Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Training Camp

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Training camp is heating up! The pads are on and preseason games are kicking off, so Rob & Jules are here to break it all down. Jules recaps his visit to Patriots training camp, we get into some b...ig news from around the league, and we break down the first episode of Hard Knocks. We finish up by looking into our Crystal Balls for some season long predictions in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Catch the Dudes Live at GRONK & JULES PRESENT WELCOME TO THE NUTHOUSE! August 28th at MGM Music Hall at Fenway in Boston. Tickets are moving fast!  Get Tickets Here!Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 Braves. Could you imagine Bill doing that? Welcome to dudes on dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Grancowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes talk about their favorite dudes. We're talking. Julian paid a visit to Patriots Training Camp, the NFL season predictions,
Starting point is 00:02:46 and the NFL preseason is kicking off right around the corner. Then we wrap it up with the chillest dude of the week presented by Cores Like. Let's go. Dudes on Dude is a production of IHeart Radio. Jules, what's going on with your neck? What happened right there? What is that? Like...
Starting point is 00:03:06 What's that called that little, it's not a band-aid. This is an incision. An incision mark that's covered up. What happened? Yeah, the bandage. What's going on? What's going on? I had a disc replacement surgery on my C-6-C-7 vertebrae.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So since I've been playing, I had my shoulder redone. Right into my going into my final year. Remember when I had the AC joint. they fixed that and I started getting pain in the back of my my shoulder or back of my shoulder from there on I always had kind of a little ache and uh it's been going on for like five years i've been bitching and complaining about my shoulder i keep on thinking ah it's just because this goddamn shoulder reconstruction surgery finally go see neil elitrash out in l-a he's the shoulder guy and he goes this ain't your shoulder it's your fucking neck so i go and i'm like what you mean it's my
Starting point is 00:04:04 neck he goes well you know there's a bunch of nerves that hit up on your neck they could shoot signals down to your tricep your hand which i was starting to get my hand numb my tricep was starting to tingle and i winley finally saw him got an MRI and they're like yeah you have a full degenerated uh disc space whatever you we need to get you uh how's your pain and i'm like i'm in kind of pain but not a lot of pain anytime i drive or i sit and do nothing that's kind of when i feel it when i'm active, it kind of warms up. So I went on protozone and it, you know, they put me on a steroid, which is like an oral steroid. You take like six pills and five, four, three, two, one to try to get the inflammation down. We do that. It feels better. And I go and do that goddamn movie,
Starting point is 00:04:52 a movie in Atlanta. A movie. A movie. Not that movie, but a movie. A movie. And I was there, I took a flight to Atlanta. Atlanta's a sneaky far flight from California. It's sneaky far. It's a sneaky four hour. It's not like, you know, I thought we were going to Texas or something. You get two and a half. You're there.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I sleep weird on the way back and I wake up and like my neck is like on fire or my shoulder blade is on fire. And so go get a fucking epidural. Go to Europe. And then all of a sudden my tricep turns off and like, I'm like, oh shit. So I go and see, you know, Dr. Bay, he's a neck specialist out here. And he basically says, yeah, we got to get this thing operated on ASAP because the longer that nerves off, your disc probably is, you know, it's on a motor nerve. The longer that's off, the longer it's going to be to get it back.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And so I find out literally Friday that I, about this. And they're like, we got to get you in like ASAP. I get the surgery yesterday, Tuesday. and feel pretty great. I'm pain free. I just can't twist my neck. But, you know, here in the Nuthouse, we podcast hurt, okay? You know, I played with broken feet, broken arms, torn root meniscus.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I can fucking, I can talk with a bad neck. Jules, you're a tough SOB. I've seen you play through so many injuries while you played out on the football field. And now I see you podcasting through an injury as well. You're a beast on the field, off the field. That's why you'll always be a legend. People got to understand going through that pain as well and dealing with it on a daily basis. And you never let it stop you, just like you didn't let it stop you out on the football field.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And that's what made you such a great football player. You got to fight through adversity in order to be a great football player. You're never going to be 100% in a game while you're playing. But you've got to find ways to fight through. you got to find ways to dig deep and be able to pull out and come through for your teammates. And you're here doing that today, Julian. You just had surgery 24 hours ago and you're still here. You're still showing up.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You're still spinning knowledge. And also I just want to say welcome to the disc degenerate degeneration game. We should degeneration disk. Degeneration disk. We're not degeneration. We're degeneration. I've had three. We go like this?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yes. because we're representing our disc right there. Oh my God, Degeneration disc. I've had three back surgeries in my career. You had a disc replacement. Spine, any spine, you got to, spine is, if you're any spine injury, you could be in Degeneration disc. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:45 There's a lot of people in the Degeneration Disc Club as well. I know a lot of guys. And it's a special club now. I'm glad we just created it. Jack is definitely in Degeneration Dish. Yes. I think he's like literally. pulled up by by by jack might be the founder jack is the founder of the degeneration disc
Starting point is 00:08:04 also i got i got i got i got a i got to i got to let everyone know i set a record what was the record i set a record for the fastest dip out of surgery i took a dip as soon as i woke up i looked at the nurse i was like can i make the record for the fastest dip out of surgery she And she goes, no, you can't. How fast was it? Then I looked at Ryan and said, give me my dip. He's like, here, I think it was probably, I don't know. You know, you're still kind of weary.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I don't know the time. Ryan, what was, how much time was it? He's shaking his head. Five minutes after the anesthesia wore off. Five minutes after anesthesia wore off. And then how long did you keep the dip in for? Oh, I kept it in probably like eight hours. eight hours?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah. I forgot it was in. Forgot it was in. But you might be the first one to ever pull that off. I think I'm telling you, bro. Correct. But whatever. We're good.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So let's get into it. But speaking of it, they ban fucking smelling salts, which I could, I don't know. That sucks. It's stupid. Kind of stupid. I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:20 what was the reasoning behind it? They say, because if you have a concussion, it can wake you out of the concussion or something. It's something to do with head stuff, which, you know, like, it is what they put in front of your nose when you're knocked out to wake you up.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So, you know, I don't know. I feel bad for the boys because we used to do it every, I mean, remember Tom would, what would Tom do before every game? He put a couple of the smelling sauce. He'd break them in half and then put them in a cup so that it makes it more concentrated. Yeah. And then you sniff the cup and come, boom.