Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Travis Kelce, Greg Olsen, and Shannon Sharpe | National Tight Ends Day

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

It’s National Tight Ends Day this Sunday! In honor of the holiday, Gronk & Jules are getting on three of the greatest Tight Ends of all time: Travis Kelce, Greg Olsen, and Shannon Sharpe. We talk the smoothness of Travis Kelce. Gronk reveals how Greg Olsen helped him prepare for the NFL. We talk Shannon Sharpe and the dangers of Instagram Live. Our dudes wrap it up by building the greatest tight end of all time. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And for today's episode, we are celebrating what day? National Titans Day. And that's right. We are talking Travis Kelsey.

Oh. You ever get sick of people comparing them to you? It's really like not a comparison. But we're too totally different players to tell you the truth. Greg Olson. What was really cool

is that I was coming out of the University of of Arizona and Drew Rosenhouse had me called Greg Olson. He was the only player I called and did give me some great advice man. He was a very savvy guy as well. And we have a former legend and Shannon Sharper. Former? Or the most jacked out of all times. He's

fucking Jack. He said he's like you still play. And we'll break down their games, share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. And then we wrap the show by building the perfect tight end. Let's go. Let's go. All right, I'm going to break this down, Jules. This is National Tight End Day. So I'm going to break down the origins of National Tight End Day. And it's a holiday that celebrates NFL tight ends. Obviously, that's in the, you know, description of the title of National Tightens Day. And it's always the fourth Sunday in October.

I'm not sure who picked that. I think that was up to the NFL to do that. And it was Halloween. It's not Halloween. Close. It's close to Halloween. Actually, actually, is that Halloween? It could land on Halloween. It can. It can, but not this year.

It's not landing on it this year. Today is not Halloween, buddy. Yeah, it's not Halloween. And it was just inspired by a conversation between Jimmy Groplo, our, you know, former quarterback of the New England Patriots that we played with for a couple years. Jimmy Gouwop. And George Kittle. So obviously those conversations happened when Jimmy was with San Francisco.

Francisco 49ers. So we want to thank Bill Belichick for trading Jimmy Garoppolo. Thanks, Bill. To Sam France. So now they had that conversation. So now there's National Tight End Day. So thank you, Bill, for inspiring the tight ends out there and inspiring to have a day, you know, for the tight ends. Without you, it was never possible. Well, Coach Belichick, just being a little sunshine rate of happiness. He's always ahead of the game. He's ahead of the game. He's zigging while you're zagging. He's zigging while you're And I think it was officially adopted National Tightens Day in what,

2019, I would say. 2019. Yes. And on top of it, George Kittle has done a lot. Yes, we're not talking about George Kittle in this episode, but a huge shout out to George Kittle. And on top of it with these two other, you know, tight ends that we're talking about. Greg Olson and Travis Kelsk, a huge shout out to them for starting tight end you. Yes, it started about three years ago. Tighten U is held in Nashville. What's that university there again? Yeah, yeah.

Vanderbilt University. That's like, it's like a Harvard of the South. Yes, it is. And that's why I was only invited one time because it's the Harvard of the South. It's a very hard. So they just wanted to see if, you know, I qualified. And obviously I just qualified for one, one of the occasions out of the three. Now, Rob, what do you, what do you do to celebrate national tight ends day?

Well, the goals of national tight ends day was to increase the player record. condition because tight ends kind of were always under the radar. They really were, man. I mean, until like, you know, Tony Gonzalez, Jeremy Shockey, Antonio Gates. Helen Winslow, Calhwinzlo. I mean, they held the tight end position down, but it's not truly exposed like it is now these days. The tight end position is cool. Like kids want to be a tight end now. And that's what it's about. And it's also another goal is where to connect fans with players, personalities, because tight ends do have the best personalities. They are rock stars.

Dude. They do it all on the field, too. You got to know the past game. You got to know the run game. They're actually the second smartest player on the field. If you ask me, because the quarterback, they need to know everything. But the tight ends, they're second. They need to know the past game and the run game and kind of the defense that you're going versus the quarterbacks.

You need to know the whole entire defense. Also what everyone's doing, all their reactions, everything. So we're second place after quarterbacks, Jules. I'm sorry. Rob, it just hit me. When I was a kid, you know what I grew up and I wanted to be? Slot receiver. A slot receiver?

Why is that? Why did you want to be a slot receiver? I don't know. Why don't they have a day? Well, why don't we have a day? Well, I'm kind of, you know, pissed at you. Because today's tight end day and you're freaking, you know, you crossed your shirt out like I was, you know, practicing at. You put tape on your shirt like I was at.

I don't know who did this. Like remember it San Diego when I put tape on my shirt? Yeah. Yeah. I do. 69. And guess what? I got thrown out of practice if I didn't take off the tape.

So should I throw you out of here if you don't take out the tape? I mean, is that what tight ends do to slot receivers? Is that how you guys treat us? But tight ends are good guys. So I'll let you have that tape on your shirt. All right. Yeah. And it could be say slot receiver you.

It's not about you. We're taking over your position today. We're putting the tight ends in the slot position today. We don't want you guys on the field, okay? You know, slots are humans too. Yeah. Slots are players too. Yeah, they're slot machines.

Slots are players too. You're just used and abused. You put a quarter in and you spin that slot. You talk about the evolution of the tight end position, right? You guys, you know, in these last 20 years, well, you know, our position didn't even exist 30 years ago. Yes, it did. Didn't even exist. Yeah, they just didn't call it a slot receiver.

They just put the receiver and they said number two. It's erroneous. You eat your mouth. Eat those words. You eat those words. I know, Jules. I'm so sorry. I take it back.

I was saying the tight ends didn't exist back in the day. Yeah, but they did. Yeah. but they were just blackers. It's like another offense alignment in the 80s and 90s. It was basically another offense alignment. There was like three of them that actually went out and caught passes. Well, I mean, Dicca was a damn tight end.

He was a great tight end. He played 800 years ago. Yeah, he was the one. He was the one of the three. One of the three that you actually, you know, talked about and actually went out and received passes. Other than that, a tight end was just another offense alignment on the team. You know what the slot receiver is?

What's the slot receiver? Slot receiver is kind of like kind of like Seth, Seth Curry, you know, like maybe back in the day, oh, this guy's too small. He's in between positions. What do you?

Oh, he can just shoot? And oh, is he running back? Is he a receiver? Is he running back? What is he? Oh, he's short. He can't be a receiver, but he can't run through the tackle. So he can't be a running back.

Or should we put this good football player that can help my damn team? Oh, maybe we throw him in the slot. I don't know. That's a good point. I'm not arguing with that. But who's the Steph Curry of the slot receiver position then? I mean, you're, I mean.

West started it. Well, not. Troy Brown really did. Quain Corbett. I mean, there's a lot. It's so smooth. I mean, you're kind of like.

I wasn't, I wasn't. No, no. No, you were a different player. You're slot. I know what you're saying.

Yeah, you're Derek Rose. There you go. Got hurt. You're a point guard, but plain slot receiver. I got hurt, though. Yeah,

you got hurt. a couple times, but explosive. Wow. That's a good comparison right there. And on top of it, how else do we celebrate? I'll take Iverson. Let's get back to the national tight ends. It's about, it's about me today.

