Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Gronk & Jules TELL ALL on what NFL life is really like

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

Gronk & Jules discuss life in the NFL from diet, to travel, to practices, and even what goes on in the offseason. We kick it off with Jules and Kyler talking about superstitions in the NFL in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light.Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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CoorsLight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. I'll take one of these too. I'll take one of those. This guy's got hands of a hockey guy. Lyman all secretly have good hands because they practice. Inver case, there's an opportunity.

No, linemen have awful hands. Awful. So we have... And the guys that catch in games, like those are like the exceptions. those are the exception guys is that why you always do like the they're like ex basketball guys that turn into tackles

the tight like the tight end the like center in basketball to tight end to tackle pipeline yep Logan Macon could probably catch too he got big hands and then don't they don't you like end practices in camp like if the linemen can do a punt if he can catch a punt that's hard because it's

tough body um okay so we have a one voice voice call um in the same theme as what we're talking about or showing a lot this episode, which is behind the season of the NFL. So let's start with this voice call. Hey, this is Stacey from Texas. And, Jules, I'm just wondering if the Patriots make the playoffs.

Will you be growing a playoff beard? Can't wait to hear. Have a great, great week. I mean, am I going to grow a playoff beard? I am a little scruffy. I think it's because when you start seeing Santa and snow, you must let the beard grow. I don't know

When did you start doing the playoff beard Started doing it in 14 The first year you won The first year we won I think Now is that like a lazy thing Or was that like intentional I don't know I was I think I was watching Rocky 4

Okay When they went to Russia And Rocky just let everything go And just to focus On the fight Deadlift some trees Yeah throw some rocks around i went and ran behind uh the foxborough pond through the snow

doing rocky montages no i don't know i just um you get kind of you start growing it you win you let it go and then it eventually turned into like starting it earlier the next year and then started it earlier and yeah it was kind of a superstition thing but If the Patriots this year keep it going. I don't know, man. My mom doesn't like the beard. Yeah. Lily, she kind of likes it.

She kind of remembers shaving off one of my beards back in the day. Okay. Because when she was real young, I would get scared that she wouldn't recognize me because you go six months with the beard. Six months in baby years is like a lifetime. Yeah. And then it's a drastic change. Yeah.

So I had her shave it. She's like, what? That's really smart. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have any other playoff superstitions? Didn't have playoff super, like other super superstitions, didn't have other playoff superstitions, but like, the focus and urgency was just always on like, what can I do more?

I don't want to, because after we lost that Super Bowl in 2011, you know, and then we didn't get there for like a few years. you went into it like I don't want to go through this and have the I wish I would us I wish I would have caught a little more if I just put that extra time I wish I would have you know or if you didn't do something maybe

like oh I didn't get my Friday lift in oh I didn't you know what I mean and then you think of like well if you lose and you'll think back to that I don't know if it's is that superstitious it is a little bit depends on what right if it's like something like wearing the same shirt is just trying to control something i wore the same yellow shirt i did that too i guess i was superstitious now is there any other guys in the locker that you noticed that had like somewhat disruptive superstitions

or ones that you thought were interesting no guys tried to keep it relatively relatively how you did it all year just maybe with a little more the coaches would always give you a fucking you know the whole spiel look fellas you know this don't be going out there because this is a different

game it's a playoff game taking two more of your your energy drinks don't be doing this just do it the same way you're doing it you know you go out there you take two scoops of it explode you fucking pull a hammy Well, LeBron Delete social media

In the playoffs, he calls it Zero Dark 30, right? Yeah. Now, forget playoffs. Just superstitions in general. You'd mention your yellow Ken shirt, Ken State shirt,

which I think is here, someplace up there. Anything like putting on the cleat with your left foot first? I did all that. I mean, I would lay, I always had to, like, pick from, like,

three pairs of brand new socks for each. And I would sit and I'd have to, like, feel them. And, like... and see it of which two marked up because i used to wear like a sock and then like the half the blue or then i would just go tight with sock and so i i'd always have like a crew sock and you know sometimes and then for a couple years i was wearing jordan crew socks

yeah i think that was like later now has there ever have you ever picked up anything like that or lost anything like that like after a big game so like oh you were traveling and i left lost yeah we i wore i wore i wore uh i bought like my first cool armani suit right before that first 2011 super bowl like a sweet one like it was kind of like like uh like a dark charcoal gray like wintry kind of beautiful suit we lost that game i never wore it again It was like my biggest purchase to that point. Where is it now? I don't even know.

I think I threw it away. So like stuff like that. If I would, you know. Now have you picked up one? Like have you, for whatever reason, you're on the road, you have a different sandwich that, and then you ball out and you're like, oh, now I have to have that sandwich every game day? No, but like little things. Like if I started a game hot and I had like six, seven catches in the first half,

I would usually change my gloves at half time I wouldn't change my gloves I'd keep them on Now would you Now let's say you had a If I had a drop I would change the glove In that streak

Not in that streak at half time At half time Okay now are you keeping Like let's say How often are you changing gloves And the reason I asked that It's like if gloves are hot Like do you would you keep them

For multiple games Yeah no no not multiple games games. Freshy every. No matter what. Freshy. Like, but you got to, it's like the socks. You go through the, the, the, the, the, the fresh gloves. And I'd have to put them on. All right, these are the ones. You're feeling them. Feeling them. Got some juice. Got a little juice. But there, I would always go through like two pairs of gloves, maybe three. Depending if you're Miami, you sweat through gloves. I hated my hands being wet and on and or greasy. Like I hated, I liked my hands completely dry. so I could feel the glove

and so you could not have it sliding on you like Tom would like fucking Tom would put cocoa butter on his hands right before he would go or like lotion right before he would throw he liked the moisture on his hand and I would hate it because he would touch the ball and it would fucking feel slimy

I'm like what are we doing he's greasing you're putting on like cocoa Oh, but you put his check. All right, babe, come on. Let's warm up. I'm like, fuck. That's crazy. Yeah.

Any other quarterbacks, you know, do anything like that? No. But, yeah, he used to, like, he used to, like, put lotion on his hands, like, right before a game. And I could never do that. He's got big ass hands, you know what I mean? Yeah, he just, yeah. It's nuts. Like, I didn't like any kind of greasiness on my hand touching a ball.

