went to Cincinnati and he was a fifth round draft pick or fourth round, third round draft pick. He had the troubles in college with the marijuana bullshit. That's why he dropped to the third. I think that's like. Kind of being more of a dog. That's a dog.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Because if you're getting in trouble for that stuff and you're still going out and performing, studs don't get in trouble for that. Studs don't get in trouble. Studs can get out of it. You've got to be a stud on the field and off the field and order to be label of stud. Yeah. And like getting in trouble for that,
Starting point is 00:19:54 that's kind of a weak thing in trouble but it's also a dog it's a dog you get in trouble a dog goes in its cage and it comes back out that's a dog that's a dog he's a dog dog we'll be right back after this quick break here we go
Starting point is 00:20:10 hey I'm Cal Penn and on my new podcast here we go again we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask why does history keep repeating itself you may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host.
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Starting point is 00:21:05 But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to here we go again with Cal Penn on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them. And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar.
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Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man. With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Jenna World on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's move on to our next guest. So I'm just going to check my, no Instagram live here.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Oh, well, hold on. Let me check mine. Are you off? I have a text message, though. This starts with Dix and inertia wave. What? Yeah. Dix in inertia wave? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:35 What is that? That's the first four words. So, oh, Dix and inertia wave are collaborating with Rob. What is that? A tech? Am I accepting this collaboration? Oh, Dick's sporting good. Yeah, Dick's sporting good.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Oh, Jesus. It says Dix in an inertial wave. Like, this is getting raunchy. But it kind of goes with Shannon Sharper. Shannon Sharper. And his Instagram live. So make sure. Those Instagram lives are turned off right now, ladies and gentlemen, because we don't know what may happen.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Start the clock. What's AI got to say about O'Shannon? Oh, Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp is renowned as one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history, known for his exceptional athleticism and competitive spirit. Off the field, he is admired for his charismatic personality and dedication to community service. That was community service on that Instagram life. It made a lot of people happy. A lot of people happy.
Starting point is 00:27:36 A lot of people got happy. Yeah, they sure did. And entertainment, too. Entertainment. Hey, that's community service. That's serving the community. Yes, it sure is. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:48 They're getting a little out of hand now. Sharp made a significant impact on the Denver Broncos and Baltimore Ravens, winning three Super Bowl titles and becoming a key player in their offenses. He was the first tight end to surpass 10,000 receiving yards. I don't even have 10,000 receiving yards. He's a monster. And this was back in the day. Back in the day.
Starting point is 00:28:05 That's basically. And held the records for most receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns by a tight end at the time of his retirement. Sharp's post-retirement career as a sports analyst has farther solidified his influence in the football world. And he's not just an analyst in the football world either. He's an analyst in all of sports, which he is like, he is broadened his fan base big time by, you know, now breaking down basketball. Basketball. Breaking down,
Starting point is 00:28:35 what badminton if he had to. This guy can do it all in the broadcasting world. When he went up with Skip, him and Skip, he could battle him. He could talk. I mean, there's no, that's, he's famous for a reason, not just his podcast, Uncle Shay Shay and everything that he's got going. This guy's like, he could tell he's a fucking smart. guy. He looks like he can still play.
Starting point is 00:29:04 He sure does. He looks like a linebacker now as well. He looks like he's jacked. He can go out there and just level fools and just get right back up. He is jacked. And I think he posted an Instagram within the year of him benching still. And I think it was like 385. It was around there. Don't quote me the exact way, but it was right around there. And he put it up like five times as well. Jesus. He's huge. Jacked. I watched a lot of the films and the miced up and stuff. Yeah. He could talk some shit too.
Starting point is 00:29:35 He's one of the- Shannon Sharp could talk some shit. He is the biggest shit-talking tight end in NFL history. Without a doubt. No doubt about it. No doubt about that. How about when he came to Foxboro,
Starting point is 00:29:47 one of the old stadium, back in the day, obviously he was playing in the 90s, and he picked up the phone, the red phone. And no one picks up the red phone. No one picks up the phone. You get, you get your ass-busted
Starting point is 00:29:59 if you pick up that phone. Hey, hey, hey, Someone called the president. Where, what did he say exactly? We just, someone called the president. We're killing the Patriots, sending the troops. Man, something like that.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It was right along those lines. Right, right. Yeah, we are killing the Patriots. Someone call the president. We are killing the Patriots. And this is back before, like, talking to the cam. Like now we see players always talking to the camera on the sideline or before a game, pregame, post game.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Like, Shane Sharp was. an innovator of a lot of that. Like when you'd see the guys warming up and the warmups and stuff, he'd always engaged the camera, like, and let you know he's about to run up all over your ass in the game that week and start talking to the
Starting point is 00:30:45 fans. He's fucking crazy. He is crazy. I mean, he has wide receiver bill, because I think he was drafted as a wide receiver as well. Was he? Yeah, he was. And then he put on some weight. Obviously, you got to put on weight if you're dropped it as a wide receiver. Went to the tight end position. But that kind of explains why he was
Starting point is 00:31:01 such a great route runner because he was a receiver coming into the NFL. And that kind of explains why he's so jacked as well because he had that skinny frame. And then he had to hit the weights hard. There's no doubt about it. He has like this downhill speed. Like when he gets going, he catches that ball. He's gone. Gone when he catches, he's gone.
Starting point is 00:31:19 He was athletic as hell. He's a freak. Run by. Yeah, he is a freak. There's no doubt about that. He's low-key kind of a freak. I don't even think we got a debate at the end. I think he's a freak no matter what.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Well, we know he's a freaking. them she is. Yeah, it is. I mean, that Instagram live, back to the Instagram live real quick. Do you think it was set up? I mean, I mean, to get into Instagram live, you have to open up your phone, your face has to be recognized, or you got to put your password, and then you got to hit Instagram. Then you've got to hit like the story button. Then you've got to move over to the right and hit Instagram live. And then when you hit that, it says, are you sure you want to go live? And then you got to hit yes. I mean, I still think it's an accident. Is it an accident? It's an accident. It was an accident.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Was it a girl? Or was he live before? I don't know the story that well. And accidentally put his phone down. I'm not sure. But I mean, it was entertainment. I mean, I didn't listen.
Starting point is 00:32:08 He was getting the job done. I didn't listen either. What a hell of a career. One, what did he won? Three Super Bowls, two at the Broncos and John Elway in that, that late Bronco surge of John's career. And then he went to the Ravens and was part of that founding block of foundation for that organization.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Him and Ray Lewis, like Ray was the guy. that had the team and it was like always they always had like quarterbacks that weren't necessarily like big name quarterbacks it was more of playing to the defense and you know the guy in the offense that was always represented with shannon sharp that's what i remember as a kid when you watch the ravens it was shannon sharp's team on the offense and that's that's crazy the crazy thing about shannon is his brother sterling and in the amount of respect he had for his brother who he had like a what he played how many years he played seven years in the league got cut with the neck injury, got cut short with the neck injury,
Starting point is 00:33:01 he was like tearing up everything, was all pro five times, led the NFL in receptions a few, three years. And it was really cool to hear when Shannon got inducted to the Hall of Fame that he would be the only guy up there in the Hall of Fame that had a brother that was better than him. He said something along those lines. I'm paraphrasing. So you have to give a shout out to Sterling. And he was really good on TV back in the day, too.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Well, shout out to Sterling. well because actually I didn't know any of this has ever occurred. I didn't know that Shannon had a brother. He was a monster. That played in the NFL that thank you for the facts, jewels, thank you for the knowledge. We're always here to learn.