It's about the tight ends. It's about me. I don't care about you slot receivers today. Once it's National slot receiver day, I'll care about you. We can talk about you. We can talk about your position. All right. That they finally made a position for guys under 5-10.

I'm 5-10. 5.10 and 4th. Under 5.10 and 4. Wait up. All right. Back to the tight end. One second. One second.

One second. I'm just texting. Wayne Kerbett. West Walker, Troy Brown. Dion Branch. Yeah. Just made a slot. Slot receiver you just made.

Have you ever seen it accepted? You know that fake university? That movie about the fake university? That's what I just did right now. It doesn't sound original because the tight ends just did it. Let's get out of the show. Some ways we celebrate it as well is that what's cool is NFL distributes 30, you know, to all 32 teams.

They distribute, uh, tight end, you know, national tight end day shirts to all tie ends as well. And then they go out to pregame where their national tight end shirt, you know, everyone's celebrating tight end. I agree. You guys are studs. The fans are going crazy. You guys are studs possibly make a bobblehead of the tight end. If, you know, if he's well known. Yeah, you guys are studs.

If he's known enough to that fan base, they make a bobblehead. So tight ends are cool, man. Oh, they're really cool. You guys are the pedigree, the studs. Nah. But you know who, you know who possibly. You know who the guys are that, you know, no one really wants, no one really has a position for, you know,

they come in and get the job done when they do. Holdbacks. Sought receivers, Rob. Let's get onto our first step. They do get the job done. Slot receivers catch a lot of balls. You guys love catching balls. I love catching balls.

Yeah, it's like, what, like 100 balls a year? At least. Speaking of a hundred balls a year, let's move on to our first guest. Who's that? Who catches 100 balls every fucking here. Travis fucking Kelsey. This guy's a production machine. What is AI have to say about Travis, Michael, Kelsey, start the clock.

Now, Travis Kelsey is widely regarded as one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. Known for his exceptional receiving skills and athleticism. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. Off the field, he is seen as a charismatic and dedicated individual. Often praised for his leadership and community involvement.

Kelsey has made a significant impact on the Kansas City Chiefs, helping them secure multiple playoff appearances and a Super Bowl victory. And out AI, not, you know, right here. Super Bowl victories. You got to make it Polaro. He got, he got three. Yeah, he's got three. He's in the category.

Yeah, he's got three AI. I mean. What they say? Just Super Bowl victory? I knew we were smarter than AI. They're not there yet. Yeah. Yeah, Super Bowl and a Super Bowl victory says.

All right. He holds several notable records, including the most consecutive in overall seasons with a thousand receiving yards by a tight end. Recently, Kelsey has been in the spotlight for dating Taylor Swift, co-hosting the popular podcast, New Heights with his brother, Jason Kelsey. Killer.

And becoming the Chiefs. all-time leader in receptions, surpassing the legendary Tony Gonzalez. Oh, wow. And there's still a myth about Tony Gonzalez. That has nothing. So the urban legend. The urban legend.

We're not going to talk about it. We're not going to let that be. This is about Travis. This is about Travis. I mean, this is about Travis. Tony, we know that no matter what you are the number one tied in the world because of that myth. Good things coming three with you. Yes.

Good thing coming through with Tony Gonzalez. Oh, man. Killer Trab, man. Killer, killer, killer, killer, killer, Trap. He's so slippery. He is slippery. That's a good way to put it.

Slippery. Smooth. Flexible. Functionalable. He's got like a very reliable. He's got a very, I remember us talking about it. He just has that basketball body where like he doesn't get hurt. He's always, he's elegantly running when he runs.

He's faster than what you think. think and he's stronger than what you think and he's always in the right position always in the right position he knows how to find an open hole better than any tight end i have ever seen finding an open hole yeah in the defense julian okay the defense okay if it's zone you can find you know the soft spot yeah that's soft spot the soft spot of the zone and just sit in it what about man man coverage oh man he has he's got great bow routes you see him he get the top of his route he's he's so like like like savagy yeah savvy savvy savvy savvy savvy savvy savvy at the top of the route like he can go to boom boom boom like a basketball player dribbling when they're

when at the top one on one crossing over like he's got that and that's what truly gets them open as well and that's what makes him a great player is because of his knowledge in the zone game the ability find the open hole they'll find the where the grass is so he can sit there and Patrick Mahomes can just dump it right to him. And then also the ability to just be so savvy at top of the route and have that crossover type of skills. And then come, boom, make the DB confused or to safety or the linebacker.

That's rare a linebacker on him. To make them confuse what way he's going and boom, he breaks out and he has that separation. He can get that separation because of it. And when he has that separation, you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes. He's going to find you every single time and put that ball on the money.

Can you keep him separated? What's that from? That's a song. Can you keep them separated? Is that, uh, ooh, um, dang,

who sings that again? I know who that is. I don't know. Um, I'm getting a tattoo. Now I'm getting ink done. That's the same artist, right?

I asked for a 13, but they drew a 30 with offspring. Offspring. Yes. Yeah. You gotta keep them separated. I think that's the same song too, isn't it?

Yeah. Yeah, it is the offspring. Nan, man. Now, well, Travis Kelsey is like an offspring.

He's different. from every tight end. He's one of the best ever to play. That's being an offspring right there. Now, do you get a traditional guy? I got to ask you some. Yeah. Ask me, Jules. Ask me and I'll answer. I'm not scared. You ever get sick of people comparing them to you? Uh, you know, there's really like not a comparison. I mean, you can compare us, but we're two totally different players to tell you the truth. And like, it all depends on what type of scheme you're in as well. Yeah.

You know, like what they ask him to do with the Kansas City Chiefs, I could not replicate what he's doing with the Chiefs. If you ask him to do what I was doing with the New England Patriots, I don't think he could replicate, he could do it. Like, I could do what he's doing, but I wouldn't have been able to replicate what he's doing with the Chiefs at that level. Yeah. And they know how to use his skill set.

We have two totally different skill sets by far, like, by far. Like, he's savvy at top of the route. I was, I'm going to run. and I'm just going to go to the corner. And I'm going to outrun the guy. I'm going to use my body. I'm going to be physical. And Tom just throw the ball up.

And if the guy's on me, I'm bigger than him. I'm going to use my body, box him out and just go up and catch the freaking ball. All right? Just throw me the ball. There was nothing more to it. This guy has like eight moves. He's like a wide receiver out there. So we're two totally different players.

You can compare us because we both wear the number 87. So that's in comparison right there. But if he fit, you know, if you brought him to doing a pitch, I don't think he would be able to do what I was doing. he would be able to do it, but not to the capable level that I was be able to do it at. So we're different players, man. We're totally different players. He has mastered his skill set as well, just like I mastered my skill set and what I brought

to the table. But I mean, I'm not, you know, sick of it. I mean, he's a great player. I mean, he definitely belongs as the best tight end in the NFL or debatable as being the best tight end in the NFL due to his stats and what he has done for the position. but, you know, it's just an honor, I guess. It's an honor to be in the same category. Now, what if you guys were both in the same team?

