Dumb Blonde - Christen & Whitney: Holy Sh*t

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

Buckle up baby, because it's a wild one as Bunnie welcomes two of TikTok's biggest "it girls", Christen Whitman and Whitney Wren. These two beauties break down ALL the drama that every snark page can dream up, from friendships to breakups to hamsters, hygiene and what really happened on IG Live. Christen talks about Konnor, Rocky, and Bunnie shares some receipts of her own, while Whitney shares her love of a good ole cowboy. Christen and Whitney also talk about their own friendship dynamic, what's next for them both in 2023, how they handle such hate, and whether or not they've hooked up with each other. Bunnie: Website  Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com Christen Whitman: TikTok | IG  Whitney Wren: TikTok | IG See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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all right gentlemen coming to main stage next this is bunny get up there she's got a tornado of titties coming your way get those dollar bills ready she's got an ass that shakes like michael j fox so get up there and throw throw throw them dollars dude that is iconic what's up you sexy welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today i have two of tick tocks i don't do i do i dare call you guys the villains of tick tock or what would be a good word to describe you guys Kristen and Whitney I think villain is a great thing I'll go with that my dog's name is villain like there's nothing wrong with being a villain oh no I find absolutely nothing wrong with it but really I don't think you guys are villains I think literally did you guys ever watch the hills. I've never seen it. You guys have, okay, so.

Already off to a bad start. All right. No, not at all. I think, see, to me, I'm in my villain era always, so I don't think there's anything wrong with being a villain. You can be a villain with a hero's heart. That doesn't mean anything, you know, being called a villain. But I think you guys are really misunderstood,

but there's a show called The Hills, which you guys, if you ever have time to watch it, need to sit down and watch it. And people were fucking obsessed with these kids. I'm talking like new, everything about their lives. And I feel like that's how you guys are.

Like I literally, every movement, every action, everything that we do, somebody's watching. Yeah. Like it's scary. It's insane.

And so when I say villain, I don't think it's a bad thing. You know, I think it's like, you guys so when i say villain i don't think it's a bad thing you know i think it's like you guys are people are so fucking fascinated by you guys like it's just insanity yeah it's crazy how are you guys welcome to the dumb blown podcast we're excited i'm really excited kind of nervous but i mean stomach down down those down those trulys and you'll be good if i get lazy i just mind your business. I mean, seriously. What are you guys doing in Nashville?

I made a song yesterday. Yay. With who? I don't know his last name. Dustin? Castello. Castello. Castello.

Yay. So you sing with? Yeah. Actually, I'm like always nervous to sing in front of people. So, I mean, she's helped me. But like on stage i think that it would take a lot well i mean if that's really proud to do yeah but it's practice makes perfect too so you know like you'll be nervous now and then it'll be like fucking second hat to you

you know once you start really doing it that's awesome i'm proud of you that's karaoke when i'm you know shots listen i love still amazing karaoke love, love me. So what are you guys doing out here? You guys are staying at Caden's house. We love Caden. Love him. Isn't he a doll face? Yes. Yes, love him.

Who else is there? Is he living here? Yeah, he's living here now. It's Tyler, Caden, Jaden. Kreesh. Kreesh. Oh, it's like back and forth. It's the whole squad.

Gotcha. We had so much fun last night. We all got into a circle and played the most obnoxious music and screaming into the microphone, dancing. We were doing splits. Seriously, I was doing tricks I didn't even know I could do. It was amazing. She said I was busting it wide open.

Honestly, yeah. Take me, okay, where did you grow up, Kristen? We're going to bounce back and forth from you guys. So, Kristen, where did you grow up? Where are gonna bounce back and forth from you guys so Kristen where did you grow up where are you so I kind of moved all over um most of my life was spent in Michigan from like 10 10 years old till I was 20 um I was born in Colorado um my dad was in the military so I moved around everywhere but yeah most of my life was spent in Michigan and then I decided to move to Florida when I got a little older and met her. Ah, are you close with your parents? I'm very close to my parents. Yeah. I wasn't

when I was growing up in high school. Yeah. I don't think anybody is. No. Oh, you're so strict. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, yeah. You're like, no mom, no dad. But now it's like, as you're older, you're like, okay. Oh, I love that. So mom and dad are still together. Yep. Awesome. I love that. What about you? I still together? Yep. Awesome. I love that. What about you, Whit? I grew up in St. Pete, Tampa. Okay. All my whole life, I've always been there.

Yay. Yeah. I love Florida. I know. Florida's amazing. I don't know if I could live there during the summertime, though, because motherfucker. It's hot. The humidity.

It's like 105. And the humidity is like 112. It's fucking just disgusting, dude. Every time I go there, I'm like swamp puss. I can't fucking do it. Literally. Swamp ass. Swamp ass. I've had some dude every time i go there i'm like swamp i can't do it literally i'm swamp ass i'm serious swamp ass up in there seriously i can't do it like legit so where did you go to high school kristen uh i went to lakeshore high school which is in a small town in michigan i don't know can i say the towns yeah of course i mean everybody seems to know everything about you so i don't think this is a surprise. Not at all.

Addresses, moms, birthdays, sisters, dads, cousins. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if my social security card came out. No, but I went to a small, it wasn't that small. I graduated with maybe like 300 kids. I could be so balling. I don't know. It was in a town called Stevensville. And I started going to school there since fifth grade.

So like I said, most of my life was spent in Michigan where my dad's side whole the family's there awesome everything so what about you Whit I went to Seminole actually I went to three different high schools so I started out at Christian school my whole life until ninth grade and then I left went to public school which was like three thousand four thousand kids and then went back to a christian school and then i got kicked out went back to seminal oh i grew up i went to christian school too it's very hard when you're a rebellious child so it's kind of like now everybody knows what you're doing knows it's 24-hour rule yeah like you and people are very judgmental yes exactly that's why i left well left i got removed in 11th grade. What'd you get removed for?

I actually dated a girl for two years and they found out and they were not happy with it. Are you lesbian or are you like? I'm bi. I would say more towards men. Just I had a really bad experience with a girl and she was very insecure. And I mean, we both grew together, but it was like really hard because we both were young and we were like one of the first girls I mean I would say around that came out and a lot of people like looked up to us and it was it was hard but yeah especially because the older adults were probably a lot oh yeah my family did not oh so your family my mom was supportive it was just

more pushing towards not right but is your mom extremely religious how's your relationship with your parents uh yeah um my i'm really really close to my parents i have a stepdad he's really he's amazing but my dad passed away when i was 12 so but i'm really close to my mom now like very close so i'm sorry to hear that my My mom just passed away last week, so I couldn't imagine going through that at 12. That would suck. No, it's okay. I'm good. It's really hard.

Yeah. Especially, I mean, like, nowadays, like, society and, like, boys, they don't know how to treat women. Oh, at all. So it's hard growing up without a dad to show you how you should be treated. Totally. I feel for you guys having to date in this era because i thought boys men whatever you want to call them or fuck boys when i was growing up you guys are like in the microwave era where everything's replaceable everybody wants everything right now social media everybody looks up to this like cute i mean someone

could be prettier nicer funnier have more money have more followers there's always more options they'll know they'll never know what they have they just constantly want to look for more yeah no better crazy i mean like i mean girls do it too but it's more i mean it's harder for us just do you have people who try to date you guys for your social media presence yeah but we can tell who you can tell we've how do you tell what are are the signs? Okay, so constantly. I didn't know this until I recently went through it. But constantly posting you, talking. Everything's on social media.

I'm guilty of it. I'm guilty of blasting my life on social media. But I feel like the DMs, the messages, the public Snapchats, all that type of stuff where they can get females in any situation and they're going to constantly compare you to them or constantly rub it in your face that they can get better or whatever the case is so you never feel like good enough for them because there's constantly more prettier better looking all that type of stuff it's just it's a battle it really is terrible i would hate to fucking have to go through that

yeah um have you guys ever dated somebody for their social media presence I've only had one boyfriend so no I try to date people that don't have any clout my first relationship with the girl was I've had followers since I was like 16 17 so I know what it is and then when I met her I was like I went through the exact same thing and it's team team Whitney team my ex and it was like so hard because was it a was it on social media okay i was twitter like twitter famous okay so i just want to clarify and i've said this to you guys off camera and i'm gonna say it on camera i'm a grown woman i don't have time to follow you guys's drama you know but of course you guys come in on the podcast i had tons of people saying well you need to ask her about, you need to ask her about this. You need to ask her about that. I genuinely brought you guys on this podcast because one, I love little boss

babies. And I think you guys, and I say that with love because I'm 42 years old, you know, and I just see you guys coming up and I'm just like, this is so fucking cool. Whitney, you're beautiful. Kristen, you're beautiful. You know? And I think it's really cool that you guys are building these brands. And I think last time I said that somebody was like, what brands are they building? I'm like themselves. Like that, the fact that you guys are building these brands and i think last time i said that somebody was like what brands are they building i'm like themselves like that the fact that you guys are a household name the fact that you have a website and a frenzy with tens and thousands of people on there just dissecting your lives that's a brand paragraphs i'm talking somebody could write an entire book and we've never like the stuff that we read on there we're like yeah it's new to me because i never even heard it it's crazy they're saying that i don't

even know if you'll add this in there but they're saying that um we we had people signing ndas to hang out with us and like all this i have bitches sign ndas to hook up with my husband and i so there's nothing wrong with that well no as you should but like you should but like yeah but like for us like but they look at they pick apart and put it in such a negative way even if we did have people signing ndas or consents or anything they always take everything negative but it's in a negative way because they're like oh well they think they're all that they think they're famous they think and we don't think we're famous but we definitely know we have a name they have a page of 23 000 people that completely shit on me i know i'm known known. Right. So I know that I have things to

worry about and protect myself with if something were to happen. Well, let's move let's move the conversation over to that since we're on it right now. How does that make you guys feel to know that these people are literally tearing you apart and just saying the meanest things lying outright because they've done it to me, too. Like they will just chop up shit and just fucking make it a sentence that I didn't say and fucking say that I said it. Like that's got you guys are babies, you know, like you're when I was 21. I was like fucking Lindsay Lohan. I was snorting fucking eight balls of cocaine off strippers asses. I was fucking robbing motherfuckers for their money like I was doing crazy shit.

