Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Voicemails

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

We're back in Boston and this week we're hitting the hotline to answer your voicemails! We're talking everything from post game meals, road trips, the new Pope, and a whole lot more. We wrap up the episode by crowning our Chillest Caller in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and. You don't know it. Five, six white people. Push me in the car. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you got to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it. Just accept it.

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Beast, you probably... I take it back. I would have been on the bench. Yeah. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Grankowski. And this is a show

where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And today we're hitting the hotline to answer your voicemails. That number is 561-203-5-7-8-9. What are we talking about today?

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Episode two here in Boston. Mm-hmm. It's always nice to be back. It's home. And what's the first thing that you do, Jules, when you're back in Boston? I know you like your spots that you eat at, you know, a spot where you go drink your coffee at, a spot where you, you know, go sip some champagne at. but what's the truest first thing that you do? Went to Mike and Paddies.

Brexford sandwich. I like their, what's their O.G? It's like their house-made English muffin, medium over-fried egg, American cheese, sausage, and a saracha ketchup on there. I get it because it reminds me of the facility. Remember I used to get the sausage egg and cheese.

That was like my first meal the day after my smoothies. It would be a sausage egg and cheese. You're making me hungry for breakfast right now. I know, dude. And they cook it. Mike and Patty's, they cook the egg. Perfect. Like, it's over medium, so it's like, it's not like jizzing in your face when you cut it.

Oh, Jesus. I'm not hungry anymore. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's always, but not anymore. You know, sometimes it gets sloppy when you have like an over easy egg and it burst while you take your, and I'm over here having to get wet wipes. That's what I get. What's the first thing you get or do when you come back?

Well, in the city of Boston, the first thing I typically do is drive through the city to get to your place, you know? So I get to see all the trees, how blossoms they are when the sun is out. You know, all the people crossing the street. Just feel the energy of the whole city and why it's such a great city. And you actually really see why it is when you drive through the city on a nice day. I mean, there's so many people outside shopping going out to eat, you know, for lunch, dinner, whatever it is. And it's just really, really cool to see. And you feel, you know, that energy of Boston strong as well.

So that's the first thing that I see when I go through. Because I don't live in the city. But, you know, and I usually get the cowboy ribby steak from Davios at Patriot Place. Yeah, it's easy. It's close to you too. Mm-hmm. You order it or you go in? I order it.

Curbside pickup. Curbside pickup. And that's why I still, you know, do it. You know, it's a go-to because I just put the order in. What's your side? What's a gronk side? What do you like? And it's probably like a green. You have some kind of green.

Asparagus. That makes your pee stinky. Yeah. You know. Which is a gene, by the way. Not everyone smells or produces that smell. Really? Yeah, it's a gene morph.

There's something that morphs in your gene that allows you to have that. I gotten a huge argument about it on that because I read about it. Well, I didn't read about it. Scientific evidence by Julian Adelman. I'll TikTok. Scientific evidence by Julian Edelman. Yeah, it's TikTok. About asparagus.

Tick-Tock source. I think some like 12-year-old taught me it. Peas smell or not. Yeah. Only if you have the gene. And then what's your starch? I have the gene. I'm a potato guy, but like garlic mashed potatoes.

Garlic mashed potatoes. Garlic mashed? Not like a nagrotton. The grottons where they like scallop the potatoes and then they saute them and then they put the cheese and like the creaminess in it. And then they go in. bake it so it's like the skin like the thin potatoes so kind of like a twice baked potato no twice baked potatoes where they carve it out and they mash it and then they put in all the juices and then

they put it back in the skin this is they scallop the potato so they thinly slice it they saute those they put it in a cream cheese sauce layer of cheese on the top bake it and it becomes casseroly yeah i'm a garlic mashed potato guy Yeah, Gronk likes it easy. Let's get in some calls. Yeah, let's do it. Let's answer some voicemails. Voicemails.