Greasing a pig It's hard to catch Wow Okay Had you noticed any other Like superstitions in the locker room Or guys that you play with Those are like oh my God

That guy's nuts No not that I can remember It just got real serious It got serious But also fun But also It just becomes a different level Because there's no

Tomorrow is not guaranteed There is no tomorrow There is no tomorrow There is no tomorrow tomorrow that was always the funnest thing to say when like you were going into a super boy you'd be like fellas there really is no tomorrow there is no tomorrow i say the stupidest shit what's the what's has there let's go is the dumbest thing i've ever heard we say it all the time yeah but let's fucking go rules i i mean and it has so many different

ways of saying it. Can you try them out? You could say if let's go frustrated, let's go hat like fucking juice let's go like get me the ball confused

let's go. What? It's like what the fuck are we doing? Let's go. What are we doing? There's so many let's go! This is what Tom would

let's go. Fuck. Has there like it makes me think of like James Winston like eating the W's. Have there ever been like a pregame speech or a pump up or someone trying to rile the guys up? It just says like the dumbest shit where someone like looks over and be like, what the fuck did he just say? No.

There has it. There has been but I forget who said it and but I remember looking at McCordy and just like, like what the fuck? What the fuck did he say? What did you say? I think I looked at Dev Because Dev Dev says some good shit Yeah Dev could speak

Yeah And Dev would I think he would do some research And come up with these fucking These These quotes or something But I remember sometimes I think it was a bad practice

Or someone And someone said something or something And I remember just seeing I don't know when it or where But I remember seeing Dev after hearing a guy say so I'm like what the fuck is this guy saying like that's how

well think think about that put that in your back pocket because that might come up in the shower and I want to hear what that line was if you ever remember I'm going to text him say hey who who spoke once where we all were just shaking our fucking head like

is this guy serious text him to be continued there's a cliffhanger that was the chills dude of week thanks to our favorite beer Coorslight get Coorslight delivered straight to your door visit coreslight.com slash dudes and celebrate responsibly. Hey, Jules. Hey, Gunk. What was your favorite meal you would enjoy? See, this is why I love these questions. Favorite meals. I just love answering like, what's my favorite meal? We were just talking

about our first thing that we do when we get to Boston. And it's you going to Mike and Patty's breakfast spy and ordering a sandwich and I'm going to Davio's place and ordering the cowboy ribby for curbside pickup while this guy wants to know what our favorite meal was after a game after game and I would say whatever the spread was that the new England Patriots was providing you know because after a game you can bring your family and friends in you know in like inside the tunnel tunnel to meet them after the game you know the to see your family and friends and then they would have this huge spread the New England Patriots would provide and there'd be burgers, hot dogs, chicken tenders with barbecue sauce, ranch, honey mustard, whatever sauce you want with those chicken

tenders. All tons of drinks that were lined up, you know, as well. They always had a southern kind of food. There was always like, because a lot of the guys come from the south. So there was brisket, there was fried chicken. There'd be like beans and there'd be collie greens. And then they'd have like the whiter stuff. There'd be like broccoli and like chicken things. and like roasted barbecue burgers and hot dog you know so like they hit a little bit of everything you know you had the sole food and then you had like you know the white food so yeah you got you got it you got to hit both parties kind of true right got hit both parties you got the Patriots did not discriminate they did not discriminate on food so I now the quality of the food

no they actually yeah you're right the quality of this food was actually perfect for the quality that you wanted after a game yeah put it that way it was comfort food yeah you don't want to try to eat like a tom brady meal after a football game no it's hard to put down you know all the emotions the heads you want to put down a cheeseburger with ketchup and mayonnaise but my favorite thing to do was take those chicken tenders and just dunk them in as much barbecue sauce that you possibly could and as much ranch or blue cheese that you possibly could and that was my favorite go-to meal after a game was those chicken tenders yeah i remember gronk usually would take like four boxes of the chicken fingers back to his house i would

and like you would go to his house after the the game and there would be a spread of what we had a spread of at the post game hey julian kelly kelly if you could tell us uh what it's like on an NFL road trip I know basketball, baseball, hockey, a lot of games to be played. NFL, not so much. You guys go home, stay out there. And what's your favorite memory from a road trip? So in the NFL, our away trips are business trips. It's not like NBA, baseball, hockey, where these guys have three, four games in the night.

Once we get there a day before, unless it's a West Coast trip, we'll get there on a Friday. we'll leave right after practice. We have curfew the night before the game. Yeah, night before game, always curfew. If we play a home game, we stay at hotels so they could check those curfews. And it's also because we have night meetings. So like when we travel, usually Sunday

we'll have a walkthrough at the stadium. After the walkthrough, we pack up, we put our suits on, we get in the buses. It's like a fucking hour bus. to Providence, then we hop on the plane. When you get to the plane, right before you go straight to the tarmac, they have tables of all the food that you get to pick. So there's cheeseburgers, chicken sandwiches, P.B. and J's, and there's like every kind

of snack you can have or want. Then you go up, you walk up the stairs in the plane, you get in your seat. we had lovely flight attendants always that were with us for the longest time so you'd become very personal with them so they knew what your drink order was so I always liked my electrolytes and a cramp juice and so I get to my seat which we're hearing about how the plane was right now publicly we used to have you know the two three two plane and they were like kind of older seats but I'd have two seats and you know that's how you do it and you go to your area they'd have your favorite stuff that you like and then there'd be an on-flight meal

um some kind of chicken can some kind of fish usually always and maybe uh a beef there's there's always a three and and uh so you'd go through that and then on the way back you'd have like homemade cookies made and stuff like on the plane the travel was awesome as far as traveling i mean the plane was we used to go delta and that was the best because you had live tv so as soon as you'd finish your one o'clock game in buffalo you're watching the 445 second half of the cool the four of the four of the four o'clock games that's nice you know what i mean so you're watching and we didn't get when they took that away that was kind of lame um but it was pretty cool like everything else i mean it's it's it's pro sports so you have your own plane and uh and then when

you get to the you land in city there's four buses we all go to our bus you have like 45 minutes to an hour of free time and then you have like treatments at every hotel there'll be we we take out all like the conventional area or whatever the big ballroom areas we have all that take it out so there'll be like little film rooms so you'll have film room if you want to go watch film film there'll be a big training room so there'll be a lot of guys in there getting their bodies ready so there'll be like a 45 minute hour of that and you have dinner and so then guys will start to funnel into the cafeteria and that's where like the breaking bread and the hanging out process is and there's usually it'd be the same kind of food there'd be a chicken a steak a pasta

brown rice, a marinerer, a meat sauce, a chicken wing night before, and there'd be like a specialty dish of where you were at, according to the city you were in. Ooh, I like that. So like Denver always had really good food. I remember because we stayed at a really nice hotel there too. We didn't stay in the greatest hotel. So I don't know, you know, like I hear these basketball guys, they have in their, in their contracts, they got to have like presidential suites and they got to stay at five star hotels.

