Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Dudes on Will Campbell & Matt Light

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

Will Campbell and Matt Light are in studio! Our blindsides are safe in this Left Tackle episode from The DUNKIN' Nuthouse in Boston. We're talking all things O-Line, Matt shares some classic tales from his days with the Patriots, and we get Will's take on life in the league thus far. We also get on Will's Dude, Tyrann Mathieu, and talk what makes LSU football so special. We put Will and Matt through our patented Dude Questionnaire to find out what kind of dude each of them are in this week's Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Can you confirm, would you really die for Drake May? I would. That's my guy. That's my guy. I mean, I don't know what made me say it in the moment, but it came out great. And you still stand by it. I stand by it. Yeah. Matt, would you die for Tom Brady? It depends on like what he's leaving. my kids. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes presented by Duncan, and we are coming to you from the Duncan House in Boston.

I'm Julian Edelman. And I'm Rob Grankowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And we've got our blindside cover today, baby. We have left tackles Matt Light and Will Campbell in studio. What are we talking about, Rob? Will earning the LSU number seven. gaining lots of respect.

Jay and Daniels and Drake make comparisons? And some great stories from back in the hey days. Plus, we find out what kind of dudes Matt and Will are and the chillest dude of the week presented by Cores Light. Dudes on Dudes is a production of I Heart Radio. Got a hell of an episode, but before we do that, it's time for the donut dude presented by Duncan. Oh, my favorite donut dudes presented.

presented by Duncan. Let's go. This is the segment where we determine which type of donut best represents our dudes. What type of donut is Matt Light? Well, we need something that's more stalkier, a strong donut because Matt Light is country strong. But also, he likes to bust chops. And what donut out there, he's tricky. He's tricky. Is tricking people where it's strong, tastes well, and you don't even really realize it. I know what it is. I know what it is. Julian, what do you think? I think he's a pumpkin donut. Oh, my gosh. Because he's tricking. you all at all times thinking it's Thanksgiving. Like it's not Thanksgiving.

This is, we're not supposed to be eating a pumpkin donut in February. And he's always, he's always, uh, pumpkining people. Yeah, he's pumpkining pinking, pumpkining people. Pumpkin, punging. He's punking people. So it's pumpkining people. He's pumpkining people. That is a great donut for Matt Lye.

And it's under the radar. It's kind of like a strong donut. Pumpkins are strong. Matt Light is really, really country strong. And I feel like he would, be out, you know, on the fields just growing pumpkins or harvesting them. So yeah, Matt Light, stamp it. Pumpkin donut. Pumpkin donut. What's Will. All right. Oh, Will Campbell. We need like a soft donut, soft looking donut that just hits hard,

you know, because Will, sweet guy, sweet, sweet guy, but not a guy you want to tick off or mess with, you know, country type accent type of donut, you know, has that feel. of, you know, being strong. Oh, man. A surprise. It's like a surprise, right? Oh, maybe like a glazed blueberry, possibly. I like that.

I like that. Yeah. Glazed blueberry. I can see, you know. Oh, a French crueller a little bit. I mean, French people are strong. I know he's not French, but he's a strong, strong, you know, a guy. He looks like he can curl defenders.

That's where I'm getting to. Yeah. No, I guess not. What do you think? Hang it, Jules, this one's tough. Is he a Boston cream? You don't know there's cream in the middle until you bite it? Yeah.

Yeah, possibly. Because that's kind of like I said, you know, he's super nice guy. Don't take him off. But then once you take a bite, you're like, oh shit, there's fucking cream in here. Oh, yeah, and it's coming hard. And that cream is strong tasting. Strong taste. I think he's a Boston cream.

He's a Boston cream. All right. You're so smart, Julian. You just know your donuts. Nah, I'm a donut guy. Call me the Dona King. Okay, let's toss it to our awesome interview with Will Campbell and Matt Light. All right, here we go.

Today, we are joined. Who are we joined by, Robbie? By two special guests today. It's my first show, having two special guests. Two left tackles. It is an honor. I've never seen Julian so fired it up before. I like big men.

Well, yes. I like big men. Also, you play quarterback in college as well. And these are the guys that protected you so you wouldn't get hurt, Julian. in. And our first guests here today is a three-time Super Bowl champ, a Patriots Hall of Famer, the man that protected Brady's blindside for the first decade of, you know, the dynasty era. Dynasty. He played one extra season because he wanted to play with me.

The Gras. I appreciate that, Matthew Light. Thank you for making me feel good. Oh, oh, I gave it away. We are joined by Matthew Light, ladies. ladies and gentlemen. And then we also have the other tackle, the new tackle, the future tackle. Rookie, fourth overall pick, LSU legend, Will Campbell. Welcome to the show, guys. Welcome to the Nut House here in Boston. How are you guys doing? This is the first time you guys have met.

Matt first with you. What's life looking these days besides trying to recruit Will Campbell to your your your gun show thing the gun show yeah what is that sounds really good actually like the guns we maybe want to change the name and just talk about that you know right away matthian we know you're going to talk about it when is it the shootout in here for one reason that's why we got up here Tuesday after the first game in September right September 9th is it this year yeah yeah yeah we're 21st year by the way let's go 20 like 21 years so that spans like the time before you guys going, I mean, which doesn't even seem that long ago. No.

How old are you? 21. He started a shootout when you were in the wound. Yeah. Like, literally, the shootout is him. Yeah. Like, his legacy in years is our legacy in running this event, which is pretty wild. And I do have to say that I remember getting a phone call from a mutual friend of ours who grew up in the same area.

And I remember he said, hey, man, you got Monroe's. finest coming up there to New England and I was like holy smokes I had no idea that Will was from that part of Louisiana which is which is honestly a very special place man it is pretty cool well what are you up to these days just practicing really uh just trying to get ready for the season get ready for week one finishing up training camp before we get a few days off and that's really about it now I got a quick question off topic I just hit me when you started talking because it's that southern draw that you have that Louisiana I remember like the first snippet I saw of you said,

you would die for Drake May. Can you confirm, would you really die for Drake May? I would. That's my guy. That's my guy. I mean, I don't know what made me say it in the moment, but it came out great.

It's kind of just the emotion. You still stand by it. I stand by it, yeah. Matt, would you die for Tom Brady? It depends on like what he's leaving my kids. You know what I'm saying? And just in full, you know,

disclosure, I think the only nice things that my kids have ever received, like truly like heirloom quality things were from Tom. Examples. Example of, okay, so, and this is how bad I am because I just, I don't go down this road, but is it called Hermes, Hermes, Hermes, Hermes. Hermes. Hermes. Hermes.

Hermys, thank you. Hermes. Herpes. Herpes. Herpes. So Tom gave my kids herpes. Herpes. Oh.

No, he didn't. He didn't. I mean, I can say that. You guys can't say that. I didn't say that. What did you give your kids from Hermes? Hermes. That's how you say. It's a designer clothing brand. Listen, the day that I ever thought that you would teach me how to pronounce something and say, I mean, this is. Today is the day, Matthew Lai. Yeah. But I did. I got a, uh, it's a holiday now. One of the kids got a scarf. Another one. I think they even make books. I, here's what I do know. When you look it up, they're quite expensive.

They're quite expensive. And so we don't even let our kids look at them, let alone touch them. They'll get them one day, right? Because it was a gift. But, you know, but so I would say that I felt like I was going to die several times trying to protect Tommy. And it was just the fact that I was completely out of shape and undersized. So, and by the way, like, you think about when I came in, Grant Williams was the left tackle. And we had, they had drafted Clem, Adrian Clem.

and I remember looking at these guys going, I'm in the wrong spot. And then the guys that took over when I left, come on, man, Sebastian Valmer, the giant German, and then Nate Solder. He's even giant-nerder. Can you say that?

Giant-ner-res. You're making up words now, Joe. Yeah. That's my job. And then there was me, right? Six-four, you know, I couldn't, I could, I can hardly pick my own ears. So they talk about arm-like.

And now they're making all this craziness. but I mean, look, this is like, like not a small human here. No, he's a large man. Yeah. And I love him. Well, speaking of, well, how do you like New England so far? It's good. I've been getting used to it.

I'm adjusting. I was telling Julian before I, you know, got drafted up here, outside of going to an away game, the furthest north or east I'd ever been was Atlanta. So, like, it's just, it's definitely, I guess you could say what. Some people would call the culture shock for sure. But, you know, the football is great. The people are great. So, yeah, it's been good so far.

What about the food? How are you liking the food here? Some of it's pretty good. You have any clam chowder yet? No, I hadn't. I hadn't had it. I don't know if that's really my speed. My favorite spot so far is definitely Aria.

Aria. Oh, in the north end. North end. Wait, you like all the trees? See, people took that like. But there's a lot of trees. People took that and made it sound like, I was an idiot. I had never, like I thought, always thought that the stadium was in downtown

Boston. Yeah, yeah. I never knew that it was until I came up here on my 30 visit, that it was 45 minutes from the city. So I should have went into more detail when I talked about that. Well, well, I understand, because people take a lot of things I say and make me sound like an idiot as well. So, yeah, so I understand. What were you thinking with that? I saw you just do something in your head. Well, I was just thinking like typically, like when I just say things, I do sound like an idiot. Like I don't, people don't have to like interpret anything. Like it just kind of happens that way.

I would say that, like when you, when you start cruising around here better, one of the things you're going to say is the people are great, just, but not all of them. Okay? Because that's what I remember thinking when I first got up here. I was like, what is wrong with these people? Everybody's in a rush. It's absolute chaos. They drive like it's combative.

it is. It's the old ladies with the road rage. And I'm just like, why are you flipping me off? With style, though, they're typically pretty, pretty jazzy driving like a nice vehicle. I'll tell you one thing, though, about the people of New England.

