Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Sam Morril Makes His Triumphant Return!

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Sam Morril is in studio! The comedian and friend of the show is with us to talk Knicks basketball, life on tour, and a whole lot more. On this very special episode of Games with Names, we're reliving ...one of the wildest endings in Knicks history: Game 2 of the 2024 First Round between the Knicks and the Sixers.  (00:00) We kick things off. (01:05) Sam joins us on the couch. (48:06) We go back to April 2022. (1:04:25) We check out each team. (1:10:15) We dive into the game. (1:30:06) We score it. (1:38:21) We play another edition of Do You Know Ball? presented by Liquid IV. Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 DeVincenzo lets it fly. This is Game 2, Sixers versus Next. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian. They're Jack and Kyler. And we're on a mission to finding the greatest game of all time. And today we have an unbelievable episode with comedian and friend of the show, co-starter of the show, co-host of the show back in the Dizzy A. Simmore.
Starting point is 00:03:00 REL. Let's go. And if you haven't already, drop a like and subscribe to Games with Names. Let's go! Games with Names is a production of IHeart Radio. Oh shit, the Rizzler. God, I really did not start exercising at that point. I look like fucking shit in a basketball jersey.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That's the first thing I saw when I saw you on stage. I was like, you look lean. Like your face looks skinny and like in a good way. I was like, I finally started doing weights, dude. It's why my neck isn't fucked up anymore. But, dude, the Rizzler, that was a fucking hilarious game, dude. I still get fucking I still get shit
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah the Rizzler The crowd went nuts I mean you think They love him You think you think like Amari Or any of these former players Get a pop and then the Rizzler comes out You're like this is the fucking star
Starting point is 00:03:50 He's such a funny kid It's broken It's gonna be like Drew Barrymore though He's gonna be fucking He's gonna be fucked up I mean Someone had a good point that said He's like very much like an 80 star
Starting point is 00:04:01 Like celebrity The difference is he doesn't have a talent I mean that's the weird thing is like Usually you have to have some talent. He's got no fucking talent. He just does this shit. Like, we had to,
Starting point is 00:04:12 we had to tell on Greg Fitzsimmons on with him. And they were like, but what does he do? And we're like, we can't explain it. Like, we try to explain the Rizzler to a 60 year old guy. I was watching it.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Explain it. So like, how did you book him? Wait, are we on already? Yeah, we're going. How do we book the Rizzler?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah. We, I don't know. We, I played in this. We kept thinking how funny the Rizler is. And Mark and I kind of became obsessed with just a child who's famous for,
Starting point is 00:04:36 just this and being cute and chubby and we just liked it. And then I played in the MSG game with him. Do we have to check the files for you? The files? You know, cute chubby kids? Cute chubby kids. That's my type. No, he was on our team, bit of a defensive liability.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Don't want to call him out. I was like, you got to pick up Amari on defense. Jesus. It's three feet tall. These games are humiliating because like I can't check. I don't care if he's 50. I'm not checking Alan Houston. The hell is happening.
Starting point is 00:05:10 This guy doesn't miss a shot. So you're talking about the celebrity Knicks game. Yeah, I use the word celebrity very lightly because I was called. What are you talking about? You and the Rizzler, big man. Big,
Starting point is 00:05:19 yeah. Let's go. Oh, and that boom dad, the guy who's like, boom. Big H. Baby.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Bring the boom. Yeah, my mom. I wrote my mom and my friend Chase to that game, that, that charity game for Guard of Dreams. And my mom was like, why are they famous?
Starting point is 00:05:35 I'm like, it doesn't just forget it. That doesn't matter. The crazy thing is that the social probably popped insane for their channels. Totally. And they got every bit of what they wanted out of inviting all those people. Oh my God. Look at him.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Yeah. True Detective, season four. Right there. This is the crew. The Rizzler and Amari. All right. Let's start this thing. Let's start this thing.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Ready? Give you a... Today we are looking at the first round of the 2024 NBA. NBA playoffs, 76ers versus the Knicks, game two with the one and only. Starter of this show. Helped us start this show. Helped us get this show on the go. Killing it right now in the comedy world.
Starting point is 00:06:25 We had some memories together. We've had some memories, a lot of memories. Sam Meryl is here in the house. He's back. He is back. Sammy, in one sentence, why did you pick this game? Well, it's a recent play. playoff game with the Knicks. It's like I'm thinking of my high points as a Knicks fan.
Starting point is 00:06:41 The LJ four point play was in contention. I wasn't at that game. I was at this game. So this was like crazy to be at this game for, you know, Philly, definitely in Northeast rival. And this series really made me hate Joel and Bede. Like every Knicks fans like, you hear fucking Bede chance. And there's little kids being like, fuck in Bede. And you're like, Hell yeah. So yeah, I mean, this game was epic. All the analysts always picked the Knicks to lose. Healthy Embed is obviously a problem, but he's never healthy.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And it became kind of a dirty series. And B, there's a famous picture of him trying to pull Mitch's leg down. There's the, he kicked Hardinstein and the nuts. We were down. This game was supposed to be over. And we went up 2-0. So it was a pretty badass start to the playoffs. Is it the greatest game of all time?
Starting point is 00:07:33 No. But I wasn't alive for the greatest Knicks game. of all time. What is it? Willis Reed limping out of the court and the Knicks beating the Lakers
Starting point is 00:07:41 and the finals. That's the iconic Knicks game. We haven't won in over 50 years. So as Knicks fans will take a first round playoff game. That's what we take?
Starting point is 00:07:49 Hey, we ask all our guests. You know that. You know that. So what are you doing in L.A.? What's this? Netflix is a joke. How's this been?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Dude, it's been a lot. We did the, we did the, I was first year, I was invited to the brunch this year for the Netflix festival. We made it. You see some really famous people
Starting point is 00:08:04 that were like, Oh, what is the Netflix brunch? I've heard about this on social. What is this? It's at Ted Sarandos, his home. So it's like a beautiful home. Is it overlooking something?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Does it like, does it have views? Are you views? I mean, no, it's like classic LA party where you're like, I've heard of these parties. So we're Bel Air. We're hidden. Are we hidden? I didn't even know where we were. That's exactly the house you want to go to.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah. I was blindfolded. And no, I got there and it was Eddie Murphy, Seinfeld, Letterman, Sandler, like every big dog in comedy. Jelly roll, every big comedian. And, but it was pretty cool. Yeah, it was wild.
Starting point is 00:08:46 So what is this? It kind of reminds me of like the owner's meetings. Yes. You know, the head coaches all get together at the barbecue at, you know, Jay's barbecue or whatever. They have the team photo. Like, who is like, who's the big dog running the brunch? Like, who's the comic that everyone's like, surrounding who's the guy that you you're this is your first one so you're kind of new yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:09:10 who's the who's the who's the who's the who's the big swinging dick in there it's probably what jerry or all those guys that we're sandler all those guys are yeah when you're talking to them you just feel people like and you're it's like it's like a hot girl at the bar you're like fuck i better i better close quickly here uh you're like i got i got impressed sandman here but uh yeah the signfell they offered to fly me back on their jet to new york today why didn't you go because we're doing this dude. Let's fucking go. God love that. You know what's great about the Seinfelds too? She goes, my friend goes, my friend Mark Normandy goes, it was an empty gesture. I go, I don't think it was empty. I think the Seinfeld, we start talking like him. I think the Seinfelds wanted
Starting point is 00:09:48 to fly me back. And he goes, it was empty. I go, it wasn't empty. And then I get back to the hotel and Jessica Seinfeld text me. So you're coming on the jet tomorrow morning. I go, I'm doing Julian Edelman's podcast. I can't. And she writes back, I love him. She follows me. Yeah, she's a fan. So they got it. Let's go. Let's go. Man. He recently turned us down to come on the show.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Jerry did? Hey, we'll get Jesse. You'll get Jerry at some point. We'll get Jessica. Jerry could hit a Mets game or something. You'll get him at some point. He's a pros pro. I mean, you know, it's Jerry fucking Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It took years of us to like nudge him to get him on our pod, but he did it. It was a great episode. It was a good one. Jerry's, he's awesome. Classic. Who was Chappelle there? He was. Chappelle, so I didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I was a little on. comfortable because I recently text him to be the movie that you're in. Julian is, I made a movie. It's going to be on Netflix next year. Julian is incredible in the movie. He steals. He's so funny in the scene to the point that like I sent it to my manager recently a cut and she goes, holy shit, Julian Edelman. That's the text I get. He's so fucking funny in it. And I took a swing. Chappelle's giving me his phone number when he's drunk. And I'm like, yeah, instead of being like he made a mistake, I'm like, time to cash in. So I, I, had an idea that Chappelle bumps my friend in the movie.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And I pitched it to him and left me on red. Wow. So I was like, let me just try to avoid him at this party and the rest of my life. So you didn't say anything to him? No. He's been very friendly. Did you guys make eye contact? No, he didn't see me.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But I, uh, I'm trying to dodge. He's, he's been very friendly in the past where like he'll see me and stuff. Be like, oh, really funny stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Instead of thinking like, this guy's drunk and probably said that to everyone. I was like, I am pretty funny. And then, yeah, I threw the Hail Mary text. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Hey, you know what if you don't ask you. Amen. You don't ask them yet. What did Jordan say? He missed 100 shots you don't take or is that right? That's right. That's one of the greats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You miss 100% 99% of the shots you don't take. What Chappelle says when he's drinking too. I don't keep, yeah. No, I, yeah, I gave it a shot. But, you know, but the movie's really good. So what do you do at the brunch? Do you guys just eat? What's the spread?
Starting point is 00:12:04 A lot of stress eating. I'm going to be honest, it felt like they were pandering a little bit to the black comedians with the spread. Fried chicken, waffles. I was like, if you get grape juice, I'm going to call you racist. I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Grape soda, sorry. But, you know, it was, I mean, look, who doesn't love fried chicken and waffles? I had a ton of it. It was pretty good. I was hoping for a little more of a brunch spread because it was in the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:12:25 It was hot as hell. Louis C.K's eating the fried chicken. He's sweating through the shirt. I was like, this feels like an episode of Louie. He's just, I'm like, I'm like, Louie. You're sweating everywhere. You got to wear a dark shirt to these things.
Starting point is 00:12:36 But, yeah, no, it was a who's who? It was crazy. Omelet Station? No omelet station. I was hoping for an omelette station. I wanted an omelet station. I love an omelette station. Who doesn't love an omelage station?
Starting point is 00:12:46 You feel healthy. You get to customize. Customizing is huge. It's everything. Or even Courtyard Marriott's got an omel station. Now, come on now. Does it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Some of those do. Some of those do, I swear. But then they hit you with that bill. Oh. The hotel I'm out right now. It's fine. It's not super fancy or anything. but they had a buffet
Starting point is 00:13:04 and then you get hit with that bill and you're like, oh, this was all you can eat. It was pricey. Food is expensive right now. It's crazy. It is outrageous. Wait, is Netflix playing for the hotel?
Starting point is 00:13:15 No, but they give you a good, and I'm with Mark, who's cheap. Mark Norman, one of my best friends, is the cheapest dude on the planet. So he, oh, it's insane. So he finds a deal. He's like, I got us a deal. So his manager booked my room.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I'm like, that's not his manager's job. But he's like, book Sam's room too. So I got a deal. Good deal. Yeah, Mark is always working it. So what else do you do in Netflix is a joke week? I'm doing, apparently I'm doing a crowdwork show with Burke Kreishe. I hate, I'm so sick of crowd work.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But I'm doing a crowdwork show for Burke Kreischer. And it's Bird and Shaq. I was like, we'll see what happens. I'm a little nervous. I've never met Shaq. Jack's awesome. I was supposed to do his podcast last year and I got COVID. And I was like, I don't want to kill Shaq.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I feel like if I go there and like, you know, they must have like a big guy. You feel like you get him sick. It could be bad. That was like the thing that came out when I played during COVID. Yeah. And so like the thing was was, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:13 how are the big guys going to handle it? If they get COVID on the field, we might have someone drop, die and die on the field. Like it was all because of the big guys, you know, their whole system. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:23 I was probably bullshit. But yeah, I just was like, I don't want to be that. I didn't even feel that bad, but I was like, I don't want to give it. You just feel like,
Starting point is 00:14:29 you still feel like a dick. you give it to someone. Oh, yeah. So you got diesel. Crowdwork. How do you prepare for crowd work? You can. You just got to read the room, I guess.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, so we did that. We did the show last night you were at. And I did, I popped up on Mark's show. And I was supposed to do one of Matt Rife did a show. And I was doing a podcast downstairs. There's too much going on. So Matt's like, I guess,
Starting point is 00:14:50 sent someone in. He's like, come up. But we were doing a podcast with Bobby Lee. So I couldn't get out. And I bailed on that. And then they replaced me with Kevin Hart. So I was like, all right, you won that trade. That worked out.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And then, yeah, and then I'm out of here tomorrow. I'm only here a few days, but L.A. for a few days. It's like, it's so much drinking and so much. Like, after I saw you guys, I ended up at the store. Yeah, and I saw like every comic was hammered. And I ended up going on stage at 2 a.m. at the store, uh, store OR. So that was pretty fun. That's got to be fun, though.
Starting point is 00:15:20 What a night? Is this a Super Bowl for comedy now? No, there's no. What is the Super Bowl? Comic Con. No, Comic Con. Is there a comic con? I guess
Starting point is 00:15:31 No, the Super Bowl I guess it's just when you do a special That's like your Super Bowl, you know So this is kind of, what is this like in the NFL? Is this like draft night? There's no, no, there's no equivalent. It's the week before the Super Bowl. It's the week together.
Starting point is 00:15:45 All the parties, all the events. No, I just taped a special. So I feel like I got no material. I feel like I'm in that point right now. And it's like, so this feels like the off season for me right now where, you know, after I taped a special, I was running on the road so hard. And my agent was like, please just take time off the,
Starting point is 00:16:01 it's a bad sign when your agent is like, stop. So I start. He's like, take time off and just live your life. And then I just got hammered for like a week straight. And my stomach was feeling fucked up. And I got an endoscopy. And the doctor was like, you need to stop drinking for at least a month. And I was like, I need the road.
Starting point is 00:16:17 The road was keeping me alive. Dude. Yeah. So you're, so how do you prepare now? Like, how do you get ready to get new jokes after doing a special? Is it just, you're just part of living? You live life. You just got to like, that's what all the guys I look up to have told me.
