Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Patriots Beat the Falcons and NFL Week 9 Reactions

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

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Rob, what a week. Week 9's in the books. Joel, that was crazy, dude. You ready to get into it? Before we jump in, if everyone's loving these reaction videos, drop a like. give us a comment tell us what we can do better and we'll go from there

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all right Jules you ready to break down week nine let's do it let's start it off with an easy one we gotta start it off with the Pat's take right Pat's eke out a close one

what are your first stop My first thoughts are, you know, a win is a win, no doubt about that. You'll take any win in the NFL. It's so hard to get a win. It doesn't matter if you're playing a not so good team. And it's just even harder to win versus a good team. The Atlanta Falcons, that's who they face. That's who their opponent was.

You actually never know what you're going to get with the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, they're all over the place. They got so much skill on the offensive side of the ball. They got a pretty, pretty solid defense. but their offense is so up and down. And they got guys that are all first rounders from the tight end to the wide receiver, to the quarterback, to the running back. But you don't know what they're going to put out on the field.

You don't know what product you're going to get. And it seemed like they got the product of Drake London here, this game, who just showed that his freak athleticism can take over a game at any time. But it's such a solid win for the Patriots. Again, I don't care how they want it. Yeah, the Atlanta Falcons miss an extra point. But a win is a win. And it was a very solid win as well.

You know, and they started hot. The Patriots started hot. Usually they close the game in the third, fourth quarter, while they closed the game because they started hot this time. Yeah. It was a good experience to go through. Look, they turned the ball over two times. They're terrible.

You know, I don't think they're very well, did very well in third down. But made plays when the team needed plays to be made. they've been playing at a high level for five weeks coming into this game. You know, this is their sixth game in this winning streak. That's hard to sustain, especially as a new unit together. It's hard to sustain that level. I mean, we had shitty games. Tom had a shitty game every once in a while.

I had a shitty game. You know, guys just, you know, the ebbs and flows of a season. That's how it goes. And for a shitty game, Drake may still, you know, he had the turnover. the fumble, he had the pick, but he also had, you know, elite situational runs. He had two touchdown passes. The offense still feels rhythmic, even though they slowed down in the second half, that's going to be expected.

Like you said, Robbie, this Atlanta Falcons team, they're so fucking dangerous because you don't know what you're going to get on the field. You know, they got Bejohn Robinson, which the Patriots bottled up, bottled them up. And the Patriots had a great plan on third down. on defense. I think they went one for, you know, they only had one for nine. The Falcons, you know,

a lot of those, those, their points came from the mistakes the Patriots made. So, look, a win in the NFL is a freaking win. An ugly win is better than a pretty loss. I used to say that all the time. Anytime you can go into the next week

with, with the amount of examples they have to coach up and still, have a win in the category. That's going to be great for their, their development as a team. Big time. And what's worrying about the Patriots is just protecting.

Drake May. I mean, what? He was sacked by Miles Garrett last, what, last week five times. I'm not sure how many sacks they had as a team, the Cleveland Browns,

but Miles Garrett alone had five sacks. And now he was sacked seven times, you know, versus Atlanta Falcons. So that's a minimum of 12 sacks the last two games. I mean, that could definitely catch up in the future if you keep letting Drake May get sacked like that. And it may hurt his confidence. I mean, so far it hasn't.

That's what's making him so incredible. Even getting set. He gets back up. And exactly, you know, you need to protect him because for his confidence. And also, you got to keep him clean. You don't want your quarterback banged up, possibly, you know, falling to the ground and not being able to protect himself because he doesn't see a defender coming. So then, you know, he injures a limb or a bend's back of finger, whatever. it is and that can throw off your whole routine of throwing the boss. So protect Drake May.

They just got to figure out the offensive line with protections in the past game big time. Yeah. And that's a team thing. You know, because some of the sacks could be coming from Drake. Some of the sacks could be coming from the lot. You know what I mean? That's such a team. It could be coming from the offensive line. It's not just the cool. Yeah. It could be the coaching there, the back coaching. There's so many different variables. You're right about that. They got to tighten it up. They got to tighten it up. Come together as a team. Figure out why he's getting sacks so much. Yes, Jules, that is so true. It's when you're getting sacks, you know, when your quarterback's in sack, that's a great point you just made, brother,

is that it's a team thing in that category most of the time. It's an offensive unit, you know, because it could be confidence in, you know, the first sack could be on the line. The second sack could be on the quarterback who's messed up mentally because of the first sack and he steps wrong direction. And then he gets sacked on that. The third time, the hot, you know, the hot route didn't break. So the quarterback's sitting there and he gets, you know what I was on the wide receiver. Yeah. Yeah, you know, so many factors. But whatever that is, they got to turn.

They got to tighten it up because, you know, they're getting some freaking juice right now. Winning is contagious. The more you win, the more, you know, you start to feel it. You start to, you start to enjoy the preparation. You start to go into practice excited, you know, early in our career when we were getting on those teams, 13, 14, we're, you know, 12, 11, when you start getting in that rhythm, that moment, the rhythm of prep.

enjoying. All right. We had some fuck-ups here. Let's go fix them. All right. All right. Now we got some new wrinkles that we're going to put in these next three, four weeks. This is a time of the year where it starts to fucking separate the men from the boys. And so I'm looking forward to seeing how they do going into it. All right. How about Cardi B? One out. Cardi B. She was looking fire next to RKK. The one thing about RKK, I can't believe he didn't whip out any dance moves. The last time I saw RKK, unless if I missed the dance, it was the last time I saw him, he was on stage with Cardi B. And she got RKK out in that rhythm. She brought the young buck out in him.

And he was doing some moves on stage shows. I was hoping to see RKK break it down a little bit. But Cardi B with that stanky dance move, that shit is funny, yo, like really, really funny. That was a well-played move. I bet the New England crowd ate that up big time. Oh, there you see. That was the last time I saw him. Yeah, breaking it down.

I love when our KK goes out there and acts like a young buck like he's wilding out like back in the day. Like we were at Jules when we were in our 20s and, you know, young 30s, all that good stuff. Age ain't nothing but a number at RKK. He's still living young, baby. Let's move on, Robbie. Let's move on. Good week for the Pats. It's big week.

Who do they have this week? the Buccaneers. That's a big. That's a big game. Buccaneers off a buy. Buccaneers off a buy getting healthy. Buccaneers off a buy and a loss, I think. They lost last.

You know what I mean? So like, hey, this is going to be a tough test. Buccaneers off a buy, off a loss in Tampa with warm weather. Oh, oh, wait, Jules. Is this the Grank Bull? Pats versus Bucks. Hey, I'm just going to stay out of this one. No predictions coming from me.

