Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Julian Edelman Reacts to AJ Brown Patriots Trade and Offseason News

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

It might be June, but football season never ends in The Nuthouse! Julian weighs in on the AJ Brown trade and what it means for the Patriots. We dive into Drake Maye's offseason progression, Josh McDan...iels We wrap it up with a little game of Rapid React, where Julian reacts to everything from a potential Aaron Donald return to the Mahomes contract extension. Finally, we wrap up with some World Cup 2026 talk. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to games with names. Today we're going to catch up on some NFL news around the league and talk some old OTAs, mini camps and what we do in the old off season. But before we get into that, we got to break down A.J. Brown train. Oh, big one. Big one. I mean, it's been a while when we haven't talked about it. We haven't had a take out there.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Let's get into this thing. Let's get into it. Let's get in. It finally happened. I mean, holy smokes. Didn't we all say it was going to happen June 1? We knew it was going to happen. We're delaying the inevitable.
Starting point is 00:00:30 when it finally happened, it felt like a weight was lifted. Oh, my gosh, unbelievable. First off, Jules, what were your initial thoughts? My initial thoughts were the Patriots have a big, it was a big boy move. This is a big boy move. And it also tells me that they think they're close. I mean, look, they were in the Super Bowl last year. But like, you know, you surround these types of, you surround Drake May with these
Starting point is 00:01:02 types of weapons, like that's a step in the right direction. We haven't had this kind of excitement since they brought Rainy Moss. Legit, bro. You know what I mean? If you think about it, I think it opens up their offense. I'm excited to see. I mean, A.J. Brown, he's in his prime. He's 29 years old.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I mean, he's got something to prove. Very similar to dig situation last year where he's coming into this thing pissed off where people are thinking he's not him. Now, granted, you know, Diggs was coming off that ACL had a very productive year with 80 plus catches and six touchdowns. Like he was a factor and he gave that room an attitude. Imagine what that room feels like when you got A.J. Brown coming in. We're sitting up straight.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I mean, this guy in his first seasons, 11 touchdown, seven's touching, seven touchdown, seven touchdown, 17 yards a catch, 13, 7 a catch, 12, 9 a catch, 16, 1 a catch. easy. This is, this is going to open up that offense. But it gives them a lot of versatility too, because look, you get into the big boy personnel groups with two tight ends and you got two receivers, you still have AJ Brown. You get to manipulate the, you know, the coverage. You get those simpler coverages. You could give one-on-one routes with him.
Starting point is 00:02:21 You know, if they can somehow keep age, or they can, if they can somehow keep booty, ooh, that'd be nice. And booty. can keep the mindset of playing ball and being a team player. Like that, I think that's a big step. Because, I mean, booty bringing, he can still knock off the top of the coverage. I mean, you saw 16 and a half yards per catch last year. I mean, that's top five in the league.
Starting point is 00:02:45 It was crazy. Yeah. And only going to get, I mean, you're probably going to get more looks with AJ here. 100%, you'd think. And then, you know, AJ being paired up with Josh McDaniels. Oh, oh, baby. It's a match made in heaven.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Randy Moss first year with Josh, 22 touchdowns, what was it? I believe so. The record. Yep, the record. Brandon Marshall first year with Josh. I think he had 110 plus catches. Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Devonty Adams. 180 targets. 100 catches, 1,500. Honestly, my first year being featured with Josh, I had 105 catches and seven touchdowns. You know what I mean? He knows how to get receivers, the ball, you know, and all different types of body types.
Starting point is 00:03:34 What he does. You know what I mean? I'm excited to see how Josh uses AJ. I'm excited to see the growth of Drake May with AJ. And the other receivers in that room, it brings their level of play up. I remember, you know, it brings me back to when we brought in Antonio Brown into our locker room. Everyone, like that week of practice, zero balls touched the ground because everyone had to bring their game up because Antonio was there. Ain't that many balls going around. Clean operation. So if you're going to get an opportunity, you got to make a stand so you get that opportunity in the game. So this could raise everyone's level of play. All boats, baby. What did you, what do you think Josh is doing to get him comfortable
Starting point is 00:04:18 right now? Look, I think AJ Brown, he's what is. Eighth year, seventh year? He's a veteran. He's a number one receiver. He knows what he's got to do. He's heard a lot of football. He's been in a few different systems. I'm sure it's just getting the language right,
Starting point is 00:04:39 getting the formations right, getting the motions right, getting the concepts right. All those little things are probably what they're going over day to day, just trying to get him comfortable so we can see him use. that big explosive body. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:59 You got you could, he'll be able to use it more when everything settles down, which you're not going to be worried about AJ Brown, this guy. You're not going to be his eighth year. And yeah, and he's excited to be a patriot. That's the cool thing.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Like he grew up a Patriot fan. He might be the biggest Patriots man of all time. He could be. Man Cave rug. The man cave rug? We need one of those. Ro. I mean, we need one of those in the air.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I might put it on loan in the nut house My guy had that as a Philadelphia Eagle though I love it I mean you like who you like I have nine or shit in here Hey got nine or shit Stick with who you're raised with man
Starting point is 00:05:36 I just picture him having like the boys over From the evening back Oh shit put the rug we gotta put the rug Yeah put the rug away We're having company over put the rug on Man It's it's gonna be really fun I think so too
Starting point is 00:05:47 And I keep going back to that quote I think you said it even before this But Josh was saying He plays with such a force like a force. I just love hearing that. He's just a big body that can make contested catches that can run with it after.
Starting point is 00:06:03 50-50 balls. It's just, it's, and, you know, he can run routes. You know, so, I mean, that's all we saw him do last year. They had like three routes and sand and out and this. So like maybe we throw a couple counters in there with Josh and you're going to see a lot more explode. I just like, I like Josh with receivers. me too. Josh knows how to get the ball to guys.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And Drake, I mean, another year in Josh's system being able to get everything operated, the communication for the linemen and the protection. Like, you're going to see, I think we see another jump. I think we see another jump. God bearing, everyone stays healthy. That brings us to some of our other news that was coming out of OTAs. They said they want to weaponize Drake May's mind. What did you make of that quote?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Well, I mean, they want him to take the step to being like a Brady, a Peyton, a Drew Breeze, a Mahomes. That's what they're saying is they want him to be able to be the coach on the field. Get them in the right play every single time and the right protection every single time. Getting them out of bad looks, having that authority to get him out of bad looks, being able to do everything at the line of scrimmage. that's what that weaponizing the mine is. Because we all know he's a weapon as an athlete. Oh, yeah. I mean, led the last year in deep balls.
Starting point is 00:07:32 He's very, very sneaky, fast athletic. Got that Herbert, you know, where he'll take off on you and have a 65-yard run. Don't turn your back. You know, so, like, those are awesome plays. But, like, going a whole game with no MEs, no mishaps, no bad throw. no wrong throws.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Like that is what I think weaponizing his mind. Getting them to that next level, which time on task, that's what happens. That's why this is going to be an even more exciting offseason for Drake May
Starting point is 00:08:08 because he already learned, last year he had to learn the language. It was huge. You got to learn the language of what Josh is preaching, the zero out slot. Now we need to start learning the slang. Now we need to start learning the slang.
