Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Travis Hunter
Episode Date: March 28, 2026We're covering star cornerback and wide receiver, Travis Hunter! Gronk and Julian Edelman discuss what makes Travis Hunter so great and some of their favorite stories.Support the show: https://hoo.be/...dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to Dudes on Dudes.
I'm Julian Edelman,
and we're bringing you one of our favorite segments
from the show talking about one of our favorite dudes
in the NFL.
Let's go.
All right, here we go.
Here's the synopsis.
I can give you a clue.
He wears number 12.
Oh, good clue.
Yeah.
All right.
At 6 foot 1, 185 pounds.
He's one of college football's most electrifying talents.
Oh, our first college football player, Jules.
All right.
Now are we talking.
I was waiting for this day.
I was waiting for this day.
I was too.
You know, this is a Christmas present.
Early Christmas present here we got for all the college football fans out there.
Eight crazy nights.
Initially, a top five recruit committed to a.
Power 5 school. He made ways by committing to an HBCU program. Now playing in the Big 12.
He's making highlights on both sides of the ball week in and week out. A Florida native,
he was a two sport athlete, excellent in both football and basketball in high school.
Off the field, he's a gamer and content creator with a massive social media following.
Jules, who is our first college player wearing number 12?
Let's get on Travis Hunter.
Oh, man.
All right.
All right.
I like this.
I'm excited too, man.
Not just because we have our first college football player, but we have the biggest college football player in all of college, possibly a Heisman trophy winner.
He's a two-way player, one of the best wide receivers in the game, but also one of the best defensive backs in the game.
When was the last time we've even seen a player play both ways, not just in the NFL ranks, but we're talking just even.
in the college ranks, Jules.
Well, I don't think anyone's played like this.
I don't think any, I don't think he's,
he's averaging 114 plays per game.
That's, that's fucking gnarly.
I remember when we played, uh, the game you didn't play in that 16 Super Bowl,
when we, we had three receivers.
We had a hundred and like two plays and we were fucking exhausted.
Gassed.
Exhausted.
And this, this guy plays 114 plays a game.
114 plays average a game, which is,
That's crazy to me.
But also, he's like that first generation.
He's like, we're starting to get a lot of these new guys.
These are the first generation guys of going from like one school to another school.
I mean, I believe he committed to Florida State.
And then Deion didn't get the job.
And then he went to Jackson State.
And then from Jackson State went to the Big 12 to Colorado with Coach Prime.
Like this is this new generation of like a free agent type player.
And I don't blame him.
Why wouldn't you go with one of the most electrifying athletes that did it where you want to go in the National Football League with Dion Sanders, who's going to help you develop to what you ultimately want to do and become a pro?
I mean, it's been so impressive to watch this kid play.
Well, Sadden, you can't blame the kid at all going where Deion Sanders goes because it's all about relationships in life.
If you have a good relationship, why would you want to break that relationship?
You know, relationships go far, if it's a long-distance relationship, or if it's a relationship, or if it's a relationship,
you can go somewhere with someone.
So you got to give him much respect that he's loyal.
Dion and Travis Hunter are loyal to each other and each other's family.
And you got to appreciate that because you don't see loyalty, you know, like that anymore in
the United States.
All this social media, everyone's usually out there for themselves.
But to see that loyalty is something special.
And that's why it's working.
And that's why he's, you know, Dion's creating a powerhouse just within Travis Hunter.
and then also a powerhouse of a program at Colorado because they're loyal to each other there.
And I like that, man.
I like it a lot.
Oh, man, that's a tough question.
And what's you going to do?
There's another question as well.
What's he going to do when he gets to the NFL?
He's going to play both.
He's going to pick a wide receiver.
He's going to pick a corner.
I mean, we can all throw our perspectives in.
But, I mean, it's always obviously up to what he wants to do and what's best for the team
or whatever way he wants to go, whatever, which way in direction.
But in college, I would say his first couple years, he was a better quarterback.
Better cornerback.