They are cold. They are kind of, they have a mean to them. But I tell you, if you're in need of help, real help, compared to other, like, I live in other parts of the country, where people are nice and they put on a front of being nice,

but if they saw you getting robbed right in front of them, they would walk by. People in New England, they'd help you. They're assholes, because that's just what they, it's so fucking cold here,

you've got to be something. It's almost like the head coach, right? Like I tell people all the time, I'm like, Braves, like he's the biggest jerk in the room, but he's your jerk. Yeah. And you're going to love him.

I remember when he first came to the team, it was like, oh man, this dude's got an egg. And I knew just from some of the stories that Ohio stayed back in the day. But then, you know, you get to know Braves and you're like, that's my guy. And New Englanders are kind of the same way, man. It takes a bit of a buy-in. Like, you need to walk around on this ground for a minute or two before they're going to recognize the fact that you're actually here.

But once they do, sky's the limit, man. And honestly, it's why we stayed. I mean, it's, you know, my kids, you know, grew up here and we didn't want to disrupt that. But on the flip side, you know, we met some amazing. Amazing people. Amazing people. Now, Will, you know, Matt Light's, like, best friends with your coach. You have any questions about Braves that you have prepared to ask that you may need from Matt?

I don't know. Give me a second to think. I'm sure I'll think. Yeah, I'm going to think. Have you been to Red Sox game yet? I have. He actually took us, took all the rookies to a game. It was pretty cool.

I'm really not, like, a huge baseball guy. Like, I definitely cannot watch an MLB game on TV, but like going to a stadium. Eating a dog? Not into eating hot dogs. No hot dogs? No, but some nachos or something like that. Watch a game. I can go with that.

Would you do batting practice if they asked you to? Yeah, I would do that for sure. Not being a huge baseball guy, but you came from a school where baseball is huge. They're winning national championships. They're always in contention. And you guys had the first pick of the draft of the MLB draft and pitch. Paul Skeens. Did you meet him at all while you're down there? Skeens.

Yeah, so he was actually there while that was my freshman year. Him, Dylan Cruz was the second pick of the draft. And then this past year... They went one two that year? Yeah. Shit, I didn't know that. Yeah. And then they had one do go like 25.

And then they just had a kid go number three. So they produce a lot of talent. Do you meet Livy Dunn? Yeah, I know her. Yeah. I know her too. She's a sports illustri. swim-sumato with my girl.

So, yeah, I met her a few times at the parties. But I never met Paul Skeenj yet, and I've only heard great things about him. But how big is he? Oh, he's huge. He's huge. Great dude. All about America, too. Really?

All about America. Sweet. So, like, you would love him as well. I love that. We would all of them. Like, I got to have your thoughts on the Brady statue. Any critiques? What are your thoughts on it?

What would you change? Hey, look, if you could change something to, about it. I know you've been thinking about this, and I know you want to air this out. And I want to get right to that brace. I just saw it for the first time last week. In person? Yeah. I was up elevated position looking down on it. We want to hear your thoughts. I didn't get right up on it, but before we do that, can we go back? Just a quick little rewind. Did you get, like, was there a problem? Did you choke on a hot dog when you're, why don't you like hot dogs? I just don't. You've never liked a hot dog? Yeah. I think my mom, like whenever I

was like six or seven told me what they were made of and I just like I don't really want to eat okay so you would eat like because I brought I brought no it's your snacks yeah I eat like a good elk dog yeah yeah I'm just not eating Oscar Meyer from right stop it shot I feel better now because I don't like the judge you're a great young man but I was starting to get a little judgy I was like I'm not sure about this guy you're gonna eat the hot dogs Matt light produces though you guarantee you that yeah they're good but they are they're all natural they are they are natural casings the whole nine made with love but okay so on the statue so you guys have obviously been up close and were you there for like the whole unveiling was not okay i wasn't either we're out

town so same um i just i want to know this much right so the most iconic thing like if i had to pick i do like the the arm up thing is kind of like it is him i wouldn't say it's like the first thing i would have thought of what was the first thing you would have thought of um The double hand, although we used to call that the lighthouse, because the guys used to always make fun. It was my only move I had. It was like, throw both hands up. But Tommy did that quite a bit, right?

Both hands up, you know, yes, and then celebration. So the one arm, I mean, maybe it was just easier for the bronze guy to do the one arm versus the two arm. I don't know. The problem I had right out the gate is it looks lonely. Like, are we doing anything else around there? It's like the base. He's kind of in that big concrete. course all by himself.

Yeah. Right? I think he needs a little squirrel next to him. That's what I think. I was thinking like Logan and I and Copen since we're local, we could go meet with the bronze guy.

We could accompany him, kind of get around him, make him feel a little bit more at home. You guys should definitely get cast as well. You know? I don't think that. Or we could just go stand there and act like,

do we get a check? That's probably not. Probably not. Probably not. I'll still be there. You've seen it though, up close in person. No,

I haven't yet. haven't either. I've only seen pictures. I'm going to see it soon, though. I'm excited. Yeah. I thought they got the face done pretty well. Hey, here's one thing I will tell you. The body, the body as well. They got the body done. They got the wide rib cage because he did wear that big rib cage thing. Yep. Yep. Skin tone looks great. You can obviously tell no night shades went into that man. None. And here's what I would say, though. I am, and this is my own theory on this. I'm not saying I have any proof of this, but come on now. I was up there at Patriot Place at say 9.30 on like a Tuesday. And while I was there, I'm not kidding you, I saw at least four different groups of women,

not a woman, but like three to four that were all googly-eyed over the statue and taking pictures and having their friends, individual group shot, grabbing people. Here's my theory. That's some of a bitch is paying these people to do this. There's no doubt in my mind. that's not organic. You don't find groups of women like that. And by the way, like they were kind of all done up in the whole nine.

I think he's got them on rotation. Just make sure you keep having girls go by there and make it look like everybody's taking pictures. Wait a minute. You think Tom's paying people to go take pictures in front of his brand new beautiful? Is it Tom or is it RKK paying these groups of ladies? I don't know that RKK's ever paid, you know, women to. Do you think there will be a bill statue maybe?

I understand. That's why I'm thinking. I'm thinking it's Tommy. That's what I'm thinking it's Tommy. That's what I'm saying. That's a good question. Will there be a bill statue eventually one day? And will it be on a little tiny pedestal all by itself in the concourse? I don't know. I don't know. And I'm not judging where they put it. I think they've probably got a long way to go. But, you know, he looked lonely is what I'm saying. And I think he's paying women to go down there and hang out with a statue. That's kind of where I was going with all this. Will, have you ever met Tom? I have not. I saw him at the preseason game after the. Have you met a? a statue? I've seen it. I haven't gone up and taken a picture with it. How's camping going? It's been good. First camp, first NFL camp. It's a lot different. It's a lot longer than college.

Like college, you know, it's really only like two weeks of practice and then, you know, you're in game week. This was a little bit more long. But it's been great. It's a lot different in terms of like players and playbook. It's just a lot more, you know, information, which is pretty cool. I enjoy that. type of stuff. But yeah, it's been great so far. What's been the biggest adjustment from college to pro ball? Is it the size of the players that you're going against or is it the speed of the game? I think it's just like the depth of the guys. You know, like whenever you're in college and, you know, the ones on the edge, you know, they go take a blow. The guy coming in, it really didn't matter what school. He probably just wasn't even close to, you know, the guy that was in there,

first and you know the guy that comes off the bench might do something that you have more problems with than the first guy so i'd say that's the biggest thing that's really not a drop-off no matter who is in or out of the game yeah that's the truth matt you know you played how many seasons again 11 do you have any advice for will going into week one man well i can tell you my week one won't be like your week one because i got i got injured in camp and i remember bill was trying to put me a right tackle. And then like literally the week leading up to our season opener against Cincinnati on the road, he's like, hey, man, you feel good enough to practice? And I'm like, I mean, I think I can probably go now. And he's like, we're going to put you back at left. And I'm like, oh my gosh.

And he's like, and just be ready to go. And then I was late to my first meeting. So that, that'd be my number one bit of advice. Don't be late. Because we're actually playing in Cincinnati and my family. Like they literally, there was not a person in my hometown. I don't think. Like every church bus was rented, everything. They all come down and it's like, I thought he was going to play. And Bill literally walked up to me the day of not the night before when I missed the meeting. The day of the game, it was like, I mean, look, you know, I can, you know, I'm not, I'm not starting a guy that can't even make it to a effing meeting.

And I'm like, okay, just, just keep yourself ready. Jesus, walked away. And that was it. So did you start? I did not start. What did you go in? What did you put you in the game? Yeah.

After I've been sitting cold as a duck on the sideline. And then at halftime, he's like, all right, you're going. And I'm like, oh, I hate my life. So you're going to be way better off. But what made his day? You're going to, you're in a way better situation, well, because you don't want to be sitting there and then be ice cold and going in right after halftime.

But what made Bill make that decision like, all right, like, like, like you go in now, offensive tackle and pull whoever was the guy that was there. right then. Was he getting beat? Did he give up three sacks? What was his reasoning? Like, all right, let's get, let's get light in there now. I think he just wanted to see, you know, how I was going to handle the situation, be honest with you. I mean, he could have, you know how Bill is? Like, once you make a mistake, he plays games with you to make sure you don't make that mistake again. That's a fact. And he was sending a clear message. Now, I will say that I was only late to two meetings in my life. Both of them were the night before games. And fast forward a few weeks,

about midway through the season, my rookie year, I missed another team meeting the night before the game, but this time I was with the only other two left tackles, or the only other tackles on the team. So he couldn't, he was just like kind of forced to let us play. We'll be right back after this quick break. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist. and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

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Yes. An hour fun show, variety show. Yeah, yeah. The first part, lots of booze that we heard from the locker room. So the opening act didn't go so well? The first couple opening act. First couple. Luckily, you know, me, a few of the other O-Linemen, Kyle Williams, we were able to, you know, get a couple laughs there at the end, tried to, you know,

say today, but Braves told us that it was the worst rookie she'd ever seen in 20 years. That's not good. What was the punishment? I think if honestly, if we wouldn't have, you know, had to, if we would have been terrible at the end. Completely bummed. They would have made us redo it.