Starting point is 00:08:23 We got to start your, the swear words. We got to start, you know, when you learn that new language with your boys and you drop a motherfucker right here and there. And it's like, yeah, in Spanish, or you know what I mean? You know, it's just we got to get some of that slick slang going. Yes, that type you're out in public saying and people next drop is like, are these guys speaking? Are these guys speaking? Is this guy a local? This guy is.
Starting point is 00:08:45 You know, the Spanish correlates with the local Spanish. Yes. You know, the dialects. We got to get them dialects right. I like that. That puts it all under perspective. We're good, bro. Drake just got to get some of them swear words down.
Starting point is 00:08:59 He's just got to get swear words. That's what it's all about this year. No, it's... Building, baby, building. I mean, I'm hyped up here in that weaponizing the mind. That just sounds so good. Yeah, I mean, that means
Starting point is 00:09:10 if they're even bringing that up, that means it's going in that direction. Seriously, yeah. I mean, if that's on the table. And they're putting it out there for, you know, Drake, hey, we know what you are. We need you to get even better.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Would you say that's the one thing if you'd want to see Drake work on this offseason or take a step forward or kind of add to his arsenal would be just like getting all that lingo down and it's just everything like yeah you know late in the season you know it was it got a you know the protection I mean there's so many factors into that but being able to use your mind to solve a problem instead of your athleticism right man we're not getting this guy block what the hell can we do All right, this is what I'm going to do. Hey, we're going to slide the line here and maybe go off on a different tangent to the code.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Hey, fuck it. Hey, yo. You know, that's weaponizing your mind. Slide him. I'm like, get the ball out quick. Hey, hey, pop, pop. Give me a swing. I can't block.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Shit like that. I don't know. Yep. That's kind of what I think weaponizing the mind is. You know, being operationally correct and being able to get out of a problem with the mind. not the legs or a crazy Caleb Williams throw or something. You know what I mean? Putting it all together.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Put it all. Putting it all together. And then some other stories that came out of Patriots camp, the little OTA recap here. Caleb Lomu looked good, playing him all over the line. The rookie. But not in the left tackle spot, right? Specifically, I heard. No, no.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah, everything but I'm thinking kind of putting them everywhere, swing tackle kind of vibes. Yeah, I mean, you could never have too many big boys. Heck no. Especially a first rounder. Never that. I like him. First rounder, no, that's only going to build depth. It's going to sharpen those guys.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm excited for that. I was going to say, and he's learning from some vets in there. He's got a young buck like Will Campbell over there to help him out. He's. You get Moses, too. Moses, big time. Moses is, you know, he's got a lot of knowledge and time on this task. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And you got Vera Tucker in there now as well. Tucker. Another vet to help mold that mind. I'll be sick. I like this. Like you said, can't have, never have enough alignment. Can't have too many. No.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And those, you know, if you have a good swing tackle, it can put you in like those 13 personnel groups where you bring in that tackle for the tight end, the goal lines, the short yardages. It's a weapon. If you have a guy that can have the versatility to be able to go back and forth,
Starting point is 00:11:43 mindset and physical ability. That's huge. You know, so hopefully he develops himself a nice little role. I mean, we're not going to know anything in OTAs about a long. linens. I'm fucking chippers. You know,
Starting point is 00:11:57 that's, this is all about the organized team activities and the off seasons all about getting the minds right. For when we do put on those pads, we can, we don't look like the YMCA club. Not, don't just slap it out there.
Starting point is 00:12:14 You know what I mean? Say no, yeah. Amen, man. So right now, this is all footwork, timing, no contact, you know, knowing where to go, hearing the play, knowing personnel groups, learning the operation of getting a play called in, how much time we have at the line of scrimmage, identifying what the defense is giving us, communicating to our offense, what we're going to do, getting us to the play.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Like, that's what this is all about. This is all about the dance and the flow stuff. This isn't nothing about this is about like real football where you're going to get hit. Right. We're trying to get ourselves. We're, that's all mindless stuff because we know it so well that when we do get to hit, we use the right proper technique and it looks like professional football. Got to walk before you can run out here.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And I like Doug Morone out there coaching these lines. I like that. I mean, I wonder what kind of baloney they got in the stadium for him. Does he go? Is he still doing the baloney? I was going to say he's infamous for that. Whenever I think Doug Maron, I think Bologna. I'm going to go into one of these training camps.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I'm going to ask for the Doug Maron. Well, you're a Bologna guy growing up? My mom liked Bologna. I like Bologna. Myr, too. My mom liked Oscar Meyer Bologna. The classic with mustard chips on the white bread sandwich. American cheese, though. You have to have the most processed cheese possible.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Processed on processed. On processed, if you're having, like, genuine white bread. I mean, then if you're feeling a little frisky, maybe you throw that thing on the old pan. Oh, your little hot dog taste. You got to slice the edges a little bit so it doesn't puff up on you.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Classic. We got to get Doug in here. Old Doug. Talk some bala. Dougie fresh. Dougie fresh.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Let's go. Other news in there was Christian Gonzalez. The hold in was still working out that contract situation. But get him paid. Get him paid. Come on. Gonzo, best guy, one of the best players on the field in the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:17 They're figuring it out. It sounds. like as of last night, he did buy a new house in the Foxborough area. All right. Then that's good news. We're probably in Foxborough. It's a greater Foxborough. I think somewhere said Walpole.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Is it? Oh, he's in Walpole. That's what, that's what I, the report I saw. I get over to the Adaborough. What kid? Moving on up. We got Alboro money. And then we touched on a little bit earlier.
Starting point is 00:14:44 The wide receiver room is getting a little crowded there. Now with AJ in there, you got some talk that, Booty might be the odd man outer. But as we said, Booty's coming off a 33 catch here, 16.something yards a catch. You got pop in there. Yeah, I don't know if Booty's handling this correctly.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I know. I know. I mean, he had a hell of a four, what do you have, 36 catches? I think it was 33. Let me double shit.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I mean, that that was, that's production, six touchdowns, 800 yards. I think he had 16, 7 a catch. but what round was he drafted in? He was late, I think it's like six or seven.
