Dumb Blonde - Bam Margera Turns a Page

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

This week, legendary skateboarder and Jackass star Bam Margera gets candid about battling addiction and embracing sobriety. He opens up about the "Florida Shuffle" he endured in rehab, as well as the legal battles we've both seen and not seen reported in the news. Bam also reflects on life after skyrocketing to fame with Jackass in the early 2000s. Joining Bam for the raw conversation is his model fiancée Dannii Marie, to share her own perspective on their chance meeting in LA and travels across the country together that have brought them to this new chapter.Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comBam Margera: IG See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today we have the one the only bam margera and his girlfriend danny marie what's up guys i know so excited to be here i think she says the f-bomb more than me i do i i am constantly cussing people get so mad at me they're like why do you say fuck i said because intelligent people cuss that's what we do yeah i love it it's like my favorite word when i heard your first podcast

i'm like oh this is gonna be fun i don't have to think before i say that word i love that what have you guys been up to bam what have you guys been doing we've actually been on the road um we met eight months ago and about six of the months we've been all over the place texas new mexico florida south carolina indiana made our way down here um and uh we've just been enjoying the road trip we have two dogs and uh and soon we'll be making our way to california but we have been booking a lot of comic cons and horror cons just because um you know we've been doing so well at them and i've been in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle you could call the Guinness Book

because it was like two and a half years at $660,000. Yeah, we're going to get into that later because I did research a little bit of that. And I'm telling you right now, I preach it on my podcast nonstop. The mental health system in America is fucking broken. Whacked. And especially in Florida.

Yeah, it's so bad. I want to let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here, you've literally had like a smile on your face. And that makes me happy because, you know. Why wouldn't I? Look at this eye candy. Dude, I was hitting on her when you walked out. I was like, hey, baby, you are fine, girl.

We are fine girls in here. You manifested her, though. I heard on an interview that you manifested her. Tell me about that. Well, I was pretty much, I checked into the Sunset Marquee in Los Angeles right on Hollywood Boulevard. I was just over everything.

I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that is never ending. I'm just spending all my money on that. I just got three of my credit cards stolen and they all racked up $20,000 on each one. The last one was a stripper from Spearmint Rhino who racked up $20,000 in a nightclub in one night. How

do you do that? That means every valet don't know those guys, but I'll pay for them. Don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottles. How? $20,000 in one night at one nightclub? Come on. I worked at a strip club so that's very easy as a bartender you can get all your girlfriend's drinks and there there's the 20k so so when i checked in i i got a whole bunch of drugs and i was like i i really just

don't even care to wake up and if i do f you god so the next morning i'm like man i'm awake fuck i'm like all right i going to go to the pool bar. God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pit bull and A cup tits. Because my prior girlfriends, they always talked me into buying these fake boobs. And they were always rocks. And they always say that they'll settle down within a year. And then three years goes by.

I'm like, they're still rocks. I want to chop them off. them properly so um when i went to the pool bar i ordered a drink of course and i overhear somebody talking uh listen i'm 43 years old i was born in jersey i'm sicilian and irish i'm like and i look over i'm like wow who's sicilian irish i'm sicilian irish i was born in philly over the bridge who are you she's like i'm a stretch coach i'm like and she's like i have to go home and walk my dogs what kind of dog a tan pit bull i'm like thank you god i've been saved and i was on a mission um and and you know the doctor told me in 2013 that my legs were like dry rotted rubber bands from alcohol abuse

and he was pretty much like good luck trying to skateboard again which is what my passion was i've been pro since i was 17 and um because of that it just made me drink more so when i met her she's like don't listen to him at all i stretch you an hour a day and you're gonna get your legs back and sure enough they're like 100 again every day first thing first thing we do is stretch walk the dogs and then i'm out looking for a skate spot yeah that's what i heard what was your your first impression of this hot mess over here? A hot mess? We were actually looking at photos today. I don't even, I mean, I don't, I mean, it's so hard to even say how it connected.

But it was, I was invited by somebody who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know. And later found out it wasn't the best crowd. But I showed up by myself. My friend Heather, call her out. She couldn't make it that day, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know. And later found out it wasn't the best crowd, but I showed up by myself. My friend Heather, call her out. She couldn't make it that day, but that's okay. I went alone and, you know, I didn't know anybody. And she sent me this text that was like, celebrities are here.

I hate that, of course. My mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself because I lived in Koreatown, couldn't find parking. It was a disaster. So to leave your house in Koreatown is a big deal. You to take an uber it's just anywhere in fucking LA is a nightmare dude so I'm like is it really worth going like she's already dropped a celebrity name like who knows if whatever so my mom's like well you didn't go to LA to stay in bed blah blah blah so she put a little firecracker in my ass yeah so I got dressed put on my little LA hat and then I went

to the pool party and of course how some girls can be they weren't you know being very friendly once this one and I started talking I do remember him coming kind of coming over but I was alone blindfolded and just wasn't really wanting to date at the time I just got out of something really shitty did you know who he was I remember like they were like bam Margera's here I'm like bam I'm like you know they're like oh jackass like okay but we're are the same age so it wasn't like i was really watching it every day like right i hate to bring up ridiculousness but how it's like constantly on the tv you know you can't get away from it so i knew but i didn't really know you know the whole story type of fam right so when

we when we interacted um you know the girls as they know who they are had kind of like pushed me towards him because they weren't being bullish but they weren't being friendly because the one girl had taken a shower with him the day before oh so did you even remember that bam yeah i did okay because he was fucked up so you gotta ask because i did a lot of shit when i was fucked up that i don't remember. Right. So basically, they just. His face is turning three shades of red right now. I don't think I've ever seen you blush. He admitted it.

I mean, at least he told me. And I'm like, OK, well, are y'all like dating? Because I'm single. It's LA. Like, whatever. And we just had fun. Like, we ended up going. I can't even tell you where.

It was just some little place in LA. It was like a strip club of some sort that was completely packed. Were you using then? Or were you sober? No, I haven't even tell you where. It was just some little place in LA. It was like a strip club of some sort that was completely packed. Were you using then or were you sober? No, I haven't. Okay. So we'll get into all that, but I was a drinker. I mean, I've had my share of things. I've been a model since I was 14. So I've definitely partied, lived in Vegas, lived in LA. But for me, I won Miss Bikini. I went through, okay. So 2019, I had an ankle surgery, which was mortifying. I lost my 14-year-old dog. And then a almost 10-year relationship ended all within like a year.

So I went through a really bad time. I was drinking a little too much, started drinking more. And then I started getting sick, like literally sick. And in the hospital, I was getting alcohol poisoning is what was happening. I just didn't want to tell anybody that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening. Cause you're like binge drinking. Yeah. It was just like, you know, Rose starts at 10 AM and then before you know it, it's eight o'clock at night. And you know, it's just sounds like a good time. Yeah. Bad. Just, I was going down a bad, bad path. I was getting, after the breakup, I hung out with the wrong guy. He was younger than me and I started

doing bad things again and then just really nipped it in the butt and just had to break up with a lot of people. So I ended up entering a bikini contest and didn't realize how intense it was, but I was already in it. I couldn't pull out. I wanted to because it was like I'd rather just have another cocktail and go whatever. So I ended up placing fifth and I stayed serious that whole like four months of training for the bikini. So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely. So I really haven't been drinking since 2021. But when I went out to LA, it was like a couple drinks here and there. But then I, you know, you're not drinking a couple drinks will get you buzzed. So that was the day like

I was in an eff it mood, fuck it mood, whatever. So I was drinking at the pool that day yeah and we had a great time the connection was obviously there because as a person you know and alcohol helped me kiss him a little bit you know make out bandit we were facetiming Jessica she still committed to the gym at 5 a.m the next day dropped a 40 pound weight on her toe I broke my foot basically oh my god I like shattered the toe and then I wake up the next day and I'm like, damn, I think I made out with Bam. Like I woke up like the dogs are like, where were you for seven hours? So I woke up feeling rough. And then I just, I remember like wanting him to call.

Like I really wanted him to call. I was like, oh, it's already four o'clock. He hasn't called yet. That's weird. So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Koreatown. And of course the phone rings and he's like not from my phone because the stripper stole it as well as my credit card so I called randomly from a number that had South Carolina area code

which is where she's from yeah I grew up in Charleston so I'm like where are you poor Bam Bam got his his card stolen his phone stolen I don't even know if you know this, but then I saw this psychic lady who basically told me to be a yes man, say yes to everything. So I'm going to see my shop. Don't tell Bam that. I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station

in Vista, California, because my phone died and I didn't know how to get to his house. So I had to charge it in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up these M13 gangsters with their tattoos, face and everything, they go, yo, you banned from Jaggeds? I'm like, yeah. They're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes. And they're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo? I'm like, yes. They're like, yo, man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block and we're cracking jokes. And then I park at the gas station knowing that my phone's still charging

and I'm like hang on guys I leave the car running I'm like I gotta go get my phone they're like all right cool so I go in I'm like hey ma'am could I get my phone they're like she's like I gave it to your friend I'm like what friend I'm from Pennsylvania I don't have any friends here she's like I gave it to somebody but you gave my phone away I was forced to call 9-1-1 so three cop cars pull up and I guess they were all larried up on whatever but they thought it was for them so they took my car as the police show up not knowing that it's for me and my phone it had nothing to do with them this guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs and apparently he had guns and drugs on him so he took my car i walk out there's three helicopters in the sky and i hear from officer bentley i'll never forget bentley's been crashed in the house i'm like awesome and i didn't want to press charges because i don't need these

guys after yeah i tagged i'm at the vista skate park next thing you know i'm gonna drive by shooting so ate the cash on that as well oh i had no idea about that so why does why does why do you think this shit happens to you all the time bam because i listened to a lady to say yes to everything that day there has to be some level of discernment in your gut though you got to be like no maybe i shouldn't be riding around with these guys i don't understand that one it was just like she just said it so the first thing that just say yes to everything. Yo, Bam, can we get a photo? Yes.