Jules, I'm going to let you do all that. I'm just going to sit back, relax, and just hope for a great football game that I can enjoy. Wait, wait, wait. Last week, it was like fucking blowout central, right? Everyone's like the favors, this, NFL's broke, sucks. Well, the underdogs came through this week. How about the underdog?

They sure did. They had their day today. I mean, we had the Steelers upsetting the Indianapolis Colts, but I don't really look at that as an upset, even though it is an upset. I mean, we got the Minnesota Vikings over the Detroit Lions, and yes, I look at that one. That's an upset because the Detroit Lions have been playing a lot,

you know, putting a product on the field that's been a lot higher than the Minnesota Vikings all year. So I do consider that an upset. And then you got the Panthers. This is the biggest upset of the week by far, you know, upsetting the green. Bay Packers. And let's start with the Pittsburgh Steelers versus

Indianapolis Coast. I mean, I didn't really see this one coming, but at the same time, I'm not surprised because the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, have what they need in order to compete against any team in the NFL. Obviously, Aaron Rogers is playing at a high level. I really like what he's doing in his 40s.

He's proving that, you know, he's not the reason why the Steelers are losing games. He's actually the reason why the Steelers are winning games and putting them in situations. to win games every single week. It's been their defense that has been iffy, you know, and their special teams. It hasn't been playing great.

And they're known for their defense. And finally, they put it all together, all three phases of the game, you know, defense, special teams and offense. And that's what makes the Pittsburgh Steelers scary is when they come together as a team and play together like that as a team. And that's why I'm not surprised because we've been waiting for their defense to to step up. And they finally did on the biggest stage versus the hot in the day.

Indianapolis Colch. It kind of put them back on earth these Colts, which a lot of people like to see in the NFL because, you know, everyone's not Colts fans. And, you know, it kind of brings the table of teams, you know, being able to vie for winning their division because the Colch lost. Now, everyone's still kind of even, you know, everything's up for grabs still with these underdogs beating, you know, these teams that we're not supposed to lose. Yeah. I think this is a case of Colts. coming back down to earth and the Steelers richest defense in the world get in six takeaways playing the way that we we really we were really all expecting them play this way right we're been waiting actually we've been expecting them to play this way since the beginning I'm telling you my Pittsburgh Steelers friends because I went to high school my senior year in Pittsburgh Jewels obviously you know that and I still got friends there and I'm talking I'm talking like they've been flipping out about their defense.

not playing well. Like they're furious. Like they're so proud of Aaron Rogers in the offense. And they're like our effing defense is letting us down this year. And now that they just dominated last week, they're so proud of what the Steelers D just did. And the six turnovers kind of made up, you know, for the whole season. If they can continue that from here on out,

they're going to be a hot team. They're going to be a tough team to beat. 1,000%. This was great for their team to see. They needed to see this as a team. Because, you know, they're built through their defense. That's where all the money's at. And you've got to see your dividends on your investment.

And, you know, it was one of those T.J. Watts, you know, sack fumble games. They had, I like that Wilson kid, the safety. He had a couple big plays where he batted the ball. They intercepted. You know, and the ability to, this was the first time they stopped the run. They stopped the run against the best run team. Like, they haven't been able to stop the run all year long. and then out of nowhere,

they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they held,

it was Jonathan Taylor had 53 yards, something like that. Like, that's how you beat the Colts. You know, and the offense made enough plays and didn't make,

you know, a bunch of mistakes. I like that big ass tight end. Number 80, Washington. Is it Washington? He's like five, oh, darn out of Washington.

Oh my gosh, 300 pounds, 6, 7, I think possibly six, eight, man. I like, I love big human beings that are athletic that can go out there and make plays on the field. And Darnow, Washington is finding a niche. He's finding a role in the Pittsburgh Steelers offense. And I'm getting impressed more and more on a weekly basis because I feel like he can

move better, like as his years go on, as he plays more in the NFL, like his athleticism and his movement and his fluidiness is, is like getting better on a continuous basis. I mean, his rookie year, He's never, he's never, he's never covered. Like Aaron, the guy was traping him and Aaron just throws it where like in his belly. And like Aaron, that guy is never covered. And Aaron Rogers could put the ball in his little bread box. And the guy's so hard to take down. I mean, I think that's going to be fun.

They got to continue to get Warren going in the run game. But that was, I think that was a, that was an awesome win for the Steelers. They needed that. And, and I, I anticipate, I anticipate, Indianapolis isn't done. They're going to, they're going to come back. And, you know, Shane Steichen, he's had that offense rolling. The defense has been playing well.

So that was a great game. The Vikings beating Detroit was insane to me. I thought that was going to be a statement game for Detroit. And I really underestimated J.J. McCarthy. He played above and beyond where I thought he would play because I was explaining. before the game. He got hurt in week two as a first year player. Now, he's been gone for five weeks. He hasn't been able to practice it with live bullets.

And his competition has been getting refined each week. So he comes back to midseason form and he's playing against guys that are like, it's not the same when you come back from injury, when you're out. Like it takes you a little. And he played his balls off. I mean, he had some mistakes. He missed some throws, but he also made a bunch of big plays, especially on the four-minute driver. They had to get the first down and he hits Naler.

He had the big touchdown run. He made plays when his team needed it. He has a lot of things to tighten up, but who better to do that with than Kevin O'Connell? If anyone can get anything out of a quarterback, It's Kevin O'Connell. He's proving it time in and time again. He has, and I have not been high on J.J. McCarthy, you know, ever since he got into the NFL.

But there's one thing that J.J. McCarthy, he just proved to me that he has, which is the number one trait that you want in the NFL, is he has grit and he has heart. This guy wants to win football games. Jackson Dardy and him are in the same category. He's the best, you know, quarterback in the NFL with tangibles. But when you got that heart and you got that desire to be the best that you can possibly be and willing to win the game, whatever it takes, you know, he won a national championship at Michigan, you know, that just shows he has whatever it takes, you know. And with his style of play, I didn't really think it was going to transfer, you know, to the NFL.

But when you have heart and you have grit like that, that's going to transfer to any phase in life. So J.J. McCarthy. Don't be okay. Don't be proud of them yet. I'm not. I'm saying. Hey, Joel, I didn't say the tangibles were there.

I'm just saying so far what I've seen in his wins, he has heart. He has heart. Mental toughness and heart. He's got that. I still can't believe they pull off that win. That's that way. I mean, Detroit Lions.