Starting point is 00:15:26 See, I don't know what the communication is, but if this is on him sitting out, like, that's probably like the last thing you want to do. Yeah, six-rounder at LSU in 2023. Six-rounder because we're dealt with the gambling case. That didn't go anywhere. So, like, what leverage does he have? Is his leverage that he's got 36 catches
Starting point is 00:15:46 that he wants to get traded. I just, I think that, you know, I've been in that situation where you bring someone in, you get your feelings hurt, and, you know, but this is National Football League. There's going to be new players every year,
Starting point is 00:16:03 every year. And, you know, I think, don't, you probably want to be out there. Real. To see where, where you're going to create your role. because, you know, or unless he thinks he wants to get traded and he has not, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I just probably, I would have handled it a little differently. No, I'm with you. Like he's a, he's a great. And the thing is, he's going to benefit from this. Like, A.J. Brown's going to take all the coverage. Yes. And then you're going to get real one-on-one down the field booty throws all the time. He's going to have more opportunity.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yes. And, you know, you go into your contract year. you bump it up to 45 catches for a thousand or close to 900 yards, then you go into free agency instead of having all this. You know, so I don't. I'm with you. You know, right now, a lot of receivers are coming out. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:04 What do you, and based on me. And he's a good football player. He's a really good football player. But I just, I probably would have handled it a little differently. I'm with you. You got to be there.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I hate that he wasn't around the team that much during, he came to the, he came to the mandatory. Torries only or something? Yeah, and then I don't think really had any catches the last day or two. It didn't sound like... Yeah, I mean, he hasn't been there. He's not going to have any catches.
Starting point is 00:17:27 The rapport that they've had for the last five weeks, it's just, I don't know. I don't know who's advising them. I like... Yeah, it's weird. Is it his agent? Who's his agent? Let's see who's agent is. Who's his agent?
Starting point is 00:17:46 He is... Oh, he's a Drew Rosenhouse guy. Oh, Drew. All right, I'm off limits. I'm off. If you got Drew, we know all the... Gronky had Drew. He did.
Starting point is 00:18:00 He's still Drew guy? I think so. I thought so, yeah. He's probably one of the Drew's it. I like Drew. He's a legend. He always... He is a legend.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Legend. He wasn't, he was T.O. and T. T.O. was doing sit-ups in the drive-bent. I mean, he's got all the big guys. Yes. Classic. Rosenhouse has looked the exact same since I was like...
Starting point is 00:18:18 Guy hasn't aged. Right? What do you think? How old do you think he is right now? Drew's probably 55. Let me look this up. I mean, his genetics are insane. 59. 59. I mean, dude, looks like he's, he's looked the same since I've been alive. He shout out Drew Rosenau. Shout out to Drew. Drew. You know, uh, getting them boys paid. Yeah, Drew. I know you're a man of leverage. Leverage, leverage. Leverage guy. I don't know. It's just, I don't know. It's tough. because that is a, that's a crammed room now.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It is. What do you think? Speaking of that, what do you think of the room? We got Matt Collins, you got Pop Douglas, Kishon Booty for now, Romeo Dobbs, new edition, didn't really mention him yet. Efton Chisholm, Kyle Williams. That's kind of the core right now.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah, it's going to be Chisholm and Pop and Williams probably battling. Yep. And, you know, depending on booty, I would say those are the guys because you look at Mac. He brings it to Nashville. to the room. He also covers a lot of holes on the team and special teams and blocking.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Blocking. He's got a niche package. Yep. That like Josh probably really loves. I mean, the two, AJ's not, you know, he's going to be the guy. He's the guy. Then you got Dobbs who you just paid some money to.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So he's going to be a guy. You know, and then after that, you're going to have to start fighting to get on the field. Oh, yeah. Because you still have Hunter Henry, who's a pass catcher, who he's going to take targets. So it all depends on how they want to form their team, what kind of team they want to be. And that's what this part of the year is about, putting your team in all the different personnel groups and seeing how they gel together. Seeing if you have a bunch of receivers, let's make a four wide group.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Oh, but if we're not there, we're not there, we're not going to be in the same thing. the four wide group. I know. So I don't know. Maybe it's just, I hope it goes well because he's, if they can have booty in there as well, because he, that speed,
Starting point is 00:20:30 you can't teach that. And he made plays. He made some big plays last year. He's a baller. Yeah. But I mean, not, I don't know sitting out baller.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I don't like that right now. I'm with you. And then, Drew. Tell me what I'm wrong. True. Give me a call, Bob. Let me tell me what I need.
Starting point is 00:20:47 to know. Let me hit the driveway. You get a couple sit-ups out. Oh, my gosh. Fucking T-O. That's so cool. A major bummer out of Pat's training camp. Julian Hill, tight-in. Yeah, it sucks. Season-ending injury. See right there. Oh, I hate that. Now we've got to see.
Starting point is 00:20:59 This guy gets hurt. Oh, shit. We don't have our 12 personnel group. Let's go into Pony, which is three receivers, two running backs. No tight ends. Oh, let's go into four. Let's go four wide. Let's go three wide. You know, that's when we got to have these receivers there to plug and play. So, hey, you're, you're playing. and why today, the terminology is going to be a little different because in this personnel group, you're going to be the Y or you're going to be the X or the F or the, you know what I mean? That's what this is for. That's what O.T. Because then we get into training camp where
Starting point is 00:21:30 we got to relearn everything. The fucking train is moving. The train is on the tracks and it don't stop for nobody. Right, brother. Damn right. That was a little bit of the Patriots OTA. I tried that shit when they brought in A.B. What'd you do? It's all bad. stuff. Bill. Look, Joel's gonna make you fucking better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:54 But it did. Oh, man. It bros everyone's level when you bring in, you know, a real, a real baller. You got better in that one week. I got better in that week and a half. It was a fucking flawless. It was flawless practice. Flawless practice.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Which, you know, carried into whatever it did. Couldn't see an Emmy for miles. No, me. that we had Julian Hill season ending ACL. I hate that. Free agent.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Freaking hate it. Yeah. They were talking good about him too, I think. I was really getting hyped up for what he could do for the run game.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Josh, if you get Josh a good pat, like a good blocking tight end, you can get real creative with it in those personal groups. Got fullback in there now too.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Josh loves a fullback. Yeah. Yeah, shout out. It just creates matchups. Yeah, that's what the exciting. That's what we're talking about mind games.
Starting point is 00:22:47 or what would we say? Weaponize the mind. That's what this is, this period is for. Trying those little things. Trying different personnel groups. Seeing how the team, how the quarterback,
Starting point is 00:23:02 how the line all like it. How the running backs adjust to it. You know, protections, not physical, but mental. Let's see it. Let's see us do it right.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yep. Let's see us do it right. And then when we throw on the pads, that's when there's another variable. Raps, reps, reps, reps, reps. No, that's when there's another variable. Everyone's got a plan to you, you get a push in a fucking face.