What was her point in this? I would love to talk to her and just be like, what was your point? Why do you think telling Bam Margera to say yes? She's one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my card. Oh my gosh. Was she a stripper psychic? No, she was a psychic. And then the stripper was next and then a buddy.

Was the psychic in the strip club? He had a tiny no it was not okay so they're totally unrelated my buddy was recording at sun studios in memphis at elvis's place and he had a small bill to pay like three grand so i gave him my credit card information because the label was going to pay it back he gets so drunk that night that he spends 20 grand on sunglasses and jackets on my card and doesn't remember doing it it sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people well he was and he's so broke i think he has a payment plan of like 50 a month which will take eternity to pay off well that's why you're attracted to bam because bam is funny all of the time yeah it's never a dull moment with with him and it was like that you know people always you, you know, he's not drinking anymore,

but he's just elevated and it's just funnier that we want him drinking. But he's not like a bad drunk. I mean, he's fun. He just gets funnier. Yeah. So that's where the attraction definitely happened. I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl or whomever you're with? Yeah, that makes you smile.

Oh, I love funny guys. That's why I married my husband. Yeah. So like he just, I just, we died rolling all night long. And I just makes you smile. Oh, I love funny guys. That's why I married my husband. Yeah, so like he just, I just, we died rolling all night long. And I just remember like really wanted him to call the next day. And then once he called and said,

do you want to go for pizza at the Rainbow Room? I'm like, the Rainbow Room has pizza? He's like, it's the best pizza. That's Jay's favorite fucking place. So if we're ever in LA, I'll call you guys. Because Jay, last time for the Grammys, he went and rented out the Rainbow Room and got shit-faced and then swam in the pool

or swam in the fucking fountain at the fucking Beverly Hills, whatever the fuck we were at. So on our first date, I really wanted to know, but I was just doing small talk. I'm like, I just gotta know, how are your teeth so perfectly?

She's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick. I'm like, rock and roll, I love you. That was after he had tortured me in a funny way for two days. I know how to handle somebody like you and your fucking. Yeah, I was like, I can keep up with you. It was cute. It was just like the rainbow room pizza. And then honestly, Bunny, like, it just, I never laughed.

That's how it happens. That's how Jay and I were. Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection, it's just like, it's like fireworks. And you guys are just together i was in my turmoil of being over and i was ready to just check out i didn't care unless and that's i i knew she was the run right away and i asked what happened to her she's like i had to flee the scene in miami i was dating a professional baseball player who was very abusive and i just packed up the dogs and i just hit the road and la was my destination

and um you know he saw a photo of us weekly holding hands in a little tablet thing with a purple dress on. He's like, I'm coming out there. I'm going to find you and hunt you down. And I believe that he died of a fentanyl overdose in Texas on the way here. Oh my gosh.

Yeah, so she just knew that if she stayed in that relationship, it was not going to end well. Yeah, he wasn't a good guy. How long were you guys together for? It was, you know what, if we ever write a book, it'll just going to end well. Yeah. He wasn't a good guy. How long were you guys together for? It was, it was, you know what? If we ever write a book,

it'll just be the booty call gone bad. Oh, fuck. That's the worst. It was like the first guy I slept with in nine years. So it was just like, wait, you didn't have dick for nine years. I was with somebody.

Oh, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. I was like, wait a second. How did that work?

But he was like the first after the last, after the X. So it was just, you know, he was a professional baseball player and it was just, you know, he was a professional baseball player. And he just was, you know, rest his soul because we don't want to send bad energy in the air. But he was like dating multiple women who one of them I'm not friends with. At the funeral, all the girls were like, who are you and why are you here?

Well, I'm her boy. For how long? Nine months. What about you? Nine years. What about you? Two years. What about you?

That's how athletes are though. Athletes, musicians. Like that's the whole, you know, that's the whole game i'm surprised it didn't wind up being one big brawl with a bunch of chicks but yeah he doesn't understand like sometimes the world doesn't understand that i wasn't really happy in la though because if you go back to la no offense to la i love la i lived in la when i was 19 to 20 yeah and it's just changed so i always tell everybody los angeles has lost its sparkle it really has it really back in 10 15 years ago that place was just like money glitter everywhere you know and now it's like it has no soul and another thing is like no

soul you you could barely get a one bedroom one bath with no land near the beach of Santa Monica for 4 million or whatever out here, you could have 20 acres. If you're so obsessed with the beach, just buy a nice pool, put a sandbox next to it. Yeah. Are you guys going to move to Nashville? When was the last time you needed to go to a doctor, but you pushed it off, made the excuse of I'm too busy. It'll heal on its own. I don't need help. I think we've all been there. Booking a doctor appointment can just feel so daunting, but thanks to ZocDoc, there's no reason to delay. They make it so easy to find and book a doctor who's right for you. ZocDoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high quality in-network doctors

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Me, I just need great girlfriends, some water, and some sun. Well, there's not a lot of water and a lot of sun here except for in the summertime. I'm a Vegas girl. I'm a West Coast girl, too. It took a long time for me to get adjusted here. But once I did, Nashville is like L.A. but with a soul. And it's like your peace. It's like everybody here is just so sweet and welcoming and loving.

Southern hospitality. It's so healing. That's what I love about little towns like this. And in Westchester, Pennsylvania, if you're a bartender, you're just simply happy being a bartender. If you're one in Los Angeles, you are just simply trying to make ends meet until your big break of becoming a model or an actor or whatever it is. And everybody's so fake that I just did a test with a friend because we're at a party i'm like just watch this yo man what

are you up to oh i'm actually got to do um uh jimmy kimmel uh because jackass 2 is coming out which was true and they're like dude we got to work together next person that comes up yo man what are you up to i actually just flew myself out here with my own money and i'm kind of looking for work you got anything going on uh good talking to you, pal. Like if you're up to something, they all want to be a part of it. And if you're not, then it's just, it's really fake town is what it is. No, it is. It is. It's, it's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years. So let's circle back to, um, how are Phil and, uh, April doing? How's your relationship with them um well I just realized that right now it's just a good time to just back off and and and time because they were a part of the whole

treatment thing like I got a guardian just like Britney Spears and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key put them in treatment put them in treatment and i knew that that was not the way that's the lima girl yeah and and like lima yeah and her last client amanda lab she she faked the autopsy report they did research and found out that she she died in the care of her own hands of having a seizure and i've never had a seizure in my life until i met her i went into into five of them in a row. And the last one I couldn't breathe on my own. I woke up eight days later on a fucking life support tube with COVID and pneumonia. That's wild.

So like all I knew is I had to, once you get Marchman acted or Baker acted, it usually happens in Florida. That means that you have to do 90 days in treatment. And if the interventionalist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity so because i'm like 88 days in and i'm like i get two and two more days i get out hip hip hooray then he walks in he's like you've been rocking those same shorts for like three days now i'm like yeah i'm not trying to get any pussy around here i don't care

they're like that's bad hygiene you're doing another 90 days at another place then i'll do 88 days at another place flick the cigarette out into a bush they filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke it was not on fire like you can lit the whole national forest on fire you're doing another 90 days at another place they just kept doing it and doing it doing it it's called body snatching basically insurance yeah let's toss you through yeah you know and i realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out there they will find yeah oh yeah once you're in the system so i did everything right you know we're gonna keep you here for another 90 for what i've done everything you've asked i've been here for two and a half years get me the fuck out and when i did got out i appreciated life a lot more i'm like

i'm in a car it's a convertible there's the beach i'm in a fucking starbucks outside talking to you i was in the music i had no interweb no fucking music no tv a little bit of tv but it was just terrible well let's let's rewind so you feel like you feel like april and phil had something to do with the is it was it a conservatorship that you had yeah i guess guardian ad litem but but did they hire this lady so basically where did she come from she got hired from from nikki's brother they all teamed up on me and and said that he needs to go away for a long long time they talked my parents into it by like saying uh yeah oh five hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money but if you don't write this check, you're going to be real sorry when he's six feet in the ground,

making my mom feel really bad about it. So she just got talked into this, and then Lima has such a nice voice that she could pretty much con anybody into anything. Is she an interventionalist? What do they call those people? She tried to create rehabs and stuff. If you look up her, I try not to talk about her too much

because she's listening to everything. And I don't care if she hears me today. It's about time she does. But it's if you're speaking truth. If I would have kept doing what she was making me do. And she was making me say things like, I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact. It's called a shuffle.