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And he passed it around. It's like everyone hitting the joint. Hey, man, hit it. Let's go. We're about to go to war. Let's go. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Man, that sucks, man.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I remember, I mean, James Devlin used, like, he used to bring a box of smelling salts in the weight room. And before every time he would go up, he would hit a salt just to get hammered. Not hammer, but it just gives you a little crazy. How strict are they going to enforce the ban of small salts? Are guys going to be sneaking? You can have them in your pocket. You can walk into the bathroom. You know, pretend you're taking a number two and just be sniffing smelling salts.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Oh. Well, they're going to test you? Do they have a test to know if you're on a smelling salt? Yeah. How are they going to know for it? Is there going to be like a spotter? We have a head spotter. Now there's a fucking smelling spot.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Is it going to be like a COVID spotter if you weren't wearing your mask inside the building that he was going to come find you and tell you to put the mask back on? So is that kind of going to be the same thing? someone just looking around spotting to see if there's any salts anyone has them in their pocket anyone sniffing them in the bathroom and if he finds you kabam you're in trouble right on the spot it's going to be a fool like prison guys are going to be sitting around like you think the fellows aren't going to be smelling those salts you're going to be like passing them off and like it's like little handshakes and just I mean it's understandable like the reasoning behind it because
Starting point is 00:11:14 the NFL does preach you know let's lower the concussion rates and make play play your safety a high priority. So I understand what they're doing. But it's freaking smelling salts. It got me. It's smelling salts. How about maybe if you had a concussion in the last, you know, three weeks or you just got one, then smelling salts are banned from you.
Starting point is 00:11:37 They got to find, like if you're totally healthy, smelling salt should be totally acceptable. I don't see. I don't know this scientific backing behind why we probably shouldn't use it. It probably is like killing your brain cells. immediately when you're sniffing it. It can't be good for you. I mean, I literally just shed a tear. One or two sniffs, you know, every other day is not bad.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Moderation. I mean, I only found out because, you know, I'm in post-op watching inside training camp and fucking Kittle and they're at the Niners. And Kittle goes on. He's not even in an interview. He comes up. He's like, they're bad in the smelling salts. Which I was like, man, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:18 That's going to suck because, like, I don't know. It's just. I mean, I... There's gonna be something... Now, don't the rappers now have like the little Vicks pop smells? Guys gonna be Vixen? You know the little Vicks?
Starting point is 00:12:27 The Sniffs? Have you seen those? I've never seen those ones. Guys now have like little chapsticks that smell like Vick, Vicks, and they smell it. Those. Those are like super popular right now.
Starting point is 00:12:41 So guys just gonna go to that. What's in there? Menthol and Camphor? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's the menthol
Starting point is 00:12:48 that gets you going. Maybe everyone just, maybe this is a big, maybe this is a big play for Vicks, Vaporub. Maybe the NFL has a fucking deal with Vicks Vaporub, and they're like, you can't use this, you have to use this. Possibly. Possibly.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I don't know. The NFL always has tricks up their sleeves. We got to see what Kittle does because I can't see Kittle just going cold turkey. No, no freaking smelling salt. That guy, what do you mean? For a game, zero? I was never really a big smelling salt guy.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I would do him because, like you said, Tom would be handing, you know, passing the cup around. Your pressure got you. But like, it never, like, not, like, not, you know, affected me in a negative way. So I didn't care. I'd give me that. And I just sniff it.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It's not like it's just like I sniffed in. And I was like running around like, like, um, a monkey with it. No, who's that Colombian? Pablo. Yeah, Pablo. Escobar and his crew. It wasn't like that. No.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I was sniffing. I'd be like, oh, all right. Like some cobwebs maybe fell off, you know, maybe a little bit clearer right there, but it doesn't like wake me up like that, that. It was just kind of a thing to do. Mardidonia. My daughter does a little soccer move called the Maradonia.
Starting point is 00:14:09 She does like a little spin. She goes, Dad, look at my Maradonia. Ah, that hurt my neck. The FDA noted potential negative effects from, ammonia inhalants use. What is, is that AIs? AIs also have the potential to mask certain neurological signs and symptoms, including potential signs of concussions.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That's what it is. Well, that sucks. I went to Pat's camp. How was that, Jules? What was that like? What's the feel between, because you went to Pat's Camp. obviously when you were retired coach bellichick was still a coach you went to paths camp when head coach geron mayo was there as well which was last year and now you're at patriots camp with
Starting point is 00:15:00 head coach mike rable leading the way what was the feel this year compared to those other two head coaches um and how do they look more importantly how do they look as well i thought they look pretty good. I went and watched O-line coach Doug Monroe, had the boys working. I feel like Doug Monroe is like kind of a steal for that. Doug Marone. Doug Maron. I knew you were saying it wrong. Doug Maron. You got me to say it wrong. Doug Maron. I'm on painkillers, okay? Yes, yes. Okay, I'm on painkillers, literally, whatever. But I like Doug Maron. Josh, Josh looks like he has the offense going. It seems like there's a lot more cohesiveness this year. Um, They look energized.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I think Drake looked really good. He didn't, I mean, he, he didn't look, like, he just, he was making it look like easy. You know what I mean? Which that's a sign of him looking good. Never flustered. Just operational. Like getting the play in, getting the personnel groups in,
Starting point is 00:16:08 getting the play called, identifying the defense, you know, getting the cadence off, changing protection, knowing where our sighted, like he had all that stuff looked very good. The Henderson kid out of the backfield looked very good. Second round pick. Second round pick at Ohio State. Had a couple big plays, looks smart, looks hungry.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Who does he remind you of as a running back? James White a little bit? He's taller. He's a little taller, but he can do a lot of that stuff. He can do that stuff. He's taller than, you know, a sweet feet or a Vareen. Vreen was kind of a little taller and K. Falk was a little
Starting point is 00:16:47 you know, he's five. I feel like he was taller. What's his height? He's a little lankier too maybe but he was really good. You know, the energy of practice was good. What was the vibe like? The vibe, they had a swagger, I feel. You know, and that comes because the quarterback
Starting point is 00:17:07 he's going into his second year and he knows what's going on. Henderson's 511. Falka's 5-8. Yeah, he's 5-11, but he's a tall 5-11. One of those 5-11s that's like really kind of six-foot. But he's not. So, I mean, it was fun. The fans were out.