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Starting point is 00:25:14 Speaking of training camp and minicamp out of TV is. Oh, yeah. We hear, we know it's football is 24-7 these days. Stop. So minicamp OTAs getting a lot more coverage than they did in the past and we're in these things. It's June, but we're still talking football. Jules, for the fans out there, can you pull back the curtain a little bit and take us inside
Starting point is 00:25:35 a typical mini camp? We touched on a little bit earlier, but just kind of what goes down and what are you looking to get out of this? What makes for a successful mini camp OTA session? So minicamp is like an introduction of what training camp is going to be. Right. You've been doing. OTAs, I believe you have 12, 13, 15 OTAs, which is basically kind of very similar to what the
Starting point is 00:26:00 minicamp is. You install 10 plays in the morning. You go out and you drill the 10 plays. You individualize the 10 plays. You come together. You do seven on seven for those 10 plays. And you get into team and you do those 10 plays. And then after practice in OTAs, you go home. In minicamp, it's the same thing. And after practice, you watch that practice and you correct what you did on the field if it was wrong or you highlight good things. I can't even say that. Highlight good things.
Starting point is 00:26:35 It's weird, you know. You highlight the good things. And then you install for the next day what you're going to be doing the next day after practice. So it's a longer day. It's kind of like an introduction to what training camp is going to be. You know, and then, you know, and it's a way to introduce to the new guy on the team, the young guy on the team, how things are kind of done mentally, physically, operationally,
Starting point is 00:27:08 how it's going to be in training camp. Very abridged little baby version. Yep. But it's, it's more mentally taxing than an OTA day. So it's like that introduction. All right. we're going to be here from 8 o'clock till 5. We're going to have, you know, you're going to go through this, the individuals, the walkthroughs.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It's going to be that same kind of day format, baby a bridge version of a training camp. Try to introduce these guys before they have that five, six week break or whatever it is, four and a half week break till training camp, this is what it's going to be like. Because once you get back for training camp, the coaches are are automatically assuming that every guy that we, everything that we did in camp is, that's foundationed. We can pull from that every time. We'll spend the first couple days of camp doing those things to refresh our minds. But now, hey, now we're adding.
Starting point is 00:28:05 We're adding. And who can add? Who can go through the day format of, all right, we installed 10 plays. We went over those 10 plays. We didn't do them well. Did we fix them the very next day? We installed that night after that. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:18 what guys can handle that? You know, that this is an evaluation process. That's what OTAs and mini-camps are. We're evaluating the team. We're evaluating the player. Who can mentally adapt to what we do? Who can physically adapt to what we do? Who has, you know, who can install the play and turn those plays away and then get
Starting point is 00:28:39 another additional plays, but be able to pull two plays from those other plays that we installed. This is all part of the evaluation process of how we build our team. So mini camp is like kind of an introduction to how training camp's going to be very similar to what you've been doing for the last four or five weeks, maybe a little longer at the facility. Get the feet wet. Get in there. Put down a foundation. I'm with you. What did in, as your career evolved, Jones, what did you personally look to get out of one of these? Well, the number one thing is getting out healthy. Always healthy. I mean, we look at Julian Hill. hers is a kid. ACL and non-con.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Like, and there's going to be, they know the numbers of how many guys they expect out of their 90 that are going to get hurt because they have all the data from the last 50 years and or now it's really that they're studying probably the last six years because of the new schedule of, you know, when the player's back. So they,
Starting point is 00:29:39 they adjust to like those periods of times where there's high risk of guys getting hurt and then you see who's there. And then. you know, I think health is number one. You know, early in my career, it was like a form of competition, which it's always a form of competition, but I was trying to make the team.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Right. So, you know, I had to know all my, you know, my plays. I had to know all my personnel groups. I had to know where I had to be in the building at certain special teams, like all that stuff, being operation 100% on just that. You know, and then by the time you get older and you've had a few camps in the same camps, because they're different at different places, you know, by year five, I've heard the same coach joke.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I've heard the same introduction. You know, so it becomes, how do I get myself better? And with that, after every year, you know, as soon as that last game, you guys are eliminated or you win, you know, about a week after you meet with your coaches, you have your exit, you kind of go over a self-scout, you look at all your film, you determine on what you need to get better individually if you're in that position in your career where you sit there, you know, I talk to chatty, oh, right, well, you know, a couple of these routes. What do we, we got to work? Are you got to work the patience at the top of the route on this route?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Hey, let's really work on this offseason, get your foot, you know, to the quarterback on those return routes. That can really be utilized as your route. that kind of stuff. And then you go through your mini camps and your OTAs. And afterwards, you really get to see if all that work that you've been talking about and kind of put in since March, if you're seeing progression in it. So that's what, you know, setting those individual goals, everything's pretty individual about individually.
Starting point is 00:31:38 How do I get to be the best I can possibly be physically, mentally, mentally, operationally for when we put our pads on and we have to go do it for real. So crisp, it's a successful camp. If it was a crisp camp, if you saw progression in what those, those off-season goals you had were, you know, I remember getting to the end line on a red area end cut was something I, you know, instead of getting to that end line, like positioning of those tops of routes. I remember a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I remember, you know, in my fourth, fifth year, I took a lot of time and I'm working that, the juke route, you know, really putting your foot in the ground at the quarterback when you're coming out, like sitting there a thousand times and doing that movement, you know, and then seeing it happen in an OTA practice film or in a mini-camp practice film.
Starting point is 00:32:40 That's when you kind of know, if it was a successful camp. But number one thing is staying healthy and just kind of retaining and and mentally picking up the new keys for the year because there's always some kind of new wrinkle the OC brings in after they've been studying for five weeks, six, eight weeks away from, you know, the program or the building. Every coach has something they've been working on. and so really being able to digest that.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So I think health, what your goals were, and just being clean, you know. So then when July comes, you're hitting the ground, running river. So when July comes, that's when the real competition starts. In those six weeks, baby, get that body right. Well, whenever you hear about people like getting out of shape, it's not right now. Usually these guys right now are probably in some of the best shape because, you know, the beginning of the off season phase one, everyone comes back and you condition together,
Starting point is 00:33:43 you lift together. That's like a three week period. Then it goes into like you, you add like a, you get one period a day doing an individual with the coach. So then you go weightlifting, run, and then you have like one period.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And then it rolls into your OTA. So like you've been compounding weeks of running, lifting, you know, And then, you know, by the time camps are done, you're in pretty decent shape. Oh, yeah. Not that much when you got out of shape. But I was always in pretty real good shape right now.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Oh, yeah. You know, and then you have five weeks until training camp. That's when guys get out of shape. Yes. You know, you go from running every four days a week with the team. And you get, you know, you got guys that go home and eat a lot. Barbecue season. It's BB season.