But he was just, he was thinking about doing it, but I just, I think you need to contact Matt Light. Because Matt used to do a series of videos. like he took this shit to heart. Like he would do a hairy-carry impersonation. It would take him probably 40 hours to make the entertainment for the team. So all those meetings he was probably missing night before game. He was probably getting something ready to entertain the team.

I will never forget Mike Compton, who was center slash guard, right, played in the league forever, was a veteran veteran by the time I got here in 2001 for my rookie year. I remember Mike was like, all right, Rook, get up there and sing your fight song. And this was just like an impromptu, like at lunch or something, right? Or maybe at dinner or whatever. And I remember thinking, yes, yes. I've been waiting for somebody to call me out because A, I like to sing. I'm not saying I'm good, but I do like to sing.

And B, everybody else was singing their fight song and they kind of sucked. So he's like, yeah, Rook, get up there and dance. And, of course, I'm like, no, no, no, you don't want to hear me. And then I was like, all right. And I did like a whole, it was good, man. Like the Catalina fucking wine mixer. That's right. Yeah, it was, it was fun to go through, like, like go.

I went back in time and I was reliving some of the rookie skits and some of the things. And I'll never forget my rookie year. We did Patriots Jeopardy and then Patriots who wants to be a millionaire or something like that. And we had some great questions. And we, and man, we got on the. coaches. We got on the players. I remember we had some of our rookies were Thai and lawyer Malloy and those conversations between those two are legendary. Mamp, that shit, man. You know, just, you know, phone a friend and it's Ty calling lawyer. I mean, we had so much fun back in the

day with the rookie skits. And I think for some reason, the outside world got a bad taste of like, oh, it's hazing or whatever. It was never that in my eyes. And honestly, on all the teams I played on, we actually had fun it brought us closer together and it kind of forced us to get to know the guys on the team right and i think that's always been the intent i think there's you know i've heard stories of guys that kind of took it the wrong way or or got upset about it or whatever but i would think it's a great tool man yeah i mean it's it's it's something to be embarrassed that like i remember being so nervous for doing my i just did the first fight song got booed off, did a couple things where I was Welker and Tom. But that sense of

embarrassment in front of the guys, it's different. Like, you need to feel that. You need to feel that because after you felt it, you guys, it kind of brings you together. It makes you more comfortable in the long run with everyone as well in the locker room. See, we did the Jeopardy and they you did it. They hated it. Yes. It still lives. So, so what, what are, do you remember some of your all-time favorite? Yeah. We had, we had, Ornberger. Thank you. Orneberger was, was elite.

We just told him to go improv and he remember he brought the whiteboard out and told the Joe Pah story and illustrated it and had the whole team storytelling ability. Unbelievable. And then we also made a video. You remember when we made the video of your Sobe commercial when you guys were in all white ballerina things? Orrumburger was doing that with his big eyes gut. It was pretty.

Those were some fun ones That was classic Who's been the best on yours so far Will The best rookie Can anyone sing Dance I'd say Jeremiah Webb

Jeremiah Webb Why what do you do He's just funny He's just kind of A position receiver Braves loves him You know he always goes to him For the good jokes

I would definitely say He's the best one so far A jokster Yeah he's definitely got a lot It gets everyone laughing For sure Who won the He just goes up there and people start laughing, so it's just good.

That was Ornberger. Ornberger was so great. So, you know, another thing I have to know is, like, how often do y'all laugh like crazy at stuff Vravel does? Because that son of a gun is one of the funnier guys out there. I mean, he has an edge to him. He's always had an edge. He's the boss, though.

He's the boss. But there have to be times where he says something, I don't know, something. Yeah, he'll say some stuff. and everybody will laugh, and then he'll say some stuff where it'll be crickets, and he'll be like, guys, that was a joke. And then nobody will laugh, but it kind of just varies back and forth. But he does say some interesting stuff.

So I've said this before, but literally this is one of my favorite Vrabel moments of all time. Vrable's in my hometown for a charity event for the foundation, early, early on, like 2003, 2004. And Vrable listens to my mayor say some proclamation, about making it Matt Light Day in my little, you know, podunk hometown, right? And when he does that, he messes up the word matriculate, like, horrible. Horrible.

Like, he's clearly reading a proclamation that he didn't write. And when he says it, he's like, he stumbles over it like four or five times. And then finally gets through it. Well, an hour, two hours later, we're doing the auction. And it's a stagnant. So it's all guys in this VFW Hall, small town USA. and the guy who is our auctioneer is trying to sell this item and Vrable gets up and I'm like, oh shoot, this is going to be something.

Grabs the mic from this dude and he's like, hey, listen, if y'all don't start spending some real money, that's what we're here for. If you all don't start spending some real money, I'm going to get to Mer up here and I'm going to pay him $10,000 if he can spell matriculate. And I remember falling out of my chair and I'm just thinking this is awkward, this is uncomfortable. That's my guy though. It was great.

Well, do you think you'll eat shit for doing this interview and telling the world that Vrabel's half of his jokes suck? But you got light to back you up. You can be like, you know, I was not going to help you. That's not going to help? Why not? Aren't you like good friends with Vrable? Well, I mean, I, I mean, you have said he's, you know, he's an asshole like 20 times

since he's been the head coach. But a, a beautiful asshole. Right, right. He's our. Yeah. Our jerk. Yeah. But what do you think?

You think he's going to come out of you for this? Yeah, he definitely will. Yeah. But it's just part of it. Yeah, I like that, man. Yeah, it's just part of it. I'll be prepared for it tomorrow. Well, you already whooped his ass in the pre-draft process, didn't you?

Didn't you? Can you explain what? Put the pads on and, you know. Did he put pads on? Come to your pro day. He put pads on one on one for a shoe. He actually had. He had, so we had a private night, the little workout.

the week before the draft and uh you know they all come in and it was me and one of my other teammates miles fraser and we get there hour early and set up a bunch of you know pads for him and all the old line coaches to use and here he comes i'm looking through the indoor down the hallway and he's walking in and he's got his he brought his own pad and i was like all right so i guess we don't need any of that and he took every single rep I think in that whole entire hour, hour and a half workout, we had his shirt ripped. He had to go get new clothes for equipment. But yeah, I might have got the best of them on one of them.

Now, when you hear that story, what do you think, Matt? Yeah. Oh, immediately, I go back to the fact that we would get done with like a grueling. And again, I'm not trying to, you know, degrade what you guys do today. But back in the day, like, when we practice, it was legit. Like, it was full pads every day, uphill, no shoes, in the store. snow like crazy. Rabel would come back in and almost always go get on the treadmill and run like another

30 miles because he's like a freak of nature when it comes to energy and everything else. And here, and I'll have a theory on this one too. And I know you've seen him, you know, like lightly clothed, right? Let's just say like cruise not because it's weird. All right. It's locker room. It's just a locker room. Yeah.

Men. So and you've seen the amount of hair on that man, right? He's like a chinchilla. A Chubaca? Yes, he's like fully to the point of, by the way, newsflash, one of the greatest outfits I've ever seen for Halloween, Vrable did. And I'm going to tell you, hats off to him, he shaved his arms down like this. He then shaved around his neck and came down and then shaved a circle, a circle on his belly button was the last one.

He was wearing his own cardigan. and it was unbelievable. Now, I know you just pictured that, right? I did. And you know how white you are when you have that much hair? It doesn't even matter if you've been outside of your life. It was the greatest contrast, but personal contrast that you could ever have.

So I think all that hair, somehow people with a lot of hair tend to have a lot of energy. But you're telling me that when he was up against you, he was coming, like he was bringing it. Yeah, I mean, we are going. going full speed. I mean, obviously we didn't have helmets or anything on. But yeah, we were working backside cutoffs.

Do he stretch before? No, no. He kind of just walked in. I think he's freaky like that. He is, man. You've got to give him credit. To be able to do that for an hour straight going against a young buck like you, who's powerful, ready to go at all time.

Rable's an absolute savage and beast for doing that, man. That's different. He's different. Will, could he still play for? plays. Do you think he got to play in him? Definitely. Matt, do you think you got to play in him? I'm not saying he could get a sack in four plays, but he could definitely go out there.

He's going to tackle too? Set the edge? Like, he's a running back go the other way? Every practice, every position's indie drill, doing the drills, holding the bags. I mean, they're in OTAs. He's out there after practice. We would condition. And he's running gassers with the skill guys.

I'm like, this dude's a man. And by the way, think about all the injuries. Like my one knee, you know, I complain about all this little stuff, you know, and that dude's never stopped. No, not at all. If you don't like, nothing ever holds him back. Oh, shit. I wish I had that stamina still.

And like, you played against some, well, because you, you played against him in practice all the time and being his teammate. Like, what kind of player was he? Obviously, at the linebacker position, you probably went one-on-one versus him a couple times and smacked, smacked each other at the line of scrimmage. Like, was he a fierce competitive? how strong was Rabel strengths in his prime prime yeah and i can go all the way back to uh my freshman year at Purdue right I was starting to side in tight end tight end you play tight end college

yeah I never told me this I was talking about your rain man abilities before where you know you know the one stat that you just don't well exactly yeah yeah like at no point did you think athletic until right now now you're like oh maybe there's an athlete hiding in there how many catches did you have? One. Really? They threw the ball to me once. How many yards? 19 yards and the first down ran over Charles Woodson. Michigan, 1996. Listen, I'm not saying that I remember all the details. It was kind of a big deal. 14.4 yards. Well, thank you. Yeah. No, I look, I can tell you, I remember playing against him when he was at Ohio State and he had, you know, Finkus and Vrae. I mean, they had such a great defensive line.

back then, and they had an edge. So the same way that I got to know him as a teammate, you know, that preceded him all the way back to the college days at Ohio State where those guys went hard, man. They had fun. They got after it. But when they were on the field, man, it was everything. And I think that kind of defines that era, right? A lot of the guys that we played with, man, back in the day, they had the ability to have

a great time off the field. But when we were on the field, man, it was nothing but doing everything we could do. to be the best team we could be. And that's a rare. Like now I think guys have a hard time. It's, you know, it's a, I've seen guys go over the edge, party way too much, have way too much fun, right? We've all seen that.

