Dumb Blonde - Danielle Sylvester: Teenage Runaway to Best-Selling Author

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

This week, Bunnie sits down with Danielle Sylvester, a raw and real storyteller who's gone viral on social media for good reason. Danielle shares her wild journey of dropping out at 14, running away by 16, and getting into dancing at a young age. She gets brutally honest about her past including messy relationships, battling addiction, and the realities of parenting with empathy, respect, and clear boundaries. Danielle’s wife, Tina, also joins in to share the juicy story of how they met, their relationship dynamic, and the secret behind their lasting love. Danielle’s new book, Not a Dr. Just a Mom, is out now and it's a must-read about parenting and relationships in general.Danielle: TikTok | Book | IG Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Bunny has grown. long time coming. Yeah, she has a great story. I can't wait for you guys to hear it I can't wait to hear it Danny Sylvester in the house, baby. Hi everybody. It's nice to be here. I'm so excited. It's Finally here. It's seriously to you She was supposed to come on the podcast a couple weeks ago, but I fucking got got the neurovirus for beating some oysters Oh, it was from oyster She was supposed to come on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, but I fucking got the neuro virus for being some oysters. Oh, it was oysters. I I'm assuming, but I'm telling you, I've only gotten sick. I've been eating oysters my whole life.

I've only gotten sick off oysters twice. And that neuro virus virus was the second time. And I didn't know that oysters caused fucking neuro virus until. And then I felt so much better, though, because you're like, I've had this. It's all right. I get it. And I'm like, I've had this, it's all right, I get it, and I'm like, how long did it last? Yeah, I'm like, oh God, it was awful. We ran through our house, our whole entire house had it,

and then unfortunately we gave it to one of our kittens. Yeah, when you told me that I was like, oh, because Chachi had been laying with me the whole time, so I was like, oh my God, I hope this fucking dog does not ever feel like I did. Look at him, he's just like, oh. this is why we tell him we're going to work because he's literally grown up sitting here. I know I love him. No, he's a big fan of his. He's the best. I'm so happy that

you're here because I stumbled upon you probably like two years ago. Yeah. And I was like, Who is this beautiful beast? I was like, she is so gorgeous, but not only that, like, I just love that, you know, you're married to Tina. You guys are very, you know, like, hey, this is our relationship. This is who we are. If you don't like us, we don't give a fuck.

You know, and because TikTok can be so fucking brutal. And then I also love the relationship with your daughter, too. I think it's just amazing. And so I would like to learn a little bit about you. Oh So let's take it back. You grew up in you were you grew up in Maryland, right? I grew up in Maryland by my mother a single mom of five. I'm the middle and You know, we house hopped a lot as I just came out with that story of showing everybody

where I lived. And yeah, it was a it was big struggles. But I learned how to make a community within my circle. And that was my brother, my sister, and now my younger sister and brother. And I think that helped me become who I am today. But I don't know. Were you close with your mom? Growing up, I developed this type of,

I don't know how to really explain it. So my mom was very physically abusive, verbally abusive. And to all five of you or just you? All of us, all of us, all of us. And as a white woman in Maryland having biracial children and friends like not accepting her because she has black children and the black community not accepting her

because she's white, it just was really hard for her. So I don't think that she knew how to navigate those emotions and feelings. So she took it out on us. Mom, I'm sorry if you are hearing this because I know we are in a better place today. So this is just. I think it paints a picture of the journey though, also of like the growth and we'll get to that point with your mom too. But I mean, what happened in the past is when we talk about how we are today, it's just we're better. But it took a long time for us to get here. It's there was a lot of times where social services were called because we're dirty. We're not fed well. She was a white woman didn't know how to take care of, you know, mixed

children's hair. So we went to school with our hair nappy. Sometimes we went to school with cat pee and cat poop on our clothing. And was she always gone because she was working to a lot. It worked a lot. But whenever social services came, I feel like I'm like all over the place, not like telling in the story. But you're okay. You're good. You're painting a picture. Whenever social services would come, we would run, we would hide. And that is where the question of, did you have like a great relationship with your mom comes in? It's like, I don't know if it was a great relationship. I just knew my loyalty lied to her. It doesn't matter how often she beat us, how

often she said horrible things to us, how often we didn't eat. I still loved my mom. Like in my eyes, she was God to me. She was all you knew. She was all me and my siblings and my mom were all we knew at that time because the outside world didn't accept us as often. I mean, they didn't accept us as much as I would like to say that they did, but. Was there segregation? Is that the right word in Maryland during that time? I don't necessarily want to say that was segregation. I think that was a lack of insight on people's upbringing.