How about also Brian Flores? Flores and, you know, they haven't been able to stop. the run. They've been getting ran all over. And, you know, they go in and they stop the Detroit Lions, which everyone in the world probably would say that they have a top five run game with the two-headed monster Gibb Montgomery. They got stuffed. Okay. Golf was off the spot all day. Golf loves the spot. What's the spot? The spot is seven yards behind the center. that's where those pocket quarterbacks love to live

can't have any pressure up the middle of the pocket so they can sit and scan the field like Tom Brady did for 23 or whatever 28 years like they got a bunch of pressure on them on golf and it made them uncomfortable and they didn't have a rhythm that were so accustomed to seeing the Detroit Lions have they had no rhythm on offense

and we got the Vikings ravings next week And if the Vikings, you know, want to have any chance versus Ravens, they got to stop the run just like they did versus the Detroit Lions. They got to stop Derek Henry. They got to stuff on. They got to find a game plan. They got to stop Lamar as well from running the ball. And with Brian Flores, I wouldn't be surprised if they figured out a formula to put them in the situation throughout the game in order to stop them. Well, I do, you know, I don't want to go too far in the future.

but what's that jewell i mean what's the future looking like the the ravens have always struggled with blitz zero and like a lot of those when you tighten down play tight man coverage and you fucking pressure the hell out of you've been saying that for a while jules i'm just saying who who loves and lives and dies on it brian flores from brooklyn brian flores from brooklyn he loves mcblitzy he loves the everyone at the line of scrimmage drop out, bring them all, play the head game, the mind game. Like, B-Flo loves that stuff and they'll have exotic stuff. So that's going to be an exciting game to watch next week because, like,

you don't know what you're going to, you don't know with the Ravens. They're kind of in that world right now where they're floating. Are they good? They just beat up on a okay team, but are they not? Because they've been losing a lot. Is the defense back? Aaron Jones, for the Vikings also had a big, game. He hasn't been around and that

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Robbie, last underdog. Yeah, we got the, yeah, it was, it was a, you know,

Carolina Panthers. I was never going to suspect this, the Carolina Panthers to, to beat the Green Bay Packers. Here's my question. What was the point of trading? and having that splashy trade for Micah Parsons just to lose to the Panthers. Can you explain that to me,

I'll tell you, Mike, in their defense. Wild. In their defense, there's still a young team, which I feel like we've been saying that for the last five years. We've been saying that for two, three, four years now. The Oklahoma City Thunder, the NBA team. Everyone's been saying, oh, oh, SGA, young buck. They just want a super, you know, chat, yeah, chat home. Grim, Young Buck, all that.

Well, they were saying that two years ago, and then it was, okay, they can't say that anymore. And now they won a championship. You know, the Green Bay Packers are like the same as, you know, same age. Well, they got to win the Super Bowl. They're the same. Yeah, to the Oklahoma City Thunder. But they're not, they're not playing.

Like, they've been together too long now. They've been, this team has been together two, three years now. Like, they should be putting it together and know how to win football games together. The chemistry kind of still isn't there all the way. In their defense, the Panthers aren't that bad. They're not. Panthers are four and three right now, or four and four?

I think five and four. The Panthers aren't that bad right now. Okay, like Dowdell has been running and toting that thing. The Panthers are right now like the Atlanta Falcons. You still don't know what you're going to get out of them, you know? I don't know. I think they play next week,

I think, or in two weeks. I think the Panthers are, I think they're better than the Atlanta Falcons. How did it? I don't know. They shouldn't. What was the formula too?

What was the formula? How did the Panthers even beat the Pack? They couldn't get the run game going. That's not just on Micah, though. That's everyone. That's on everyone. Nah, I think they couldn't stop the run. Jordan Love, man. He'd be throwing it up up. He has a case of the Screwets.

You know what that is? I like to call it the fuckets. You're like, fuck it. let's just throw it. Fuck it. He threw it into a team meeting a few times, bro. He threw it into a team meeting a few times. We highlighted it in the halftime show at Fox.

And then he went through an interception in the second half and like the same kind of thing. Like we can't be doing that. You can't just have the case of fuck it. Nothing's going on. Fuck it. We can't be doing that. You know, and you know, I wanted to give you.

I wanted to give you your flowers. You call out Tucker Kraft last week on National Tide Ends Day, and it fucking, he flourishes, has a fucking awesome game. And now, you know, that's another thing about this game.

They lose Tucker Kraft for the rest of the game. Yeah, that hurts to see him go down. I think he might be out, you know, for, for rest of the year. They said possible ACO.

They still have a team. They still have Musgrave. They still have Josh Jacobs. They still got Dobbs, Wicks, Watson, golden. Gotta get Golden going. He's been a, you know, a first-round draft pick.

They got to get him going. I think he got banged up in the game. They got to get, you know, the defense has to start playing the way they want, the way they can. But the Packers, they do this a lot. They play with their food when they, when they're eating, you know, when they're eating, they play with their food. I talked about that on the show as well. Like, they play down to people's level. They get bored.

You know what I mean? You can't have that. They lose to the Browns where they're eight and a half points favorites. They lose to the Carolina Panthers. They're 13.5 point favorites. You can't do that. And I understand you're going to throw eggs out there and you're going to throw a bad game out there every once in all.

We all do it. We've all had it. But it can't be collectively. It can't be the whole team. You know what I mean? You got to have someone to dig you out of that. So young team. that we've been saying young forever

needs to learn from this and not let this happen. They got a tough stretch coming, I think. It's always going to be a tough stretch for them in that division. I mean, with the Minnesota Vikings, Chicago Bears, I mean, look what they can do at any given time. You got the Detroit Lions and then the Green Bay Packers. I mean, that's going to be a tough, you know,

for the rest of the year just being in that division. Yeah. Just even playing just division games. So they got to pick it up. You said it best, Jules. They got to learn from it. And they got to have a guy that steps up, you know, in those situations to not make sure they lose games like the game. You hope that's your quarterback usually.

There's plenty of times when we were all kind of in fucking la la land playing against, you know, a team that's not very good or a team that you're better than. And, you know, the quarterback, Brady comes up there and fucking yells at you and get your fucking head out of your ass. let's go. You know what I mean? You need someone like that who's going to get some juice or it may not even be talking. It may just be making a fucking play. Is love capable of being that guy? Not it's you could be that guy different ways. He could be capable of doing it by hitting a 16 yard in cut in third and eight and progressing through the offense instead of fuck it and throw it up. Yes. Great. You know, that's how you, you know what I mean?

So, and he'll learn. He'll learn. He's 27 years old. He's young. He's in his third, four, whatever, third year. He got to get going though because they got talent. Stop. They're not young anymore.