You're looking at some guys. Yeah, we've all been there. You've all been there. You've got to learn from that situation, though, when that happens, like, oh, shit, I party too hard. Maybe I got to take off, you know, the next time maybe just go to bed. But I've been there before. But it's a great balance when you know how to party with your teammates and then go

back out on the football field and just absolutely dominity together. It brings you, it brings you that like energy like, okay, we're friends off the field. We bond off the field. We're going to kick some ass now on the field as well. And I think Vrable was like one of the one of the king pens of that, right? Like that dude knew how to have a good time. He was always busting people's chops. He was always pissing off Tommy and practice, right? Like, I mean, but it was good. It wasn't like, I'm just pissing him off to piss him off. It was like, I'm going to get. get under his skin and I'm going to try to rattle him a little bit in practice on a regular. Like, like it was, he was that guy. But I think, you know, the tools that he brought, you know,

was he was a smart, smart football player. So he's going to be in the right position. He's going to make the right, you know, reads and he's going to react, you know, appropriately. And he had enough of that, you know, I want to bury you in the dirt mentality that he's going to get under your skin, man. And that was his, that was his thing. Now, do you see, does a coach try to play those mental games with guys in practice or on the field? Try to, like, try to prepare him for a really freaking crazy situation or some absurd, like, get under this guy's skin, try to get them all hot and heavy. Like, having a coach like that, has he tried that with you guys at all? Yeah, I mean, he definitely will push your buttons just to kind of see how you react.

I mean, like, he's not, I think, you know, you can talk crap to him. and he's not going to just be quiet. He's going to come back at you. He always talks about it. He loves to talk shit more than anybody and he'll do it with anybody. So it's cool to have for sure. Now,

that's why light's still scared of him. Hey, by the way, that was an evil laugh, by the way. He was the best. That was an evil laugh. All right, he's like, you've been seeing over training camp, like he's getting in the trenches.

He's breaking up fights. How does that set the tone for you players. Like, do you guys think it's more beneficial he's doing that? Because he's getting in the mix? Or is it like, coach, come on, we got this. Like, we can break up the fight. We're fighting.

We're going to handle this. Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty cool because, you know, most guys are just staying there. Yeah. We obviously, you know, probably don't need help. And, you know, we are messing. I was messing with him and he was messing with me about it. The one in Washington,

we were arguing who got to the pile first. And I was like, the reason your face is scratched is because my face mask, you jumped on me. But, no, it's been cool. But, yeah, he understands how important the trenches are. And I think, you know, that's something that he really emphasizes. And like I said, that's where the game is won up there. Yeah, it must be pretty cool, too, as well to know that you have a head coach that can probably whip all 31 other NFL head coach's asses.

Besides, there's Dan Campbell, Detroit Lions. I think that would be an absolute battle. Who would give him, like, who would give Rable, you know, some, some struggles in a fight? I don't know you don't watch the league that much.

I don't, but I think you're going to have to look at some of these assistant coaches, too. Because like the head coach is, okay, yeah, I would go out in a limb and say that he's going to whoop up on all the head coach. Even Dan Campbell? I think so. Yeah. I mean, Rayble isn't going to fight fair, by the way.

He's got the loose screw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Dan Campbell has the juice, but he doesn't have the stamina like Ravel. I don't think so. Yeah. Guy drinks like 800 milligrams of caffeine.

Like how much hair does he have on his body? Probably not much. And speaking of Dan Campbell, and speaking of Dan Campbell related to you at all well? No, he is not. That would have been pretty cool. Yeah. What were you going to say, though, Mike?

Yeah, no, I think, I think some of these, Yeah, look, I think Braves is, uh, I think he, he would hold, he would hold his home anywhere. And I think it would be a lot of fun. I just want to know, like, what's going to happen when it's like, when something like that happens in a real situation. You think he's still going to go out there? I mean, that's the question I have. In a game, in a real game, if, if we do have like a serious brawl that breaks out, no shot.

Is he, is he throwing the head sets off? No, no shot, because that would be kind of stupid because I'm pretty sure that's, uh, penalty. Yeah, penalty, 15-yard penalty. So that's hurting the team there. He's not going to do that. No, that don't make sense. Training camp is different. Practice is different.

Yes. Yeah. Now, Will, can you talk to us about wearing number seven? I've never seen the linemen wear number seven in my life at LSU. Yeah. So actually, I was the first one to ever get seven as offensive lineman at LSU. I was honestly, like, shocked whenever I got it, you know, going into my sophomore year. How did that happen?

Did you ask for? Or they were like, yeah, we love you, Will. You can wear number seven. So every last practice before, you know, you finish training camp and you're about to move into game prep. They do, you know, the announcement of 7 and 18 at LSU. And I was honestly sitting in the back just like, this isn't going to be me. I play O-Line. And he called my name and showed the, you know, seven jersey with my last name on.

And it was honestly just like a surreal feeling. because whenever you're a young kid in Louisiana, you grow up watching LSU, all the players that you're imitating in the front yard whenever you're playing pickup football war number seven at LSU. I was telling Julian earlier, outside of my bedroom at my parents' house,

my school pictures are in an LSU number seven jersey. So, you know, for that to happen, it was super cool. And so is that like the, is that like a famous number there? I don't know LSU history. Is that like the dude at LSU always wears seven? Yeah, so Patrick Peterson started it. And it went from Patrick Peterson to Tyron Matthew,

Jamar Chase, Derek Stingley. You know, they, I guess you could say that, yeah. So you're the first non-skill player to wear number seven. That's a big deal. You're a special player then. LSU loves you. Can we stop with that terminology? What's that?

I mean, it's kind of. It's condescending. It's condescending. What? To say we don't have skills. I know what you intended it to be. But it's, it is a slap in the face. By the way, do you know that?

What shall we say? Skill player. Oh. We can be a skill player. A skill large. A large skill. Oh. So you're the first large scale player to wear number seven at LSU.

Thank you. Yeah. First, yeah, there we go. You see the difference, though? Do you see the difference in the connotation? Like, I would have had a hard time, like, even respond to that. that. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to, like, look, I have no problem. I call you a skill player because I've been around you. I know you're skilled. Like, I would feel like you

would just throw us the same, just decent decency. I would call you. I would call you a skill player, Matt. Thank you. I would. You're very skilled off the field. Thank you. And a lot of things you do. Yeah. I work hard, man. And I appreciate that. Yep. I do have an award at home. What's this award? And it was, it was an ESPN thing. And they mailed it. I mean, they didn't even say anything about it, but there's probably a reason because on it, it literally says it's like in recognition for being a non-skilled,

non-QB, not, like it's basically everything that isn't like really awesome, that's what you are. And that was what the award is. I swear, I'm going to send you pictures of this thing. They change it to the protector of the year now. It's the protector. Maybe that was their intent.

I highly doubt it. But at the time, I remember I got it. And I was like, oh, it's cool. It's got a big gold football with a cool, like, you know, I don't know, walnut base and this big giant plaque. And the only reason it's a giant plaque is they had to say, here's all the things you aren't. And these are all the things that people find cool, but that's you. And I remember thinking this is, this is, I thought it was a joke, as you know, always busting chops. And I'm like, somebody sent me this that took a lot of effort.

But then I found out, no, Stacey James. Stacey's like, no, that's a real thing. So somebody sent you there? Yeah, it was from ESPN? Yes. And it said non-QB. Yeah, and I wish I had, I wish I still had the exact verbiage because the minute you saw it, you'd be dying laughing. Like, yep, that's you.

I didn't get it from ESPN. I got this thing, though. Somebody sent to my locker during OTAs, and I just thought it was funny. So I get there and I'm about to work out and I had this little package. And I open up. And, you know, some fans will send you mail and stuff. And it had a return address on it. And I opened it.

And they sent a plastic T-Rex to my locker. And they said, Will Camp, can you please sign this for me? And I took a picture of it. I sent it to my parents. I was just like, this is so funny. That is the best. No. What you should do?

You should put that thing up in that locker. And after you guys get some good-ass plays, just. When you're doing your media, just have a T-Rex. It's a red and blue T-Rex. I kept it in my locker. Yeah. It's like the gargoy I used to have in the locker. Gargoyle from.

So great. Or, you know, he put an actual live duck in somebody's locker in that locker. Well, Donald's locker. His name was Donald. Jeff's locker. Donald the duck. He literally put a real duck. When we came in from practice, he put it in where the cleats go, you know, and you

I don't know, they had the pullouts now. I saved that duck's life, by the way. I bought it from a butchery on Atwell's Avenue in Providence. It was like a legit old school butchery. And it's like grandfathered in. And I walked in there and it's a little terrible smells, man. All kind of different birds and whatnot. And I was like, you guys got a duck.

And he's like, oh, yeah, what kind of duck you want? And he brings it out and he's about ready to chop the head off. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Leave that duck alone. I'm taking him home. Didn't Nate Solder, like, keep that duck? I think it's his pet duck. I got to take this call real quick.

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The best. Tiron Matthew and Patrick Peterson. Honey badger. Corner. We battled a lot in Arizona. Patrick Peterson in there too. So that's three. Three.

He's going to top it off. I'm going to say it because I played with him. And even though we didn't win a championship, if we would have, I feel like it would have. solidified, you know, a lot more stuff, but Jaden Daniels. Jayden Daniels. Electric. Electric. Yes.

You ever meet Burrow? No, I haven't met him. You haven't met him? How is that? Yeah, Jayden, Dan, they had Burrow, and then they have Jane Daniels, who's had the best rookie football season for a quarterback in the history of the game. And now you're going to Drake May. Yes.

I've been very fortunate to play with some talented quarterbacks. I mean, my first two years, I mean, yeah, my first two years at LSU. I play with Jaden. Last year, played with Nuss, who's going to have a heck of a year this year. He'll be a guy that goes pretty high. It's actually my girlfriend's brother. Oh, wow. That's called a breeder.