She's like, man, there's no such thing as a Florida shuffle. You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about. And I really went on. She like forced me to do it. Like, hey guys, I what you were talking about and i really went on she like forced me to do it like hey guys i know i was talking about the florida shuffle but i don't know anything about it or what i was talking about and i was not in the florida shuffle whatsoever lies how did she get like i was definitely in the fucking florida shuffle i was in 13 different treatment centers at 90 days a piece and one of them was 220 it's called a shuffle they kept me in there for why for no reason i already know that

alcohol is good and it's not any bad what do i have to do with the next class learned alcohol is bad it's not any good i'm very aware of that what are you going to do when you get out i'm going to sit on a white clock and fuck all y'all so nikki's nikki and her brother hired this girl yeah okay this woman and she came in and pretty much just like took over your life and completely 51 50 the answer to everything is yeah 51 50 me and uh you know is what hurts the most is that this uh chick very good friend of mine bj investigates uh it's also called the surprise witness she does a podcast surprise what she she decided to buy every 9-1-1 call of me or that i've done body cam footage every document every house i bought and sold every car she just wanted

everything and why because she just wanted to find out the truth she knows that something shady was going on and she when we looked at the body cam footage uh my aunt missy my mom they were all in on it i'm like hiding in a hotel and then all of a sudden the police show up I'm like are you in all my mom's like bam I have no idea I have no idea about it then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away she's talking to the cops like like they fucking arranged this well the aunt Missy or whoever she is was like tell him I'm not here tell when you watch it you'll cry I can't watch it because it shows betrayal from family and i can't watch it i was crying through like the third one and bj is a very good friend of ours they don't

like her because she's speaking the truth yeah and she's uncovered things that he was too fucked up to realize and and you can't deny physical body cam proof which is what she has and documented proof so she doesn't BJ doesn't know what she's talking about yes she does because she's also a lawyer in the court of law she's a lawyer she's a lawyer yeah so okay circling back I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment but that betrayal has got to be fucking traumatic yeah and if if my mom is able to say that for a whole year she's like, bam, I swear I had no idea about it. And then a year later, BJ got the body cam footage. I'm like, what do you have

to say about this? Well, Pam, we didn't know what to do. It's like, but, but you lied to me for a whole year. Like, I think you even swore on your whatever's like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. What were you using a lot then? No, because I was in treatment for two years, but as soon as I would get out, the first thing I wanted to do was that because I had no reason to stop. My kid has been taken away from me and they have no plans on arranging me a visit. I'm paying rent for my girlfriend's place. And I said, if you move to Burbank near your brainwashing brother, I'm leaving you for good. So I'm like, I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix on the planet except there.

So I sent the money. I'm like, congratulations. I heard you got a place. Where is it? She's like, Burbank. I'm like, all right, I'm leaving you. And she thought that I was fibbing. But like, the only reason that made me stop right here, she gave me the perfect ultimatum, her puss water, the vodka.

I really like vodka, but I'm not going to go gonna go with that i'm gonna go with the first option and um her stretching an hour a day is so effective anytime i was sore back in the day i'm like man i'm sore i need a massage i should have got a stretch coach ah i just want to go back to like the just because the family and everything because we could talk all day we all probably have adhd in this room but i the thing that i just noticed when we got together is, and I'm going to say it because this is the honesty day today, is I've never had a chance to talk to the world. So what I experienced in the beginning would be devastating to me

because whatever issue you have, your family is supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends. So when you see a situation like Brittany and Bam, it's the money. I worked for a piece of shit who was in the Florida shuttle shuffle. His name's Joe McBratney. I dare him to come for me. He owes me nine hundred dollars. But like he was in the Florida shuffle and he was sleeping with these girls like I'm I'm. What was he? He was he was an owner of a rehabilitation center.

So the definition of the Florida shuffle where Bam was, which his parents seem to be in denial at times, is that they will just take you and then say, you and I have one. It's like, Hey, Bam's about to get out. So let's get them fucked up. So they'll let, they would let the girls. Yeah. Because if they let you out and you have a couple of days left, they're hoping that you relapse so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance purposes. So they would let the girls go out and then say i'd say hey you know hayley's over on

10th street and delray go get her and then you would keep her for 30 days and we would split a hundred thousand dollars and that's how it goes and that's what he was in so when you have someone like our men here that have money it's just a constant shuffle so when i saw some of the body cam i was like pretty disturbed that people that were calling my phone brand new, trying to get ahold of him that I'm realizing don't want to call me either. Right. Because they just wanted to get to him. There's just a lot of facts out there that show that they just wanted to keep him there. And if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead or he would have just been in the floor to shuffle. For sure. And these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben and an ambulance took him

out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep and they pronounced him dead. And I woke up and I overhear everybody saying like hey where's Big Ben? He left. And all the staff members were like oh he moved along to a different facility. I'm like different facility? Yeah the fucking morgue. He's

deader than shit. They pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him. That's gotta be traumatic. But this whole place is trained. They were, they, they taught everybody to say that he moved along to a different facility. Yeah. The morgue is dead.

That's gotta be traumatic. Also having your roommate die right now. They put me in, I had to go in on, on, under jackass rules with paramount that I go to treatment and pay for it. It was wild. So I'm going in on Adderall and alcohol,

which I had a prescription for, and I go in, I'm on more drugs than I've ever had. I was a fucking zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry or cum. They put me on fucking Bipropion, Papanolol, Lithium, Latuda, Trazodone, Seroquil, every Wellbutane and abilify known to man. But,

but you could say like, Hey, bam, you're a cat. Oh, my cat died. Neat. You know,

Hey, uh, Angelina's over there naked and she wants to have at it. Oh, she does. Cool. Like I was just numb. I had no feelings whatsoever.

I was better out at the fucking Irish bubs, cracking jokes on Adderall and alcohol rather than all that shit. Do you feel like they keep people over-medicated in these places so that they can control them? Of course. And the doctor probably gets a big kickback on writing all these prescriptions. If you leave on nothing,

then they lose a client. Oh, he's good to go. Well, it looks like we don't need him anymore. No, they want you forever to be on their shit. What did it do? Nothing. They diagnosed me with manic bipolar and then they said are you depressed i go i don't know if i am depressed it's because i'm now too i'm i'm top heavy and i can't skateboard how i used to so they give me all these new prescriptions and i'm eating salads in there and i'm like gaining weight i'm like that's it so I type in Depakote number one weight gaining

pills Zyprexa number one weight gaining pill I'm like doc why would you give me a weight gaining pill if if I told you I'm depressed because I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be he's like well it's an antidepressant well if I keep getting fatter I'm gonna be fucking more depressed you he-eyed they um they literally just give you a pill for everything that's why I won't take any medication I barely even want to take a leave like around my period because it just fucking medications are just, they're like a bandaid and they don't fucking help. They don't heal you. If anything, you get strung out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of

your life. Exactly. And I did learn this. The interventionist Steve Timmer was on the body cam footage. And if you tell the police, don't listen to a word. He says he's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic,

you could be like, Hey, please, if you look right there and just lean your head over, you will find a dead body. Yeah. Yeah. You're not.

No, no, no. Just take two steps and take a look. Yeah. You're schizophrenic. You don't know what you're talking about. Like,

no, just fucking take two steps and fucking look like they just do not believe anything. As soon as you say schizophrenic, don't believe a word. It's actually one of the body cams. You can hear one of the cops go, he's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone.

Now that I'm very good friends with Paul, Paul said it was devastating. But you can hear the one cop go, oh, he's just schizophrenic. Don't worry about it. It's something in that manner of like, don pay attention anything he says did they diagnose you with schizophrenia he doesn't even know no he's like he's always something i think i think the answer is no just wanted to see me get arrested and go back to a mental institution what are you schizophrenic he ain't schizophrenic yeah what are your diagnoses so out of the 13 places i've been to i think two of them diagnosed me with manic bipolar.

The other 11 says that I'm not that. Every time I go to a new treatment center, which would be every 90 days, they'd be like, they have you on this, that, and the other thing, and this, this, this. What kind of cocktail is this? We've never seen anything like that. I'm like, they said that they were the best of the best. No, we're the best of the best, and you're going to be on this, that, and the other thing now and switch it up.

Then I go to another place, and they're like big what did that place put you on this is the craziest cocktail i've ever seen i'm like well they said they were the best of the best and that place that was the best best said that they sucked i'm like you're all fucking idiots minus the only one that wasn't an idiot that we just happen to run into how angels come back around is his and i'm going to say her name is ann marie we were just in doylestown pennsylvania and she hasn't seen this person in so long and there's a table we usually set up with the Duff's. The Duff's, this is at Duff Rides for Tony Hawk and Pamela Duff is where we were staying. I'm like, what? My therapist? What are you doing? She was there for a different thing.

She's your original therapist? And she was the only one that I listened to and loved. Everybody else, you know, and that's another thing. I just spill my guts to a whole new therapist. I had 13 therapists in the past two years. So it's like, here we go again. I got to spill my whole guts out to every another person and get nowhere because I'm just going to leave again. And they're going to give me another one. Okay, you be quiet for one minute.

So she basically, we just ran into her though. And so she was one of the only ones that told me personally that she didn't want to do what companies were making him do, the Paramount thing and everything. That she didn't want him on all those things. So they didn't like her because she wasn't following the poisonous rules. So somehow they lost contact. We're going to meet Pamela for dinner. We walk in this restaurant to go to Pamela's table,

and she's sitting there. She's in this beautiful pink suit. I'm like, who's this bombshell? Where's Pamela? And then they're almost crying because they haven't seen each other in so long. So I just want to say there was one good one, but she was too good to make it

because they want good to go away. They want to feed the system. So if I stop taking the 18 medications, then I don't get the 5 million that I usually get on a jackass movie because I broke my contract. So I stopped taking it. Looks like you broke your contract. I'm like, yeah, what's the point? What's the point of getting

$5 million if I'm dead? Because that's what was going to happen if I kept taking that. But if you read about Britney, they say how they open your mouth, they make you swallow the pills. And I just show my tongue. So it was like they were making him do that. Didn't you have to like sit on FaceTimes with them and take your medication every day? I would sleep all fucking day only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator.