I think that, like, we, I went to school with white kids, Asians and black kids, but being mixed was a different world because you didn't know exactly where you fit. Where you belonged. It's the black kids knew exactly who they were, their upbringing, how to do their hair, how to dress, how to speak. White kids knew exactly what to do in the same elements. But when it came to me, I was like, okay,

I have a single white mom raising me the best that she can. And I lack this part of my identity. And it was hard. It was hard. Did you ever get to meet your dad or did you? I guess so. I did get to meet my dad a few times. And when I was younger. And every time I interacted with him, it was just chaotic.

My mom. My mom has told us horrible stories about my dad. And then when we met him, we were terrified. We were scared. We were like, oh my God, he's gonna kill us. He's gonna beat the shit out of you. We were told at one point that my dad tried to assassinate us and that's why we left or she moved.

And it was just, it was very chaotic. And then it's just hurtful for parents to lay that on their kids' shoulders at such a young age. And that is why I am the parent that I am when it comes to talking shit about my child's father. Yeah, I. Now that I'm a little older, I mean, she's a little older. We can have honest conversations because she's dealing with the adult version of him. Right. But growing up, I did not tell her shit. Yeah, because you learned about how that made you feel as a child. Yeah, it was it was it was insane.

It was crazy. But to your siblings, were you like the protector? Who what was your role in the family? I am the little big sister. No, I am the little big sister. I am. The middle, but my big brother and my big sister look at me as their parent, parental figure, I should say. And then my little siblings look at me as their big sister.

So it's a different dynamic with both of them because we come from different litters. My brother, my sister and I, we have the same father and mother. And then my little brother and my little sister have the same mother and same father. Gotcha. It's all right, I get it. And then my little brother and my little sister have the same mother and same father. Gotcha. It's all right, I get it.

There's four of me and my family and we all have different, my sister who's from my mom and then my brother who's from my dad, different mom. And then I have my younger sister who's from my stepmom and my dad. So I get it. It's hectic, it's crazy.

I feel like when were you born? What year? 84. Yeah, okay, so I'm 80. So it's like that generation of parents, like what the fuck was wrong with them? What the fuck was going on in the eighties? They just wasn't given the tools. No, it's not even not. They weren't given the tools, but even if they were given the tools, they're not going to fucking apply them. They're the most honorary generation I've ever met. Yeah. Like they are so honorary. Like they think they the tools, they're not gonna fucking apply them. They're the most honorary generation I've ever met. Like they are so honorary.

Like they think they know everything and they didn't do anything wrong and they only raised you the best they knew how. Cause life was what it was. It was so black and white for them. And now there's so many different areas to explore. There are so many different people. There's outlets where you can actually learn

and educate yourself. So they're just like, no, that's new. That new generation is now. New age, they call it like the new age. The new age, like what are you learning? Growing up, whenever CPS was called so many times, did you guys ever get taken from your mom? No, we never got taken away from my mom.

So scary though to have these people invading your privacy. It was, it was very scary. But we never were taken away from my mom, but we did get placed on her. We were living in hotels or we got evicted. So there was many times where we were living with my mom's best friends or aunts, uncles, my mom's boss. Just no stability.

Yeah, no. None. My brother moved out when he was 15. My sister moved out when she was originally 14. I went with my first family when I was 11 and stayed and then went back with my mom and then I completely left when I was 16. So it was a lot of misplacements but never taken away in the system. Right, correct. Resolve to earn your degree in the New Year

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How is education? No. It seems like it was just complete chaos. Chaos. My mom instilled work ethics and not education. I quit school ninth grade. I have a ninth grade education, which I went back and got my GEDay. Yay. Good for you.

But school was not a priority at all. If I woke up and was like, oh, I don't feel like it. She's just like, make sure the house clean, make sure that you take the food out. That's it. Wow. It was not a priority at all. My daughter is one of the first in my siblings generation that graduated high school.

No, I love that. That speaks volumes of the mom that you are. I can't wait to get to her. So you said that you got pregnant when you were 16. So, or no, I'm sorry. You moved out when you were 16. Take me all the way up to there. So you know, you're not going to school, you dropped out in ninth grade, which was like

14. What's 15? Yeah, what's going on in that whole area of time? Nothing. I just, you know, I was getting suspended every other week. I was fighting. I just didn't find interest in school. Even growing up, it was just hard to even get my homework assignments done, because I didn't have anybody to help me with my assignments. I was in speech because I had a crazy lisp, which I still struggle with today. So school was just hard. It was just very hard for me. And there was a point where I just stopped going to school and my mom really didn't care. And I got a job with her at a convenience store. It was a gas station. And I just remember my mom always saying,

if you work hard, like me, my mom's working three jobs. She was working at Cracker Barrel Highs, and I think it was like a cleaning service at this time. It was like, if you work hard like me, you could just have money and you can do this. And I'm just like, this is not living, like, girl. Like, what the fuck is this? I feel like, mom, what the fuck is this? And I was working at Heise.