These are my favorite. Hey, Jules. Hey, Gronk. What was your favorite meal you would enjoy after? See, this is why I love these questions. Favorite meals. I just love answering like, what's my favorite meal? We were just talking about our first thing that we do when we get to Boston.

and it's you going to Mike and Patty's breakfast spy and ordering a sandwich and I'm going to Davio's place and ordering the cowboy ribeye for curbside pickup while this guy wants to know what our favorite meal was after a game after a game and I would say whatever the spread was that the new lincoln patriots was providing you know because after a game you can bring your family and friends in you know in like inside the tunnel to meet them after the game you know the to see your family and friends, and then they would have this huge spread the New England Patriots would provide, and there would be burgers, hot dogs, chicken tenders, with barbecue sauce, ranch, honey, mustard, whatever sauce you want with those chicken tenders, all tons of drinks that were lined up,

you know, as well. They always had a southern kind of food. There was always like, because a lot of the guys come from the south, so there was brisket, there was fried chicken, there'd be like beans and there'd be collie greens, and then they'd have like the whiter stuff. there would be like broccoli and like chicken fingers and like roasted barbecue burgers and hot dog you know so like they hit a little bit of everything you know you had the sole food and then you had like you know the white food so yeah you got you got it you got to hit both parties kind of

true right got hit both parties you got to hit both parties I mean the Patriots did not discriminate they did not discriminate on food so I now the quality of the food no no actually yeah you're right the quality of food of this food was actually perfect for the quality that you wanted after a game. Yeah. Put it that way. It was comfort food. Yeah.

You don't want to try to eat like a Tom Brady meal after a football game. No. It's hard to put down, you know, all the emotions, the heads. You want to put down a cheeseburger with ketchup and mayonnaise. But my favorite thing to do was take those chicken tenders and just dunk them in as much barbecue sauce that you possibly could and as much ranch or blue cheese that you possibly could. And that was my favorite go-to meal. after a game was those chicken tenders.

Yeah, I remember Grunk usually would take like four boxes of the chicken fingers back to his house. I would. And like, you would go to his house after the game and there would be a spread of what we had a spread of. At the post game, and Gras, you want some chicken fingers? So I'd say the chicken fingers too, Rob. Let's go to the next question. Look at the speaker we're using today. Oh.

Where? Oh, no way. Oh, shit. No way, Jose. That's tight. I love that color too. Like that light blue. What kind of blue is this?

I think that is baby blue. Carolina blue. It like really shines. Like I would look really good with a t-shirt that is this color. It would bring out your eyes. It would. And you're tan, so it would look good. Yeah.

Well, thank you, Kores Light for this. wonderful cooler with speakers on it that's always the best what's up gronk and jules this is gregg from delaware big pat fan and even bigger fan of the dudes on dudes podcast so i was wondering with josh mcdaniels back at offensive coordinator who's definitely a whiz by the way i was wondering if you guys could speak to any qualities that it takes to play in a josh mcdaniel's offense and then any qualities to look out for with the nfl draft coming up if there's any type of qualities you would see in a Well, before you start answering this question, Julian, I'm going to leave this one for you, well, majority of it.

But he's a big Patriots fan and he's even a bigger fan of the dudes on dudes podcast. So we made it, brother. We made it. We made it because these Patriot fans, they're big fans. They're all in with the Patriots. So that means they're all in with dudes on dudes. So we appreciate you, brother. Thank you.

Thank you, Greg. Yeah. I would say a good prerequisite to have. as a personality or a player in Josh's system is being a smart, tough football player that performs under pressure. That's what he's going to preach. You know, if you can remember your formations,

if you're a smart guy, you can be a versatile guy, you can play multiple positions, which you get that vibe out of Hendrickson in the second round that they drafted, a guy that could play that third down running back, pick up protections, put them out in the Kevin Falk's spots in the slot in the past game on those tiger formations and stuff.

Like I think Josh is going to be great for that. So like being a tough guy that's smart that knows how to get on the same page with Josh, I mean, it's not rocket science, but you just can't, you just got to be able to take in the install, which I'm excited. Mm-hmm. You hit it right on the nose, brother. And one other thing is that he gives everyone an opportunity to shine and showcase your skill.

So when you get that opportunity, especially if you're an undrafted free agent or if you're like a seventh rounder or six rounder, you got to shine in those opportunities. And if you don't shine in those opportunities, it's going to be the next man up. And he's going to let you know that too. So make sure you take advantage of those opportunities. That's what you did, Julian. That's what I did. And you got to be consistent as well out there on the football field. He loves consistent players.

But he's going to give you an opportunity. And it's going to be at one of your strengths. You may only get that nugget once or twice, whatever your strength is and your route type of route you run or your quickness or your long. He's going to give you that. You just got to make that play. And that's how you continue to gain this trust. And the more plays you make, the more opportunities you get. So that's what I think.