Starting point is 00:17:25 What was the fan atmosphere like? Were they all excited? Everyone up on their feet cheering. Chearing whenever a pass was completed. All that good stuff. It was, you know, it was getting there. It was getting there. Like they're excited about the team,
Starting point is 00:17:41 but they're not sure. A lot of Drake made. jerseys. They're not sure that they should be too excited yet. Drake's the guy. They love Drake. Drake's the guy. Where they're still Adamen jerseys? Oh yeah. They're still eddies. That's what I'm talking about. There's some eddies. There's some eddies. There's gronkeys. Now, that's what I'm talking about. There's eddies and gronkeys. We love you guys. We love you guys. We love you guys. There's a couple. There's a couple, bradies. Just a couple, I bet. Not too many. Well, they don't want to hurt. I think it's a little sensitive for the new quarterback, like for the fans. And I think they're trying to get around the kid.
Starting point is 00:18:11 and I don't know if they want the kid to see that they're wearing 12 because they want the kid to be the new 12 if that makes sense but it was fun you know it was it was cool to go to this year's compared to last year's because now I could I saw the system they were running and you could I could do plus minus system in my head for each guy instead of like last year when they're running that they were running a completely different offense west coast I didn't know what was going on so like for me
Starting point is 00:18:41 this year, you know, just knowing the offense and seeing how they executed, I was like, man, you know, a lot of guys making plays. Pop Douglas made a couple plays. Six and nine, Baker and Booty. They made a couple plays. They missed a couple plays, too. But, you know, they have potential to be a competitive football team. And that would be a success. You know, you got to manage your expectations when you had four wins last year. How is Josh McDaniels doing? Is he running the same offense that he ran when we were there running a lot of the same stuff but also using similar similar but you know you know how the offense would always kind of change according to who was healthy and who was playing yes so like they're still trying to figure out who's their guys and what's what guy they can
Starting point is 00:19:29 lean on and that's just you know and what guy can do what what guy can do what what situation that he thrives in what situation the guy doesn't thrive in what spot he's he thrives and what you know what's our best person now. You know, they were, the personnel groups were, were flying. So there's,
Starting point is 00:19:46 they're hitting a lot of those. I don't want to get too much in depth because I don't want to, uh, you know, give anything away. But they, I thought they looked,
Starting point is 00:19:53 I thought they looked like a professional football club. And that's what you want to look like. You know, it was, it was, no one was on the ground. It was a smooth practice. Everyone's got excitement.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Rable, Rable's got high energy. He's, he's around everywhere. He's, he's in the offensive drills, banging with dudes. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Saw the busing with the boys. Guys, they were cool. Taylor and Will. Taylor and Will. They were sick. They were doing their show over there. Walk in to practice. Frable's doing bussing with the boys before practice.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I go, Braves, what would you have said if the head coach was doing a podcast before practice when you were playing? What did he say? He ended it right there. He goes, I got to go, guys. I got to go. I think I got up. I think I've rebeled them. I think I've Rabeled. Jules putting Rabel on the spot. Only you, Jules. You know, Vrable would have fucking busted someone's balls. Yes. It's a different era though, man. It's a different era now.
Starting point is 00:20:54 You know, it felt, it felt similar to ours with like a younger evolution of authority. Which I think, you know, I'm excited for him. I'm really excited for the Patriots this year. Well, most importantly, how did the wide receiver room look? I didn't get to, I wasn't in the wide receiver room. I mean, like, not the actual room, but how did the wide receiver group look out at practice? Pop, Pop Douglas, he looks good. Diggs made some big plays. He's, he's looking good for what, is he seven months out of, out of surgery?
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's what's crazy. Yeah, he's seven months out of ACL surgery. And he's out there doing what he's doing now. That's impressive. He looks very good for that. I feel like he's going to get better as a year goes on as well. Like just to be seven months and already out there, making some plays, like you're just going to keep amping it up.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I remember that, the same thing with my ACL surgery when I came back. Yeah. I played about 10 plays the first game, like 15 plays the second game. You know, I was getting my feet wet and then, you know, like 20 plays the third game. And then all of a sudden it just clicked. And then I just started dominating and then played every single play again from there on out. So you got to get your feet wet coming back from an ACL injury, especially at a skill position.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I think the hardest thing to get back when you have the ACL is the endurance strength. Like you can get and do your stuff like one out of ten times. When you used to be able to do it like 10 out of 10 times. Or you could do like four out of 10. You just, you die. But the longer load you have and the more your body's building up, like I say the same thing when I came off mine. When I came off mine, like week eight is when I hit all right,
Starting point is 00:22:38 We're back. And that was like 18 months for me. So like he's already, I feel, head of schedule. He looked pretty good. He looked pretty good. Matt Collins, Matt Hollins, he, he's going to be a good physical dominant player out there. Like one of the strong receivers that they could do a lot of the blocking with him. He could be a good red area target.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He's big. He's physical. What about Will Campbell? Will Campbell. I watched him. Yeah. He looked good. He looked good.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Big guy. Big guy. He's big guy. Athletic. Athletic. How's that attitude? Mean? I think that's his best thing. Nice guy, but mean out on the football field? He's a country bumpkin dude that like will die for his quarterback. I mean, he said it. You know, his attitude for being like the fourth pick is insane.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Like that's what you want. That's a building block of character that you want to. go into your football team. Like he's just all about the team. He wants the team to do well. He's willing to do anything for the coaching staff, for him to do his best job. Like, that's what you feel. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I was only there for one day. But that's what I felt when I was watching him play. He takes in coaching, which, you know, that's a big thing for a top five pick. You know, a lot of these guys think they got all the answers. You know, he's taking the coach and him and Doug Marone. I went and watched the linemen for a while. doing some really good drills on the pass-offs because it was a padded practice. So they have to take advantage of this day because there's only eight padded practices
Starting point is 00:24:15 for training camp or something like that. It's crazy. But I will say I didn't get to watch the defense that much. I didn't get to watch the defense as much as I wanted to. You know, when you go to the practices, it's fucking like so many politics and shit. You got to go say hi to people. I'm really there to try to watch the shit. And you know, you got to talk to someone here.