I came home one day and I was like, you know what, mom? I'm going to make you dinner. I called her on the phone. I was like, mom, where can I take the ground beef out? And can I make you burgers? And she was like, sure, just make sure that you clean up. So in my head, and it's kind of crazy because I think about this now, because to say I clean as I cook, so do I.

I clean as a cook. I. It drives me crazy when people cook and don't clean up after themselves as they're going. Like, how do you do that? It drives me insane. But I don't even think after themselves as they're going. Like how do you do that? It drives me insane. But I don't even think it's because that's my- It's trauma. I want it. Well it's trauma.

It's because my mom came home that day, I asked her if I could make her hamburgers for dinner and I presented her with a plate. Apparently I just did not clean up. I didn't, I know I didn't. But she just said, God damn it, Junyo. It's a fucking mess. And she's she took the plate of burgers through it.

She and I got into an argument. And I at that moment, at 16, I was like. Bitch, I'm the fuck out of here. No, I'm not calling you, bitch. I'm out of here. In that time, that's what you were thinking. I tried to calling you bitch. I'm out of here. In that time, that's what you were thinking. I tried to call my brother. She cut the phone line so I couldn't contact my brother because I was like, I'm on my way. And I walked, I walked maybe 10 miles.

Wow. Like 10 miles, 16 in the middle of the night. Oh, and she didn't care she let you go or she did not ever come for me Wow No, not that in a way that in a sense is kind of us that in a way is kind of a sense of an abandonment Yeah, you know because when your parents don't come after I I was opposite I would run away and my parents would file police reports to cover their own ass They didn't really want me home, but it was like if they wanted to look to the, you know, community like they were caring parents, so they would file the fucking performance

parents. But yeah, but it's still hurtful when you leave and your parent is just lets you go. Yeah, I was already in Philadelphia when she decided that she wanted to come and see me and see how I was doing. It was probably like nine months after I left. Wow. Nine months. So what did you do when you left at 16? I walked to my best friend's house, called my brother, went to his house. I stayed with him and his wife for a very long time.

I ended up trying to sell drugs to provide for me. And I met my child's father, Thierry's dad. And he was like, you're beautiful. I'm like, I wanna be a model. He was like, I'm from Philly. I have these connections. So of course I went with him. I was like, you know what? You're gonna make me a superstar. So of course I went with him.

I was like, you know what? You're gonna make me a superstar. You're gonna make me a model. You're gonna make me, my big dreams come true. Like this big Philadelphia guy. And- And this was how long after you left home? Probably like six, six to seven months.

Okay, so it happened all in the same time frame. Like the whole first year. Yeah. I was, so it happened all in the same time frame. Like the whole first year. Yeah. I was so it happened. How old was he? Okay. Because you're 16. I was 16 when I first met him. And I heard Tina giggle over there. I was 16 when I first met him. But when we moved to Philadelphia, I was 17. He told me he was 22.

I didn't find out he was 30 until his sister was like, you know, he's married. Do you know he he's he's not 20 something years old. Right. Oh, my gosh. A 30 year old with a 16 year old. Well, yeah. He's not 20 something years old, right? Oh my gosh.

A 30 year old with a 16 year old. Well, yeah. I just got goosebumps. That's rough. So he pretty, I don't wanna say anything bad, but he kind of preyed on you. Yeah, so him and I, we have talked about it. We talked about it on my podcast

and Theory was kind of shocked about all these details that were coming out and I was grateful that I didn't tell that story because it was his story to tell about where he was coming from and um I love that you allowed him that space to do that. Thank gosh because if not I feel like if would have, because a lot of people wouldn't have given that grace, I, I. I, it was, it was a challenge. It was a challenge. It was a challenge. How did that? OK, so OK, let's we'll we'll get to that in a second.

But so he is 16, you're 16. He's 30. You, how long after you guys were together, did you find that out? So, so, so he was 29 when I was 16. Okay. I was 17 and then he turned 30. Okay. Um, still the same thing, Danielle.

Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I love that you are trying to make it sound a little better, but there's nothing you can do to make it.

There is nothing. My dad married, listen, my dad was 30 something years old and married a 17 year old. So I get it. I 36 actually, I think he was 36 when he married. I do that because, um... I do it because I want to protect an image for my child's sanity. Of course, and we'll go lightly on that situation, but I do think it's part of your story.