So if I would have been on social media, I just would have been lit with my name, too, you know. And that's why I look at you guys and I'm just like, you guys are fucking kids. Like all these people that are fucking talking shit about you guys, what were they doing at 21? Fucking sitting in church with their hands in their lap being good? Like it's just crazy. And it's almost like you guys can't make a mistake.

So how does that make you guys feel? We should just have a conversation about this. Sometimes we literally just do stuff on purpose for them to post it on there oh like me grabbing a trulia to drink yeah that's definitely for it yeah i antagonize it but no and we were just talking about this the other day go ahead it's understandable yeah because i mean we we don't really feed into it but it's just like if they're gonna be judging everything i do might as well i mean i don't know we just we're like rock hard now at this point like i've had i've had a to b to homeless like homosexuals like like homophobics all that through now to being like fat shamed and like all that are like you

guys are tiny oh i'm being fat shamed i mean people think i'm pregnant people think it's to the point where it's just like i'm fat i'm gaining weight but like i mean genuinely i was not even a year ago i was 92 pounds and i was like that was like a few months ago but you know that that website is a reflection of how those people feel inside you guys are everything that they want to so now we at this point we just kind of laugh at like not laugh it off but it's just like what else we know that we know the truth we know how we are in person we know that we're like awesome people. Like everybody that's actually met us, they say the same thing. And if they don't, it's because they're either jealous or they don't want like anything to do with us.

Right. They want other people to view us a different way. Right. But it's got to be hurtful. Like some of the shit you guys read. I mean, I see stuff. Because like we'll repeat it. Like we'll read it and like we'll like repeat it a few times and, in our heads and we'll laugh about it and say, like, a comeback

or, like, say something like, well, I don't know why they would even think that or blah, blah, blah. But then we kind of just, like, talk each other out of it and then just stop talking about it. We're really good at that because they do it to us equally. And we want to laugh at it because our personalities are just so, like, laughing about everything, make jokes about everything. I mean, very easygoing.

But it does get to us because, I mean, imagine 23,000 people going on there and then just saying, oh, well, the thing now is for me that my pussy stinks. I constantly use Monistat. I got yeast infections out the ass. I'm just fat now and all this type of stuff. But like certain boys started that as well. So like it doesn't help when people.

It's literally like a burn book, an online burn book. It is. it's sad and i would wish nothing i would wish no one else to go through it i'm glad me and when you're the ones that get it because we really can laugh it off and be really positive about it but we were talking about how like if we were in this situation in the past or like how she was before like we wouldn't have been able to get through it you know what i mean like and it's sad because these people don't realize that one thing two things that you guys say can make us not be here anymore. And it sucks.

It's really sad. No, that is terrible. I've been in that position, whether anyone believes it or not, but I've been in the position where I have tried to take my own life because I was bullied really bad in high school, but nothing will compare to how I'm being bullied now. But I think because I started social media a while ago, it's helped me build that so I don't feel that way anymore.

I mean, I have been depressed because of it, but. Right. Let's rewind really quick. So you got on the internet at 16 and you did too? Yeah, it was like right when I finished my senior year. So not 16, but probably around 18 years old yeah okay 18 19 and you too whitney um yeah i was probably i was like that was my my senior year yeah okay and then you guys just had a following and started growing your brand or whatever online

okay so this is like not new well i mean you guys 18 19 20 21 22 five years um i have to count with my fingers because i am the worst i pretty much failed math i could count money and make money all day long ask me to add something i can't fucking do it um okay so you guys aren't new to this but still it's it's fucked up so how did you two meet oh i love i was so excited when you asked this um i'll start um we actually i got together with a big group of people from tiktok we went to miami all got an airbnb and um can you name the names um i would say like names of people who were there yeah of who the big group was oh like um honestly my roommate jamo jack gentry um sal styles i think his last name i don't know any of these people.

No, a lot of them are on the side of LGBTQ. Okay. I'm trying to think, like, Jane Rivera. There was, like, a huge group of us. Right. And we all just went to hang out, just all meet. Oh, Kat. There was a few of them.

And I had two roommates at the time. They were boys. And they knew that her and her old roommate live and brought them to the house and i didn't know who they were at first and i was just like i was actually in a really bad mood that night when i tell you i walked in this house i was really upset no i walked in this house and i looked at her and i think like angels were like shining behind her like she was like the most like no i'm not joking i just have to add this in here the most beautiful person i've ever seen in my entire life you know and live literally

walked up to me and were like my mouth was i was like you were gorgeous i was like you're so cute so then i didn't really i wouldn't we didn't get close after that uh she was closer to my old roommate uh live for the longest time and then we went through some shit and then who's we went through some shit uh me who's, we went through some shit. Uh, me and my old roommate live. Yeah. I was going to ask you about that.

That's one of the questions people want me to ask. And we'll, we'll get into that whenever you get done with this. Um, and then after all that went through, um, me hanging out. Well,

I was, I was friends with Connor too before. And, um, when they had dated together, were you guys together? Uh, yeah, we were, we were together when we moved you guys together uh yeah we were we were together when we moved when i moved to florida and we were together most of the time i was in michigan but

i was not together with him when me and her first met okay gotcha it was more he was friends with my roommate so he was like kind of at the house hanging around while they were having issues and then um he ended up like going home or whatever and I became friends with her so gotcha and it was just it was love at um first I just oh no it was I was I just saw she was struggling a lot and like I have like um I'm kind of stable like with I think my mental health and like I'm always like adventurous and wanting to do stuff and I could see like within her that she's very open and excited about doing things now going she just needs motivation so I was like I would always text her and like hey like you should come

over and hang out we should go do these things and blah blah and like she was a little depressed at the time so I would have to literally go pick her up to go do these things because she wouldn't get out of bed so um I think that helped her a lot and then I started like like taking her in basically I was like oh I just like I love, I just, like, I love you. I want to make you feel like you should feel at home, like not what these people make you feel. So I wanted her to, like, you know, feel as I felt. I knew I was going to cry.

It's okay. She has helped me through it all. No, but that's good. I have a best friend that I'm still best friends with. I was the brunette and she was the blonde and literally we have been best friends for over 30 years she's coming to my husband's show in uh Chicago this weekend so having a true friendship yeah I've never been like I was really close with Liv um I consider her as my best friend and everything but like her she's older than me she's like what two years older than me and so she has had a little more experience in life in general when's your

birthday whitney august 11th um leo i'm 24 oh yeah that's right i booked you guys's um things and you're a virgo yes yeah leo virgo oh yeah so she just helps me has helped me so much like mentally physically and everything you want to fix people like i always want to just take a man oh i love that that's how i am too so you have a very motherly um spirit yeah about you i got like an immature you know brain sometimes i just always want to have fun that's part of growing you guys are doing pretty damn good for your fucking age okay um so let's talk about what do we want to talk about first do we want to talk about live or do we want to talk about connor which one both are interesting so let's talk

about live and then we'll get into connor yeah so me and like just from like the start or yeah just kind of i think everybody's wondering what happened with you guys where you guys are at now your relationship with her and stuff like that yeah so we met through tiktok she actually reached out to me and dn me we both lived in michigan at the time like an hour away from each other she was from grand rapids i was from stevensville um and she just had dn me and was like why don't you come hang out with me i was like bad made an hour drive there hung out there and i was like oh my gosh she's like me so we just kept hanging out she moved in with me um like I would say like like two months after we met she came and moved down um the part of Michigan I was in and we lived together for a year and then we decided that we wanted to expand I guess and go somewhere else

because it was just a really small town we were I mean we had just started also getting bigger on social media together and we were traveling to la in different parts and just meeting all these people so we were super excited about it so we decided to move to florida um we got an apartment in august and we moved there it was really fun and i was i started dating connor before gosh before we moved it was probably like three months before we moved to florida i started dating connor and because y'all had visited a few times like me we yeah we went to florida we tried out like where we wanted to live um we got no really big issues at all um while we were living in the apartment we lived in two places together in florida so the apartment the only problem that

we ever really had was she was just upset constantly that Connor was there, which, oh my goodness, he would never leave. But that was kind of the only, we never really argued. She also would have a lot of health issues, which as a friend,