He was making plays,
interceptions.
You know,
he kind of, you know,
was doing well
at the wide receiver position
running by guys.
But lately now,
since Colorado has taken off,
their top 20 now,
they're winning games.
And I would say that has to do
with Travis Hunter
stepping it up at the wide receiver position.
And from what I'm seeing,
he is a better wide receiver now
than he is a cornerback,
you know,
this year, his third year in the college ranks.
I thought he was a better
a cornerback his first two years than being a wide receiver.
But what he's doing now is special at that wide ride receiver position.
He's starting to understand it more, I feel like.
You know, he's running routes now.
He's not just more athletic than the other guy.
He's going up there.
He's pinpointing the ball, jumping over two guys.
Strong hands.
That's exactly what you need at the next level as well.
And it's just fun to see him go, man.
And you want to know what makes him so fast?
You want to know what makes him so fast?
He's got skinny calves, man.
As Dion Sanders always said, you never seen a racehorse with calves.
Mm-hmm.
You never seen a race horse with calves.
I remember Dion said that one somewhere.
I could be fully wrong, but I feel like that's...
I had big calves, so I wasn't a fast, fast guy.
Look on my legs, man.
Change of direction calves.
I got way too big of legs, man.
No, the thighs are, the thigh, it's not the thigh.
It's the thighs.
You look at his thighs, he's got big thighs.
But when you have those little bird calves that come up to here,
you know what I'm talking about that little, it's like a little bird calf.
Like you think I those are that that's a speed guy.
You think if I get liposuction in my calves, I can make it back to the NFL.
No, but if you get a calf implant, you look really cool.
That was a good answer, Jules.
I like that way better.
No.
Yeah.
Is he going to win the Heisman?
I mean, you got to play out the whole year to see if he should win the Heisman or not.
And I truly don't even know anyone else that's in Heisman contention.
That's half of it, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
half of it is media.
I think he should because it's unbelievable what he's doing on both sides of the ball.
And what's so great about him as a defensive back too, he's always around the ball.
I mean, he's making interceptions off tip balls.
He's making interceptions because he's going to go make the play and go and deserve that interception.
But when you fall into an interception, that's just because you're always around the ball.
And you have that knack of just always wanting to be around the football.
That's just a smart player right there, man.
When I watch him play on defense as a corner, he plays.
really, he's an exceptional zone corner.
I haven't seen a lot of man,
and I haven't watched a whole, whole lot.
I mean, I watched a lot of his highlights for this,
and I've seen all his highlights.
But, like, his instinct to jump off of his zone,
to track another zone,
and reading the quarterback is really good.
Like, he's always, like, a trap zone defender.
Like, he'll keep his eyes in the backfield.
Trap meaning he's got the flat.
there's a guy inside of him and there's a two deep safety.
Like he'll keep his eyes on that backfield
and he's breaking on the ball before the receiver is
because he knows probably the receiver's responsibility,
which I remember when I played defense,
it made me a better receiver, you know,
when they brought me into those meetings.
That's what I did want to ask you as well.
What was it like playing defense and offense?
Actually, you did it in the NFL ranks as well.
That was what year 2011?
So you can explain more of what Travis Hunter is doing than anyone else.
Well, it's as a player, it made me a better, it made me a better receiver.
Because once I stepped into all the defensive back meetings, I was learning what they were
protecting.
I was learning their techniques.
I was learning on certain things what they would try to do with safeties.
That's really what mattered.
The corners could lie.
But if the safeties were out of position, that's when you would pay.
the leverage that the defensive back always had to keep because he was protected with certain help on certain sides.
Like that taught me as a receiver, like in my route running that if I do this to this guy,
I know he's protecting this, which I see it in his game when he's playing defense,
when he's jumping all over these receivers leaving his zone.
So it's really hard mentally.