It is. And, you know, people need to see, like, how far you've far you've come in life. And this isn't to bash him at all. Oh no, no. Back then it was like, I don't know, we can cut this out if it doesn't fit, if we can't say it on social media, because I know we have to. I'm all over anyway.

But back then I feel like, I'm trying to word this the right way, older men, right. It was like, I'm trying to word this the right way, older men, right? It was like, if you think about it, little Kim, okay, her hardcore album where she's literally squatting down, she was 16 or 17 years old. You know, like it was, men weren't held to a different standard that they are today. And they were allowed to marry young. Jerry Lee Lewis married his fucking 13 year old cousin. Not giving this man a pass.

I'm just saying it was a different time. It was it was it was a different time. Definitely. But so when you found out this information, how did this make you feel? Because you've you guys have been together, what, like a year before you found this out? Probably. Yeah. Okay. Around that. Uh, I don't I was so young. Yeah. I don't know exactly how I felt in the moment. I just felt I know how I feel today about how I should feel. So I'm trying to not allow that to

feel. So I'm trying to not allow that to mess up my my my feelings of that when I found out. Um, maybe I probably was shocked. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're lied to. So anybody that's finding out a secret like that is like, holy shit. And we were already going through it. He was already cheating on me. He was already not coming home. he was already not. So I think I was dealing with all of that in the same sense. And that was the time that I found out I had my STD. And that was, that's what initiated his sister telling me like, I don't know what the hell, you know, he's not 20 something years old, he's a 30 year old man and he's married. Where was the wife and all? So she they were separated.

Okay. Rightfully so. Right. So she would drop little Sean off. Well, we'll drop. She would drop his son off. And yeah, she didn't say anything to me. She didn't say anything to me. She didn't say

anything to Crystal. She wouldn't talk to anybody. She would just drop the baby off. And that would be that would be it. So interactions with me. No interactions with Sean. It was just I knew he had a son. Right. But I didn't know that he had other children. Right. Oh, he had other children other than the son? Yeah. Didn't find out that until I was pregnant. OK, so let's rewind real quick.

You said that you found out that you had an STD. How did this come about? OK, so my girlfriend was doing my hair. We were about to go to strip club. That's a different story. Were you dancing at 16? I was. I was dancing as soon as I got to Philly. That is a huge thing. We were, were you dancing at 16? I was, I was, I was dancing.

As soon as that is a huge thing you left out. Yeah, no, I was dancing when I was 16. I was a few months shy at 17. It doesn't matter. I, I, I'm always on this fence. Let's just call it for what it is, baby. Okay. You shouldn't have been there anyways. It's okay. I'm always dancing on this little teeter fence. I'm like have been there anyways. It's okay. Dance on this little teeter fence. I'm like, I have 16. So let's, let's get in. Let's get into the STD first. And then we'll talk about the club. I just keep dropping these. She keeps dropping these bombs on me.

And I'm like, you know what? You're like me when I talk about my trauma or shit I've been through. I'm like, oh yeah. How do you, it's all over the place. It's just like not one. No, I'm writing a book right now. And it is the hardest thing that I've ever. I remember something new every time. I get like a fucking revelation and I'm like,

oh yeah, that happened too. And like, it's so hard to recount your life, but you're doing a great job. It's funny because I, this is how I started my book that I just published. Yeah, and we'll talk about that too. I tried to do my memoir and I, it was impossible. I was like, oh, well this and this and this.

I don't know how to piece stuff together. It's done. Let's do a parental book. Yeah. But you need to tell your story too, because you can also get like a ghostwriter that can help you and that way it'll like reel it in and stuff like that.

It's an interesting fucking story. Yeah, I mean, I'm fucking intrigued. All right, let's get back to the STD. Let's talk about you dirty cunt bitch. No. Yeah, so. No, I want to know about the strip club. Like we have a very similar life story. Yeah. Yeah. It's very crazy to hear.

I left home at four. I don't know if you know, but I left home at 14. Like I was dancing at a very young age. I was hanging out with pimps in fucking strip clubs at 16. So I get it. I get it, baby. I was getting my hair done. And I I was like, oh, my I get it. I get it, baby. I was getting my hair done, and I was like, oh, my God, like, I am literally stringing my hoo-ha

with my tights at this time. And my girl, Ebony, she was like, what the hell is wrong with you? You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Like, I'm really itchy. Like, I'm itchy. And Sean came in up the steps, and she was like, Sean, did you get my girl at SC Day? And I was like, at SC Day? No, which like, no, I just like wearing these tight ass clothes.