That's, that's excuse is over. You like those, did you like those unies? I liked them. A lot of people are giving them shit. I thought they were kind of tight. I love throwback unis. You know, I really do. It kind of makes the feel of the game like it's a true football game again.

I mean, it's like a hard nose, you know, game that's going down because back in the day football was just hard knows anything went and that's kind of the feel that those uniforms bring out i liked them i know a lot of people hated them and all right i think that like fuck it that's like some that's like the shit you see in the movies with like george cluny that old ass movie you know what i mean i'm a fan where's that old football movie george cluny was in where you had the leather helmet and shit like that's the history of the game it's kind of tight week nine you know what that means injury season jesus man hey injuries. It's the worst part of the game. Yeah, the worst part of the game, but it's prior of the game like no other game. We already talked about Tucker Kraft. I mean, I love the way Tucker Kraft plays. You know, I really do. He's a complete tight end. That's going to be a huge loss for the Packers. But there was also so many other injuries. Who's the biggest one to you? The NFL. The biggest one I was saying. What's the one that sticks out? Jaden Daniels. I mean, that dislocation, you know, in his elbow in the blowout loss to Seattle. I mean, that one's stung. I mean, that one's stunk.

to even just look at. I mean, just the way his kind of elbow bent back. It was gruesome. He was running too much in that game. They didn't have enough. They didn't have enough weapons. They had nothing going on offense.

And he felt desperate to make a play, I felt all games. We've been, everyone's been saying that. Basically, every analyst, anyone that breaks down football, watches football,

everyone's been saying, Jaden Daniels has been running the ball too much since his rookie year. And he doesn't protect himself enough. It's not like he's, you know, Josh Allen, you know, that looks like a tight end and knocking out defenders and defenders bouncing off. Just Jaden Daniels needs to get down more often and faster and not run the ball as much either. I mean, you got to protect him. He was in a good pocket for a while last year where he would run, take off and not get tackled and get out of bounds.

I remember like five or six times he'd juke a guy out of bounds and like dapped the guy up because the guy knew he got. jude by jaden Daniels. I remember that a lot last year. You just, when that, the rhythm's gone when you don't have McLaurin out there. You're not getting any real big plays made by anyone else. You know what I mean? So then it becomes a burden on him to try to run even more. And he's not all there with the hamstring that he got hurt on a sack two weeks, three weeks ago. So like, your body's already compensating this. You know, it's just, not it hasn't looked good right this year for the commanders with this injury thing going and at top of it Luke McCaffrey one of his teammates wide receiver went out with a broken collarbone as well

that doesn't help out I mean the commanders are decimated in in ways on the offensive side of the ball and you're right when jaden daniels doesn't have his guys he probably feels like as a young young quarterback that he has to you know put all the weight on his back and on his shoulders and take over. I love seeing that kid play the game of football. I love the way that he does play. But when you're just that size and you have a history of being injured, it's hard. We want to see him stay healthy. That's going to be a tough blow for the commanders. And it's going to be a tough rest of the season for them. I think the biggest one for me, not the biggest. They're all fucking big. They're all big.

They are all injuries. All injuries are tough. Joe Alt is going to be very crucial Gets the ankle again I think he has to get a quick little Fixer up for surgery Like a scope to put that tighten that thing down I think it'll be out five weeks That high ankle sprain

They look like a completely different team When they have Joel And you saw it once he went out Run game gone Herbert sacked Herbert hit Herbert got a take over Now Herbert

Herbert he's like Jaden Daniels where he feels like he has to take over, but he's six foot six, 235 pounds. And he's going to get hurt if he continues this. Because he's got, it's just too much. The worst thing for a body is tackles.

The more tackles you get, the more hurt you get. It's just, that's how this game is. It's 100%, you know, and you got to try to not take hits. And it's hard because they're winning ball games. And he's doing what he has to do to win the ball games.

but those things add up, man. They add up. And I think Joe Alt being hurt, sideline, it's going to make that team go back to the makeshift what they've been doing the last few weeks to get these wins where, you know, Herbert's got to run around and be Superman, He-Man, or whatever Harbaugh wants to call him.

You know, Achilles, the Achilles dude was like yoked. And then all of a sudden you hit that heel. What was it, Achilles? Achilles. And you hit that heel. he's a he's a biggest strongest dude ever and he's done no you know it doesn't matter how it just i just get scared i see all the beautiful you know dating madison beer you know we're going to the lakers game we're going to the dodgers game we're going to the halloween party i love it i love it

you just can't get him hit yes let's protect him let's protect him at all costs Hollywood Herbert. You got to love that name. Hollywood Herbert. The announcers in Hollywood Herbert. There he goes, scrambling out. Hollywood Herbert chucks it down deep. Oh, touchdown McCunky.

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My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small town.

Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe. subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Isman.

We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The Big Short Story, what it means when people start betting against the market, and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, is as relevant today as it's ever been, offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics.

Get the big short now at Pushkin.fm.fm. slash audiobooks or wherever audiobooks are sold. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray.

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I point in the... the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. And he got down and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like,

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Babe. kicking has been very far this year. 68-yard record-breaking field goal by Jaguars kicker Cam Little out in Vegas, which Desert Air is pretty pressured air, I feel. Yeah, I think there's, I'm not 100% sure what the rule change was in the NFL. New old change. You get to have the ball.

Kickers, yeah, kickers are allowed to, you know, furnish the ball, how they wanted to be, like, way prior to the game. So it's allowing these kickers to absolutely boot the ball when kicking a field goal and, like, absolutely boot it. I mean, there has been just records just being set all over the place for these kickers. And then we have Cam Little, who drilled a 68-yarder just before halftime to get the Jags on the board. And he hit a 70-yarder in preseason as well.

And this was the longest. field goal ever made in history was a 70 yarder, but now the 68 yard is the longest regular season field goal ever made. Cam Little has a gigantic leg, not a little leg, Jules, a gigantic leg. That's all I know. He can boot that damn ball. Yeah, man, I bet you all the old kickers are like probably kind of pissed about this. So what exactly is this rule change that's allowing these kickers to be able to use the same balls. I think they get to use the same balls all year. And like there's no like they get to use the kicking balls and break them in.

It used to be you only get an hour before the game with brand new balls to have your kick, your ball boys get the balls and get them ready and blow them. You know, you blow them up. You put them in the dryer. You put the mud on them. You put the grass on them. They try to work them out to make them beat up to make that leather nice and soft.