That's called a breeder there, boys. They start off with Clemson, so I'm excited to watch him light them up. Is there any similarities between Drake and. Daniels? There is in the way that I think they're both very poised. I haven't really got to play in a like full game environment with Drake yet, but just from what I've seen so far in a couple preseason snaps. And, you know, in practice, he's very poised.

And he doesn't flinch. That's something that Jaden never did. Like it didn't matter if it was the first play or if it was the last play. win the game. It was just steady. It wasn't up and down, emotion. But I'm going to need, I think they're both very talented. They both play very different styles of football, but they're both two heck of quarterbacks. What leadership skills has Drake displayed in camp? He's a great vocal leader. I think, you know, just Braves pushes him for sure, you know, just become like the leader of the team and you know I think whenever Braves play with Tom you all has such a good example of a

quarterback you know leading and I think that's what you know he wants for us and you know Drake's definitely growing each and every day and you can see him doing that and guys you know look into him but at the end of the day he we move as he moves and you know we know that and he knows that and so he's done a great job though just commanding the offense getting us all on the same page and I'm excited for it. Like, what were the young characteristics of Tom Brady when he was coming in after Bledso's got hospitalized by the Jets? Like, what were these young characteristics of Tommy?

I think, you know, going back, I mean, we had Michael Bishop was in between, you know, Tommy as the third and Bledsoe, right? And, you know, Bishop was unique in terms of, you know, his skill sets and what he could do. And Tommy was kind of, you know, the guy that would get a few. reps here and there and you know you'd see him but you always you knew he was always mentally prepared you know like you knew that he was he was knowledgeable that um he was going to make good decisions just because you know his work ethic and what he put into it now all that went up a whole other level you know once he got to nod but um you know i think i think early on

the thing that surprised all of us and you got to remember i mean i didn't know if the ball was pumped or stuffed at that point, right? I mean, like, as Dante would say, like, light, you're the worst, you know, mother effing, you know, like, like I was always getting dog cussed because I had no idea what I was doing. Yeah. And so, you know, week two, you know, Mo Lewis literally severs an artery in the chest of, of Bledsoe, and he almost bled out. And like, the whole team is like, and our quarterback coach had passed away during training camp. I mean, it was, it was a crazy year, man. a lot ups and downs, 9-11. I mean, all these things converge.

And now we've got a quarterback who most of us thought Bishop was going to be stepping in, right? And no, like, Bill gave this young dude the nod. And I remember, look, we were both in the Big Ten at the same time. I'd never heard his name. You know, like, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I just mean, like, you know, Tommy wasn't like the guy, right? And so now he's stepping in. but the thing that always struck me was it never felt like you were with a guy starting for the first time.

You know, and even the ups and downs, like the early part of that, you know, his first four, five, six games was like a roller coaster. But then we went on that run after Thanksgiving. And by that point, right, which is mere weeks into his, you know, reign as the, as the guy, it was an old, it was old half for him. And he, he knew how to lead. He knew how to be the guy. He knew that people were looking. to him and everything he did corresponded with what a leader would do. You know, and by the way, you know the name you didn't. And I didn't have to look this up, but

didn't say a word about my man, K. Falk. Kevin Falk. I mean, now listen, I'm not right. So I put it this, whenever I do something like that, like, like, the guys you played with. No, it's the guys that I've seen play. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

I respect that. And, like, I honestly never, like, watched a Whitworth game live, but just we grew up in the same hometown. So like whenever I started playing O-Line, that's somebody who I looked up to. So that's how I've watched this game. But like the other guys, I've had to watch those with my eyes because I'm not going back to watch the vintage film. Really vintage at that point. Did you ever meet Kay Falk?

He can't feel like. He was probably quite a good. Well, he was coaching there. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So whenever he was coaching, I was in high school, so he was recruiting me and stuff. He's a great dude. Awesome.

Yes, man. He's great. He's Mr. Mount Rushmore over here. Who's the Mount Rushmore of Purdue then? Well, I mean, listen, if he was here, Ninkovich would say he's at the top, clearly. I mean, and then he would go on about how chiseled his abs are and how he'd look good on Mount Rushmore. Get out of. You ain't got no abs.

Or hair, for that matter. Do not. Well, he does now. Don't say that. He's going to start crying if he hears this. He did the commercials. Get a hold of Dr. Lopresdie. I mean, whatever it was, I don't even know who it was, but it sounds right.

You know, every time I call him, he's like, a world of investing. I'm like, all right, hey, Rob. Yeah, no, I got you. Thank you. You son of a gun. No, but, I mean, Nikkovich did have a hell of a career. And obviously, Breeze. Now, see, unlike you, you know, I struggled to raise up quarterbacks around me just to be good enough to be competitive. Because the only guys I had since high school were Breeze and Brady.

So, clearly, I didn't have. have the sweetheart ride that you had with these great quarterbacks. I had to work really hard to get these guys in shape. You know, I mean, I'm like, pronate the wrist, Tommy. Can we thumb down? Can we get the feet right? What are we doing? Are we stuck in mud? C, can we get the C? Remember we always, you see the C? It's got to be a C. Hold on, hold on a second. Here's my favorite. He would stand like this, all weird standing, and he would go, do, do, do, do, the Dak, Prescott. He'd work his little hip. He wants to.

And then you see him throw the towel? I know that was a dance move. You know, everything. Wasn't a good dance move. Well, have you ever seen him dance? I'm just saying, no. Yeah, but I would say, you know, Purdue's an interesting place, man. Like, looking back on it.

You know, there were guys that were like the OGs that stuck around Purdue in one way or another like Leroy Keys. You know, he was there when they went on their Rose Bowl run back in like, think, 67. And Leroy was a guy that, and it was good to have some of those old school guys. Like, I don't know how often you guys would have like some of the, the greats that had passed through the old alma mater. Big Seaman came to Kent State once. I don't know, no big deal. Went to Kent played DB there.

Lou Holtz. What's up? Oh, hey, Luke. Yeah, we had him too. That guy. I think he played corner. Yeah. 40 or something.

Yeah, it's weird. The history you don't know. Yeah. Yeah. No big deal. Just they, they call it the Harvard of the Midwest, Kent State. Do they? No, they really don't.

So we got Leroyer Keyes. He's in there? 68. 67. We got Breeze. Yeah, we got Breeze. Breeze? There's a foolback that came out of that fucking revolution.

I don't know. Hey, by the way, that's the first thing that I got shown. So he was leaving Purdue when I came in. Who? Allstop. That guy. That guy. The A train.

A train. I remember him dragging jeeps through the parking lot with the parking brake on. And that guy was a manimal, man. When you watch his highlights, the things he did to people. Ran angry. And by the way, you see him today. I mean, the guy is like, he's in great shape. I mean, skinny.

Like, you'd have no idea that he was twice that size. Good man. The A train. Yeah. He's in there. And then who's the last one? How many are we going for? Like seven?

Isn't there four? You're a historian. We got to do four? Oh, that's a lot. I mean, you know what? Man, put Rosie Colvin in there because Rosie was an interesting guess. So it was Chiqua O'K. Kfer and Roosevelt Colvin holding down the defensive end spots. And really, man, that defense, because of those two primarily, they were the catalyst.

You know, they got us through a lot of tough matchups in the Big Ten. Rosie was a, Rosie was a game or two. Rosie almost ended the game that we played when the when the Patriots went to Chicago whenever redoing the stadium we played at Illinois Stadium yeah and Rosie it was like one of the last drives of the game and in the lead was changing back and forth like crazy and I remember it was like third down and I think this pass went to Troy Brown if I remember correctly and it was a sweet pass but Roosevelt's hand was this far from knocking the ball

out of Tommy because he skinned the edge on me and I just opened the gate and was trying to just, and I remember the last push and I could see his hand swiping and I was shocked that the ball got off and we scored the game over. It was awesome. I was glad

when he came to us, man, because he and I did a lot of practice so we knew each other very well and he was setting me up all game for that. He was. He got me. I mean, he got me. Tommy just stepped up enough, you know. Tommy had that ability, man. I think that's one of the things that, you know, if you're left tackle, if you're blessed to have a guy who has eyes in the back of his head and somehow can just sense

that pressure and make you look really good, who, it's a big deal. And it's not even a lot for that pocket presence. It's literally maybe just that. One slide step, one step up. Step up, go back to the right. Let the guy run the hump. I mean, that is something that's overlooked so much. Right. And then if you're the spectator, You're looking at it going, I mean, why did he throw to him or why did he do this? Why do he do that? It's like, well, go back and watch. I mean, if that dude didn't get rid of the ball right when he did, it was a bad situation.

You know, not just him getting hit. It's probably a turnover. It's a deflead. You know what I mean? As Vraibs calls it, the kitty cats are coming. The kitty cats are coming. I like it. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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It would have been that extra six minutes we needed, you know. Yeah, I'd say there's some decent deer back there, too, man. I mean, I'm not going to say that it's crazy, but it's not bad. You guys were just talking about hunting. Mm-hmm. Are you a hunter? Mm-hmm. My dad's a farmer.

So, like, that's kind of like what I grew up doing. First time I ever went hunting was with Matt Light. We shot the pheasant, and then he had this insane chef. I think on the property grounds where the shootout takes place make this pheasant pizza. It was fucking crazy. I don't like, like, gamey shit. I'm really not a fan of it. But if you got guys that know how to cook it, like Matt always had guys that knew how to cook the crazy shit that we would kill.

But that's, hey, by the way, that's what we need to do, man. I need to get you all down. And I'll do a full butchering demo and break down a carcass and then serve what we break down. It'll blow your mind, man. When you see it go from. I don't know if I could see Bambi go down, dog. Bambi. No, you're not going to see it get shot.

