Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules - Vince Wilfork's Best Patriots Stories

Episode Date: June 28, 2026

Vince Wilfork shares his favorite Patriots stories with Julian Edelman, including talking the iconic butt fumble, Tom Brady prank wars, and Bill Belichick.Support the show: https://hoo.be/dudesondudesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. Welcome to games with names. I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation highlight reel starting now. Now, Vince Wilford breaks down the iconic butt fumble. We got to dive into this moment, though. And the funny thing is we started this episode by talking about two gap. Yes. And that right there is the definition of two gap is when you blow them up so much

that it runs the runner into the bus. blocker. That's like, that's called recreating the line of scrimmage. Oh yeah. Like, give us beat for beat. Well, it's fight pressure with pressure, right? So it's like, you know. So pressure with pressure, meaning the offensive line guys pushing pressure at one direction on Big V trying to probably wall them off in a certain direction. So Big V's got to put that pressure against that because he wants to attack that area. Right, right. You want to always fight pressure with pressure because that kind of tell you where the ball is supposed to go. And like I say, on that play, honestly, you know, Nick didn't come directly at me

aggressive and Brandon didn't come to me directly, you know, aggressive. So I was stuck like, okay, who to attack? Remember, right? I have two gaps. So who would attack? I can't attack this guy and be out of gap. And I can't attack this guy because so in that millisecond, it's like I had to make a decision.

So if you see, I was basically in the middle of that gap with both of them and trying to understand. And once Nick, I felt Nick kind of leave, I knew then, I had to fight back. And Brandon, it was on my shoulder. So that's why it's like, I kind of trying to get my arms back and press. And once I press, that's why I bow before my happen, because I guess that gap closed fast enough for Sanchez. And he didn't realize how fast it was closing. So that's what happened on that play, brother. Did you feel Mark Sanchez run into the, the offense alignment through you or no? No.

I just felt once I press, Brandon felt, and then when I looked up, the ball was gone, I'm like, oh, fumble, you know, but I didn't know he ran into his butt and fumble like that. You know, I had no idea.

Can you imagine being that strong? Listen, listen, 300, and we'll say in conservatively, 45 pounds. That's perfect. Other side, 300, probably at most 315. Mm-hmm.

So the pounds of pressure, that these two men are literally trying to kill each other for. And Big V is so strong, another 215 pounds hits that and he doesn't feel it. You got to be fucking strong for that. And that's what, like, I just remember Big V would, I would see Big V come in the weight room and just put as many plates as you can see on the thing, do his like four sets and then just dip out. Go on and bin. Like that's how strong that.

You got to be fucking strong. strong to do that. That's a real man right there. That's a man's man's man, baby. Now, Vince Will Fork and Jules share their favorite Belichick stories. One bone to pick, though. Uh-oh. I want to hear this one. Now, can you at least

confess that Bill is way softer on fucking defensive guys than offensive guys? And you want to know how I know because he would come up and ask us questions like on Wednesdays, he'd always test us, right? He'd always test us both offense and defense in front of each other.

look over at me. Edelman, what coverage is this and this this? He looked over at V. A, V, what color is the team we're playing? No, that's not true. I don't think. But see, we thought, because you got to understand, Bill used to come into our meetings. When he leaves squad and all that, he would come in there with us and grill us. Yeah. So our question answering, he might not give it to us all in a team meeting, but he'll leave that meeting.

When we break up an individual, he'll come in there and grill us with questions. Hey, Big V, we're playing Derek, Derek Henry this week. Is this a run or pass team? He's just saying shit like, I'm not even joking, bro. I'm sitting there, they're asking us scheme this, this, this. They're like, is this team coach like to throw it or run it? I'll tell you what, the first, I'll tell you a funny story with Bill and me, right? So my rookie year, we, I think we in, we in many camps or something like that.

that and he's asking questions and I mean he's going around and he's asking like layup questions right so he get to me he said Vince what is memorial day so I'm like man I don't know if there's a trick question not so I was like barbecue he said no you a hole what is it I'm like that's what we do barbecue man when I tell you bill couldn't do nothing but laugh he could do it because I I'm like, what are you asking me? I'm like, it's a trick question. What are you asking me? So he went on to tell everybody about Memorial Day and I'm like, hey, man.

I'm like, be a coach. I thought you was asking me what we do on Memorial. He said, no, I know, you asshole. I'm talking about that, that. I'm like, my bad. That was my first question from Bill. And that's how I answered it. The first question.

And he had a little jolly smile. Oh, yeah. That was a smirk. An offensive guy. Oh, asshole. You guys got out of him. No, no. When he used to ask a grunt question, we would laugh.