And then I would just go back to bed. I was like basically just dead inside. If I wasn't dead already. They did it to him again recently when I went to go pick him up. That's like another part of the family. And now that I can talk about it, everyone is aware that it happened fast. But when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever, and he was like, I'm going to Nobu to bang bull.

I was like, you are? Don't do that. I like you. So then I met my best friend Heather. I was like, do you really think he's going to go to Nobu and do that? She's like, I don't think so. And then two hours later, he's like, bam, knocking on her door, Lebray in Hollywood. And I'm like, all right, we're dating going to go to Nobu and do that? She's like, I don't think so. And then two hours later, he's like, bam, knocking on her door, LeBray in Hollywood. And I'm like, all right, we're dating.

It's over. Don't do that again to me. I was stressed out. But, you know, when he had to go to court was when it was a reality check. He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court? And it was a really big deal. But I didn't know that he wasn't coming back. So they kept it.

I didn't know either. So it was a rough time. Because I had a little Tiff with my brother. I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio. He got Prince's soundboard from Paisley Park. And I knew that I would be in treatment. And once I got out, I was going to go to California to hike with the shaman to lose all his weight. So I came home.

Didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home. So instead of like, hey, welcome back, it was more like, so when are you leaving? Fuck yous when I'm leaving. So we got in a little tiff about that. I read his phone on a three-way conversation with the people that were working in the studio at my house saying,

we did not know Bam would be home. He's ruining our program. We need to get him back to california asap or 5150 and for no reason just to not so i ripped off the first thing i saw which is sign billy idol guitar and and either smashed it with him or on the kitchen whatever and then i told his girlfriend who was trying to rescue a cat she fell off the ladder and shattered her heel so i said i'd put a bear trap on her other foot knowing that i don't own a bear trap and i certainly didn't fly in with one so i got a terroristic death threat charge of a bear trap and i put my fucking hand in one and jackass too and it didn't even break so cool your goddamn jets

everyone it's gotta be so hurtful that the people that you're supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you it's almost like they're just just it's the little things that piss me off villa valo from him is my favorite band so i have a big a picture right as soon as you walk in there's a piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with like a you know just super disrespectful and then i just bought phoenix a little blue lamborghini car for special car that i left because when i got arrested on the manhunt when they called the police on me to 5150 me I left that car there because I got locked up he could just put it right in the house it got so sun-dried that it's gray it's not even worth giving it to him anymore

what is your relationship with Nikki now there isn't one yeah the the lawyers she she lawyered up with a lawyer which was completely ridiculous because we're not married. We got married. It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you, you have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So thank God on that. We're we're. So she's trying to tell the, the lawyer that her name is Nicole Margera. That name does not exist on paper. It doesn't exist on the planet of earth. So I was giving her five

grand a month out of the kindness of my own heart for child support. I'm like, I'm being more than fair. And then finally we went to court with her getting a lawyer and the judge was like, you only get $500 a month. You're not even married. So I'm like, you should have been happy with the five grand. Now I've given 200 grand to my lawyer and your lawyer wants me to pay for him too. All the money has gone to the lawyers congratulations over a matter we could have figured out in one second when's a better face time for phoenix high noon on wednesday or is tuesday better but they always say we're still working on it so if you send me another 50 grand we'll still be working on it yeah you're gonna

work on it for eternity till my banks run dry so you aren't in't in Phoenix's life right now, or you are? It's still an issue. Apparently I get to see him once every weekend, but I'm fully booked with these Comic-Cons every weekend to pay these legal fees. It's working out, though. Unfortunately, just to speak on this subject, I come from a divorced family.

I have daddy issues right now. I'm pissed at him right now, but it'll work out. And Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad. Dad's famous. So dad's busy and he's doing better than ever and he'll be okay. You know, it's just getting on a schedule so they can see each other and spend time. Right now it's monitored. So that's been a little hard on him.

But, you know, you got to prove to the system that you're not a nutball, even though it's kind of crazy. But I told him just to do his part. They're going to be just fine. It almost doesn't even matter if a decade went by. Like, hey, do you know, can Bam see Phoenix now? Because it's been 10 years and he's been sober as a judge. Well, he'll probably just relapse.

I know him. You know, there's nothing I could do to win on this matter. And unfortunately, he's been so up and down that I don't think that they believe this. I think that I'm a fly-by girlfriend. Some people think I'm here for the fame. I'm famous in my own way. I don't need it.

And it's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up. We should be skateboarding together. If I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a fucking Paw Patrol poster, i'm crying my eyes out if i even go past a playground and i see kids play it's like that's all i want to do but i have to have a fucking supervised visit from the supreme court with a microphone on just it's like i've been living at the black rifle coffee compound with a little eight-year-old and a 10-year-old how come i get to live there and play with them all day but when it comes to my own kid i have to have a supreme court visit

with a microphone and people filming me just to make sure i don't do anything wrong what am i going to do wrong but my sister is not famous and she had to go through this and she just in georgia has like and he won 51 and my sister is an angel she has to pay support. So they have a good connection and he knows he's not alone. There's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their kids, whether you're famous and have money or broken up nothing. And they're fighting for no reason when it should just be about the child. So I support him a hundred percent. And he knows that.

I don't even know what school he goes to. I don't even know where he lives, even though I'm paying for it. I don't even know anything about him, what friends he has, what he even likes, what cartoons he likes. Don't know anymore. Because everything has to go through the lawyer, and it's just such a pain in the ass. Is Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship with you so that you guys can co-parent together? When a girl is scorned, then all they see is fire in their eyes and babylon's burning

and it's gonna burn your fucking house down there's nothing you could do to save it right it's just there's it's hard and the kid's young so just i think right now like me personally i just like i said i come from a you know divorced family and you know it's all about him and phoenix it's not about her it's not about me it's not about april and phil it's about those two and you know, divorced family. And you know, it's all about him and Phoenix. It's not about her. It's not about me. It's not about April and Phil. It's about those two. And you know that everybody on her and they're here in her one-sided story. She's probably going around saying,

bam, left me high and dry. And he gives me only $400 a month. Yeah. I was giving you five until the judge said, you're only getting four. And I gave him all my money to lawyers when I begged you not to get one because we don't need that.

So it's all gone anyway. There's nothing to divide anymore. You know, the lawyers take everything. I started from scratch and I love it that way. So now if we want to get a house, we pick out our own furniture, we do it. I like starting from scratch. I've never been more happy in my life

on this great adventure of just going from spot to spot, meeting new people people coming up with new deals new what whatever it's great sounds like you date a boss bitch you know in a vicious circle of the hair of the dog i wake up like oh i feel like shit from drinking but if i have a drink i'm gonna feel pretty good and if i have another one i'm gonna feel even better if i have a third one i'll feel great next thing you know you wake up oh fuck I feel like shit but if I have a beer I know it's a cycle why do they call it hair of the dog I've never understood that the dog that bit you but why the dog hair doesn't bite yeah I like dog hair I've never understood that saying either but I used the method often in the

past it sounds to me like you have found some sort of purpose. Yes. And that's what's driving you. And that's exciting to you. Because even though you have done everything that you've done, it almost seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to appreciate it. Exactly.

Amen, buddy. I mean, I made my own video at the age of 16 and through word of mouth sold over a million copies without even putting an ad in anything just mom and pop skate shops were selling it and everybody said you need to see this video so then i did another one and then that's when jackass found me i was the first person ever ride ride for Nike. And when Element put out my skateboards, they also put out BAM wallets, BAM sunglasses, BAM everything. And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine, I already had all this BAM stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff.

So I was clocking mega bank. And every wish that I had, any goal that I set would come true quicker than my deadline date. And I fucking ran out of goals I feel like you made jackass though because you already had like a little mini empire with cky before even getting on to jack I knew who you were before jackass everybody knows that all the fans really say that like people who really grew up with you because you raised some of us you know like we grew up with you and you were like you were pretty much like one of the first real content creators if you think about it like really an influencer or whatever the fuck they want to call it that's the thing living in pennsylvania and he's the hottest that's when

tremaine and oxville they would be in in los angeles making all these secret deals then they do a fucking documentary about how jackass got created and talking about big brother the whole time and at the very tail end probably about five percent oh yeah and then ben was doing cky in pennsylvania if you do the math i sold millions of copies you fucking barely sold 20 000 copies of big brother's video called poop and tit and fucking crap i don't even know i've never even heard of them yeah i know exactly i know who cky has heard of that. I have learned how to fucking forgive and be happy, and I deleted anybody that's given me a problem, but I just want to take my anger out on one person.

Jeff Tremaine's too much of a fucking pussy. Knoxville, get into a ring with me. Take off your boxing gloves. One, two, three, you're fucking done for. So you're still really angry with Knoxville. You fucking put me through hell made me pay all this fucking treatment money and they're filming behind my back while i'm in treatment so they already set me up to fucking fail and then and then as soon as i do the slightest thing wrong

i'm not in the movie so i paid a hundred grand to go to treatment only for me to fuck up and then now i'm not in the movie they had it all planned out and i think that knoxville tried to do this movie called action point in south africa and they had a 15 million dollar budget and he tried to do it without us and it was a fucking flop they only made two million dollars so when that happens the label says you're not free to go you're either gonna have to pay this back or fucking put your house up for sale or do a jackass five well if bam's not in it then that's already six million five million dollars that we don't have to pay back so we could already say he's a fucking liability because he's drunk out in front of a hotel room on tmz yeah well on jackass two i got a high five for fucking good press when i got a felony charge having brant's knuckles at the lax

airport drunk as hell that's all what they need from you at the time yeah but now i'm a liability fuck you guys. I'm just going to say on that note, since we skipped right forward to that, you know, it's funny how recently my DMs and phone calls and text messages, I'm going to let them all know right now to stop texting him.