You'll just see it go from the cool room. Already hanging. It's been hanging for three weeks, right? And then drag it out and then break it down into all the cuts. like T-bones. I got a bandsaw so we can put everything through the full butchery process and then we'll eat it and it'll blow your mind, man. The first time I went hunting too was about a year and a half ago.

It was with Matt Light. And he's like, I'll pick you up at 4 a.m. And I'm like, 4 a.m. I never been up that early in my life. But let me tell you, man, it was like a calming experience to be up at that time and just, you know, searching for some deer in the woods and just have it like where you can just hear crickets, cricketing all over the place. So I appreciate that experience, man.

that was the first time I saw your dog tech, you know, get into action. It was his first time getting into action and my first time getting into action as well. And it was a really cool experience. You got to appreciate the love for the support. When he, when he jumped on the back of that deer, I remember looking at you. And it's like, I remember Rob's like, we could go save your dog. And I'm like, I'm not going anywhere near that. Like, I don't want anything to do with that.

I just hope it goes down right. So the dog jumps on him when he's kind of like and then gets him down, wrestles him? The deer went one on what? like it got up i mean it was wounded a little bit with a shot in its back leg but it was one on one like they were face to face and the deer went after tech i was like though you're you're talking about to be gone tech made like a juke that you would make julian i was like oh shit tech he got he got me going he got like he got the chills in my body going i was oh and then tech went around the deer and then jumped on the deer's back and took down the deer and finished a job yeah that's pretty cool

it's honestly probably one of the greats as you know like watching an animal do what it's designed to do. Like if you have a pointer and that dog goes locks up full point with a pheasant right in front of it and you're just like, that's amazing. You know, it's just cool to watch your, your animal that hangs out with you and lives in your home and part of your family doing what it does.

And also what I appreciate of Matt, like with the hunting all that and people, some people are against, you know, hunting, some are for hunting. But you use every part of the animal as well, which is cool. I mean,

that's what, Yeah, I ate it. Your dog had some liver, like some like real life liver right there. Liver king, baby. I was like, dang, no wonder why tech is such a beast. He eats mainly raw. So I save all the trimming, stuff that you would, I don't want to say throw away because even that stuff I would put out in the woods, you know, fertilizer to go back or for animals

to eat, you know, utilize. But man, tech eats a lot of, but that's what dogs do, right? Like if you think about it, they don't typically go out in the woods and find kibble. No. You know, it's Well, my dog, I have an Australian Labradoodle, and he's very cuddly. Yeah. Scared of his shadow.

And he loves the rug on the way in. He loves the rug. His favorite, you know, it's, he just didn't agree. Sensitive is the word. I was scared of my dog, Ralphie, to be around your dog. But then when I saw the sense of control that you have of tech, I wasn't worried anymore about Ralphie being around because you can control your dog

like I never seen someone control their dog before like you got like an it factor with nature and Ralphie's a savage and Ralphie's a selfie's crazy. He was causing problems with tech. I'm like I'm like Ralphie like chill out like you have no clue what tech can do and what I just saw tech do.

But like I'm like Matt is it like okay like Ralphie's like kind of throwing shots because Ralphie's a French ball dog he thinks he's bigger than any dog out there whenever he meets a big dog I'm like is that like okay and He's the Julian of dogs. Exactly. And lights like, if I'm calm, tech is calm.

You don't have anything to worry about. It is amazing, man. You think about like that connection with your animals, right? And everybody has it in different degrees. And I'm a big fan of like those dogs feed off your energy, right? So if I'm thinking, hey, take it easy, be calm, the dog's going to, you know, sense what I'm sensing, right? I think it's pretty cool. I mean, I've always admired the people who spend.

ridiculous amounts of time with animals to get to know them, even naturalists, people that go out and just study deer in the woods or turkey biologist or whatever. You know, when you have that connection and you've spent that much time to earn the trust of something that's truly wild, it's pretty awesome the things that you can learn. I mean, that's what I actually enjoy the most about being an outdoorsman is that, I mean, most of my time, all as I am, I'm no different than a birder. I'm sitting or walking through the woods just observing what naturally occurs. Now, if I get an opportunity to harvest something and I only harvest things that I can eat, then cool, that's great, you know, but that's not the, not the gist. Can you harvest about the time you went hunting at Jelft Stadium? Oh, yeah.

And is that true? Did you really do that? A lot of hunting. Yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, I did go to Mr. Craft early on. And I asked Robert, I said, man, is it okay?

if I go back here, you know, there's a, there's a pond. And I was kind of explaining the area. And he's like, you know, hey, look, I've never been back there. But, you know, we never talked about this. Have fun. Yeah. I'm like, really? Like, you're going to just let me go back here. And, man, I used to fish that. There's that little pond behind the bubble. And then it backs up to the Lawton's farm. And, you know, it's just this cool area. And it's right there. Right. And until, you know, Briggs got mad at me and tried to shut me down. I mean, I was having a When Briggs got mad at you, like, what was that? Like, did he flip out on you? Did he give you a call? Did he come up to a person? Like, while you were hunting? What's that story? Like, because I got a story where Briggs flipped out on me before. And he was vicious. He's intense. Oh, it was intense. Like, legit. Well, we were on the road for those back-to-back West Coast trip games. And it was the first leg of it. And that's when this girl had stolen some money from us. And I put, you know, Briggs was like, hey, we got it. And then they messed it all up. Not Briggs. directly. But I'm like, tell him Briggs, they mess it up. But I think he took it as in you

messed it up. And then it was like full on confrontation. I remember I remember coach Belichick coming out because we were in a hotel, right? Like, and we're in this one little area where most everybody's you know, traveling through. Common area. And he's like, what the thing's going on here? You know, like he's just disgusted with this yelling and stupidity. And I remember looking at him. I said, I'm going to whip this dude. You know. And he's just. And he's just disgusted with this dude. You know, And he's like, get in the damn meeting room. And ever since then, man, it was, it was. And now we made up, I gave him back his gargoyle.

He stole a gargoy from his house and put it in his locker that he walked by every day. Briggs. Right in front of Briggs. Because we were filming a commercial with Russ Hochstein and they were using his house because Mr. Kraft owned that house, right, on the back entrance. And, yeah, I mean, we had a lot of fun with Briggs, but the hunting behind the stadium was, was legendary. you know but it to your point i mean you know most people don't realize this like foxborough is in a very rural area comparatively right like most of these stadiums you know like i guess buffalo would be

somewhat like it out there in orchard park green bay for sure um that's pretty that's that's yeah i don't know that there's many in the sticks right all right matt we know you can talk all day about hunting. I want to know about Will. What will you be hunting at Gillette Stadium this year? Or will you be hunting? Or will you be? I can tell you one. Definitely one creature you'll be going after. Yeah, I definitely will. Defense events. Yeah. Linebackers. We'll try to get him to take me turkey hunting out there though. Probably can't have any weapons on the grounds anymore because of Matt Light. I think it's actually been posted every, uh, every time we went over the rules and regulations every year before training camp, it was no weapons.

And I believe Coach Belichick would look at Matt Lighten say crossbows, bow and arrows, anything, knives. Braves, actually, that was like one of the first things he told me whenever, like, we're going through the pre-draft process is like, you know, if we end up getting you up there, you can't bring any of your guns or anything like that up here. Like, they don't play about that type of stuff up here. And I'm like, okay. Well, it's all right. I thought rule as well.

You can't bring guns onto a... No, he was just talking about in Massachusetts in general. Yeah, no, it's... You don't want to cross-state line stuff. Well, just call Matt Light if you need anything. We got you. Matt can get you registered. But if I do happen to catch you on one of my cameras,

we're going to have a conversation. But you're, well, you're the only one who hasn't gone hunting with Matt, so you got to try it out. It's an experience. And I'm telling you, he's the best of the best in the hunting world. if it's not in Rhode Island, it's anywhere in the world, you know, he has been hunting and just dominated his craft. So if you ever do, just give Matt Light a call and he'll show you a great time and unbelievable experience. All right, let's wrap this up and let's get here.

Let's get on to what we came here for. Let's get into the chillest dude of the week brought to you by our favorite beer. Coors Light, get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and always celebrate responsible. And the chillest dudes of the week are Matt Light and Will Campbell. We thank you guys for being here. Now give us that Coors Light so we can crack it. And Will, you're in season right now.

So you don't have to crack a Coors Light. But we got Matt Light here. We're all retired. You're not. You're the Young Buck. So we're going to crack an extra beer for you, brother. And we have a series of patent questions that we patented. We had our patent lawyers go after it.

And to determine quick hitters, really quick hitters. We'll ask both of you guys. You guys both answer. And we will determine what kind of dude you guys are with these patent questions. I'll start it off easy first. All right, Matt, one second. There it is. Matt and Will, do you guys wear flip-flops in the shower?

Nope. No. No. Athletes foot. Warts. I've actually never had athlete's foot. I bet you haven't either. No.

We build up an immunity. Never have athletes' foot. Next question. All right. Who's the most famous person in your guys' his phone? For you, Matt, it can't be Tom Brady. Yeah, could not be Tom.

Or Drew Breeze. Most famous. Or Drew Blasso. How do you rate this? Who's famous? I don't know. You tell us. Whatever your perception on famous.

Matt, these aren't hard-hitting questions. I'll tell you with a famous guy I was just with over the weekend, put on a hell of a show of Mr. Aaron Lewis. Aaron Lewis. Good man. Can you explain who that is? Indian Ranch.

You know, Stained? You know, it's been a while. Come on, you've been there. You guys aren't too long on that. It's been a while. Speaking of him. What about you, Will? Out to you.

I'd probably say Todd Graves. Oh, the owner of Raising Cains. Oh, he's a big LSU fan, man. That's a good one right there. My girlfriend's always doing appearances for Todd Graves and Raising Keynes. They just opened one up in the city of Boston about a year ago. Right after the Celtics won the championship,

they had a couple of the players. Drew Holiday, I think he was working to drive through with Camille. So, yeah, I heard he's a great dude, man. Yeah, he is. Raising Cains. Big, yeah. Likes chicken fingers.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, do you like chicken fingers? I do. It's from the South. I think that's a, yeah. Hot dogs, no. Do you know who Todd Graves is, Matt?