we were always at a hotel right next to the airport, no distractions, couldn't leave anywhere. So then you get, you eat, and then after you eat, we had 730 meetings, offense and team meeting, and then you had offense and defense, and then you'd walk through the whole game plan the night before. In a big old ballroom, you'd walk through every play, so that could be 60 to 75 plays as a team,

and everyone would go over and, you know, each coach would be looking at their position group, the line would go do, couple of steps and kind of say what they had to do and they would say all right we're going to us to this the receiver would do a walk to his routes in a condensed area but like all right we're running an in cut you're running the cross just to show that everyone knows what to do you know so you'd walk through those and then after that you get treatment again and by that time it's like 930 9 guys would be everyone naturally funnels into the cafeteria because the college

football is on. So guys are watching the college football, getting a late night snack before everyone goes. And then I think a curfew would be at like 11. And then you wake up and it's the same kind of regiment where you go and you go to the cafeteria and then you have a team meeting. You guys go through one last key before you leave. We already have the hay in the bank. Now we get to the stadium and then it turns into a different operation once you get to the stadium. But the travel, like I was accustomed to Kent State where we were. busing the places. So I thought it was fucking awesome. You know, I got to cheeseburg. I can do whatever I want. You can do busing to Muncie.

You know what I mean? Literally, we bust to Muncie. So it's different than the other sports because, you know, they have so many games where it's part of the light. The road is part of their life. Yeah. We're taking our operation in Foxborough and we're literally bringing it to that one spot and we're doing everything that we do in Foxborough at that one spot. and it's a business trip. Guys are rarely going out.

I mean, if you had friends or family, you could get them a hotel room. No one was on your floor. No one was in your hotel room. That was conduct detrimental to the team. So you would get suspended and you'd lose a game check if anyone were ever on your floor.

Even just on the floor. Can't be on the floor. Well, there'd be so much secure. You can get anyone through there. That's true. You know, so no candles. no nothing burning. That's what Bill used to say.

If it burns, you can't have... Don't come in here with... You have incense, this, that... If it lights, you can't have it in. That's what I brought my dipteaks.

George, what about my bays? Some of the most epic bill times are when he'd be explaining the rules and regulations of what the schedule is going to be. Hotel? Yes. hotel rules

or like every year every year the same day like right when you get in right after the conditioning test you had like an hour and a half meeting where we go over all like

the rules of the NFL like we go over the finding for you know players wait the this the that how much it was if you were late to meetings how much it was if you had a we would go over like an hour and a half

of rules and the way he would project he's like like if it's a fucking weapon you can't bring in here all right light no bows and arrows

no like he like the way he would deliver it would be so funny you know it was funny or like we were traveling to Europe look we're not going to be out here fucking getting fish

fish and chips guys like this is a fucking business trip you see Uncle Ben on your own time. Like, you know what I mean? Get some rest. I like peppering a little jab here and there. You know, it was fun. I can just picture Bill being

like, I don't care how good that little thing up Pringles looks at midnight. Don't touch the mini bar. You can do mini bar? There was no alcohol in mini bars, but. Oh, true. You could order. You could order whatever you, like, you could order food. Now, is that on the team or is that on you? That's on you.

You got I think we, when I first started going we would get a per diem oh yeah now this is good for the travel we would get per diem you get a you get an envelope bears would sit and hand it out to every you know all the guys it started out like 36 bucks we get 36 bucks for meals because they said that you know they they had all the meals at all times at the hotel for us so it was like some teams would be getting like 200 300 bucks oh me i which i i don't know but And then it got to like 60

But as soon as we get that money It'd be cash Everyone would put their initials on it And one of the flights Flight attendants would come And get a bag And everyone would put their initial On their dollar

And she'd go and she'd pick two out The first one would get the money back And the second one would take the whole bag Yo Lottery It'd be like a G Holy smokes that rocks Do you ever win?

No I didn't do it Oh you didn't do it No Okay. That was gas money. When I was young, I was like, that's fucking, I'm not making hello money. Fuck these guys. I'm not risking this $36 bucks.

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That's a great one that we kept getting. There is a question that so many fans want to know as well, and they're so intrigued by it. Like, fans really want to do know this answer, but I would say teammates hang out all the time, but it's kind of like what you're within your own posse. You know, it's not like the whole offense is hanging out or the whole defense is hanging out. Or, you know, it's kind of more of like the position groups are hanging out. And then also like two guys in the position group and then one guy from another position group get along. You know, it's kind of like that.

Always hanging out. players always see each other off the field, you know, and outside of the locker room. But it's not like it's a team thing. It's more of like an individual hangouts with the guys. There's different groups. D.Bs are always hanging out with D.Bs. That could be, that could be said. D. Lyman, offensive lineman, pretty much always hang out with the offensive lineman.

Then like the skill group guys of the offense and special teams guys. And, you know, there's always a smorgasborg. and we used to have a group called the Fook that we used to hang out which was like an old special teamer Nico Kudavidis, you know, a couple practice squad guys. There was Rob, there was, you know,

then there was a couple defensive guys, there was a couple offensive guys. And we all lived next to each other, so I think that's why. And the criteria to be in the Fook was just being a savage. So like, you know, so now if you heard,

now every listener out there, that was our teammate, you weren't in the Fook It's because you weren't a savage. Or it could have been the pre-the-pre-wreck could have been to fuck with my house because the fuk was always fucking with my house. Yes. Yeah, but you were a part of the fuk because you were always there.

I know. And we were fucking with you. So that was part of the fuk. I left my goddamn golf clubs out, like outside once. This is all Nico Cudavides. And I come out the next morning because I leave them on my porch. Come out the next morning, every golf club is in the tree. Thrown in the tree.