Starting point is 00:16:31 They're like, get off the road and live life and get stories and like feel stuff. And yeah, I just tape the new one for Netflix. And then I've got like maybe 12 minutes of material right now. You know, it takes like a year and a half, two years to write a new hour. And I feel like it'll get there. It just, it takes time, man. A year and a half two years to make an hour. Yeah, because you just want to make sure it's polished and you want to take it throughout the country.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And at this point I go, I tour the world. Like, you know, I'm going back to Europe this. I went to Europe last year. Where? Last year I did, uh, all over Europe. I did like London, Paris, Dublin, uh, Berlin. Um, Amsterdam is always great. I love your, your bitch, the, the butcher poster.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah. Uh, where else? Uh, all over. Liverpool was wild. I had like an all-nighter there that was. You go any soccer games? I didn't. My buddy run.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Newcastle and he used to work for the Knicks so he offered but we couldn't make it's it's tough they keep you on a schedule 1,000 I mean you guys your comics life is so crazy you guys are on the road 24-7 yeah but you guys are doing the road and your physically like you're in pain I mean it's it's athlete is I can't imagine especially what like the NBA players do where they're the schedule the amount of games in the year it's a lot it's all crazy but then uh yeah and this year I'm going back and I'm doing like starting in Lisbon I'm going to places I just have never been I've never been to Poland. I've never been to Vienna. I've never been to Budapest. I've never been to Croatia. Be careful, Poland. Yeah, really?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Ashwitz, bro. Jesus, Jesus. They're doing it again? I don't know. Maybe. Have you seen the world lately? No, I know. Oh, my. I feel like the places are anti-Semitic now are like, are almost like surprising. Like, it's not the places you would just think. No, the, the countries that are, we won't get into this. Bronx is to try the hamburgers in the gas stations at Poland. That's what he says. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 They're supposed to be really good. Damn. Yeah, well, Jules and I are like the two spectra. Well, this is like a spectrum of what a Jew can look like. Like tall, I remember changing next to Julian when we would bank these shows back in the day and being like, I got to get my fucking life together. You change next to this guy. You're like, holy shit. He's not talking about my piece.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I'm talking about his piece too. I'm trying to find a way to get my piece to look more like Jules too. Oh, my God. No, it's a weird time in the world. It is. It is definitely a weird time. why comedy is so great because it gives us a way to get away from everything.
Starting point is 00:18:59 It gives us an outlet to laugh at ourselves, laugh at people. We need it. We need it. Ted Sarando's, I talked to him for a bit yesterday. I'd never met him and he goes, you know, I'll always defend comics because we need comedy. And, you know, you even look at something as terrible as the Holocaust, we got jokes out of it.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And I said, almost seems like it was worth it. You know? No, now you're running around. Netflix is a joke. Yeah. You see every comic. You're a big ball knower. You know ball.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. Who are other comics that know ball? Other comics, you know ball. You know them. Santino, Andrew Santino, Dan Soder, Chris DeStefano. Chris Rock knows ball. I mean, he's always at games and stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And, geez, I'm trying to think. Sandler. Sandler knows ball. Sandler knows basketball. Sandler's got weird allegiances, though. Sandler's like, Yankees Jets. That is weird.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's from New Hampshire. Yeah, but like, it's usually Yankees, Giants, Mets, Jets. I mean, thankfully,
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yankees, she gets, Mets and Jets is tough. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's kind of, I remember,
Starting point is 00:20:08 walking around the city with Julian, we, remember we'd be like tearing it up some nights and people would be like, fuck you. That was me.
Starting point is 00:20:16 It's kind of a cool level of, because, like, you know you're a beast when you're in another city and they're like, you piece of shit. You fucked up my Sundays.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Like, he's, that level of like trolling New York fans. But they were always nice at the end. Totally. They'd always bust your balls, but they'd always show a level of respect. No, well, you can. I love the New York fans.
Starting point is 00:20:35 We had to respect the Patriots always. I mean, you guys, your teams were incredible, man. Like, have you been seeing the content on these Knicks fans lately against Philly? Yeah, we got to dial it back a little. It's the best. I want to see Sam in one of those sidewalk talk videos. I'll do it. I love Knicks fans.
Starting point is 00:20:52 But like, you got the premature celebrations, like, don't jinx us. Be respectful to these other fan bases. Like, yeah, I hate the Sixers. But I respect Tyrese Maxie a lot. Like, he's a hell of a player. Edgecom's very good. I just really don't like Joel and Bede. And some of these Knicks fans, it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:08 dude, there's too many, there's too much talk. After every game, I have to hear. Like, I hate these fake fans, too, like the Stephen A's who are just trashing the team all year. And then they're like, my Knicks. And we're like, oh, Knicks fans don't like Stephen A. No, I know. Knicks fans look at Stephen A the way he's like, is he a Knicks fan?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yes, but he's a Knicks fan the way like Epstein's a Jew. Technically, but we're not thrilled about it, you know? He gives us a bad name. There's so much talking. There's so much like every game. It's like, are the Knicks fucked? Is Mikhail Bridges worth the five picks? We did it.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So just let it be. And also they always turn on Mikhail and then what did he do to the Celtics last year? Oh my God. Game one and two. Game five, those those. Jay, the thing about Mikhail Bridges jump shot. It's so weird. You don't, sometimes when he's like in motion, he looks like Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But when he's like catch and shoot, he looks like Bill Cartwright with that weird fucking release. You're like, so you never know what he's going to give you. I mean, uh, so we're feeling good about the Knicks going into this thing. As long as OG is healthy. If he's healthy, I feel great. Because OG is our, he's our MVP right now. Get that Amy right.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The two way play of OG out of Nobbi is, I mean, I love that guy. He's got, he's like emotionless. My friend said he was at a dinner with him and he was explaining all. all the antics of the Knicks and, you know, Brunson's like a psycho just cutting his steak. Josh Hart's like, you know, doing his thing. And then he pans over and OG's got his hood up playing like PSP or something. He's just locked in. He's like a kid.
Starting point is 00:22:37 He's like, I got to just focus at all times. And I mean, he's, he's like reminds me a little bit of Kauai. He's so, he's so ice cold. I love him. We'll be right back after this quick break. Get rewarded just for shopping with Simon Plus. Don't miss Memorial Day sales at Simon Premium Outlets and Mills. You can get points at scores of stores, access to exclusive offers, and exciting surprises.
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Starting point is 00:24:04 help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted.
Starting point is 00:24:46 this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the bar like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you're going to get the bomb. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio
Starting point is 00:25:20 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So do you think that the Knicks are going to win this series? I think, well, I don't know when this episode comes out. But yeah, it comes out in two weeks. I feel good about the, yeah, hopefully I feel good about it. You know, Embed
Starting point is 00:25:37 is so good when he's healthy, but he's never healthy. He hasn't been healthy for five straight games in years. That's insane. It's insane. And he's, it's one of the ultimate, like, sad. people might talk about them the same way you talk about a guy like Grant Hill or Penny Hardaway who like should be
Starting point is 00:25:52 their talent is as good as anyone. Penny. But you know, yeah, Penny. Difference is Penny and Grand Hill are just way cooler personalities. And B, it is just such an unlikable personality to me. He's hard to root for. Oh yeah. Plus he wears Skechers. What are we doing? Does he wear sketches? So does OG though. So don't try.
Starting point is 00:26:09 OG wears, okay. The Skechers are cool, I think. Hey, Howie Long wear sketches. I won't say anything about sketches. The sketches that they wear are kind of cool, I think. And they look better than you think they would. Yeah. The ones, and Julius Randall does too. We still have love. Julius was on this team that we're talking about in this game.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I mean, the Knicks are, yeah, we're... Are we ready? I feel good. Detroit's going to be tough. Detroit completely owned us this whole series. They've got the toughness, Detroit, to give it a run. But, dude, as every Knicks fan says, everyone's better than Jalen Brunson until it's time to be better than Jalen Brunson.
Starting point is 00:26:46 He's unreal. You guys remember how much I was hiking. You were talking about five years ago. I was so hyped. Hite. I was like, I was like, my logic. A lot of people shat on Brunson when we signed him like he's overpaid,
Starting point is 00:26:57 which now is like the funniest thing ever because he took a pay cut to be here. It's one of the best contracts in history. He's overpaid, whatever. But to me it was like, even if he's just at the level he was in Dallas, he's the best next point guards in Marbury. Even at that level.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So even there, I was like, we got a stud. So I thought his floor. was going to be incredible. And then I saw his work ethic and I was like, and also, I've talked to some guys who are like he's impossible to guard because his combo of just toughness and quickness and footwork. Like he reminds me a little bit of Kobe. Just the footwork and the personality, that killer personality. So yeah, I always believe in Brunson.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Cat looks unbelievable. OG is a two-way killer, just a monster. Josh Hart, the Swiss Army knife. I miss a couple guys in this team we're going to talk about. Of course, I miss Hardinstein and Dante and those guys. But, uh, how's the city right now
Starting point is 00:27:55 with all the Knicks fever? It's on fire. It's on fire. Spring. New York is a basketball city. Like you can tell New York's a basketball city because think of what real estate costs in New York and then you can't walk a few blocks
Starting point is 00:28:05 without seeing a court. That tells you everything about the, it's in the fabric of the city. We love basketball. So, when the Knicks are good, it's different than when the Yankees are good, or when the Giants are good, or when the, you know, the Rangers are good.
Starting point is 00:28:17 We all- Are never good. The Nets are the ultimate, sad way. Like, you got Kevin Durant, you got Kyrie, you got James Hardin, and still people were going to games. Getting a guy like KD and not, it was like Denzel doing community theater. You're like, what are we doing here? This is such a fucking waste of Kevin Durant, who's like, all time, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Oh, all time. But in Sam, you live in New York, your whole life. Do you know any Nets fans? No. And if, and if you know there you know. No. I mean, if you know them, they're like New Jersey net fans. They grew up in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And that I can respect. But at that point, you're like, this team moved anyway. I mean, no, the Nets in the early 2000s owned us. I mean, Jason Kidd in his prime, people don't give him his due as an all-time great point. He was the championship a couple times. He got cooked both times. But that wasn't his fault, man. That team was sick.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Kenyon Martin, they, Kenyon Martin and his prime was like a monster. No, they were badass. And they killed us every year. but no, they've been a joke ever since. Brooklyn, that arena, it's the Liberty's arena, dude. Like, I'll go to a Liberty game, but I don't care about the Nets. Man, New York's popping. You got to explain to me the experience of sitting on the court in Madison Square Guard.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I've been denied. Don't even let me go sit there. Because you're a Boston sports legend. He literally denying me. And then I heard he actually denied McAfee. Oh, really? Also, like he, this is like a thing. He doesn't.
Starting point is 00:29:42 New York sports guys. That's all 1,000%. He won't let you come in if you're an opposing fan and sit on the court. He did not. Maybe I'm a Dolan guy now. I like that. I like it.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I'm into it. How do you deal with getting your tickets? They let you in your, you know, New York guy. What do you buy in these things? I don't question it. I'm shocked. They let me do it.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But yeah, they're just like, they're like, you want to come tonight? I'm like, yeah. So my boy Chase was at this game with me. He's a huge Knicks fan. He's like a psychotic fan like I am. He's obsessed with Walt Frey. or he's obsessed with just a Knicks culture and every team.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I think that this game, he was rocking a, we always wear this brand bacher back pages. They make funny Nick shirts and stuff. And it was a captain clutch. Yeah, look at my boy Chase's right there before he got his hair transplant. So he's going to be mad at this. Do you go Turkey or U.S.? He went U.S.?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Nice. Yeah, he kept the local, but yeah, he's rocking his. And then I'm got the old Stark shirt on, slam, got to rep my boy. I love. John Starks was like my childhood hero. I remember you always talking about him. And you love Starz. I love seeing him,
Starting point is 00:30:44 courtside nowadays. Oh, he's just the most beloved and he's so nice. And, uh, yeah, man, I did, I did a gig for the NYPD at the garden and,
Starting point is 00:30:51 and not the easiest set I've ever done. And, uh, but Starks and Marbury were laughing. I was like, that's like gets you through it. That they're laughing. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:30:59 oh, God. And then, uh, and then Christa Stefano went on after me. And just, he knew it was a tough gig and he saw me like, just doing what I could to get him.
Starting point is 00:31:08 He opens with like, you guys are heroes to applause. I was like, you, pandering cunt. How dare you? I gave him so much shit after it. But the lineup was like me,
Starting point is 00:31:18 Chrissy, Fat Joe, Cindy Lopper, and John Fogarty from CCR did an hour. And he was 80 years old. He was incredible. He was unreal.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But yeah, it was definitely like, the community there is so cool. The Knicks legends are so nice. Like you can't, Walt is the most humble legend, Walt Frazier. Always looking fresh.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Always looking incredible. Are you dapping up Shalomey and Stiller? I've never met Shalemae. Stiller's really cool. Stiller's a really nice guy. And I took my mom to a game recently. And Stiller's just chatting to my mom. He's an old New York lady.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So he's chatting her out for a while. Let's go. He's a nice. I thought he got a little too much shit for this Met Gala thing. I would never go. But I'm also would probably be a way worse husband than he is. He's probably going for his wife. That's what people don't realize.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He had the orange tie. And the friend. He said the friend who owns the table. But I bet his wife's like, I want to go to the Met Gala. go to every game and like, but yeah. I heard, I heard the explanation. He hasn't been in 10 years. Timothy Shalameh is invited every year because he's Timothy Shalamee.
Starting point is 00:32:23 But didn't Stiller's really famous? Huh? Stiller's freaking Zoolander. I know. Game Lord Fokker. Come on, man. The Met, like he hasn't been invited in 10 years. Like, he's only going because a person, his friend bought a table.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Okay. What they do is they sell these tables to like real rich people and they invite people to come with them. It's just a world that I have no interest in. Like basketball, I have so much interest in. And especially the Knicks being good, to me, there's no better place in the world than like being in a Knicks game in the playoffs. Like the energy is just outrageous. Yeah, sometimes they'll hook me up with tickets, but I will buy them also. Like I bought, I bought tickets on the road for this run. I had to cancel one because of a family emergency. But I will go, I'm going all the way with this team, baby. I love this team. What's the Mount Rushmore of courtside celebrities?
Starting point is 00:33:10 for the Knicks or in general Let's go Knicks first I mean you gotta get Spike is due Just for like being there forever You guys ever chop it up on the court? I've never talked to Spike He's on the other side usually isn't he? I don't know
Starting point is 00:33:24 I'll go wherever they put me So I don't know I never talk to Spike God I don't know Tracy Morgan It's hard to do four Because there's so many diehard fans He's just like always
Starting point is 00:33:35 Like you know Stiller's great obviously Tracy Morgan's great Sheripa EDI Falka all those like Susie Esmond's hardcore. I like Susie a lot because I saw her at a Rangers game and it was right at the Knicks trade deadline and we both were like not speaking and she's like,
Starting point is 00:33:52 what's wrong? And I was like, just worried they're going to trade OG. And she goes, that's why I'm not speaking. She's like he's my favorite player. So we were just both freaking out. And I remember talking to one of the Knicks front office guys. He goes, we're not trading. I was like, oh, good.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Hell yes. Hell, yeah. And inside scoops? That's how big Sammy is now. He's getting inside soups from the GM. It wasn't a GM, but it was something. someone in the world and he was like, he's safe. He's like, he goes, the Knicks, the Knicks love him too much.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I was like, all right, because I'm such a big OG fan. And, uh, yeah, I don't want to trade. I love cat too. I don't want to trade anyone. I like our team. I think, I think this team can do it. So, uh, that's part of being a fan, though. You always, you always believe in the guys.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Are you picture Susie going full Susie on the GM if he did trade OG? Yeah, she would be like, you fuck. You four-eyed fuck. Yeah. Now, we got to ask you about the Giants. Are you even following them at all? Harbaal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:43 How do we think about that? I like the hiring. I mean, how do you not like it? You know? I mean, Jesus Christ, he's not banging a reporter. That's a good start already, right? He's not banging a married pregnant reporter. You got to be like, that's a good move.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Hey, just boat trips, man. You know what guys do on their personal time is what they do on their personal time. Just happen to run into each other out of this. You know what? You know, he's the thing about Rabel. You made the Super Bowl. Like, you can't fire a guy after making the Super Bowl. That's true.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So what are you with Boston? How about Imea yodoka? I know, bro. It's not great. It's not great. Is there something in the water in Boston? I know. The water is a little funky.
