Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Patriots Defeat the Bills Reaction

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Gronk and Jules react to last night's Patriots win over the Buffalo Bills, as Drake Maye and Stefon Diggs broke out and took the victory over Josh AllenSupport the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. The Patriots going on the road, Sunday night football. The first, I think, Primetime. game in Drake May's career. Am I right about that? His first prime time. That's why. Everyone is watching. Like we've had so many primetime games

when we were on the Patriots, but he didn't have any last year. Everyone watching the Bills 4 and O, the last undefeated team in the NFL. And what do they do? They go to Buffalo and take them down. And I'm pretty sure that that was the last Sunday night football game as well at that stadium in Buffalo before they moved

to the new stadium. So congratulations to the Patriots. Congratulations. Congratulations to Vrabel to Drake May for going in there and doing what they need to do and take care of business. Now, Jules, break down the game for us, man. I know you watched it last night. I know you watched some this morning. You were into it. Let's hear what your thoughts are about this big win.

I would say the biggest Patriots win in the last five or six years. You know what? It's definitely one of the most exciting wins that I can remember since I've played for the Patriots. And I think this is a this is a huge deal. and especially for us because this was one of the division rivals that we always owned and then it's kind of transformed in they've been owning the Patriots for a while and they're the big dogs on the block in the division and for the Patriots to go on the road

and play a good football game still had the turnover with Mondre which needs to be cleaned up ASAP but they need him to play because he's a good football player the way they played on the road, that was like the most exciting. That was just exciting. Drake May made big plays when they had to. Stefan Diggs, who they signed in the off season,

who was pissed off in the off season, who coming off a knee injury, who doesn't like the bills. Revenge game. Played his best game with the Patriots to show these young guys in that room that it can be done. That was huge.

Offensive line looked great. I've always liked Josh McDaniels against McDermit. I talked about it on our kickoff show. Josh knows how to play McDermott. And I think the Patriots know how to play McDermott. You know, you got to keep that offense off the ball. You got to make their offense, the bill's offense,

one-dimensional, which they did. They stuffed the run. Spillane spying Josh Allen all game. He was a factor in some of the runs, but for the majority of the game, they had them bottled up. They rushed them the right way. They had Milton Williams who had a sack.

who they brought in, who's the highest paid. That's why they paid them. They paid them for that sack. Big plays and big games. There was a lot of great stuff. The offense is coming along. They played situationally right. They took care of the football for the most part.

They took care of the football for the most part. And the defense got the ball out. I said in the pregame, if they go in and play a clean game, they match up well against the Buffalo Bills. They've been designing their team for the last five years to try to beat the Buffalo Bills. And that was, that's how, it's supposed to, you know, when you play a clean game, you give your team the best opportunity,

especially against the big dogs on the block, the bills. And they went in and played and they beat them. That was an awesome game. What would you say is more important when you're facing the bills? To contain Josh Allen and keep them in the pocket or to stuff their run game. I know it's both, I know both of those are important, but what is more important if you're going against the bills, if you had to choose one, you know, for your team to be able to stop them? I would say, I mean, I know, I know, The Patriots did both. I would say stop the run. Because if you make them one dimensional,

then, you know, you get a little more hero ball from Josh. And, you know, you make them one dimensional. And hero ball equals turnovers. Every once in a while. He's Superman. But there is some kryptonite out there for the Superman type quarterbacks. I mean, you look, Jones had a pick on them in the red area. In the red area.

Like, that's because they rushed them. They kept them in the pocket. They had a guy spying them all game. They played tight on the coverage. Christian Gonzalez being back makes that defense a whole other defense. He is probably, what do you think about Christian Gonzalez? I think Christian Gonzalez is the best corner in the game. And I've been saying that since he was a rookie.

I mean, there's no stat line where you're like, dang, he got burned. Like there's some receiver that put up numbers. And he faced Tyreek Hill. He faced big time receivers. And no one has yet to put a big game up on him. They're a total different defense when they're out there, you know, with Christian Gonzalez and when they're not with Christian Gonzalez. I mean, the guy is phenomenal. He can cover like no other.