So when they hit it, it balloons it, the ball and it gives it a bigger surface. They like the fat ball. So there's more sweet spot to kick. You get them skinny, you know, the skinny balls right out the box. Those are hard and there's less, less area to kick it, like a sweet spot area. So it's like they're making like a, it's almost like a torpedo bat. Is it torpedo bat back? Is it still there?

people still using it they stop you all right yeah it's kind of like that you get bigger sweet spot almost i think a lot of balls guy well i i know this teams they all get their kicking balls at the beginning of the year now and they can condition and prep them as much as they want like you said in in order in order to be able to kick it that fire now yeah because they're so broken in like you said instead of prior where it was like you get a brand new ball and it was still so firm and it didn't really have that cushion, you know, on the ball and it wasn't broken in so it couldn't go as far. Do you think this is good for the game of football that all these kickers are drilling these field goals from this far now or you think it's bad for the game?

I don't know if it's good or bad yet, but it's definitely changing the strategy. Too soon. Exactly. It's changing the strategy, especially with the new dynamic kickoff. Guys are at the 40 if you get a touchback or, you know, or a 35. and you get a two first down in your field goal range. Yeah, exactly. So like it's too soon to determine if this is good for the game of football or bad for the game of football. Because imagine like you just went down, you're down by, you know, six points and you get the ball on your own 10. You drive 90 yards down the field.

There was five minutes left in the game. And now there's 45 seconds left on the clock. You're up by one because you went down and you had that 90 yard touchdown drive. Well, now the team gets it back. That's down by one. and they just have to go 20 yards only or something, 20, 15 yards, you know, because they had two timeouts left with 45 seconds.

And then they can kick a 70-frikin yard field goal and win the game after that team just worked their butt off to go 90 yards to. Still got to execute. I know, but our fans are going to like that, you know, is that a hurt or hurting games, PATs. So. Yes.

All right. All right. I was just putting a scenario out there. Yeah, I get it. I get it. it's we'll see. I mean, fantasy people like more numbers.

You're getting more numbers. Will he get drug tested today? Probably. Yeah. Remember Pat McAfee back in the day, he would like make a tackle, you know, for the Colts or have an amazing point.

And then the next day he'd be drug testing. He posted all over to place like what? Yeah. Punner is not allowed to make big hits and big tackles. Like what's going on here? So little probably, you know, expect a drug test at your locker today, buddy.

Definitely. Absolutely. How about this crazy Bears bangles game? I feel terrible for the Bengals. I really do feel terrible for them. I feel good for the Chicago Bears too, though. Yeah, great for them. Another great win for them. They got to stack up as many wins that they can possibly stack up. But like Joe Flacco has been becoming my favorite quarterback in the NFL this year, hands down. You know, like his excitement level, his excitement level is through the absolute roof. Like I love what he's doing. I mean, he threw for 470 yards, four touchdowns. In the games prior to that, the Thursday night game versus the Pittsburgh Steelers,

just how much he's bringing to the game of football, you know, in the 40s is just incredible. And his comments as well, I really loved what he said is like something about being the only guy at the bar and sitting at the bar and having a drink and just watching the game is, is one of the greatest pleasures. It was along those lines, you know, you got to respect Joe Flackle what he's doing. And remember, remember, he has a Super Bowl ring as well with the Baltimore Ravens back in it back in the day. He brought the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs. I mean, Flax's done some, I think Flax's a Hall of Famer. Flack does a Hall of Famer. I think so as well.

Like, like, definitely. Like, true that. And Caleb, you know, he had a pretty good game, 20 for 34. I would say Kyle Menaghi, how do you say his name? Running back, seventh rounder. Had a breakout game.

He went to Rutgers, had 176 yards. I really feel bad for the players of the Bengals. This isn't their fault. This is the upper. This is how the team's built. Okay, I mean, when you got all your money in offense, you're not going to have anyone on defense. and their little bang up on defense as well.

And what do you think about guys calling out the defense right in the post game, the post game? You see that? No, I didn't see it. So what? I don't want to say his name, but. Offensive players called out the defensive players. Yeah, he says they can't get one stop or something like at the media,

which, you know, I mean, if it's a true. he's a truth, man. Yeah. I mean, if it's a truth, it's a truth. I mean, it's not like he's making anything up here or, or. Yeah, but it's not something. It's not his teammates fault that they're not, they don't have that many playmakers.

They don't have, you know, and you know that those guys are probably working their ass off. I mean, unless they're not working their ass off at practice, but there you go. If you're, you're on the offensive side of the ball,

you're putting up points like that. The defense is struggling. They're allowing touchdowns every single play. And you're calling them out. You're calling them out. I would say in this situation, the only way I would raise my voice is if those defensive players are showing up the practice on a weekly basis and showing that they give no Fs given.

Like they're not working hard. They're not trying to get better as players. When you got guys that are working hard, working their ass off, trying to get better as players, you don't really call them out like that at all. And you encourage them more and more because eventually they're going to click that. And then they're going to click. But you got guys that are slacking, half-assing. hell yeah you call those bitch asses out yeah i mean that's the only but i but we don't know the

situation are they working on in practice or not you know i thought jemar chase actually handled her right at the podium he goes you know that's out of my lane i'm gonna stay in my lane and that there was a cut out of hearing him coming off the field saying like we need one stop like he didn't know he was on camera i i think that's completely different than when you're at your locker or when you're, you just lose the game, the clock hit zero and you go, fuck, we can't get a goddamn stop. That's different than when you're telling everyone, I think, you know, I think those are two different ways of handling it.

Now, you don't want to be, you don't want to be caught saying, can we get one fucking stop? Because, you know, like I said, you don't know. If that's on a hot mic, that's on a hot mic, if that's on a hot mic, mic, that's BS. Yeah, hot mic, mic, yeah, that's BS. You can't blame them at all. Mike, you know, that is what it is. Like, that shouldn't even be allowed that, you know, the hot mic picking that up. You're in game time.

The emotions are flying. But what about Coast and Loveland with the breakout game, six receptions, 118 yards, two touchdowns? He's just a rookie tight end. He made the game winning touchdown to seal the deal. What was that? 58 yard catch like an in route, broke a couple tackles, brought it to the house, you know, at the crazy ending of this Bears Cincinnati game.

And Coast and Loveland, like, he really hasn't been. the way that he's been supposed to be producing as a top 10 pick at the tight-end position. So it's great to see him do what, you know, what he can possibly do. That can boost his confidence throughout the future. And that can actually give, you know, Caleb Williams another weapon that he can rely on from here on out. So we'll see what he does with this game and if he can keep stacking it from here. But if you look at the box score, this was a, this is how Ben Johnson wants his team to probably look. look they had to throw it a bunch

and they only threw it 34 times they had to throw it a bunch and they only had to throw it 34 times. How many rush yards did they have? 175 by the rookie. Doesn't that look like the box score? That looks like a box score of a Lions team.