Starting point is 00:35:19 It ain't great. I love that dirty water. Man. You may, John Farrell, yeah. I think we got a cool young quarterback, a cool young running back. You know, mixed it up this year. But yeah, I feel good about the Giants. I think it was weird because they were two and four last year before the injuries happened.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Right. And it felt like a good two and four because the viands. because the vibes are good. And when you're young and you're building to something, I think it's cool, you know? So, yeah, I was fine with it. I like the direction they're headed. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm excited for him. I like Jackson Dart. I like that they signed Isaiah likely, a really good tight end, big target down the middle of the field, who didn't get utilized a lot because of Mark Andrews in Baltimore. So he has a lot of juice. Actually have them on my fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:36:05 So John Harbaugh, if you're listening, please. He's a Boston guy. Huh? He's a Boston guy. Yeah, he went to, He, what do you go? Coastal Carolina, but he's from Boston. I think he's from Everett?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Yeah, I believe so. You got some Boston badasses in New York. Cam Schlittler from the Yankees, Boston guy. Yeah. That guy's a killer. Oh, yeah, no, yeah. I just met who's that young, the young stud for the Boston Red Sox?
Starting point is 00:36:24 I met him at Strega. Roman Anthony? Hey, Roman Anthony. You guys, he's 21 years old, dude. It's so crazy seeing these athletes now, isn't it? They look like, do they look like kids do you? Oh, yeah. I feel like I'm too old to be like, do better.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You feel so weird. Like now it's to a point where You know, we're both hitting 40 here Soon and these guys are like Damn near 20 years younger than you Yeah, it makes you feel like a loser I know, it's weird to be like, yeah, good kid, good kid I barely made it to the bagel shop
Starting point is 00:36:54 I'm like, you need to run faster on the court Yeah, it's sad It is sad Now let's get into some comedy craft talk What's one of your favorite jokes that never worked? I got a couple Okay, I got two, I'll give you two One is it never really works.
Starting point is 00:37:14 In one week, I had maybe my three favorite standups compliment this one joke and it still never worked. It was a tell Chris Rock and Louis CK. All were like, that's a good joke. And the joke never, it just wouldn't work. The joke is my friend. No, this is a joke. I was dating a girl and she was always clean up after me. And I didn't ask her, do she'd just be clean up?
Starting point is 00:37:39 And she was like, God, you're a slob. Why don't you hire a cleaning lady? And I say the same reason I'm going to prostitute. You're crushing it. You got to read the city. Never worked. I like that. I'd want also about my biological dad and my, I was, you know, raised by my stepdad and he, you know, had to legally adopt.
Starting point is 00:37:59 That's the whole thing. You know, you have to sign, you have to get the biological father's signature so that you can legally adopt. So I was like, it's kind of like the opposite of a UPS package. You're like, here's my signature. And I do not want this. it's another one. I think people got too sad. Oh,
Starting point is 00:38:15 I like, you're laughing because you guys know me. That's right. I'm like, I'm okay. Yeah. I think people are like, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:38:20 I'm like, of course I'm okay. I'm joking about it. So I'm actually, I locked out, you know, the way I was raised. But those are two
Starting point is 00:38:26 that I feel like I liked. And, but just because you like it doesn't mean it's going to totally make the hour. No. No. What's one of your favorite jokes
Starting point is 00:38:33 that you've heard from another comedian lately? Lately? Lately. Oh, okay. Damn. Or just ever. Or ever?
Starting point is 00:38:41 joke. David Tell is the funniest dude I've ever. You know, Chris Rock, David Tell, like, always kind of, oh, I love, I love Greg Geraldo, RIP. I thought he was so great. So he had a joke I love about the Civil War letters, about how he read a book and all the Civil War letters written, the kids in war, they're like 15, they'd be like, they all sounded like, you know, these worldly men, but they were like 15 in war like, my dearest Hannah, the mourn finds me wrath by the fire of pangs of your absence. I bear your cherished memory with me as I fight the tyranny of of a battle the forces of tyranny and oppression. And then he goes, think what your normal letter now
Starting point is 00:39:15 sounds from a guy in Iraq. Dear Marie, it is hot as fuck out here. My balls are sweaty because I'm in the dessert. That always got me. The dessert got me good. I love jokes that are like really smart and really stupid at the same time. So that one always got me.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Any of Rocks, you know, like those two 90s specials from Rock, like I think are like all time. A tell, one of my favorite jokes ever. as Dave Attell. We remember when you're young and you think your dad is Superman, but then you grew up and you realize he's just a drunk who wears a cape. Just like, because that's like, that's like a profound sentence. That's brilliant. But it's also the silliest and dumbest. Like, I love that. Any Atel, I tell us so many jokes he just like threw out that I'm like, I would, I would have been so proud to write that joke. And he's like, yeah, it's not good. But,
Starting point is 00:40:03 yeah, he had one about, he had one of his last special that just killed me about, uh, how he's in the subway sandwich shop. And it's just him and the sandwich guy. and he goes, hey, take the gloves off. I don't know why that just killed me. I was like, I just the, perfect. Yeah, just the silliest fucking joke. So, yeah, any Attel just throws away jokes. I'm like, that'd be any comics, like, favorite joke.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And I pop in, I'm like, he's, he's still the funniest comic ever to me. Jersey mics. Oh, God. I love Jersey mics, dude. I never had it. It's so good. It's so good. I think it's like.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And you get cheese egg? Oh, dude. I love, I love all the jerseys. Jersey Mike's man. Got out Mike's way. I was a Subway kid. Yeah, I was too, but I'll be honest, I was always so much more pumped if I was like anywhere I saw Quiznos.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Quiznos hit so much hard. Subway had the branding. They had Jared, for at the time we thought was a great dude. We love Jared after that. We all fell for it. We all fell for Jared's kind eyes, but it turns out they weren't kind. Not at all. Turns out he was a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:41:05 That guy. Bad guy, Jared. But, no, that, I mean, and they had Clay Henry for a minute. Remember that guy? Got real big on burgers and fries, but now he's down to a smaller size. They were really pushing it as a health food item, subway. That's how they got it.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I thought it was healthy. That's why I ate it. Jerry did lose the weight though. He did lose the weight. Didn't Jerry even think about that? He's like, it's a 12 foot hoagy. How was it healthy? It was like, he was like, this is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I was like, oh, yeah. It is a 12 foot piece of bread. And we thought now it was like anti-car. That was, I ate it all. I loved subway, dude. But yeah. Same. What is the other one?
Starting point is 00:41:37 The other ones. Blimpy. There's another. There's Jersey mics. Jersey mics, blippies. Jimmy Johns. Jimmy Johns is good too. Jimmy Johns was getting big when I was in college.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Look, I like them all. They all. I liked them all. But Jersey mics kind of, to be, was, that was the one of, was the most pop for, for sure. It stuck around too. All right. Before we jump into the time the game took place, the game took place, let's do a little athlete association with some comics.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Okay. I'm going to give you a comics name. You tell me what athlete they were mine. you of. Okay. All right. Let's go Mark Norman, your best friend. Ooh, Mark, an athlete. This is a tough one. I mean, the first mind that you jumped out, the first one that jumped out to me is like Tony Hawk, because Mark is a skater. Yeah. That's the only skater. He's a good skater. Tony Hawk even like gave him some props. Tony Hawk gave him props, which like made his day. Mark is so new to sports. Like he's not,
Starting point is 00:42:32 he's into sports now because of me. So like, I got him into the Knicks. He watches games now on the road. He gets pumped. That's a good, that's a good comp though. That is an extreme sport guy. No fear either. He's at no fear. Tony Hawk didn't have any fear. Mark says whatever. Mark's also like relentless. So he's got like a little bit of like Cal Ripkin in him. Oh, I like that. Never missed a game.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Cow Ripkin. Iron man. Norman, Norman doesn't say no to anything to, to his detriment. So he's like in the, he's those two. That's Cal Ripkin and Tony Hall. They both Kevin Costner. What about Joe List? Joe List. He was great last night to a Joe List, yeah, craftsman. Joe's like a craftsman. So he's like, uh, just, uh, you know, for some reason, it's popping in my head is like, like a Ray Allen. Oh, he's a Boston guy.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Ray Allen's a pure shooter. Uh, but he can do other stuff too. Like Ray Allen wasn't just a shooter. People forget he was also like bucks Ray Allen. Oh. Had handles. He was fucking. Jesus shuttle word, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:30 He can drive baseline on he gets. Oh, I love you. So I said, did you see, I saw recently a Spike Lee talking about. the game that they played. You saw that? Yeah, with Denzel. He wouldn't let them lose. Yeah, he wouldn't get skunked.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Or he wouldn't get skunked. I kind of love that Denzel is just like, he's just, yeah, he's supposed to lose 11-0 and he got game and Denzel just started scoring. And Ray Allen's like, what the fuck? He's never been in a movie. She was like, what the fuck's happening? And Denzel's like, I'm A-list.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I'm a fucking losing by 11. But yeah, I love that. That made me just love. You know, like, Denzel and Nicholson are like those two iconic type guys where you know they love hoops. You know that like it means something. them. I love, like, I remember reading
Starting point is 00:44:09 the Chinatown book, The Big Goodbye, and Nicholson's like a psycho, like, Polanski's trying to call him to sit. He's like, it's the fucking playoffs. Yeah, like a TV in the trailer. I love that. What, uh, DeVito came on here. Whoa. And he told us a story where they were doing what did it? Cuckoo's Nest. They were doing Cuckoo's Nest. He's
Starting point is 00:44:27 martini. Martini, all-timer. He was doing it in Portland and John or in, uh, Jack. Jack asked him to go to the Portland Trailblazer game. and this was before Davido was like anyone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And he's like, fuck you, I'm going, Jack Nichols is fucking, I'm going to Lakers game or a ball game. It goes there. And he said it was just like a spectacle when he walked in. Everyone, you know, he's fucking Jack, you know, so everyone knows him.
Starting point is 00:44:53 He's got, he's the A's A's of lists. And basketball wasn't what it is now. No. Like Nicholson, like, he was on the ground floor. He was ground floor. He walks in, getting standing ovation. He's all. on the Jumbotron and fucking DeVito right before the kick or the tip off spills his coke all over
Starting point is 00:45:15 the floor and like they had to pause the game everyone's looking at him he's embarrassed as a shit and Jack's playing it cool they had to stop the game to clean it Danny DeVito you're freaking idiot what do you do no he goes like they they finish it up and I guess he looks at him he goes, hey, D, you want another Coke? You know, it was fucking insane. That's the fear. Like, you feel so blessed to be down there, but then you're like, don't fuck up somehow.
Starting point is 00:45:44 You know, like, we've all seen that Larry David episode where he stretch his leg. Like, don't do that shit. Tracy Morgan threw up all that. I mean, that was awful. That was crazy. Man, I feel bad for Tracy. We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Starting point is 00:46:45 not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 00:47:02 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
Starting point is 00:47:27 His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves. I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nasree. He has to guard Julius Randall.
Starting point is 00:47:47 And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Like, you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, what's Stavros? Athlete.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I mean, I feel bad, but the first name that popped out was Tony Sir Guise. That was just 100%. Because he's a Baltimore Ravens. It's just because of the Ravens. It's just works. It's Janus meets Sir Gus. because Janus is the Greek freak and so is stuff. So you got to give Stav's obsession with Janus I love.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So I just associate him with like a Raven and Janus probably. Bill Burr. Oh, he's like old school. He's like an old baseball guy. For some reason, this is weird that first name, but like he's a boss guy for some reason. It's weird because they both were Yankees too, but the two names that popped into my head were Boggs and Clemens. I was going to say way Boggs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Because Clemens is kind of a hot head. So is Burr? Oh, yeah. Like, don't piss off either of them. Like Clemens will fucking throw a bat at you, Piazza. That's Burr, like, I piss Burr off where I'm just like, this sucks. It does. You're just yelling at you.
Starting point is 00:49:10 You're like, dude, what I made a fucking, I remember I did his podcast once and we were, I made it. I, I poked him, but I didn't know he's going to snap this hard where, uh, you'll hate this too. I said that one fucking Seahawks, uh, Super Bowl against the Patriots got, that was a lucky one. And he goes, what the fuck? And I was like, oh boy. Turned into 20 minutes of him just screaming at me. I'm like, I just mean it was lucky because they had Marshauna. They didn't run it.
Starting point is 00:49:35 And he goes, they fucking prep for that every fucking day of the year. And it got to a point where I turned to his producer like, and the producers went, I was like, yeah, it was 20 minutes of bird just screaming at the top of his lungs. Yeah. And I was like, and at a certain point I just be like, Bill, I'm just a fan. I don't, I don't really care. I was just poking you. And he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I didn't even poke him. And he came in here for the first 20 minutes and made fun of my shoes, calling him pretty much insinuating that I was gay or a nurse. Perhaps a gainer. There's no escaping it. Those Boston guys, Bill Burr, Bobby Kelly, that whole era of like Colin Quinn,
Starting point is 00:50:08 Keith Robinson is the Philly guy, but all those guys, you can't get out of a beating. I don't know how it's going to get a game. I don't know how. Are those fucking nurse shoes and that goes, does exactly what you did,
Starting point is 00:50:18 just goes in on the shoes, kills me. Love Bill Burr. Shane Gillis. Okay, this is a weird one because he's not, he's a Philly guy, Shane. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:27 But I'm giving him Babe Ruth. Mm. Because Shane is, an iron man with drinking and he still delivers. That's what Babe Ruth was. You're like, you're the best right now and you're still fucking hammered. So I go to Shane. Shane, you know what he does that really fucking annoys?
Starting point is 00:50:42 By the way, he texts me after this game because of Philly that we're going to talk about. Oh, yeah. He goes, fuck you. That was a foul on Josh Harden Brunson. And I had to be like, it probably was. But I was like, no, it wasn't. But it was. He's right.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And, yeah, so Shane, I go Babe Ruth. Shane does a thing that I hate with drinkers. He counts your drinks. He's bigger than me. So yes, he can drink way more than me. He's so much bigger than us. Does he know ball? Yeah, he knows ball.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Shane knows everything. But I feel like Sixers are like his fourth favorite Philly team in all honesty. When I think Shane, I don't really think Sixers. He is a fan for sure. Like he loves Embed and he loves a team. But I feel like Shane is like Eagles, Phillies and Flyers before those Sixers in terms of his fandom. And he would admit that probably. But yeah, Shane is, he counts your beers.