Smart tough football players are perform under pressure. Amen. How about this new pope being from Chicago? That doesn't mean anything for the Bears' hopes this season? Yo, when I found out, the smoke comes out, right? The smoke came out, right? With the little pigeon, I saw the video.

Yeah, the smoke comes out. New Pope from Chicago. When that came out, I went down to Vegas and I put a future bet that they would make the playoffs. I mean, the Pope went to the goddamn White Sox game back in 20-whatever. And what happened? They fucking sweeped them. they swept Houston.

Swept Houston. This guys. After the Pope was there, game one. It literally took them. It's going to literally take a Pope to make the Chicago Bears pretty good now. They're not going to make the Super Bowl, but they're going to make the playoffs because of the Pope. You make the playoffs. That's that's big for them.

That's a big step. I mean, the bear has also got hope that the Pope is praying for them every single day as well. So that's behind them. I mean, the Bears. The Bears. The Bears might be playoff decency because of the Pope. They got a Pope before they got a 4,000 yard passer, huh? They sure did.

Things are looking up. They got Johnson. They got a couple linemen. They got the Pope. Look, this is the bear season. They're hoping that Caleb makes that second year step. If there's any step to be made, I'm banking that. the Pope. You got the Pope.

You don't even have to be Catholic. Put all your money on the Bears making the playoffs. Yeah, pretty much. Oh my God. Everyone goes and puts all their buddy on. They go fucking three and... Well, I'm going to. I'm going to back it up.

I'm going to put some money on the Bears. I did. I told you when I saw the pigeon video smoke from the Vatican. I saw... I've been there. I've seen it. I saw a little dude's touching. Well, we're going to be rich.

Next question. All right. All right, fellas. Let me get right down to business here. Granch, greatest tight end to whoever, stepped foot on the grid iron. Jules, the greatest catch, not only in a Super Bowl, but of all time.

Blue guy, slot guy, nasty player. So, non-football related question here. What is the worst circumstance either of you have had to take shit in? Because, honestly, I just woke up. I got one loaded into the chamber here, and I think it's going to be a battle. All right, fellas, take it easy.

Keep up for good work. I really liked this guy. I mean, the props that he gave us and then just... Great intro. Just whatever. Just totally went off the beaten path and just brought that situation up. But we were just talking about shitty. We were.

How I just took 15 active wet dumps in the last two days. Yeah, I went to... Got a little sickness. I don't know what was going through me, but we were just talking about it before we started this show. Led the league and shit. So this is actually a great question right here. But I have the perfect scenario where...

It's the worst place to take a dump, especially for a guy my size. And that's on an airplane in the sky. It's like truly impossible for me already to go in there and take a piss at a comfort level. I mean, my elbow is basically sticking out in the hallway of the airplane still. And the door won't even close. Like, you know how you got to close that door for the door light to go on. The light's never going on with me in there. And I had to take a dump one time.

And I was praying. to the Pope that he would pray for me and not the damn Chicago Bears anymore, just to get me through that situation of taking the dump on the plane. Now, are you, are you calculating? The worst. Are you sitting on the toilet? Like, I got to do this quick because people were definitely saw me go to the bathroom. They definitely saw Rob Grunkowski a seven foot man.

I don't care about that situation. So you're sitting in there long as you can, hairy and fucking dub and dumber blowing up the bathroom? I don't care. I am comfortable. know if someone saw me taking a dump wippy dippy do you know my my butt crack has been pulled out plenty of times in game you know that picture on there google it gronk's buck crack while getting tackled the

baltimore raven's playoff game my whole ass is showing like you know just add a little piece of pooping there and then you see me pooping but uh what i worry about in that bathroom is my butt cheeks hitting that damn toilet are you are you hovering or do you spatt the i'm hovering i'm hovering so you're doing a squat the whole time you're Yes. Yes, that's what makes it really difficult. No, no, it's not even worse.

Spatting the toilet. We usually spat your ankles. You put tape on, you got to put the toilet paper on. You're also worried about turbulence as well while squatting over the toilet. Turbulance is a mine. Have you ever missed the bowl? Fuck. With turbulence?