I think we would be perfect to be both on the same team. I mean, I feel like we kind of counter each other. There's no doubt about it. Just the way, you know, like I was saying, how we were different players, his aspect of the game, how he, you know, can line up anywhere, how he can motion to any point on the field at any given time. I was kind of the guy like, Tom, though I really got motioned across the line of scrimmage. Like sometimes I was in the huddle.

like, I'm Tom, I know I got a motion here, but I'm just going to line up over there, man. I'm like too big to be motioning. Travis is lighter, you know, you can motion him around, you know, set him up. Yeah. I had that happen before. I remember. Yeah. You know, I got a lot of mass.

So we would compliment each other, unbelievable. And I would say that we would have been the best duel. I would say one of the best duels to play if we play with each other. Don't you think so? Without a doubt. Yeah. I mean, we kind of had that. Yeah, we did. I was actually, I was actually going to say that that we would, we would have broke the records of me and the other guy about, I won't mention names.

We broke basically every record in the book when, when it was him and I, number 85. Yeah. It was, I think he had like two numbers. I think he was 81 at first and then number 85. Yeah. So we broke every record in the book for being dual tight ends. Like, we had like what, 26 touchdown. at year and like, I don't know,

2400 yards just between tight ends. Travis Kelsey and I together would have definitely matched those numbers or produced even more. Then you at Slat Receiver, then Randy Moss out wide? Just, there's so much clutchness going on in that. Who would be our quarterback

there? Mahomes or Brady? Or we have them both and one would play one half? I got to go Brady. We got to go Brady. I know. I agree. Because we don't know how to play with, we don't know how to play that scramble drill. second play within a play. That was not like our four day. So those guys learn that. That scramble drill. Like Travis is always open when there's that second play within the play that Patrick Mahomes creates.

And they've got on such a wavelength where he's always in the open position. And he knows where to go. He reads and scans the field better than anyone. And he always finds open. And Mahomes always delivers it to him. So it'd be different. It'd be very different. Yeah, the second phase of a play. He's got that down to a science on how to get open. I mean, that's due to Patrick Mahomes being able to scramble like that. But Travis is also one of the most clutch players in the history of the NFL. There's no doubt about it.

When it comes to playoff performances or a tough regular season game, he has all the numbers. He has all the numbers. He has all the catches when it's that time to make a play. And he's swaggy as fuck. He is swaggy. He's smooth. But I swear it's due to the fact that, that he has that like basketball mentality, the basketball body.

Like, yeah, like he's not Jack. He has another dad bod like Patrick Mahomes in a way, but a little bit skinny, a little bit more proportioned dad bod, I would say. But those guys, man, I'm telling you, they don't get hurt. They don't pull muscles. And it's because they're not tight. And he's not tight at all. And I swear that's what makes him the player that he is.

He's, yeah, fluid is a word that I'm looking for. Mm-hmm. Dude, he's easy. Mm-hmm. And people are worried. about him right now. Why? I'm not worried because his production's a little down.

Yeah, he had a good game. But I'm not worried until, like, Travis is going to show up when the team needs him in December and January. That's like, that's when, that's when you need him. Okay, he got, he's 34 years old now. He's chilling until that point and he'll turn it on. And these jokers will probably go out and win again because he's part of that formula. Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reed, Travis Kelsey.

Spags and Chris Jones. And on top of it, he kind of is a complete tight end. He doesn't get the job done in the trenches. You're not going to put him one on one with a freaking 280 pound defense event. Like, you know, Coach Balochuk loved to do with me in practice and just, you know, get my brains, you know, just mush every day versus Rob Nikovic and all the other guys. He just loved putting me versus every single practice and just loved watching me, just bang my head every day and then go out and do it in games. But it was fun. I loved it.

That's why I did it and never complained. But, but he gets the job done. You want to know how I describe blocking James Harrison? That's kind of what he does. He's kind of got it down to a science. He gets in the way. He gets in the way. And he knows where the play has to hit.

And he knows springboard. That's all you need to do. That's all you need to do. If you got that down to science, which he does, and I've seen him do it, it springs the running back still. The guy does not make the play. So he's got it down. And tell you the truth.

He's a superstar. You're a super, superstar. He's dating Taylor fucking Swift, and they might have a kid. They should have a kid. They should. That would be a great kid. It would be what could be performing, like, you know, having eight catches a game, and then like halftime he's doing the halftime show in like 15, no, in like 24 years?

Probably sooner. Yeah. Taylor was on the scene when she was like 13. All right. So it would be like the new Ryan Williams. You know how he's 17 years old at Alabama? Yeah. So their kid would be like 14.

14 in college. They just surpassed like middle school because he's so smart. And then he would go like do a duet with like, he would go do something with Cuevo right after. Yeah. So and then he'll be in the league at 18 and then singing and performing at half time. Top 10 hits and a TikTok song. Dang, they need to have a kid if that's the case.

They got to have a kid. They got to. And we would be crazy not to talk about last year's AFC championship game. When all year, all year we kept on hearing people, not me, not me. Chiefs are done. They look old. They look slow.

Where's Travis Kelsey? What are they doing? Red Hot Baltimore. What are they doing Red Hot Baltimore? He goes 11 catches on 11 targets in the AFC championship when everyone knows they're throwing him the ball. That's a fucking, that's a killer.

That's why they call him kill a trap. Clutch. One of the most clutch players of all time. I did that already. How about when I first met him? My really first time of truly meeting him. I'm like, truly, truly, truly meet him. He came to Grank Beach, man.

It was really cool. He was in Vegas. It was in Vegas. The draft was in Vegas. And he came up to Grunk Beach. You were there. I was hammered, man. I was, I was hammered, actually.

It was one of the few times in the last few years where I was pretty hammed up. And I was awesome when I'm handed up, actually. You jumped on my back. I didn't even care who was on my back. I just started running around on stage, Jules, and you jumped on my back. And all of a sudden, Kill a Trave shows up. And we're having a dance off. on the stage. He can dance. And he can dance. Rob could dance, but I can dance like, kind of like

they're my own dance was, but he can for real dance. Because like we said, he's fluid. He's fluid. I got too muscular, man. I just never worked out like the way I worked out like in high school and college. Like I should have been doing like more pliability stuff. Yeah, right. Yeah, because that was kind of my model. Like that was kind of my persona being jazzed. Rob, you look like you were a, a senior in high school playing against fourth graders when you were playing. But imagine. You just fucking. Imagine like if I was looser and I could dance better and still be playing football. You could dance. You dance your own style. You're good. You're right. I'm the best at dancing my style. Ain't no one can match me. Ain't nobody matching. Mm-hmm. All right. Time. Let's drop in. What kind of dude is Travis Kelsey?

I mean, like, you kind of just said it already. You hit it right off the bat without even thinking about it, without even going over the categories. I mean, we got free. I don't really think he's a freak. He's not a freak. Maybe somewhere else. He's freaking the sheets, maybe. Freaking his sheets. Because, you know, but. Kill a trap.

But I, hey, that's all. That's all I'm going to say. That's how far I'm only going to go. But, but on the football field, like his physical attributes, no, not, not really a freak. Like we said, Dad Bob, but fluid. So, like, a freak is like D.K. Metcalf. Like, that dude's freaky. Yeah.