Starting point is 00:51:32 She'll be like, you're almost done with that one, right? Get him another. I'm just like, oh, God, I need, I remember I was at. Competition. I remember I was at something once in Nashville. And Shane just happened to be there. And there was like a private post Malone concert that I, the busing guys brought me to it. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:51:47 They brought me to do you want to come with. And I was like, okay, Shane's there. Every time he would like feel your beer, it's getting light. It was the butt lights that are even like covers so you can't see where you're at. He could just tell it was almost. done. I'm like, dude, I got a fucking 6 a.m. flight. He's like, one more, more. He gets you hammered every time. He's
Starting point is 00:52:04 Babe Ruth. I mean, we were hanging with him that. We got hammered. We got hammered. We got hammered. He didn't do us any favors. No. What about Dan Soder? That's a good one. Soder is, uh, Niners. Yeah, I think nineers and nuggets. It's weird. We had them on the, yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:20 the whole step, the stepdad living in here. Yeah, it's weird. That's a weird combo. He's a wrestling guy too. Loves wrestling. God, that's true. Yeah. I mean, it's tough because I don't know if this is totally accurate. I always think macho man was soda because he does the incredible macho. Oh, man. Soda does every, soda is like one of those comics where he could have just done impressions in his act and become huge from it, but he didn't want to. It's like the Jim Carrey thing where it's like Jim Carrey can do all these great impressions, but then he doesn't even need to because Soder's material is so good too. So I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:51 damn, I think like Niners like Montana and Rice, but then I also think like a lot of little yokich and a little macho man it's like i can't pin down one with soda what about science film oh another mechanic's guy no yogi bearer yogi bearer no who can't give a metz guy yankees guy i feel like i can't give him um i can't say keithernandez he popped in my head just watched that episode not i was going to say darrell strawberry no no he's good to his wife Robin Vinci? Piazza. Piazza's, oh, I love Mike.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm a Yankees fan, but I love Piazza, dude. I think everyone did. How about, how about Shia Leboff? Calling him out the other week. You remember that? That's right.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah, Mike Pee called out, Mike Piaz. He didn't give him an autograph when he was a kid. That will fucking hurt you. I remember Clarence Weatherspoon did that to me as a kid and it hurt,
Starting point is 00:53:39 but then I also remember the Knicks who were like cool to me as a kid and like Alan Houston was really cool. Oh, yeah. So it was a couple guys not doing it. And I don't want to call him out because there's probably been a time where, but if it was a kid,
Starting point is 00:53:51 you pretty much always signed. But you never know. You never know. It was Phil Mickelson for me. Turn me down. Really? Yeah. Turn out he's a dick anyways.
Starting point is 00:54:01 It turned you down, but not the Saudis. That's got to hurt. Damn, that's, you know, I'm trying to think, signfoots definitely another, like, ledge. You've got to be a legend.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah, it's like, I'm thinking of, like, old school, like, it's almost like, this is a weird one for Jerry, but I almost feel like, it's a like a Kareem or something. Yeah. Because the Skyhook, he invented a new thing.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Jerry kind of invented a new style standup. Jerry was, you know, he would give credit to like Jay Leno and Robert Klein and stuff. But I mean, I feel like people sometimes like give Jerry shit like his style's data. But I'm like, dude, he invented that style. He really kind of did. And he's still doing it at the high level. Yeah. And it's still at a high level.
Starting point is 00:54:47 So, like, to me, it's like the skyhooks timeless. I think Jerry Stiles timeless. So I'll give him that. Just hot in living color clip of Jim Carrey doing Seinfeld in the back alley. Have you seen that clip? No, I haven't seen it. It's on the living color. He's got like Costanza guy and he's like trying to, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I can't tell the story. I'm not good enough. But it was funny. Don't look it up. Let's go look it up. All right, let's go back into time where the game took place. This game took place April 22nd. in 2024, not too far, not too far ago.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Not too long ago. Yeah, pretty recently. And some of the pop culture, we got Civil War was number one movie. Never saw it. It was like an 824 movie. Yeah. I heard it was good. I think it just depressed me too much. I mean, I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Too real. That title just sounds like, I don't want to sit through this shit. But it's about a reporter. It's about like the reporter's perspective on the tragedies of what's going on. So it was kind of, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was fun. It was hard. It was a good perspective to like look into like what the people capturing the war look like. Yeah. Too real. I couldn't get I couldn't get amped up on it. It was hard. It's like seeing in a movie called your dick doesn't work as well as it used to.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Too real. Yeah, but it's 824. Number one song was too sweet. It's 824 and it's got Robert Pattinson in it. Like, all right, maybe I'll see it. Take this blue pill? Just a lot of apologizing the whole movie. It's like sorry. It's not usually like that. I remember that song too sweet. That's a cool song. It's a good song. It's a good song. I like it. Did you watch the Dune's, Dune 2? I didn't see the second. I saw the first. Pretty good. I liked it. Yeah, it's fun. It's not my, my, I feel like I'd never got into the books and I feel like a lot of the people are into the books, but I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't like sci-fi stuff and I didn't read the books, but I still liked them. That's what I heard, I heard they're cool. The second one
Starting point is 00:56:37 is cool. They're visually pleasing. It's like a Star Wars kind of thing. I love Star Wars. You know what I mean? Who doesn't love Star Wars? I love Star Wars. They made too many. I've liked the original was the best, but like, I thought the new one where they all die was cool. Do you see that one? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was the best. I think that's the best film.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I just watched the whole timeline. They all die, guys. Just watch the whole timeline with Lily. She's getting into it. Star Wars? Nine years old. That's such a cool time, man. That's such cool that you get to.
Starting point is 00:57:05 But we went from episode. Like, we did it in chronological order. So we started when Anakin was a little boy and turned into Darth Vader. And all started because there's a fucking meme going around of Darth Vader. around her school. She's like, dad, I want to watch the Star Wars. What is this? This guy's so creepy.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And then she falls in love with Anakin and then he turns into Darth Vader. She's like, what? What's going on? I'm going to prepare for relationships in life. Exactly. Exactly. You think he's sweet, but he turns out to be a piece of shit. The new Anakin's going to be the Rizzler in the next series.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Yeah, what's wrong with this guy? Oh, so what were you doing in 2024? Around this time, you just had Amazon. Yeah, I just taped an Amazon special, which is I think going to be on my YouTube channel in July. if you don't have Amazon. Yeah, I like that one. That was a cool one.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I like that. I like my new ones, I think, is better. I like my new one a little better. They're all good. Thanks, man. Yeah, I like the Amazon one. That was fun. So, we, 2024.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Fallout came out. I never, I watched like an episode or two. I couldn't get into it. I love that actor, Walton God. Gorgens, God. I couldn't get into shows. I mean, I just watch movies because if I don't like the movie, I'm like, that's an hour and a half,
Starting point is 00:58:08 but some of these new shows. It's a commitment issue. It's a commitment issue. It's hard. It really is. Like if that's why I'll, I know I'm going to fall asleep within 25 minutes. Yeah. So I'm not going to start a whole series. It's going to take me five nights to watch one episode.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I might as well just do a movie. Yeah. It's crazy. Sam says that the last two series I've invested in only because of Gagons, White Lotus and this fallout. If Gaggans won't watch them, I wouldn't watch either. It's huge with the video game peeps. Yeah, I didn't even play the video games.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah. I'm just here for Gaggans. I'm watching the 1923 right now. Ooh, I heard that's right. I like it. He's a good. I like Sheridan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Oh, man. One of my favorite movies, Heller High Water. He wrote that. Underrated. He's got a niche right now. Wind River. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:47 That whole little like country thing going. No, he's cool as hell. I like his stuff. It's like, show Yellowstone will turn you into a Republican. They're just like, they're trying to take this white guy's land. This is messed up.
Starting point is 00:58:57 No, he's a, he's a, the other one he did, Wind River was amazing. Awesome. I think he's made some, I like his movies even better than his shows.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I know. I like all his stuff, though. He's really good. He's hitting. Caitlin Clark came out. Number one. Number one. That's another way to say that.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Oh, shit. Caitlin Clark went to the WMBA. Oh, she's awesome. Number one, baby. Seriously, she's brought in so many eyeballs to the league and they just got their TVA done. Everyone's getting paid now.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Unbelievable. Yeah, she's a killer. Yeah, the Liberty are, they disappointed in the playoffs last year. I love Sabrina. Are you watching WMBA? Yeah, I'll go to game sometimes. I think it's fun.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I like Sabrina. Brianna Stewart's amazing. Oh, Stuart. You know, John Kell Jones. I like their team. I think they won the title the year after this, I think.
Starting point is 00:59:44 So, yeah, they got eliminated this year and the ACE's won last year, but yeah, the Liberty of the year before. Yeah, I'm into it. The reason's kicking off here soon? Does the respect level just go through it?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Like, when you're sitting on the court watching these, I mean, these girls are huge. They're like six foot six. Yeah. I mean, it's real basketball. How is it?
Starting point is 01:00:01 That's probably where, that's where I always get my, my sense of how the, sport is when you get to see it up close in person, nothing like that in basketball. How is it with the W. They're awesome, man. Sabrina's a shooter. It's crazy. I think she went won for 19 in the game they won the championship. So it's crazy to shoot that. You're like maybe the best shooter in the league and you just shoot like absolute shit, but they still won. So I work out with her.
Starting point is 01:00:23 With Sabrina? Yeah, she's awesome. She's over at Churchill, everyone's a few years back. She used to come there a bunch doing her rehab. She's a monster. Just all her exercise. It's so, she's really like discipline, determined. Yeah, it's growing. I think the league's grown. It's good. It's like, you know, and, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:43 did the Celtics won NBA championship. Didn't you just hang out with Jalen Brown recently? It was a while. I did some fashion show at, at the Apollo. My two things. Fashion and the Apollo. And it went as well as you think it did.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I, yeah, not open on a good. Talk about showtime at the Apollo. It's Super did it. Oh, nice. So he puts you in his clothes and he put me in like a giant fur coat. I was sweating.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I think my opener was, may I haven't sweat like this inside. I had unprotected sex with that QAnon chick. Silence. I was like, oh boy. So I'm just trying to like fucking get him back. And not my crowd.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And then you bomb. And then Jalen Brown from the team you hate walks in the room. Like how could this night get any worse? And then he turned out to be awesome. He was like, he was like, dude, that was. I thought he was going to be like, you suck. But he was like, that was really funny. And then I was.
Starting point is 01:01:34 like, thank you, but fuck the Celtics. And he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I was like, Brunson's going to get you. And he was like, Brunson's really good. But then he was like, but we're going to beat him. And he was, he was so nice. He was actually a really cool guy. He's awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I was with Sam J. The comedian who's legitimately obsessed with Jalen Brown. So Sam J. Had her on the par under the show. She's obsessed with Jalen Brown. So that was, that was cool to see her so happy. Man, boy and finger on out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:01 All right. Let's jump into these Philadelphia 76ers, Jack. All right, let's get into these sixers, 2024 Sixers. A lot of similarities to these current Sixers, 47 and 35, Nick Nurse, first year of the Nick Nurse era. Remember Doc was there before that.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Nick Nurse is so annoyed. He's really annoying. He just only, he just complains nonstop. Incredibly annoying. Yeah. Body language, facial expressions. Everything about Nick Nurse really annoys me. I'm sorry, when you're already unlikable
Starting point is 01:02:26 and you have a chin goatee, it's not helping your case, you know? I mean, I will give him this. He was a coach on one of the coolest team. that won a chip in the last 20. I think the two coolest chips of the last 25 years in the NBA are the Dallas Mavs Dirk chip
Starting point is 01:02:42 and the Kauai Toronto Raptors chip and he was a coach of the Raptors team. So I got to give him that. That road for... We were just talking about that. It's the craziest road maybe ever because, yeah, I mean, but Dirk is like,
Starting point is 01:02:55 how do you not love Dirk? Yeah. The coolest. Pau and Kobe. Brandon Roy and Aldridge. He swept the defending champs. which is insane. And then it was the young OKC Thunder.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Yes, with Hardin, Westbrook and Duran. It was the next year they went to the finals. But yeah, and then he took down the fucking the heedles. That is unbelievable. What a run. People don't give Dirk enough credit for that. No. Absolutely insane.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Back to these Sixers. They were 17th in total, often 16th. The Devin's right there in the middle of the pack started out hot. Then, of course, 2913 dropped a little in January because, of course, Embed Heardt. Nothing new there. when 11 and 22 without him. George Mnifteus, but he'd come back. This was Tyrese's real breakout season.
Starting point is 01:03:39 One most improved player and really solidified himself is the star that he is today. He's unreal. And you can't hate on him. Like, as I said about Embeddeed, I never liked Embed because of like, you know, the complaining and the flop. He flops. And I don't people are going to like, you root for Jalen Brunson. He doesn't flop a quarter as much as Joel Embed.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And he's half his size. I mean, when you're 7-1, 300 pounds and you're flopping, Like it's it makes you unlikable. And I can't deny his talent, but Maxie just to me seems like a more likable star. Like he's just, he's incredible. How annoying are our Philly fans? They're tough, man. I mean, I'm dreading the comments for this episode.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Like I should have picked six. They're probably going to docks my family, these fucking people. They're animals. Like the Pacers fans are annoying, but they're, they're less annoying. Philly fans are, I would say, as tough as it gets. I was a very unique rivalry for you. It's very specific nix. Pacers. Yeah, well, the weird thing is like
Starting point is 01:04:34 Knicks, Philly, and Celtics. I feel like the fan bases all kind of hate each other. But I have this weird thing where like, I like, I like performing in Philly. I think they're all very similar people. Yeah, well, that's the thing. I do. The Amazon special. I taped it in Boston. I love Boston. The Wilbur. Which they're, I taped the Wilbur. Yeah. I always have loved performing in Boston. Boston people to me are like, so they're funny. They're funny is in their fucking bones. Like that kind of Irish Catholic,
Starting point is 01:04:59 like this fucking cock suck. Like that energy. is always funny. And it always gets a laugh. So I just, I love Boston people. I love Philly people. But I mean, this is, this fan base is tough. Now, when you look at this team, what are you looking at? What two players?
Starting point is 01:05:15 What two players? I mean, yeah, it's in B and Maxie, obviously. Tobias Harris has had kind of a sneaky good career, but he didn't scare us in this series. Kelly Ubray played very good defense on Brunson, you know, long defender, but Brunson still cooked them in this series. Like, the last few games, he was just dry. average like 36 a game in this series.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Unbelievable. And yeah, Buddy Healed kind of looks like fucking Simple Jack a little bit with that teeth. Big Jompers. Yeah. Amazing shooter though, Buddy Heald. And,
Starting point is 01:05:44 no, this team doesn't really, they obviously at full strength with MVP level Embed, they're scary, but Embed is, as I said, never really healthy. Does he piss you off more than any other NBA player,
Starting point is 01:05:57 Embedd? He's up there. I'd say it's like him and Halliburton, but I can't call. as annoying as Halliburton is, I can't call him unethical. And Beat feels unethical. Halliburton's more of just like, you don't know how to defend him because he's so unorthodox.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And he's, that shot looks weird and he's clutch. And so Halliburton's really annoying. I don't like him. I don't like him beat. Obviously, we all think Trey Young's annoying. The Hawks team we just beat wasn't that unlikable, though. No, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:06:23 They were trying to turn CJ McCollum into a villain. And I was like, CJ's kind of cool. I always like CJ's kind of cool. I always like in the presser. He's like, I'm a nice guy. have a family. I have a family. You're like, so what, I don't have kids?
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm a piece of shit. What the hell does that mean? Father of one here? Yeah, I mean. Trey Young was such a great foil to the New York. I just loved, I just loved those sidewalks off. D.C., which makes me so happy. He's rotting away.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Rotting away in D.C., see you, buddy. Golly. Jackie, jump into these. It really was. Unbelievable. Let's get it. Sammy, you help me out here with these guys, but 50 and 32. first time winning 50 games since 2012.