And this is in the spring when there's like frost. and like it's fucking cold still so like all my grips ruined my whole bag is scattered throughout my whole fucking front yard and then another time i'm sitting there and it's it's like 5 30 it's like 4 30 but it's late so like it's still it's dark great story i get knock on my door and it takes me a little while i'm playing fief i think slates upstairs and i go to the door and i i kid you not I cracked the door open I cracked the door open

Like four inches Four inches And I go to put my head out Because I didn't see anyone from the windows And all of a sudden I get smashed Right in the head with the water balloon True snow No snowball

Snowball True story I closed the door Turn off all the lights Tell Slate we're being attacked Go get a freaking Airsoft gun Go to the backyard

They start hitting me from the other side It was bad Who was it out there throwing them Dude it was a it was the pole it was the freaking rusty benson rusty benson hit you with that snowball when you literally i'm telling you this is a true story jules literally like you know like in a movie where they cracked the door open barely and like poked their like eye out only like it was four inches somehow he threw it 30 yards away and put it directly boom right in the face right off jules got cut it was like

it was a hard snowball i mean i'm i'm taking cover i turn off all the lights think we're getting fucking attacked. You know, I was great about it. We felt like a kid again. You know, when you do that as a kid, you throw a snowball. So we do hang out. Yeah.

So we do. Yeah, you hang out, but as a group. But we also in the small town teams, I bet, like, like the Packers, you know, like we were all in Foxborough,

which was like a small town. And we all lived like right next to each other in these like homes, like these everywhere. Like there was a block and it would be like, all patriots.

And so, like, we, it was like a big-ass dorm. So, like, but we all had houses. You're like riding bikes and skateboarding to each other's houses? Bikes, skateboards, sometimes motor cycles, like, the little ones. Like, we had so, like, every off-season, we would buy a stupid toy of some sort, like, remote control cars or, you know, because, like, the off-season, it's pretty much you go work out, and then we would all work out at the facility at that time of our careers. Dolla provided the volcano.

Like he had a volcano set up upstairs in his room and it kind of acted like a volcano and it would blow up like a little bit. The volcano. You don't remember the volcano? No. Oh, the volcano. Yeah, like the drawing was,

the setup was unbelievable. The guy loves geography and volcanoes and it just... Topography. Like, it was a simulation. It was wild. Yeah. That was cool. And that ping pong tables.

I had a ping pong table. I had a ping pong table. Ping pong was everything. I kept your hand-eye coordination on a game as well. Cornhole. Yeah, cornhole. A lot of cornhole.

All right, next question. We hang out. Is ping pong ever in the facility? No. Does you hear that with like teams? Remember we have it in the dryer room? It was way back in the dryer room. So you had to go through the equipment room

to the where they used to dry the towels. We'd go in and get like a quick game, but it couldn't be seen. So it's an unsanctioned ping pong table? Unsanctioned. Yes. Did it ever like the powers that be ever find out about it? Yeah, they knew.

Yeah, they knew, but it never, no one ever used it like that. It was every once in a while, so it was never a big deal. And only certain guys used it. Yeah, and only certain guys, like, you had to be like, you had to be like in the club. Trash football was a big. Yeah, that was in the locker room. Trash football is where guys would, we'd have the floating trashes, you know, that are on the wheels, and you'd put them like 30 yards away,

and it'd just be like who could shoot in the trash. What was it a soccer ball that you would shoot? It was like a soccer ball or something. And they'd, you know, you'd have two guys on that side, two guys on this side. And it'd be just shots. Oh, heck yeah. I don't even know how it went, but that's what it was. And how many times during the week are you guys hanging out not in the facility?

And like, are you at this or like someone's house that everyone's going to or is it just kind of like? Yeah, certain guys had certain whoever was on the same schedules. Yeah, it was every young bucks. I mean, if someone was married, I mean, you got to. go home to your kids and stuff so like you're hanging out with your family after yeah but like when we were young like 20s no one had a girlfriend no families it was it was basically every night yeah it was every ever every other night because we all lived together or so you know what i mean and everyone was within a mile away so yeah there's a lot of factors that play into it but when you're young

in the NFL you're hanging out with your teammates a lot lot more but there's also you know you have your married men so like rob said you have family men that they would just stay at the facility as long as they could because they couldn't do anything at the house. 100%. Or the married men on our team would sneak out at night and try to come to our house. Yes. Yeah, and they would.

I'm walking my dog right now and they would knock on her door and they'd be like, yo, what are you guys doing? And I'll be like, whoa, well, Niko, good to see you. That's just one name. That's just one name we'll use. Oh, my God. Oh, I'm walking my dog right now. What's going on in here? Can I join?

Yeah. This dude would slam two shots and then go back home back to his wife. Fucking slapy. The page will never listen to this, so we're good. Yeah. If she did, then, who cares? Let's get Nico in trouble. Nico, you can't walk your dog seven times tonight.

How many group chats? There's like official team group chats, like positional group chats, like the front, like There's a lot of group chats. There's like you have your boys group chat. You have positional group chat. You have group chat with coach and position. There's like a lot of group chats. Jeez.

Yeah, group chats. I bet you now, too. Now it's probably like shares on Instagram, TikTok shares. We were a little early for that. I can see that. But we were sending memes and stuff, I guess. Group chat's got to be huge in the NFL now. Yeah, it's got to be.

It's way easier to communicate, you know, to the position. The coach probably just has a group chat of all the players and boom, just to feed them the information. Text. Is that how you guys would get information? Like if practice time change or like something the next day, where did you get an email or how'd that go? it was a text but group chats weren't a thing when we were playing not as big no not as big so you would just you just communicate with each other individually if something changed the time changed uh someone would call yeah i'll get a phone call yeah it wasn't more of like a it wasn't more of a group it was just individual communication them i feel that back to like team outside of facility dynamics right you got like when you start the league you're like rookies and young like is there a moment when like let's say you're a rookie or young team group like someone like randy Moss would like take like oh invite rob to do something yeah west tried to do that all the time welker would always like there is a cool group of of guys the older guys yeah and we were like