I never missed the ball. No, I never actually had. Oh, my God. No, I only took a dump one time. And thank you to the Pope. He didn't make the, I make any turbulence. Yeah, that's a tough predicament to take a shit in. For me, my worst, he's got one in the chamber,

so he's got double dumping before 10 o'clock over here. I'd say anytime you're on a date or something, right? Like a first time date, it's literally like the dumb and dumber script. That's like the worst situation. Or like if you... Excuse me, babe, I just gotta go to the bathroom real quick. Or when you shart a little, like you, And you don't have anywhere to take a shit.

Oh. That's the worst. That is. That's tough. You thought it was a fart, but it was a little shit. But you caught it. But it could be a little moist in there. Which girls hate that.

Oh. Yeah, girls do hate that. They either want just a clean or they don't want no, like a chart where it's wet and farty. They're like, that's disgusting. Like, what if it's just a clean, loud one, it's fine it's fine it's manly yeah it's manly yeah charts are bad

chart no sharts let's go to the last next one hey jules hey grunk you know the boys and I are sitting down here in proff that's gonna go watch her buddy play lacrosse you know it kind of came across our minds why are manholes shaped in a circle

like why not a square why not a triangle let's get the circle I don't know we just want to know what you guys thought stupid question but oh well what is a manhole why why they circle because dude that's the ninja turtles went down there and they like pizza and it looks like a pizza and they used to throw it like a pizza dude it's fucking that's easy science dude i didn't even know what a manhole was it's the sewer drain thing huh yeah triangles because circle right yeah like a triangle like just want to go right

right. No, because that's circle of life, dog. Yeah. You don't put a square up there. What Julian said with the Ninja Turtles. Don't you remember in the video game they would come up and they would like throw them? Science. The circle on the manhole cannot fall into the hole. That's science. We'll be right back after this quick break. Here we go. Hey, I'm Kelpen. And on my new podcast, Here we.

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your podcasts. One gorilla. How many grongs and jewels do you think it would take to take one down? And what would your shed? How many gronks and Julian? I'd say like, are we, didn't they say the simulation would, uh, even a thousand, 10,000 wouldn't be able to do it? Are you, are we kidding?

10,000 humans wouldn't be able to take down one gorilla and an AI simulation. No? How big is this gorilla? I'm poking eyes. How big is the grill? I think it would take 200 me and 100 grunks. To take down a gorilla? Yeah.

I mean, 100 just normal people can't take down a gorilla. They're saying the gorilla wins. Yeah. Dude, put it in the same, put it in AI. Let's see what AI says. An average silver bag, which was one of the strongest, most powerful, 6, 200. Scrappy, tough, quick, gritty.

But not overpoweringly strong. What? Come on, dude, that's weak. Come on, AI. That's fucking weak. I was strong. Watch the tape. One of the strongest tight ends in NFL history, Rob Grinkowski. Known for absurd strength, durability, and blocking ability.

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distraction versus attack rolls A few Edelman's distracting Could let Gronks go for joint holds Or leverage One gronk And one Edelman Gorilla wins easily Two gronks and three Edelmans

Still loses But maybe a moral victory If they last more than 10 seconds five gronks, five edelmans, now it gets interesting. If gronk coordinates tackles while Edelman distracts and gouges eyeballs, maybe they win. Ten gronks, ten edelmans, enough mass and force to potentially subdue a gorilla through sheer numbers. So they're saying 10 of us 10 gronks and 10 adult nuts will take down a gorilla. So gronk, so like the first five of me are probably going to get decapitated, ripped out, and fucking gouged.

But that's the distraction. Yeah, but then like the second 10 of me or the second five of me, if I can get on. And like, because I've seen little ass like cats get on them. if I get on and I grab an eyeball and he's biting me and stuff, you got to go straight for dick. Mm-hmm. Oh. You go straight.

You tell your five other ones go. I mean, everyone goes for dick. Well, like, we all know what a horse cock is, but like, what's a gorilla cock?

It's small. It's small, but it's small. So, but it's a potent. Does it feel it? Does he feel, does he feel dick pain?