Let's get the run game going. Have Caleb do his two or three, four, five, six plays of craziness where it'll help you like the long run to get before, the long run right before hitting Loveland for the touchdown in that last drive. Like let him do that.

But like I thought it was, you know, Ben Johnson's got good things going for this team. These are the games they usually lose. And they've won a few of those. Yeah, they're rolling right now. The Bears, they're rolling compared to last year. And they're still like inconsistent as hell. Right direction. Yes.

They're still inconsistent as hell. But they're winning games. And that's fucking. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on. you. Don't let them down. Unlock elite gaming tech at Lenovo.com. Dominate every match with next level speed, seamless streaming, and performance that won't quit. Push your gameplay beyond performance with Intel core ultra processors for the next era of gaming. Upgrade to smooth high quality streaming with Intel Wi-Fi 6E and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking. Win the tech

search. Power up at Lenovo.com. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling.

I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happen to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them,

the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception.

It was like feeding the monster, said Isman. We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important. had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The Big Short Story, what it means when people start betting against the market, and who

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What about Josh Allen, dominating the freaking Kansas City Chiefs once again in the regular season. So we're not surprised here. But I am surprised kind of that the Kansas City Chiefs, you know, weren't as competitive in that game as I thought they were going to be. I was telling my friends, you know, and people that follow football.

Like, I think the Chiefs are the best team in football right now after the last three weeks once Rushdie Rice came back, just the way they've been playing, clicking, you know, Patrick Mahomes being able to spread the ball around. You know, I thought the offense, you know, they were fine. They were back to a to a high level of play. And then the Buffalo bill was Sunday night, not Sunday night football. It felt like a Sunday night football game because the clocks, you know, got turned back.

And it was dark out basically the whole game. And it was in Buffalo. So the atmosphere was through the roof. But you know, like a night game? Yeah. Yes. And so huge for the Buffalo bills, you know, to win that game. It moved Josh Allen to five and one all time against Patrick Mahomes in the regular season.

But it's more about can he beat him in the playoffs. Yeah. This is more. I think this is how the bills want to play the game. Okay. It is. Chiefs couldn't get Kareem Hunt going. Pacheco was out.

They couldn't get anything manufactured in the run game. The Chiefs, I think, were pretty bad on third down, three for 13. Okay, they were two for three on on fourth down. So that's five for 13, whatever. And they were two for three in the red area. Okay. You can't run it against the cheat or the bills. You're not going to win.

That team is designed to play against the pass with a bunch of their safeties. Their defense got after Patrick Mahomes for the first time. Their defense played well. The defense of the bills played pretty well. And and Patrick Mohms. that his worst game of the year. Okay. That pick late is not

Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Great players have bad games every once in a while too. Don't you dare for a second think the Chiefs are gone because the next time, the next time these teams meet, they're going to be completely different fucking teams. Yes. They're going to be completely different teams. The Chiefs are not

done. And the Chiefs will learn from this. The Chiefs needed this because we were all talking so highly with them, getting Rishi Rice back. This could be a good thing. for them. I don't think it's a good thing for the standings and all that stuff, but they're going to be in the dance. They're going to be in the dance. Don't motherfuckers are Freddie Cougar.

100% they're going to be in the dance, Jules. There's no doubt about that. They might not win their division though this year. Denver, you know, with that six game win streak that they're going on and the charges, they're competitive. They might give them another loss or two. And, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs might not take

the division, but they're going to be in the dance, like you said. They're going to be competing that's all it matters. season. It is all. And then anything can happen. And then anything can happen. But this was great for the bills to get back on track from a few weeks ago.

And it's the last year being at that stadium for Buffalo. So they got to send these fans away with as many wins as possible at home this year. And they couldn't have lost to the Patriots and the chiefs in fucking old orchard for the last time. Primetime games. They could not. No. You know, so this was like destiny game. This is destiny game.

Josh Allen, send the stadium off one more time kicking the chief's butt in it. You know, in regular season, of course, regular season. But, you know, that was, that was a great game, though. That's always a lights out game to watch. But, you know, my homes had a couple miss laps that that four minute pick in the fourth, where he threw it up. You know, he got a little desperate. He was starting to feel the heat a little.

He was getting hit a bunch. Joey Bose at a sack. You're getting pressure without Ed Oliver. Defense was playing good. Like, that was a fun game. And I can't wait to see him play again. Really fun game. If you want to beat the Chiefs, Jules, you got to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field.

You got to be able to run the ball and run the clock down and keep him off the field because the guy is, you know, a magician out there. Yes, it wasn't his best game of his career, but he's going to be back like no other. But what about let's go from Buffalo all the way across the country to Seattle real quick. What about Sam Darnold? An incredible two years he has had last year with the Minnesota Vikings and now with the Seattle Seattle. He was 13 for 13 in the first half for over 200 yards and four touchdowns. And that's all they needed.

Like they didn't even need it around the second half and perform. You're there running out the clock from the first second to clock, you know, ticked in the third quarter. I mean, tip your hat to Sam Darno for what he's doing. I could tell you this. This guy would never be like the cover of Madden or the face of the NFL because his aura, you know, that he brings to the table. He's more of a mellow guy.

You know, it's not like he's a hurrah type of guy and getting everyone going. But that shit doesn't matter. It's how you play on the football field. And he's absolutely dominating right now. He's grown up, Rob. Okay. He did used to have a little aura when he's back in New York getting kissing disease mono out in fucking the clubs in New York.

Remember you got a motto in to miss a month? No, this has been off. It's been awesome watching. You're right. Everyone grows up. I grew up. I grew up. I mean,

the crazy thing about Sam Darnold, I think he's 27 years old. He feels like he's been in the league forever. Sam Darnow is only 27, 27 years old. 28 years old. He just turned to him. I felt like,

like I said, he's so mature now and everything. I felt like he was like 32 years old minimum. He's only, He's got a lot of good years left in him. And he's transitioned to a third team. And he's making a great impact. Mike McDonald and the defense has got things going.

Jackson Smith and Jigba is a fucking star. He's a star. Everyone was scratching their head when they let D.K. Medcalf get traded away. And I was sitting there like, this guy, Jackson, man, because he had like 80 catches and I think midcaf had less or something. I was like, I think they're going to be all right. He's been a rock star. Defense is really good. Like, they're a tough team.

That NFC West is going to be fun to watch at the end. And also got to tap in. That was terrible. We already talked about a little bit of Jane Daniels. Let's get into the chills due to the week, brought to you by our favorite beer, Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com.