the slapies and like west would invite like rob to do something and not like any of the other guys so rob used to get poached all the time yeah but it kind of like when you're a rookie you're only hanging out with rookies at that time like you got to gain the respect of your teammates in order to get invited to like the veteran stuff or the older guy stuff you had to you had to do some shit to be invited to like a veteran thing yeah you got to stand out somehow some way is that mostly on the field or is it like both everything both yeah you got to you got to be good on the field go down the field or like at least showing like that you're going to make like you're going to impact the team and also or maybe just like you're outrageous in the locker room like

you're making everyone laugh or like you're fun you're fun like you're just you're different you know and when you get older you understand because because when you're there for a long time, you don't even know how, like, we were part of, I was part of a, we were part of a group that, like, half the time, some guys weren't active. You know, when you're a young group and you're with the rookies,

some of your guys get cut, you know what I mean? Like, so there's, like, a lot of turnover. So when you're older, a lot of those guys wouldn't invest time in everyone because they know they're not going to be around. That makes sense. Was there another time either of you specifically remember, like, the first time you got, like,

a tap on the shoulder for, like, the veteran group? yeah remember when we went on the uh we actually both got the tap with west when we got to go on the boat yeah yeah we got to go on the hooters boat we went on the hooters yacht it was what west was friends with the with the hooters owner or owner or someone big up in the hooters world and the hooters yacht was in boston yeah we did dinner on it oh we had dinner and matt light was there and uh that was when i got i got tapped into kind of you know the next level of all right that's going to be in like him feel comfortable. Oh, that wrong.

So I was his plus one. We went and then Matt Light obviously screwed with me. He took my shoes when he left. He left a little bit before me and took my shoes and hit him on like another dock when like like freaking 50 feet away. And he sat there the whole time until I left and he watched me look for my shoes for like 15 minutes. And then he felt bad.

And then he came walking over like Rob, your shoes are over here. Man, I was playing with it. That's how much he loved me. That was the first time he felt bad. Instead of sitting there for three hours, having me look for my shoes, he actually came back. Rob would have sat for three hours to find those shoes, too. Bro, freaking light. Yeah, light.

Man, just cruise around Boston Harbor on the Hooters yacht. That's rocks. It was. No, shortage of flotation devices. I thought we cruised. Did we? Oh, actually, we went and saw the fort? Yeah, we did.

Yeah, we did cruise. We cruised it. It was kind of sick. That sounds so boring. It was sick. And I was like the first shot I've ever been on my case is like NFL life. Like, you know, you, you know, you. be on yachts like this is crazy but to your point i know you guys are thinking was there a hundred

hooter girls no there was no other there was no other girls it was just me rob yes west his girl and matt light and his wife yes so it wasn't like wives or girl wasn't like we were like the plus together yeah it was julia and i were looking at each other's hooters put it that way yeah we were like man this could be so much more fun yeah jules why do we come we thought there was gonna be like 50 hooter girls on here. And they're going to serve us. Yeah. Chicken wings and.

That's the real reason everybody goes to Hooters are the wings, bro. Yeah, the wings. It's a family. It's a family. Is Hooters even around anymore? I thought it went back. They're making a revamp, though. Yeah, I think they're around. They're around?

I think so. Remember the one we used to drive by? The, where's the one that we used to go by? Providence? Providence. Yeah. And that one shut down now. I've never been to it, though.

We never went to it, but our bus went by it to the airport every. time and every guy would just be at the locker room like man or at the bus window like what's hooters should we stop or should we go and we come back it was the worst hooters of all time too it was it looked like a dump but wippy do yeah yeah wippy do ripur's rip yeah i don't think hooters goes anymore there's this new one and my mom got me so it's in it's in florida and it's twin peaks and my mom we were sitting at dinner and she had a friend over and she's like she's like she somehow brought up twin peaks twin peaks was brought up and they were cracking jokes about it and I'm like what's so funny like twin peaks like like I don't know mountains like I don't

know and uh and then they're like you don't get it and I was like no and they're like twin peaks and then my mom was like like like that like what her tautas or just show and I was like oh I get it what are the NFL players typically doing in the month of March right now Rob Mm. All right. The month of March is kind of like letting yourself go, you know, you let yourself free. You don't really think about football. You know, you still definitely got to train. So it's not like you're over training right now in March. I mean, typically for my sake and just seeing the guys that were always around me in March that I hung out with, you train, you know, about three, possibly four times a week still in March. But you're having a good time. You're going on those vacations. You're going on those vacations. going to the beach, you're renting yachts, you're, you're renting Lamborghinis, you know, to drive around the city that, you know, you're vacationing on. You're, uh, you're going out late, you know, this is when you get all that, you know, all that formal out, you know, when you've been playing and all your friends been going out, your family's been going out,

they've been hitting all the parties. This is when you get it out of your system. You go out late nights, you wake up, you train still, because you're young enough. And, uh, you just let yourself be, Jules. How about you? What do you think? That's how I see it for players. Well, I was just thinking, you know, like for Rob, like this is his part of the offseason where it's like having fun because Rob played until February most of his career. So like this is like right after the season for Rob. But if in the regular, like with most guys, they're already, they've been out for three, four months. So this is probably like tightened. upstage. March is like, all right, we've had our fun in February and January, and we've done

all our trips. So we've got to start tightening up. That's probably what it is for most of the league. For me, I was always training. I mean, I would have my fun on the weekends, but like, I kept it, you know, especially even towards the older I got. Like, you never, like, when we're young, we would go out and have fun but in march like i remember the cutoff was like st patty's day like what was that the 15th like after that it was like we got to start getting ready for the season got to start i want because i wanted to turn heads when i went into camp i wanted to turn heads the first day of of conditioning test so i would stop drinking like a month from when we had to report so that usually took place around like March 13th and then I would go zero dark 30 in train mode

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We got Grunk Beach, WrestleMania after Dark 2025? Yes, we do, baby. What's this? Explain this. It's going down. Grank Beach, this is the first time it's not affiliated. You know, with football, usually it's, you know, at the Super Bowl or it's at the NFL draft. You know, that was in Vegas a couple years ago, but this is the official after party

of WrestleMania. It's going to be after dark. It's going to be still at the pool. So it's going to be Grank Beach still, but, you know, nighttime Grank Beach. At April 20th, 2000, 5 immediately following WrestleMania 41. I hosted WrestleMania before. So I'm a big wrestling fan. I grew up watching the WWE, the WWF. Stone Coat, Steve Austin, Dwayne Johnson, all those guys. So big wrestling fans still am to this day. And it's all going down at Live Beach at Fountain Blue, Las Vegas, which is the official hotel of WrestleMania as well.