If grunt knew what or didn't know, we would laugh. And he would laugh. So it's like, he would. But I truly believe with Bill, and when it came to me, I can truly think that I think Bill was testing me early on in my career on my knowledge of the game. I really was. And I appreciate him so much for doing that. he taught me so much about football in the game itself.

You know, a lot of questions that he would, you got to understand, when I was a rookie, our defense-aligned, we was in charge of knowing quarterback pivots, the route tree, blocking schemes, cadence, motions. We had to know all of that. Which gives you an advantage because if you know the concepts, you know that the quarterback's got to get the full up.

Like, yes, we... Which a lot of... It's crazy to me that teams don't do that. That's... But Bill stopped. I think we were the last class that came in that he did that to. But I think, looking back now, I think he was just basically trying to see how smart in my football IQ was because in Bill, my bill is thinking three, four steps ahead.

Yeah. He's like, let me see. I'm going to test and see what he knows. And I proved to him that I know the game of football, you know? And I think that that... allow us to do a lot defensively scheme-wise with me knowing what's going on not only from a defense standpoint but you know the back end from the defense and offensively what they're trying to create and build through formations and this and that so it was like a not only we had you know

the secondary if it was Rodney or if it was deaf with the calls you know we had our linebackers with the calls now he have trust that okay i know vince would be able to get calls out, get us lined up up front. And it allowed us to play so much faster as a defense. And I, you know, I credit all of that to build because how he taught me the game. I thought I knew the game, but, you know, sitting down having a conversation with him, you know right away, like, I don't know much about what I think I do. So, you know, I always think all up because he meant a lot to me,

not only in my personal life and the friendship we have and we built over the years, but as a coach, what he was allowed to coach and teach me, that's why I became the player I became. And that's why I moved from nose tackle to a defensive tackle to an end and then I can flop to go to this side. So I didn't do, I didn't play a nose tradition like any other two gap nose because Bill had the luxury of moving, moving me in different positions, and I can produce it those positions.

So it just allowed us as a team in defense to manipulate a lot of play calling from my offense and start seeing the point, you know, because they never knew what I was going to be, you know. And a lot of it is common sense, though, which is, all right, take best defensive alignment, put him on worse offense alignment, and may not be in traditional spot, but that's weakness. And then you win, you know what I mean? Like, well, you, but like, it's crazy.

Like, I watch a lot of these defenses and I'm like, are we, we, I guess we're just that much smarter because I was out, I'm sitting here and then I was talking to Antonio Gates. We did a show together. And he doesn't realize that I was in seventh grade when he was talking about the game that he was playing. I'm like, I wasn't in this game. The whole time he keeps on talking to me, how the fuck we lose these patrons. And it hits to me like, it's because.

Because we were, like, what you're talking about. We were the smartest football team by far. Yeah, yeah, we were. We always was. You know what I mean? Like, it wasn't just no, your position. You knew the rhyming reason why you were doing what you were doing. Yeah.

It's a lot of times I lined up and I knew we had teams where first player of the game, I'm lined up somewhere opposite in those because office line was said. You know, I got a lot of old crap. Didn't realize I was going to be over there. So now I know, okay, now I'm playing with your scheme because, everything you prepare for, it's not it. So now you have to go back to the drawing board and you have to figure out, okay, where events are going to be,

what they're going to be playing. We thought it was going to be this. But now, but, yeah, I remember, like, a lot of offensive linemen like, oh, crap, you over here? What are you doing over here? Yeah. To screw your play up. Simple as that.

Now, a guy you played with on those defenses is now the head coach of the New England Patriots, Mike Vrable. Love it. What are your thoughts on that? I love it. You know, and the thing is I had the luxury to be a player with Mike. And in Houston, he was a linebacker's coach.

So coach for Mike, I mean, play for Mike. And I always knew since the time, our playing days, that he was going to be a head coach. I always knew that. I mean, he was a coach. Like, no doubt in my mind that was going to happen. And I love that move because he's going to get the best out of everybody. Yeah. And he's very smart when it comes to the game of football.

he knows exactly what he's doing he know how he know how he wants to deliver messages he's outspoken if he believe in something he believe in it if he don't like something he'll tell you I mean he'll speak his mind but at the same time

the respect that he receives is because what he pour out so I think we're in good hands with Mike I really do believe we're going to do we're going to do some wonders this year I mean we're going to sell a different football team this year. And I'm expecting for us to shock a lot of people, you know, just because of I know Mike as a person and the player and the coach. I've already known him. I know it. And they spend money.