I constantly, and also I'm very like mother, like nature, like I constantly want to take care of her. If I get a cut, she's right there. I'm like, I'm just like that type of person as well. And so I was constantly taking care of a cut she's right there I'm like I'm just I'm

just like that type of person as well and so I was constantly taking care of her which can take I never told anyone but it can take a mental toll on you because I was sick sometimes and you know I wanted to be nurtured in a way or something like that but I was so focused on making sure she was okay she had lupus she was constantly taking so many medication shots it was hard to keep up with it but I was always the one that would be like you take your meds make sure your meds um call her doctors make appointments and things like that and she helped me too as well taking me to appointments when I had anxiety etc so um we both helped each other a lot there our friendship started going downhill when we moved into a house um because we actually got evicted from our first apartment because um and can I say

Rocky's name can I like say yeah okay I don't see why not okay so Rocky and J-Sauce also got evicted we lived in the same apartment complex they got evicted because they're just dumb they're just boys and then so they came and we let them stay with us until they could just get um situated or whatever we had a three-bedroom apartment and while I was in Michigan for Christmas I think they decided to have some people over which got us evicted and we weren't really upset about it because it's whatever so we got a house four-bedroom house um like 10 minutes away from where we were um still really good friends at that point and then her she started dating I'm gonna say it too because I don't like him um his name is brandon

and she started dating him they kind of went back a while um and he changed her a lot um he was very what's what's the word whitney um very very controlling and as a friend it's really sad seeing someone go through that because she saw me go through that with connor and she was constantly like literally crying with me on how i felt and so seeing her go through that i'm like shoot like sorry you're streaming over here um so it's really sad seeing that yeah it's hard to watch your friend you know uh when it's when you see them going through something that they can't see but you also want to be happy for them because they're so in love with them, or it seems, you know? Gotcha.

And then that's when, oh gosh, okay. That's when me and Rocky started doing our thing. And Liv and Rocky had a past. They never dated. Does everybody fuck everybody in the circle? I mean, I feel like it. I haven't done anything with anybody in the group, and I'm so proud of that. Whitney I'm ready said hey good for you Whitney it's not my fault they became

homies after you can't call me a homie you can't call me a homie and they became became friends well I think sometimes when you have a mutual dislike for somebody that brings people closer together too a hundred percent and so when we talk about connor i just want to give this disclaimer because connor has called me multiple times and everybody i just want to clear the air i have invited everybody on the podcast kristin was all for it whitney was all for it everything i invited the boys here you know connor might tell a different story but you know his mother did not want him to do the podcast. And after that, I called him one time after I got off the phone with you.

He did not answer. I'm not going to chase him to come on my podcast. And I never heard from him. So I felt so bad after that. I mean, because we came we were coming. We're supposed to be on your podcast last month ago. Yeah, last month ago. And that's not me talking shit.

That's just me. Oh, no. Stating facts. And not talking shit. Because that's not me talking shit that's just me oh no stating facts and not talking shit at all because that's genuinely what happened i literally was sitting at the bar with whitney at the airport and i remember you calling me and i was like i felt horrible for you because you're like i didn't even know anything about the drama and i'm like yeah this poor woman doesn't know anything about the drama she's getting calls from whoever and she did she genuinely was like hey would you be okay if we all came in here and sat

down together and i said you know what if that's what it takes to maybe we can all get along clear the air 100 and they didn't want whitney to be there because that's my bitch she talks shit with me she's very well grounded as well and i think they were more afraid of like you guys just getting loud and like arguing and i just kept no not us yeah and I well I kind of you know I've been sitting back watching the situation and um Connor you can tell is still very hurt by the situation you know he started crying to me on the phone he is he's and you started crying too and I told you that he was crying so I kind of feel like there might be like some well never ended resolved yeah never it was always just back and forth yeah like i feel like you guys to hate somebody as much as he portrays that he hates

you there has to be love behind it he doesn't i genuinely think that too i think if they were to sit down in a room and talk i don't think they've ever done that yeah i just think that it's necessary so we're not here to bash connor kristin is here to tell her side of the story and you know we're going to be very conscious of connor's mental health as we proceed so do you want me to start from the top yeah well so you said that um with you and live yes that that's when you and rocky started messing around so if you want to intertwine you can yeah so obviously me and connor had broken up um i broke up with connor i guess i've kind of forgot this part i broke up with connor um right before i moved into the house okay um it was around it was after january um right when we were moving into the house um and then it was months later it wasn't like the next day i went and slept with rocky

type thing at all um it was months later because rocky and liver kind of just no they only did it for like two months two or three months so after you while you were with connor yeah it was while i was with connor and then so then we were all just like chilling like there was no no one sleeping in the house i guess and then she brought brand Brandon and then that's when they started dating and I'm hanging out so Liv and Rocky were hooking up before she got with Brandon yes okay yes yes and she hadn't been with Connor yet or she was let me yeah Liv who was with Connor was Liv with Connor too no okay oh no no no I thought I heard you say that earlier I mean I don't know that's. That's now, but I'm going to say. No, I'm not starting any rumors. I thought I heard that.

I'm not going to either because I have no idea what goes on now. But so started dating Brandon. And then me and Rocky were pretty low key for. Oh, my gosh, sounds terrible. For like two months, we were really low key about it. We were just hooking up. And then I caught feelings like a fucking dumbass. I mean, seriously, it was ridiculous. terrible for like two months we were really low-key about it we were just hooking up um and then i caught feelings like a fucking dumbass i mean seriously it was ridiculous should have never

even done that but does that make you a dumbass because no because he did too he did too yeah but that's so then live and brandon moved out because live was upset at me because i was hooking up with him which i get as girl to girl i completely get and i'm not going to sit here because i know this is gonna be on social media i get i was wrong i probably should not have done that but um why was she upset she said she really liked him okay but they had never hooked up rocky and lift yeah no they did okay that's what i was just asking a second ago oh i think you said connor's oh okay well fuck me i fucking i i cannot remember all the fucking no no there's so many names that's how much i don't know the drama i don't even know

who's who i know rocky's got a weird hairdo and that's all i know that's all i just know from the hair that's it we were just that were crumpled up in the dish and i'm not talking but that's just all i know you know if that's his thing that's his thing whatever i just know i was the dude with the hair um so okay okay gotcha so live liked rocky they're looking up then she met her boyfriend um they they moved out because she was upset at me there was a lot of like tension in the house brandon did not like rocky because of rocky and live and rocky was never disrespectful to their relationship so i don't see that side of him acting like the way he did but it was more Brandon was being so like Liv didn't really ever say anything until Brandon would start the fire like he would light the fire and that's how

then Liv was like obligated to come up because Brandon was running his mouth so it was more of like Brandon that's how Liv changed Liv is not a she's a very non-conference i've never heard her yell or argue nothing until she came around she just said but one thing i would try to and i'm glad brandon helped her was speak her voice if when you're upset at someone don't be afraid to tell them i mean it's taken a while to learn that too but now with social media whatever it's you have to have a voice you have to stand up for yourself in this world so they moved out and then obviously me and rocky continued doing what we were doing and this is why you and connor were split no i had no oh so you were with rocky before connor no after okay like i know there's a lot of rumors going on saying that i cheated on connor with

no correlation at all and i'd say that i'm just trying to make sure my brain was broken up with him and she gave him another chance like they broke they broke up in what, like, September. It was, in September. They took a break another month, and then all of a sudden they were sneaky. We got back together. And they went on vacation, and they got back together. We did. We got back together in October.

We were on a vacation. It was never healthy. Right. It was never overlapping. No. But it wasn't healthy, so. Right. Yeah.

Right, it was never overlapping. No, but it wasn't healthy, so. Right. Yeah, so that's when we rocked a continue journey and caught really bad feelings for the dude. I don't know why. I think it was because, so with Connor, it was a very, like, I was, I don't know, he's so sensitive, which is not a bad thing,

and I'm not hating on him. He's so sensitive, but it almost takes, like, a toll on you because I could not do anything. Egg shells do anything it was like he'd get upset if i went out doing with my friends and didn't invite him or something like that like it was a constant battle with that so he got upset for me for telling the truth about why he didn't come on the podcast and i've he got he blocked me and got upset with me because i was hanging out with her and yeah again i'm not talking shit i'm just painting a picture no it's truthful it's not talking shit it's truthful and people are scared of the truth

and they're always telling me that i'm scared to get called out and they're they're saying you're gonna it's like the truth truthful thing he is a very sensitive person i dated the man for eight months is it's not it's not wrong to be sensitive but i think that he doesn't heal correctly he doesn't it's been over a year since me and connor when's his birthday september 10th we're eight days apart yeah wow okay so i don't know it's been a year i think maybe he there might be some love there you know maybe i think that i think he's just very upset that it all of a sudden like i have literally no. Especially because you guys don't have any closure. Yeah. No, I have no hate for the kid.