And tickets go on sale this Friday at 10 a.m. or 10 a.m. Pacific time. Or they can be pre-ordered now at gronkbeach.com. So get your tickets now. They're going to go fast. We got Flo Rider actually performing. He's going to beat a headlock. We got Valentino Khan as the DJ, and we got plenty of wrestlers that will be appearing as well at Grunk Beach.

So it's going to be a first of its kind. We're going to be bringing the energy. We're going to be bringing the excitement. We're going to have wrestlers there, DJs, performers, all that good stuff. But the main question is, Jules, are you going? I think I'll have to check it out. I've been to a Gronk Beach or two before. It's, you know, I've got to check the schedule.

it's a weekend usually this is soccer time right now i think i'll be coming back from lake tahoe spring break i think for the kids ends around that time um so we'll see 420 we'll see yeah we'll see what a day what a night it's easter sunday as well it's easter sunday 420 it's easter sunday as well we day, Hitler's birthday. We got it all, WrestleMania, Gronk Beach, 420. That is the day. Today, we're going to be pulling back the curtain

on how NFL players watch film and their preparation process each and every week, day in and day out, and what it's like watching film as a player. All right, well, that's like a loaded question that can go a million different ways. And I'm probably pretty sure that it's different for each

player on how they watch film. Um, as a football player, like at the end of your career, with the most current time you were in the league, how did you watch football iPad? How did it get deciphered to you? It's, are people assigning certain things? So that, you know, players, you watch a lot of film in the meetings with the coaches. I mean, we'll have a 45 play cut up Wednesday morning with coach Belichick that's breaking down probably 15 plays on offense, 15 plays on defense, 15 plays in the special teams. Just an overview of, what he thinks the teams are. And everyone's on the team. And everyone's in the auditorium watching. So you're watching reps on that. And he'll have what he's talking about. All right, you guys look at their defense.

They play a lot of cover two shell, watch those safeties. And then you break up into offense. So that's just for the team you are playing that week. That week. Okay. So this is just a regular work week. We'll watch that film. Then we break up into offense defense like we all know

because we've talked about this goddamn schedule on this podcast a million times. and you know then the offensive coach very similar to like all the other meetings has his 20 to 40 play 15 to 30 play cut up of what he sees and the keys to victory so you're watching more reps sometimes they overlap from the head coach and you're seeing and they're giving you kind of the important keys of what we should be seen for this defense and then once you break up into your skill group or your position group, your coach, your individual coach will have his set of 15 to 20 plays individually on how you watch their team. Now, you know, Chad O'Shea,

my coach, receivers coach, he would show a bunch of, you know, we'd watch like 10 to 15 plays of how we're going to have to go in and block guys for the force or how their dbs are, you know, in the run game and then he'd have individual like 30 play cutups of each corner that you're going to defend with like highlighted examples of what their strengths were highlighted examples of what their weaknesses or what they struggled with so like say you know you have a corner he's really big guy he would show his offhand jam how this guy did it three or four times you would look at his stance on when he would do it how he would do it so you could kind of feel it so you're individually at that specific guy with the receiver coach and then for me individually after that

you know and those days would always change according to what day it is that would be early down day and then you do the same thing on Thursday for third down day and then the same thing for Friday with red area and then overview two minute and all the others and then there would be cut-ups coach O'Shea would say all right you know we have you know I want you guys to take a look if say we were struggling, or we weren't at the standard of third down that week, coach would say, or Coach O'Shea would be like, all right, we got to cut up of all their third and threes, third and sixes, third and nine's, third in longs.

Why don't you guys take a look at that? And that's what you could watch at home. You know, so you go on your iPad. Everything by the time I got out of the league was digital. So you had everything broken down in every kind of like situation you can think. just want to see the dbs you can click in i don't want to see 40 i want to see uh 27 i want to see all his passes defended versus third down you could look at that it got to that i want to see all his plays on first down i want to see all his cutups of any time the ball was thrown at him i want

to see all the cutups of you know every time this guy tackled like you could get into all that um for me individually i leaned on a lot of you know coach o's shay he'd always have great cutups for us That's how you determine if you had a good coach. That's what you always saw from a good coach. They would always give you great cutups of things that, you know, helped you with your game. So, you know, a lot of times you would sit there and you'd watch. I just rewatch the stuff that Chad would put in our mind.

And then I like to watch like a whole game. So I would like to watch the whole game of the guy, the last three games. I'd watch his last three games just to see them throughout the game. You're just focusing on like who you're. matchup is going to be for the most part? For specific, depending, like, out of work, yes. You're doing the one-on-one. I'm doing more one-on-one-looking specific.

I want to see if I can see any tendencies from the defensive back, the guy I'll be going against, maybe a linebacker on certain situations and certain situations. You know, I would see, I would sit and watch them on all those. Like, let's say your specific matchup against a cornerback X, would you ever break out of the three prior games? Would you ever watch any film on them from earlier seasons or earlier in the... So that's what all the cutups would be. Okay.

So the coaches would cut that up and show like their strengths and weaknesses. And you could see that, but you wouldn't know what part of the game it was. I mean, they'd have the cut up where they always hit the down and distance first. But sometimes I like to watch the flow of how this guy was flowing throughout the whole game. From first down to second down to third down, does he get tired? Does he get lazy at the end of the game? When can I really strike them? you know does he do certain things at certain points of the game is he going to be you know a run

factor in all of the game or does this guy quit as the game gets on because he doesn't want to hit no more does he like you know certain times of the year a guy could be a completely different player from week one to week nine 13 you know like a guy that struggled in the beginning could be you know so if you're looking at all his struggle shit what he struggles with he tightens that up until like and then he's playing like a completely different player which guys do they get better they improve cream season you know cream season you get to watch it i like to watch like the most recent because that's kind of like how he is physically right now and then also injury stuff you know like if he's on the injury report he's got an ankle i want to see how he moves from last week with the ankle i want to

see you know what i mean there's a lot of different ways of doing it and then when you watch a lot with like say i watched a lot with tom those a lot of those times it'd be examples of not necessarily our film it would be of their defense with other receivers running a routes against their and other concept route concepts against their defense okay so tom would be like hey you see this uh when they were playing this team you see how this receiver against this defense bows this way and then he bent you know like that's the kind of like one-on-one talk in film talk you would get with the quarterback or it'd be more like route running you'd watch with with tom you'd watch a lot of one-on-ones of our tape against practice on just like reiterating how tom liked how you ran

the route it didn't matter if you caught it or not you know because it's one-on-one but just route technique that was a lot of time where we would go in it with the quarterback to watch the one-on-ones to try to create the chemistry between the quarterback and the receiver. How did those sessions come about? Is that like a part of your schedule or is that like free time? Like Tom, let's go, let's watch. So it would sometimes we would do that early and like we would schedule that part of those individual meetings when we break up into, you know, all our own positions.