She was like, Danielle, I think that you have at SC Day. So Sean was like, oh, your trip and get the fuck out of my house. Like he kicked my girlfriend out and everything. That's how you know he's guilty. I was I should have known. I mean, you're young, baby. You didn't know yet. Gullible.

You know now. I believe him. But something in my soul was like, nah. Listen, you know when your hoo-hah's off. Yeah. Every girl knows. I went to the clinic. It was so ironic.

My sister came up that following, I think it was like two days later. She just was like, I was like, my cooch is burning, blah, blah, blah. And she was like, how about let's just go to the clinic. Went to the clinic, they were like, oh yeah, you got chlamydia. I was, I went crazy.

Mind you, Sean did not come home after he kicked Ebony out the house. Like he didn't come home for a week. So the whole time my sister got there to this point, he was not home. So I went to his sister, the only other person that I really knew in Philadelphia. I feel like your sister is the only one who kept it real with you though, too. Oh, yeah. Okay. Let's let's talk about my big sister. I'm her big sister, but she's she's's let's talk about my big sister. I'm her big sister but she's

she's still always going to be my big sister. She always protects me. She's my right eye. And that's his sister right? My sister. That's your sister. Okay gotcha. Okay he has sisters too. Gotcha okay. Um and they were like oh yeah you got chlamydia so my sister's like this is what you're going to do this is what you're going to say this is what you're gonna say. You don't have to act crazy. Mind you, I'm a psychopath at that age. I am- Yeah, me too.

Crazy. I don't want anybody to think that I was, oh, oh, ah. I was a psychopath. I mean, and rightfully so though, if somebody gives you a STD, that's your fucking health that somebody is fucking with and the betrayal. So when he finally so I went to his sister and I was telling her what happened.

She was just like, Danielle, he's not like how old do you think this man is? I was like. This is 22 years old, 23. And she's like, no, he's 30 years old. His baby mom is his wife. They are not divorced. Da da da. And I was like, oh, shit.

Like, who the fuck is this man? So my sister's there and she's like, you know what? I'm going to stay until you you figure this out, until you feel better. A couple of days later, Sean did come home and he just was like, that's a lie. You probably was sleeping with this maintenance man. I'm like, we don't even have a maintenance man. We don't even have a maintenance man. He was like, you're sleeping with that maintenance man.

I was like, what the hell? No, I never cheated on you. I never cheated on you. They always try to deflect. So it was just chaos. My sister just kept on trying to force me to come back home with her. And I was like, no, I'm going to work it out with him. Him and I try to work it out. And then a month later,

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because we're gonna pick up from there. Take me on this journey of how you started dancing at such a young age. Oh God, okay, so I was working at Burger King. Let's talk about this. Okay, and- That burger was my first job. So you know what is crazy?

I always wanted to be a dancer. It, I did. I watched in a Nicole. I was obsessed with her. I fucking loved her. I met her. You did? Shut up. When we would have family time with, you know, like my mom and because Tuesdays, regardless of how crazy and psychotic my mom was or abusive she was, because of the lack of tools that she had on raising children, we still had Tuesday nights. We'd watch rescue 911, we did family nights,

and we did talk. And they were always like, Danielle, what do you want to do when you get older? I'm like, I want to be an actress or I want to be a stripper. But let's put this in there before like. I get it. Have you heard the intro to my podcast?

I literally say as a child, I just wanted to grow up and be hot. Yeah. Like that's all I wanted to do. I knew I could make money being hot. Somehow we all want to be hot. Yeah. Like we all, we grew up in the generation of playboy and penthouse and you know, hustler for some people.

And it's just like, yeah, for some people, listen, listen, we can't, we can't yuck anybody's yum. But you know, playboy and penthouse, we grew up in an era where like glamour, like guest models, Victoria's secret models were like super models, not fucking influencers and not taking a dig. But I'm just talking like it was a completely different time. Adriana Lima is the Anna Nicole's the fucking, uh, well, who's the girl from Guns N' Roses?

His ex Stephanie Seymour. Like beautiful, right? Like we were surrounded by nothing but fucking hotness. Beautiful, beautiful, sexy, unique looking woman. Everybody looks the same. Like we all look the same. I look the same. I'm like, I'm not gonna look.

I think you're beautiful. I think you're beautiful. Tina has to say those things. Tina, you're just so beautiful. I can't wait till Tina gets up here. She's a star. Yeah, we love Tina. I fucking love her. We love Tina. I mean, and so I'm trying to argue with her and then it's like... So the stripping. Yes. Grew up around beautiful women, watching beautiful women. She's so Bailey, so Bailey.