And I would tell anyone that. And I think that he thinks that. Would you want to sit down and talk to Connor if he was willing? Like, not on live and not, you know, like. Yeah, but we know he would probably be on live during the whole thing. So she can't even. I was really taken aback by the live that he did and where he was sitting there just calling you names. Like, I. Chlamydia Ball. That has got to be number one of my favorite thing I've been called that. Chlamydia Ball? Chlamydia Ball. I was really taken aback by the live that he did and where he was sitting there just calling you names.

Chlamydia Ball. That has got to be number one of my favorite thing I've been called that. Chlamydia Ball? Chlamydia Ball. I'm not joking. When I heard him call me that, I was like, that's cool. Well, that's when you guys were all supposed to come on. So people were tagging you and stuff. People were sending it to me.

And I was just like, oh, my God. Like, what is going on? I felt so bad for you. I was like, this girl's going to think we're crazy. No. You know, honestly, I'll talk to you about it whenever we're not on air. But we have an amazing idea that we're going to present with you to you guys. So but we'll do that off air.

We'll get the fucking website just buzzing right now. They're probably fucking just going to be so excited. OK, so let's moving on. So what what happened with you and live so like are you guys friends so now um so we i mended the relationship it was after her and brandon broke up very very i won't speak on their relationship but a little bit very toxic right which i knew it would be i don't think anybody has a healthy relationship at you guys's age no especially with social media social media most toxic relationships yeah and they moved in together which i think is a big like no because you're with them every you need breaks i i know

when you're married but you still need breaks from someone else and so when none of them have as they tell us real life jobs and they just do social media they're constantly together gonna constantly bigger and things like that so very toxic relationship for them um they broke up she did we never really stopped talking um while we weren't friends because she went on social media completely shit on my name it was absolutely sad i didn't do that to her um lived it it was really bad wow really bad i was like hurt really bad and she was hurt too that's why she did it yeah um but i've never had anybody ever do something like that to me um very personal things too yeah that I would never if I if she she knows everything about my life if she went on

it's like me telling her everything and then her telling literally everyone everything yeah so it was it was really sad girl code too you know yeah I broke it with but I feel like you guys are all learning a lot of like how to be what not to do on social media what you can do you know like and i i think that's where the world is so unforgiving with you guys is that you guys are learning how to fucking navigate like okay let me just give you an example okay this girl tells everyone where we're going yeah you guys what we're doing baby ask my she tells the world okay yeah we're going on this cruise this has got to be the most embarrassing thing i would tell you they cruise embarrassing a day cruise we didn't get our vaccination we lied and said we got a vaccination we didn't um

no one else did we pull up to this cruise ship we're so excited to get on okay they scan her passport in an error i was like oh no we get pulled aside the only only two people you're whitney running kristen when we're like they're like oh they emailed us saying that you guys have fake cards and i was like i don't know if you're gonna block that but email them contacted every contact every cruise line that could possibly have been going out in Florida. Yep. Because we didn't tell them the port. At that date, no.

And they pulled it up and they said, if you can give us your vaccination from CVS or Walmart, wherever you got it from, then we'll let you go on. And we're like, how are we going to fake this? It was embarrassing. Oh, it was so embarrassing. Everyone in our group. So did you guys end up getting on? No, our whole family did. Oh, it was so embarrassing. Everyone in our group. So did you guys end up getting on? No, our whole family did.

Oh, everyone did. It's embarrassing. I mean, they were saying, though, that on the cruise, it was, like, miserable. Everybody was just, yeah, so I don't. And then four days later, they left the whole vaccine. But still, the fact that these people have that much time to do that, like, that's fucking insane.

We're learning. I tell her, I'm like. No, I'm like that with my team. When we go anywhere i you're only allowed to check in after we leave yes like i don't want anybody knowing where and you have to move like that especially because now we don't even have half the people who want to harm us like you guys you know and it's really sad i think with my issue is i've been on social media for a while i absolutely enjoy posting i enjoy so it's like now that everyone's i don't even think about it because like a year ago i could post up in wherever i wanted to and say i'm going on a cruise everyone's so excited for me you know they're like have a

blast but then now it's like let's show up and call every single ruin her life and so i don't think about that you know you gotta think about these crazies that will like show up and like want to cut your skin off and wear it type shit you know literally like for real like no and that's how the world is wired i'm sorry but it's the truth no it's it really is my kid she's sick she's not 16 she's 14 and i fucking freak out like i'm just do not post on social media where you are like you just have to keep it g like that you know or tell people you're somewhere else or if you're going some on something say it's the opposite of what you're doing that's what i said you know like always kind of keep them guessing you never want everybody to know where your location is yeah i just don't i just don't think about it because i'm i've been

able to do that yeah i've had the freedom we're being normal right now and it's hard because i yeah it's so sad but we just totally sidetracked no you're good you're good so live so she went she broke up she shitted on me while her and her boyfriend together it's i blame it on brandon 100 i know live is not like i was her best friend for a year and a half i know she would never do something like that but brandon absolutely had a negative impact on her life really badly and she had to learn that the hard way very verbally abusive relationship um and that's really sad so we didn't like I said we never really stopped talking right um we text here and there but no like hanging out nothing

and then one night I was just like you know what I don't really like this I she was my best friend I texted her I was like let's hang out and so we hung out one night and had a blast i was like i missed this and then hung out with whitney the next day we went out for her birthday with live jordan brie i don't know if you know all of them but uh just like her like a girl like friend group we went out for birthday we all got absolutely blasted and it was so fun yeah we had a it was so fun so then for our birthday as well we were coming to nashville the week that you wanted us to come on the podcast there's a lot of drama and yeah we were really excited because we were like okay maybe we can just like all have fun but we didn't know we had kept the nashville trip um

a secret right from specifically yeah connor rocky and kb because we knew that they were what do they call themselves the steakhouse steakhouse medium rare that's a dumb shit of my life anyway so we kept we had really kept it off offline as much as we could and then kylie you know kylie dweez um i don't know her but i do follow her and grant's little situation love love her she's an awesome mom person i'll never let anyone ever tell you different um so she was coming she had to tell um grant because of that so grant because of their the baby and their um court and stuff like that they had a she had to tell him where she was going right which makes sense but grant opened his mouth and then put all the boys so then they started posting petty shit so they're like fuck so then we get there we're on a house do you feel like

it's a little bit of back and forth with you guys like you guys are both both sides are antagonizing each other like the boys oh i will not deny we've kind of recently stopped though like i don't i mean sometimes i'll do like little here and there so because they constantly they just constantly like connor will post stories about her i went like photoshopped with like eight different dudes like it's just like it's just weird it's weird shit like it's been i would never i would never do something i'm not saying whenever because i definitely have um but it's been a year and a half um rocky will make his little stupid tiktok talking about how he oh i don't even know and then then connor will do it and then they'll think it's funny they'll do it together and then i just shut my mouth and then it's then it's constant so then i feel like i have to say

something and then it's back and forth it's just because like our lives like we'll go live and it's comments comments you see what he posted i don't have any of them on social media i don't have rocky on snapchat i don't have connor on snapchat i don't have kb on snapchat um their tiktoks will pop up on i have to make an account every week so their tiktoks pop on my for you page don't follow them don't keep up with them i generally have no interest yeah in involving myself into them as much people want to say i'm obsessed i don't remember the last time i've checked or typed in connor john rocky any of them i get it i get shit sent to me. Right. Oh, no, I know. People send me shit. So I don't purposely go the right way.

So we get to Nashville, and first night, super fun. Did we go out the first night? We went out the first night, fun. A little bit of, is that the night everything happened, the first night? Mm-mm. Okay, a little bit of drama. No, because I thought I had heard that you guys, like,

all made up or something, like, ran into each other. Like, the boys made up. I was invited. It's funny they try to say that we weren't, but I was invited to the house with the boys. Yeah. I was friends with Meg, and Meg was there. And Lane, I'm pretty sure it was Lane. Who invited you?

Lane. Lane, okay. And Meg, yeah. And they were just like, yeah, you can come over, whatever. Well, we thought that some other people were asleep. we walk up there we're we're both hammered like yeah but i was like stay back because like i'm gonna go and she's like just tell me like what's going on blah blah and i was like i'm nosy because i know they're all talking about me so i'm sure a part of you wanted to see connor too though right or no no we actually i'll be honest that we we wanted him to

stay inside it was everybody else actually we were invited we were told that connor was sleeping so that's why we could come over so before any of y'all bet to say anything we all know that's the truth um so so we walked up and then kb's like on the top screaming down i was like i'm not here for you but they're for your friend okay they all came down all came out all of them except they were all being nice they were like flirting with us and like being funny and having a conversation connor comes out it was a whole show that's and that's when you saw this girl here he was just she was talking to rocky the whole time does he act different when he's offline than when he's online he's still like that i don't even know we haven't hung out with him um i mean i do i how he talks

about women and how he talks in general is how he talks on and off social media it's sad i mean i don't know if i can get into his relationship with his mom and yeah let's not talk about that that type of stuff but yeah it's sad let's not well that's one thing we'll leave up we don't want to talk about people's families because, you know, if we keep it just here and what you guys have gone through, it's your side of the story. And then, like I said, Connor's always allowed to come on. You guys can come on together again.