Tom would sometimes come over in the quarterbacks, all the quarterbacks. We would watch all that film together, you know, depending, our, one-on-one film together, you know, and then a lot of the times, you know, sometimes Tom, he would like to watch, he'd watch film after, you know, the practice and say, hey, you know, guys, why don't we just, if we were, you know, if there was some insert, uncertainty on certain plays or a certain game or a certain scheme or a certain concept, it was a way for him to nail it down. Did you, this might be like a more of a movie trope, but did you ever get any aha moments or really big takeaways that you're able to use in a game like,

oh, I was able to crack this one thing. And I know that on this play of this situation, he's going to do this and take advantage of it. Or is that more of like kind of like a Hollywood movie type thing? No, I mean, I remember all week. And, you know, we'll be talking to Vince Will Fork soon in that butt fumble game. That specific, I had a touchdown on a, on a post. And it was this, uh, it was.

a blitz. It was some sort of blitz. I forgot like the actual terminology. I'm going off of just straight memory right now where we knew that that corner was going to be flat-footed on that play with that specific situation. In that specific situation, they were going to run this certain blitz where it was going to be great for the post and they would have to communicate and we hit that. Like it happens a lot. And who is that? Who can, pitches that kind of stuff or is it anyone see that's what the coaches do have you ever caught anything like that and on one-to-one matchup oh if i know he's doing x y and z i get this piece of i mean that's half that's just all that's every that's always what you're doing like the coaches

like a lot of those times when say josh mcdaniel's on the offense uh in the offense a meeting with the whole offense like when he has his cutups he could have a play that he took from college or someone around the league against this this specific defense, this specific team, you know, and show another team executing something that we're going to install specifically to take advantage of that specific defense. We were a game plan team. So we had most of those, like every week we had a cut up like that

were, hey, these are plays we're going to bring in or these are plays from the past against this specific. This may be a new wrinkle that we want to bring that we've got from the college level, you know, the Who Man and the Raven and Baltimore. formation thing like we saw that from college a lot of copycat game plan type shit we're talking a lot about film here but can you speak to the importance of the cowboy clicker in NFL facilities the cowboy clicker which is what you see shanahan holding right now i mean that's everything if you don't have a good cowboy clicker or like the button smashed uh or the button sticky

I mean, it could fuck up your day. You ever, like, you ever just get, like, frustrated and just break a cowboy clicker, like an Xbox controller? Yeah. I mean, we'd have to have Teddy on

and, uh, the film in IT people. A real unsung heroes, Jared and Teddy, bro. They, they, they've replaced a million clickers for me. I feel like you're the friend in high school.

You go over his house and all over his Xbox and colors are just mangled, but you just got cowboy collars just in piece, or cowboy clickers in pieces. And it, I didn't, No, I just dropped it.

I didn't break it. The real, like, the real, say, like lithium thing where it was like a rare thing was when you had the cowboy clicker on the iPad. Whoa. Because the technology, they got that technology late in, in, like, my career. When you got the cowboy, because the cow, like, it's good to you, it's not, it's just not as efficient when you have to go here, here. And you're, you're going here, literally, you're just right here.

you want to you you rewind and fast forward you fast forward rewind so much it has to be so dialed because you're maybe you're just trying to see the step that the guy's taking and you want to see it a thousand times that db when like when you're watching db you'll sit and you'll see that first play you'll press play and he'll step and you rewind step rewind that step you know like you want to see that that brings me that next question and that's what the cowboy is there a moment that sticks out to you that's like the world record for rewinds and startovers like in a team meeting. Yeah, coach, I mean, any time there was, like, bad football, as Ernie said.

The quiet rewind back and forth. Yeah, the quiet rewind and, like, just straight, like, you just feel like your lunch. Someone just spit and pooped in your lunch. Rewind. In front of everyone. Oh, man. You know, the one time where you think, like, the coach may not have seen that play, oh, it's on there. And then he slows and rewinds it a.

million times and it could be something stupid like Ernie said on you know false start I've seen a false start like rewind like maybe 10 15 times in a row like first in 15 like and 15 like and that's like there's four or five restarts in just what I said the silent when he does when when the coach says nothing and it's just going back and forth let the rewind do the talking the rewind does the talking. That's awesome. I got one more before we wrap this up. I got a bunch more, but keep it. Hey, go, kid, guy. How was it like when you first came into the league? You're talking DVDs? What's the? Yeah. So you, and, and you got to give a shout out to, you know, all the film people and like IT people, Jerry, uh, Jared and Teddy and we had Famos. They were like

our guys. And early in the days, they do all the cutting up back in, you know, I mean, they'll, they'll do all like the, it used to be like, I don't. I don't. I don't. know if a lot of the times it's like an offensive assistant where he has to go in and like he'll have to do all the typing for like all right what like because if you watch a play on your iPad you'll see you'll have it like lined out the coverage the front the situation you'll see the time you'll see the protection you'll see the personnel group for offense personnel group you'll see you'll see everything categorized on a spreadsheet on that thing so you'll see all that that all has to be put in by someone so a lot of times that's like the offensive assistance

and then the offense assistance will work with the IT guys Jared and teddy and like they'll do all like the designing of the cutups all right well then we'll gather all the you know what I mean it's like a big fucking deal how do you even do that without the iPad like you get a sheet if a against a DVD or is it baked in when you're watching the DVD there's like a graphic that says this cover. Like what I would do to Teddy and Jared, I would go up to them and I'd be like, yo, give me Devon Best.

I want all of his targets. I want to see. And, you know, because I used to like to see or give me Amandola when he was with the Rams. I want to see every target this guy has. I always liked watching how other guys got open and how other guys were getting production to see if you could steal something from them.