Yeah, and if you double dog Knoxville to do any stunt, oh, I'm so brave, I'll have to do it. Why triple dog dare you? Step into a fucking ring with me. You're done for. You're over. When you say your DMs and stuff like that, who's DMing you and calling?

Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say, you know, Novak reached out, but I don't even know who he is. Right. So I don't want to get involved with their relationship. I have a 30 year friendship relationship and no one will get involved in that either. You know, so I was around during the CKY days too, wasn't it? It was. And you know, I've helped him with over a dozen treatment centers I've rescued him over a dozen fucking overdoses

at the hospital I've paid for all of his mistakes and I don't want any of that money back now that he's doing good but like he stole my S55 Mercedes $125,000 car when I was in Germany high on pills to go get more pills. Wrecked into the Dean's car in Westchester. Fleed the scene. They tried to charge me over it until I proved I was in Germany. But he says, you always got to take a cone of booey for your actions. All right, well, you owe me a fucking car.

You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware, driving around in your Range Rover. You owe me a car. But even just recently, because I go through his phone. So anybody who's texting, I read everything because I'm allowed to and if I need to change the number I will because there's nobody allowed but our little small circle right yeah which is probably what's keeping him safe and sober I can't have any of that and I've gone through the phone and I saw the message it's like let's go to the sausage castle and you can knock me out I'm like I love Mike but I'm like and Mike Buseyy wasn't the one texting, but you know, Steve was asking him to like punch him.

Like we're not, what are you taught? Like we're doing, he's doing great. Like you should probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing instead of doing something that would benefit you. And that's why I like just putting my phone down. I like to just focus on, we spend all day every day. Like we are such a fucking powerhouse team that she takes better photos than most of the people on Thrasher Magazine. Those are all my pictures of the skateboarding.

I tell her where the angle is. We get the shot. Thrasher Photog. She stretches me beforehand. And we just have a perfect day that I don't need any fucking phone calls interrupting the flow of that. And everybody asks me, if they did another Jockers, would you want to be? Hell no. It is done. Tremaine has ruined the legacy it was supposed to be a fucking tribute to ryan dunn now

he puts these fucking new hee-haw heads in there and and too many balls like why were we stapling balls the whole time it was very disturbing and all he does is sit behind the camera and say get hurt in action poopies got bitten by a fucking shark he could have died and the movie made 150 million dollars in the box office and apparently he got like less than 40 grand you can't even buy a fucking dotson with a used tire on with that kind of money meanwhile yeah you had her a hundi but you had to sign a contract on jackass for everybody could get fucked with at any given moment except for Tremaine because he's the director. No, because he's a fucking pussy. So circling back to Steve-O, I had a conversation with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast and Jay just did his podcast.

And I told him that you were coming on and he said that he is. I can't. I'd have to look at the text message. But so much. I think he said around the like he's hurt. He's reached out to you and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response. I won't let him respond right now. So he could be mad at me, but that's okay. Yeah. Maybe when I get, um, to know a little bit more of the situation right now, my focus is his mental health and

my relationship. Like I've only been with this person for eight months and it went public kind of immediately, which I can handle. But you know, right now they don't know him anymore. Right now, this person is on a whole new chapter. That's not about counting days. It's not about how, you know, it's about he's changed. He's turned a page. And if those friendships can survive, then that's great. But right now, I love Steve.

But when the time is right, we'll talk and everything's cool. But I mean, like, I did his tour. He asked me to go on tour to open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission. Everything was a success. I didn't drink like how he asked. And then I find out that he puts all my money in a Phoenix Wolf trust fund

when he turns 18. I'm like, I earned that money. Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it on alcohol or drugs it doesn't matter I did the work fucking pay me and it's it's not like I need your money I have a fucking couple bank accounts I could just go right to the store and get some but like you're not at liberty to be starting a Phoenix the Wolf trust fund and he gets it when he's 18 it's not fuck fuck that it sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and tired of people making fucking decisions for you making decisions for me and i i can't even trust you know i it's just hard to trust anybody i don't know what their

fucking real agenda is yeah that's tough yeah that's heavy to not be able to trust anybody like that yeah i always say friendships are meant to be like they will, right? I mean, they've known each other for a really long time. I'm always 100% in for it. But right now it's... You know, we have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not going to let anybody fucking dent it anymore. Right.

Viva La Bam, I let in so many friends that the bubble just bursted. Yeah. And when you keep giving everybody your phone number, then you start talking, you start forgetting to talk about the important ones. There was a point where my manager, Terry already was so great.

He would get me fucking commercials to do right card for a million dollars of one day of work. Yeah. And now I'm pawning off his phone calls to a friend of a friend because I don't have time to fucking answer it now, which I've highly regret doing. You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like, shit. Yeah.

He had this movie all ready for me to go. I was too hung over to make the flight. And because of that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what? Enough is enough. I can't. I just had a lot of money on the line for you to be producing this movie in Hollywood and you were just too hung over to get on the flight. Well, I'm done.

I think that circles back to doing this at such a and you were just too hung over to get on the flight, well, I'm done. I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunities because you didn't know. Like, you literally grew up doing this. So to you, it was just like, oh, another fucking deal. I'll get another one, you know? And to have $300,000 to spend a week for 65 weeks. That's unheard of.

They would never give somebody a budget like that now. That's unheard of. They would never give somebody a budget like that now. That's unheard of. Our meetings at MTV would be fucking bonkers. It's like, so what do you want to do this week? And most people would be like, is this guy crazy?

I'd be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue and then we'll have an elephant come in and we'll make the outside a fucking moat with a drawbridge

and then I'll keep wrecking Don Vito in my uncle's car until he gets fed up and drives my armor off a cliff. RIP Don Vito. Boom, done, deal. Now he saves elephants. I love that.

Circling back to you and Ryan Dunn's relationship, let's focus on that for a little bit. You guys were like best of friends. Yeah. Take me on that journey with you guys. Well, we met in, I was in ninth ninth grade he was in 11th at east high school in westchester pennsylvania he just um moved from cleveland ohio and um he was just such a character he was he didn't know how to skateboard and he knew that i was making the cky video and uh he became a part of the crew just because he would be the guy to do the gnarly thing

that everybody would back out on you know he's big so so what does everybody push out on to get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three-story building into this pricker bush just give me a shot of crown royal and let's get it done and over with so so he would be like we call him random hero because he would always save the day and um and we did everything together anytime we did an mtv interview he would always be right there if i started trailing off or you know he would always take over so to find out that he got in a um car accident it was very devastating because i never had anybody die that i was close to and i never knew what it felt like it was always like hey did you hear Aunt Audrey from Pittsburgh died I'm like who we had Thanksgiving dinner with her five Thanksgiving

all right whatever are you gonna go to the funeral I guess if I have to I don't know so anybody that died until then I never knew I didn't you never knew a pain but then when that it hit so hard to the point where I remember we were in outside of Phoenix, Arizona. I was doing an appearance the next day and we were in the woods having a campfire. You could see all the stars and I'm like, man, I am really happy right now. I couldn't be happier. Then all of a sudden I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do that?

I'm like, I don't know. I'm just mad and I don't know why. I just don't know i'm just mad and i don't know why i just don't know why turns out he wrecked at 12 28 in pennsylvania and i smashed the window at fucking 9 28 in phoenix so it's like we had such a connection that i knew something bad happened and i didn't know what till i found out the next morning so it was like he was like a soulmate like he wanted you to know yeah soul know soulmates can be your friends too it's not always a romantic link and my mom would always tell him like you get these

fucking fast cars with these fast engines you're gonna get into a wreck he's like yeah a fiery wreck and that's how it happened he wrecked he flipped me in a car eight times in the oncoming traffic when I was 16 years old in school he was doing a radio he was installing a radio he was

installing radios and he's like cop in the car I got this Jetta for it's not happy and not the Jetta so we're flying 110 miles somebody caught us off we slid for so long like a football field as soon as we hit the grass in the median we started flipping into oncoming traffic my brother got flown out on the last flip he was 40 feet in like a moat. I could see his feet sticking out. And when I saw him, he was just like, a helicopter had to come get him out. I had a big softball in my head from bashing the window out on the first flip.

But I got to thank Chris Rabb because he was sitting next to me. And he put my seatbelt on. And I ejected. I said, I'm not a pussy. And then he put it on again. And then we flipped instantly after the second time he put it on. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when you started spiraling? Hell yeah. Because I was so lost that I didn't know what to do. It's like, well now we can't make a CKY video. If we do another jacket, it won't be the same. Yeah.