Yeah. I think, I think the first five mees would see the, the second or the, The gorilla cock is only 1.1 inches long. All right, I'll go for it. I'll rip it right off of them while you're distracting. So if you rip that off,

you got to do what you got to do. Do you feel pain? That would hurt. That's like his funny bone. Now we only have fists. Like, how do we, you got to get the hardest part of your,

you got, that thing's hard. What would the first five of me do? So the first five of you kind of were the distractions. and basically demolish. And now the other five of you are on his back and just throwing and clawing and ripping eyeballs out. I mean, there's one of me going for his cock

that we already established that. But what about the other first four of me and then the last five of me? Like I think each one goes for extremity. Okay. Each one goes for an arm. Everyone go for one. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Everyone go for one. Can we take a shoelace off? Because if I take shoe lace, off and I fucking strangle this guy. I still think we don't have a shot. No, we do. We do. It just takes 10 of us each.

Dude, I think that AI is dumb. That AI is real dumb. Let's get on the next one, dude. I'm getting anxiety. Hey, dude, what's the craziest pregame routine you ever saw a former teammate has? Anybody have any crazy superstitions either?

You know, you really don't see like your teammates routines because you're kind of really focusing what's going on, you know, with what you got to do and what your routine is and you're getting ready for the game. I mean, you see some guys just, you know, just blasting absurdly loud music. Now they, but that really, that's only on practice, really. Yeah, that would be practice. They wouldn't allow it. You're right. Game day, they wouldn't allow it. So like, there really wasn't any crazy routines that I've ever seen. by another former player.

Nothing that stands out. No. And if there was, I mean, it was kind of like, it wasn't in the public eye in the locker room. It was kind of like at home,

whatever they were doing beforehand. Everyone's in the zone, man. You got, you know, it's kind of calm before the storm. Yeah. No, nothing crazy at all.

Everyone would just say normal, normal routines. Everyone differs a little bit, but it wasn't anything like spectacularly crazy. Like, whoa, look at it. Look what he's doing. It was just all everyone getting ready, getting in the zone.

Hey, fellas, I was just calling in with a crazy hypothetical. Say you taking a cross-country road trip. First, are you taking the northern route or the southern route? Second, what vehicle

would you choose? And then third, you could bring anybody with you as a companion or multiple people even. Who are you bringing with you? Celebrities, former teammates. You name it. Let me go, guys.

Man, we're, We road tripping, though. That's all I know. I ain't going to take the guys that we're in the movie road trip. No. No, no. That was a... What is that?

That was a... Tongue-green. My bum is on your face. My bum is on your face. One thing. But a great movie. I don't remember it that. That well.

I remember the bum song, though. Mm-hmm. Are you going north or south? I'm going, uh... I'm going west. It's longer. South, you know, you get the Carolina is Virginia's like and then you're in Florida already. I want to go cross-country.

It's longer, more sustainable. But you got to go either this way or this way. So it's either the southern route or the northern route. All right. I'm going to southern route then. So you're going to go through tornado alley. Yeah. Hurricanes.

And the vehicle of choice would be like an RV. Yeah, I'm going. Like a camper. I'm going to. original H1. I'm going northern. I'm going through the fucking mountains, the cold.

I know this thing's going to be able to do it. We don't got new hurricanes. We don't have tornadoes. Avalanchees. Hey, we got avalanche packs, though. I'm bringing blizzards. Yeah, I'm bringing Dom. Deer.

Remember Dom? The Navy Seal? Yeah, Beast. I'm bringing him. Is this like an apocalyptic thing, or is this just like for fun and like shits and giggles? like uh stampedes stampedes like

what is this yellow stone stampedes of like rams and deer and mooses all gathering together in buffalo 1,300 yeah there's a goddamn interstate taking the interstate the whole way

no I'm talking like when you get in the middle of nowhere the interstate doesn't have any borders just just there's no fences left and right Just fucking a wild stampede of horses Or just coming around out of nowhere

And hit me I got at H1 They better they better bring their fucking Their power And I would bring Stephen Ridley with me Guys an outdoors guy Outdoors Yeah he's from Louisiana

He goes hunting all the time He knows the south Yeah he does He plays golf as well Yeah So we could stop and hit a couple golf balls For fun if we need some entertainment Yeah I'm bringing light too

Probably light that's a good choice. Smart knows he knows the he knows Ohio he's from Ohio he knows all the fucking those those areas

probably goes like bow hunting and Dakotas and shit you know he's definitely caught some bears somewhere in those areas Wyoming I don't know but I know

you're gonna get stampeded next trip next question all right hey fellas I was just wondering back in your playing days, how often would you guys go out to eat with other members of the team? And who usually went with you?