Starting point is 00:24:35 You talk to someone there. you know, all of a sudden you're sitting there. You know, fans are saying, Edel Dog, Edelnott. I'm hearing Edelnut every two seconds. That's, everyone calls me Edelnut. It's hard. And I'm just trying to analyze.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I'm trying to analyze, dog. Well, for all you Patriots fans out there, I just want to say, if you want an update how the Patriots are looking, Julian just broke it down for the last 20 minutes. All about the offense. Of course, he didn't have enough time to break down the defense, even though he would if he was there for two.
Starting point is 00:25:07 days. But that was a great description from all the way from Josh McDaniels. No turnovers. Drake May. No balls on the ground. Thank you, Jules, for that. Patriot fans, listen to Julian's breakdown over the last 20 minutes. It's legit. If you need an update of what's going on. Tommy Carrey. It was good. Tommy. It was, it was number one beat writer Jules. Mike Reese Jules. Who's Mike Reese? Mike Reese. Mike Reese. I love you. You're Mike Reese big piece, but that was Mike Reese jules right there. Mike, you got to get on his level, Mike, I love you. I didn't get to say hi to Mike. He was too busy fucking getting the insider information there on the hill.
Starting point is 00:25:49 He's a big shot. I saw a bunch of other people. It was good. It was fun. They got joint practice this week right now, right? Everybody so? Commanders. That'll be a good measuring stick. That'll be some good, you know what? I heard, I heard, though. I don't know if they're, I don't know. I can't know. What about this? I never really met Rabel before, just super quick for like four seconds having the event. Actually,
Starting point is 00:26:14 the NFL honors it was at a Super Bowl. I've heard, you know, a lot of great things about him. But like, can you explain this? Because like his personality, because yesterday,
Starting point is 00:26:25 you know, in training camp, he was bleeding from his face because he broke up a fight in joint practices between the Patriots and the community. commanders whoever was fighting he jumped in the pile to break it up and got hit and his face that are bleeding like can you describe like what that means for the patriots organization and the
Starting point is 00:26:48 team i i know i really i i don't think i've seen that have you yeah that's never been seen before come on rames thinks he's still a player coach just blows the whistle and just starts screaming to everyone get out of here get the fuck out of practice you're done for today rable join the fight to break it up. Braves. Guys got juice. Guys got juice. He's got balls.
Starting point is 00:27:10 He got balls and juice. And he still looks the part. He's going to feel it one day, though. He's going to try to break up a fight, and he's going to mess with the wrong lineman on another team. Well, didn't he get ragged all by Will Campbell? That's why we drafted him. He might get tossed.
Starting point is 00:27:23 He's going to feel it. He's going to like, he's going to pop a disc in the back or something. It'll be a degeneration disc. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he'll join the Degeneration Disc Club. We want to. Who? So how did the fight? What's the report? Scuffle? How did it happen? Henderson got a scuffle with someone. There's no footage yet. But Vrable went in there. Will Campbell went in there, pulled him out. And then it was just seen here he is banjad up. And you can see him this other picture. He's like got a rag that he's like wiping the blood off his face. It's breaking news.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Fucking Braves loves that. He loves it. He loves having a little blood on his face. This guy. He's down and dirty. Did you watch the first episode of Hard Knocks? I did not. I did not, but I heard about it. Buffalo Bills, my hometown, Josh Allen. It was pretty good. It was pretty good. Anytime I watch a heart knocks, I'm like any of everyone else. I'm like, this team looks so good.
Starting point is 00:28:19 They're going to have a shot. They're going to win it all. Josh Allen is a fucking savage. I read reports, though, online on Twitter slash X. It was kind of boring, though, compared to the other years. Yeah, but I like it because you're getting to see the end of the end. of the other team. Like, and this is a winning team.
Starting point is 00:28:38 This ain't some chicken shit team that, you know, just got the first pick or this or that. This is a team that has been very good for a long time. Five divisions in a row, right? This is their fifth division in a champion in row last year. You know, this has been a team. And it's been cool to get a little insight of, I don't really, we don't see a lot of Josh Allen,
Starting point is 00:29:00 like the inside and how he practices. and how the team looks. And, you know, it was a lot of Josh Allen, but I was entertained. Any Haley Steinfeld? Yeah, of course, they had to bring her in. They brought her in, they brought her in just a little. That's going to get some news.
Starting point is 00:29:17 They got her on the red carpet talking about her man. She's like, yeah, she's at the helm. She is at the helm with them bills. She said, she's looking out for her. Her mafia loves her. Do they? Yeah, they do. They have to.