And he's so calm and nothing, you know, throws him off his game. There's no such thing as too much pressure for Christian Gonzalez no matter who he's facing. So I, like I said, I think he's the best in the game at that position. You know, there's plenty of good corners out there. but Christian Gonzalez has proven that just when he's on the football field, if he can stay healthy, that no one can get open on him. That's the key. You got to stay on the field.

That is the key. That's the key. And that's why he hasn't gotten the love that he should, you know, that he really deserves because he hasn't been able to stay on the field, you know, as much as he should be. Shout out Columbia, right? He's Colombian. And I think his sisters are on the track.

Like they're like a family of athletes. and he's he's a quiet kid, but he's so smooth on that field. He looks smooth. He looks fast. He looks fluid. He's a really, he's a really big time player for them. And they're relying on him.

They need him. And he showed out last night and helped with this huge. This is a huge team win. This is a changing win because it gives the Patriots the belief and the hope. Like, look, if we do, what the coaches tell us to do. We take care of the football. They're going to put us in the position to make plays and we're going to have an opportunity to win. It was proven last night and they still gave the ball away. There's a lot more to clean up. And it's not going to be that nice

every week, but they have it now in their back pocket where, look, we put this together. We put our best foot forward. We take all this coaching in. We have a good week of practice. We can go out and compete with the big dogs. So this is a huge test. now to see how they handle success going forward playing against New Orleans States who just won a football game. This is a huge test for this team, this quarterback, and everyone in the organization, because they haven't felt this in a while. And on top of that, this is the first time this year where New England Patriots looked like a championship team. They had championship play out on the field, and I'm saying this because they went versus a championship team, and they held them in ways

where there was no big plays given. They made the Buffalo bills, you know, earn every single yard that they gained. Yes, the bills are going to make plays. I mean, it's pro football. You got talented guys on each side of the ball, but they made it hard for them to earn those yards, you know? It wasn't like, oh, that guy's wide open by 10 yards.

They had to make tight catches. And that's going to happen. But when you have a team where you're going versus another great team and you're making them earn every yard, that's championship material right there. That's championship football. And that's how you win big games. And that's how you win on a consistent level.

But that's the first time we saw it with the New England Patriots. We can't just jump on board right now and say, yes, the New England Patriots are back. This is them. That was just one game. And what was good is that they absolutely dominated the Carolina Panthers, the previous game as well. And that's another thing good teams do is they put away bad things.

teams right away and they run the score up on bad teams. So that's two weeks in a row. But we can't say this is their identity yet because of the first two weeks as well. That was a very bad loss now that you're looking at it, you know, versus the Las Vegas Raiders. But the Patriots didn't really know, you know, who they were yet. They were still learning. They were still getting, building up that chemistry and all that stuff. That was the first game for Vrabil as well. The Steelers lost, you know, what wasn't, you know, that clean of a game for the Patriots? A lot of chance to win. Turn the ball over.

And they just couldn't capitalize. And that's not championship material football, turning the ball over like that. But this, the last two weeks with the New England Patriots, championship material, championship football, the way they're playing. And hopefully they can continue that streak. And that will be their identity that you have to earn the yards. You have to play quality football and not make any mistakes to beat the Patriots. It's progress. Yeah, progress.

It's progress. That's what it is. It's a good sign. It's a good sign. Now, Buffalo. Yes. I'm a little worried about their defense. They just look light.