You know, Eddie Royal. Shut up. Did you think? Remember? he used to he had a few good years like at the slot position you know so like i'd always i'd say hey man can you give me all that or hey uh teddy jerry can you give me all the uh all the comardi uh all the comardi uh all the comarty plays where he's not in the one spot so when he comes inside you know you they would you know and then and because of the organization that they all have

they would go in and design the whole clip and they'd print it out and burn it off on a DVD and they give you a DVD. Like say you asked for that at lunchtime on a Tuesday. Like you're having that by the end of the day. Oh, easy. Those guys were, they worked their they worked their dicks off. Like those people, all the people

in the organization have their specialty. The, you know, the catering people, the dietitian with Ted, the film, the people that clean, the, you know, the after hours people that clean, the weight staff, the training staff, the upper division

marketing staff, like everyone, it's crazy how many people go into running a football team. It's a team effort. I'm sure there's so much more to cover on this subject, but with time, why don't people comment in the, leave a comment for any follow-up questions. We might have to come back to this because it's such a rich part of football. So leave a comment about this. And learning how to watch film is a huge thing. Like some guys just watch film to watch film, but they don't know what they're watching.

You know, when you're a young football player, if you can sneak in and watch, you know, an older vet, and that's how I learned. I would just go, you know, pop my head in and see what Tom was looking at or what Wes was looking at or what Randy was looking at or Kevin was looking. That's how you learn how to watch film because if you're watching the film, you're just watching to watch, you don't know what the hell you're watching. I watch film every Sunday. I don't know shit. Yeah. Hey, you're a ball, nor, come on, man.

Don't sell yourself short. It's like, sick catch. Nice. It's so crazy to me. Like, I remember I hear, you watch these documentaries

and you watch like Brett Farr didn't even know what a nickel was until like his fifth, six year, a nickel will be in the third corner. Or, or like, I remember him talking about him

learning how to watch film with a certain coach. You know, there's, you got to learn how to watch film. because you can go in without a purpose and just become so overwhelmed. Gronk, Jules, Dudes on Dudes is the best.

A quick question for you. It's mini-camp season right now. You both had different paths in the NFL, Gronk, second round, Jules, seventh round. Can you explain what your first off-season was like from, you know, that April when you get on the team all the way up to like the first game of the season? Like, you see all these OTAs,

this and this and rookies and this can you just give some more details and some explanation on what that whole process is like thank you all right well i'll go first here jules this is a great question because i was kind of in a different situation here the lackout occurred after my rookie year so i never had an off season and he asked specifically i'm pretty sure your first off season was like so that's why i'm going into my first off season because i never had a typical NFL offseason because I was off for six months straight because of the lockout

and I loved every moment of it you know I can tell you that and in April I was at the University of Arizona at pool parties I also you can look at on YouTube I'm dancing with the basketball players on a ledge at the pool

just absolutely going ham pounding chorus lights left and right probably about 25 of these bad boys I was 21 years old I was still supposed to be in college. So it was the best time of my life in the lockout couldn't have happened at a better moment in my life as well because I didn't have to go and train

because I got the train in the morning wherever I was and then I would just party all day and I was 21 years old, typical college student going ham. I was also visiting my friends, one of my friends, Tico, he went to the university, he went to Miami, Ohio. Great college town, great place to party, especially when you're that age as well. Wait, wait, did you have your signing bonus though?

Yeah, I had my signing bonus. Oh, so you had money. I had money already. So I had about a million in the bank rolling around, going to college is still, getting tables for $400. And I felt like I was a multi, multi-billionaire just rolling in with a million dollars and getting tables for $400 and buying all these college students bottles. And how did I train? I would wake up after a couple nights and just go run a couple hundreds, you know? Cut some footballs from my friends that drank with me the whole night before.

And then literally showed up and dominated every single day where Coach Belichick gave me a parking spot in the front row because I had the best training camp of all time. And that's how it happened because of the lockout. And I had videos of me partying everywhere. Your rookie year? This was after my, yeah, after my rookie year. Yeah. it was like a low key like people knew about my skills like at that time like those those type of skills vastly different than mine what was your uh vastly different what was your uh first off season like

first off season is still stressed you know it it is talking rookie off season or we're going into our rookie year no going into your second year or is it going into our second year first off season so my first off season was is after your first year of playing well i'll go my rookie year all right rookie year off season you get drafted you go to rookie mini camp so it's just the rookies they put you through these camp installs so they give you kind of the day-to-day life of what it's going to be like a little taste of it in your rookie camp that's like a three-day camp for me it was like very stressful and very hard uh you know i'm a seventh round draft pick uh i'm in a part of the country i've never been or never even heard of i didn't know if i thought i didn't know where new england really was

i didn't pay attention in my sociology my social studies class geography geography whatever i'm a geography guy yeah like map my map skills are like my geography skills i didn't know where new England. I kind of knew where it was. But it's up here. You have so many of these things going through your head, your head as a kid. Am I going to be around? How's this going? I was learning a new position. You got to learn your formations. You got to learn. What was your favorite position you learned? I like the Z position. Oh, sorry, get back to what you were really talking about. Oh, the F? Oh, the F position. Wow. So, you know, it's very stressful time. for these kids that come into a new area they're learning at a very rapid rate you know because you want

to learn as much as you can and get all the reps you can before the vets come because once the vets come you don't get any reps and then it becomes super mental so then you know the one or two reps that you do have you have to not fuck up the formation not fuck up the snap count nowhere to go know the personnel group know your assignment know what the other defense is doing know your adjustments and and do it all properly so you get another opportunity you know so this is a tough time for a lot of guys and it it should be a tough time because they're digesting a lot and they're learning a lot which is completely different than your second season where you have that all in you know your brain already a little bit so it becomes a little easier but your rookie years it's a tough year if you're

trying to go in and and learn and make the team you know what I mean so next that was was a great call. That was a great call. That was. It was a great question. We had different scenarios. Well, you did the second year. I did the rookie year. It's all the same. Wow, those were fun. We got to do more of those in the new year. We absolutely will. And if you want to hear more about some other aspects of the league life, leave a comment in the section. We might just bring it up in the upcoming episodes. And remember to subscribe to dudes on dudes and games with names. Remember to follow both shows across our social media platforms. Get ready for another great year ahead.

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