Starting point is 00:29:30 They have to. No, but those old. helmets look so fucking cool. They wore the retro helmets in the stadium practice. I like McDermott. McDermott, he's a, remember, didn't he have the Taliban thing once? I could tell where, you know, he had a good heart probably from trying to make that reference. He's a very, he's like, he's one of those guys that's always talking about mindset, like some Navy SEAL shit, you know, that wrestler kind, kind of guy. I like that shit. I like that shit. Keir guy. There wasn't a lot of him, but I think he's going to have a monster year.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Number 10. Who's going to be the unsung hero of Hard Knocks for the Buffalo? I don't think we've gotten that far yet. We haven't had any of the younger guys that are, they haven't given you that storyline where like the young guy on the fence about to make the team. That would be like episode like three, four. Could be this one. They could build it this next one, you know, where they follow like the undrafted rookie and his girlfriend to mini golf and like, they golf and he's just sitting there talking about his job of what he probably will go do if he doesn't make the team. And she's over there like, don't worry, you're going to make the team, baby. And then they go back and coach says, give me your playbook.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And head coach wants to see you. And then, you know, he goes and does that second job. Or he makes a team. Or he makes a team. And then he's the guy. And then the girl starts crying, I knew, I knew you're going to make this team. I believe they knew from the beginning since college days. no marry me
Starting point is 00:31:04 it was it was cool it was cool I thought what what oh Tadavius White's still on a team is that his
Starting point is 00:31:15 Tradavius White right I think that was the guy I elbow dropped Oh that is the guy I elbow dropped That's why you're bringing him up right now No he was their first round pick in 17 And so we used to have to play him a few times He's on the team Their young corner that they
Starting point is 00:31:31 drafted in the first round got banged up. So you saw that LCL, I heard, I think. But it was cool to see, you know, Trudevius White was a first round pick for them 10 years ago, damn near, nine years ago. Now they got a first round corner, and it was cool to see his relationship with the young corner trying to help him.
Starting point is 00:31:49 That was cool. I saw a lot about Dionne Dawkins drifting. Oh, yeah. What's that all about? Dionne Dawkins. Yeah. He's got a drift club in Buffalo. that like on his off days, which doesn't seem that relaxing.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Like he's like fully like engaged forcing like, ugh. Did he go to the University of Georgia? Did he? He had to have. Temple. Oh, Temple. Mac Daddy. I think I knew that too.
Starting point is 00:32:16 We've hung out a couple times. But he, but the crazy thing is he's drifting and he's fucking really good at drifting. Tokyo drift style. But he's got his like two year old kid in there with a helmet. Like he's taking his little three little kids. kids getting them. They're like, Daddy, can we go drifting with you? And he's like, yeah, get in.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And he's like drifting with his little kids. I immediately wanted to go and drift with my kid afterwards. It was, dude, look at him. That's him. He's fucking good. So that's at an actual, like, race. And he's doing it one-handed and shit. That's out of drifting car.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's not like, it's not like they're just out in the streets doing. No, they're out of, okay. It wasn't like, this is right here. So it's totally legal. This is him on the hard knocks right here. This is legal. That's cool. I like that.
Starting point is 00:33:00 But his kids in there with them. he's like two-year-old. He's like, and the little kid's like going. That looks like a good time. Look at you want handing him. Look, look, look, look. He's a beast. That's some good ass fucking dad kid time though.
Starting point is 00:33:12 That's a fun. That's some conditioning right there as well. Look at a little man. He's like, damn, that was my turn. He's been able to go that fast and turn that fast. You get like G-Force. Yeah. And like it actually brings your conditioning to a whole other level if you can handle that.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Oh, he's definitely got to, you know. That's why he's such a beast. But it was, that was a fun scene. That was like, if you think about that was a sick scene. That was a fun, that was a fun hard knocks. Honestly, I'm a sucker for the hard knocks. I love watching football slow motion and getting an inside look at at fucking teams.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But this is a cool one because you're getting to look at the bills. And then they showed the new stadium showing Josh Allen. Josh has got like his pencil. He's like basically designing it and shit. He's like, yeah, I like this. No, I don't like this. Where's a hot tub, cold tub, going to be? I mean, it was a fun experience to watch.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah, they were talking about the sauna. He goes, is the sauna going to be hot enough? Jules, Jules, you're spoiling it for me. Yeah. I still got to watch it. But you're... Actually, I don't even have to watch it anymore. You're telling me every single detail.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But he talks about the sauna. Keep it going, though. I like it. And you know for a fact that just like we... In NFL sauna rooms, guys are cranking these things up to like 280. They're putting all this water on it. 280. 2.30.
Starting point is 00:34:30 2.80s. But regardless, they have, we had the two machines in ours, an extra big, right? But because of what all the guys do to get it pumping so hot, you go through the machines at, like, we get a new machine every year. Because you're not supposed to put water, like, guys are putting like little ice cubes on them and it drips on it because you're, you're manipulating the heater to think it's cold, but so it pumps out more heat. So it overworks the thing, but guys are in there. You know what I mean? So it was funny to hear him talk about. Is the sauna going to be hot enough because we used to complain.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Remember, Sonna ain't getting hot because we probably blew the engine. Mm-hmm. So it's funny how everyone has the same kind of bitchings. What was the most amount of guys that you ever had a Sana session with? It's a good one. No, no, it's a for real question. I mean, we would stuff everyone in. And like, if there's standing room and there was like only room for one more person,
Starting point is 00:35:29 you would somehow figure it out to get that one more person. in the sauna room. Yeah, and we would probably, I would say, I've been in there with like nine guys, 10 guys. Probably made to fit eight comfortably. Yeah. You get nine or ten in there uncomfortably. And you know who the, you know, the gatekeeper is?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Who's the gatekeeper that was always in there getting it warm? Brandon Bolden. Brandon Bolden. Brandon, Bolden, gatekeeper. He, you'd always see him. Sona master. Sona master. You'd always, fellas, his time.