Starting point is 01:07:00 This was when Tibbs was in his third year back in the Tibbs era. Big trade with Toronto this year, a guy we talked about earlier, picked up OG. Had to get rid of quickly, R.J. Barrett in a second round. That hurt. That hurt. Yeah. I mean, quickly.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I love RJ and quickly. And quickly, I remember, wrote like this Players Tribune piece. Yep. And it made me like, oh, I love that guy. Like, I think he's, he reminds me a maxi. I know they're boys that they both went to Kentucky, I think. And quickly actually reminds me a lot of Maxie. They both play the game with a lot of joy.
Starting point is 01:07:30 they're both incredibly likable. They're both really, really talented. So losing quickly, that hurt for sure. But the moment we made that trade, I was like, I love the move. I just thought OG was going to be a stud. I thought he was exactly what we were missing. Like 90s Knicks were all about defense. We were missing a shutdown guy.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So yeah, OG was incredible. And the sad thing is we never got to see this team at full strength because Randall was so fucking good for us. And in this run, when we had the starting. lineup of Hardinstein, Randall, OG, Dante. Oh, was it Dante or, it was either Dante or Hart starting in Brunson. It was Dante.
Starting point is 01:08:11 And Hart was off the bench, I guess. And Mitch off the bench, like, holy shit, we're fucking, we're pretty tough, you know? So, yeah, I mean, we never saw this team at full strength because of Randall's shoulder. We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Starting point is 01:09:12 We're honoring the voices shaping our world. Listen now on the free IHAR Radio app. And at iHardio.ca. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite, unhumor me, with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? This Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast Point Gets.
Starting point is 01:10:01 game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the
Starting point is 01:10:27 lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You got to miss Hartenstein. God, I hated Julius. I adored Isaiah Hardinstein. He was one of my favorite. Got a good Jew name, too. Yeah, he's not a Jew.
Starting point is 01:11:10 He's actually, he's black. Yeah, he's a light. Not there on black shoes. We got Amari, but he is a... He has a... Shut out. Hardinstein was a great player, man. I mean, he did everything we love.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Hard defender, beautiful teardrop, amazing passer. Played really well with Brunson. So, yeah, we miss Hardinstein. and, DeVincenza, we can't not talk about this fuck guy who balls out this game.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Dante, speedy recovery. We still love Dante and Julius in Minnesota, but yeah, Dante was just the big ragu,
Starting point is 01:11:44 the flame thrower. Like, how do you not love this dude? All heart. This was that V1 of the Nova Knicks, man. This was it.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I had a good Villa shirt, good fellows, but it was good villas. It was Hart, Brunson, and Dante. And now they make it with Michaele.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I was going to say then you had in Michaela. But, yeah, no, we never got to see the four,
Starting point is 01:11:59 the four Villanova guys together. But yeah, Dante was, he was big time. He was awesome. Now, when did you fall in love with this specific Nix team that pretty much is transformed into what they are today? When did you know that this team was going to be? Because this is when they all started knocking off and Nick started being good. Well, it started with Julius Randall.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And your Brunson take started to sound good. You got to respect Randall for coming here. You know, we, there was all that talk that the Knicks were going to get K.D., and Zion. That was all the memes. and then we didn't get any of them. We got Julius Randall. There was a Greek freak talk.
Starting point is 01:12:33 And we got like, and what? And then the Greek freak talked to New York was somewhere in there. I was part of the Greek freak talk. I did his benefit with Asimonage. And I was like, he was like, you a box fan? I was like, no, I'm a Knicks fan. He was just like, and I was like, I'm a New Yorker, dude. And he was like, well, I might end up here next free agency.
Starting point is 01:12:49 So I went everywhere. I was going to like part of my take. I was like, Yonis of the Knicks confirmed. And literally every fan was like, shut the fuck up, you idiot. And, you know, I was all hyped for Janus, but I liked the way things worked out. And Randall, we were foreseed with Randall. You know, we didn't have a lot of young players in that team,
Starting point is 01:13:08 but then the year after we got Brunson, and that's when I was like, this is something. This is it. Yeah, for sure. What a squad. And then a little foreshadowing here, a little foreshadowing, deep cut stat, first and offensive rebound rate is Nick's team.
Starting point is 01:13:22 But we had Hardenstein. We had Mitch and Josh Hart is like the best rebounding guard. in the league. So, I mean, this was, it was, it was a tough, that's why I said this team never got, because we couldn't resign Hardinstein. So we never got to see this team at full strength. And I think this team could have won one.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I do think they had the weapons. Obviously Boston this year was stacked. Like Porzingis, the poor Zingis was looking really good. That year, Holiday didn't look old yet. Orford was still a problem. Like, this was a tough Celtics team. It was a tough Celtics.
Starting point is 01:13:51 But I do think this next team never got, this team fell apart physically this year because of injuries. and, you know, we didn't get to see them. Yeah, but this team walked so the team that we're watching right now could run. Totally. And hopefully fly. I hope so, dude. Damn, your Boston audience ain't going to like that.
Starting point is 01:14:09 But I'm with you. I hope so. It made me feel better last night, though. I was down the dump still about the seas. You'll be all right. You'll be all right. Yeah, I mean, I think you guys are just young now. You had to rebuild because you had to get rid of Horford and Porzingis and Holiday.
Starting point is 01:14:22 But you still got, if you still have Tatum and Brown as a starting point, you're still, and, you know, Derek White's great. I know. He was a little cold. I know. That just doesn't ever happen to be white. I just launched a beer together. I hope he was.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I think of the Celtics play. It's literally just all three is all games. I know. And we get it, Missoula. You like the town. Everyone likes the town. You're not fucking special.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Stop pandering. Guys from me. We all like the town. It's from Providence. No one wants to say. I was very intimidated. I wanted to, I didn't say anything around Joe.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I was scared. I love Joe. He scared the heck out of me. And I still love him. He's an intense joker. He is, but I love it. But you're right, Sam,
Starting point is 01:14:56 just, can we go to the rim a couple times? Can we, we just go to rack? You need a big man. I know. I like the Vucevic move, but then also, another guy who just launched a three.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Right, and he never really got working the rotation in the playoffs. You're honest, bro. I don't. I mean, but then we gotta give up J.B. I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Well, maybe it's Tatum. Everyone's saying it's J.B., but what? Yeah, I just don't want to, I'm so a tad. I don't want to give up anybody. I feel the same way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:22 You grow with your guys. So they make fun of Knicks fans because we don't want to trade Brunson for anything But it's just like Yeah, but we fall in love with these guys And we were with them through the thick and the thin And that's what fandom's all about So yeah, you don't want to just trade for the new shiny piece
Starting point is 01:15:37 Because if the new shiny thing doesn't work Then you lose so much morale as fans Moral and capital Yeah And we get attached to these guys When you're growing with them And you're getting close every I don't know
Starting point is 01:15:49 I just hated a first round exit Let's get a game lead of Jackie Give us one of the storylines getting a lead up of this bad boy. Philly was a seven seed here. But they weren't a real seven seed because Embed was heard. So they were like, it's one of those annoying seven seeds. A lot of people picked them to beat us.
Starting point is 01:16:05 As people always are like the Knicks are going to nick and they always go against us. But we were definitely scared. I mean, they were, we know what Embedithes. Yeah, you're right. It's a weird quote unquote seven seed. Undefeated in the month of April, which was huge coming into this thing. I think people were saying we should lose. So we could not.
Starting point is 01:16:22 But Tibbs will never do that. No, come on. He's like, we're not ducking. I can't believe they fired him after this year. I don't like ducking. I don't like ducking teams. I think it's bad. It's like tanking.
Starting point is 01:16:35 It's just bad juju. Stop doing that shit. Bad juke. Plus, Tim's gonna have you in there doing defensive slides at 5 a.m. I know. He's fucking. I love Tibbs.
Starting point is 01:16:42 He's the man. I love a coach who looks, who you know has never been married and there's nothing else. Like there's, like you know he's all in on every place. Like lived with his mom still, did he or something? Did he?
Starting point is 01:16:51 I think or she lived with him. something crazy. I have to look that one up. I think she lives with him. I don't think he was getting paid pretty well. And that'd be weird if he just lived in her basement still. The McLeof. They had to play in the play-in game here, beat Miami.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Close win, 105, 104. Play-in series this year was electric. Playing tournament was awesome this year. Nicks were the two-seed here. Again, 50-win team, six and two of the month of April coming in with some good mojo. New York took game one, 11-104. Squandered a 13-point lead there in the third. third but hung on, still had the win.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Embed tweak his knee in that game one. And then something that would carry over in the game two a little bit. J.B. was struggling from the floor a little bit. Brunson, that is. Which is unlike him, but... Yeah, but he made up for it. Made up for it at the line. And with clutch shots.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Do you have like a pregame routine when you're watching these games now? Especially here, you're at the game. Like, how does the day in the life of playoff Madison Square Garden, Sam, like, what are you doing early in the day? Are you texting your boys? You're getting your fit ready. My whole crew and my whole, like my lawyer, my agent, everyone in my crew is diehard Nixon. I love this. So everyone, I'm literally watched the game the other night with my lawyer out here in L.A. He's my boy. We became tight. He's awesome. And then, uh, you know, my agent's a psycho Nix fan.
Starting point is 01:18:13 My, all my good friends are psycho Nix fans. And yeah, it, to me, it feels like when you have like a big gig at night, you're like, just stay active during the day. So you're not thinking about it. I like that. Because I love, I get anxious. I'm anxious today about the game. And an early tip out here. Yeah. Early.
Starting point is 01:18:29 How do you like it out here? Like that. It's cool. It's cool because it never interferes with shows. So I don't, I don't mind it. And I kind of like it because, like, you can pop into a bar at like 4 p.m.
Starting point is 01:18:38 And you can get a seat. So I like that. And you can, like, watch. You can go to a dinner after all the games are done damn near. Yeah, that's cool. I like it. You ever have a really New York night salmon,
Starting point is 01:18:48 like go from the game to the store? The seller, yeah. I remember Mateo Lange, who's my neighbor once. He's, you know, gay guy doesn't watch sports. Not the gay guys don't watch sports, but he's one of those gays, you know, where he's like, you know, he's like, we'll go. And he's literally like, he's a joke about it in his act now. How he's like him watching the game with me is like me watching with a girl where he's like,
Starting point is 01:19:08 he's like, heart is cute, you know? He's just watching the game. And we went straight from the game. We went straight to the game. He does have a nice butt heart. Yeah, for sure. Oh, speaking of nice butts, Kyle Lowry too, in this game. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Yeah, the butt. The e-butt. Yeah. Mateo and I went straight from the game to the cellar and we were like riffing on stage. Oh, that's awesome. So it's fun. Yeah. So I've done that.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Yeah, a couple times with Mark. Hell yes. Yeah, we've done that. That's such a New York. There's something about walking downtown after the game and just fuel in the city energy and be careful on 7th Avenue. But if you're up for it, it's a beautiful thing. All the joy.
Starting point is 01:19:39 You know, it's cool. Are you walking to the cellar? Are you getting on train or you going Uber? Train or walk. But I'll, yeah, I'll walk down. It's like a mile and a half. It's not that bad. And on a nice night, it's kind of, it's a nice thing.
Starting point is 01:19:51 You get to feel the energy. I love walking the city. I love walking. I'm a big walker. That's right, baby. All right, should we get in this game a little bit? Get in the game. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:58 So Philly starts this thing out on 11 to 2 run. Take the first quarter 25, 18. Kind of hold this 7 to 10 point lead for most of the first half. Brunson's still struggling from the floor offensively. Nick's get on a little run at the end of the second to cut this thing to four at the half. 53, 49, sixers at the half. Halftime. Do you guys have like a place to go in Courtside?
Starting point is 01:20:20 Yeah. So they take really good care of you. You get to go to this cool sweet. But my thing is like I, if they're hooking you up, especially just because I'm a fan, I don't want to miss any. Some of these people get kind of lost in there
Starting point is 01:20:30 because there's so much, you know, there's free food and there's so much talking. I'm, if I'm with a friend, I'm like, we're pissing and we're going right back. You know, so I go. Maybe a beer. Yeah, maybe a drink. Sometimes I'll do like, I'll mix it up.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Sometimes I'll do like a gin and soda, you know. Road soda? Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'll do sometimes? I'll do like, I was doing this sometimes. I was doing an apparel spritz. Nice.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Just because I was like, I can drink a lot and not get drunk. So I'll still behave. Plus it's a split season, baby? Sprit season, baby. But yeah, I'll do, you also want to do a scotch and soda, something like that. So, yeah, so we were, uh, we're in and out. We're in and out.
Starting point is 01:21:05 You better be right. Because I don't want to miss the first. Some people take their time coming back in the, and I'm like, this is disrespectful to the team. You got to be respectful to the team. You're watching on TV in the third quarter starts. The whole front row is empty. Yeah, but we're in Miami bad.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Miami is the real. Oh, that terrible. Miami, they show up in the second. They show up in like midway through the second. Hey, we got our white on though. We got our linen. It's a white out. That's how they are with comedy shows in Miami too.
Starting point is 01:21:26 They come 40 minutes late on blow. It's the worst fucking crowd ever. I hate it. But, uh, you know, I like Florida, but I do my last special in Tampa. I got a lot of love for Florida. But Miami, cool city, but not a good place to do comedy. I can see. I mean, yeah, why'd you pick Tampa, by the way?
Starting point is 01:21:41 Great, great theater. Great comedy crowd. Tampa's just cool, man. I like Tampa. Basically, three quarters of it is like New Yorkers and Bostonians. Exactly. Yeah, it's a lot of Northeast people. I feel like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I like the energy. But yeah, it's chill. We rushed back to the game. I think we were next to like Action Bronson or something. Maybe. Yeah, another great Nick fan. Yeah, a lot of hardcore fans there. And yeah, I mean, it was, it was stressful because you look, we were the two C,
Starting point is 01:22:10 but you don't want to split with Philly. No. And they, it felt like a game they were going to want. win. So yeah, I mean, God, Josh Hart had 15 rebounds. That's what I'm talking about. Unbelievable. What do you think at a half time with the Brunson struggles? Are you thinking he's going to kick it up in the second? Yeah, I did. Because Brunson is like, it's weird to say this, but you kind of never worry about him. He's such a high IQ player, as is Josh. I mean, they're very sometimes Jalen will get criticized for like Hero Ball, but you'll kind of know, I mean,
Starting point is 01:22:40 yeah, he did not shoot well this game. Look, eight for 29. Yeah. And then over the course of the two games, he was 16 to 55, which is just. But then the same, the same. But then the The rest of the series, it was like unstoppable. So the thing about Jalen is they were throwing a lot at him. They had Ubra on him, who's 6-7. They had a lot of, you know, Max, he's a good defender too. They were throwing a lot at him, but he always adjust and always adapts. And he did this series as you saw, he just took over.
Starting point is 01:23:02 So, yeah, we were never, you're never that worried about Jalen. No, and then in the, you know, in the clutch, no matter what he's shooting for the game, you don't, you're scary. He's going to get you. He did it here. And it rattled in. It was like a weird kind of bounce. Shooter's touch, maybe.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Shooter's touch. So, yeah, that was, we were worried, but it was never like, what are we going to do? You know, and also, you know, we didn't have Randall this series. Obviously, losing an all-star level player is going to put more pressure on your other star. Now, how are you, you're watching the game and you're super invested. Oh. I mean, you won't even leave for the halftime thing, right? You're coming back 15 minutes early.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yeah. Wouldn't time for the third quarter. Like, when are you? able to throw up these live tweets that we always see? Maybe like a timeout or something. You definitely don't want to be on your phone during the game. No, I don't want to be like that. Straight timeout or TV timeout?