Starting point is 00:33:40 That was pretty cool that you know more about a tight end than, you know, I know about a tight end. So that was cool. It's pretty cool to hear the brother, brother. It is. Like,
Starting point is 00:33:49 he had an older brother. Like, do you have any of those stories where your older brother, like punked you into? Of course. That's why I also think it was really cool that you share that story because I got three older brothers and one younger brother played on their teams growing up, played same football teams in high school and college and didn't remember Dan was on our team.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. The New England Patriots for a little bit. Yeah, big piece. He does have a big piece. And it's dark as well. Yeah. So it's like a double whammy big piece. Double whammy big piece.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, it's tan, I guess. I don't know. That's what I've heard. That's what his wife told me. You're his brother. You've definitely seen his dick. No, no, he's never shown me. I was making fun of him one time and then his wife came in like, well, he has a bigger and darker dick than you.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And I was like, well, I know that, but I'm going to keep making fun of him. Like, I already know that. That's why I am making fun of him so I can make myself feel. But, okay, back to Shannon Sharp, who has a sharp piece. Cool. Why are we all, Jules, why are we talking about this stuff? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I mean, this is dude talk, though. This is dudes on dudes. Like, this is so great because whenever we get off, you know, subject and topic and everything, we can always just blame it on the name of the show. It's just being dudes. And no lie. That's what dudes do, man. Dudes talk about, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Why do dudes talk about piece sizes so much, like when it's just the dudes, like, on the couch watching the game? I don't know. Why is that? I don't know. It always comes back to that. It's weird. Mono e mono. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Fourth leg. The greatest trash talker of all time. I was watching him on the whatever NFL, one of those NFL shows, top 100 shows, wherever. I had the NFL channel on. And someone told Shannon Sharp before, don't quote me exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's just along these lines. They said, hey, Shannon, you want to be famous? You want to be well known? Then don't block. And Shannon Sharp took that to heart. And he went out there and goes, I'm going to go out there and catch passes.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm going to go out there and I'm going to be well known. I'm going to be famous. And I'm going to catch pass this. with touchdowns and get first downs, and that's sure what he did. But he wasn't that bad of a blocker either. He went out there, he got it done. He's kind of one of the first tight ends revolutionized, the tight end position as well, and to open up in offense at the tight end position.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And he's kind of more of a hback titan as well, kind of shorter, more stockier. And he got the job done. He could run. He runs like a deer. He was, I mean, he didn't have all those stats for not being great. I mean, he's a monster. Did you ever watch that cat? William's interview?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Nah, I haven't, but I didn't either, but I just remember the hype of that whole thing. That's what, that's what happened, what? Kat Williams went on like a three-hour rant. I feel like Shannon would be a great time to hang out with, like, back in the day when he was your teammate and you went out to the club with him, he would be a freaking great thing. He would go up and talk to any girl, I bet. He just talks trash 24-7. He would go up.
Starting point is 00:36:48 He'd be in the club talking to like eight girls at once talking garbage about his teammates are hyping you up like better than, hyping you up like your other action. You're hyping you up. Yo, you see my boy over there? You see my boy over there? You see my boy over there? You see that touchdown he had? You see that? He needs a girl like you tonight.
Starting point is 00:37:03 He needs a back massage. He needs some relaxation. We need him ready for next week. Can you please go over there and just sit on his lap? I'm telling him a good-looking guy. I see, I've seen him in the shower too before I'm telling he's looking at him. He's looking at him right over there. Yeah, ultimate hype guy, but I bet you'd be your ultimate hype guy, but I bet you'd be like that.
Starting point is 00:37:20 But he probably, you probably hate playing against him. Like, we never played against him. You probably hate playing. playing against Shannon Sharp. Just because of A, his production, how good he was. And B, he let you know how good he was. Most ripped tight end of all time, too. He's got, he's up there.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Oh, up there. He is the most ripped. Look at him. He's fucking Jack. Jack, biceps freaking sticking out. He loved that Hennessy. I see, I've seen him drinking Hennessy. Is it a bunch, right?
Starting point is 00:37:50 There's always pictures. I swear he'll be working out. I don't know what it is, but this guy. I don't know how he can drink that alcohol and look that great. God touched him. Because he's fucking a monster in a great way. Who were some of the best trash talkers you played against? Oh, Trous Sogs.
Starting point is 00:38:13 He was great. T. Sizzle? Yeah, T. Cisle. Yeah, he does. T. Cissel was great, man. He was a scary player as well. He was massive. T. Cissel loved to talk garbage.
Starting point is 00:38:25 What do he say to you? I mean, it was so long ago Yeah Yeah, it was so long ago Like fuck you, grown Yeah Like just shit like that I'm gonna kill you grown
Starting point is 00:38:33 He loved he loved the talk like Like over the line and over me And just direct it right to Brady Did he always always man He was just directing it right to Tom Every single game And then I'd be in front of him You ain't touching Tom
Starting point is 00:38:45 I'm here I'm chipping your ass You ain't getting to him Yeah But I would never talk garbage back really to him Because he was scary too Yeah he was Gary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 T-s-sizzle. I don't know. Bart Scott said, fuck you to Billy O's. Remember that? In the playoff game? Yeah. Bart Scott.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I remember when Bart Scott went up, right? He was three inches from Billy O'Brien's face and said, fuck you, white boy. And Billy O's T-Kettle, he goes, BART! I love him,
Starting point is 00:39:21 Billy O yells, man. I always got me excited and always got me going. Oh, they beat our ass that game. That was when we were 14 and 10. Yeah, they did. They beat our ass in that division game. Fucking Jets.
Starting point is 00:39:31 We should have never lost that freaking game. What was it? What was the Bart Scott's thing? Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait to lose the next game. Ten minutes is up. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:40 What kind of dude is Shannon Sharp? I mean, freak. Absolutely freak. He's a freak in the weight room. Freak on the field. Freaking the sheets. Just freak on the undisputed show. Freak on serious radio when he was on.
Starting point is 00:39:51 He's been a freak his whole life. He's freaky. He's freaky, freaky, freaky. He's also, he can be dog. Oh, a little bit, but he's more of a freak. He's a freak. He's freaky Friday. That's stamp.
Starting point is 00:40:04 He's a freaky Friday. Freaky Friday. Let's get on George Kittle. Rob, what do you got? What's AI saying? Let's see what AI has today for me. George Kittle, here we go. AI.
Starting point is 00:40:18 George Kittle is known for being an exceptional tight end with a combination of dynamic receiving skills and strong blocking ability. He excels in both the past. passing game and the run game, using his athleticism, speed, and physicality to make plays and create opportunities. Kittle is also recognized for his toughness and versatility, making him a key weapon in the San Francisco 49ers offense. I agree. His ability to gain yards after the catch and his effectiveness as a blocker, make him one of the most well-rounded and impactful tight ends in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Let's start the clock. We already should have. We're two minutes in. Yeah, dude, Kittle, he's like the first of this whole Iowa fucking craze tight ends, isn't he? Who else was in there? Not necessarily. I'm going to kind of throw myself into that category. You want to know why?