Starting point is 00:34:38 season. Chilling in the yard. Chilling in the yard. And then they come back, you know, five, seven pounds overweight. Oh, boy. You know, it's more of the younger guys that aren't really accustomed to the free time.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And, you know, usually those guys are coming from college. They got this. They got that. There's so many more things in college. You know, becoming a professional athlete, a lot of it is how you deal with your time. You know, and then the guys that figure that out earlier are the guys that play longer.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Time management, compartmentalization, all that, baby. All about that. All that. All right. And we've been pretty Patriots heavy here. A lot to talk about out of Foxborough. But we got a lot of stuff going on around the league.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So, Jules, you ready for a little rapid fire react here? Let's go rapid fire here. Let's go rapid fire. We got some hot topics from around the league. Just want to get your gut reaction high level on them, one or two sentences. See how you're feeling on this one. First up, Miles Garrett,
Starting point is 00:35:36 trade it to the L.A. Rams. Will Aaron Donald come out of retirement? What do you think of the whole situation? Scripted. It was written. It was written. L.A. going back. The Super Bowl is in L.A. again.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, I know. I know. Last time it was in Super Bowl, the Rams were there. I mean, yeah, funny how that works out. His girlfriend, the awesome, I follow her on Instagram. Is it a great? Kim, right?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Kim, gold medalist Olympian lives here. Oh, he comes here. Aaron Arnold's coming up. This shit's scripted, bro. No, what do you know? This is going to be fun. I think so, too. You just, you know, God willing, everyone stays healthy and, you know, because you, you always hear about these super teams.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Oh, yeah. And the NFL's one of those things, right? You know, I remember those, back before I was even in the league, remember those old Philadelphia teams and they got T.O. Yes. They never got over the hump. The 07 Patriots team, like, didn't get it done. You know, there's something about those super. What super team made it?
Starting point is 00:36:42 NFL-wise, I'm trying to think. There's a couple. I just don't know them off the top of my head. Because I know all the ones that didn't make it. But other leagues, NBA, some of those. It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun to watch. Who's it?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Who's the D.C.? So it's not where him? It's Niners. It's Shula. Chris Shula. Shula. Shula. Shula.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah, in his third year. What he's got this year. I mean, he's. He got the name. Hey, we got our boy, we got our boy Joe Cordon in there too. So the admiral. And the admiral is there. Pulling it down.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Speaking of a super team. Super team. All right. Man, I can't wait to see what happens there. Next up, Jules. Fernando Mendoza reportedly will not take any endorsement deals for the foreseeable future. He's focusing only on football, not commercials, none of that stuff. Thoughts on that.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I mean, he probably already has $10 million in his bank account from college. Then Bloomington bucks. All right. Like, this is smart. I mean, this is something you expect of Fernando Mendoza. Says all the right things. Says all the right things. All the right things.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Does all the right things. I want him to be so good. Me too. You root for him. You root for a guy that, like, he literally, anytime I hear him speak, says, man, that's what you got to say. Amen.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Although I did hear he's trying to trademark the nickname the Nandalorian. Weird. I don't know if I like that. I like it. Star Wars. That's him. That's him. He looks like it.
Starting point is 00:38:10 He is a little dorky. He is. And you need to have 30% dork in your quarterback. You're right. Blending a Star Wars into your nickname as a slightly dorky. It fits. I like him. It plays.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I freaking love Fernando Mendoza. I think he's going to be good. I hope he's going to be good. I hope so too. Speaking of great quarterback. It gives the template for all like us parents. Yes. And,
Starting point is 00:38:31 you know, hey, act like him. Do it the right way. Go to class. Does he like a triple major? Something. Cal.
Starting point is 00:38:39 In the end. and all that. I think he actually got his degree. I walked, graduated. No, I think he's got like masters and stuff. I believe it. Dad's doctor, mom star, tennis player. He's doing it right.
Starting point is 00:38:50 He's doing it right. This guy. He's got the pedigree. He's a political refugee out of Cuba. I mean, he's just this American dream. Hey, I'm moving for him out in the desert. See. All right. Speaking of great quarterbacks with a little bit of dorky to him,
Starting point is 00:39:03 Patrick Mahomes signs a $500 million extension to become the highest paid QB in the league, taking over from Dak Prescott. resetting the market there. This was expected. Expected. And taking a little page from the old Patriots playbook. Doing some gymnastics? A little little salary cap gymnastics.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Let's create a little extra room. We know this guy's going to be around a while. Brett Veach. Brad Veach, we see you, bro. Beach, I see you, Vech. What's he called? Two degrees, three degrees. Veach listens.
Starting point is 00:39:30 He does. Oh, yeah. He loves a paw. Shout out to Veach. I like him. Hey, we like those guys over there. Hey, I love Andy Reid. I got to meet them at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Big Red. Andy pulled me over and like grab me I just wanted to hug him. I love seeing him behind Pat and like a Hawaiian shirt. Yeah. Just at the sign. He seems like a fun, awesome coach. He'll rip your ass, but.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I love it. You know, like, you like that. He's the last one of a dollar. And Pat deserves it. Oh, yeah. Pat's going to come back. He'll be back. Every dollar.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Every dollar. Speaking of legendary coaches, Sean Peyton signs a five-year extension to stay in Denver. What do you think of this? I think it's well deserved. Amen. Look, Sean,
Starting point is 00:40:08 Peyton was getting a lot of, getting a lot of, he did a real ballsy move by just the whole Russell Wilson situation. 90 million in cap. Gave up 70 points his first year. Crazy. Down in Miami. And now they got like top two, top five defense. They go to the damn, they're one game away from the Super Bowl last year with a rookie
Starting point is 00:40:35 quarterback or a, you know. Yeah, Bose is, he's found his new. Second year quarterback. So it's been real fun to watch. Sean Payton, you know, he's really all in on what he believes. And it can rub people sometimes the wrong way. But look, the guy just went to the AFC championship last year. Darn right, 33 and 21 in three seasons in Denver.
Starting point is 00:40:57 184 all-time wins. Second most among an active coach. That's what he's doing. Right behind Big Red with 279 there. Yeah, shout out Sean Payton, man. Shout out. Denver's going to be a force out there, man. And he's probably loved out there.
Starting point is 00:41:09 That's a cool football town. AFC West is getting crowded, man. Yeah. Denver with Sean Payton, like, that's a, I bet you he loves it there. Oh, yeah. They love their football. They love the football. It's a beautiful city.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Great food. Cool culture-ish. Weeds legal. Weed is leaped, mushrooms are legal. I mean, we know Sean likes to dabble. Ah, we've seen the pictures. Shout out. Shout out. We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Starting point is 00:42:21 I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place soccer, football at home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force.
Starting point is 00:42:42 From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the men's World Cup this summer,
Starting point is 00:43:16 listen to American Football as part of the My Coutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, next up, Stefan Diggs remains a free agent. Thoughts on this? Yeah, I mean, to probably be expected with all the noise. Yep. Someone will get hurt and he'll find himself in a good sense.
Starting point is 00:43:44 situation. 32 years old coming off a thousand yards season. He looks like he's in shape. I mean, I see him working on Instagram. Grinding, baby. grinding. grinding. grinding. Uh, you know, you hear the Kansas City rumors. Here are the Rams rumors. I don't know. Either would be interesting. Both would be interesting. I mean, he still got, he still got some, some tread on him tires. The Homer and me wants him to come back to the Patriots, but I think that ship has sailed. Unfortunately, I don't know, though. Yeah, I don't know. And then moving on over to Cleveland. We got a QB competition going down between Shador Sanders and DeShon Watson.