They look a little small. Patriots able to run and control the line of scrimmage. Now they don't have Ed Oliver. I know they don't have Ed Oliver, which is a huge part of their team. Milano's in and out of the lineup, who's been a very impactful player for them. But they just, they look,

they didn't tackle very well on defense. They didn't tackle very well at all. Stefan Diggs, yards after catch, yards after contact were elite. Yeah, he made those DBs look silly. He made them look silly. And he had a little extra because it was his former team. But just overall, in general, they didn't tackle very well. If you're going to be a team that plays with your safeties and your shell defense and you're going to use them in that,

they got to be able to tackle. You got to tackle. So I'm really a little worried about the Buffalo Bill's defense. I know their offense is going to be all right. be able to manufacture stuff. Josh Allen is still Josh Allen. They still have a run game. They'll get back into that. And they, they were forced into playing the way they don't want to play. And that's what the Patriots did. So that was, that was a fun game. And one quick thing, a little recap too, I mean, we really haven't talked about. Drake May, just how phenomenal he played. That was probably

his best career game as a New England Patriot. No doubt about that. Yeah, you can't just look at, you know, in the statute. She can be like, he didn't even throw for any touchdowns. That doesn't matter. You're not going for touchdowns. You're just going for a, win and yeah and how you impacted the game and he managed that game like he's a eight year veteran quarterback he did so well he didn't make any areas where you know it was dumbfounded plays and it cost you know it was very costly against the team uh in the way that he just rolls out to his right man he's got like some magical powers i mean if he had a his left was totally open to roll out and there was zero guys there or if there's two guys you know to the right he would still roll out to

his right and make those two guys miss. And just how accurate he is on the run when he rolls to his right is just superb, man. It's unbelievable. It's one of the best I've seen for a quarterback. I mean, just based off of last game. So if I was going versus Drake, mate, I would try to get him to roll to his left to see what he has, you know, that's a little tip for you defenses out there. I mean, I'm kind of a defensive coordinator now after that nice little tip. But yeah, he was very impressive and just the way that he's growing on a weekly basis. I mean, I believe Josh McDaniels is taking Drake May to a whole other level this year. He was good last year, but the way he can read a defense now, just how comfortable he is in the

pocket and the way that he's just getting the ball out and right on target, Josh McDaniels, I see from what I'm seeing from year one to year two, is helping him improve on a daily basis. One word to describe this win. For me, foundational. This is a foundational win. That's a great word. You're right, because that's the foundation that they want. That's the foundation how they want to play.

It's a foundational win. The game of football. Make the other team earn it. Don't beat yourself. Yes. One word I would say, I would say encouraging. Encouraging. Yes.

It's very encouraging. Encouraging that they can compete with the best out there, the best of the best. And the bills have been the best of the best in that division for the last couple years. So very encouraging. that they can step up to the table when they need to and make the plays when needed when the lights are shining on the biggest stage.

You know, and a little tidbit, what's really cool about this? No one's seen Drake made nationally, really. First time national, big lights, bright lights, played the best football game. There's something to be said, he didn't throw for touchdowns, but he made got to have it plays.

There's a few third downs where he made that were elite. The one play where the guy's pulling, him down, he hits digs, digs, breaks tackle, gets 15. I mean, that's one of the got to have at plays, one of the most impactful plays. There's just a lot of got to have it plays that weren't too big. We're going to see how he does going to the left now because I guarantee all these teams aren't going to let me go right no more. Can we go to the left? Can I go to the left. Are the Patriots back in business? Should we keep it in neutral or pump the brakes or what? I'm going to keep it in neutral. It's just still a little bit too soon, five weeks into the season.

The two losses, you know, we're, you know, not such great football either. So can they get over those two losses? Are they over that hump now? We'll see. We got to give them two, three more weeks before we go all gas on it. So we're just staying in neutral. But like I said, very encouraging. I mean, we're tapping the gas a little bit and then going back in neutral.

What I was saying. That's exactly what we're doing. We're flooring it. We're getting off the line. We're just on the highway going the speed limit. But this right now is when you're rolling and you put the clutch in so you're in neutral, but you give a couple revs. Yeah.

You give them in neutral. Are they taking off yet? No, yeah, no, yeah. Well see. Well see. Well see. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down.

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Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you got to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, sex in the city, or just the internet stand.

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