And, uh, uh, instead of like drinking as a celebration it was just drinking to forget right and it became a real fucking problem and i didn't even know it i would always i was always that guy to go you know 90 days and be like all right you know we're going to ruth chris steakhouse tonight i could have one wine for dinner yeah it might be one wine that night for dinner, but the next day I'm going to have two. The next day it's going to be two bottles,

and then I'm out looking for drugs. It always happens that way. And getting your phone stolen was too much. Over a baked dozen of tries to realize that. Oh, my goodness. So jumping back in, do you think, Bam, all the trauma that you've been through, have you had, I know you've been to all know all the trauma that you've been through have you had i know

you've been to all did the florida shuffle but have you ever had any like trauma therapy yeah i mean they put me through everything i like a part of the uh jackass thing i had to blow into a soberling four times a day i had to pay for 800 a therapy twice a week neurofeedback same thing um yeah and and but i think you were forced i think if you did it like on your own i have therapy of hearing sirens when i because i was on when i was on that manhunt it was gnarly there's three helicopters in the sky eight police officers circling around trying to find me through the woods i am a professional at hopping barbed wire fences i was scared shitless on the fourth one but on the eighth one i became a pro and then i drank the brandywine river because i was dying of thirst i slept in a box in a fucking house that i thought was abandoned until they pulled up and

they were so terrified they come up to unlock the door and they just see a pair of feet hanging out this box and all of a sudden i just jump out like a bat out of hell i just go i'm sorry and i keep running down the railroad track oh my god i was fucking harriet tubman from the underground railroad i had fairman hide me take me to a albanian restaurant and then they took me from there finally i i made it to the jersey shore at a buddy's house and and i was telling random people just to see how far it would go i told my mom that i was in north carolina just to see how far it would go. I told my mom that I was in North Carolina just to see if that would travel anywhere. Sure enough, turns out, like,

we found out Bam's in North Carolina on a high-speed chase, all larried up, because if he made it to North Carolina that quick, that means he was driving 120 miles per hour. I'm like, that was a lie that I told to my mom just to see how far it would go. Oh, my gosh. I'm in Jersey, ass assholes there's just so

much betrayal and there's so much trauma here and i think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without with it being on your terms like danny said i think it would help you out a lot because you just are so hurt you know like there's just so much turmoil inside and that's why you drink that's why you do the drugs you do is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have and with the relationship it's all about trust if you don't have trust you got nothing right absolutely that's 100 right and now you've got danny yeah hell yeah well we know there's no filter here so it works for sure so how many days sober are you now since august 1st okay so that's that's

actually a good while is that the longest you've been sober well minus the florida shuffle because i i was forced to be right right on your own this is you on my own yeah that's amazing yeah love it what are you guys's plans to just keep this going and like what do you guys do differently now than any other time i've known this all i needed all along was a structured schedule that's fun because i had no nine to five job i had no boss ever tell me what to do and you know i need a structured bedtime schedule i know when i'm with her i I'm in bed by 9.30. Yeah, I texted her last night at like 9.30. I woke up this morning, I was like, I missed something.

We were in bed. He was already asleep. And that's why I love having the dogs because we wake up, I walk the dogs, we take care of them. If I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs, but we walk the dogs, she stretches me, we go to the gym, then I look for a. She stretches me. We go to the gym.

Then I look for a skate spot. She shoots the skate photo or films it for me. We get it done. We go get something to eat. And then I either paint or read or write or edit or whatever it is. It's a whole fun structured schedule. And Steve-O would always tell me, dude, if you just get sober, you'll see that neat things will happen. I'm like, well, I've been sober. And the only neat things that happen is nothing because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm like, well, I've been sober and the only neat things that happen is nothing because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm forced to go to AA to learn that alcohol is banned. It's not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy.

I'm forced to go to nerve free. Make nothing fun is happening at all. I couldn't imagine. Could you, our personalities? I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill and put me in a room with no freaking music or my phone or you or a text. They want you to go crazy and i gotta say this

i mean it's like a setup for disaster how come the fucking fbi or no one has done research about this amanda rap client that lima my guardian she died under her care and she changed the autopsy saying that it wasn't from what she died from it was from a cardiac arrest seizure which is what i started getting as soon as i met her and it's online so these things that are being she already tried to go i read about it but it's all on the internet i mean people are now aware of her lies people aren't still in her care are they well i don't know they better not be people are backing up she made me talk about this neato fucking helmet that she made listen to to this. And I put on this helmet and she forced me to say how neat it is and how it helps with therapy.

In one eye, you see a little fucking kitten drinking milk. And then the other eye, you see a Tyrannosaurus Rex is coming at you at full speed trying to eat you. And she's like, which eye do you pick? I pick the kitty cat. You're on the right path. No shit, I'm on the right fucking path. Why would I pick the left eye, which is a t-rex coming at me to eat me so they're basically using like psychedelic you know things to kind of trick your brain right and you know if i did i went down the

rabbit hole of bj investigates and that's that's how i when he was sleeping and resting i wanted to know and pamela and bj are friends and they showed me things that I started to understand the system even working in the shuffle I was familiar with it right and then watching how they use certain tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them so there's a word for it and it's a very scary all bj investigates wanted to do was free bam she started the free bam movement so if you're against that then you're against me bj is a big big deal with the free britney movement so she's the one in case not just bam but she's uncovered the wendy williams recently casey case them back in the day like she's someone who is speaking for

those to get her on the podcast i would i'll definitely connect you to um let's not forget this isn't just happening to famous people this is happening to someone like you and i well you're who is speaking for those to get her on the podcast. I would, I'll definitely connect you to, um, let's not forget this. Isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone like you and I, well, you're, you know, I don't care,

but I mean, just like you and I like sitting in a room and your mom thinks you're okay. And you're not because the person that's in control of you is a liar and money hungry. And no, we went through this with our daughter. We had, we had to put her in a treatment center last year in september and i researched everything because i was so scared of something like what

happened to you happening to her so it's scary i mean yes mental health system is a fucking nightmare and we definitely don't want to bash the good ones i'm sorry i went to aurora mental health in pasadena california and i was just talking to the other people i'm like so what happened to you he's like i was just here for a 48 hour hold and then they found out that I insurance and I had nowhere to go and I've been here for fucking 150 days keep you like a shot like it's really and I can't even get on the phone and I don't even know who I would call for help but they found I was only on a 48 hour hold and then they found out I had insurance and I had nowhere to go. I've been here for 150 fucking days.

I'm like, this is fucked up. And then if you go and say you kind of need help, like we just had a friend and we're not going to name drop him. But he was going through kind of the same thing that Bam's going through with custody. And he said he just had a couple of bad days and he went to 51 or he went and they 51 50 to him and he had to check out. He was like, I don't belong here. Like, I just I'm having some personal issues and asking for help they put him in with you know the people that really need help so it's like you're having a bad day you can't really get the help and then once you do you're labeled you're in the system and they want your money if you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are fucking yelling at the trash can saying why didn't you marry me

and the other one's trying to fucking french kids their own sneaker. You're going to start doing that shit too over time. If you can't beat them, join them. Why? Because everybody else is. Just grab your sneaker and make out. It's fine. Oh my God. Bam. Just hearing this stuff is just fucking wild, dude. Like it is

crazy. This is, it hurts my heart for you, honestly. The best thing to do is just to just shut your fucking cocksucker because the more you talk the more they can hold against you my one buddy hannafin called me for the mental issues you just bam you don't understand i don't belong here you gotta get me out of here and i hear i'm like are you banging your head against the wall he's like yeah i'm like you just bought yourself another month you idiot don't do that then you're definitely that you hot air buffoon you just bought yourself

yeah bang your head against the wall that's a real good idea he's actually really good in the gym too this one this one hasn't given himself benefits for let's talk about some good stuff so what are you doing now that's different like you're getting stretched which i just discovered stretching this year because i too i heard you say something that you had ripped your thing your hamstring i was fucking doing a TikTok thing. I fucking like was joking around and like doing this fucking stupid dance, not like a genuine TikTok dance,

but I was like making fun of something and snapped my fucking Achilles heel in half, dude. That is so painful. Bro, it's still fucked up. And this was on Halloween. Yeah. And I fucking was like, fuck that. I got to start stretching

I got oh yeah and and that's what I've been doing is stretching and it's phenomenal yeah I thought there was there was no hope for me like I was even I was putting tacks in the in my calf muscles like there was a bunch of calves my friend was like what are you doing I'm like I'm putting tacks why I'm like to relieve the pain oh God. So like that's how stiff they were from just alcohol abuse and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles. It was for real. It was that painful. And,

and, uh, one yoga guy was like, just reach down and touch your toes. See if you can do that. I doubt I can. And I went and my hamstring popped right here. I was out for a year from that.

I, I even, when i got out of treatment they let me skate a three foot half pipe with my friend jeff rasp and i didn't even get to drop in yet i ran up the three foot ramp and and basically got such a cramp that i couldn't do it anymore tried the easiest trick on the planet looped out because some little shit ass waxed a coping like a fucking eskimo and i hyperended my elbow to the bone coming out and broke my wrist for the 16th time and my arm still won't go straight from it.

It's getting better. We'll straighten that shit out too. So stretching, working out, being on a regimen. Dogs. He has such a good relationship with them. That's like another thing. Did you never have animals before? I've always had cats because

okay gotcha yeah but but anytime i would have a dog i i leave too much i travel too much so a friend would watch them and when a friend watches your dog for a month and it's a brand new puppy you come back and they're like i can't give this back to you i get it yeah gotcha but you know bam i think a lot of his friends will say like, you know, bringing up how he has been in this world for so long that he's always had people around him. And sometimes they'll say,

gosh, I just can't believe you're letting him go hiking with the dogs. I'm like letting him hike with the dogs. Like what do you mean letting him? Like number one, I get a free moment to hang out and watch maybe some trash TV for a second. And then, you know, I'm thinking and learning that people have never let him be like alone. Let him be a human.