Starting point is 00:41:08 You into Iowa? No, I didn't go to Iowa, but you want to know why? Why? My first two years in the NFL? Yeah. My tight end coach? Who? Was Brian Farrantz.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Brian Farrant's offensive coordinator for the Iowa Hawkeyes. I remember Brian Ference. He would always put you up on that board. He was a fun coach. I love Brian Farrantz. I'll still remember to this day some of the lessons he taught me. And first off, he taught me how to block. He's the one who helped make me the blocker of who I was in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:41:36 which is very much what Kittle is. Exactly. And that's why Kittle is an all-around tight end because they emphasize blocking first, no doubt about it. And on top of it, Brian Farrantz many times, always told me, just keep being you, man. You're awesome guy. Keep being you.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's going to get you the places that you would never imagine. So thank you, Coach Farrant. I'll still remember that to this day. What I loved about Coach Ference, he says, when you're nervous, you're ready. And I was nervous coming into this podcast world. And I thought about him again. I thought about him about him every single game I had.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And I was nervous. You're nervous. You're ready. Thank you, Coach Farrantz. You know what? And it's crazy. What Coach Farrants basically said to you is probably everything that, like, kiddle is kind of shoots out on the field.
Starting point is 00:42:21 You know, selfless guy, be yourself, which he's a very charismatic dude. When you think of, like, he's a funny dude. He's the guy who started Tide NU, which is this huge event, which you get to go to all the time. Like, he's a character not just off the field, but he's got that fun, like little kid, like Rob kind of energy, like gronk energy when he's playing because you guys both. Like when you guys both play, it looks like you guys are having the funnest time ever. You know, like you guys like blocking. He loves blocking.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Kittle gets open a lot because of how hard he blocks. It's the truth, man. And if you're a good blocker in the NFL at the tight-in position, you're going to be able to get those easy passes throwing your way. Like, that's the reward for blocking in the NFL. It's a play-action passes when the linebacker step up, the quarterback just dumps it to you after the fake handoff to the running back. And boom, you catch it, you know, eight yards down the field,
Starting point is 00:43:14 and boom, then you just make the safety miss. You can have a 20-yard gain off of a little play-action pass and just keep the chains moving. But here's the question. Miami University was tight on you. back in the day when I was high school. Who was in Iowa? Who?
Starting point is 00:43:28 They had freaking Greg Olson, Jeremy, shocky, Kellynne Winslow, Winslow Jr. Yeah, Winslow Jr. What do you say? I'm a soldier. Yeah, I'm a soldier. And he's like that because you want to know why he said it? Because he absolutely leveled like five guys on one play.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah. And then they asked him about that play. And then he goes, I'm a soldier. He's not taking any shit. He's in war. But they had a couple other guys as well that was going to league that they were sending the backups were getting drafted. Greg Olson.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Greg Olson. I thought I said Greg Olson. You know what? They would never forget Greg Olson. You can't. But that was the tight end you when we were growing up. That was. Tidea and you now really has to be Iowa.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And it's because of the start of this whole thing with Kittle. I mean, Kettle, fifth round draft pick, which is makes it even more impressive. He's a fifth round guy. He wasn't the biggest dude. He wasn't the strongest dude. But he always fucking blocks his nuts off. He's willing to give his body up. He makes big.
Starting point is 00:44:25 time plays for his team when they need it on a crucial third down. He makes red area blocks where he's taking his fucking defensive end and driving him in the end zone. Like he's the guy that you always want to play with. He's that that's the kind of and he's always fun. You could tell he's positive. And he comes from like a lure of family from Iowa. What do you what do you mean, as you can tell he is positive? Like that's just a well known fact that he is a positive guy. Whenever you're around George Kittle, like your aura just lifts up. He's just always looking for the thing out of anything that happens, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:58 He's very optimistic. He's like optimistic, positive thinker. Mm-hmm. You know, and honestly, that's the kind of vibes that you, you gave off when we were in the locker room. There's guys that are hardos. There's guys that are asshole. Like, I was a guy that was like, I had to be in a certain mindset to asshole.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah. I had to be an asshole. Not an asshole, but like I. But you weren't. You weren't an asshole, but you were like. Okay. I made guys a hardo. I was hard.
Starting point is 00:45:23 No, but you weren't that. Just a tad bit because you were, like you said, you were making them accountable. And that's the technique you use to make them accountable. And that's because I worked so hard and it took me a long place to get to where I got. So like, that's what I was like. Then there was guys like Kiddle and yourself that like you guys work insanely hard. You do great in the classroom. But you do it with like a smile on your face.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And you're always happy. Like there's different guys in the locker room. And you, and that's what I feel when I think of like George Kittle. Like guys is just like a positive great. dude to have around, especially with, you know, their locker room. They got so many different charismatic characters there. Like, it's just a great piece. I think he's a freaking baller.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And going back to Iowa and about, and being tight end you, they also had T.J. Hawkinson come out of Iowa. One of the highest paid tight ends in the game. Noah Fant. How do you say his last name? Faint. I don't know. Funt.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Noah Fon. Seattle. He's boss. Yes. Yes. He's a great player. He's huge, man. That dude's huge.
Starting point is 00:46:24 You got Sam LaPorteur, the best rookie last year, went to the Pro Bowl, over 800 yards. I'm sure he's going to have over 1,000 yards on 10 plus TDs this year as well. Give the University of Iowa for this decade, you know, to be known as tight-end you. For sure, for sure. The story about his dad writing him letters before every game, that's pretty hard hitting. Did your pops ever write you anything? No, my pops never wrote me anything like that, but he always motivated me, especially
Starting point is 00:46:53 growing up. He always told me, hey, if you want to be better than everyone else, if you want to get to the next level, you got to outwork everyone. My dad's been selling fitness equipment for over 30 years now. So he put a weight room in the basement and said, hey, hey, you want to make it to the pros, buddy? You want to make it? You want to be able to dunk. You want to be able to block. You want to be able to toss guys around. Well, get your ass in the weight room and get stronger now. You know, he wasn't a hard ass about it, but he always let us that way. Hey, get in the basement now. You want to be strong, get in the basement. You want to whoops some ass, get in the basement. You got to have that. He's got that same, you know, it may be different because he's
Starting point is 00:47:31 getting letters and you're eating weights. You know, it's still that dad kind of love. Like, I had mine in a different way. You always know and hear about him and his relationship with his family. He seems like just a fun dude off off off the field, too. He is a fun. Have you ever hung out? You ever hung out with him at Titan U. And I just met him a couple other times just really quick. and he's always fun, just so positive. And what I love about him, though, is that we are very similar. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:47:58 We have similar game. He's an all-around tight end. And he's the best all-around tight end in the game right now. Blocker. Yes, blocker. Yes, in the receiving game. What I really love about him is he's a W.
Starting point is 00:48:11 WWE fan, bro. And he's an ultimate W.W.E. I'm pretty sure he's done a couple things with W. W.E. I think with WrestleMania. I think his favorite wrestler is like Luca Hana, Luca Hana. He has that vibe to go into wrestling after he's done playing. He always be cutting WWE promos.