Like that's what I'm interested to see how he does in the NFL, because once you get the receivers,
to the league, you know, there's no, you know, Rice Academy, uh, agricultural school where
you could just go and, and glove up their, their best receiver who's, you know, he's good
in college while having to study, you know, the game plan for offense, which, you know,
in the NFC, or AFC championship, I played like 25 plays on offense. I played 25 plays on
defense. I played all the special teams, something along those lines, could be
off a couple plays here or there.
But it was so hard for me in the prep week
to get all my mind ready for what
my offensive needs were
and then also for what my defensive needs
and my responsibilities were.
It was a lot mentally.
And then, you know, in practice, you're going the whole time
and in NFL, it's 17-game season.
So, you know, it's been really impressive
to watch him doing college.
I don't know what he's going to do in a pro.
I'm probably pretty sure if I was him,
I'd go defense because those corners get paid a lot of money.
And then they'd probably give you
a package on offense here,
their red area package or a
third down package
or, you know, a gimmick
package where we need to get like
some spark, you get them in like
a slip screen or he can
catch the ball down the sideline. That's well
said though. I believe that he could possibly
play both ways in the NFL, but not
full time both ways. Like you said,
have a package for him on offense in the red
zone or third down or whatever
it is or whatever best suits
his skill set at the wide receiver
position and then use him full time on the defensive side of the ball.
But I would say it's up to Travis Hunter, obviously, what he wants to do in the NFL.
I mean, coming out of high school, I was an all-state defense event.
I only had eight catches as a tight end, you know, coming out, coming out, you know,
going into the college ranks.
But the whole time I knew I wanted to play the tight-end position.
But if you were a fan out there, you'd be like, wait, wait a second, you were all-state
DN.
Why are you going, you know, to college for tight-end?
Because I knew that best suited me.
I knew that I had the best chance of making it to the NFL because I felt like I was a tight end and I felt like I could grow at that position and be the best out there.
So it's all up to him.
It's all up to his mindset what he thinks best suits him.
And only Travis Hunter can determine what side of the ball he wants to play.
But he's so good.
In my eyes, though, it'd be really, really tough to play a full NFL game on both sides.
But he's so good.
He's good at both positions where he could be in packages on both sides of the ball.
an impactful player on both sides of the ball.
Probably special team or two.
Oh, he returned kicks.
He's also making $3 million a year
right now in college, so he ain't no rush.
Man, what would you do with that money if you had that
in college, Jules? Three million bucks, bro?
I would probably have, at that
time of my life, I'd have the sickest
like surround sound, big screen
TV. I'd have the dopest
like Xbox stuff. I'd have a gamer chair.
Because when you're in college, that's what you did.
You play video game. I'd have a sick poker.
We used to play a lot of poker in college.
I'd buy like a sick custom poker table for like a poker night.
All right.
Are we talking?
Obviously you're going to, I mean, we, you roll up to Georgia's fucking student parking lot.
You see nothing but Lamborghini.
So I think I'd have to join the club, get a Lambo or something.
I mean, you're a college kid.
You got no fucking fears of anything.
I call those Lambo shit boxes.
Well, you want to know why because I can't fit it.
My knees are going through the windshield.
I would have a freaking F-150 Raptor or something.
I know what you would do.
I would have the Lambo of the, you know, four trucks.
I don't really like them either, but I just probably get a Lambo.
That's why I say that.
It's $3 million.
You probably couldn't get a Lambo, actually.
Yeah.
What would you do?
If college, this is what I think college rob would do.
Oh, let's hear it.
I like this.
Would you just buy an Olympic-sized pool and make it a hot tub?
There we go.
There you go.
You're hitting me right on the money, Jules.
also no I was a big halo player man I love video games and halo was our game
yeah in the house that we lived in and we played four-way players on that uh what was it
Xbox 360 and we we had the four worst gaming chairs of all time oh yeah falling apart like
two wheels on the chair but it was squeaking ruin the ruining the floor every single time we
were playing but we didn't care as long as we got our halo in and halo like gave you that
excitement gave you that juice as well before going out so it was always a pregame game to play
as well before hitting the town on a Friday night.