Starting point is 00:44:17 This is fun. This is fun because Shador, I mean, you can say what you want about Shador Sanders. Guy makes plays and moves the ball. I keep on hearing a lot of the analysts and this, that. I mean, man, offense looked different when he was in. It did. A little juice to it.
Starting point is 00:44:39 A little life. A little juice. A little juice. A little swagger to it. And then you look on the other side, Deshawn Watson, What Watson are we getting? Are we getting, you know, Houston Watson? Are we going to get Watson of, you know, last few years?
Starting point is 00:44:53 You know, he may be a little time off was good for his mind. Hopefully get his body right, stay healthy. This is, you know, so he's played a lot of football. He knows the game. It's in there. We've seen it in there. So this is going to be a fun one. Todd Munkin had support for both guys and said both are capable of playing winning football.
Starting point is 00:45:13 GM, Andrew Barry said everything is on the table and we got to deal with the players we have. Everything's, who knows? Nobody's gotten the starting label just yet. We're in June here. Come on. Yeah, I mean, we're in competition. You can't compete yet in diapers. No.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I mean, right now it's just about learning as much as you can. So when you can go compete, it looks good. Amen. This comes a year almost to the day after. owner Jimmy Haslam said that Deshawn Watson trade was a big swing and a miss. Jimmy. Hey. Still time left, brother.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Sometimes you miss and you go again and you miss again, you know, like in the cartoons. Yes. You got another app bad. We get three strikes in here. This is America. Never know. You never know. Amen.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I mean, shit. Sam Donald just won a Super Bowl. Facts. Baker Mayfield's about to get paid. Say that three years ago. Literally. He was seeing guns. now he's in rings.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Crazy. So, I mean, that's literally, that's the cool thing about this league. Amen. And the first start and winning cures everything. Big facts. And last, but certainly not least, Caleb Williams is the Madden Man this year
Starting point is 00:46:33 with the jump man, the jump throw. The jump throw. Thoughts on that. That's like a logo. Literally. Is he with Jordan? Should be. I don't think he is, though.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I don't think he's Nike, though. Is he? It looks like a Jordan throw, like logo. Literally should be. They're like, they're like almost like merging his one. Yeah, he is Nike. Nike. But like the, the jump throw, the jump man right there with the sky.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It's all like. It's a great madden cover. It's insane. It's a great madden cover. And it's, it's deserved. I mean, dude, Caleb's exciting. And the kids love him. They love him.
Starting point is 00:47:09 The kids love him. I see. I'm here in L.A. I see his jersey at like schools. You know, kids love him. I love him. And he's the new age quarterback. He's the first NIL quarterback, really.
Starting point is 00:47:22 If you think about it, so it's been, it's fun. Let's see if he can, he can back it up again. Get your feet on the other first and then you bring in Joe Tunney and look at you now. Joe Tooney. Oh, tuned dog. Now you're winning, baby. Freaking. Funny how that works out.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Who's our, our coach. Who's that over in Ben Johnson? Johnson. Whiz, kid. Well, you know, now we got expectations. Like that triumvirate. Different, though. It's different when you can't sneak up on fools.
Starting point is 00:47:53 This is true. You got to embrace the bullseye. Got to embrace a bullseye. They're going to be bullseyeed. They won it last year. I know. And you still got a pissed off. Dan Campbell and Lions.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Minnesota is going to be pretty good with Kyler Murray, I think. I mean, Kyler Murray is going to have receivers he's never even seen. Yeah. I mean, he had. Marvin Harris. The Andre. for a little while, did he? He had DeAndre for a little while.
Starting point is 00:48:19 He had Marvin Harrison. He didn't have Justin Jefferson. Didn't have JJ. No Jay Jettas. Or Addison or Hawkinson. He's got some guys, man. So they're going to be good. And he's got the QB whisperer coaching him.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Who? He's got his QB whisperer there. O'Connell. O'Connell. He'll mold is mine. And then Green Bay. That's a tough division. That's so tough.
Starting point is 00:48:40 That's a tough division. God, I wish football was here already. We're like 80-something days away. 80-something days away? NFC North, right? Yep. NFC North, woo, routed. I like that there's a lot of... They've been good for a couple of years now.
Starting point is 00:48:54 They've been good since those lions got good because the Packers have always been pretty good. Yeah, it's running that thing. And then now you got the bears in there because Minnesota was dipping in there. Like that's a tough division. It really is. Everyone's got something.
Starting point is 00:49:09 And everyone's kind of taking their little turn at top of the heap here and there in the last couple of years. A lot of parody. I love to see that. And speaking of, We've been talking a lot of football here. But this is World Cup season.
Starting point is 00:49:20 We've got to talk a little football. How about it, man? You've been loving this or what? I have. I'm getting into it, man. I got a fever. I did too. And it was honestly, shout out to the USA.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Unreal. What a start. The USA. 4-1 beat Paraguay. Got some of our results here up here. I know. I don't see, I'm not, I'm a casual. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I'm a casual, but I'm in a couple text groups with guys that think they're like Mel Kiber's of, freaking soccer. Right. Some tacticians over here. Tacticians. And I've never seen the United States beat the shit out of someone like that, ever.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Beat down. Start to finish. We've never seen the U.S. go out and do what they're supposed to do. I always remember, like, even when they're better than teams, it's always kind of a struggle. Right. You know, I like number 20, 20s. This goal score, police it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Off. Like, he's setting shit up. They just look. Good. And then the other right wing guy is good. That was, I mean, it's been fun. And then you look at all, look at all the Middle East teams. They all been surprising fools. Seriously. People have been like Egypt. Egypt, bro. One. Mosales, shout out.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Guitar. Cutter. Freaking went one-to-one. Switzerland. Morocco's in there. Tijuana. Morocco is, they won. They're really good. Great goalkeeping there. I mean, it's been, it's been fun to watch. There's been some crazy. How about shout out Japan? First half, parking the bus, 11 men behind the ball. This is going to be boring.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Second half, 2-2 opens up. Crazy scoring, awesome pace. Against the Netherlands, that's been one of the best matches of the tournament so far. Iran and then also, there was one of the Caribbean teams. Oh, Cape Verde with Spain.
Starting point is 00:51:07 1-1. Curisal got their first goal ever. But one up on Germany, 7-1, but you still got a goal in there. It was 1-0 for, I think. Yeah, it was. Dude, like that tiny little nation up against the power of Germany, unreal. The Germans, they did slap them up.
Starting point is 00:51:23 The Germans put up seven points. That's insane. Looks like a goddamn football score. Or baseball score with a bad pitcher on the mound. Nothing, nothing though, tying Spain. Shout out. No, that is huge. Do you see the goalie?