Starting point is 00:48:31 He's always upbeat. I mean, he's good at those. He's got great energy. I mean, in order to start national tight end day, he started tight end you while playing. He's got a lot of juice. And that's why people love him. That's why his teammates love him. I mean, I'm sure how many guys do you think he has picked up?
Starting point is 00:48:49 on his team that are down. Don't feel like playing. But there he is. He's there every day. Hey, guys, let's go. Let's go. Let's have fun. Let's go make some plays.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Let's go catch some balls. Let's go do this. Let's go do that. You know, he's just aura is to pick guys up around him. That's a guy you want in your locker. That's a guy you want on your team, especially at the tight end position, the best position in the game. I mean, not bias, you know. I mean, he was a standout on the TV show receiver.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I mean, that's how big of an aura he has for a tight end. Like he went under receiver and pretty much dominated that show. Yep. Not not saying like statistically this, but like his story was like so fun watching on that, him and his family and he's got a crazy sneaker collection. He's a monster. He is a monster.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And it's just he's like a guy that you want to work out with. When you're working out, sometimes you go into the workout and you're like, I got to work out. He's like a James Devlin in the weight room. Yeah, he is. But then you just start working out with him and boom, automatically the switch is switched.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Music is loud. It's like turning the lights on. And you just, when you're around him, you hit that switch up and boom, the lights are on. I bet you he has come out to the weight room song when he goes into the weight room. Like he probably puts on one song, like a wrestling song, like a stone cold. And like that's how I bet he starts his fucking workout because he's so like that. What I don't like about him, though, is he broke my receiving record. Well, Travis Kelsey did two that year, but George Kittle broke my receiving record.
Starting point is 00:50:14 He broke your civil record. Yeah, I had 1,000, 27 yards that one year. And yeah, he broke that. Plus, he had a 200-plus-yard game, which is incredible. As a tight end, that's 200-plus yards. But that's 10 minutes. We got to determine. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Absolute monster. So where do we put him then? What kind of dude is he? What kind of dude is he? A freak, a dog, a whiz, or a dude's dude. I mean, he's kind of a dude's dude. I think so. He's a stud, but like he's so positive.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Like, people don't. Bro, you understand either. He's a freak, bro. This guy is so strong. Pound for a pound for a weight room. he might be the strongest guy on the team. Yeah, he's got that weird leverage strength. I think he does, like, that lifts like 500 plus pounds.
Starting point is 00:50:55 From what I hear, I never worked out with him, but he's mentally, he's got dog in him, but I'm leaning towards dudes, dude. He is a dudes, dude. I got to go with that because he's a locker room guy. Locker room guy. Positive energy. Come cool, collect, always. Always.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I've never seen a bad mic'd up on him. No, I never have, man. Like, I've yelled at referees and I've swore, like, he's just like always like. I actually envy his energy. I want his energy. Oh, wait, time out. Wow. We forgot his pitcher as well.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Jules, I blame that on you. I blame that on you, Jules, because you were the veteran with the pictures on the very first show. That's my bad. And that was my first time. I needed to be reminded. The pitcher is so kid. You forgot.
Starting point is 00:51:37 But there he is, everyone. There he is. That pitcher just exemplifies him. That explains him totally tongue out, having a good old time, smiling with his tongue out. You know how hard that is. to do. Wrestling hair.
Starting point is 00:51:49 It's all greasy. Hasn't showered in a week. Just has dudes all over him from the last practice. Swaggy sneaker. Yeah. I mean, that. Oh, man. George Kittle.
Starting point is 00:52:00 He's a dude's dude. He's a dude. He's a dude. He's a dude. He is on the field off the field. We'll be right back after this quick break. Here we go. Hey, I'm Kelpen.
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Starting point is 00:58:17 Legend. Tall, handsome. Crazy stories about him. You know, crazy stories. Urban legends about like he was. would only have. Al Dubres. El Dubles. We're not saying what the al-dubres mean. I don't even know what that means. What type of al-dubres they were.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But I heard the word in the street was El-Dubres only or nothing. What does El-Dublae mean? Not just one, but two, Jules. El-dublays. He was so good-looking, he wouldn't allow just one. Del DuBlay it is. He would allow two only. I mean, that's just a word on the street.
Starting point is 00:59:01 That's the word on the street. That's the urban myth. And let me tell you, it was my rookie year when I heard that urban myth. And man, that I think it was one of the coolest things I've ever heard. I wanted to be like this guy more than anyone else, man. El DuBlay Tony Gonzalez. I mean, I already kind of know already from the beginning, what category he fits in. But we'll wait until the guy.
Starting point is 00:59:22 What's our co-pilot say, Rob? Let's see what our co-pilot says about Tony. good old Tony Gonzalez. He basically has every record in the record book at number one for a tight end. In a long time. Keep it for the time limit. We'll keep it for the time limit. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Hit the time limit now. We're going to start the time limit when the co-pilot starts. Yeah. That makes sense. Better. We're taking off. Co-pilot. Check your engines.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Check. Engines on. Tony, Gonzalez was a highly skilled and versatile tight end in American football. Known for his exceptional receiving abilities. He was renowned, right? That was the right word again. Renowned.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Hey, they used this word twice now. I mean, you know. That's not good English skills by the eye. That's not good. We're smarter than co-pilot. For his precise route running, reliable hands and athleticism. Over his career, Gonzalez became one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. History.
Starting point is 01:00:25 earning 14 Pro Bowl selections. Let me put this stat into perspective. I've only played 11 football seasons in my career. 14 Pro Bowl selections. Jesus, timeless. Latin don't crack, baby. They don't. And numerous records for receptions and receiving yards at his position,
Starting point is 01:00:42 including the tight end touchdown record as well. I think he has like a hundred, like 26 touchdowns. Actually, no. Tonyo Gates holds that record. Yeah, he does. My bad. But Tony Gonzalez holds every other record. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:55 His ability to contribute. both as a receiver and a blocker made him a key asset to any offense. And that's the truth. He played for two teams. He was an absolute legend with the Kansas City Chiefs. And then he went to like the Atlanta Falcons at like what, 33, 34 years old. And still balled. And still balled at that age.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I remember Coach Belichick, we played the Falcons a couple of times when I was a rookie, second year, third year player. And all he did was circle Tony Gonzalez and said, we have to stop this guy. If we want to win, if we want to have, you know, the bill. to have a chance. If the defense wants to perform well, we have to stop Tony Gonzalez. We got to jam him off the line.
Starting point is 01:01:34 He makes contested catches. So you got to follow through with the play. You know, make sure he doesn't get up and jump over you. Make sure he doesn't turn and get that ball. You got to follow every movie makes from the start of the play to the end of the play. And you got to double cover him.
Starting point is 01:01:49 You got to. You got him. I loved him though because he, I remember at Berkeley. He was playing basketball dunking on dudes. He was a fucking athlete. He's one of the first, like, athletic tight ends, like pure athlete tight ends that the game is seen. He was so smooth.