Dudes. Cheers, Jules. Cheers. Chores Light, cold as the Rockies, and celebrate responsibly out there, folks. What do we got going on with the chillest dude of the week presented by Cores Light, Jules? What's going on this week? Let's hear it. You know, the trade deadline is almost here, like tonight, like Tuesday.

Tomorrow, which is. Tonight, tomorrow. Tonight. We're talking like, it's here now. It's going down. The trade deadline is going down. It's now. If you're going to make a move, you're going to make it right now.

You're going to be on that phone until 3 a.m. You're only getting an hour or two of sleep if you're a GM tonight. Eastern time. But we're going to be doing a special trade deadline version of pump the brakes. What are the rules, Rob? All right. Here's the rules, Jules. If we disagree with the statement or it's too soon to tell, we will say pump the brakes.

And if we agree with the statement and we're buying the hype, we will say, floor and if we have no freaking idea we will say keep it in neutral we just chilling right here boys all right so let's start the new england patriots will make a splashy trade oh well i'm first here jules that was me going from first gear all the way to fifth gear i'm flooring that bad boy i believe the New England Patriots can upgrade their team. They still have the most salary cap space, you know, this year on this, out of all teams, you know, in the NFL. So they can go out, make, make a splashy trade for a big player.

They need to upgrade in some areas, just overall to become a better football team. They got the space to do it. They already shipped out two guys, you know, and I believe it, it made their team better because Coach Ravel wouldn't shape out guys. If it's not going to make their team better overall. also I think they make a splashy trade by that 4 p.m. deadline, Eastern that is too. Yeah, I think they'll make a trade,

but I don't know if it'll be splashy. You know, it's getting kind of close. We'll see, I'm putting in a neutral. Keeping a neutral for me. I want to do, but you never get a splashy trade. I want them to. The fans want them to. like everyone in New England wants them to I'm hoping it gets done you know it'll make them that much more

exciting this year because they're exciting already right now jewels like all over the place I'm actually not sure you know I'm really not I mean I would love to see them grab like Chris Olavé you know they're saying he possibly might go to the Buffalo Bills but like a number one like a true true number one the Y receivers are doing excellent job for what they have right now but like I'm talking like a true true number one. that's in their prime would be a pretty wild move to make. Yeah, who do they got, how are they doing with sacks? Are they making, you can never have enough pass rushers.

There you go as well. That's true. Hendricks, go out and get a pass rush. But who's, yeah, Hendrickson, but are they going to trade them? Like, I don't know if they want to pay them next year. Pennix once last week. So any help, you know, on the defensive line, you know,

that keep creating pressure is always huge, you know. to have for a defensive unit. So Miles Garrett would be insane if they could somehow splash that around. Yeah, no. Miles Garrett ain't going nowhere. That's the face of the Cleveland Browns. Even if they're losing, they still have production because of Miles Garrett.

Would you give two first rounders for them? You would have to. I mean, right? A first rounder or like four second rounders with one first rounder then. Like if you only give up one. but uh no but it just doesn't make sense if they got miles garrett that'd be so cool it just yeah it would be that'd be fun all right we got up next does a j brown

all right up next we got a j brown staying with the philadelphia eagles i'm gonna put that in neutral also they just got phillips from miami philadelphia pass rusher. How did they win the Super Bowl last year? Best offense and best defense line. They had great, great weapons. But I also think that,

I don't think how he's going to just let A.J. Brown go. You know what I mean? I think he'll figure a way out to get, to make it work. And there'll be a bunch of bullshit and turmoil here and there, but they'll win games. It's too good of a player, I think. Yes, I'm going to put it in.

neutral as well, even though that's the boring speculation, Julian. And the reason why is because the Philadelphia egos have been saying for a long time that AJ Brown isn't going anywhere. It's only AJ Brown creating that hype, you know, that he possibly wants to maybe get traded by the things he puts on social media and stuff, which rightfully so because he wants targets. He's a wide receiver. You want targets and he makes plays when the ball's thrown to him. But when the, when the team, there's nothing leaking out to the media that the team, that the team, team wants to trade them, then I think that's a sign that the team's not going to trade them because it usually leaks out eventually that a team is looking to actively trade AJ Brown.

And that has never been the case one bit. So I'm staying with neutral. And they're going to need them in the long run. They're going to need him like they needed him in the Super Bowl last year. They're going to need them for the playoffs this year as well. When things get tight, they got to make a play in the past game. Jalen Hertz needs to be able to launch that ball up to a number one guy like AJ Brown. And Philly's got a secret weapon.

They got Big Dom. Big Dom. Big Dom will make shit all right. Big Dom. Yes. He, he, I hung out with them. He keeps shit in. He bought me a cheesecake.

And this is why I like a cut. He bought you a cheesecake and then you brought me half of that cheesecake to let me try, Joel. So I appreciate you and Big Dom for doing that, him buying it. And then you giving me half. Big Dom brought a cheese steak to Scataboo in the hospital when he was getting surgery. Like Big Dom, if anyone's going to figure it out to keep A.J. Brown good. I got Fade Big Dom well. All right.

Next one. The 2025 trade deadline will have more trades than the 2024 deadline did, which last year they had 18. I'm pumping the breaks. There will not be more than 18 trades. There's only 24 hours left or so in this free agency, not free agency, but in this, yeah,

in this free agency of being able to trade guys. Trade deadline right now, the trade deadline before the trade deadline that goes down. But here's the reason why, you know, there's been so much speculation that there's going to be so many trades. And when there's that much speculation, it just never happens,

Jules. It's just hyped to get, everyone interested. It's just hype to have all these hypotheticals. Is that the word I'm looking for, right? Hypothetical. Yeah, hypotheticals. Wow, one of the biggest words I've ever used, Jules, and I got to spot on that I was,

I know, I was second guessing myself. But so it's just the creation of the buzz of all these trades that I don't think any trades really go down because of that reason, you know. And there's going to be some, but I don't think there's going to be, you know, a handful that go down like everyone's speculating. Okay. What's the next one? Unless if all these GMs start,

you know, drinking some Coors Light and get a little tipsy and start making some brave moves, well, that's a different story. So it's all about if you're drinking a Coors Light or not, if you're going to make some trades. If you're drinking one, yes,

you're going to make some trades. If you're not, you're going to be lame and you're not going to have, you know, the bravery to, you know, pull the trigger and get that guy that you want and give up what you need to get him. Let's go on to the next one, Jailen Waddle will not be a Miami Dolphin in week 10. They wouldn't trade in the division and they are in, and the bills already have kind of a guy like that with, um, what's Shakir?