I don't care. Like, you know, I just wanted everybody to feel like it's fair. You know, people wanted me to bring you guys on this podcast, and they're like, she better ask them this, da-da-da-da-da. And I'm just like, I'm not here to drag people. Like, that's not what I do and what podcast do you know brings their fucking guests on to fucking berate them and treat them like shit like that's not I would never do that you know so I think you guys just being here

telling your side of the story they can take it and if they don't like it they can fucking just write paragraphs on you know they're gonna do that like you know so it doesn't matter at least you're telling your side of the story but we'll leave the families out 100 okay so it's still talking about live i don't know how the hell we keep getting so she came i think they're like intertwined i know it's just like this shit happens but so we she came had a good night the first night um second night we went out there's a whole table of us taylor taylor holders like his birthday i just recently met he looks like a fucking like a hot cartoon barbie doll yeah it's crazy yeah like it's so weird ah chris is he your next victim someone did post that i'm not joking who did

oh god they literally put chris dank's next victim it was a picture of me and say oh my goodness yeah no we're all generally just really good friends um but uh we went out the second day and us girls so me and wendy talked about this we were just like just to avoid the drama because you genuinely really just want we went out with two other boys from social media that we met but we were trying to avoid everything but the girls that we went with were trying to hide that they were going to hang out with all the other boys they left us they didn't know they didn't tell us we all went up together they left us to go to the table and another part of the kb was trying to get us kicked out it doesn't make any sense because it's literally 19 years old but it was a really strong

i don't think she's been around all of them at the same time it wasn't that was the first time i saw connor since we broke up i had not been around all of them at the same time. That was the first time I saw Connor since we broke up. I had not been around. First time I saw Rocky. How did that make you feel to see Connor? It doesn't affect me, but I think when we had a conversation, it was hard. It was loud.

I would say yelling, but it was just music playing. He was like, like he told you, and you can cut this if you want, but he was just like, you made me want can cut up this if you want but he was just like you made me want to kill myself screaming at my face and I was like he told me that too and I don't think we need to cut that I think we need to that needs to be a huge part of this is that you know men go through things emotionally and that's why I still think Connor has feelings for you because he loved her yeah like he when they first and that's nothing to laugh at like we're not laughing at him for that at all you know like he love is first and that's nothing to laugh at like we're not laughing

at him for that at all you know like he love is love you can't help who you love when they were first arguing like that's why he was at my house yeah crying to me and like i hadn't been close with her so like i saw both sides and how like like it would frustrate her that he was upset so then she would like you know react to what he would say and it was go back and forth and he would sleep on my couch for a few days and i was like kristen you either need to tell him to go home or you need to fix it because she didn't want to be with him anymore i didn't i was she didn't know how to tell him because he would freak out right and it was on on me because that's not fair because that's a form of manipulation

yes it was when we broke up the first. He wouldn't leave my house. First time we broke up, he drove from Georgia because we lived, we did long distance. He drove from Georgia to Florida at like three in the morning and was like knocking on my door while I was sleeping. And I was like, Connor, I can't, I can't do this. This is exactly why I, he didn't do anything wrong the first time we broke up. I just, you know, when you just like emotionally detach yourself from someone, that's how I felt.

I was just, I couldn't do it. It was, it was exhausting, like emotionally exhausting. I hate to break it to you guys, but you're going to go through probably 10 more fucking relationships, you know? And I, and I hope you do because you're going to get married one day and fucking that's that, you know, have all the fun you can have now and don't worry about if love happens, it'll happen organically, you know,

and you'll know when it's the right time and when you're meant to be with somebody, you know, you guys literally are 22. How do you, you're 24, 22 and 24. I did younger and it's so bad.

Yeah. They're always so awful. Yeah. Like you guys have, there's so much living to do still that you guys have you know so it's okay to break up with people yeah that was the first night i had psalm since the second time we broke up we've only gotten back together once but that was like months after um we just kept slandering each other on social media so it's just constantly conversation it was

blocked they never actually communicated i have not since the day me and him broke up i have not had a separate enclosed conversation that a lot of people think that we do you guys will eventually when he's able to do it emotionally I think you guys will be able to then I saw him he was yelling at me he started crying and I was like I just it's like whatever and then Rocky came up to me and at the time I still fucking Rocky I know but he fits into it because it's part of it and i still was like kind of over him but like at the same time like like maybe um say it now what was it oh gosh was that they got together after that multiple times

multiple times not once it was at the it was at the uh no oh shoot what else when after that multiple times multiple times no once it was at the it was at the uh no oh shoot what else when after that he lived at your house still not not from nashville oh no i never got with him in just that one night i'm chilling actually for you i know okay so anyway so he came up to me he's like i love you and you. And I'm like, oh my God. Rocky's saying this. Yeah. I was like, I was like, still. Connor walks away crying.

Yeah. Connor walked. This all literally happened in like five minutes. Not joking. Are Connor and Rocky friends? Mm-hmm. Okay. Because of, whatever.

That's not my thing to say, but. But he sees his homie crying over you and he walks up to you and says, I love you. He does not give a shit. Oh. About anything. They wanted to look like, they wanted to come against me. They wanted to hurt me so bad. They really do.

They became friends. Friends. Shortly after, me and Rocky kind of like ended things. And him, KB, and Rocky all were like on, it was for Rock the South, I want to say it was. And they became all of a sudden best friends. Probably sucking each other soft, I'm sure. While it's soft. While it's, sorry, I'm going to say it.

Sucking while it's soft. Sucking it while it's soft. It's crazy. But they wanted it to hurt me so bad. And it truly did. I was so over all three of them. And I'm like, that's ridiculous. That's a lot, you know, to deal with.

And they say very hurtful things whereas when we come back at them, it's like a joke, like Sid the Sloth. Like that's fucking hilarious. Like Rocky looks like Sid the Sloth. I don't even know who that is but I could only imagine.

Ice Age from Ice Age. Oh my God. That thing? The one with the teeth oh my god that is so fucking funny mimi's over here losing it he knows it and he was even that for halloween this year so like that's how we joke them it's straight up like no trying to pick sex with her terrible her pussy stinks she doesn't connor literally said the other day i came up with my for you page she's saying that i are still to this day said that i don't wash myself connor said this i'm very unhygienic dude i mean you fucked me in the shower while i was washing myself i don't know i mean seriously that's genuinely like how it is that's just immaturity on his part it's very sad because i'm saying like they're dick small it still bothers them it just bothers me that connor comes to me crying about

mental health and um but you know being bullied and stuff like that but it's very disrespectful but to say that about a woman is very damaging and harmful you know and that could really hurt your feelings too it's just sad because that's how they choose to talk about women i gave rocky a place to stay yeah a very long time no and he was disrespectful i didn't never thank you never never even received um is it really that's what does rocky have parents uh yes um his dad passed away mom i don't know mom's here mom i think he lives with mom. I don't know. Mom's here. Mom's here. I think he lives with mom.

Yeah. I don't know about now, but. I think he lives here now. Mom's here. Dad passed away. The mom is so sweet. She really is. Yeah.

But he did grow up. I think the reason, honestly, I've never really talked about this. The reason why I was so, like, I guess in love with him or had a lot of feelings was because I was emotionally attached to him. I saw him cry in my bed, into my arms about family. I saw, he told me everything he went through in his life growing up very hard. Him and Jay saw us, his other best friend. It's really sad to see how social media has completely changed his mindset.

From the day you all started hanging out too very genuine kid he really he really is yeah so you know the different the other rocky i do and anyone of his old friends will say that yeah all of them i literally had them reach out to me dming me hey i know you don't know me but i'm rocky's hometown friend i'm sorry that he treated you like this or i'm sorry that whatever and it's really sad because i'm the type of person like she said she's the type of person i want to fix someone i want to be like i did that i turned him around do you think you were more emotionally attached to rocky than you were to connor and that's why it was like easier for you to break it off because we were the same people we had the same personality i mean he we joked around like it was nothing and i absolutely just he made me laugh all the time yeah he really did um and i

know i made him laugh whether he wants to admit it or not but it was it but it was such a toxic thing it wasn't like something that i shouldn't even be smiling it was so toxic that it was so sad that i it was my fault i went back i don't even he lived with me though so it was like easy and he has he said he was bored he was bored so that's't even he lived with me though so it was like easy and he has he said he was bored he was bored so that's why he had sex with me I'm not saying that I enjoyed it I thought and I genuinely had feelings for him yeah and I know at one point he did too whether he wants to admit it or not well that's what I was we've had separate conversations off the internet. Yeah.

Well, I mean, his homie's walking away crying and he's walking up to you saying, I love you. He went on vacation with me and my family. Yeah. I don't think that if he was just bored, he would do that. Right, for sure. Take me out, go swim with dolphins. I mean, that's so cute.

Do you still have feelings for Rocky? No. No. A hundred percent. I would say that truthfully. Yeah. No. Just because there's too much hurt.