She's so Gemini. I love it. But luckily, I have I speak fluent Gemini, so I get it. Thank you. So I will reel you back in, baby. Sorry. I need that. I need you to reel me back in because I'm like, ah. I love that. I need people to reel me back in because I'm like, ah! I love it though. So I was working at Burger King when I first got to Philadelphia because Crystal, his sister, was making me work, which obviously you need to work. If you're staying up at my house, you're a little kid.

You need to work. You need some kind of structure. She couldn't put me into school, whatever. And my manager was doing this little ignorant ass thing. He was watching me put onion rings in the onion ring box wrong. And he had everybody in the back of the kitchen looking at me, doing it wrong. And then when he confronted me,

he confronted me in front of everybody. And I was like, no, fuck you. I don't need this bullshit. You should have told me in private. You should have corrected me when you see me do it. And I was like, no, fuck you. I don't need this bullshit. You should have told me in private. You should have corrected me when you see me do it. And I'm crying. And I left and I was like, you know what, Sean? Like, I think I want to dance.

I want to strip. He was like, oh yeah, I can put you onto the rump keg. Like I know a couple of people, my niece. So he put me onto his knees, went into the strip club and that was it. So they hired you at six feet. Did you lie about your age? No, I didn't lie about shit. And they still hired you.

They didn't even ask me my age. Mr. Epps never asked me. And if and I know there's such a different era because there's a lot of people that know about the rum keg in West Philly. And I think we all were at some point in time under the age. Was it totally nude or just topless? It was no it was you didn't take any of your clothes off. Wow.

It was just like five dollar lap dances around the bar. With clothes on? With your little like lingerie. Yeah, yeah. I was infamous for my teddies in sportswear. Hmm. Yeah. Because I know in Vegas we had clubs out there that you could be 18, but it was,

you had to be totally nude, which made no sense. So you could strip if you were 18, but you had to show your butthole, you know? And, but, and then all the 21 and up clubs were topless. So it was so backwards. I know. So, uh, there, it was just, you just wore clothing and just dance. Yeah. It would take me to the first night that you danced. Oh, God. Do you remember it? I do. I don't remember about it.

I had this pink little like. Top one and it had little little rhinestones on and a pink little bottoms. I went to the candy shop in Philly on South Street, which Joe still loves me to this day because I went there until my retiring days. And he's actually the one who helped me pick the name out rookie rookie rookie was my first dance name. I love that. It was rookie. I was a rookie. But not for too long.

And he helped me get a couple outfits. And then I went to- Were you nervous? I was. I was very nervous. Yeah. So I went in, Sean brought me in. I seen Mr. Ups and he was like $15.

The dressing room's upstairs. I got undressed, everybody was like, oh my God, your boobs are so great. Your boobs are so great. This is before I had my implants done. Don't you love strippers? We're always hyping each other up. I don't think people understand the community

and the strip club. I am still very close friends. Just in the adult industry, in the adult industry. Women are so for each other. Yes, they are. And people are like, oh no, you guys have no morals. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, sorry. Facts. They don't give a shit about no man. Your man. Facts. I preach that all the time on this podcast. I always say that some of the most amazing women that I have in my life still to this day are in the sex industry. I'm still very

close with my girls from the strip club days. It's just a little, it's like a sisterhood that's just unspoken. I call it our sorority because I never went to college. It's our sorority and we still bring up conversations and in-depth moments where we're just like, this was a pivotal moment for us. And it's an amazing feeling. I see all my girls and we're doing all great things. Individually. Yeah.

It's like, we're great people. We always have been. I love that. Because. You know, it's like, we're great people. Yeah. We always have been. I love that. Because people in society have always condemned people into sex industry as horrific. Well, it's crazy because the sex industry goes all the way back to Bible times, you know? Cool, let's not talk about that.

It's like sex sells and it's always gonna be here. And it's like, you guys can frown upon it all you want, but the more you do, it just makes people want to be involved in it or know about it. So it's like not saying that it's okay, like the trafficking part and stuff like that, like the women who are consensually doing this for themselves and for their college education or for their families or just because they fucking want to take their power back. Yeah.

Let them fucking live, man. It is a vehicle to your next destination of whomever you decide to be or whatever your desire to be like. All because you use something that was God given to you. Doesn't mean that you don't get to utilize it the way that you want to use it. Yeah, because I'm not using it the way you want me to use my body. And like, man, please. Yeah. I always say you'll, you'll always be. My favorite quote is you'll always be fond of me because I represent to you the

sins you never had the courage to commit. Yeah. Like Oscar wild. It's a great fucking quote. So you're wearing this pink little rhinestone thing. I know how to rule you back in. So we're wearing the pink little rhinestone thing. Yes, okay. Take me onto your first on the floor. You get on the floor. Yes, so on the floor.