Starting point is 01:02:07 And he was one of the first ever to start that tradition of, hey, a basketball player, a power forward can play in the NFL at the tight end position. And he played basketball at Cal. So shout out to the pack 10. RIP. RIP. I played in the pack 10. All right. Rest and peace to the whole pack 12 conference.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I didn't get to play in the pack 10, but keep going RP. Yeah. He made it to the Sweet 16 at the University of California. And in 2002, he played in the NBA Summer League as well for the Miami Heat. That's just a type of athlete Tony Gonzalez was. And I feel like that's kind of why he was the player he was. And why he was so durable too, because he had that basketball background. I feel like basketball players sustain their athleticism and skill set way longer than football.
Starting point is 01:02:55 football players. They're way more fluid. They're way more flexible. Flexibility. There's so much more smooth. I feel like it's just. Less muscles sometimes better for that. It is.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And I feel like football players trained well. I mean, trained the wrong way. You trained too hard. We trained too hard. We made us too stiff. And that's what made him the player that he was because he trained like a basketball player.
Starting point is 01:03:16 He always just was smooth always. He always looked smooth. You know, apparently the urban religion is that he's smooth off the field as well. But, you know, whenever you saw him go up and catch a ball, like in slow motion, it almost looked like he was a dancer, like with how effortless and light he was on his feet for such a big dude. And then him always dunking the football on the goalposts is something that I remember
Starting point is 01:03:43 through my childhood and early on in my career when he was at the later part of his career that he did all the time. And kind of like that football, you know, I mean, the basketball transition to the NFL. I feel like the guy was so durable as well. He missed like what, two games in his career? Yeah. Play what? How many seasons?
Starting point is 01:04:01 You only missed two games? 18 seasons? 18, 19, 20. How many seasons? It was something ridiculous. That's insane. It was just nuts. He was just an absolute animal.
Starting point is 01:04:12 So smooth, so athletic. And he was great off the field too. One of the best looking guys I've ever seen. Still. Still to this dance. He still looks like he can play. I was watching him on Thursday night football last. night but he's a he's a great analyst as well you know he just speaks to truth he gives his insight he's
Starting point is 01:04:30 great for amazon uh and he was just looking so he was looking tan shiny handsome he had that white outfit on with like he had like that french kind of thing going hair do was on point oh hair has always been on point Tony Gonzalez has had spectacular it seems like it hasn't colored I bet this guy would walk into a club or bar in middle of his hey days. And he wouldn't even have to say a word. And the freaking janitors would have to come out and put those signs that say, caution, wet.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Don't slip. He is that good looking. Because he got all the girls panties going. There's no doubt he didn't even have to say a word. He would just walk in. That's the type of swag Tony Gonzalez has. He was that good looking and swaggy aura. And it translated.
Starting point is 01:05:26 to the field as well. His play was just like a good looking. Rob, what are some of the things that you tried to emulate from Tony's game? Just overall, he was a complete tight end as well.
Starting point is 01:05:36 It wasn't the greatest blocker of all time, but he did it. He exemplified what being a titan was, you know? He went pancake guys, but he would get in the way. He would move guys. He was willing to block.
Starting point is 01:05:48 That's kind of what made him so great. Just as a kid, Tony Gonzalez was one of my heroes growing up. I remember in Buffalo. when I was there growing up, I was in high school. You know, the bills weren't that good, but there was a chance that Tony Gonzalez was about to get traded to the Buffalo Bills
Starting point is 01:06:06 because he eventually did get traded to the Atlanta Falcons. And there was always talk because he was always on such crappy teams in Kansas City. And he always performed. He always produced. And that's what made him so great. But there was always trade talks as well at end of his career with Kansas City for like five years
Starting point is 01:06:23 because he wanted to go win. And I remember, Our whole entire high school was talking about Tony Gonzalez going to the Buffalo bill. Just how excited we all were because Tony Gonzalez was going to possibly get traded. Could you never happen? Could you imagine high school version of Rob and his boys in Buffalo? Like, Tony Gonzalez is here. We're back to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Yeah, exactly. That was exactly how it went. Oh, my God. It is true. You know, he really did evolve. I think he's one of the huge. figures or guys that help evolve the tight-end position in that 90s window. Now, there was great tight-ins, the Winslows and the dickas in the back of the day.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Like, those were really great tight ends. But, you know, it was kind of like those guys put their hand in the dirt. And, you know, they were just kind of like an extension of the run game that sometimes went out to catch a pass. You know, Tony Gonzalez, he came, like, he became, I remember watching him, which we used to do a lot with you, putting them outside the formation in the red area and saying, hey, we're just going to play jump ball with our tight end. Like, I don't, I don't remember that before Tony Gonzalez. And I'm sure people are going to hit us in the comment sections with a bunch of guys that did. But like for my era of football that I grew up with, that's what I remember. Tony Gonzalez is just
Starting point is 01:07:46 always having the ball in his hand, always doubled, finding a way, like super savvy route runner, like space guy because of basketball, it's very similar to basketball on space. He was great at the space. And then, you know, the guy was just freaking good looking. He was good looking. That was a great way to end that, you know, that phrase of just everything you said about. Could you, he probably be, he'd probably be considered one of the best. Because they say one of the best with Tony Gonzalez.
Starting point is 01:08:18 If he had, if he had a Super Bowl, would he be the best? I feel like that not winning the Super Bowl is definitely. hindering him yeah it kind of sucks because he did everything possible and then more every single year every year it was like for a long time wasn't like he had he had I think he led the league in receptions one year in 2004 102 catches like when was the last time a tight end led the league in receptions and like the next year he would have 95 receptions the next year he would edit 85 the next year he would have whatever 90 more again like he was so freaking consistent and he never would have won a championship.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Like, that's a tough situation to be in. That's sad. That kind of sucks as a player to play that long and be that consistent and just never been on the right team. Yeah. You know, he kind of almost won one with Atlanta. I think they went,
Starting point is 01:09:11 you know, to the playoffs a couple of times. Yeah. But that was when we were in our era. You weren't going to beat us Patriots. No. But that just sucks having little team success and always just giving it your all and always showing up.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And it's hindering him. I would say in the tight end rankings, you know, people say, oh, Grank, which myself, Kelsey, you know, I mean, Tony Gonzalez is always up there, but I see people not put them in their top five before. Like, you know, there's Antonio Gates. And Mike Dicca, they say, you know. Winslow.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Yeah, Winslow. But Tony Gonzalez exemplified what being a tight end is. He's the one. Especially nowadays. He's the one that made being. a tight end cool to younger kids like myself. I mean, he was such a badass in Kansas City. His rookie year, he had a flu game, a Jordan-type flu game
Starting point is 01:10:06 where he bawled the fuck out, managed to catch a touchdown pass, and he created the performance to eating some chicken soup. Like, how smooth is this guy? Well, what food gives you superpower, Jules? Chicken soup was Tony Gonzalez's superpower. I would say tomato soup. I'm more of a tomato soup. I feel like you were the English muffin with sausage.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Egg cheese, sausage, English muffin. I remember every single day you ate that and it was like giving you your superpower. I'd have a smoothie at 5 and then I'd have my right before team eating, sausage egg and cheese. Yeah, that's what it is. That was your super powerful. Love a sausage. Tomato soup.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I never seen you have tomato soup, buddy. I love tomato soup. Yeah, I never seen you eat it. But I was just trying to reference because of soup. Yeah, but you never eat tomato soup. Did you have a favorite pregame soup superpower? Yeah, I did. I always had my chocolate milk with a peanut butter and jelly,
Starting point is 01:11:03 and the jelly was my mom's homemade jelly. What's the homemade jelly? What kind of fruit? Strawberry. Strawberry jam? Your mom-made homemade jam? Yeah, it's the best strawberry jelly ever. I remember she came over with that chicken buffalo dip or whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:18 That was good. With rich crackers, and that's what you dip it in? She made that as well. Stop talking about my mom. Let's get on to, let's get on to, That's what dudes do though Do you talk about moms though I mean, so
Starting point is 01:11:29 I guess so, I mean, you're giving her props So I guess you can keep talking about my mom I ain't saying anything sideways About mama wrong But I know where you go Anything I know where you go Get out of here I'm Mrs. Lellman, I love her
Starting point is 01:11:42 I just saw her remember at the live show Yeah That was cool But your dad was there So I couldn't get a little inappropriate 10 minutes So 10 minutes is up And what kind of dude is Tony Gonzalez?