He eats like Cheetos for breakfast and he's got a 19 pack. Yeah. Exactly. This guy. A dog. He's definitely a dog. He's definitely motivated. Trap is a dog.

I think he's a dog. He is. He's a dude too, I bet. I bet. He's so cool. And in the locker room guy here. He's a stud.

Drink some beers with you. He's a whiz. He's, because he knows how to get open. I wouldn't say he's like a true whiz, but he's a whiz and at his position. Kind of just like myself. Tight ends don't know.

We know the whole playbook, but we're not like the smartest, you know. We know what we do. just need to know. Rob, you didn't miss up much. Yeah, but like I said, we know what we need to know. Hey, so is he a stud?

Is he a stud? He is a stud. He is a stud. He is a stud. He's a pet. He definitely a stud. But is he a dog. I think it's between stud and dog. I think because he went to Cincinnati and he was a fifth round draft pick or fourth round, third round draft pick, he had the troubles in college with the marijuana bullshit. That's why he dropped to the third. I think that's like kind of being more of a dog. dog. Because if you're getting in trouble for that stuff and you're still going out and performing, studs don't get in trouble for that.

Studs don't get in trouble. Studs can get out of it. You've got to be a stud on the field and off the field in order to be label of stud. Yeah. And like getting in trouble for that. That's, it's kind of a weak thing getting in trouble, but it's also a dog. It's a dog. It's a dog.

You get in trouble. A dog goes in its cage and it comes back out. That's a dog. That's a dog. He's a dog. Staph to dog. Dog. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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Ladies and gentlemen, our next tight end here on National Tight End's Day, who also started Tighten U at Vanderbilt University every year that I went one time because I failed after I went because it's the Harvard of the South. Hard place. Yeah, it's a hard place. Very beautiful I heard. Never been. is. Greg Olson. Greg Olson. Greg Olson. What is the, what does AI say about Greg Olson?

All right. Greg Olson. Start the clock. Greg Ocean. Oh, ocean. I like that. Yeah, well, his hair looks like an ocean. It's all over the place. It kind of looks like a hurricane. All right. All right. Greg Olson is celebrated as one of the top tight ends in NFL history, known for his reliable hands. we were talking about that early. It's the most reliable hands in the NFL. This guy had hands. Yes, he does. And route running skills.

Off the field, he has admired for his dedication to family and philanthropy, particularly through his heart test yard initiative. Heart test yard initiative. Heart test. That's a handful. That's a hard test. That's a heart. Heart test.

Heart test. Yeah. Oh, heart. All right. It's particularly through a handful. heart test yard initiative. I like that. Which supports families of children with congenital heart. Coginital.

It's like we said, everyone. We don't have the best vocabulary. This is dudes on dudes. We're learning as we go. We're not perfect here, but we get numbers right, okay? We get numbers right. What is AI is based saying? He's for the kids.

Yeah, we're for the kids. Yes. Olson made a significant impact on the Carolina Panthers, helping them reach Super Bowl 50 and becoming the first tight end in history to have three consecutive, a thousand yard receiving seasons from 2014 to 2016.

Wow. He holds the Panthers franchise records for most receiving yards. He's lucky I got hurt because I would have held that three 1,000 yard seasons in a row. But it's not about me. Why am I making about me?

Tard ends don't make it about yourself. Slot receivers do. Yeah, slot receivers do. It's our little diva in us because we're not full diva, but we got a little divv. It's about Greg Olson here. Heels of Panthers franchise records for most receiving yards,

receptions, and 100 yard receiving games by a tight end. After retiring, Olson transitioned to a successful career in sports broadcasting. He's one of our teammates right now with the Fox team. He's really good. Ferdor showcasing his football acumen. He does have a lot of football acumen. I can tell you that. What is that like?

Like knowledge. Knowledge. Another word for knowledge. Cinnamon for knowledge. It's not a synonymous. Synonymous, yeah. Cinnamon. Fricin, cinnamon, right?

Cinnamon. Yeah, cinnamon. I like cinnamon. He's tasty. He's tasty. Yeah, okay. No, wow. This is bad, Joel.

This is bad. This is just being dudes, though. This is what it's all about. Dude's just being dudes and just showing you who you are. We're not perfect. It's cinnamon, bro. Yes. Cinnamon.

That's same now for now on. Yeah. For now on. It is. A. The English dictionary better change that word to the cinnamon. Cinnamon. Cinnamon.

man. Now, well, you want to know what Acumen means? I kind of know that from back of my head. I was reading a book the other day, had the word. It's the ability to make good judgments and quick decisions. And that actually explains Greg Olson in his game. And that's why he had over a thousand yards in three seasons in a row because of his quick decisions. And when you're really quick at top of the route, when you have a two-way goal like Greg Olson, his favorite route of all time, he kind of runs kind of like diagonally to like the 10-yard mark where he has to go. And then the linebacker sitting there at a safety and you got to either split right like a bow or split in. What's the split in route where you like a middle read. No, no, no, not a middle read like kind of like a cross. No, no. You go and it's like a angle, an angle route. But it's at between a 10 yards and 12 yards. You can either bow it or angle it like an angle at 10th.

Middle read. Yeah. No, because it's not a middle read because you still, a middle read is when it's post double safety high and you can go in the middle. So he was so good at making that decision and being decisive of should he go out on the guy? the defender should go in and that's where he made his bread and money bread and money bread and money you just went full will feral in old school right there yes did you guys see that that's his acumen did you guys see that's his acumen he literally just went ladies and gentlemen will feral in old school at the fucking last thing where he competes the debate and he did you black out right there i did black out

and like old school welfare was blacked out many times frank the fucking tank no Greg Olson I mean we threw on that film and he's a lot more athletic than you remember uh he wasn't like a guy that was gonna kill you with his athleticism but he had such great hands like he he would go up and make those one-handers he did a lot of one-hander catches he had great ball skills and he was a very savvy guy as well. And he wasn't like he's small guy. He's 6-5-255 out of the U. What's up with the U and the tight ends? Tighten you, man. Is that what? They were called tight on you, man. When I was a kid, Miami. Miami is probably who's tied on you now? Iowa. Iowa is tight on you now, but the University of Miami. Oh my gosh. They're producing tight ends left and right, man. Shockey. I love Miami.

Olson, Bubba Franks, Joku. Oh my gosh. Joku is like the new new school version of of Tideon, you at the University of Miami. But, man, who were they producing tight ends, man? University of Miami was, ooh, they were on point. And he was, he was a track star in high school. Yeah, he was. Javelin. Javelin.

Maybe that's why he was so good with his hands because he was always using his hands and track. Throwing it? Yeah, just throwing, like holding, you know, that javelin stick. I've never met a javeliner. Yeah. I guess I have. Like, what do you do?

you get no how do you throw it like that that's called a shake wake oh shake weight oh that's a shake weight never threw a jabble it's just like the spear oh they throw all right it's like a football throw i can you throw a football for like being a gladiator and throwing that spear and just boom toss it 40 yards exactly that's been like in so he did javelin i mean he the first thing you think of of greg olson look at that oh look at that that's good technology And he looks good. He's young. Look at that face.