I don't. You know what Raising Cains is? I do know what Raising Cain's. I think a starter of Raising Cater of Raising Cain. raising canes, man. Yeah. Hopefully it's an outdoors. Back to the questions, guys.

Leave it to us. Yeah. Matt, what was the song on your high school highlight reel if they had that in black and white? Thank you. It was an eight track. Yeah. I appreciate you making that point. Not vinyl, eight track.

Okay. And I'm going to say, you know what? ACD. Come on now. Oh, boy. Now, you spent some time in Ohio. These guys are the greatest. rap group from the great state of Ohio.

Bon Thugs and Harmony? Thank you. Oh. Did we just twin out right there? Did we get weird? Was that awesome? I like that, man. Big Bear.

That's a good one right there. You know the only, I like it. The only lyrics you know of that song. Yeah. Take me down to car. That's it. That's the only thing. Uncle Charles.

Whatever that is. I don't know. I think that's what he's saying, but outside of that. You say the lyric and then Julian repeats it, acting like he knows the lyrics. I miss my Uncle Charles. That's like me out of concert. I was two beats behind. I used to wake up to see that damn freaking music video before.

Okay. Okay, Jules, the musician. What about you? I think my first high school highlight, I think I just had like an instrumental beat that Huddl had like available. Like I didn't have a song. It was just like a little beat. Okay, so not a pirate.

Yeah. Doesn't pirate music? Yeah, that's good. It's good. Yeah. I mean, he goes by the law. Yeah. He does.

Goes by the law. I would have fucking, I think you're in the post pirate era. I don't even, can you even steal music anymore? Yeah. Clearly. If it's just on in the background,

that's considered stealing music. Yeah. Gotcha. Copyright infringement. Rob, your question? All right. What star recruit were you? Like,

Matt, like there's a system. I know, like, you don't really pay attention. Like, there's a two star. Like,

that's if you're like going to the Mac. If you have one offer, you're a two star recruit. A three star recruit has like, you know, couple offers. Four star, you're a pretty big baller, five star. You're the cream of the crop. I would say I'm the star that doesn't have anything filled in. Just one, and it's blank on the inside. It's not a quarter star. It's not a half star. I'm not even three-quartered. So did you

go to junior college for a seven? No, no, that's usually a junior college recruit. I didn't, no, but thanks for kind of putting that out there. I was recruited. I was recruited. You're a zero-star at one point. I think I don't know. Yeah. And then you became a two-star. So do they, they had stars in your era? They did. They did, but that was not one of them. Yeah. So, zero star.

Okay, zero stars. No. So you're a grinder. If he was recruited, he was three or four star at least. No, there was, but it was just the era where it just started. Yeah. And he was so under the radar. He's like the most famous under the radar guy you'll ever meet.

Yeah. Matt Light. Yeah. Non-QB, non-skilled player, non. It goes on for a while. And then me. knows everybody yeah so it's like the border of a star with right paper in the middle so it's paper yeah yeah not that i'm not a star i mean i am i just i'm an empty you're a five star in my heart

thank you and then will you i was a four star four star oh four big big guy oh it's got a good ring to it dang superstar how's a four star there's a lot of pressure that comes with that there's a lot of pressure that comes with that man man yeah there is There is. Next question. All right. You got it. Can you cover your ears?

Please. Matt, what's the square root of 144? I'm going to go with 12. Okay. Will, what's the square root of 144? 12. Yeah, see, he heard. He heard.

He heard. I feel like I did hear it. He heard. They're smart. They're smart. They're smart, though. Hot tub or cold tub? I'm a contrast guy.

me a little bit of both. Oh, ball. I like that. Yeah. You like three ways then, too. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's kind of what it is.

Yeah. Yeah. It's high and cold. Yeah. My. I'm a hot tub guy. Hot tub. Before or after practice?

Before. Before. Warm them up. He likes to warm. Get those muscles going. And you guys wrote these questions? Yeah, we did. Yeah, we're just trying to determine what type of dude you are.

This is a patent and questionnaire. No one else is allowed to ask you this stuff. Okay. All right. What's the most you ever bench? Like legit. Not like you do a three times, which means you actually can do like weight down and up one time.

Yeah. That's what we're talking. Technically, if you only did three, just add like 30 pounds to it then. Like don't try to use your words. Max. What was your max?

No, I know, but that's the problem I always had with it though. Because some guys would do like 405 for three reps and they said that they could bench 440. And that's not true. I don't like that either. I don't like you.

I don't like that. Really. I've never one rep max before in my life. They'll do that now. Yeah, we always do like. Well, what was your three rep max? We didn't. We just did two.

I did like 385 or two. Three and five. So we'll say 400 then. I can calculate that. Like you said, I'm rain man. I know how to, you know. 385. Transfer that over.

You're like, you're kind of like the, the, well, yeah, you're just like rain, man. Thank you. How many, what about you? I don't know where you were trying to go. And then you brought it back. I didn't like it. I didn't like where I was going with that.

You could tell me on the side. I would like for you to tell me how much we benched for the patented question. My max was 415, one wrap. Both. Yeah. 415. And it's probably why my shoulders are junk. Excuse us.

For this day. 415, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Is that not, you don't like that? Is that kind of weak? You're judging.

I mean, I know just a lot of stronger alignment. That takes me to do. Okay. Like Sebastian Volmer was probably benching 550 pounds. He's German. What does that mean? What do you mean?

What's it mean? You're drinking beer. You're German. Germans drink beer. Just think about that for a second. And by the way, I am German, but I didn't grow up in Germany like he did. You know, you know, I love about Sebastian, a little cyber. I mean, he could never make a decision, right?

Like, hey, Sebastian, we're going to come over and play some cars. He's still trying to make a decision, right? I don't know if I'm going to be able to come over there today. But, I mean, you know, if we get a little bit of the time, I'll try to stop over there and see you guys. Maybe later on. I don't know yet. I had to talk to Lindsay. It's like, all as I said was like, we're going to be getting, he can't make a decision.

I think it's a German thing. German, like Germans just can't make decisions. He can't make the German. That's what I got from that question. He's German. Who was your favorite superhero growing up? He man. He man.

Yeah. What's that with the? Come on. Was it? What do you mean? What was it? That was like 1979, bro. He had a tiger.

Are you serious right now? He man. I don't even know who he man is. but I remember it was like one of the old cartoons my brother used to watch. He was like 48. Here we go. Will, what about you? Let's have a regular Marvel guy or something.

Come on. All right. So I'm going to be honest. Not really big into superheroes. I've honestly, I don't think I've ever watched a Marvel movie. Ask him about wrestling, though, because he's from down south. But I will say I'm going to go with Superman only because the underwear that I wear under my game day pants. since sophomore year of high school every game are Superman PSD underwear.

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-d-ds? Yes. That's what they call those. They are in a Ziploc bag until game day. Mm-hmm. So I'm going to go to Superman. Can we unpack this just for a minute? So you're the large-scale Superman.

Yeah. Wait, wait. So you wear the same underwear? I've worn the same pair of underwear under my pants since sophomore year of high school. You haven't gotten bigger? There's barely anything left. So it's like a good luck thing? Yes, I'm superstitious.

Ladies, did you hear that? When it rips? Ladies, they are ripped. There's no body. Like, they rip totally. Like, then you go jock over? Are you going to put the jock over your... No, I wear like some compressions over it.

Yeah. But they have to be on. Okay, I get it. They're going to sew them back together. It's just like those. And the whole bottom is gone before long. All that's going to be is the red band at the time. I like that.

I'm still going to wear it. Yeah. It could be a good look. could be a good look. All right, all right. We got a couple more questions. Yes, I wash them. Oh.

Well, you talk about the Ziploc bag, and I thought maybe it was like that was part of the- They can't get touched. They can't get touched by anyone else. But the equipment guys say, wash it. No, I take them home and wash them. Every day, even in practice. No, I don't wear them at practice. Only game.

What happens? Like, truly, if, like, someone loses them or something or they truly, like, just can't be worn anymore. What are you going to do after that? If somebody else lost them, I would flash out. Oh. Flash out. That's a super.

That's a super human term. Yeah. Is that a Superman term? So Superman and He Man. All right. Superman. We got a couple more. A couple more.

One more each. All right. The biggest purchase you made with your first NFL check. Ooh. My first purchase was a Matthews bow. I never had enough money to get one of those. And my second purchase right after that was a, a 1999 Cadillac Escalade, which I still have, and I was going to drive it here today.

I asked, what was your first purchase? It was a boat. Not your first and second, Matthew. Well, but I mean, they kind of went one. I mean, one's not that sexy. All right, fine, fine. Depending on who you ask. That's good point.

I think my first big purchase, I would say I got a house. House? Oh, there we go. Was this in college or was this in the pro? No, this was in the pros. Okay, pro. And I felt, shot. Not, not, Al-SU.

Yeah, wait a minute. Like, are we talking NIL money? Are we talking? Yeah, it's supposed to be heard. Did you take a pay cut being the fourth pick overall in the NFL? No, definitely. Not yet. But it will get there.

Yeah. It will get there. Mm-hmm. All right. So, I heard about those LSU boosters. I might go back to college. How do you eat your steak? Both of you.

Medium rare. Yeah, medium rare. Utensils? Yeah, yeah. What if it's a ribi? there's bone and there's still some meat. on there. If I can grab bone, I'm grabbing bone. I'm not a huge rib-eye guy.

Who do you? God, dogs and not rib-ey-ins. I just like, what is that? You a fillet guy? Yeah, I like filet guy. Yeah. Keeps it lean and mean. Makes it lean. Because we're going to ask a question. Why, it's basically why we're all here, because the

game brought us here. What does football mean to you? Uh, I think discipline. I think, you know, I probably, would have been one of those kids that just never really achieved what I could have in life if I didn't have that discipline. And look, I come from a great house. I mean, my parents are amazing. They tried really hard, but I was, like, always determined to do it the wrong way and really hard and blow things up and create problems.