Yeah, maybe, maybe possibly Pittsburgh, maybe the, giants they kind of need a wide receiver. Pittsburgh. Yeah. New England possibly Buffalo small chance. I know it's division. With Aaron Rogers and D.K. Pittsburgh makes the most sense because it's not the division.

Aaron Rogers probably is last year playing the game. I mean, Miami has nothing to do with Pittsburgh at all. So it's kind of like, oh, all right, we're sending him the Pittsburgh. Like that doesn't hurt if he, if he dominates. It's not like they're in the same division and facing each other. So I'm, I'm actually pumping the brakes. so, Jules. I like what you said. I'm pumping the brakes because the Dolphins said everyone's up for trades. Zaylund Waddle. So they must see, they said that. I'm, I'm pretty sure

I read that unless if I was dreaming. I'm pretty sure that that was the case. But they must see something Waddle that they can build around and build a future with him being there. And he has a lot left in the tank. It's a rough place to be over Miami right now. I would say Miami's there. Tennessee's probably than that same category. I want to floor it. Floor it. Sailfire. Fire sale.

Fire sale. Okay. They got a they got a reboot. Control alt delete. Control alt delete. They got to do the, you know, in your Xbox is like

they got the ring of death right now from the old Xbox. Remember the ring of death? Oh, oh yeah, that was when your ring lit up and that means that your Xbox was frozen or over fried or something.

Yeah, that was the worst feeling ever. Worse feeling ever. And you had to wrap it in like a towel and it would work again. Yeah. They ain't got no towels down there. They got a new Xbox.

Yeah. Let's get new Xboxes. Yo, Joel's great comparison. I feel bad. I, I, but look, great. They look bad. It's bad.

Last one. Yeah, the ring of fire. Oh, my God. All right. Let's hear it, Jules. What's the last one, man? Let's hear it. The Cowboys will not complete a big name trade.

Oh, I mean, they did at beginning of the season, but that doesn't consider a trade before the trade deadline. I mean, the Cowboys, I'm pumping the brakes. I don't think they will. I mean, they don't need anyone on the offensive side. the ball and what defensive players out there are available in order to grab. Yeah, you know, Crosby from the Raiders would be great, but I don't think they're giving him up. You're not getting him. He ain't going to go there. He already would have. They already would

of if they're going to give him up. Miles Garrett ain't going down to the Cowboys, but that would be like unbelievable, like, you know, like unbelievable for NFL. You had Michael Parsons to see. They had Michael Parsons. They traded him. I don't think. they make another trade. They already made a splashy trade. They got rid of Michael Pars. I think they've cowboys to stay where they are right now. Did no, he didn't. Did Jerry Jones called Tom for Max

Crosby? Hey, Tom. You think I can get Max Crosby? You sound like Tom. You got to be more like Jerry Jones. They're doing. Yeah. Oh, Tommy boy. How you doing over there? Doing great. See, I don't, I don't have good. I don't have you're doing good.

I'm doing real. Oh, there we go. There we go. That one was pretty decent right there, Joel. I don't want to role play anyone. I can't, I can't imitate really anyone.

Yeah, I got to really be on fire. You're really good at it. Howie Roseman. I bet you how he talks like this. Yeah, yeah, that's good. I like that one right there. You give me a first.

How you doing, Elliot? You give me a first. And you give me, that booty kid. I'll give you I'll give you AJ Brown. Howie? You always looking for booty. Well, let's pump the brakes on that.

And that was the chillest dude of the week. Thanks to our favorite beer, Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coorslight.com slash dudes and always celebrate responsibly. That was fun. Good little chill week. But, uh, that was real fun. It's always fun chatting up with you talking football.

Gets me ready for the whole week, man. It keeps me, you know, up to date with everything going on. So I appreciate you, bud. And I know you pay attention to all the games way more than I pay attention. I was getting, you pay attention. Don't let him. I was going to trick you.

Don't let the love to try to trick you. He tries to play everything. I like to play the humble card. Yeah. Before we wrap it up, though, don't get out my secret. I'm going to come in freaking sword you with this freaking sword right here. What is that a fucking sword? You have a, is that a real sword of the crew?

Yeah, it's a real. sword. I was captain of the crew and this is when I went to the Buccaneers game on Monday night football last year and you take the sword and you wave it. It's a real sword, baby. It's legit. Man, you got sword. I'm so jealous.

I want like a nunchuk if you pull out a sword. Yeah, too bad. Well, before we wrap it up, I want to ask, how was the fucking Ohio State? That was, you were awesome on the show. Oh, thank you, man. It was so fun. I host a big noon. Yes, big noon kickoff. I'm doing two of them this year.

That was actually the first one I did. Ohio State, you know, Penn State at Ohio State number one team, Ohio State in the country. And then I'm doing Ohio State versus Michigan in Ann Arbor, which is going to be phenomenal. That's going to be popping big time.

But it was so much fun. It was kind of like I was in my element. It'll be huge. I was in my element, you know, took my shirt off with the shirtless craze going on in college football. Just everything just overall. Just was fun in the competitions that we do,

gronk spiking pumpkins. It was just so fun. And I'm excited about hosting it again in Ann Arbor. And what was really cool was recreating the pick from 19 years ago. I went on a recruiting visit to Ohio State. Ohio State was a top four school, you know, when I was coming out of high school for me to go to. Love Ohio State.

Love the people there. I feel like I could have definitely have fit in. I could have been, you know, a Buckeye. I feel like those are my type of people. people, but just overall in the end, Arizona was the best fit for me, but I still love Ohio State University. I took a visit there. I love everything about it. Their campus, their locker rooms, their facilities, the people, the fans, the stadium. But just to recreate that picture when I was a little bit, you know, strung out on no sleep at the game 19 years ago with Jeff, who was in the background

of the picture right there. Yes, right there. That was a really, really cool moment to come together, 19 years later and finally meet the kid in the background who was working for the news at the time, Jules. And now speaking of me at Ohio State, I know you're a California guy. What about those Dodgers, man, winning the World Series? They're having their parade today. I want to say, best world series I've ever seen in my life. Baseball is back.

It was probably one of the best series in all of sports, including NHL, NBA that I've seen in the last five years. And are the Dodgers ruining baseball? Yes. But did the Dodgers bring baseball back? Yes. So it is what it is. Yeah. I mean, that was, you hit it on the head. That was a fucking entertaining series. The overtime. Before we leave, we got to give a shout out to a friend of the pod, Kyle Larson, on winning the NASCAR Cup. This is his second NASCAR cup. This is his second NASCAR Cup. What a fucking, what an objective. Kyle Larson, congratulations, my boy. Well, that's been another episode of dudes on dude.

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