He's beautiful. He got that. He was defined in high school. I don't know what happened. Like he's like one of those like tight ends with a dad body again. That's what made him last long. He lasted long. He lasted long.

But he was jacked in high school. He hit me up during that that 3,000 yard or the 3,000 yard seasons. He broke his foot. And I broke my foot. And I remember us communicating over the Jones. fracture. That was the first time I ever got, you know, a call from him. And to watch him on TV, he's killing the TV. He's, he's really knowledgeable about the game. He, uh, he's fun. He's got that little dorkiness in him. He does. He's got that little dork like that he plays, dad jokes. He's a

dad jokes off really well. He plays, he's a fun guy to be around. And, and he is who he is. Like, he expresses who he is. It doesn't matter, man. That's why you love him, man. That's what you love about people. He's not hiding himself at all. Never. No, never. And I trained with him, actually. I remember what was really cool is that I was coming out of the University of Arizona and we had the same agent, Drew Rosenhouse. And Drew Rosenhouse had me called Greg Olson. He was the only player I called to ask about Drew Rosenhaus and also ask about the training process of training for the combine and all that. And I remember Greg Olson did give me some great advice, man. He said, hey, you're going to think all the little

details are stupid, but make sure you do them all because those are actually the biggest things in the end. And I still remember that to this day, that he goes, do all the warm-ups, all the recovery things that you got to do after you trained all day. He says, just do all the details of the little things and you will be fine. So thank you, Greg, for the advice, man. I remember talking to you on the phone and just the advice of going through the NFL process. He was the only player I talked to through that time. So good dude, man, good dude. Wasn't, you know, looking out for himself, looking out for me on that phone call, which was cool. You think he called Bledsoe after Brady replaced him?

I'm in Rose mode. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, hey, Julian. I'm in roast mode. Did he call Bledsoe? But, oh, because Bledsoe got replaced by there you go. Sorry. I'm a tight end. We're a little slow, okay? Tight ends are sometimes a little bit slower, but where personalities are just freaking awesome. We are the coolest players on the field. I mean, we really are.

Name a tight end that isn't cool. Exactly. You can't. You're thinking about it. That means they really are. They really are. You, I know who's really cool.

Dallas got her. I was hanging out with him at Titan U when I was actually smart enough to go because it's the Harvard of the South, like we were talking about. And like, I was just hanging out with him. I didn't even know who he was.

I like, I know who did. Dallas Goddard was, but I had no clue what Dallas Goddard ever looked like. And like, this dude had the hair flowing everything. I was talking to him. Like, this dude, cool as shit. And then like two days later, I saw a picture of us online. And it says like Dallas Goddor and Rob Grancosky got it. I was like, oh my freaking God, I didn't even know that was Dallas got it. Guys running 70 yard touchdown. I just thought he was cool as shit. And that's what tight ends are. And Greg Olson's the epitome of that. Just cool as shit. Yeah, he is cool as shit.

Just cool as shit. Athletic. He had kind of that basketball stuff. He wasn't a burner. He had great hands. He made big plays for his team. He went to a Super Bowl. He's got crazy stats.

You know, he had the 3,000-yard seasons. What attribute, the best attribute or characteristic that Greg Olson contained in his pocket? His secret weapon was his route running skill. He's route running. His route running. one of the best in the game at the tight-end position. He'd like low you. I always see him hitting that bow route.

He'd marry his routes together. Remember he was really good at that bow route? Remember that cover four? I always see him hit in like the fringe shot where you're right outside the red area, the 20. And they'd always run that. They'd get cover four and they'd run that post and he'd run that bow route.

And they'd hit him on that. I remember seeing that one, we installed something. We stole it from them because we were copying it. We liked the way they ran it. And he'd run that bow route and he caught it right on that one yard line. He's really, I mean, he's just, he's a, he's an awesome guy. He doesn't, he doesn't care about his looks. He doesn't care about like what's going on out there.

He just cares about being a good dude. Being a family man. And that's why I love him, man. I love being around him. He's always so positive. And he can also, by the way, when, I, when I train with him when I was young, too, the guy just never stopped talking. Never stopped talking. And it was always the best. It was always entertaining. That's why he's on TV.

And literally from the first day I met him, I was like, this guy is going to be a commentator one day. He's going to be an announcer. And then he actually landed perfectly in that spot after his football career. And when he signed with Fox, too, and I think it was like the first year he signed with Fox was like the first year I did when I first retired. I did a couple games as well. And I was literally just thinking my mind, just talking to him, this guy has landed in the perfect field for him. Like he's so good at it. Great storyteller.

So intelligent. Yeah, great storyteller. And he looks like Grizzly Adams a little bit. He's got an under, he's got an under, under, under, under, what it? He's got an underrated chin. If Grizzly Adams did have a beard. Yeah. Happy Gilmore.

Coming out, number two's coming out soon. A little mad at Sandler for not hitting this up. I know, isn't you a New England guy? No. Adam Sandler, New England guy. He's from New Hampshire. New England players. But his family grew up in.

Like, I don't get it. New York. Like, and that's my favorite movie of all time. Yeah, he is in it. But. We didn't get hit up. We didn't get hit up. I mean, I can't hate on Travis being in.

I can't either. Travis is freaking Travis. I mean, he's top of his game. On the field, off the field, like, I'm just disappointed and happy Gilmore productions, I guess,

or what is it? Billy Madison. Happy Madison. Happy Madison. Well, now we're giving him shoutouts and he didn't even want us in his movie. I know.

I know. We got no hate, Jules. No, we still love him and we're still going to watch Happy Gailmore, oh, without a doubt. No doubt about it.

And Happy Gilmore is still my favorite movie. I actually watched it about three weeks ago. was on TV and I never turn it off. This is why I loved about Greg Olson. He said he talked a lot. He does talk a lot. And that kind of explains why he came out with a rap song. And it was good. It was really good. It was really awesome and explained a lot of details on how they lived life at the University of Miami, which was really cool. I was a big fan, no doubt about it. You were probably a big fan as well. I never listened to it. I'm not, I lied right there fully. But it was called the seventh floor crew rap. Yes. And it was a lot.

legendary rap song by some of the Miami players in 2003. And they were just doing it, I think, as a joke from what I've heard Greg Olson say before, like just to have fun and it just blew up out of nowhere. But it kind of made, you know, the universe of Miami even more, you know, prominent in my mind, especially at the tight end position. One of his, I think what was his, his name was third leg, Greg? Was his name third, third leg, Greg? Well, scary weather was in it.

Yeah, scary weather. Third leg, Greg, his name was. And John Beeson. Oh, he was a beast, man. He was a beast linebacker. That's fun. We got to listen to that. Yeah, we do.

We'll put it out on Insta. We want to hear what you guys say in the crowd. Robert, what would your rap name be? Kind of think. I've said it plenty of times before. It's kind of easy, basic. Robbie G, the one and only? Robin G.

Robbie G. The one and only? Yeah. Yeah, Robert G, the one and only. Kind of a long name, though. So maybe that's not it. I think my name would be... Like, the Jewelster?