Starting point is 01:23:55 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now, is it better from home or in person, the live action tweet? Oh, I usually don't tweet at the games, but I think I was really angry during this game. There was a little ref tweets. There's a couple of tweets. What do I say?
Starting point is 01:24:08 These refs stink. I said that? Yeah, that was that was four 22, 24. Yeah. Apparently, Kyle Lowry gets 14,000. game that was also tweeted out. Here's the thing about Kyle Lowry. But he's that butt, man.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Yeah, he's got literally, he's got airbags to take a charge every time he falls. But no, Kyle Lowry's tough because he's such a, he's hard not to respect. I know. He was the second guy on that championship team. He's all with the Raptors, with Kauai. Right. Him and young Siakam. Amazing team when you look at it now.
Starting point is 01:24:39 And then all the Rosen years. And he played with Nurse there. And he's a Philly guy and a Nova guy. And he's back home. now. And Lowry's a pest. Like he's so physical. He's the dude you play with in pickup who's smaller who just keeps slapping your wrist. And he's like, dude, that was a foul. And he's like, yeah, right. But for some reason the refs are doing that too. He made me crazy. So, yeah, that series. And also, Lowry, he's like a big game guy. So he is. So he was kind of at the tail end here.
Starting point is 01:25:04 You know, he's still playing. But he's older now. But he's hard. He's another guy. He's hard not to respect. The little guys who just play their fucking guts out, you know. You know, you hate him. He's on the other team. I mean, what do you love. people love Julian. It was like the same thing. Julian was not the biggest guy, but he just fucking found a way. And that's how Lowry is to me. It's true. I sent Sam the Al Pacino heat meme when we were talking about Kyle Lauer the other day. A big ass. And you got your head all the way up it. All right. You pick this game for the last 24 seconds. For sure. Oh yeah. Right. Why don't you give us the walk through these last 24 seconds? Break it down for us. What's going on? Down by five with 30 seconds left. Only been done five times, I think. Yeah. I mean, in the mind, in the Modern NBA with the threes, it's a little more likely to happen now. But yeah, it was still like, yeah, we didn't feel good, obviously. Brunston hits that three that rims in, which was like, okay, we got the bounce.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Then it was, this is the famous play. The Hart steel from Maxie. Brunson and Hart are just fucking like, yeah, are we fucking attacking them? It was like a fuck, probably was a foul, but they're just fucking whaling on him. Let the boys play. Let the boys play. And we get a steal. Miss the shot.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Dante misses, but this is. Martinstein's kind of the unsung hero of this game that no one talks about. He gets the offensive rebound. I think he gets the OG who somehow kicks it out to Dante. He's a shooter. He's like, I miss one, but no hesitation. Just right through the net. We lost our fucking minds.
Starting point is 01:26:29 And then here's the thing, though, the game's not over. This is like the LJ four point play where he hits the three and gets foul, but you grab him. Still got to make the free throw. Okay. So he hits the three. I believe we're up. What are we up one?
Starting point is 01:26:41 Up one. Right. We're up one point. Maxi so quick having a great game as you can see 35 points comes off the pick goes to the rack Hardinstein again heroically swats it off the backboard we lost our minds and that was when we knew we had them so that was holy crap what a game to be at
Starting point is 01:27:00 and to see it up close that was that's why I picked the game Garden's going fucking nuts right now a playoff win with two huge plays with two guys who aren't on the team anymore that was tough oh you see me cheering I loved it there's Sammy I am Rick Brunson, the whole crew, baby. The squad. Are you like almost making out with your boy after this or what?
Starting point is 01:27:19 Like how excited. This has got to be insane. We were losing our minds. This is the most important Nick game you've seen in your real life at this point. Oh, I'd say so. Yeah. And we were like, oh, wow, this team is, it's that thing we're like this team, it's Goonies never say die.
Starting point is 01:27:33 That's what it is. It's like, when your team doesn't quit, you're just like, oh, that's everything. Because that makes you believe always when they believe and when the team, represents the city like that's why we fell in love with the 90s nicks the anthony mason's and charles oakleys and patrick ewing's and john starks like these guys derrick harper they were they were just tough and they played like they gave a shit and that's how this team plays so you know i've told this to jason when i met him i was like that's why we love you so much and like we just want them to know how much we appreciate it as new yorkers you know i didn't hear any of that i just instantly when
Starting point is 01:28:10 you said Goonies never say die went to Brad, I didn't know you had braces. Remember that? When he kisses the young woman? That's the best part of it. Oh, dude. Because I had an older brother like that. I was like, maybe what his girlfriends
Starting point is 01:28:23 to kiss me in the dark. Like Sam tweeted after this game, wow, this Knicks team just keeps finding away. Love this squad. Summed it up perfectly. That's a real Magic Johnson tweet. I'm really not taking any bold takes. What a great game.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I love Magic Johnson's tweets where he's just like, the Knicks won the game tonight. And you're just like, yeah, that's what happened. I do the same thing. How about this LeBron James? Great play. Well, it's like, what can you say at a certain point? Like Brunson and these guys, they just, like, I just like, you just keep doing it.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Brunson says the same thing about OG. You're just like, wow, I fucking love this guy. Like some of these guys, they just, you can't believe they're on your team. We were bad for a long time. So when they're good, you just, you want to soak up every minute. It's the truth. Is this the craziest game at the guy? garden you ever been to?
Starting point is 01:29:11 It was, I mean, when Dante hit that shit, you feel the building shaking. That's the crazy thing. You hear about stories that Walt Frazier will tell, like when Willis Reed came in the building. And he goes, it was so loud and the building was shaking that they, they were like, I can't believe. Like, I'm scared the building's going to collapse. That's what it felt like, honestly.
Starting point is 01:29:29 I do a thing when players are shooting free throws where I just will, like, get up and stomp. Because I do feel like you feel it on the floor. And it's annoying. And that's, I mean, when everyone's doing that, you're like, this is fucking crazy. So yeah. Did you talk shit to any of the Philly players during this? Not really, but not like a fuck you or mean look. More talking to the refs. I'll talk to the
Starting point is 01:29:49 refs. Some of them will give you a look too. It's funny. Like Tony Brothers always is just like shut up. Yeah, he always just looks to me like, ugh, this idiot. But yeah, I'm like, come on, call it fair. You see, know what you got to do? Sammy? Yeah. You got to invite these refs to one of your standups. You butter them up a little. It happened once. It happened once? No, not my, but one of the refs came over to me.
Starting point is 01:30:11 I was like, I'm a huge fan. And I was like, then call the game fair. And my mom was next to me and she laughed. She was like, she was like, just say thank you. I was like, call it fair. If you are a real fan. He's a fan. I was like, call it fair.
Starting point is 01:30:23 I love your mom. We won the game. Yeah, my mom was like, you're a psycho. You're like something's wrong with you. I was like, I'm a fan. I'm a fan, ma. Where did you celebrate after this? I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I don't remember what we celebrated. Yeah, it was a good night. Yeah, it was a good night. we definitely were just like, what the fuck? What the fuck just happened? That was, it was one of those nights for sure. Now, I'm just picturing like Dick Bavetta front row at the comedy seller watching Sam show.
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Starting point is 01:32:11 And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast, Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, I say, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the bomb.
Starting point is 01:33:08 So listen to Point Game on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jack, aftermath of this. All right, put a bow on this bad boy. 104, 101. Knicks win it. Take the series, ultimately, and go win this thing in six. They fought.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Maxi took a game from us. I mean, they were not, it was not an easy series. As they always do. And then just to clarify and stress how insane that comeback was, it was just the fourth time in the play-by-play era, dating back to 96, that a team has won a playoff game after trailing by at least five points
Starting point is 01:33:42 in the last 30 seconds. Jesus. Only other times, Miami against San Antonio in game six of the 2013 finals. Larry. Golden States overtime win over New Orleans in game three, the 2015 playoffs. Kobe's game winner to beat Phoenix in game four.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I remember that one. That was sick. Pretty crazy, bro. That was a cool Phoenix team, too. Good company. Yeah, that was like Marion. National. when he kind of, Kobe just dribbled right and fucking hit that right on.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Was it Rajabelle? I think it was. Yeah. Great memory. Holy smokes. I mean, you clearly miss Tibbs a little because you. I love him.
Starting point is 01:34:16 I love Tibbs. Yeah, he was a short end of the stick last year. He did. It's a tough thing to lose. And he brought us back to relevance and his disciplinarian style. Like, I love it. I love a guy who feels like he cares and screams at you.
Starting point is 01:34:28 It feels like Pacino and like any given Sunday or something. You're like, this dude gives a fuck. It really does. Fuck. That hurt. for sure, but also like, you know, Brown's doing a good job right now. It's a tough business.
Starting point is 01:34:40 I know. It's a tough business, man. Tough business. And then lastly, before we go to name this game and score this game, Sam, what do the Knicks mean to you? I mean a lot. I mean, we name the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:54 I think it's the Dante 3. Okay. Because the difference, it's not the game. Right. It's the 3. It's like the shot. Dante 3. I like that. And look, we get a little bit of bias with
Starting point is 01:35:04 Mike Breen did a double bang here when he hit the bang bang and a lot of those are Nix games That's true because he's a Knicks fan but he as a pro he hides it which I respect but you know it's so funny Reggie Miller's on these games now and I feel like he's really hamming up he like the Knicks are good but he'll he we know he hates us we know it so he'll let it slip out anytime Atlanta went on a run in that series reggie Miller would be like this could be it wouldn't be like Reggie shut the fuck up redgie shut the fuck up reggie but uh Yeah, Dante, I mean, the fact that Dante hit in the fact that Breedin's calling it was pretty special. And I think it's the Dante three. The Dante three.
Starting point is 01:35:42 But Hardenstein is the unsung hero of this whole like two sequences. And Hardinstein knows, I'm glad he knows how much I love him. I hate that he went to OKC because he's, we know how essential that guy is to a defense and like what a glue guy he is. He's a hell of a player. Not the worst place to go to, though. I mean, dude. Jesus, crime. They're looking good.
Starting point is 01:36:04 I can't stand watching them though. I absolutely hate that brain of basketball. Because you know what? Caruso and Louie Gugas Alexander, they're just like, see you. You're out of the game. Yeah, I hate it. It drives me up a wall. Shea is like probably the best player who I like watching the least.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Yes, that's a great way to play. A lot of people say that. All the basketball heads say that. He's incredible talent, but I just like, it's not. Yeah. The foul baiting the, it's like a terroristic act. I hate it. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Absolutely hate it. It's not a fun team. to watch. I like watching Ant. I do like watching Ant. He's fun. And brings it, maybe. He's also... He's all simple, everything. Athletically a freak. Unreal. Yeah, I'm a fan. He looks like Jordan a little bit. And he's great in that Sandler movie.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Oh, he's a great. He's hilarious. And then he clips is a really good flick. Really good. And the Spanish dude did really good. The main guy. Yeah, yeah. He acted his balls on. That was a great movie. Oh, we've got to score this game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. I mean, it's clearly like, look, this is my bias here, obviously. So,
Starting point is 01:37:04 Stakes, zero to 10. Stakes are not. You can't give it. It's probably like an eight because like, look, if you lose, it's one, one. But I just think losing this game, you can't go higher than eight. But it did feel like a big loss going. You have home court against a team with a guy who's still an MVP. Like, yeah, he's hurt, but he's still, I think he dropped 50 in one of the games this series.
Starting point is 01:37:26 I mean, he was a problem still. So stakes, you're giving an eight. Yeah, is that too high or what? No, that feels right. That's good. I'm going to 7.9. Okay. Shout out.
Starting point is 01:37:36 My brother's birth year. 7.6. We're in the same ball per 7. All right. Yeah. I told you, mine's going to be a little higher for all. And I'm going to be higher in star power too. What's the star power?
Starting point is 01:37:44 Zero to 10 decimals encouraged. You were there. I was there. Oh, you know what? Oh, so we can count. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, then go fucking like 9.5.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Because, you know, all the like rock was there. You know what? No, fuck it. Go 98. Yeah. Just rock's there. Stiller's there. This is fucking legit.
Starting point is 01:38:01 It's MSG. It's MSG. And fucking Brunson, Joel Ambide, you know, like Max, he's a star, you guys are gonna,
Starting point is 01:38:08 it's gonna be comically low what you give it. I'll give me an 8.5. All right. It's still, I mean, it's the garden playoffs. I got tickets so really
Starting point is 01:38:15 you shouldn't be able to go higher than 8.5. No way. I have seven five. All right. The gameplay of this. I mean, this was incredible to watch.
Starting point is 01:38:21 It was, it was, but it was really the last minute because it was a tough game to watch because Brunson, as I said, shot eight of 29. So I'll say gameplay,
Starting point is 01:38:31 factoring in the ending, I'll go like 8.5. I like that. Because I don't want to go too high because the whole game was, and I hate, no one talks about this, but when your team is good, it's kind of a miserable experience. When your team sucks, you're like, I'm playing with house money. When your team has expectations, you're like, I don't have fingernails left. I'm fucking panicking. This sucks. I think I'm going 8.7. I mean.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Wow. Okay. Maybe I undersold this. Last shot, whenever you have like that five second thing, we'll always remember that. Yeah. They'll go too. Maybe I should go like eight, nine. Because I think that ending was insane. Anytime you got a walk off anything, that race game, that always raises the gameplay.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Now the name of the game, the Dante 3. I'll give it like, you know what? There's like a different rating for New Yorkers and just sports fans because this isn't like the catch. This isn't like, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:24 I can't do that. But it's like, I think I got to go like 8.5 here because every New Yorker knows it. Every New Yorker, like when we lost Dante, it hurt. It really hurt
Starting point is 01:39:34 because he was only a Nick for one year, which is crazy because of how much we loved him. He was such a beloved player and New York's got so many Italians. So they were like, Dante,
Starting point is 01:39:45 we got a guy. So that was tough to lose him. Yeah, God. I still root for him every game. I know. I hate to see that Achilles. Oh, that hurt. I'm going 8.4.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Okay. I mean, look, 7.3. I know. It's been a long time. Kyle's bringing us down on this one. I see. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Where does it rank on the list? So it's a 7.96. It's a huge for. So it's our tied for our 67th game with the Miracle in Miami, Doug Flutie, B.C. versus Miami in 1984. Oh, hell Mary. I don't know about that. Can you see a little love?
Starting point is 01:40:22 The Veritec Arod fight. Oh, wow. Casey Affleck. A Casey Affleck. You can see here. Oh, man. He's awesome. Oh, it's also tied with.
Starting point is 01:40:31 game three of the 2002 Easter conference final first round. What game is that? Let me see this one. That's got to be like the Spurs or something? Is that the Lakers? That's the new one with No, it's Lakers. Wait, where is this? Oh, first round. Sorry, I thought it was finals. First round is damn. Did we just do that with BD?
Starting point is 01:40:47 That was the Baron Davis. Oh, Baron Davis was money, dude. That guy had a bag for back in the day. He was one of the first point guards with like hops where we were like, holy shit. It was like that era of point guards where you had like like Steve Francis and Marbury could jump out of the building back then, you know.