And I think football, to me, was, you know, the fact that I knew, I knew the coaches expected something out of me, and they reinforced that I was capable. And so there was confidence that came with that. And then there was the discipline to show up on time and be a part of something and be a team player. And if you really look at it, I mean, people talk about it, but they don't necessarily have the background in some cases. Like people draw comparisons to team sports and how that reacts to the real world. And the real world, I mean, half your battle is just being able to work alongside of somebody who's to your right and left and actually, you know, have a shared common goal that you're going after. Football does that in an amazing way. I mean, look at a

number of guys that are in a locker room. So I think discipline's a big deal and working with people, you know, is a big part of that. That's a great answer. Football is discipline to Matt Light. What about you? Well, I would honestly probably just piggyback off what he said. piggyback. I just think that football can teach you so much more for like the real world. Like you learn real world stuff inside the locker room and the building. I don't know. It's just like you have obviously y'all have, but to the listeners,

you have to go through the locker room, have the hard coach and do the stuff on a day-to-day basis to really learn and experience it. but it just prepares you for life, I think. Microcosm of life, what would we say? Sure. How do you spell microcosm? We're going to take our couple seconds to talk, and then we'll finally go over the five different dudes of which dude you guys are.

Please excuse us, Matt. I know you're going to think this is a little weird, but this is just what we do. Yeah. Well, you can't judge us. You too young. Matt, why, yeah. Yeah, I asked them, I told him it was a series of questions.

Matt Light a stud? No, quick-hitting questions whatever they're doing. At no point is it rooted in science or common sense? Paragraph. Just so you know. Like everything,

matter of fact, they're drawing a picture of a circle. They're going to get that wrong. You know what I mean? You bought a house with his NIL money. Nope. Oh. Oh.

Yeah. Like it's has anything that you said made a damn bit of sense. What kind of dude is Matt light? Well, after our calculations and our patented questions, we have come to a conclusion. It was very easy to come to the conclusion. First off, we asked Matt, these are quick hitting questions,

and I think he gave us a monologue for every single one, which goes to his intellect. Thank you. of how smart he is. And his innovation. His innovation. Yeah, he's just a smart guy. He's very clutch.

Very hands-on. Can figure out any situation that he's in. Very hands-on. And our series of guys, we have... If you haven't looked, we have five different types of dudes. Stud, athletic, IQ, well-rounded, has been the guy his whole life. Freak, someone who doesn't look like a human dog. Someone who may not be loved by everyone, but everyone respects him.

He's relentlessly motivated. he's physically mentally tough. The whiz is someone who's intellect, innovative, clutch, the dude's dude who is the locker room guy, the glue guy, the calm, cool, collect guy. For me, I'm going to have to go, you know, Matt has a whole lot of these things, which both of you guys can be, you can always argue.

But for me, what do you think about Matt? One, two, three, whiz. I think you're a whiz. Everything you've done is well-thoughted out. the pranks, uh, everything. The mind games.

The mind games. I mean, you're playing a mind game with me right now with your face and how you're nodding your head and making your go-tie go up and down. So I don't, it's not a go-tetee. And what, beard, beard.

Um, and you're very clutch. Yeah. I mean, we just talked about that one play earlier in the interview where, you know, you just got the guide for Tom to hip, you know, you're clutch.

You have a picture for WIS? like it's like a wizard you you're the picture like a genius genius you're the face of it now you're the face of the whiz right all right has there been another whiz there's been plenty of wizzes oh okay yeah who are the whizzes yeah uh richard sherman mike rable bill bellichick other wizzes okay you know the same category as coach bellichick how how does that feel yeah i'm okay with that, man. I mean, I just, I feel like sometimes maybe you're whizzing in my core flakes while you're doing this. You know what I mean? Like, you ever, you know, that saying like they're, they're, they're pissing your corn flakes as they're looking in the eye? Yeah. Like, I didn't know if that was

kind of the whiz side of it, but. No, whiz is like a wizard. Like a wizard. Like someone who would probably put 40 hours into a rookie video when we had no hours to even think of that, but it finds a way to do it. No, I appreciate it, man. You know, that's, that's you. I feel good about that. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. All right. Will, on three, we think you are one, two, three. Pup stud. Okay, do it one more time.

One, two, three. One, two, three, pup stud. Okay. You're young. You're not, we don't, there's not enough film for us to know if you were the stud yet. You still are going into the year, but you have those stud tendencies. You're like a little puppy stud. After this year, you could probably confirm that you were a full on stud, but that's all

going to determine how you play this year. first year. I mean, fourth overall pick, war number, the whole seventh thing in LSU. I mean, you've been the guy. You came from the same city as Whitworth. You were supposed to be the guy. Now you're that guy. Pup stud. Pup stud. Yeah, those sharp teeth and your naps are going to serve you well. And just to give you context of other studs out there, you're the first pup stud. We never had a young buck as young as you on here. This is first rookie on the squad on the show. Other studs out there,

this is the elite category. We got Howie Long, Le Damien Tomlinson, Justin Jefferson, your good old pal, Jaden Daniels, who you played with. I mean, isn't he a stud?

You tell us, he's a stud. You played a year with him at LSU. Fred Warner, Tony Gonzalez. We also made Joe Burroughs stud. But you're just said, you're well-rounded.

You're protecting Drake's May's backside now. So you've got to be, you know, studly in order to do that. But you got to, we got to see it. We got to get out of the pub. We got to get out of the pub said we'll have you after next year. We want you a full grown stud. We want you to come back and be just pumping your chest up. That sounds a lot of better than stud now.

I mean, WIS is good. I mean, WIS is the best thing ever. It's, yeah. I mean, WIS stud, WISD. We do want to hear your slater. Your critique of our grading system. What do you got for us? How can we get better? Do you think it was spot on? I think I think system is a bit of a stretch. What's wrong with the system? I like a collaborative approach to when you're trying to solve a problem or a riddle or you're trying to come up with something that's legendary or, you know, new and you're introducing it to people.

And I think there's a bit of an education that comes with it. I mean, that's what these questions give these people. And they do. Yeah. They do. No, in the process was, was interesting. And I guess I just appreciate being the Wiz kid, you know? You know, it's tough, man.

It's fucking hard. You guys are everything. But we had narrow it down to one, okay? It's not the rules we made. We just fucking, we police them. We know you're a dude's dude. Everyone in the locker room loves you. You know your stud, your dog, and everything.

It's a couple guys. So those couple guys kind of axed you from the dudes dude. But you literally made one of your best friends think that he had a disease for four years. That's why you're not a dude's dude. Who? You made your friend think he had an actual disease for like three years. You stole my shoes one time. Remember we went out on the Hooters boat with the Hooters owner with Wes Walker?

and you stole my shoes when I was walking out. I did remember that. I was looking around for 20 minutes for the shoes. That's not, yeah, that was, that was, messed up. I took Spikes. Spikes had a, uh, a, uh, a handicapped sticker that he was putting like a, uh, like the actual physical sign on the rearview mirror. And he was parking at places around Gillette Stadium.

Like when he got out, first of all, I tell people, I don't know any pimps. I've never been around a pimp. But I promise you, Spikes was his clothes. Do you remember the long fur coats that he would wear? and he would have random girls like just accompanying him to like the most inappropriate places and I'm thinking to myself

they have to be working right like that's the way I'm not judging them it's not because of the way they looked it's just they're with him and he's wearing a full length fur coat and he would say shit like I shouldn't say that

but he'd be like woman get over here in different ways right and I saw powder in his hand I'm just saying there's a lot of things that pointed to him there's just some sugar yeah

a little sugar apparently. But I remember stealing his vehicle and parking it behind the bubble. And I remember when he came back in, like the next day, he comes back in. And he's like, hey, man, you take my car? And I'm like, no, why would I take your car? And he's like, oh, because my car is missing. And I'm like, I have no idea. It was like day seven. And he still hadn't found his car yet. Like it wasn't that hard to find. Didn't care. Didn't really care, man. And I still have that parking pass. Because I just want to teach him, you know, like, hey, man, we can't be going around using a handicap sign to park with.

That is a wizard way of thinking of teaching someone a lesson. Thank you. You know? And that was the chillest dude of the week. Thanks to our favorite beer, Coors Light, get Coorslight delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. Will, Matt, thank you guys so much for coming on.

This is our first time having two guests on our episode, our podcast at once. And it's been a really special treat because we got to play with you, Matt. You were a founding father of this, you know, dynasty that everyone talks about. And Will, you're going to be going into the new generation of where this could go.

2.0. And, you know, no one's more important than the hogs up front. We all know that. The game goes as far as the lines allow them. And we appreciate you guys come on everyone go check out the mat light foundation he's got the shootout what date september 9th baby tuesday september 9th tuesday that's coming up coming up fast will what are we doing anything to plug september 7th raiders yeah baby see he got good one-liner are we on the road for for the

opener's the first uh no no we're at home we're at home we're at the stadium that's the only thing i got on They'll be rogand. Mm-hmm. I guarantee you that's going to be one hell of a vibe. I mean, the feverish kind of anticipation of this one is pretty, pretty interesting. I was telling him earlier before you were 55 minutes late. I haven't seen the excitement like this in probably five, five, six years that the city, the community, the region, which is like eight states, if you haven't learned that from the original colonies of New England and all that. What is that?

Connecticut doesn't count. Real quick. What is it? Do you want to know the numbers? Yeah, how many we got? Well, we have Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Massachusetts, we have Vermont, Rhode Island. And Rhode Island.

But it's really half of Connecticut because those are, you know what I mean? Half from like Connecticut doesn't count. From a football perspective. Football perspective. Yeah. True. But the original colonies now. Yeah. I think that's why he's a wish.

Even those history. See, this fucking guy. Oh my gosh, man. Thank you guys for coming on. Good to be here, baby. Appreciate. Love it. That's been another episode of Dudes on Dudes.

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