I didn't even get on the floor first. Okay. They called me to the stage. Oh no. Immediately, immediately. What? Immediately to the stage. And it's like a kitty litter box.

It was so small and it had those little wires around it it was it was horrible and they were like what song do you want they ask you right then and there they don't it's not like they give you like a set list of all your songs that you prefer yeah like what song do you want and i'm like honey by mariah oh no I was doing her dance in everything. On the stage? Yes, I was doing. And I made bank. Everybody around that bar gave me a $5 dance.

It's because you were green. Men love the green. They love the newbies. I love the newbies. Everybody around that bar gave me a five dollar dance. It's because you are green. Men love the green. They love the newbies. They loved it. Yeah.

I tell my girls that when they first get in the industry, I'm like, you're going to make a ton of money the first six months because you're green. I was like, after that, love it. Because keep it going. Like us as women, we look at sexier women. We're like, oh, I like that. I like that. I want to be that. And we look at sexier women. We're like, oh, I like that. I like that. I want to be that.

And we lose that. The innocence. The innocence. Which is disgusting. Because men are just fucking hounds. I feel awful for you. Men are fucking just hounds and they can smell it. So. What the hell is wrong with them?

Yeah, it's ridiculous. So did you continue to dance all the way up until you were pregnant? I danced all the way up until I was six months pregnant. Really? Were you not showing? I was not showing as much. Um, but I did wear, I was infamous for the little teddies. So the teddies will cover my stomach. And, um, then when it started peeking through, they were like, are you pregnant?

No. No, I've just gained weight. What are you trying to say? I think I was in denial for a very long time about being pregnant. When you found out you were pregnant, how did you feel? So I was in denial for a very long time. Yeah.

This is how I found out I was pregnant. I feel like I take the long way around. You're okay. Thank you family for all these, for being the other Gemini. So I, my sister was still in Philadelphia at this time, or she came back, she came back, she came back because we had her son as well. And I felt different, we were smoking a little weed

and I'm just like, ooh, like it's making me nauseous. And I was like, Jennifer, I had a dream that you were pregnant. And she was like, no, I just got off my period. And I was like, no, bitch, I think you are pregnant. Like your boobs are big, saying everything that's happening to me. And I was like, just go get a pregnancy test. I'll take a pregnancy test for just so if you if you're pregnant again. Not the gaslighting.

So if you're pregnant again. Not the gaslighting. Yeah. So we both take a pregnancy test, and they came back not negative. They both came back negative. And later on that night, we just got a little bit more weed, and I'm trying to smoke, and I'm trying to eat some chicken, and I throw up everywhere.

So my sister goes back in the bathroom. She pulls up the pregnancy test and pulls it up to eat some chicken, and I throw up everywhere. So my sister goes back in the bathroom, she pulls up the pregnancy test and pulls it up to a light. She was like, Danielle, there's two lines. And I was like, no, no, no. She was like, is this mine or yours? And I was like, I don't fucking know. I was like, it's probably yours,

because I had a dream. You're pregnant. She was like, well, you're throwing up everywhere. You're throwing up everywhere. So that next day, she took me to the clinic, the same clinic that I was with Chlamydia. And they told me that I was pregnant. I cried and I cried and I cried. Sean came home and he was like, oh, we're going to take care of it together.

But blah, disappeared. Man disappeared, disappeared. That like five for good. His clothes there, he he went to work, never came home for good. At that time, yes. Wow. Yeah. He would call me and he was supposed to be helping me with rent, even though. I couldn't. So what did you do when you couldn't dance anymore to.

So I decided that I was going to give my daughter up for adoption to this church. And I was like, if I give her up for adoption to the church, I'll be able to still live like sofa to sofa or wherever I need to go. I just don't want to go back home. I could not go back home to my mom. So I just was like, I'll just give her up for adoption. My sister got wind of that I was giving my daughter up for adoption.

And she was like, she came home. She came to Philly because she was living in Maryland. She came to Philly. I was already getting evicted because I couldn't pay my rent. She packed my whole entire fucking apartment. And I'm crying, I'm like, I'm not going. Cussing her out, she grabbed me by my hair. Who put me in her car, her Pontiac Grand Am?

We love sister. Blazing snow everywhere, it was snow. And if you know Kelly Drive in Philly, it is so dangerous. My sister hates to drive. She was driving like, shut up. Shut the fuck up. We finally get to Maryland. She was taking you back to mom's?