Starting point is 01:41:06 BD was dunking on Carolinca. That was so cool. That was the, that was when I liked the Warriors. The Warriors were sick. And then after that, I moved to Boston and I never like, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:16 then they got really good and I kind of never got to see him. But you liked that war. I could see that. BD. Spree well before him. Those like, they were shitty run. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Those were the fun warrior teams. But the Warriors teams now, it's like I just feel so, I'm so envious of those fans because like, you got Curry. Yes. And Dremont is like, you hate him if he's not on your team.
Starting point is 01:41:35 But if he's on your team, he's like. Draymond Green is a fucking He's unreal. He's the ultimate hate him if he's not your team, love me like to a T. But I would love him
Starting point is 01:41:44 if I was a warrior's guy, for sure. Yeah. I hate that they're a little bit of a shell of themselves, but still. Like a waning dynasty of save Kerr whatever. That's how it always ends.
Starting point is 01:41:55 I know. But I love those teams. Nothing lasts forever, boys. Nothing lasts forever. I don't think we missed anything. I think we nailed this, dude. Yeah. We miss anything?
Starting point is 01:42:04 No, I think we got it. It was a special night. I mean, anytime the Knicks are in the playoffs, I'm just like, I'm loving it, man. It's like you feel lucky to be watching a fun team and like, you know, the world's a fucked up place. So we're grateful for sports that brings us together. And yeah, no, we love basketball in New York.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Now, amen. In that Red Cup last night at your special over in at the United? Yeah, yeah, when it was performing. Yeah, was that a bodega cat in there? I was drinking a bodega cat and Coke. I like a whiskey coat. It was hitting last night. The bodega? It was hitting. Rachel made a good one.
Starting point is 01:42:39 I was making a manhagia cat. I'd say that I can't pass it up when I saw it sitting there. Yeah, no, I loved it, man. I saw Jackie on tour. We were in Charlotte. That's right. You know what happened that night to me? That was when you won't died on the way to Richmond. I texted you. Yes, I was like, so I did a tour bus for most of the tour, but
Starting point is 01:42:56 the first one was like just four or five nights. So I was like, ah, the bus is really expensive. you find ways like, yeah, let's just do a sprinter van after the show, which is a little annoying because I like the tour bus because you could sleep on the bus. You wake up in the next city. You can go to the YMCA, play some ball. Yeah, yeah, baby. You know all that.
Starting point is 01:43:10 I get a schvitz in. I get a schvitz in. You heard that bit. Yeah, I heard that one. So then. You watch two guys, set each other off? I don't know. That's going to be in the next special.
Starting point is 01:43:19 That one. Got to wait for that one. That's not the one coming out soon. So then we're on the road. And Gary Veter and I, you know, my boy, Gary. and we're in a Sprinter van just Gary and I head to the next city late night and it's like we're all tired
Starting point is 01:43:34 we're like let's watch this uh let's watch one of the Oscar movies we haven't seen it was that it was when the substance just came out with the me more yeah so we throw that on we're watching the back seat the driver complete like we would have fallen asleep we weren't watching this movie so shout to this movie which we didn't enjoy we're like this movie sucks but we didn't like it so it was keeping us awake because we were like
Starting point is 01:43:52 this fucking sucks what the hell and then the driver just falls asleep and just drives us right off the fucking road and we're like, dude, what the fuck? And he's like, we're like, we had to grab him
Starting point is 01:44:01 and he woke up. He finally, we're off the fucking road. We could pull into a rest area and hit another car pick us up. We're like, nah, we're taking another car.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Dude, when I was texting with you and Brian, I'm like, holy shit. I know, in the last, that's terrifying.
Starting point is 01:44:12 That's terrifying. Shout out to the substance. Shout out to the substance. Kept us alive. She was looking all freaking in that thing. Oh my God. That was like, bro,
Starting point is 01:44:20 that was scary. That was crazy. And I went even there I was like my heart was racing when you texted me you know that you probably had some bodega cat in you and the nerves were nice and calm to handle the situation perfectly. I just got in a huge
Starting point is 01:44:32 wormhole of listening about this cook on the Titanic that drank so much whiskey that he was able to tread the 28 degree water for fucking four hours. What? And he survived. Holy shit. You saw that? You heard it here. Alcohol's healthy.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Heck yes. Alcohol saves lives. Bodega cat for you. Bodega Cat. Everyone go check out his podcast. We might be drunk. You got to come back, man. I got to come back. I got to come back. It's always fun.
Starting point is 01:45:00 I'm on the road. I'm not doing a ton, really. I'm doing Verona, New York, the Turning Snow Casino. It's a cool casino. And then, yeah, I'm doing Europe. I'm going all over Europe. So I'm starting in Lisbon. Then I got Athens.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Budapest. Holy shit of my numbers bad in Budapest. You want to see a sad seating chart. Because you never know where, and then like Zagreb, Croatia. I've sold a shitload of it. You never know where you're going to have an audience. That's why you take a chance. Croatia is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:45:22 I've heard. And I also just like, I just wanted to go to these places. Yeah. I'm hitting like, you know, uh, Stockholm again. I'm hitting Copenhagen again. But then I'm, I've never been to, you know, Warsaw. So I'm doing a Warsaw and I'm doing like, uh, all these other places. There's a great burger in Copenhagen.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Really? Like the, yeah, it's, it's called like the gas light or something. I've heard of this. Yeah, it's a great burger. I mean you told me about this one. Yeah, I got in the airport with my, with Lily. Nice. And we, I lot, we left our passports.
Starting point is 01:45:52 in a family changing room because she had to like pee. And we're walking down to the terminal. And all of a sudden I hear my name, we hear Julian Edelman has to come to. And she, and I'm like rushing because we're kind of late. And Lily goes, dad, they're saying your name. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:46:11 Oh shit, our passports. We got them. It was crazy. Great burger, though. Shout out. Copenhagen's cool. And, yeah, I mean, I'm fired up. I'm going to like Vienna to.
Starting point is 01:46:20 I'm going to all these places I just wanted to go to. So I was like, yeah, I'll just, you know. That is going to be awesome. You taking Gary with you? I'm bringing, my boy Chase is coming with me. Let's go. Yeah, doing a buddy trip. He came with me last time.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Yeah. And then, but Gary's usually on the row with me, yes. And Gary's in this movie that hopefully he's going to be out of top of next year with this guy. All time scene, bro. It's an all time scene. I'm proud. Julian,
Starting point is 01:46:39 I'm proud of this performance he gives. I'm like, this is fucking epic. So you're, I'm proud. I can't wait to watch it. Netflix next year? Yeah, yeah. That's the word.
Starting point is 01:46:48 What is the name of the movie? The tour. Yeah, we're on a bus. And it's, yeah, it's got a loaded cast of comedians like Santino is great and it. Stavv is great. Self-funded. So everyone got to go stream it, man. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Everyone goes stream it. He put all his money and his effort, is writing everything into this. If it doesn't work, I'm homeless. He's homeless. I'm living in these YMCA's. Get nice schvitz. Young men. Gosh.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Jules, give Sam that trophy. We had that since, we had that since. What's this? We forgot to give him. you our trophy that you got a gamey bro. I'm honored. So we wanted to give that to you. Jack, what is our category? Most requested guest, Sam beat out Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. It was best future guest. Best future guest. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and you won. That's right. Sammy, thank you for coming on. Love you, dude. Love you, bro. Great to see you guys.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Thanks, Sam. Man, it's always great to get the insight of Sam because Sam's like our ultimate, like, insider to the comic world. He is. He's our portal. He's our portal. It felt like we were getting the band back together too. It did. Like old times, baby. Down on Canal Street. Man. You know, like, it's so fun dropping his name. It is. To the comic world. There is some way. Like, that's my like, oh yeah, I'm boys with Sam Morrell. Dude, I fucking love Sam. That guy's so talented. Like, you know what I mean? Like, any comic. Like, he's a comics comic. Oh, for sure. Is he a comics?
Starting point is 01:48:21 comics, he's a comic comic. I think so. I think he's wildly well regarded as like one of the better joke writer comedians. Joke writer comedian. Oh, unbelievable. He talked to comedians, they say that. I mean, Mark are both like joke writers. I mean, I shouldn't say that. I mean, as a, you know,
Starting point is 01:48:35 as a roaster. Don't roast me, bro. Honestly, I should start retaining the comics. You could start retaining anything. Yeah, that would be great. That would be great. But the retaining of retention.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Shout out retention. This is, we're comic eccentric. Yeah, we are. We're comic adjacent. We're, we're, we're,
Starting point is 01:48:56 we're good in every hood with all comics, man. Where's gronk? I don't know. We're not word guys. Not word guys. Man,
Starting point is 01:49:03 well, I love you. I'm a little discombobulated because I feel like I'm a little thirsty and need a little rehydration. Killer segue.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. One for two. Oh. Awesome. Completion percentage is up.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Oh. Those are hard. For us good. Those are hard for kids. I got to really watch them. You know what? You got to practice with your free. I always tell the young kids, you don't catch the ball with your hands.
Starting point is 01:49:30 You catch it with your eyeballs. And that's just a reminder to myself. Just like I have to remind myself every once in a while I got to get one of these liquid IVs. Put it in the all-inclusive, awesome little holder, rip, tear, and let's go. and bear, which is rare. And we go. I like to give two shakes. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and another seven.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Now I'm ready. He's back. What do we got? What do we got? What do we got? Oh, do you know what we got? Drink up and lock in because it's time for everyone's favorite game. We all know it is, do you know ball?
Starting point is 01:50:26 TM. Trademark. That's a good one. Do you know, do you know ball? We got to do stuff with that. I suspect we can't get that. It's probably already taken. Shane Gillis beat us too.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Our favorite game, do you know ball? The game where we answer football questions so thought provoking that you'll need a liquid IV by the end. Let's get into it. Guy, guy, you want to lead us off? No, you go. All right, first.
Starting point is 01:50:52 And do you know ball, Jules? What is it? What is a football cliche that drives you nuts? Something you hear people say over and over again. They're just like, oh, okay. Yeah, it is. is what it is. It is what it is.
Starting point is 01:51:06 That's a like cliche. Oh God, I believe it. Coaches and is it is it is what it is. Such a nothing say. It's like, all right, just don't say anything then.
Starting point is 01:51:15 It is what it is. Look, fellas, it is it is what it is. Clechie. What else? What are other cliches? Like a scrappy gym rat. That's in there.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Thinker, three bowl player. Oh, I'd have to take it one day a time. One day at a time. I'm playing a time. Coach's son.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Coach's son. You're just basically describing a white, a white professional athlete. Is that the cliche? You said. Those are the guy. They play the game the right way. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:45 they play the game the right way. They're quicker than fast. They're high motor guys. Definitely was a coach's son. You know, he's not going to wow you in gym shorts, but let me tell you, he's not going to make a mistake. High football IQ.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Oh, my God. Oh, I love those. That's a cliche. That's a great cliche. It gets me every time. You got to get Nikovic for that one. Oh, boy. He will go off.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Imagine if he had tats, sleeves. Ninkovich thinks if he had sleeves, he'd have 30% more money. And why didn't he invest in himself? He just, I guess he was. Chris Long did. Chris Long. Chris Long made a lot of money. Ninko sleeves.
Starting point is 01:52:24 That's what Nico used to say. If you're a white guy, you need to have a sleeve to get paid as a D-end. Look at it. What a take? Oh, my God. That is an unbelievable take. Does Trey Hendrickson have that too? I don't think he does.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Max Crosby does. Max Rosby does. Mad Max for sure. Maxes had it up to his. Henderson. But, you know, he's also had a, you know, they didn't want to pay him. Yeah. But he got paid.
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Starting point is 01:54:21 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam, this Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the podcast. playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what.
Starting point is 01:54:37 He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night-night
Starting point is 01:55:02 basis on offense. And when IT's friends stopped by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, I said, you figure it out real quick.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Biggest, biggest no-no for rookies in the NFL. locker room. Biggest no-no for NFL rookies in the locker room. Don't be coming in and touching the radio. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:48 You're in the weight room. Don't be touching the radio. Okay, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, don't be heard, be seen. We got a whole lot to learn. And I, I honestly think the young, like, I don't know. I was just getting, I've never been in the NIL locker room. But I really do think these younger football players are smart enough and read the room so much better than what a lot of guys did back in the past. Not in these last five.
Starting point is 01:56:26 I think they're going to. I think they're going to, you know, because they hear the whole, the whole saying that, you know, You know, these guys saw this, that, you know, they don't know how to get work. They can't get yelled at. They can't be coached hard. You know, I think they're smart. I think the newer players are so much smarter and so much more informed on the craft. Like even now from 15, 20 years ago, like from when I got into 20 years before that, it's like there was like three dudes.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Now everyone's doing the best thing for everything. And they all ultimately are going to see these. contracts that are so big that I think they'll fall online. So be seen, don't be heard, don't touch the radio. Um, no bird watching. Yeah, you can't. But who knows? Who knows? It's a different locker room now. You know, birds have rights too. Thanks. All right. Next one. You put, say you put Patrick Mahomes on the current New York Jets. How far do they go? I think they may get to the second round of the playoffs. Are they winning a division?
Starting point is 01:57:39 I don't know if they win division. They're wild card. They're definitely in playoff. They're definitely maybe probably winning a playoff game. Because they have a pretty damn talented roster. They've had first picks for the last 12 years. Garrett Wilson's. Garrett Wilson,
Starting point is 01:57:56 Breeze Hall. I think they got some really good linemen. They're a quarterback away. And the defense, you got Aaron Glenn getting that defense situated. They got a lot of, like really high draft talent. That's that question. That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:58:09 It's a hypothetical. You know, and Patrick does move the needle that much. Yeah. And like a belief that you can win too. Yeah. If Patrick Mahome walked in that locker room, everyone there would think that they're going to Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:58:23 I mean, they did that with Aaron Rogers. Yeah, but if they would have got, if they would have got Aaron seven years before, it would have been different. I mean, my home's just not even. 30 yet. I agree. I mean, yeah. He'd have to... He's 30 this year. Pat, I think he's going to 30.
Starting point is 01:58:40 That sounds right. I mean, he's still pretty young. Yeah, he's 30 right now. Yeah. 95. Yeah, I mean, it'd be a crowded room, though, with, you know, he'd have to compete with Cade Clubnick and Brady Cook and Bailey Zappy as well. And Gino, of course, but I think he could win that job. Join the Jets, who knows? You're starting a franchise, and you can pick any defensive player in their prime.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Who are you taking? Lawrence Taylor Game record Lawrence Taylor I don't know I mean the football that the college
Starting point is 01:59:14 when you go to like knowledge for football and the university I studied of knowledge of football was under Belichick and I may have been I'm so biased to it
Starting point is 01:59:24 because it's all I heard in fucking meetings about was this guy Lawrence Taylor and then you watch the film you hear the stories you watch the man speak I
Starting point is 01:59:33 defensive player. It's got to be LT. You know, Ed Reed's in there. Ray Lewis is in there. Those are some of the guys that I played against. Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Miles Garrett, Julius Peppers. Reggie White. Reggie White. But I think I'm going L.T. I'm with you. I was trying to think of any secondary guys beyond Revis, like a,
Starting point is 01:59:57 would you do a, or, I mean, beyond Ed Reed, would you do a Revis or a Dion or Troy? I think I think you're at their peak. If I'm building the defense or you got to have either a guy that will absolutely wreck the game or a green dock guy, which could be a safety or that middlebacker. I'm with you. Someone's going to get everyone communicated and lined up. You're either got to have like LT, like someone that's either just going to fucking wreck it or someone that can get things communicated.