Starting point is 01:11:52 This one was easy. I mean, he's like I said, he's a dude's dude. You know, he's a dog. He's a freak. But the most, you know, the most characteristic that Tony Gonzalez exemplifies is definitely on and off the field big time. Like, no doubt about it. He's a fricking stud. He's a stud.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Stud at everything he does. Basketball, football, analyst. Breaking every record. Bar settings. He's probably a stud. Yeah. Super stud. Super stud. He's like that horse that you like, you know, you go out and you made it. Yeah, you get that stud come.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Yeah. He's a stud. He's a stud horse. I wonder if he has a thing as big as a horse too. Because, yeah, he's a stud. I'm not kind of trying to imagine that, but I would probably say so. But you just imagined it. I would probably say so. That's just Tony. He's just stud muffin.
Starting point is 01:12:56 He's like every muffin too. Stud muffin. He's a blueberry muffin. He's a cinnamon muffin. He's the regular muffin. What other muffins are there? I like a lemon poppy seed. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:06 lemon poppy seed. He makes those girls like feel like they're numb. Yeah. Because that's what poppy seeds do, don't they? They give you a high, like morphine high. I think that's where they make heroin from.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah. I don't think that's from the muffin, though. No, it's from the poppy seeds. Yeah, but like, I think there's like a real extensive. That's why he's a lemon poppy seed. Yeah, but he is the extraction. All right. Let's get on to our next.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Let's our next. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bum, bum, bum. Put up the head shot. Ladies and gentlemen, our next tight end here on National Tidens Day, who also started Tideon, you at Vanderbilt University every year that I went one time because I failed after I went because it's the Harvard of the South. Hard, hard place. Yeah, it's a hard place.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Very beautiful, I heard. Never been. It is. Greg Olson. Greg Olson. Greg Olson. What is the, what does AI say about Greg Olson? All right.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Greg Olson. Start the clock. Greg Ocean. Oh, ocean. I like that. Yeah, well, his hair looks like an ocean. It's all over the place. It kind of looks like a hurricane.
Starting point is 01:14:22 All right. All right, Greg. Greg Olson is celebrated as one of the top tight ends in NFL history, known for his reliable hands. We were talking about that early. He's the most reliable hands in the NFL. This guy had hands. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 01:14:36 And route running skills. Off the field, he has admired for his dedication to family and philanthropy, particularly through his heart test yard initiative. Heart test yard initiative. Heart test. That's a handful. That's a handful. Hard test.
Starting point is 01:14:54 That's a heart, heart test? Heart test. Yeah. Oh, heart. All right. Particularly through his heart test yard initiative.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I like that. Which supports families of children with congenital heart. Congenital. Like we said, everyone, we don't have the best vocabulary. This is dudes on dudes. We're learning as we go.
Starting point is 01:15:16 We're not perfect here, but we get numbers right, okay? We get numbers right. What is AI is based saying, he's for the kids. Yeah, we're for the kids. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Olson made a significant impact on the Carolina Panthers, helping them reach Super Bowl 50 in becoming the first tight end in history to have three consecutive 1,000-yard receiving seasons from 2014 to 2016. Wow. He holds the Panthers franchise records for most receiving yards. He's lucky I got hurt because I would have held that three,
Starting point is 01:15:46 1,000 yard seasons in a row. But it's not about me. It's not about it. Why am I making about me? Tard ends don't make it about yourself. Slot receivers do. Yeah, slap receivers do. You guys do.
Starting point is 01:15:55 It's our little diva in us. Because we're not full diva, but we got a little diva. It's about Greg Olson here. Heels of Panthers franchise records for most receiving yards, receptions, and a hundred yard receiving games by a tight end. After retiring, Olson transitioned to a successful career in sports broadcasting. He's one of our teammates right now with the Fox team. He's really good.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Furter showcasing his football acumen. He does have a lot of football acumen. I can tell you that. What is that like? Like knowledge. Knowledge. Another word for knowledge. Cinnamon for knowledge.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Not a synonymous. Synonymous. Sinonymous. Yeah. Cinnamon. Cinnamon. Yeah. Cinnamon.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I like cinnamon. He's tasty. He's tasty. Yeah. Okay. No. Wow. This is bad, Joel.
Starting point is 01:16:39 This is bad. This is just being dudes. This is what it's all about. Dudes just being dudes and just showing you who you are. We're not perfect. It's cinnamon, bro. Yes. Cinnamon.
Starting point is 01:16:49 That's same now. For now on. Yeah. For now on. is a the english dictionary better change that word to the cinnamon cinnamon cinnamon now uh well you want to know what acumen means i kind of know that from back of my head i was reading a book the other day had the word it's the ability to make good judgments and quick decisions and that actually explains greg olson in his game and that's why he had over a thousand yards in three seasons in a row because of his
Starting point is 01:17:17 quick decisions and when you're really quick at top of the route when you have a two-way go like Greg Olson, his favorite route of all time. He kind of runs kind of like diagonally that to like the 10 yard mark where he has to go. And then the linebacker is sitting there to safety. And you got to either split right like a bow or split in. What's the split in route where you like a middle read. No, no, no, not a middle read like kind of like a cross. No, no.