No, it'd be... The Squirrelster? Young Squirrel J. Young Squirrel J. I want a better name, though. Robert G., the one and only is too long. Come on, Jules. I just went three...

Young, school, J. Yeah, that's quick and easy, right to the point. Young Big Peace? Yeah, young big piece. You just throw young in front of anything. It could be... Mr. Big Peace. Young Big Peace.

Because I carry a massive gun with me. I'm dangerous. It's loaded. Yeah, it's loaded. It's National Tide End Day. People want to rob me. All right. All right.

Let's do. We got a rap name, generator, to find the perfect rab date for Rob. All right. What's your favorite TV character? We'll go with SpongeBob. SpongeBob. Oh, this is going to be a gangster name. Your real life first name.

Robert. Robert. Your real life last name. Granowski. The name of a criminal. Whitey Bulger Whitey Bulger Something really pleasant

Bulldog Because I have a French bulldog So you can't write French Bulldog And you can't write the name Ralphie You've got to let them know And Bulldog is pretty aggressive Because rappers like Bulldog So this is going to be aggressive name

I like it I like this I like this An adjective to describe you and your music I want this name like gangs I want it to be hard So I would just say rap rap. I like that. Because we're going for a rap name anyway, so.

And your name of your favorite child. Oh, junior. Junior. Junior. I had a dog. I had a dog named Junior. It was, um, what are those dogs? Uh, a pug. Pug.

Pug named junior. Let's see. Yeah. Bulldog gronk. I guess we're just sticking with the one and only. Robbie G. the one and only. I'm Robbie G. the one and only. If you don't know me, I'm sorry. If you want to, I don't want to say the rest because it's very, it's very, it's very.

That's why I stopped the first time. Time's up. What kind of dude is Greg Olson? Okay. I mean, he's not, he's a freak, but he's not a freak. He's not a freak. He's kind of got that, you know. He's definitely a dude's dude.

He is a dude's definitely maybe a whiz. He is a whiz as well because that knowledge, that's why he's such a great commentator. And that was replaced by. He was a first round draft pick. Yeah, he was a first round draft pick to the Chicago Bears. Kind of a slow start. They traded him to the Panthers. But, you know, everyone has a slow start when they,

get to the NFL. Not everyone, but a lot of guys do, but it's okay. He picked it up in Carolina, but, uh, so what are the two that you were leaning on? Uh, I'm going to go with whiz, dudes, dude, um, kind of a stud in a way, because he's a stud. He just owns whatever, you know, he just owns himself. He does. Blonde hair, six five, blue eye. He is. Like, you see that jabbling picture? He looks like he should be on a weed. I'm going to go with, I want to go with whiz, though. We don't, we haven't had many whizs is and he's a whiz because of his knowledge and, just the way he can explain anything, break down anything, to be able to get open in many circumstances on the field. And he was a smart player.

He was clutch. He was clutch for his team. He was clutch for his team. Let's move on to our next guest. So I'm just going to check my no Instagram live here. Oh, well, hold on. Let me check my. Are you off?

I have a text message, though. It starts with Dix and inertia wave. What? Yeah. Dicks in inertia wave? Yeah. What is that? That's the first four words. So, oh, Dix and Inertial Wave are collaborating with Rob. What is that? A tech? Am I accepting this collaboration? Oh, Dick's sporting good. Yeah, Dick's sporting good.

Oh, Jesus. But it says Dix and inertia wave. Like, this is getting raunchy. But it kind of goes with Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharper. And his Instagram live. So make sure those Instagram lives are turned off right now, ladies and gentlemen. because we don't know what may happen. Start the clock. What's AI got to say about O'Shannon. Oh, Shannon. Shannon Sharp is renowned as one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history, known for his exceptional athleticism and competitive spirit.

Off the field, he is admired for his character. Off the field, he is admired for his charismatic personality and dedication to community service. That was community service on that Instagram life. made a lot of people happy. A lot of people happy. A lot of people got happy. Yeah, they sure did. And entertainment, too.

Entertainment, hey, that's community service. That's serving the community. Yes, it sure is. All right. They're getting a little out of hand now. Chart made a significant impact on the Denver Broncos and Baltimore Ravens, winning three Super Bowl titles and becoming a key player in their offenses. He was the first tight end to surpass 10,000 receiving yards.

I don't even have 10,000 receiving yards. He's a monster. And this was back in the day. Back in the day. That's beastly. And held the records for most receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns by a tight end

at the time of his retirement. Sharps' post-retirement career as a sports analyst has farther solidified his influence in the football world. And he's not just a analyst in the football world either. He's an analyst in all of sports,

which he is like, he is broadened his, his fan base big time by, you know, breaking down basketball. Basketball. breaking down, what bad man, if he had to. This guy can do it all in the broadcasting world. He went up with Skip, him and Skip.

Like, he could battle him. He could talk. I mean, there's no, that's, he's famous for a reason, not just his podcast, Uncle Shay, Shea, and everything that he's got going. This guy's like, you could tell he's a fucking smart guy. He looks like he could still. play. He sure does. He looks like a linebacker now as well. He looks like he's jacked. He can go out there and just level fools and just get right back up. He is jacked. And I think he posted an Instagram

within the year of him benching still. And I think it was like 385. It was around there. Don't quote me the exact way, but it was right around there. And he put it up like five times as well. Jesus. He's huge. Jacked. He, I watched a lot of the films and the miced up and stuff. Yeah. He could talk some shit too. Oh, he's one of the- Shannon Sharp could talk some shit. He is the biggest shit-talking, tight end in NFL history.

Without a doubt about it. No doubt about that. How about when he, when he came to Foxborough, one of the old stadium, back in the day, obviously he was playing in the 90s, and he picked up the phone,

the red phone. And no one picks up the red phone. No one picks up the phone. You get, you get your ass-busted if you pick up that phone. Hey, hey, someone called the president. where, what did he say exactly? We just,

someone called the president. We're killing the Patriots, sending the troops. Man, something like that. It was right along those lines. Right, right. Yeah, we are killing the Patriots. Someone call the president. We are killing the Patriots.

And this is back before, like, talking to the cam. Like now we see players always talking to the camera on the sideline or before a game, pregame, post game. Like, Shane Sharp was an innovator of, of a lot of that. Like when you get, you'd see the guys warming up in the warmups and stuff. He'd always engage the camera.

Like, and let you know he's about to run up all over your ass in the game that week. And start talking to the fans. He's fucking crazy. He is crazy. I mean, he has wide receiver bill because I think he was drafted as a wide receiver as well. Was he?

Yeah, he was. And then he put on some weight. Obviously you got to put on weight if you're dropped it as a wide receiver. Went to the tight end position. But that kind of explains why he was such a great route runner. because he was a receiver coming into the NFL. And that kind of explains why he's so jacked as well,

because he had that skinny frame and then he had to hit the weights hard. There's no doubt about it. He has like this downhill speed. Like when he gets going, he catches that ball, he's gone. Gone when he catches, he's gone. He was out of his hell. He's a freak. Run by, yeah, he is a freak.