It's disgusting. Too much. It's really disgusting how I sat back and let myself get treated like that. no no 100 i would say that truthfully yeah no just because there's too much hurt too much it's really disgusting how i sat back and let myself get treated like that and how long were you guys together off and on since january february february probably of this year until october august august so it was like but he was sleeping with other people i didn't sleep with one other person while i was sleeping with him he slept with many people yeah we've seen it i mean he's a young boy he is and he's gonna enjoy his life if he thinks he's hot and even if you guys are sleeping with other people too it's just like no and i'm not saying it's wrong because we weren't together technically but it's still so like mentally it fucks with you so bad because your option i hate that it does and he made me

feel like he liked me at one point and then he'd go sleep with his ex or and then he'd go fuck a girl for content and then come back like no like i really do like you so just yeah we just discovered that fucking connor had an only fans only because we're doing research for this thing that i'm going to tell you about when we're off the camera. Okay. And I was like, how is he talking shit about everybody when he's got an OnlyFans? I was like, holy shit, you know, like this is crazy. But, you know, to each their own. I have an OnlyFans, so I'm not talking shit, but I'm just saying like.

Proudly have an OnlyFans. Yeah, but I'm just saying like, you know, the judgment runs high, you know, for certain things, the hypocrisy. Okay, so moving on from Connor and Rocky, are you and Liv friends still or no? We really haven't hung out after that national trip because she ended up kissing Rocky, which. Oh. Oh, yeah, we never got back to that. She kissed Rocky that one night.

He did it on purpose right in front of my face. Grabbed her, made out with her, whatever. Didn't hurt me because I was honestly over him right but i was still like what the fuck but then it was and then i looked back at him like i guess i did that to her in a way so i don't really give a fuck it was like she knew i was upset not upset she knew she felt like she did something wrong which didn't do anything wrong but she felt like she did so she never let a guy come in between a friendship and that's i think that's where i was like what the fuck because we literally that night we hung out for the first time after everything happened we had a conversation about everything and we're like i genuinely cannot

believe we let two boys the size of my arm get in the way of our friendship and that was truthful and we apologized and we had a whole long conversation so when that happened i was just like was she drunk she doesn't drink like no so i don't i mean she could have been i think like i said like when he said they left us right um and went and hung out the table where we weren't invited all of them so even if she was drunk whatever it's i'm not upset i'm not mad i don't care i mean i was over that's i don't know if you've seen the video of me crying in the bathroom on the floor. I did. So it was from that night.

I had that happen. And Rocky told me he loved me. And then Connor told me that he wanted to kill himself because of me. And then I had KB. Taking us out. I feel like KB is always in the mix somehow. He's not even relevant. Seriously, he tries to put himself in it to make him seem like it.

I've known him for years. And he's not acting like that until recently. guys know this is all gonna blow over the older you guys get and you guys will all end up being friends again and probably some of you guys will end up fucking again and like it's all yeah like you guys are just in the thick of it right now and there's you guys will just end up growing up together you know and it's just it's just part of you guys's journey and part of your path Whitney where does all this play for you I feel like I'm just here I know I'm like I know what's Whitney doing all this is going on individually just separate from her so like I'm not I don't hate anybody I don't like dislike anybody and I haven't been with any of them right I have talked to them I think before her like me and Connor like flirted before they dated me and KB but like I never

ended up like I never met Connor till her right and then after I was just like I don't like the way that they treated her yeah so I mean I I like have her back and stuff i just don't you just don't get involved in the drama like she does we instigated christmas head went meryl i'm an instigator definitely but i just don't like but that's the best he does you know i just respond because i know that my comebacks are funny so i'm like i gotta use this we i got to i'm the one that made up so this is hilarious i mean it's hilarious and he and they don't like it at all he gets every time that i would post something or whatever he would always like but he could post right like no you're not gonna do that to my friend going left you know take it if you're gonna be stupid that's why they didn't want whitney coming on the podcast when you asked him they want to live because live is such a pleaser for

everyone she gets along with everyone she wants everyone to like her which is not a bad thing yeah i don't care if yeah everybody in the world hated me but my mom or her i wouldn't care they would have been saying something sideways and she's gonna say something or i'm gonna say something and they know we were gonna do that so that's why they did not want i mean you guys have the right to stand stand up for yourself oh'm not going to let dweebs. I mean, seriously, let them be nice.

All right. So can we talk about what the fuck is up with fly soldier and you? And I just need to clear the air because hold on a second. I saw somebody sent me a live where he said I invited him on the podcast. That's a lie. I can read our DMs right now. Well, everything he usually says

it comes out of his mouth no but he was showing our dms talking he was showing our dms so i and but he didn't let anybody read him so i'm gonna read him to you um he was dating my friend mj my girl mj she's um she's mj fresh they were together anyways they were beefing this is like back in April. MJ was coming on the podcast and he said that he wanted to come on the podcast. And I'm like, cool.

If fucking Island boy wants to come on, he can come on with you is what I said. I never invited him by himself and never put it in writing. Anyways, April 5th, they were beefing and he said, MJ is good. I got her.

Trust me. She's with me. I'm good. I said, take care of my, my baby, please. That's all I said.

He said, I will. please that's all I said he said I will and that's it never once asked him to come on the podcast nothing so that's a fucking lie whatever he said so I just wanted to clear the air I don't like how that I like his baby mama toxic fairy can come on I love that she's holding it down and fucking raising his kid without him I think that's amazing amazing yeah so yeah never invited him on the podcast do not care to have him once so you went live with him one random time i was in michigan uh i don't even know why i was at home but i was at home he invited me to go live with him i was on live just chilling in my bed or whatever and we talked thought he was freaking hilarious but then he would just like he's very

he's very abusive to women it's um i And I will talk shit because I've seen it. Like, you never know what you're gonna get when you're talking to him. Well, he's on drugs. Have you met him in person? No, I haven't. Okay. But I have been on FaceTime and gone through so much shit with MJ when he has just done the most fucked up shit to her. I don't know their side of their relationship.

I have met him. He came to Miami. Actually, he lives there. And off camera, I'll be honest, a very sweet genuine person and now i'm not just i'm not putting against what he's done to women i can yeah yeah 100 see that he has said some very rude things to mean whitney made 300 pounds i said it's just like weird like he'll go from like being really sweet to like really just he went to our birthday thing miami and he was cool he's very sweet when no cameras around he was so sweet he then as soon as he left right on live and

talking i'm talking anything that he can say about us he said well not me but her it was really sad i was like dude we should like no issues no drama like literally nothing happened um but i just think he is a he literally said well he takes a lot of xanax so he probably doesn't realize what's going on he's really barred out you think yeah have you seen him take xanax no he's oh yeah he doesn't do drugs or anything no he does it's not that not that hard yeah um i think he's gone through a lot in his life that's what he says but i also don't think he knows what the fuck he's doing yeah he has a child that's absolutely freaking

flexes so much money and it's just like we don't we don't say anything about like money unless someone like obviously asks us yeah but it's like you're wearing two watches yeah you know what time it is yeah but but he'll fight with his baby mom but he'll even read them and he just wears them definitely he's waiting for the digital clock to come in the center of it but he'll fight with his baby mama on live um and she'll say that he doesn't support them and fucking he like holds money over mj isn't his baby mama no so he toxic fairy i don't know was before is mj the darker haired one and then yes beautiful woman yeah mj's gorgeous i was like and she's cool as fuck like she's online

she might seem a little like oh no she i think she made a post about me one time because he made it seem like i was talking shit about her on a live and i was like girl i literally said i remember i was at my friend gavin's house she was in the live or someone was talking about her. And I literally looked up her Instagram and I was like, how did you pull that? How did he pull her? I said the same thing whenever she told me she was dating him. I was like, oh, God, because she's like my little sister, you know? So she always hits me for advice. She's my little Virgo, too.

So she just I love her to death. And, you know, just like you guys, I love seeing the younger generation just do the fucking thing, you know, like to me younger generation just do the fucking thing you know like to me that just makes me so happy and when she told me she was dating him i was like why what is happening i was like please he's also like two feet tall yeah well i literally was bench press and his hair does add like three inches but whatever all right cool so you never hooked up with fly soldier oh my god no okay thank god i mean mj did and she already knows how i feel about that but um so did you have sex did you have sex on live fuck i knew this was gonna come up so no and i don't know how the hell that even came about we were on vacation with my family that

was the time we were on vacation with my family we were uh that was the night that live that's the night that live went that was the night that live that's the night that live went that was the night that live disney i think we went to universal with my family that was the night that had live had um went on uh live and just completely berated me and shit like that but no we were just chilling on live um he was like touching me who was it rocky yeah yeah but we did not full-on just i saw the video because whenever she had said that we she found the video for me because i was like let me see the video you know because i don't know i've asked her like personally behind the scenes like oh i can tell me yeah no i was like i would have

told her grabbing you probably that's what i said that's what i said it looks like he was like behind you yeah he's probably like we're literally in the shower and she's like no like you can tell me i'm like whitney i swear to god you do not have sexual intercourse on live because she's like not she's like weird about like where she does it like she doesn't just go out in public i don't even do explicit content on only fans to the point where like i would just start fucking someone on live right at all i would not do that i mean at least if you're gonna do that get a motherfucking bag baby that's literally what i said when i saw that post being made i was like i get paid yeah for that shit yeah i saw the video and i even told her i was like they're not fucking you know i've had like you could tell

she's like laughing like and then they made a thought but like yeah i know rocky is he's like so many people asking that too and they're like did you fuck i'm like no yeah evidently that was like a big controversy and i saw the no it was it was a big thing i saw the video and i was like these motherfuckers will literally take the smallest thing and they're saying i was doing it with someone that was um mentally disabled on there i was like i don't even know who i was on live with at the time yeah let's talk about that I guess there's a huge thing where they said that you were talking about mentally disabled people or something like that did we ever see that video no it wouldn't come up no that was the racist one oh I guess they were saying that you

were making fun of people with disabilities or something they will say i i genuinely have never done that my mom and sister both work with um impaired children at a at a school and i've never i i know i'm pretty dumb but i also know my limits on and off social media i know that i'm would never speak negatively on that so no i believe i've just they come up with the fucking craziest shit dude what about the racism thing i'm homophobic but my best friend is african-american i've it it's it's yeah it's incredible everybody can be like yeah saying stuff constantly about racism and like the things that you say or whatever but i got called a racist for saying trap house like it was just crazy to me.