Starting point is 01:17:37 You go and it's like a angle, a angle route. But it's at between a 10 yards and 12 yards. You can either bow it or angle it like an angle at 10. Bill read. Yeah. No, because it's not a middle read because you still. A middle read is when it's post double. safety high and he didn't go in the middle. So he was so good at making that decision and being
Starting point is 01:17:55 decisive of should he go out on the guy on the defender or should you go in and that's where he made his bread and money. Bread and money. You just went full Will Ferrell in old old school right there. Did you guys see that? Did you guys see that? That's his acumen. That's his acumen. He literally just went. Will Ferrell in old school at the fucking last thing. where he competes the debate. Did you black out right there? I did black out. And like old school,
Starting point is 01:18:28 welfare was blacked out many times. Frank the fucking tank. No, Greg Olson, I mean, we threw on that film. And he's a lot more athletic than you remember. He wasn't like a guy that was going to kill you with his athleticism, but he had such great hands.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Like he would go up and make those one-handers. He did a lot of one-hander catches. he had great ball skills. And he was a very savvy guy as well. And he wasn't like he was small guy. He's 6-5, 255 out of the U. What's up with the U and the tight ends? Tighten to you, man.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Is that what? They were called tight-in-you, man. When I was a kid, Miami. Miami was probably, who's tied-in-you now? Iowa is tight-on-you now, boy, the University of Miami. Oh, my gosh, they're producing tight-ends left and right, man. Shockey. I love Miami-old.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Olson, Bubba Franks, Djoku. Oh, my gosh. Josh. Joku was like the new new school version of Tideon U at the University of Miami. But man, who were they producing tight ends, man? University of Miami was, ooh, they were on point. And he was, he was a track star in high school. Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Javelin. Javelin. Maybe that's why he was so good with his hands because he was always using his hands and track. Throwing it? Yeah, just throwing like holding, you know, that javelin stick. I've never met a javeliner. Yeah. I guess I have.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Like, what do you do? How do you throw it? That's called a shake wake. Oh, shake weight. Oh, that's a shake weight. Never threw a javelin before, you know? It's just like the spear. Oh.
Starting point is 01:20:01 They throw. All right. It's like a football throw. I bet you can throw a football for it? Like being a gladiator and throwing that spear and just boom, toss it 40 yards. Exactly. Mm-hmm. That's been like in, so he did javelin.
Starting point is 01:20:15 I mean, the first thing you think of of Greg Olson, look at that. Oh, look at that. Look at that. That's a good technique. He's young. Look at that face. He's beautiful. He got that.
Starting point is 01:20:28 He was defined in high school. I don't know what happened. Like, he's like one of those tight ends with a dad body again. That's what made him last long. He lasted long. He lasted long. But he was jacked in high school. He hit me up during that 3,000 yard or the 3,000 yard seasons.
Starting point is 01:20:47 He broke his foot and I broke my foot. And I remember us communicating over the Jones fracture. That was the first time I ever got, you know, a call from him. And to watch him on TV, he's killing the TV. He's really knowledgeable about the game. He, uh, he's fun. He's got that little dorkiness in him. He does.
Starting point is 01:21:07 He's got that little dorky like that. He plays it. He plays it off. He plays it off really well. He plays, he's a fun guy to be around. He is. And he is who he is. Like, he expresses who he is.
Starting point is 01:21:18 It doesn't matter, man. That's why you. love him, man. That's what you love about people. He's not hiding himself at all. Never. No, never. And I trained with him, actually. I remember what was really cool is that I was coming out of the University of Arizona and we had the same agent, Drew Rosenhouse. And Drew Rosenhouse had me called Greg Olson. He was the only player I called to ask about Drew Rosenhaus and also ask about the training process of training for the combine and all that. And I remember Greg Olson did give me some great advice, man. He said, hey, you're going to think all the little details are stupid, but
Starting point is 01:21:50 sure you do them all because those are actually the biggest things in the end. And I still remember that to this day that he goes, do all the warmups, all the recovery things that you got to do after you trained all day. He says, just do all the details of the little things and you will be fine. So thank you, Greg, for the advice, man.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I remember talking to you on the phone and just the advice of going through the NFL process. He was the only player I talked to through that time. So good dude, man, good dude. Wasn't, you know, looking out for himself, but he was looking out for me on that phone. call, which was cool. You think he called Bledsoe after Brady replaced him?
Starting point is 01:22:28 I'm in Rose mode. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, hey, Julian. I'm in roast mode. Did he call Bledsoe? But, oh, because Bledsoe got replaced by time. There you go.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Sorry. I'm a tight end. We're a little slow, okay? Tight ends are sometimes a little. little bit slower, but where personalities are just freaking awesome. We are the coolest players on the field. I mean, we really are. Name it tight end that isn't cool.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Exactly. You can't. You're thinking about it. That means they really are. They really are. You want to know who's really cool? Dallas Goddard. I was hanging out with him at Tighten,
Starting point is 01:23:09 you when I was actually smart enough to go because it's the hybrid of the South like we were talking about. And like, I was just hanging out with him. I didn't even know who he was. I like, I know who Dallas Goddard was, But I had no clue what Dallas gotter ever looked like.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And like this dude had the hair flowing everything. I was talking to him. Like this dude, cool as shit. And then like two days later, I saw a picture of us online. And it says like Dallas Godder and Rob Granckegger got it. I was like, oh, my freaking God, I didn't even know that was Dallas got it. Guys running 70-yard touchdown. I just thought he was coolest shit.
Starting point is 01:23:40 And that's what tight ends are. And Greg Olson's the epitome of that. Just cool as shit. Yeah, he is cool as shit. Just cool as shit. Athletic. he had kind of that basketball stuff. He wasn't a burner.
Starting point is 01:23:52 He had great hands. He made big plays for his team. He went to a Super Bowl. He's got crazy stats. You know, he had the 3,000-yard seasons. What attribute, the best attribute or characteristic that Greg Olson contained in his pocket? His secret weapon was his route running skills. He's route running.
Starting point is 01:24:14 His route running skills, one of the best in the game at the game. the tight end position. He'd like loo you. I always see him hitting that bow route. He'd marry his, his routes together. Remember he was really good at that bow route? Remember that cover four?
Starting point is 01:24:28 I always see him hit it in like the fringe shot where you're right, right outside the red area, the 20. And they'd always run that, they'd get cover four and they'd run that post and he'd run that bow route. And they'd hit him on that. I remember seeing that one, we installed something.
Starting point is 01:24:46 We stole it from them. because we were copying it. We liked the way they ran it. And he'd run that bow route and he caught it right on that one yard line. He's really, I mean, he's just, he's a, he's an awesome guy. Did he doesn't, he doesn't care about his looks. He doesn't care about like what's going on out there. He just cares about being a good dude.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Being a family man. And that's why I love him, man. I love being around him. He's always so positive. And he can also, by the way, when I, when I train with him when I was young, too, the guy just never stopped talking. never stopped talking and it was always the best it was always entertaining and literally from the first day i met him i was like this guy is going to be a commentator one day he's going to be an announcer and then he actually landed perfectly in that spot after his football career and when he signed with fox
Starting point is 01:25:33 too and i think it was like the first year he signed with fox was like the first year i did when i first retired i did a couple games as well and i was literally just thinking my mind just talking to him this guy has landed in in the perfect field for him like he's so good at it Storyteller. So intelligent. Yeah, great storyteller. And he looks like Grizzly Adams a little bit.
Starting point is 01:25:51 He's got an under, he's got an under, under, under, under what is, he's got an underrated chin. If Grizzly Adams did have a beard. Yeah. Happy Gilmore.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Coming out, number two's coming out soon. A little mad at Sandler for not hitting this up. I know. Isn't you a New England guy? No. Adam Sandler, New England guy?
Starting point is 01:26:11 He's from New Hampshire. New England players. But his family grew up in, like I don't get it. New York. Like, And that's my favorite movie of all time. Yeah, he is in it.
Starting point is 01:26:19 We didn't get hit up. We didn't get hit up. I mean, I can't hate on Travis being in. I can't either. Travis is freaking Travis. I mean, he's top of his game. On the field, off the field. Like, I'm just disappointed and Happy Gomor productions, I guess.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Or what is it? Billy Madison. Happy Madison. Happy Madison. Well, now we're giving him shoutouts and he didn't even want us in his movie. I know. I know. We got no hate, Jules.