Yeah. They're going to spend, guess what? He ain't for the highest hand. If he wants somebody, he's going to let it be know, we need this player. I don't want him. We need them. He'll tell him, you know, and that's what I love about him. He's a player's coach. But at the same time, he's disciplined. he's going to have a smart football team. Not going to make a lot of dumb mistakes. And they're going to play hard for him. They're going to play hard for him. So I'm excited about it.

I'm happy that, you know, we did get Mike, you know, if that was the choice. I love that we went and grabbed him because I think he'll do wonders for us. Yeah. You think these teams are going to look more like our old teams? Yeah. In some capacity, yeah. I think one of the main things we want to get is the competitiveness in an aggressive play. I think in a smart team.

know, so you're going to see, we're going to look, we're going to look apart. We're going to look like we know what we're doing. You know, the past four or five years, we didn't look like that. You know, the past four or five years, you know what we looked like? We looked like teens we used to talk about. Yeah. Like, how you do that? That's how we used to look.

I don't think we'll look like that. Special teams, this, time. We're going to be coached very, very well and hard. And we're going to play hard. What's the difference between raves as a coach and a player? Really nothing. Really nothing. That's why when I played with him, he's the same guy as a coach thing when I played with him.

You got to understand, I've seen Vrae, him and Tom Brady go at it on the sideline or practicing. You know, I've seen Brave raves walking out a quarterback's meeting with Tom. I've seen Braves and Tom walking down the hallway with a playbook talking about this. I've seen Vraib and Tom talking about skiing. I saw and I heard Ray tell Tom that would never work against this guy. I've seen it. Like, sort of respect Tom gave him for input in what he was trying to do. That tells you everything.

What was the worst thing you ever heard Coach Frable say to Tom? I mean, it got F you, F you, no F you. Nothing was off limits. Yeah, F bombs was always a part of it. He didn't care who you, a bill, get F bombs. brave man look here when i tell you when mike believe in something he's gonna stand firm in it

and he's gonna tell you why that's what i love about it was he a smart shit talker yeah he was yeah so he like pulled something out of the cuddies i've been on the field with with a call come in and braise he'll shake a head this not gonna work i've been in the huddle with him that or when we in the meeting room that's not going to work and he'll tell you why he was so smart as a player

it was just you would never believe that he was a linebacker the way he saw the game he saw it as a head coach scenario situation he's seen it as a head coach as a player now this just popped it in my head do you think bill liked rabble more than you because he let him play offense

and gave him a touch top pass that's one thing I regret with bill like come on bill like and the crazy thing is pullback but the thing is he did see more he let see more line on up in the back field. So I'm like, man, listen, no, no shade towards anybody, but I was the best, I was the best athlete on the, on the defense.

Hands down. Tell them. Straight up. I returned kicks in high school. I kicked the ball in high school. I did. I played every position you could possibly name on on the field. One position I would never play its center.

But I tried it and I hated it. Yeah. But I played every position. Like, I played basketball. I dunk basketball. I did all of that. I was the greatest pound for pound athletes on the pages. I mean, Jamie Collins pretty tight, but listen here,

a guy my size to do what I did, come without for the play this. I played lineback. I dropped in cover like I could do all of that. And you could dance. I could dance. Like a ballerina. I could dance.

My footwork was good. That's what people don't realize you're 345 pounds and you could move like a ballerina. So for me not to be on the offensive side of the ball when I see a lot of guys, not just from us, but other teams, you know, putting their guys in the background that, you know, have some athleticism to them, you know, that was kind of bombed out for me. Now, would that be a perfect moment to use if Bill, you saw Bill, muffo? Oh, I hit him with that. You hit him with that. Yeah, you muoful.

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of Tom Brady and Matt Castle's prank war. You remember when it was Matt Castle and Tom going back and forth? I wasn't around for that. Oh my gosh. What happened? They was going back and forth pranking each other. So I think Matt filled Tom Carl for all of these little bubbles. The peanuts.

So Tom took his tires. And hit him everywhere. And hit him. So he had three tires and still was looking for one. It was in the bubble. So Bill finally was like, look, guys, just stop screwing around. Yeah, you're putting too much playing. It's getting out of the trouble.

Just kidding. So Bill had to put a stop to it. Man, he was going for weeks. He was going. Dude, they were, I mean, I'm like, dude, when I tell you, some of my most funnest times in life is on a football field and in the locker room. Oh, 1,000%. So people always ask me, do you miss the game?