Let him just be in the woods. And they've kind of created anxiety for me, which who wants that? I don't want him going, you can't go work out in the woods. You know, it's like who wants that relationship? So if Bam's going to fuck up, he's going to fuck up. He knows what he's going to lose if he fucks up. It sounds like he's finding peace, though. I don't feel like you've ever had peace your entire life.

And I just like, I'm saying, I let him just go do his thing. We have found such harmony, which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious day. Harmony is what I needed. And man. Just spending time like alone with the dogs and he takes them for hikes like things that you know at 40 degree weather pennsylvania is very cold for me so yeah yeah

i'm not hiking at 5 a.m with them i don't know too yeah so but he goes and does that and it gives them time to bond with the dogs and and it gets him you know they have their own little relationship which i love i'm starting to think so you know what maybe Maybe the interventionist really thought that I was schizophrenic because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like I was telling somebody, yeah, so I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim Jong-il likes sports cars and he wouldn't let me drive it around, but he let me park it at the airport. And then Iggy Pop played my wedding

and Billy Idol cut the roof off of the Lamborghini. He's probably like, this guy is fucking batshit crazy. But if you look it up on YouTube, you're going to find that shit. You've lived 20 lives, dude. He really has. Yeah. I mean, the people that he knows are insane. I feel like he's-

This guy's talking about shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong Il. Nobody goes to North Korea and he probably doesn't even have a Lamborghini. Fuck you. It's all true. I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day you don't have to please anybody else but yourself and danny and you're actually just being able to be bam and i think you're finding who you are now and i have a strict diet the only thing i eat is pussy meat yeah oh well i mean that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all. It's not a bad diet.

And I mean, I don't blame you. It's like filet mignon over here, you know? Filet. Filet lobster. Are you eating healthier, though, and stuff like that? I'm sure Danny has you. Once my leg... He's actually a healthy eater. My body feels so good now that all I want to do is eat right.

And I really don't... I never thought the day would come to where I would stop. Because it's always free if you're at a nightclub. You want to do a bump in the bathroom? Sure. You know? And then, you know, you get really addicted to it. Not these days.

You'll die in the bathroom. I've been on the ground on this rug with a fucking microscope looking for crumbs, you know? And I'm like, I'm never going to stop. It's just a matter of time. I'm going to do it again. Now, don't feel that way. You can put it right in front of me. I'll flush it down the toilet.

Don't want any porn. But, you know, like people always say, forget the haters online too. Like, oh, I can't believe you're fucking bad. Blah, blah, blah. Number one, mind your business. Fuck who I want. Right. And number two, like I wasn't going to leave him as a person.

Like I'm a good person, a people person. And I, you know, the people that I believe we're connected to. And when you have a connection, it was whether we were going to last sexually or not or what booty call or not. I still wanted to be his friend. And like when he, especially in Hollywood, like it's so hard to find normal people in this world as it is. But when he did have to go to Pennsylvania and we had the two days together, which people don't know, the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave. And the attorney, because I was upset, and the attorney said, you know, you guys have to have him in by Sunday. And this was Friday.

So we had a couple of two really good days. And I remember saying, like, he just said, just don't leave me here because they're going to shuffle me. He knew that if he stayed in the system, we weren't going to be able to see each other. With the little tip with my brother. When we went to court, we flew in from California. My Bentley was there parked at the LAX airport.

Cause we thought we were coming right back. We put the dogs up and, and he's like, you're sentenced to stay in, in Pennsylvania for three months. I'm like, but your honor, we live in California.

My car's in the airport. Our dogs are there. And my brother lives at my house. So he's like, ain't my problem. Yes. My problem. It's a fucking big one.

So now the judge basically said, I can't even go home and go get your car. I was like, what do you want me to do? Float around of motel sixes around fucking Pennsylvania all day. Why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania? All my stuff. I moved to California. tough shit like yeah it's very tough so that's when you know you like somebody because basically I had to fly back to LA by myself I had a lot to think about and then

I went to my best friend Heather's house in Hollywood and La Brea and I'm like and his good friend Dre you know a few good people were I said what do I do and they're like go get him he had eight days and he said if you don't come give what do i do and they're like go get him he had eight days and he said if you don't come give me on the eighth day they're gonna keep me here so basically everyone gathered it got his i got his bentley they checked the oil they made sure it was fine i grabbed the dogs heather packed me up dre packed me two dogs in the bentley two dogs in the bentley and me and enough to get across that's if i can that's a tv show yeah it took me five days to get there it really like made me appreciate everything.

We'll all be on a road trip, and I'll just pull over on the side of the road. She'll be like, what are you doing? I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment. You've got to understand. Probably sees it different than we do. I was locked away. The only outside I got to see

was a fucking barbed wire fence to smoke a cigarette. Brutal. God, it's like prison. And it's such a dick tease because the beach is literally right there. This doesn't feel helpful. That's terrible. Yeah, they make it seem all nice on the brochure. It's right by the beach in Delray.

Yeah, but I'm locked up and the beach is right there and you won't even let me go to it. That is so sad. So you guys are engaged now? We are. Is there going to be a wedding? Yeah, yes, but we wanted to... Okay, I want to be the flower girl.

Okay, perfect. I don't have one. And Jay gets to be the ring bearer. Yay! No, we don't want to take it from Phoenix. We really want, you know, like, Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to play during it. And that's not an easy thing

because you need the lighting and the stage and all that so it's not something that's going to happen soon we're going to plan this really well yeah it happened you know it was just a fun day and then i forget what people zoom in on us now yeah i wasn't going to take the ring off even though it was like a cute little antique he made me pick his hand he's like pick a hand yeah tell me how it happened yeah it was really cute so there was this house in penn, Mrs. Pamela Duff that they have that has a waterfall and a lot of potential to live. Hold on, sum it up.

The Duff family, Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tony Hawk's company, Birdhouse. And me and him are friends. And when I had nowhere to go and I'm sentenced to stay in Pennsylvania and I can't even go home, he said, come stay with us because they own Duff Electric.

They have a bunch of properties. And you couldn't stay in your own house? No, so they took us in and they had this really nice house that they wanted to, that they just own, but it needs a lot of work and it's right on the Delaware River

in this cool town called New Hope, which is like this cool little witch town. But you're going to leave out a fun detail and the girls need a detail. Yeah, we need the girly details. Details. I'm a butterfly mom. I raise butterflies.

I've been doing it for like nine years. I want to be a bee mom one day too. So I saw potential at this place. He was talking skate parks. I saw the waterfall. Pamela just would love for us to live there because she's ready for another project. Right. And I see in the front, I'm like, oh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden.

You know, and I'm like looking around because it used to be a restaurant so there's a lot of potential but could be a little crazy so as we're like driving which I thought when we were in the Poconos I was in the worst outfit this purple jumpsuit with a beanie and he takes me to this like heart-shaped hotel and I'm like not in this outfit please lord no I was thinking like I hope he's not being like romantic in a aware this heart you know what i mean it was like heart-shaped i'm like okay not looking too good long story short it was that night yeah that we left that place nothing happened so i was like oh cool it was like that was fun so we're like driving driving driving and he literally goes oh my

gosh do you know and it was pitch black it was like 10 o'clock at night and he's like well we were just having such a good road trip to all were having so much fun. Listening to all of our favorite music. And I noticed that that was the house that we wanted to fix up and everything. So I just pulled over. Got out. In the butterfly garden. I had these rings in my hand. Once I kissed her at the Duff property, I threw the rings near the waterfall.

They're still sitting in there somewhere. But we haven't been back long enough to go find them again. so he proposed to you with the rings pick one and then threw them yeah such a bam move but i'm like okay and then he like sat up against this little wall and he's like will you marry me and i'm like are you fucking around like are you kidding or whatever because we were like sitting that little butterfly garden and it was just like super cute and romantic he knows i'm not like all blingy and need anything crazy so it was just really fun and I and I was like well duh yeah like if you're being serious you know we kept it quiet for a little bit then of course those little people

out there got a hold of my finger and we're zooming in yeah I started asking questions I'm like oh yeah I guess I should say something that a really good friend of mine asked so I told her yes and then that's how we know Leanne with us so you're in good hands with her because she's like can I talk about it and I just looked at him I'm like well I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they start talking before the rumors start yeah so then I was like all right let's talk to her and here we are it's been crazy so what does 2024 have for Bam and Dani what do you guys have planned I know you guys are doing all these horror cons and signs. We're booked till like October, which is exciting.

We're going to die and save the world or what we can of it tour. We skate, we save. Well, I'm the big animal saver myself. Save the world or what we can of it tour. So like he skates and I'm like checking it. We were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm in all glam. Yeah.

And I'm like, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. Glam's gone. I'm like holding the pit bull he was all broken everybody walking past the dog like he's just searching for food starving to death they're just like look at they didn't want anything to do with it and she gets out she's all done up like this because we have to go to a horror comic con i just picked the dog up we're in the ghetto at the skate park under a bridge they were probably probably like, who is this chick that just pulled up in a purple fucking Bentley

to save this dog with fleas all over it? Don't care. But then, you know, the skater community, people don't understand how rad they are. So these two, like, rad chicks come over. They're like, do you need help, these skater chicks? And I said, well, I just called the SPCA. And she happened to have a 561 number, West Palm, me. I had the same area code.

So she scooped them right up, took them out of hell. And it's just, it's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder, but I can kind of fit in anywhere. And, you know, the skate parks we go to, unfortunately, aren't very, you know, they're not in the best areas. So you see a lot. And you always find weed there. Well, yeah, true.