And what restaurants did you like to do? That's Jack. That's Jack. Oh, my gosh, man. I knew that. I'm like, oh, man. This sounds like somebody we know. Oh, Jack, we miss you, buddy.

We miss you, bobs. But grabbing with the boys, we would go out to eat like once a week on like a Friday night. We were young a lot. Yeah. Then we got old. Every week. Yeah. You stop.

So when we were young, once a week. Once a week. Remember we'd always go find a little spot. Friday nights? Kutavides. Fletch. That's what it was all about. Go get a steak.

You just look forward to it. Yep. Or a Greek fucking restaurant with Kutavides. We'd find one Greek restaurant in every goddamn city. We'd, we would eat there. Breaking glass and dancing on the tables. Yeah. Fucking twisting light bulbs and shit.

Hey, what's going on guys? Grunk, Julian. My name's Kyle. I'm from Worcester, Massachusetts. Huge fans. You guys basically changed my family's lives growing up watching you guys. That's a lot to all of us. Anyways, my question is, how do you guys think both of you would have fared playing football

back in the 70s, 80s, 90s when the game was a little bit more physically taxing and there wasn't as many rules that benefited offensive players? I personally think someone like Gronk would have dominated in any single era because look at him and I'm not saying you wouldn't Julian but I just want to know you know get you guys opinions on that everybody's always comparing errors and stuff like that so thank you guys love the show well we got that you know that take going on right now how many humans would it take down a gorilla and we already talked about that how many Gronks and Julian's would it take down a take down a grill. While if I was playing in the 70s, 80s, and 90s era, it would be how many players does it take the tackle, the gruncula? And it would take the whole entire team, buddy, especially in the 70s.

The 80s probably just, you know, 11 guys on defense. They wouldn't go low on you because in the 90s, they tried to blow you up. The 90s, they got bigger. The guys were small in the 70s. It would have dominated just. to a whole nother level. 90s, though,

it had taken like five, six guys taking me down then. Well, we played in that football in the 90s as kids. So, like, we were accustomed to that style of football. It started softening halfway through our career, really, to a noticeable softening now,

like rule changes and all that stuff. But, yeah, I don't know. I mean, those guys are tough. It's a different game. Like, you watch, Terry Bradshaw getting clothesline, picking up his fucking teeth and stuff, Howie Long, you know, ripping a guy's helmet off. Like, it was, those guys were barbaric.

Like, so I like to think that I, I tried to play the game like those guys. So I don't know, I don't want to take anything from them in their, in their generations, because, you know, that, that's, I have respect. Mm-hmm. It's a good way to put it. my answer was just silly yeah no but you are a beast

you probably I take it back I would have been on the bench yeah yep next question which player on the Patriots do you think will benefit most

from Mike Rable this year oh ooh that's a good question I would say somebody on the defensive side of the ball it doesn't matter which it only matters about one how's drake make gonna play okay because that's the only one that really i mean everyone matters the whole team matters the whole link of the chain matters

but there's not like it with the fran i know but the master link that's how they're that's how we're all going to judge him how is drake may going to do because as good as he's going to do is is going to make the team do well you know what i mean so that's the only thing that really does matter does he influence and make Drake May better, which I think he will because he's got Josh McDaniels. I like that system. He's going to be a great overall head coach that can coach the coaches and all the players,

you know, because he has a good offense coordinator that I think that they know each other and then have a working relationship where he can watch the whole team and the offensive coordinator. This guy wants to know which guy is going to benefit the most, though. Not the organization as a whole, which guy is going to benefit the most. Which guy?

Who do you think? I'm going to go with a defensive player that he took from the Tennessee Titans and brought him to the New England Patriots. Didn't he bring? Edge? What's his name? Harold Landry? He brought Harold Landry from the Tennessee Titans to the New England Patriots. And that's who's going to benefit the most.

And he already benefited from it because he probably wouldn't be a New England Patriot if it wasn't for Rabel coming here to be the, head coach of the of the Patriots. So Harold Landry's the guy that's benefiting the most bank account wise, having a job wise, and scheme wise on the defense side of the ball. You know, that simple math. We'll be right back after this quick break. Here we go. Hey, I'm Cal Penn. And on my new podcast, here we go again. We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor, from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science,

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Jules, seventh round. Can you explain what your first off-season was like from, you know, that April when you get on the team all the way up to like the first game of the season? Like, you see all these OTAs and this and this and rookies and this. Can you just give some more details and some explanation on what that whole process is like? Thank you.