I'm like, no, you know, I miss my time. teammates in the locker room and the fans. That's what I miss. I don't miss the game itself. I miss the camaraderie just hanging out in the locker room two or three hours after we finish and just sitting down and drinking and getting ready and just hanging out in the locker room. Next, Vince Wilford gives us his Mount Rushmore of the U. Who's on your Mount Rushmore of Miami Hurricanes? Man, that's so hard. Like, because we have so many great players. My first and foremost I put on is Ed Reed.

Ed Reed. You know, Ed Reed is, he's a staple of a hurricane. And I would go Jerome Brown. Jerome Brown. J.B. He was like the one that started the defensive tackle trend. And then it's like you have to, I mean, Ray, right? I mean, Ray.

And then, of course, it's like you got Andre Johnson. Like, pick him, Andre Johnson, Michael Irvin, who you want to send? Like, pick one of them. I know. It's tough. You know, even with defensive tackles, you still got Warren Sapp out there. You got Cortez-Kinney out there. You got Russell Malley out there.

So, like, you can't go wrong because the amount of players we had and the careers they had. One thing I always loved about us, University of Miami, being in the NFL, is the longevity we had in the NFL. Oh, yeah. We have longevity with guys tend. in 11, 12 plus years, the durability. Look at Frank Gore. I mean, Frank Gore. I mean, Willis McGill, like, just look at Frank, for instance.

It's like, man, his career. Spectacular. And I'm going to tell you just like the year. When I seen Frank as a freshman, I didn't know how good he was. I just knew he was good. He was decent, right? But I didn't know how really good he was until he got a chance to get to the league and show that thing all over the year.

and now he's one of the top leading rushes everywhere. He's going to be a Hall of Fame. Yeah. And mind you, he was a third back, third string behind Clinton, behind Willis McGehy. Yeah. And then it was Frank. And we all on one team. It's crazy.

I mean, I remember when you guys won that Natty in 01. Ken Dorsey. That's right. Dorsey. Ken Dorsey, he was from my area. And we went to the same quarterback coach because I was playing quarterback. And he, like, that was like, how was it winning a Natty? Well, the thing is, when we won that Nadi, you know, it was always big talk about Nebraska and their tradition and this and that other.

And I'm like, we went to the Disney, Disneyland, whatever it was, Disney World out there. And they were looking at us like we were gods. And we knew then we was going to beat their heads in because they were looking at us like they seen a ghost. Yeah. Holy crap. Not yet. So we knew going into that, we was going to beat the dog. crap out of. We knew that.

Our toughest game getting to that was, you know, we had to scare BC and then the Virginia Tech game when we got us to the Rose Bowl. They almost got you. But yeah. I mean, it was, um, but the Nadi itself, no, man, no match. No match.

No match. Whatsoever. Is that one of the top in, uh, college football teams of all the time? Absolutely. It is. It is. The best. The best. I don't care who you pair. I don't care. Name it. Who are some of the top of the college football teams of all time? I, absolutely. I, it is it. Go and do this roster. The USC 2004, 24, 2225.

It wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter. What about some of the earlier Miami teams? Only they say that 80. 88. 80. 80. They think the 80, one of the eight, I think it's the 88 or 86.

One of 88, 86, whatever. They think that I'm like, no. Because what we had, well, we had depth. You have to understand, I was a backup. Yeah. You still have a backup. Man, that tells you all the depth you need to know. So it's like, it didn't matter.

Like, when we took one guy out and one going in, we didn't miss a beat. Yeah. So, you know, now you have guys that, if one guy got out the field, it's like everything go to crap. Not us. Like, we had guys rolling in that can go start at any other college there is. It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for. Why do I watch the walk up?

That's like asking me, why do I breed? And it's beautiful. eyes are young and cute and fit. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this

is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. Listen to American Football on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joy is essential and it's also elusive.

But now, there's a new an exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and

moving on-air chats. Open your free I-Heart Radio app. Search Joy 101 and listen now. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby is presented by CVS. My first guest is Terence Hilton, Shaquita,

Luke and Yarin. Have surprises? Many surprises. Welcome to the Sweet 305 podcast where the group check comes to life. What on? You're the only person I know that loves a yellow starburst.

It's lemonade. This is Sweet 305. Here, oversharing is encouraged. Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons on the IHard Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone sees me as a football player, but before anything else, I'm human.

Every single day, still learning how to live with problems, mistakes, relationships, emotions ever since I was born. This isn't a normal podcast. Everything here is spontaneous, real and genuine, just honest conversations about what it means to be alive. I'm Javier Tchariot Hernandez and listen to Learning to Be Human on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.