Starting point is 00:36:02 not ready yet. Don't come in. It's not ready yet. He would stop us. I got to get it hot. Wait out. He doing his little, fucking tricks and shit. Two feet of ice. Two feet of ice. On top of the engine. Yeah, he would get ice. He would, he would sit there and he'd get little balls of ice. And he'd make balls of ice. And he'd just put them on there perfectly. So it drip at a certain rate. And then he would fucking spray the walls down with hell of water. So it gets he humid. And then he would get the towel. And he'd whip it over his head for hell along. He's like, went up and you got to get this shit and I said hot. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Sanisesh. Always after practice too. Always after practice. Never before practice. Always after practice. We'll be right back after this quick break. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved.
Starting point is 00:37:03 until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer. and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that you all said.
Starting point is 00:37:44 They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. Y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small town. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing. where you're, like, super charming all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Being more able to look people in the eyes. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
Starting point is 00:39:45 But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of life. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Eisman. we fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan,
Starting point is 00:40:55 there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The Big Short's story, what it means when people start betting against the market, and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, it is relevant today as it's ever been,
Starting point is 00:41:19 offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the big short now at pushkin.fm. slash audiobooks or wherever audio books are sold. I was back in Boston, Rob. And how was that? It was amazing. I went to, I went to Dorchester for a burger.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Some place on the, something hill. Well, let's hear about that burger. No, it was something hill. But everywhere I was going, people, you know what they were talking about. Burger time. There's a little burger time, but you know what they were talking about. What's that? They said, you got any tickets to the live show.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Oh. Live show. August 28th. What did you say? I think we got like half BPD going. BPD, Boston Police Department. You know, I got a couple guys in the inn and there. You know, they said there's going to be a showing of the cops in the live show, which will be fun.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Everyone was talking about. Everyone's, like, excited about it. Everyone is excited about it. I was getting a little nervous. Live show is coming up August 28th. Just a few seats left up for grab still. So get your tickets at Ticketmaster.com. We got giveaways.
Starting point is 00:42:33 We got historic guests locked in. And I'm not even sure who the guests are yet, but that's okay. I want to be surprised as well. Possibly a wheel may be involved and a lot of other surprises as well. So mark your calendars 8 p.m. August 28th at the MGM Music Hall in Boston and hit us up with any ideas that you guys got for the live show as well because those ideas may come to real life. So we'll see you guys there. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be awesome. It will be. We already did a live show with games
Starting point is 00:43:06 with names and that show was excellent and now this one's going to be even more improved. We need burgers. We need burgers at the live show. There's no burgers at the live show. Julian's not showing up and I back them as well. So we need to partner. We need to partner with the burgers. We need burgers. We need burgers. We need burgers at the live show. back them as well. So we need burgers at the live show. So expect burgers, everyone. Wait a minute. Something just hit me. Oh, what hit you, Jules? Your pain pills from the surgery? Lucky guy. Lucky guy. Let me tell you, I was scrolling on a... Scrolling? Reddit, I think. And I found squirrels in the Los Angeles area have become carnivorous. Has anyone seen that else? Has anyone else seen that? Yes. So from the fires,
Starting point is 00:43:47 they've all got like their turf has been smaller. Yeah. Right? They've all come into the city. There's like squirrel orgies outside my, outside of my balcony almost every day. Yeah. The squirrels are eating animals now. That's sick.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Fucking nuts. I mean, squirrels are fast. Squirrels are strong. And they say that carnivore diet makes you both of those. They're going to be faster and stronger. Mm-hmm. Squirrels. All right, everyone.
Starting point is 00:44:14 We have a new call to action. We're doing. something really, really cool. This is a new segment this season and it's sponsored by T-Mobile. And if you're a football player, that makes a sick play, high school, college, pop Warner, it doesn't matter. Send the video our way and we will pick the coolest and craziest plays and air them here on dudes on dudes and determine what kind of dude you are.
Starting point is 00:44:41 So post your highlights and tag at dudes on dudes using the hashtag, hashtag Friday night dudes let's go send in your best clip your best highlight film and we want to rate it we want to review it it won't just be entertaining for us it will be entertaining for everyone so we appreciate all you guys that participate and hurry up send it in so you guys can be the first also I mean we want to do this is this is kind of like our we used to have in the Bay Area sports focus did you guys did you guys have like a local high school highlight thing and we were featured on it once after we won a championship.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It was so cool. Did you ever have one of those? No, not really. You didn't have like a local, like a local, like we had like all Bay Area that would show highlights of the high school football on like Channel 36. I mean, the local news would show a little bit
Starting point is 00:45:34 of the highlights of like the big Friday night game, but it would be for like 30 seconds. Dude, we had a 30-minute show just for all of the high school sports. Well, Jules, I was playing high school football in Buffalo. New York. We had 24 people in the stands. I thought you had, I thought you were in California. Pittsburgh was my senior year. That was a whole different ball game. There was 14,000 people per game. There was highlight shows and everything in news stations just to present the game. West PA fucking loves football. That were Friday nights. Oh, Western Pennsylvania football is like
Starting point is 00:46:04 a whole nother deal. It's like Florida football. It's like California. It's like Texas. We're basically, we're basically, we're basically, we're basically, let's get in the chills through the week, brought to you by our favorite beer. Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. Got to crack a beer right there, Robbie. It's crack the beer, Jules. Hey, please, I know you're stiff right now because of that neck surgery.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So just please stay still. I'll get you that beer. And I just want to thank you very much for breaking down the Patriots offense, you know, from the one day that you were at training camp for. I thought it looked good. The fans will appreciate that. And your breakdown was legit, man. I mean, I would love to see, you know, they have Hunter Henry.