There's no doubt about that. He's low-key kind of a freak. I don't even think we got a debate at the end. I think he's a freak no matter what. Well, we know he's a freaking them sheets. Yeah, it is. I mean, that. At Instagram live, back to Instagram live real quick.

You think it was set up. I mean, to get into Instagram live, you have to open up your phone. Your face has to be recognized. You got to put your password in. You got to hit Instagram. Then you got to hit the story button. Then you got to move over to the right and hit Instagram Live. And then when you hit that, it says, are you sure you want to go live?

And then you got to hit yes. I mean, I still think it's an accident. Is it an inside job? It's an accident. It was an accident. Was it a girl? Or was he live before? I don't know the story that well.

Was he that before and accidentally put his phone down? I'm not sure. But I mean, it was entertainment. I mean, I didn't listen. He was getting the job done. I didn't listen either. What a hell of a career. One, what do you want?

Three Super Bowls, two at the Broncos and John Elway in that late Bronco surge of John's career. And then he went to the Ravens and was part of that founding block of foundation for that organization. Him and Ray Lewis, like Ray was the guy that had the team. And it was like always, they always had like, that weren't necessarily like big-name quarterbacks. It was more of playing to the defense. And, you know, the guy in the offense that was always represented with Shannon Sharp. That's what I remember as a kid when you watch the Ravens.

It was Shannon Sharpe's team on the offense. And that's, that's crazy. The crazy thing about Shannon is his brother Sterling. And the amount of respect he had for his brother who he had like a, what do he played? How many years? He played seven years in the league, got cut with the neck injury, got cut short with the neck injury was like tearing up everything was all pro five times led the NFL in receptions a few three years and it was really cool to hear when shannon got inducted to the hall of fame that he

would be the only guy up there in the hall of fame that had a brother that was better than him he said something along those lines i'm paraphrasing so you have to give a shout out to sterling and and he was he was really good on tv back in that too i well shout out to sterling as well because actually i didn't know any of this has ever occurred. I didn't know that Shannon had a brother. He was a monster that played in the NFL that thank you for the facts, jewels, thank you for the knowledge. We're always here to learn. That was pretty cool that you know more about a tight end than, then, you know, I know about a tight end. So that was cool. It's pretty cool to hear the brother, brother. It is. Like, he had an older brother. Like, do you have any of those stories where your older

brother, like, punked you into? Of course. That's why I also think it was really cool that you share that story because I got three older brothers and one younger brother played on their teams growing up played same football teams in high school and college and didn't remember Dan was on our team yeah the New England Patriots for for a little bit yeah big piece he he does have a big piece uh it's dark as well yeah so it's like like a double whammy big piece yeah double whammy big piece yeah it's tan I guess I don't know that's what I've heard that's what his wife told me. You're his brother.

You've definitely seen his dick. No, no, he's never shown me. I was making fun of him one time and his wife came in like, well, he has a bigger and darker dick than you. And I was like, well, I know that, but I'm going to keep making fun of him. Like, I already know that. That's why I am making fun of him so I can make myself go. Okay, back to Shannon Sharp, who has a sharp piece.

Cool. Why are we all, Jules, why are we talking about this stuff? I don't know. Yeah. I mean, this is dude talk, though. This is dudes on dudes. Like, this is so great, because whenever we get off, you know, subject and topic and everything, we can always just blame it on the name of the show.

It's just being dudes. And no lie. That's what dudes do, man. Dudes talk about, it's weird. Why do dudes talk about piece sizes so much, like when it's just the dudes, like, on the couch watching the game? I don't think. Why is that? I don't know.

It always comes back to that. It's weird. Mono e. Mm-hmm. Fourth leg. The greatest trash talker of all time. I was watching him on the whatever NFL, one of those NFL shows, top 100 shows, wherever.

I had the NFL channel on. And someone told Shannon Sharp before, don't quote me exactly. It's just along these lines. They said, hey, Shannon, you want to be famous? You want to be well-known? Then don't block. And Shannon Sharp took that to heart.

And he went out there and goes, I'm going to go out there and catch passes. I'm going to go out there. and I'm going to be well known. I'm going to be famous. And I'm going to catch past the score, touchdowns and get first downs. And that's sure what he did.

But he wasn't that bad of a blocker either. He went out there. He got it done. He's kind of one of the first tight ends, revolutionized the tight end position as well. And to open up in offense at the tight end position. And he's kind of more of an H-back titan as well, kind of shorter, more stalkier.

And he got the job done. He could run. He runs like a deer. He was, I mean, he didn't have all those stats for not being great. I mean, he's a monster. Did you ever watch that Cat Williams interview? Nah, I haven't, but I didn't either, but I just remember the hype of that whole thing. That's what, that's what happened with Cat Williams went on like a three-hour rant.

I feel like Shannon would be a great time to hang out with. I bet you. Back in the day when he was your teammate and you went out to the club with him, he would be a freaking great thing. He would go up and talk to any girl, I bet. He just talks trash 24-7. He would go up. He'd be in the club talking to like eight girls at once talking garbage about his teammates are hyping you up like he better than, hyping you up. He'd be hyping you up. You see my boy over there?

You see my boy over there? You see my boy over there? You see that touchdown he had? You see that? He needs a girl like you tonight. He needs a back massage. He needs some relaxation. We need him ready for next week. Can you please go over there and just sit on his lap?

I'm telling him a good looking guy. I see, I've seen him in the shower too before I'm telling he's looking at him. He's looking at him right over there. Yeah, ultimate hype guy, but I bet you'd be like that. But he probably, You probably hate playing against him. Like, we never played against him. You probably hate playing against Shannon Sharp.

Just because of A, his production, how good he was. And B, he let you know how good he was. Most ripped tight end of all time, too. He's got, he's up there. Oh, up there. He is the most ripped. Look at him. He's fucking jack.

Jack. Biceps freaking sticking out. He loved that Hennessy. I see. I've seen him drinking Hennessy. Is it a bunch, right? There's always pictures. I swear he'll be working out.

I don't know what it is, but this guy, I don't know how he can drink that alcohol and look that great. God touched him because he, he's fucking a monster in a great way. Who were some of the best trash talkers you played against? Oh, Troussox. He was great. T. Sizzle? Yeah, T.Sizzle.

Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. T. Cissel was great, man. He was a scary player as well. He was massive. T. He says I love to talk, talk garbage. What do he say to you?

I mean, it was so long ago. Yeah. Yeah, it was so long ago. Like, fuck you, grown? Yeah. Like, just shit like that. I'm like, I'm gonna kill you grown. No, no, he loved.

He loved the talk, like, over the line and over me and just direct it right to Brady. Did he? Always, always, man. He was just directing it right to Tom every single game. And then I would be in front of him. You ain't touching Tom. I'm here. I'm chipping your ass.

You ain't getting to him. Yeah. But I would never talk garbage back, really, to him. because he was scary too. Yeah, he was scary. Yeah. T-s-sizzle. I don't know.