Starting point is 00:51:38 And Cape Verde, there's a big Cape Verdeum population in Boston. Oh, like second biggest outside of Cape Verde. Is it? I think it is. I just always remember seeing Cape Verdeans. And so they got to be pumped out there. They love it. I'm kind of going for Cape Verdea.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Bro, their goalie. 40,000 Instagram followers? 2 million now. No, it's up to five. Five? You tell me soccer in the world's game. I mean, it is. Holy smokes man of the match.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And with those, there's got to be some baddies in the DMs there. Probably. Five million. Just do the numbers. Just do the numbers. Just do the numbers. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Yeah, Tom was in New York at the game, rooting on Brazil. I got it. Namar on the sidelines. Got to. baby he's an honorary brazilian honorary yeah he's good in the favelas bro yeah i was at the
Starting point is 00:52:21 hit the game last night in iran new zealand the favelas probably going off probably going off bro what did you say junior i was at the uh the game last night iran new zealand how was over at sofi insane electric all time atmosphere protests outside a little scary weathered him i was kind of like froze from i was like i thought i was in like that curb episode
Starting point is 00:52:41 where larry's right in the as long as you're not wearing a spurs jersey you're good. No, no, no, I was good. I've been seeing Spurs. I watched last week. Spurs fans getting beat up except that one dude. That one dude did like a 20-d-1. Knocked fools out left or right.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Look like a damn Jason Statham scene. Man, what's up with the Nick fans? They're insane. They're the worst. Besides Sam and the Rizzler, I hate him. It's crazy because it's such a likable team. And then you see that shit. You're like, get these guys out of here.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You don't know how to win. Like, what are we doing? Yeah. They have a one in 53. I was going to say these nuts. Gally. Oh, everywhere. The Nick Baney has been nuts. It really has been, man. And we're not even a parade day. I mean, well, by time this comes out there, it will be, but like, that parade might burn the city to the ground. Tick or tape, baby. How many people are going to have, you think? Down the valley of whatever they call it there,
Starting point is 00:53:33 they probably have a couple hundred thousand out there, at least, right? I mean, I think we had a mill. They might have, then they might be in the mills. They got to be, right? They got to be. I mean, people, even afterwards just outside that night. Going nuts. And then even went in New York. Yeah, it's going to be crazy. I'm, like, actually kind of excited to see what it looks like,
Starting point is 00:53:54 even though I hate the Knicks. I just don't understand, like, beating up school buses and stuff. No, it's lame, bro. And they were kind of me, they were really bad to Blambi. Oh, terrible. Throwing eggs at my guy. Like, that's so weak. What is that?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Oh, my God. What is that? What if you're walking back after, loss going into a beautiful hotel in New York. You feel energy. Yeah. And you just get hit in the back of head with the egg. He's trying to go lay down in your four seasons bed. And he can't hide. He's like five feet taller than everyone.
Starting point is 00:54:25 The role. Like, what is the? I saw that guy throw the banana. You see the guy throw the banana? I didn't see the banana. I only saw the eggs. You saw that? The banana came back? Someone threw back? I've seen some just, it's just been an absolute shit show and it seems so fun. I'm just a little sad that you can't wear a spurt or Jersey.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Do you see the guy wearing a David Robinson jersey like they're literally just like for the love of the game? If there was like a group of 15 people I think I'm just taking it off. Same. I'm not trying to go a 15 one. I'm not trying to get 15V1. Three freaking goose eggs on my head. No, I'm not Keanu Reeves over here
Starting point is 00:55:02 and damn John Wick. Like no. We're not. No one's coming out on the right side of a 15B1. You're done. You're getting your. Yeah. Yeah. No chance. Really, really, really weak stuff out of the New York fans. Like, somehow I expect a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:55:18 You can't put that on all the New York fans. Yeah. They're not all. It's like, it's like the whole city is turning into one of those sidewalk talks. I've had conversations with a bunch of the old New York Nick fans. Yeah. They're all like pretty cool about it.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah. Like Sam's over here just cracking up on a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle celebrating at his house. Sammy's been a real fan. Ham. Ham. The group fans been popping. It's been really cool because I remember when they got Brunson is when we started this podcast. And we're like, yeah, shut up, say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And he was all about it. Yeah, get up. He was really all about O.G. Love the, dude. Before this year. Sam has been, he's called it at every step, man. I think, I think the, I think Dolan needs to call Morel
Starting point is 00:55:57 for some upper division shit. It must. Legit, bro. He must. And how smart is Dolan looking right now? Oh, God. The sphere is killing it. Just want to chair.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I thought after firing Tibado last year. Yeah, egg on his face. I thought it wouldn't be whinby with the egg. No. Dolan said, Fuck everyone. I'm doing it my way. We get Mike Brown on his 10th team.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Unreal. Then when they won the in-season tournament, he's like, yeah, we don't hang banners for in-season tournaments. We hang them for real, we are real championships. And then he goes, I like it. Like, geez, Louise. Dolan up. Dolan is up.
Starting point is 00:56:28 After many years of taking L's. Lots of L's. Got's a L. Gave us a L. Just him in his corner. Wouldn't let us sit court side against the Celtics. God, dang. You think that band's been lifted or no?
Starting point is 00:56:40 I don't know, but I heard McAfee talking that they wouldn't let him either. I did hear that too. I think that's his thing. Doesn't let like opposing people come sit up on the garden floor. We're neutral. We're Switzerland here. No, not against them. No, we never are.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I'm just saying that so we can maybe get on courtside and then take our shirts. Take our sweatshirts off. Then we got our Celtic shirts on. I'm out there looking like Marky Mark. Yeah. I'm bossing out me. Jersey, no shirt under it. I hope I'm doing the ball pierce.
Starting point is 00:57:08 We're just doing the ballpiers walk. Yeah, we're out here. Good vibration. Coming out, that's my walkout music. Feel it, feel it. That's right. In your face, Dylan. Man.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Damn. It's a great summer of sports right now. Right. A, that was a pretty crazy weekend of sports. You got World Cup openings. You got Knicks winning it. You got Carolina winning it. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Yeah, we didn't even talk hockey. We're podcast. I mean. I smoke. dominant. Everyone was picking. It was going to game seven. Carolina said, no. I had a feeling I thought in Vegas, they're going to push it.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I saw PK talking about it. And PK, and then I saw Avery making fun of PK's outfit talking about it. BK's fits have been wild. It's giving Sean Avery some great content, though. Sean Avery, I literally just watch Sean Avery to see what he
Starting point is 00:58:06 does talk about PK's outfits. It's the best. It'll give him kudos sometimes. Sometimes he'll throw him under. He's ahead. Sean Avery knows fashion. He's going to be a. Shout out Sean Avery.
Starting point is 00:58:19 He's going to be in the Odyssey opening soon. Is he really? Another one? He's in the Odyssey. Wow. God. He may have a line. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Back to back Nolan bangers for Sean Avery? I think he's got three. Holy smokes. I don't know. Wow. And he's back in Neighborhood Watch, isn't he? Oh, full neighborhood watch. Full neighborhood watch.