Starting point is 00:46:43 he's going to be a good, good target for him too. Very solid. He's the most reliable target that they have and will be again this year. He's a safety blanket for Drake May and it's always good to have a young stud at the quarterback position to have a safety blanket that he can trust and that's a veteran and that's with Hunter Henry. So we're going to crack this beer. Cheers. The Blue Mountains. To the Blue Mountains cold as the Rockies.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And this is the time of year filled with hope, speculation and wonder. That's right. it's time for a training camp edition of crystal balls. Let's look into our crystal balls for some answers, Jules. And I can tell you this. Jules has all the answers already about Patriots training camp. But this isn't just Patriots training camp we're doing. We're going to do all types of training camps.
Starting point is 00:47:31 And crystal balls will be rolling. They will be shaken. Let's get into it. Thank you, Cors Light. Crystal balls. Mm-hmm. All right. The first crystal ball.
Starting point is 00:47:42 ball. Where's the crystal ball? Do we not have the crystal ball here? All right. The crystal ball is just a made-up crystal ball. We'll pretend to shake it right now. All right, here we go. The first one, the crystal ball asks, the Minnesota Vikings will win more than eight and a half games this season. What does the crystal ball in Julian's brain say 24 hours after neck surgery? This is an easy one. This is a given. Like, how are you thinking right now? You were just watching Kevin O'Connell on the NFL network. You've played with Kevin O'Connell.
Starting point is 00:48:21 You know this guy is witty. He can talk. He can stand in front of a crowd and motivate you, Jules. Nah, they're going to go over. They're going over. I'm going over as well. Why do you even think about that? Because it's one of those ones where, like,
Starting point is 00:48:33 they have a rookie quarterback that we have no clue how's he's going to do. Justin Jefferson. I know, but Addison. We all, I know. Sam Darnold had the great year that Sam Darnold had last year, but Sam Darnal was also in like a six year of football. I mean, and he had some quality starts. We're going to J.J. McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I'm sorry to say, you watch him in college. He didn't throw the football that much. Now he's got dynamic playmakers. Addison's going to be suspended for the first three. They're only going to have Justin Jefferson. They have a really good defense. They have a really good offense line. But like, we're just going to assume that the kid's going to come in
Starting point is 00:49:12 and win a lot of games like that, this is early as rookie year. It's kind of like a rookie plus year because anyone that has had a red shirt year. So usually you can come in and be pretty legit after your redshirt year. I mean, let's go to a different sport. Look at Ben Simmons.
Starting point is 00:49:29 He sat out, he redshirted, and then he became rookie of the year and absolutely dominated his rookie year. I hope he doesn't become Ben Simmons. Yeah, but maybe for his rookie year. I hope that he doesn't become Ben Simmons. I was just giving an example of players. in professional sports red shirting, then absolutely dominated.
Starting point is 00:49:46 It would be a probably wouldn't be good. Well, I mean, it's the Minnesota Vikings, though. So it's not like you're a fan of the Vikings. Or maybe it would be because Ben Simmons is good at distributing the football or the ball, but he can't shoot. Playing defense. Yeah, that means J.J. McCarthy will have to go over to the defense. Let's get back to the crystal balls. Let's get back to the crystal ball.
Starting point is 00:50:04 All right. What is your crystal ball say? Oh, over, over eight and a half games. There's no doubt about that. No doubt. Very, very solid head coach. I never met him. Julian's played with him, but I've only heard great things. And guy knows football.
Starting point is 00:50:17 He knows, they say he's tall, Sean McVeigh. Yes, he knows how to motivate his team. All right, here we go. And they have great players, great, great players. They ain't going to win the championship. I mean, division's too tough. They're not going to go to the Super Bowl, but they're going to be a very, very solid football team again. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Crystal balls. Michael Parsons will play under a new contract with the Dallas Cowboys in 2020. Julian, we kind of talked about this subject the other week on dudes on dudes. I kind of like what you said, and it's going in that direction, is that there's always these games played with the Dallas Cowboys players. And then in the end, Jerry Jones finally comes through and gives them the contract that the player wants. And it's the biggest story. It makes headlines again. And the Dallas Cowboys are America's team.
Starting point is 00:51:05 The publicity is there. That was a marketing scheme. You were talking about what do you think, Jules? No. No. Wow. I think he's, I don't know. I think Mike is pissed. Yeah, he is. He seems pretty pissed about this whole thing. It's like he says he doesn't want to play for him. But I watch him. That's just a gimmick. I know because I watch him at practice and he's like helping out the younger guy. He's not practicing,
Starting point is 00:51:31 but he's helping out the younger guys. So he acts like he wants to be there. But that could be just the dude he wants. I'm going to go, no, I think something crazy is going to happen. Mm-hmm. I mean, If something does, you know, happen that's crazy like that, they're going to get a lot of compensation for him if they ended up training. Could that be good for their team? I think he stays. I think he's going to be playing under a new contract. They just paid Ferguson too. They did. But, you know, that that was what Ferguson deserved. And it's not like 12. Yeah, like 12. But that's not going to affect the Parsons deal at all. The Parsons deal is going to be like around $40 million. A $12 million deal doesn't really matter compared. DAC, they have a 32 with CD, now they have a 12. Like, how much money is there? It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:52:15 The salary cap just never runs out. Like, it just never will. No, it did with our teams for some reason. At least that's what we were told by the coaching staff. It did. It did. We didn't have salary cap, but I swear to God it's so hard to combat that when you look at the Philadelphia Eagles, everyone's the highest paid guy. And you look at this team, everyone's the highest paid guy.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's fucking crazy. I don't understand the salary cap. Yeah, I do a little bit. You just keep pushing it into the, future and the salary cap raises so then you can you know manage the money and then push more money into the future the salary cap raise but the salary cap has to like stop raising eventually like there has to be a cap unless if we keep expanding overseas well then it'll just keep on going up and up and up but one day it's going to have to plateau that's going to be hard for a lot of teams and though that's the
Starting point is 00:52:59 year that you do not want to be a free agency yeah all right let's get back to the crystal ball subject number three crystal ball asked Justin herber and the Los Angeles Chargers will win the AFC West for the first time since 2009. No. I like where they're at. They just don't have the talent yet. Ladd,
Starting point is 00:53:23 McConkey, love them as a player, love them as a wide receiver. Love coach. Jim Harbaugh. Hardball. One of the greatest. One of the greatest coach. They got North Carolina running back. That's going to be good. They got Najee Harris, who's going to be all right. too tough of a conference. The Raiders, according to Tom, that they're going to have a team this year when we were talking to them, which is probably true.