Bart Scott said, fuck you to Billy O's. Remember that in the playoff game? Yeah, Bart Scott. Bart Scott. I remember when Bart Scott went up, right? He was three inches from Billy O'Brien's face

and said, fuck you white boy. And Billy O's T-Kettle, he goes, Bart! I love him, Billy O yells, man. I always got me excited

and always got me. going. Oh, they beat our ass that game. That was when we were 14 and two. Yeah, they did. They beat our ass in that division. Yeah, they did. We should have never lost that. What was it? What was the Bart Scott's thing? Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait to lose the next game. Ten minutes is up. All right. What kind of dude is Shannon Sharp? I mean, freak. Absolutely freak. He's in the weight room, freak on the field, freaking the freak in the sheet. It's just freak on the undisputed show, freak on serious radio when he was on. He's been a freak his whole life. He's freaky.

He's freaky, freaky, freaky. He's also, he can be dog. Oh, a little bit. But he's more of a freak. He's a freak. He's a freakie Friday. That's Stamp. He's a freaky Friday.

Freaky Friday. We'll be right back after this quick break. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.

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hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Geno World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And before we wrap up our show, in honor of National Tid Ends Day, we're going to build the perfect tight end categories football IQ blocking ability the hands personal the personality and the swag football IQ who do you go sorry just really thirsty and hot

just talking so much about tight ends nice because I love tight ends it's a it's a it's a position you know it's probably makes me swim It's the big guy gets spent. The big guy gets... Just trying to cool off. Woo. Off. I love tight end day.

All right. All right. Back. All right. We're back. We're back to building the perfect tight end. The perfect tight end. All right.

The categories are football IQ. Ooh. Blocking ability, hands, personality, and swag. Ooh. Football. IQ. Who's one of the smartest tight ends out there in the game? Probably Greg Olson. I was thinking that. I was thinking the same thing.

If you're thinking that and I was thinking that and you said it right before I was going to say it, then it's Greg Olson. He's a smart guy. Very smart guy. And that's also why he's one of the best commentators of all time just right away like that because he's that smart of a guy. He can break down the game of football like that and make it easy for you to understand it. Greg Olson has the football IQ that we want in a titan. Blocking ability.

Blocking ability. You want to know who I'm going to go with? Mark Bovaro. Mark Bovarro. Blocking ability. Was the best blocking tight end out there. Coach Belichick still talks about him to this day because he coached him when he was, you know, with the Giants back in the heyday. That's how old Coach Belichick is and that's how much experience he has in the game of football.

But Mark Bovaro, I have a friend who played against Mark Bavaro who still swears to this day that he has the strongest hands that he ever felt. Strong hands. And I'm talking this guy, that's my friend, is a psychopath. Like, he don't take shit. He'll freaking. Who's your friend? Donnie.

Donnie. You met Donnie real quick. Went to the University of Arizona. He got me to the University of Arizona. Played played like two years on the Falcons in the NFL. But this guy would, freaking walk up to a wall, that concrete wall, and just drill his forehead into the wall until the freaking concrete wall breaks open. And he'll walk away, totally fine.

He's that freaking tough and strong. And he said, Rob, Mark Bavarro put his hands on me. I never felt hands like that in my life. And he threw me across the freaking field. Well, we could put you in both of those categories. It's Mike Bavarro. Mark Bavarro, hands, best hands tight end all times.

Oh, best hands. Well, Greg Olson has great hands. And, you know, we put them as a football. You can't have them twice. We're, you know, talking about each tight end, you know, Tony Gonzalez had great hands. Tony Gonzalez did have great hands. Kellyn Winslow, the dad.

Great hands as well. Who is the ghost? Casper. Who did he play for us? He played for the Raiders. The Raiders? That's what, yeah. He used to always have a great game.

Wait a second. I seen, he made one of those greatest catches of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like over his head. The Willie Mays. Yeah, the Billy Mays. So I know exactly who you're talking about.

Yes. You're in there. Yeah, I'm in there. You can toss me in there. there for some great hands. But I think you got personality. Yeah, I'll go with personality. You can put me okay. We can put myself under personality. I'll take that to us. I mean, you could be unblocking. You could be in hands. But no, we're talking about the greatest player. Like we're putting, we're billing the greatest tight end ever. So who's the best hands?

I had good blocking ability in hands, but we're talking about the best. I'll go with, uh, you never dropped a ball, though. Once in a while. But that's because my wrists were tired. Your wrist, you're tired. Yeah, my wrist retired. You see, you dropped the ball. I like it. From doing what? Just rice scraps. You know, when you squeeze the rice and you twist. Strengthen your hands.

Yeah, straight in my hands. Some reason I got bored that morning before the game and I was doing it. Yeah. All right. For all you young kids, no rice, no rice hands before a game here. This might get tired. So should we go? who's the best hands?

Who does AI say the best tight-end hands have? But we're not here that get AI's answer. I know, but I want to hear what they got to say. I'm on a mission to stomp out the AI. Remember Belichick you say? I'm on a mission to stomp out bad football this week. You're offside to take a lap. You're holding, you're holding.

We're putting rackets on your arms. AI agrees with me. Tony Gonzalez. It's Tony Gonzalez. Best hands. Tony Gonzalez. call it. Yeah, I thought so too. I mean, we said it. Swag got to go trap. Yes, Travis Kelsey. So I got to go. Travis Kelsey. Swag got to go Travis Kelsey. So let's let's let's recap it.

The football IQ is Greg Olson. The blocking ability is Mark Bavaro. The hands is Tony Gonzalez. The personality is Rob Gruncowski. And the swag is Travis Kelsey. What about like body? That should be grunk too. You want your you want your, you want your. tight end to be fucking large. Yeah. And in charge. Yeah. Put me in there.

What about piece size? We'll go with my brother again. Yeah. Or Shannon Sharp. We don't know. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. But we heard.

We listened. And that's the best tight end ever built. Well, what would that Titan be? A freak, a stud, a wizard. It's all of them, right? Oh, yeah. It's all of them. I think it's the greatest.

If you take all the guys. categories you put them into one yeah you're right yeah that's kind of dude he is that's a dude that's a that's a super dude dude that's a super dude dude that's a super batman dude dude that's a super bat dude yeah that's it mad it's bad it's super dude dude uh it's infinite and beyond tell us what you guys think well that's been another episode of dudes on dudes happy national tight ends day what can we do better next episode. Please comment and review and please let us know. We can take critical punishment. We can take critical constructive criticism. Constructive criticism is what I was going for. We can take constructive criticism. We can take constructive criticism. We can take constructive criticism,

but no more from Bill Belichick. Not in this world. We've had enough. Not in this world. Not in this world. We're going to teach him how to do media. You're in our world now, Billy. Yeah, Bill. We're going to coach you. Hey, Willie. Little Willie.

We're going to coach you, Bill. Yeah, we heard you're on Instagram social. Yeah, we see you out there. Just remember, as long as we're around, there's only one sheriff in this goddamn town. Mm-hmm. All right, Bill. All right. We see who you're following.

Yeah. You ain't following us. Yeah, Bill. So remember, unlike Bill, remember to follow dudes on dudes. Yeah. on YouTube, Instagram, X, TikTok, and Snapchat. We'll see you guys next week. We'll see you every day, Bill, because you're everywhere.

We're coming from you. Subscribe on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Happy National Tidens Day. Happy National Tidens Day. I love all you tight ends out there. Thank you for being you. So sweet and dear. So sweet in here.

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