I'm an animal killer because my hamster died. It wasn't even her hamster, actually. What happened with the hamster situation? Because that was a question on her, too. Be for real. Actually, ripped nibbles. I was like, I was going to be like, please tell me you did not starve the hamster. Yeah, seriously.

No, she wasn't even living. I didn't starve. She was literally at my house most of the time. I didn't starve. In Michigan. The hamster had food. the hamster had water the hamster was well taking okay the hamster was taken care of now we obviously went on vacation certain times but like the hamster did we didn't just sit there and just let the thing rot right i'm not i don't know where people would come up with that genuinely but i didn't just i didn't just

like yeah i'm gonna choose to kill you today yeah just not feed you right but yeah we just honestly we just joke around way too many times the times when we're supposed to be serious right but you know kelsey perfectly kelsey was on here yesterday so cute she's adorable and she's actually really cute in person too don't tell her that though i accidentally adorable. And she's actually really cute in person too. Don't tell her that though. I accidentally was like, you know, you're so cute in person because online you're not. And then I was like, you know, that sounds terrible. Let me not say that. But she was telling me why she had gotten canceled and she got canceled for naming a fucking flower Shaniqua, you know? And to me, it's just like the world is so sensitive. And it's like if you have any sort of a little bit of a personality, it's cancel it.

Cancel these 100 percent because you're not allowed to be a smart ass. You have to be serious about everything. Like, I feel like everybody fucking ate glue as children. Like something picked while I made a video of TikTok of which I've seen so many people do, of the faucet being on and you hold a towel and you have to get the towel around the faucet. Yeah. Waste of water. You know kids are not like, everywhere need water.

I'm like, yes, I know that. I'm so sorry. Yeah. No, but we and her, that's why we're hated so much but loved so much because we don't care. Can't get canceled if you don't care. I've been trying to get canceled. I'm a phobic.

Racist. We know the truth. We know we're not like that right and anyone that why do they think you guys are homophobic um i mean i'm yeah oh no they think that we what's the word what's the lesbian fish or what's the i don't know where some word that because we okay first of all i find her obviously like he hello attractive like she's my best friend ever hooked up no no we make out we don't actually anymore because like my ex like at the time like we would kiss and he'd get like really upset so i just i don't like her ex so i'll do it again but but like never like i mean i think men who get upset when friends are kissing or that's a red flag yeah i'll kiss the thing is i love kissing when i have girls 100 but it's no like in a sexual way like i'm not gonna go home with one if that

makes sense i have no hate against like she she's literally hooked up with a girl and like i have just it's not my interest but i'm never going to shame absolutely anyone ever for having that interest that's just not me i love gay people yeah all my like basically all my friends forget hilarious i love them it's like i don't see many different and i grew up in a very christian household where is my and we support it whole i'm like please date women over men like if i think honestly if i didn't meet another girl that i was like it's it's not even like is it a girl is a guy i don't care it but that I was like, it's not even like, is it a girl, is it a guy? I don't care.

But it's just like the way that we click together. Like if I am treated the way that I want to be treated, I'm going to be with a girl if I want to be with a girl. If somebody makes you feel good, it doesn't matter what their gender is. 100%. I agree. Love who you want to love. Everyone has their own opinions and everything, but don't ever let it affect you. I 110%, my girlfriend, in the beginning when we were dating

has treated me better than anybody has ever treated me so it was like you guys ever get back together we were on and off a little bit it was more like i was still in high school so i was back and forth between like my sexuality a little bit so like she was also we were both getting big so it was like how they were do we we know? Her name is Michelle Lundy. Okay. I don't know. Do you know who she is? She got canceled a while ago, too.

What'd she get canceled for? Being racist. Oh, my God. Which she's not either, but words came out, and they took it the wrong way. So I just think that, I don't know girl i love girls too so she's like maybe possibly if you guys yeah i just had a really bad experience yeah she was she was back and forth like with drugs and her body like type and i just saw a lot of things that she would do behind social media that like she made a workout

plan she wasn't working out like it's it was and she was making so much money off of it and like finessing the system basically and i was just like watching it and i was like you don't even do those things and you're selling these plans to people and making them think that they're gonna lose this weight by starving themselves or by like like it was really bad it was but she was like losing weight through five hands and adderall and i'm like really big against drugs like do drugs if you want to do drugs but i have never i have smoked weed but i will not touch a drug in my life like i'll have a headache all day and it will take me as much to take it out like if she gives it to me i'll take it but like i will not take anything i'm the same way that's how i am yeah like no and i have to see where the pills come from before i

swallow them like i have insanely bad anxiety with pills and swallowing them even but yeah do you guys battle any mental illness or depression anxiety stuff like that yeah i know you said you were pretty stable and it hasn't hit you like that. Yeah. I've never been depressed. I think, honestly, I probably should probably see a doctor. I think I'm bipolar. Yeah.

But it doesn't really affect me. Like, I'm sad at times, but never, like, low. You think you're bipolar because you have, like, manic mania and stuff like that. But I think that it's, like, she's really bad at, she thinks everything stresses her stresses her out she's really bad at doing there's something has to be done um more than one thing has to be done at the same time she's like freak out but i take it out on like my friends and like i like it doesn't affect me because i'll just be like you know when you why the fuck you're talking to me like that but um i have really bad attitude but i also know that it that is how she is as a person so I can work with it but sometimes I'll realize it and I'll step back I'll call my mom like I probably see a doctor or something she's like yeah well you need to get blood work done or whatever but I'll

notice it and then I'll cry about it for a second because I'm like I'm treating my friends like really bad and like I don't know how to handle it and like she'll just be like just like chill out like just like because I have I um hired and my best friend's my assistant and she I basically just put everything on her and it's helped me a lot so yeah it's just like my brain just necessarily bipolarness I think it might just be you just get overwhelmed very easily very easily lash out so I get like that sometimes too like if there's a lot going on i freaking freak out i freaked out on mimi in the car when we were driving whenever you were reading those text messages i was like just keep reading yeah because i was under stress you know so i don't i don't know if that's would be considered bipolar but you know always get blood work done yeah you

know my brother was diagnosed oh was he or so oh okay with the Tourette's and bipolar oh yeah manic depression so it's like I don't know if it runs in the family yeah get your blood work done it's always good to get checked what about you do you battle that stuff uh very I'm doing incredibly so much better now but um she can't sleep that's the one thing I have really bad restless legs I can't sleep horrible but like sleeping meds like I don't even deficiency yeah She needs to start working out more is what she needs to do. I don't. I try.

I don't like smoking. I don't like the way it makes me feel. I don't like anything that makes me feel like an out-of-body experience. Yeah, me too. The sleeping meds, they put me on. My therapist, I took it once. I hated it. So I can't sleep at all for shit.

I really can't sleep. And when she does go to sleep, she sleeps like, if I don't wake her up, she'll sleep all day. Yeah, but when I first moved to Florida, it was about a- That's a form of depression, though, too, sleeping all day. I struggle. I struggle. I really do struggle really bad.