Starting point is 02:00:28 I'm with you there. So I don't know. That's a great question. I like that one. I like that answer. All right. I still get LTE highlights on my Instagram all the time. It's crazy. Got to stop and watch them.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Next one, Jules, and do you know ball? Will we ever see a Super Bowl played outside the United States? Yeah, probably. In our lifetime. And where? Where and when? I don't know. Probably what, 10 years?
Starting point is 02:00:52 With the seven years? And where? It all depends. That's a tricky game because a lot of these stadiums are being built to be promised to have a Super Bowl. Yeah. Right. So it's kind of like, well, when's that time? that break going to go and when are they going to be desperate to really try to expand the game?
Starting point is 02:01:08 Not desperate, but take the next level of expanding the game. Because that would be the next level. You know, is bringing to London or London. And London's got to be. Mexico. Right. Mexico City? London.
Starting point is 02:01:21 It would be. Mexico, you know, yeah. London time change, I guess. Yeah, you do it at London. London feels like the moon. Yeah, because you do it one o'clock Super Bowl. You make it a night game in London. and then an afternoon kickoff in America.
Starting point is 02:01:36 Yeah. They go for that old school. If you made it like an 8 o'clock or 9 o'clock game in London, that would be three in the East Coast. Yeah. Maybe the TV part is why maybe they wouldn't do that. That's my biggest hang up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:51 It's just, it's tough with the TVs. Yeah. And then also the promising for, that's, you look at the let, there's 12 new stadiums that are being built. Didn't Miami just lose their, rotation to be in the Super Bowl? Did you see that?
Starting point is 02:02:05 Oh, I didn't see that. Did they? I think they got knocked out of the like the regular rotation. But 11 of those 12 are indoor facilities, indoor stadiums. Yeah. The only one that's not is Buffalo. Are they getting one? They're not getting one. What? They're not getting a school, were they? Buffalo. No, they probably won't
Starting point is 02:02:23 because of that. But that's why all these teams are trying to get the indoor Chicago, Minnesota, like even Kansas City. Chicago going indoors with that new one? I hate that. I just hate it. Everyone talks about the NFL turning more to basketball and all this with the rule changes.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Look at the venues, man. On top of the rule changes. Play everything indoor. The elements are part of football. Yeah, but I don't know. You start getting these gambling things involved. A lot of people are pissed off about that Denver pets matchup because of that weather. I think Denver, are they getting an indoor stadium?
Starting point is 02:02:59 Are they? I don't know. Their stadium is relatively new. Well, so was the Titans. 20 years. The Titans are getting a brand new indoor stadium. That's going to be sick. They got the same,
Starting point is 02:03:09 they got a stadium the same year as the Patriots, same stadium. It's crazy to think Gillette's kind of old, Matt, like. Yeah, it's 25, 25 years. Yeah, they said Miami's, they're ineligible. Don't ever, Mr. Kraft.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Don't ever build a dome. Seriously. Don't. It was big when you guys went to turf. You weren't there, though, right? It was before you when they switched the turf? No. You were there when they switched?
Starting point is 02:03:32 No. It was always turf when I've been there was like a bad playoff game against the Jets and they're like, fuck this shit. We're putting turf. Yeah. Anyway. Did you compare? Wow. You should ask this one.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Okay. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Talk about bird watching. Hey now. Did you compare? That is a great one.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Did you compare your pee to the urine charts in the locker room on a regular basis? Or did you guys have the charts? Just to check your hydration. Yeah. You had charts on all your urinals. Being a good teammate. I was like, you're not a good teammate if you're yellow. You essentially know with the color your pee hit.
Starting point is 02:04:08 I was always a very hydrated guy. Yeah. What's the weirdest color you've ever had? Oh, dude. Close to brown, bro. We're talking earth tone stuff. Yeah. An ombre.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Ombra. Yeah. It was not a, but very rarely. That was before I got introduced to liquid IV. That was way before. Training camp is when you can sometimes get the dark pee. Yeah. And that's why they do it because, you know,
Starting point is 02:04:32 You go out and say it's 92 degrees, full padded practice, like 80% humidity. It gets pretty not like Florida humidity, but it gets humid in the Northeast. You can lose 12 pounds. You can lose 12 pounds of water. So you have to drink, I think, 12 ounces for every pound you lose to get your pee back. That's a lot. So they monitor that with the athletes because when you're really dehymed. you're susceptible to pulling your your your hamstring soft tissue is like on high alert so that's
Starting point is 02:05:09 why the the p charts are theirs it's not like just like oh this is going to make you think correctly no this is because this guy's contract is worth 35 million dollars over five years drink some fucking water drink some water because we do not need you getting hurt in practice with something you can control. Yeah. Now it's a meaningful chart. Yeah. All right. What's a T chart?
Starting point is 02:05:36 We used, guys, we get so mad with the P charts. Because we used to have to pee in a cup for hydration. If you were on like the list, like, because they'll monitor you and then they'll, like, for the first, like, week. And then they'll kind of have a database of who is a non-hydrator and who is. Who's an official non-hydrate. Yeah, and so then you can put in the program for non-hydration. So, like, usually some of the big guys, you know, they got to go in or like a guy that, you know, pull the hamstring. They have to show their, they got to, they got to like go and prove that they're hydrated.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Here's a dumb question. And you don't have to answer for, like, drug tests. Yeah. Did you have to have a spotter? What I mean? Like someone, like, actually sees your dick peeing. So when you get a drug test, depending on. testers, but you have to, there'll be two, two drug testers. You have to pull your pants down to
Starting point is 02:06:36 your legs, like, like, fully, fully exposed. Kindergarten style. Oh. We're all the way down and you're, you're got Donald Duck, your at bare ass cheeks. You have to like, sometimes depending on the tester, you, you, you, they're sitting in watching you pee. Yeah. Just to see there's any like, like, devices or anything. You have to, you have to show. You know, I think it's, they're different with each guy. Yeah. And depends on if you've had, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Yeah. Remember the Wizzinator? Remember that Ontario Smith? He had that back in the day. He got caught with the fake one. You're doing an oil change. The Wizzan, the mountain state.
Starting point is 02:07:12 What, uh, did you guys ever peek in the garden style in school back in the day? Did you? No, never, ever. Ever.
Starting point is 02:07:18 I had an older brother. I was like pretty dialed with like, like, how we were supposed to be. It's like, bro, yeah. My elementary school was really old and had asbestos everywhere. So it was literally,
Starting point is 02:07:28 I remember specifically seeing one of my friends at my newer school, kindergarten, I'm like, bro, pull up your pants. Yeah, it's like, what is this,
Starting point is 02:07:38 bro? Like fourth grade. I'm like, go through the gate dog. We, we had the fucking, our urinals were like the ones that like go all the way to the floor. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:45 You know those ones. It's like, and like I was like, I don't know if you would be aware. I was a kind of rotund kid. So I would wear shorts. The shirt is like, you wear like a 32 inch as like a,
Starting point is 02:07:55 you know, six grader. Yeah. Like those pants go really low to your knee. and they go out far. So like every time it was always like a challenge not to piss on the bottom of my shorts
Starting point is 02:08:05 because the urinal's on the fucking floor. Can we update these urinals? Oh, they tore it down. Shout out Lanzer. Oh, my God. All right. Last question. It sounds like a biohazard site.
Starting point is 02:08:15 Jeez, Louise. Oh, the faucet exploded on me. I was watching my hands. This is not dribble. Oh, goodness gracious. Last one, Guy. Yeah, you take it. Which one you like of these two?
Starting point is 02:08:28 Oh, then let's do the two. Let's do both. All right, Jules. Second to last one. Give us an NFL team that might surprise some people this year, in your opinion. Minnesota. Ooh, little kind of. I think Kyler Murray is going to do well.
Starting point is 02:08:44 They just signed Jennings. You're going to have three really good receivers. Kevin O'Connell, B-Flow on the other side. I think they're going to be dangerous. It all depends on, you know, this is a great opportunity for Kyler Murray to be one of those guys. the Sam Darnold, the Baker Mayfield, fresh start, new ecosystem, kind of cornered animal mentality.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Like, this is your shot. You know, it's either going to, and so I, and I think Kyler, he's short, but he can, he can make every throw. He throws a ball over a middle for a smaller guy, and he has elite legs. He's got a little quickness, you know. And it, with Kevin O'Connell,
Starting point is 02:09:28 I think Kyler's a smart guy I know there's all the shit on he plays the video games he doesn't study but I think he's genuinely like one of those kids that gets bored with homework and shit probably back in the day
Starting point is 02:09:42 or like he was probably it was probably pretty easy for him he seems like a smart kid yeah you know so he had the luxury of playing video games because he you know I don't know I just think
Starting point is 02:09:52 I think him Justin Jefferson Addison Juan Jennings who's our, TJ, who, who, who, Hawkinson, Hawkinson. He was, T.J. Housman's out of it. They got out of.
Starting point is 02:10:04 And they're just picked up Jennings. Jennings. That's a great signing. They have, they have, if they can, they can get it going. That's their running back. Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones. He's getting there.
Starting point is 02:10:16 He's, you know, he's got some, he's got some miles, but he's, he knows how to play. Yeah. They probably pick someone, they pick someone up. Yeah. And Jordan Mason. Jordan's been pretty good. Aaron Jones. Yeah, he's still there.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Who did they pick up in the draft? Let me see. That's a hard division though, you know. But I think they're getting harder. They got a defensive tackle out of Florida, Caleb Banks in the first round, a linebacker at a Sincere in the second round. They went defense heavy on the first three. What they were in free agency?
Starting point is 02:10:49 Let me see. They moved on from their GM this spring too. So I'm sure there was a little bit of. John Jennings was the big one. Shured up the defense a little bit. bit signed James Pierre Thomas, Eric, a lot on the defensive side of the ball.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Brought back Carson Wentz. No, is there any offense alignment? They drafted. Harrison Smith is retired. Yeah, he had a great career. Shut out Harrison Smith. What a long time. Smart football player.
Starting point is 02:11:19 I think on the AFC side, I think the charges are super. Really? With Mike McDaniel. I mean, I'm excited to see them too. You know, but look, they got to stay healthy. It's time.
Starting point is 02:11:34 They got to do it. You can't just be the team of potential. You got to fucking do it at some point. Year three, Harbaal, this is going to be a big year. I think he's going to get it going, but they got to stay healthy.
Starting point is 02:11:46 And run the ball with Hampton this year too. We got Hampton. They also have Naheee Harris. Gotta stay healthy. That's a big thing. That's always like the word. That's a cliched too. I know.
Starting point is 02:11:58 It is. One of those you know, hey, you know, if this if we stay healthy, we'll be good. Well, look, let me tell you something. You're not going to be healthy. You know, the teams that know how to build the depth, have good role players.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Those are the teams that usually keep it going. But I think Minnesota, and I agree with Chargers, they could be good, but I'm... They still got, like... Yeah. But I think I'm excited to see Minnesota. I want to see Kyler. Kyler went 7 and 0 year 2 with Cliff.
Starting point is 02:12:31 I don't think. it's fair to put him in the Sam Darnold conversation because Sam Darnold was kind of a bust before he got to Minnesota. Where Kyle Murray, I don't think, Kyler Murray, I don't think is a bust. I just think it didn't work out in Arizona, but he had like good seasons.
Starting point is 02:12:43 He was a great player. And he's thrown. Yeah. I think if you look at Kyler Murray, I was hearing, I think he's got the same quarterback rating as Matt Stafford since he's been in the league. You know, like,
Starting point is 02:12:55 he's an efficient guy. He just has to stay healthy too. You know, I want to see them. I think they're going to be fun. That'll be fun of the way. Drafts with a good running back out of wake to Desmond Claiborne. There you go. That could be good for the backfield.
Starting point is 02:13:06 All right. Last one. Jack. Or I'll do it. Yeah. Lay it on me. Okay. Will Tyreek Hill end up with the Chiefs this season?
Starting point is 02:13:15 I heard did he soft retire? That's what the rumors are. An inside source told us. But some chiefs insiders are saying they think it's about a 55 to 60% chance he ends up there. Yeah. That's what didn't end up inside? Like pretty like stoncy say. we've moved on from Tyree Kill.
Starting point is 02:13:33 He did say something along those lines, but I, but you know if Patrick was like, some of these, yeah. Yeah, but it's also like, you'll see in training camp. Yeah. Who, who did the, they brought a receiver in,
Starting point is 02:13:45 they brought running back, they brought Kenneth Walker in. Who did the chiefs bring in? They drafted, so they got Rishi Rice, you got Jalen Royals, they got Cyrus Allen, Xavier Worthy,
Starting point is 02:13:56 um, Tyquant Thornton. Let me see, Xavier Worth. Chattie O'Shea, Jay's their coach over there. Wait, he's with the Chiefs now? Yeah, he's a receiver coach.
Starting point is 02:14:06 Oh, shoot. I didn't even realize that. I like what they're doing, though. We'll see if Andy Reg will stick to it. They could use a little juice in that wide receiver room. Andy loves to throw the ball. Are they going to zig while everyone's eggs? Are they going to go just running the football with Kenneth Walker?
Starting point is 02:14:26 Mahomes is hurt. Grab coming back. You know, start them out slow. Yeah. Yeah, they drafted pretty heavy defensively. Well, they lost a lot of guys. I know. Lost both their corners.
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Starting point is 02:16:03 O'Donno and our podcast point game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:16:25 I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. he has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying.
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Starting point is 02:17:11 after he got his dislocated knee, no, Tyreek. Yeah. You know, so the soft retirement, I don't know. I don't either. I just doesn't feel quite right. I could also just be like not wanting to go to training camp. Yeah. Veteran move. Could be. Also heard Mahomes is where he had a schedule too.
Starting point is 02:17:26 I did. My story came out. I mean, I definitely, you expected that with Pat. But, uh, I'll see him next week at a golf thing. Golf tournament. Which will be this week. This week. It'll be this week.
Starting point is 02:17:40 Or next week. Give him that GM. You have just come back from it. You have been back from it. I'll give him the GM touch. How great was it? I'll grab his leg. Let me show the name. Justin Fields brought him in there. Yeah. That's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 02:17:55 But Tyreek, man, he's a super freak. He could come back from this. Agreed. Yeah. I mean, Tyree, he'll 80% is still probably faster than 80% of the league. And no offense to those guys, but better than a lot of what they got in that room. Eh, eh, I don't mean to disparage.
Starting point is 02:18:13 They do, they get a tight end. Didn't they get a tight end? I thought they drafted a tight end. I think it's Travis Kelsey. No, they had trial. I know, I know. But I think they drafted one too. They have, uh,
Starting point is 02:18:23 Noah Gray, Jared Wiley, Jake Baringstool, and Trey Watson. They didn't draft them? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
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Starting point is 02:18:49 Oh, my brain fog is gone. Let's go. Fully hydrated. That's a great flavor. I've never really had that one. Mango, pineapple. Sugar-free. Feels very tropical.
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