Starting point is 00:53:47 The Denver Broncos, I mean, with Bo Nicks and Sean Payton, I mean, they're going to be solid. It's going to be a tough conference. I just don't see the charges. And the Chiefs, obviously. I didn't even have to bring up the Chiefs because everyone knows it's the Chiefs. Like, I think the Chiefs are going to be better this year. Like, people that are sleeping on them, like, they just fucking died. I know, I know Rashid.
Starting point is 00:54:08 ain't going to be there for like the first four or whatever. But that dude's a bad man, I think. I think he's going to be like a dynamic football player. They're going to have worthy. They're going to have Hollywood back. They're going to have health at the receiver position, which they didn't have all last year, and they still managed to go fucking win 14 games.
Starting point is 00:54:26 People are sleeping on them. It's not about the Chiefs. The Crystal Ball is asking about the Los Angeles Chargers. No, they are asking about the AFC fucking West and it runs through the goddamn Chiefs. No, the Crystal Ball asked. Oh, yeah. That's what the Crystal Ball said.
Starting point is 00:54:38 He said, yeah. that's what the crystal ball just told me. All right. Well, hey, that's the crystal ball and Jules his head. So we're both going with, no, though. On to the next subject with the crystal ball. Shador Sanders will start a regular season game for the Cleveland Browns. He's starting a preseason game.
Starting point is 00:54:54 We're talking a regular season game now. Whoa. Well, your crystal ball just got a little jumpy. Well, he's starting this game. And like... That's preseason, though. Regardless, it's still an opportunity. If he goes, lights it up, he's going to earn.
Starting point is 00:55:08 more opportunity next week. Okay, that's what people... Now, everyone, Gabriel's got a hamstring. Kenny Pickett's hurt and Flacco's kind of like their safety blanket who they want to start, right? But say Chidor goes out here, plays this whole fucking game and fucking has three touchdowns, lights it up.
Starting point is 00:55:26 You have no choice but to give the kid more opportunity the next time. Like he could luck into this thing. So I'm going to go, he might, yes, he's going to start a regular season game this year. Yes, I agree. it's yes, he's focused. Even if they don't want him to.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Look, Gabriel's a small guy. You got a hamstring. How can't be a small guy and have a hamstring? How do you even have a hamstring injury at whatever? 22 years old, a quarterback. How do we have a hamstring at 22? Like, it makes no sense. Like, we got to get that fixed.
Starting point is 00:55:55 So you don't have that. Joey Flacco's getting, I don't, I don't want him to not. I want Flacco to play, but, you know, there's always a time in that whole scenario that we've seen for like the last four years. years where the team gets kind of stale with Joe and then they always flip back to a different guy. They've done it like three times in the last three years and three different teams. I'm going with yes. I think Shador Sanders starts a regular season game for the Cleveland Browns. He's too determined. He's too focused to not, you know, get that opportunity. And plus, listen
Starting point is 00:56:27 to this. Let's hear this plus. Like medium plus? No, this is like medium rare. This is a medium rare plus steak. All right. So you were just medium rare with the take. Now you're going to add that plus. Let's here it, Jules. So Cleveland Browns have two first-round picks next year. Oh. Okay? So Cleveland Browns have a pretty decent team. Sept. You know, they're a little old, the quarterback room's real young. We're everywhere over there. Who's in, I hear next year. Next year, that quarterback draft supposed to be fucking really good. So what if they somehow just start Shador the whole year and just say, fuck it and go gear up for Arch? Oachie Manning
Starting point is 00:57:10 That's a plus take right there That is a medium rare plus So then maybe he's definitely going to start Take right there Because what if the That's a well done plus take right there actually Jules I don't know
Starting point is 00:57:23 You're reaching Are you reaching? I don't know What if they go and try to They're not tanking I mean I would say They're not tanking Once you're not tanking
Starting point is 00:57:33 We don't tank anymore That's no That's a possibility once they evaluate where the season is going about halfway three quarters. That's what I mean. So he's going to start. So, yes. But if they're dominating, no, they're not going to tank or anything.
Starting point is 00:57:47 The Cleveland Browns dominating. Could you just say that? Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. Did you just say that in the NFC? My crystal ball is getting tired, okay? I mean, that's a tough division, too. You got the Ravens, you got a fucking Bengals team that's pissed off that hasn't won in fucking September since God knows when.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Joey Burroughs. Put it this way. The Bengals are playing their starters in preseason this year. because they finally want to start fast. I would say the reason why they didn't make the playoffs last year was because of that loss week one versus New England Patriots when they had no business losing that game. So they got to figure out how to start fast.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And you got to change it up. Play them in the preseason. Play them not just a quarter. Play them a full game. You got to be able to do that. The thing is, Joey Burroughs been banged up in all the training camps that they haven't. Like last year he had the wrist.
Starting point is 00:58:35 They didn't know how it was going to go. So I understand they couldn't play them, but they got to play everyone else. They got to start fast. I like that they're changing it up. But, you know, that's a tough division. We even talk about Ravens, Browns, Bengals, and we didn't even talk about the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And they got Aaron, and that's going to be fun to watch. That's going to be a fun conference. Fucking I'm excited for football season. I'm excited too. I need to chill out because this is a chill zone, all right? All right, Jules, just chill out, all right? Because that was the chillest dude of the week presented by Cors Light. And thanks to our favorite beer,
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