Starting point is 00:58:38 We can sleep at night. We can sleep at night. That's amazing. We got to get him back on the show. We got to. Oh, I would love that. He's the best. Love Sean.
Starting point is 00:58:49 We'll have to have him bring his pointer. His guy's been talking about the pointer for five, six years. He invented the pointer on Instagram. I saw that pointer on ESPN. I saw people using an actual pointer on ESPN. They bit Avery. They're biting our guy. Come on, Avery.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Get them. Trademark that shit. No, that was awesome, man. Football season is wrong. right around the corner. Right around the corner. We got a big summer episodes coming up. It's going to be fire.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Let's go. Hey, everyone go, go to the ballpark. Get all at the ballpark. Get a Frank. Get a hot dog. Hot dog. I had one last night and stretch. They kind of got Dodger dog-ish ones at So-Fi.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Nice and thin and long. Pause. Yeah, I haven't, I haven't been to a baseball game this year yet. We got to get out there. I got to get out there. Last one I went to was probably either Fenway or me and Lily on Father's Day went to the Dodgers versus as giants. Heck, I was there.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I was with you. Yeah, yeah, you were there too, yeah. Remember a high-less? Yeah, it was insane. Same. We were UV maxing out there. The UV was like 11. We had great seats, but there was no shade.
Starting point is 00:59:51 We saw Otani. It was awesome. He didn't hit one, did he? I don't think he did. He got up to bat a couple times, though. They had a DJ out there. It was epic. LA's different.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah. It's different than when you go to the Fenway, get you a Fenway, Frank, sit up on that moster. Lily was in there full behind enemy lines, Giants out. Yeah. I don't give a crap.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I'm a Giants fan, baby. For the Bay. Yeah. I think I went to a Dodgers game when they played the socks, too. Oh, yeah. That doesn't run. That doesn't right. We're good in every hood.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Two hats that I love. Yeah. That I've never worn. Dodgers? Dodgers and Yankees. Never will. Never will. They are great hats, though.
Starting point is 01:00:35 They aesthetically are beautiful hats. Yes. Classic for a reason. They're fucking cool looking. but I have not once. Can't do it. Not once, one and one. Me neither. Never will.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I'm proud to say. Can't do it. And it sucks because like the Knicks, the Dodgers are a likable team. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They spend money on them. They got stars.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Guys you can pick out of a crowd. I'm not putting any shade of anybody here. Just saying, it's nice to have some stars to report. How are the socks doing right now? Terrible. Dog, absolute dog dude. People were mad at the Henry's. Yeah, they're mad at him.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I've heard that. There's been any bread, firing corin, the managers. They got, they did our boy tech dirty. I can't, I'm not, I'm not pleased with him right now. Did the cap dirty? Yeah, bro. Got him out of there. They got like a minor league coaching staff.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I don't love it, man. See, I don't, I don't know baseball. I don't love it. I mean, I'm not super, super plugged in these days just because I'm so bummed as a Sox fan, but we got to do something, man. We got little Anthony, though. We got a little Anthony, but still. Yeah, Anthony.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Like, give me a, you know, Give me a manny. Give me a guy I can root for. Maybe they got one right now in the farms. I hope. I'm hoping, bro. God, we need some guys. Do you want to go to the ballpark and root for, baby?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah. Not like some 4A kind of players, journeyman guy. Aligned, uh, uh, bats, all these weird analytics. I just, I'm like the old guys in Moneyball. Those old guys are like, yeah, he's got a ugly girlfriend. He's got no confident. Like, that's my kind of scouting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Not this blind, and base get out of here drive line just hit dingers get on base play some small ball there ain't a small ball
Starting point is 01:02:17 no small ball no more chicks dig the long ball but yeah that's facts right chicks dig the long launch angle like
Starting point is 01:02:23 once we get overly analyticalized you're not we don't have to be Billy mean out of here you should play some ball baby yeah I mean
Starting point is 01:02:32 I feel like that's every sport no it's absurd isn't it kind of absurd super analytical taking the fun out of stuff
Starting point is 01:02:37 yeah Players win games. What about the Jimis and Joe's? Not the X's and O's. A little bit of both. And the coaches will lose them. Yeah, facts. And the owners, they don't spend money.
Starting point is 01:02:52 All those guys. Geez. Players, they get it done. Hell of a time of the year. It is. Get out to the ballpark, folks. Get out to the ballpark. And just a quick heads up, everyone.
Starting point is 01:03:00 We're going to take a two-week break over 4th of July. The best holiday. Best. In the world. The best. Only reason is because as a football, ball player, it's the only holiday we got to celebrate. Like actually, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Because we didn't get Christmas or holiday season, Hanukkah. You really don't get Thanksgiving. Could be chopped up because of where your game is. Valentine's, Super Bowl. Valentine's Day, soupy. But, you know, 4th of July was like always the last hurrah before you had to get back to training camp. What was your best one real quick here?
Starting point is 01:03:33 Just a lake guy. Nice. Just a lake guy. Go to the family. Go to the family lake. You're laking it this year, aren't you? Laking at this year. sure. Shout out. Shout out. Not a bad spot to be for the fourth.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Shout out. Dolls on the grill. Two hundred and fifty-th year of the United States. Shout out to the U.S. of A. coming up. Let's go, baby. Happy Fourth of July to everyone. Hot dogs, burgers, American flags, fireworks, boats, water, beers. All the best. All the best. All the best. Board shorts. Flip-flops. And we'll be back. We're going to be back July 14th with brand new episodes. And we got some good. episodes coming up. Let's go, guys. Football seasons are on the corner.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Baseball season, World Cup. Got a lot to be thankful for this summer. And baseball. Yep. And baseball. We'll be right back after this quick break. You end up hell with weekend gold tickets to Lassau Montreal. Thomas Rhett.
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Starting point is 01:06:14 What are they? The Hurricanes. and the stall borough. Man. Jared Stahl, whatever, whichever star it was. These hockey teams, they're all from the South now. Yeah, no. All the South ones are winning them.
Starting point is 01:06:24 It doesn't really feel right. Florida's been like owning it. Then Vegas. Can we give the Canadians a win? We gotta get, come on. Come on. Maple Lee, somebody. And this is me and the Bruins.
Starting point is 01:06:34 How about just the Bruins? Come on. It's a northern team. A team where people actually play hockey is your Canadian team. Yankee team above Macy Dixon line. Anything above the Macy Dixon line. We actually actually play.
Starting point is 01:06:45 play hockey. And to the right of the Mississippi. That's all I'm asking for. Nothing crazy. Come on. There's puck heads. That's our one request. Yeah. Oh, man. That was awesome. Well, that was fun. Always fun talking. OTAs and mini camp, the World Cup, everything.
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