And she does try to help me a lot. I'm really stubborn, too, when it comes down to it. But then she has FOMO a little bit when I'll go and do stuff. Like, I'll go to the mall. I want to go. Like, she, like, it's getting better. Yeah. Like, I'll have to the mall I want to go like she's like it's it's getting better yeah like I'll have to tell her like you're going to the gym with me she'll get out and go yeah that's good for your mental health too it really is she is so she's helped me a lot

but about two months before I moved to Florida um so near August I just started getting really bad panic attacks but I didn't know what it was i do have heart problems i do take metoprolol it's nothing crazy i just have a really high heart rate um just normally you're just born with that yeah it it runs in my family so that has that could have a lot to do with your anxiety i think it does because i didn't i didn't like i could feel my heart rate speeding up and then i'd have a panic attack but i didn't realize i had anxiety um but i didn't want to believe it because i was so mad at my cardiologist um for like being like it could be anxiety I'm like no like please there's something wrong with me and so they finally listened and then I finally still had like these panic attacks at the time I didn't know what they were I couldn't drive I didn't drive for probably six months yeah I did

not drive at all I could not get into a car her car would just sit in the park like but like I've never been like that I've always loved to drive loved long trips i've loved traveling all that type of stuff it was like gradually though she would like pull to the side of the road and be like i need help i should call us i just like someone come pick me up i can't make it i get it at night like going through like intersections i'm like oh my god please don't hit me yeah i hate driving and i couldn't i literally could not like leave my house i she was there one time when i went to a i would literally have to like i would i wouldn't even tell her I was coming I would just come pick her up like get in the car I finally couldn't I couldn't take anymore and I went to a therapist got on Lexapro took about

three months I went and stayed in Michigan for like not three months sorry three weeks I went and stayed for Michigan um with my family until the medicine kicked in because I felt so bad I felt so lonely I felt horrible and a lot of it has to do with how I have been treated in the past and how I've gone through a lot in social media and stuff like that that I just felt like I know I'm not alone but like I felt so alone felt singled out you know for sure do you feel better now are you still on lexapro I'm still I will not probably not stop taking that it just helps so it really you so much it really does i'm on the highest dose i'm on my heart medication i'm straight chillin i really am it's wonderful i can travel i can do anything um so it's wonderful it really

has helped a lot that's amazing yeah so dating are you guys dating anybody right now are you guys both single singles fuck single i'm not i have a few options but there is one there's one that then i could see myself with but he's on social media yeah boy good what is your type kristen okay so i do because you know everybody's listening right now and now that they know you're saying that you guys are saying oh they all know all the guys hate me i mean all of them pussy stinks apparently um god it doesn't by the way um i would not take a whiff i mean i sleep with her and i'm with her take shower some of their friends would know no you can smell a dirty pussy you can smell a dirty through pants i've had a few friends anyways it's disgusting i'm gonna need help with my time

my type okay i definitely love the brown haired light eyes 100 me too um but also obviously like abs but like i don't care about that but like it's just hot to look at obviously but i mean i don't give a shit personality 100 i know i'm really easygoing really freaking hilarious especially with her if they don't have like a personality it's like talking to a brick wall just don't even talk to me yeah you just want someone to make you laugh yes i take anybody that can make me laugh over fucking abs any day any day yeah any day 100 but what about you whitney i've had a few different. I think I have two sides. I have the fisherman handyman.

Because I have my own house. So if we start hanging out, take me on dates, whatever, that's fine. But if you come to my house and you're fixing shit, get in the bed. Just a turn on. Yeah. I'm just saying, the washer's broken. Dudes are going to come in and nothing's going to be wrong with your house

and they're just like, let me fix your fridge for you. But if you're like, if you see me like cleaning and like, like struggling, fixing something, you're just sitting there.

Yeah. Call your dad. I'm like, really? That's, you're not my husband. Yeah. So,

but my other type would be country boys, like hunting. Yeah. Just dudes that are with, got their hands dudes that are with got their hands dirty that can get their hands dirty very respectful i'm having a hard time finding respectful men uh it's it's sad see how these people do you guys stay older younger what do you like baby face you like baby faces baby faces i don't like facial hair i like both like sometimes like if

it's like cleaned up like well like it looks good i like baby faces too but i'm a baby face person yeah it's all clean shaved sometimes like i've only dated okay i kind of dated a i would say like 28 was the oldest and then 25 and i had bad really really bad experience with them so i never really dated older i mean i guess connor was older than me by eight days but i've never actually been on like a real date so i never really like dated dated oh you need somebody to take you on a real date okay i've never had someone we're basically dating them i feel like dating is so fucking weird though you have to sit across the table from each other and just chew like it's just weird like who wants to see another like take me to something fun the arcade is the move yeah or bush gardens but the thing is me and whitney together i mean separately too but like

we're really good at like just engaging in conversations being very out there like i won't make you feel awkward i'm going to probably make fun of you at first yeah but i'm hoping you do the same to me will either of you date caden? The silence was so strong. He's, I feel like he's looking for love. I think that I could, but I don't, I don't,

yeah, I would see him as a friend right now. Yeah. I'm not really looking at the moment. I'm like so emotionally detached from like men. Yeah. What about Jaden? Which one?

Armor. Armor. Yeah. Yeah. He's a cutie pie right he's so cute he has to have either of you hooked up with him no i don't think he's like that either he's like the type that doesn't hook up with people in the group oh really okay gotcha but he's yeah he's probably got a lot of options oh i'm sure you guys do too though you know like you guys aren't looking really outside of your group right now because you guys are dealing with a bunch of bullshit but i'm sure there's so much love for you guys online too that outweighs the

bad it just sucks that we pay attention to the bad you know it does because it's always there and it's hard to focus on the positive when you're constantly just being brought down by the negative yeah absolutely but you guys do have a lot of people who fucking love the shit out of you guys like you know don't ever think that just because those people over there are fucking miserable there's millions and millions of more people that are really invested in you guys a story and are like fascinated by you guys you guys are like role models for girls your age right now you know so that's why everybody's watching you guys as every fucking move. How does that feel?

That's got to be like pretty heavy on your shoulders. I don't know. We don't really even think about it sometimes. Like we just post to post and then we realize that when we go out in places that like we really do get noticed everywhere we go. And we love it. We really do. And we know that we do have a big impact

on a lot of women because i know a lot of women have gone through the same shit i've gone to except off social media i haven't gone through like with the boys i haven't gone through anything traumatic with them like something that people like how did you do it no it's just a simple breakup he cheated on me he treated me like shit talked like that mentally abusive verbally abusive everyone goes through that in some form of relationship but to see it unfold on social media how we react how they react it does it makes people open their eyes and be like i never want to go through something like that and this is how they cope through it this is what i should not do should not go on social media and make a fool out of you know ourselves and stuff

like that so people learn a lot of stuff through our mistakes in life and i think that's so cool but i also think that people don't understand that we're willingly putting ourselves human out on social media to be judged but also that we are going to make mistakes right so but i think it's really cool that i didn't think i'd be known or had people come up to me and all of going an olive garden last night we're shoving breadsticks in our face and someone's like oh my gosh it's so cool though it really is and my parents love it they love when i go out and they're like oh my mom's they're looking at your drama they're so invested your mom is in the drama both of our parents are like i'll give us a tea yeah like who's here like today are they on the

website do they read the website oh i don't know if my mom does my my mom does oh she hates it she's she's always like are you okay i'm so opposed my mom i haven't looked at today don't worry about a girlfriend i'm good yeah they're in it they see everything moms are so invested into it but they support you guys you know like have your backs and stuff that's amazing they're like you're old enough to make your own decisions you're gonna do what you're gonna do if you can handle it do it yeah you guys are fully supporting yourselves whitney you said you have your own decisions you're gonna do what you're gonna do if you can handle it do it yeah you guys are fully supporting yourselves Whitney you said you have your own house right so you guys are making money off of social media correct and off your only fans and stuff like that how is only fans for you guys great great never had to complain I don't you don't even go on it like

um our assistant we have assistant they make it does it well you're whatever yeah yeah so awesome love that so it's just doing great for you guys well what does 2023 hold for you guys we got a new year coming up do you guys have any goals that you want to accomplish next year um i want to start my merch and one day hopefully open up a clothing like business or like line or something like that because i know i can do really well with that with the interactions i have on social media yeah for sure what about you i want to open a doggy bar i have four dogs at home yeah i saw them they're so cute and they're so i i love i love dogs i

love animals i love taking care of animals like but i i i mean drinking and dogs it's a great combination okay so you want like people to be able to go to the bar hang out and then just have dogs there i'm also gonna say it is a lot of um a lot of um what's the word i'll say like i don't know the word you know like because if dogs fight or, like, drinking. Insurance. That's right. Liability. Liability. There we go. I also want to make a goal for her as well.

Her singing. She's amazing at singing. I want her to perform. Can you sing something for us? She's like, no. She's really amazing at it. Thank you. I want her to perform.

I try. You got to do it. Strike while the iron's hot too while you have all these eyes on you like start doing it they just made a song so whenever that comes out it's gonna do really well and she's performing it so yeah i just don't a lot of like the music like a lot of people that do music yeah but like i don't like know how to like reach out you know what i mean like i have obviously like friends and stuff that sing but but it just starts with, you know, it just start dropping your shit on TikTok.

That's all you need to do. First, just start dropping it and building a fan base on TikTok and then go from there. You'll figure it out. Trust me. It'll figure it out for you. I'm going to see how this song does. And yeah, let's go from there. Well, I'm excited to hear it.

Why don't you guys shout out your socials where if people aren't following you, they can know where to find you and shout out your only fans too. Can I grab my phone to do that? Of that because i don't think i know my handle for mine is um whitney rend one basically on everything yeah so no mine's kristen whitman as well mine's grim's kristen underscore whitman my only fans is kristen underscore women as well actually so gotcha feel free to subscribe yeah go subscribe Go subscribe babies. Well, I am so happy that you guys came by and I can't wait to see what you guys do, you know, in these next coming years. Like I'm really excited to see what you guys do with your brand and stuff like that. So thank you guys for coming on the podcast. Anytime. I'll come back tomorrow. I'll bring you guys back

every year. I bring back my guests every year just to have them come check in and just see the growth and all that and the journey. We want to follow the journey and you guys have enough motherfuckers invested so absolutely you'll definitely want to know what you're up to thank you thank you guys though thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of dumb blonde i will see you guys next week bye