But, you know, you see like the cats and the dogs. And it's sad because to bring up the world we live in everyone wants to play pickleball and tennis and basketball when the skate parks are like in the middle of bad places that you really don't want to take your six-year-old after five five o'clock so those are the places that we're hitting up and opening my eyes to this world needs to change we'll be sitting there fucking playing a shit i'll be like i thought the rule is no phones. Hold on,

I'm saving a goat from fucking Idaho right now. I'm like, give me that. You really are doing that. Yeah, we have like a phone thing, but I'm like,

hold on, I have to pledge on this elephant real quick. That is hilarious. It's true. I'm like, most of the time I'm on my phone,

I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or I'm screaming with PETA. What are you doing? I'm calling 911. Why? Pedal in the duct.

Because this guy got arrested for trying to save ducks. He did. He did. He did a trespass charge. Yeah. What's up with that Wayne? Wayne and Zoe Rooster. You're going to see.

Hopefully the Today Show here soon. They're ready. I love that. I want to tell you guys, when Jay and I first got together, we immediately went out on tour and it's the best bonding experience for a couple. It will either make or break you. You guys are either meant to be together or not. Once you guys are in a car fucking traveling all the time, like working together, that's when you really figure out what you guys are about and you fall in love fast because you get to know somebody so personally and so quickly. Totally. And there's a lot of

things that I didn't know. You know, if we show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a comic con and we're only there for two days like she'll be like i know you guys got to see him and i'm sorry but we're having fucking date night tonight because you know i'm like cool you know i've never had the courage to say like it's 8 p.m it's over come along to date night yeah i'm like it's 8 p.m we're done he's like another hour nope i'm in bed by 10 date lines line's on. I need Keith Morrison. I think he needs you because nobody has ever really been able to tell you no. I don't even know if the word... I think it's you guys run wild together.

We do. You just have more structured wildness. You know, I am. Structured wild. You know, I am sitting in a hotel. It's 10 o'clock and I'm just like, you have tamed the Apollo. I'm like, Apollo? What does that supposed to mean? you have tamed the apollo i'm like apollo you've got me in bed by 10 i'm very you've tamed the apollo and then you really just go to sleep

but you don't have sleeping problems or anything you've got no i was always on so much trazodone and cirico and i thought i needed that to sleep but at the end of the day i'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym and, you know, having such a fun, productive day that I sleep on time. Are you 100% sober? Yeah.

Raw dog in life. Just a couple of puffs of weed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's sober to me. Yeah. That's sober to me. And he has a medical card.

People relax. Yeah. I don't think we, there's a, you know, there's, everybody has a different definition of sober. I'm completely straight water and skateboarding is my medicine.

I told that the other day. They're like, well, then you're not a hundred percent sober. I'm completely straight water and skateboarding is my medicine because i just told that the other day they're like well then you're not 100 sober there's different levels like he's fine there's california sober and they're straight edge i'm straight edge my husband's california sober he'll drink and he smokes weed all day you know so some people have to have a vice you know i would love to have a vice but my anxiety the way it's set up i can't so it's like skateboarding and pussy meat my life see weed for me is something that just levels my brain out so that's why I'm never gonna call a vagina a vagina again it's strictly pussy yeah that's that's uh that was the word of the month when we first started dating at the restaurant so I was like can we not say that at the middle

4 p.m he'd be like it's her pussy meat on the menu. I'm like, Oh my God. I'm just going to go to the bathroom. Oh my God. Shock value. That's what I'm after. You know how to handle it. I think you guys are fucking adorable. And I love seeing him so happy. Like that really makes me happy to see him.

I'm just learning. Yeah. Learning like the, you guys and the fans that have loved him so much are teaching me like where he really was. I mean, I knew he had some things going on, but when,

when I'm, you know, the best part about working with him and seeing, you know, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs and the fan, you know, I say hi to them. They're so, most of the time they've been really nice to me. I know it's just the trolls, his fans that are in line are very sweet to me. They're not iconic. They're not coming up trying to spit in my face or whatever, but you know, they're teaching me so much about him. And I love all the people that are coming up and saying that you're helping them get through recovery. Or they're just so proud of you to be back on the skateboard. It's amazing to see the skateboarding community.

They're so stoked to see him back on the skateboard. There's so many people rooting for you. I'm learning, like, what a badass skateboarder he was. You have to watch all the CKYs. You have to make her watch. Can we slumber one day and do that? Yeah, you have to watch them because then you'll really. She's seen like bits and pieces.

I've seen bits and pieces. The last one she saw, she's like, so hold on. Brian Dunn was drunk at the bar in Westchester. I saw that one. He's like all drunk. He's like, if we were in Iceland tomorrow, I would have gone off that waterfall. I'm like, but you didn't last time because you whooped out.

Yeah, but if we were there tomorrow, I would do it. I'm like, sign this right here. Next day he wakes up and I'm like, you didn't last time because you whooped out yeah but if we're there tomorrow i would do it i'm gonna sign this right here next day he wakes up and i'm like you signed the contract and i bought eight tickets to iceland he's like son of a bitch so we get there we didn't even scope anything out i found a random ass barrel on the side of the road sealed it up pushed him off by accident she's like i'm like you did that to ryan i'm like you pushed him what if something bad happened i'm, we really didn't think about that. We were fucking punk ass kids. I looked down the window.

That was my bad. So you guys are fucking crazy. What's your relationship with Billy Vallow now? It's good. We saw him at his last tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We went up with Jimmy Pop from the Bloodhound Gang. That was a fun day. I love the Bloodhound Gang.

It was rad catching up with him. Quiet, quiet, quiet. You know, the last time the first time he went to treatment we were at the um chateau marmont he and we just got a deal signed for him to be on warner they got a really good deal and um he was drinking a lot and he knew i had a prescription to adderall and he kept asking me for one and I'm like dude I've given you enough and and he's like I'm like you know what just because it's you I'm not gonna say no so he like started hyperventilating and um an ambulance came and that was the first time he

went to treatment and I think Warner Brothers found out that I was the one that had my prescription that he kept asking for which kind of sucks you know, I didn't drink at all. I didn't drink till I was well, 23 years old and all that. And when I was hanging out with him in Helsinki, Finland, I was so mesmerized by just how rad he was that when we stayed in the same hotel together, he opened up the mini bar and cracked open a beer. I'm like, you're just drinking in the day. I thought people only do that at nighttime.

That's crazy. He's like, you want one? He's like, I'm not going to let you do it alone. So that was the first time I've been introduced to like day drinking. That's crazy. And then tables turned to where I'm the fucking bad. When did you start using drugs? Probably about.

Tell the truth. I'd say 24 or 25. That's wild. No, I know when. I would have thought it would have been so younger we're in davos switzerland doing this thing called the winter jam for mtv some 41 was playing and this band called guano apes and jackass was there to host the whole thing and i remember we were staying at this nice hotel in the alps and somebody like started putting these lines out on the table and

that was the first time I tried it. And I had a massage booked right after that. I'm like, I got a massage. All right, if everybody else is doing it, I'll do it. And I did it. I was getting a massage like, but it's going to be fucking done. I can't even relax.

God, I could imagine my first fucking bump of coke and I'm getting massaged. I would go crazy. There's no way. Always terrified of a needle. Never messed with heroin or anything. What's the hardest drugs you've done? Probably just meth and coke.

Anything upper. Shocking. I don't know why people would do heroin or Valium and show up to a bar and fall asleep into their beer. It makes no sense. I used to be one of those. I loved Xanax. The dope fiend lean. Xanax was my shit. I was an upper Yeah. I used to be one of those. I love Xanax. The dope fiend lean. Yeah. Xanax was my shit. I love it.

I was an upper person. And a cold. I used to call myself Xanax. Like I would only take that if I was on like an airplane. At least you owned it. Yeah. But man, you have one beer on a Xanax,

you're fucking loud. Oh, lit. Just lit. It's a party. There's the closet problem. I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast and I look forward

to seeing you guys just blossom. And I really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us. My husband loves you and I love you. So, yeah, I already told Jen and Jesse. Yeah, we need to us three can be on the bus and you guys can get your own bus. Are you guys going to come see us on tour? We are. Antonio.

Yeah. Yeah. Come to a show. We always have so much fun. And I have the girls have their own bus the boys have their own bus and I know the band would love to see you guys and I'll steal Melissa I want to let them know

Melissa Quinn Michael Quinn they love you so the boys will be together we'll steal her Melissa actually manifested this I love her she's been saying that you and I would get along great and that was literally two days later I had your phone number. I'm like this is crazy. I love it.

I'm so happy that we were able to work this out. Hopefully Jenna can come but Melissa and Michael will go meet her then. Thank you guys for coming. You want to shout out your social? I'm sure everybody knows where to find you. They know me, Dan Murray official.

They are there. I'm good. save a dog just google bam margera you guys will find everything i think maybe the fans are realizing like they wanted to see me uh every now and then but i'm just gonna blast them with shelter dogs so please yeah i watched your story the other day and it was all dogs i was like i love this girl i go through my moments where i'm like and i'm like, calm down. Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs, everything. I give a plug to Curiosity Donuts from fucking Doylestown. They're awesome.

I love that. They only open on Wednesdays because they make them so fresh. Oh my God. We'll have to try it on tour. We'll go on tour. We'll literally say Bam recommended this and do a whole TikTok on it. It'll be awesome. Black Raven Coffee, rock and roll.

Thank you guys so much for coming. You're stuck with us. I appreciate you. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.