But I would have had the best possible video game set up that you could possibly have
if I was making that type of money in college, man, big time.
I'd be like Kyler Murray.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Time.
Let's do it.
It's time.
What kind of dude?
What kind of dude is Travis Henry?
Or what kind of dude is Travis Henry?
I don't know why.
I almost said Travis Kelsey like four times.
I know.
So don't worry, Jules.
You're the first one that make that mistake.
I almost did it 15 different times.
And I almost said Travis Kelsey.
Got to put some respect in this kids.
I'm sorry.
Travis Hunter.
What kind of dude is Travis Hunter?
Man.
He seems like a great team guy.
He has a great team guy.
He doesn't seem selfish.
He seems like he gets along with everyone.
He has a great attitude.
So he could be a dude's dude.
He could definitely be a dude's dude, you know,
especially to the video gamers out there.
I mean, always streaming with it.
everyone, always letting everyone have the inside of what's going on in his life, which is really
cool, man. And what's different about this era compared to our era is if you were a streamer or
if you were big on social media at our time, like it would be frowned upon. Like coaches would
use that against you if you mess up on the field. But that's what this new generation, these new
millennials are all about. Genzy. Hey, let's vlog. Let's blog. Let's play video games. Let's, what is
Twitch? And let everyone see our video game streaming going on. And that's totally normal.
And that's how it should be, because if you take care of business on the field,
you can do whatever you want outside of football on your own time.
But our era, it was always frowned upon because there was no such thing as social media.
Like it was just starting to become big.
So they would use every excuse if you messed up on the field.
Oh, he's on Twitter.
He's doing that video game.
But it's cool that guys like him are just so good at what he does on the field.
And it makes it totally normal that he's still a streamer.
And he's kicking ass at that too.
So that's really cool.
Yeah.
So he's definitely a dude's, what?
What is he?
He's a dog.
So, all right, we'll do it right now.
You know, so at Colorado, they have the L or the D.
They don't give a C.
They don't give the captain logo.
They give a leader or a dog.
And he got the dog symbol, so he could be a dog.
Because as Dion says, every dog ain't a leader.
And every leader ain't a dog.
Ooh.
I like it.
That's real, too.
that's real
I honestly don't see
I see him as a dog
like we always say
guys are multiple things
but the one thing that sticks out
to me
I want to see if it sticks out to you
on three
one two three
stod
stamp it
why is he a stud
I would say he's a stub
because he's playing
144 plays
a game
well that's freaky
yeah actually
all right
all right
that's freaky
Right, right. He's a stud on the field because he's playing both ways.
He's a stud on the field because he's a freak.
Yeah.
Let's change it, Jules.
Let's change.
One, two, three, freak.
Yes.
I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty insane.
It's pretty insane to have 114 plays a game.
I hope he continues to have the success.
And by the time we drop this, maybe they'll be in the playoff.
What's wrong with us, Jules?
We both meant to say freak, but we both said stud.
I know.
But then we both knew to change it to freak.
Yeah, he's 100% of freak.
When you play 114 plays a game,
you're just absolutely freak of nature.
And he's making plays on both sides of the ball.
I mean, yeah, that's studly,
but that's more of like, whoa.
That's like, whoa.
That's some freakish material right there.
No ands, ifs or butts about it.
He's got some weird, crazy, like, numbers,
records where, like, he's got over 500 yards.
He's got, like, full.
interceptions, this, that.
He's done it like three times and one person's ever done it.
It was like Champ Bailey like 25 years ago.
So like this guy's in a, he's in a category of his own.
Thanks for listening.
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This is one of the most dramatic events that really ever happened in New York City politics.
I scream, get down, get down.
Those are shots.
A tragedy that's now forgotten.
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That may have been about sex.
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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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I'll take you to some wild corners of the tech world.
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In the new podcast, The Secret World of Roll Doll, I'll tell you that story, and much, much more.
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Was this before he wrote his stories?
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I'm telling you.
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