All right. Well, I'll go first here, Jules. This is a great question because I was kind of in a different situation here. The lockout occurred after my rookie year. So I never had an offseason. And he asked specifically, I'm pretty sure your first off season was like. So that's why I'm going into my first off season because I never had a typical NFL off season because I was off for six months straight because of a lockout. And I loved every moment of it, you know.

I can tell you that. And in April, I was at the University of Arizona. at pool parties. I also, you can look at it on YouTube. I'm dancing with the basketball players on a ledge at the pool, just absolutely going ham, pounding cores lights left and right, probably about 25 of these bad boys.

I was 21 years old. I was still supposed to be in college. So it was the best time of my life in the lockout couldn't have happened at a better moment in my life as well because I didn't have to go and train because I got the train in the morning wherever I was. And then I would just party all day. And I was 21 years old, typical college.

student going ham i was also visiting my friends one of my friends tico he went to the university he went to miami ohio great college town great place to party especially when you're that age as well um wait wait did you have your signing bonus though yeah i had my signing bonus oh so you had money i had money already so i had about a million in the bank rolling around going to college is still getting tables for four hundred dollars and i felt like i was a multi multi multi billionaire just rolling in with a million dollars and getting tables for 400 bucks and buying all these college students bottles and uh how did i train i would wake up after a couple nights and just go run a couple hundreds you know uh catch some footballs for my friends that drank with me the whole night before

uh and then literally showed up and dominated every single day where coach balacheck gave me a parking spot in the front row because I had the best training camp of all time and that's how it happened because of the lockout and I had videos of me partying everywhere your rookie year this was after my yeah after my rookie year yeah it was like a low key like people knew about my skills like at that time like those those type of skills vastly different than mine what was your uh vastly different what was your uh first off season like first off season is still stressed. You know, are we talking rookie off season or we're going into our rookie year? No, going into your second year. Or is it going into our second year? First off season.

So my first off season was, is after your first year of playing. Well, I'll go my rookie year. All right. Rookie year off season, you get drafted. You go to rookie mini camp. So it's just the rookies. they put you through these camp installs so they give you kind of the day-to-day life of what it's going to be like a little taste of it in your rookie camp that's like a three-day camp for me it was like very stressful and very hard uh you know i'm a seventh round draft pick uh i'm in a part of the country i've never been or never even heard of i didn't know if i didn't know where new England really was. I didn't pay attention in my sociology. Social studies class. Geography. Geography, whatever. So I'm a geography guy. My map skills are like my geography skills.

I didn't know where New England. I kind of knew where it was. But it's up here. You have so many of these things going through your head, your head as a kid. Am I going to be around? How's this going? I was learning a new position. You got to learn your formations. You got to learn. What was your favorite position you learned? I like the Z position. Oh, sorry, get back to what you were really talking about. Oh, the F? Oh, the F position.

Yeah, wow. So, you know, it's very stressful time for these kids that come into a new area. They're learning at a very rapid rate, you know, because you want to learn as much as you can and get all the reps you can before the vets come, because once the vets come, you don't get any reps. and then it becomes super mental. So then the one or two reps that you do have, you have to not fuck up the formation, not fuck up the snap count,

know where to go, know the personnel group, know your assignment, know what the other defense is doing, know your adjustments, and do it all properly so you get another opportunity, you know? So this is a tough time for a lot of guys.

And it should be a tough time because they're digesting a lot and they're learning a lot, which is completely different than your second season where you have that all in, you know, your brain already a little bit. So it becomes a little easier. But your rookie years, it's a tough year if you're trying to go in and learn and make the team. You know what I mean?

So next, that was a great call. That was a great call. That was. It was a great question. We had different scenarios. Well, you did the second year. I did the rookie year. It's all the same, but different.

I did the same thing. even going into my first year. Segway us out. Well, that was the chillest dude of the week. Thanks to our favorite beer, Coors Light. Get Coorslight delivered straight to your door. Visit coreslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. Cold is the Rockies.

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