Starting point is 01:26:41 No. We still love him. And we're still going to watch Happy Gailmore, too. Oh, without a doubt. No doubt about it. And Happy Gilmore is still my favorite movie. I actually watched it about three weeks ago. It was on TV and I never turn it off.
Starting point is 01:26:52 This is why I loved about Greg Olson, too. He said he talked a lot. He does talk a lot. And that kind of explains why he came out with a rap song. And it was good. It was really good. It was really awesome and explained a lot of details on how they lived life at the University of Miami, which was really cool.
Starting point is 01:27:09 I was a big fan, no doubt about it. You were probably a big fan as well. I never listened to it on my eye. I lied right there fully. but it was called the seventh floor crew rap. Yes, and it was a legendary rap song by some of the Miami players in 2003. And they were just doing it, I think, as a joke from what I've heard Greg Olson say before, like just to have fun and it just blew up out of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:27:32 But it kind of made, you know, the universe of Miami even more, you know, prominent in my mind, especially at the tight end position. One of his, I think what was his name was third leg, Greg? was his name third third leg Greg well scary weather was in it yeah scary weather third leg Greg his name was
Starting point is 01:27:55 and John Beeson oh he was a beast man he was a beast linebacker we got to listen to that yeah we do we'll put it out on Insta and we want to hear what you guys say in the crowd Robert would your rap name be
Starting point is 01:28:08 kind of think I've said it plenty of times before it's kind of easy basic Robbie G the one and only Robin G. Robbie G. The one and only? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Robby G. The one and only. Kind of a long name though. So maybe that's not it. I think my name would be like the Jewelster. Nah, it'd be. The squirrelster. Young squirrel j.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I want a better name though. Robert G. The one and only is too long. Come on, Jules. I just went three young, young school J. Yeah, that's quick and easy. Right to the point. Young Big Piece.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah, young big piece. You just throw young in front of anything. It could be. Mr. Big Peace. Young big piece. Because I carry a massive gun with me. I'm dangerous. It's loaded.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Yeah, it's loaded. It's National Tide End Day. People want to rob me. All right. All right. Let's do. We got a rap name, Generator, to find the perfect rab date for Rob. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:59 What's your favorite TV character? Oh, we'll go with SpongeBob. SpongeBob. Oh, this is going to be a gangster name. Your real life first name. Robert. Robert. Your real life last name.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Grancoski. the name of a criminal uh whittie bulger whitey bulger something really pleasant uh bulldog because i have a french bulldog so you can't write french bulldog and you can't write the name ralph you've got to like let them know and bulldog's pretty aggressive because rappers like bulldog so this is going to be aggressive name i like i like this i like this an adjective to describe you and your music i want this i want this name like gangs. I want it to be hired. So I would just say rap. Rap? I like that. Because we're going for a rap name anyway. So. And your name of your favorite
Starting point is 01:29:52 child. Oh, Junior. Junior. I had a dog. I had a dog named Junior. It was, um, what are those dogs? A pug. Pug. Pug named junior. Let's see. Yeah. Bulldog grong. I guess we're just sticking with the one and only. Robbie G. The one and only. I'm Robbie G. the one and only. If you don't know me, I'm sorry if you want to, I don't want to say the rest because it's very, it's very inappropriate. That's why I stopped the first time. Time's up. What kind of dude is Greg Olson? Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:23 I mean, he's not, he's a freak, but he's not a freak. He's not a freak. He's kind of got that, you know. He's definitely a dude's dude. He is a dude's definitely maybe a whiz. He is a whiz as well because that knowledge, that's why he's such a great commentator. And he's also a stud. He was a first round draft pick.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Yeah, he was a first round draft pick to the Chicago Barrier. It's kind of a slow start. They traded him to the Panthers. But, you know, everyone has a slow start when they get to the NFL. Not everyone, but a lot of guys do. But it's okay. He picked it up in Carolina. But, uh...
Starting point is 01:30:52 So what are the two that you were leaning on? I'm going to go with Wiz, dudes, dude. Kind of a stud in a way, because he's a stud. He just owns whatever, you know. He just owns himself. He does. Blonde hair, 6-5, blue eye. He is.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Like, you see that javelin picture? He looks like you should be on a Wheaties box. I'm going to go with. want to go with whiz, though. We haven't had many whizs. And he's a whiz because of his knowledge and just a way he can explain anything, break down anything, to be able to get open in
Starting point is 01:31:22 many circumstances on the field. And he's a smart player. He was clutch. He was clutch for his team. He was clutch for his team. Gotta love some tight end talk. A bunch of tight ends. You know what I mean? Now it's time for everyone's
Starting point is 01:31:39 favorite segment. Let's get into the chillest due to the week. Brought to you by our favorite beer Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes. Celebrate responsibly. This week's chillest dude of the week.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson. Ball coach got to work with them. One of the smartest football minds of all time. National champion in college with one of the most memorable college runs, the U started that and then transitioned and went to the Cowboys and had the success he had with that three. I mean, he made those teams too.
Starting point is 01:32:30 He was the GM. He talks. I mean, I get to sit and talk with him a lot. And he's been such an awesome. He gave me a nugget. He gave me a nugget. so coach jimmy thank you so much we were at we went to the chief's practice and uh we were in production meeting for the pregame show and something came up and he goes he goes he's just he threw me a nugget
Starting point is 01:32:59 by say hey jules just uh we remember we we spoke with vich say talk about how he loved juju like he gave me something like that i didn't really i was watching practice and just infatuated your practice. Jimmy was watching the practice to bring to the show, which I kind, you know, I was doing, but, you know, he put me in the right lane to pull from my experience and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, he's been such a good, dude. He's there early. He's, like, the first one there. Jimmy Johnson, one of the first, like, he gets up at, like a ball coach. They get up, they check the weather. They get up at like 4 a.m. to check the weather, go over their game plan,
Starting point is 01:33:42 because he's the coach of the, you know, of the crew. It's fun. And he's just got such an awesome, lovable personality. He'll throw a fucking, he throws these little jabs and these little left field throws, like in the joke room and stuff. Like, he's just, he's just such a, he was, it's been so cool. I only worked with him two years. But, you know, I've watched him forever.
Starting point is 01:34:04 I am a fan of the game. and he's this week and and he's been such a huge part of the national football league college football football in general so man kudos to coach for retirement i want to give a cheers but i i just popped up in my head because when we're out fox i guess i guess jimmy retired last year and they were they were saying so and terry they just you know they're boys it's like Terry's over here like oh we're going to do another one or I think he left the the retirement when he found out he he had a retirement thing and Terry's like is this another one like I had to leave last like it's it's fucking comical it's awesome and I love these guys
Starting point is 01:34:53 and I love coach cheers to coach enjoy retirement I'm sure you won't be that far I'm sure you'll have some capacity of some form we got to get you a podcast coach let's get you a podcast All right. Love you, Coach Jimmy. That was the chillest dude of the week. Thanks to our favorite beer, Coors Light. Get Coors delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes celebrate responsibly.
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