No, she took me back home to me. I meant to her. Okay. Which was not a better living situation. Her boyfriend at the time was a heroin addict and my aunt caught wind of that and she was like, hey, how about like you come stay with me? I went to go stay with her. I talked to my other aunt and my uncle and they said that they would take my daughter and I talked to my other aunt and my uncle, and they said that they would take my daughter. And I talked about it with Thierry and Jennifer, my sister. She was like, that's better.

She's in the family. You can be able to see her whenever you want. And that's when that adoption process started. And then when I gave birth to her, I was like, oh no,'m going to keep this little girl. It's my best friend. I seen her little foot and how did you come up with the name? So me and her father came up with the name.

So he reappeared. So this is, this is even before, like, this is when, like, he came and was telling me that he found an, I missed the whole part. So when he first found out I was getting evicted from the apartment, I got in contact with his sister. His sister got in contact with him when he was working at Holy Hands. And he came to the apartment and he was just like,

we can keep her and blah, blah, blah. How about, you know, this name, this name, this name and this name. And we're listening to his favorite band, Groove Theory. And I was like, what about Theory? And that's how we came up with Theory's name. It's a cute name. I was like, a little Theory?

Yeah, yeah, that's good. I love that name. So you saw her little foot, and you're like, I'm not giving this baby up. I was like, nah, you're going to stay with me. And I told my aunt, she stopped talking to me. Oh. Yeah, she didn't talk to me.

Because they don't have kids? No, they have a shit ton of kids. Oh, OK. They have a shit ton of kids. And he, the family, my uncle and my aunt, the ones that were supposed to take theory, my uncle was later arrested for molesting my cousin and my cousin's best friend. Yeah, so he's in jail to this day. I'm so thankful that I didn't go to great for I'm eternally grateful. And something just told me like,

hey, like, yeah, the universe just knew that he was my favorite uncle, like ankle, he was my favorite uncle, how did I miss that? He might have been your favorite uncle, because he was so sweet to you and like made you feel good because that's how men that groom are, you know, but I don't know the situation. I don't know you guys like relationships. Yeah. Well, we I mean, we were we were we were very close. And unfortunately, my sister was one of his victims.

No, damn. So he was just doing this to the whole family. He never did it to you, though. Never. And my other cousins know. He probably could see how strong you were like. Yeah. Since I feel like he knew just because I'm I was always very vocal. Right. Very vocal. And my sister was very quiet, quiet to herself. And so he was a predator. He knew he knew exactly who to pick on.

So take me on this journey. Your new mom, your what? 17, 18? I was 18 when I did. OK, when I had my daughter. You're living with your sister still? Or yes, I was 18 when I did okay when I had my daughter you're living with your sister still or yes I was living with my sister okay and I miss Philadelphia I miss tripping I missed the money I missed everything and I contacted my best friends at the time and I was like hey girl like I gotta get the fuck out of Maryland yeah and she was hey, you can stay with me and my sister and just pay $500 a month.

You're good, you're straight, you got a room. And that's how I got back into Philadelphia. Did you take Thierry with you? I did. And where was baby daddy? Just baby daddy was just in the wind. Just was what? In the wind.

Yeah, just fucking. In the wind. Guys have it so easy. They can just come and go whenever the fuck they want. It's just crazy. He did come to the hospital when she was born. Oh, that's so nice of him. And he did visit Philadelphia for the first two to three months off and on.

He tried to get a job in Maryland as well. I try to always insert positive things that he's done. Yeah. I mean, people change. People change. And maybe you guys are in a better place now that you're older. And you guys have this theory's grown.

And you guys have this relationship now. But you can't erase the past. And I don't. But I'm one of those people that always try to highlight positive things that has happened, and because it's so easy to focus on all the negatives, so I try to focus on some of the positive things that has happened and reoccurred in our lives

to balance out everything else. So you're back in Philly, you're dancing. How long does this last? Like the dancing and did you always only dance or did you take it outside the club? We had some sugar daddies. I even took Tina was so good. I want to hear about this. Look at Tina's blushing. She said, okay. You're done. You're done. Five.

I love that. Okay, so you had sugar daddies. Yeah, so I had sugar daddies. I dated, I've done like, I did more than just dancing. And- I love that you're willing to be open about Oh, no, there's a lot of people try to hide that no apps a fucking really Yeah, and if you're saying that you never did just you're a liar liar

I say how many times do I say that when they're like, well, she only danced and I'm like, she's fucking lying She's a fucking lot. Yeah And I've always been very honest with Tina from the jump. I've been honest with my daughter as she was able to comprehend what I was saying to her. And so the main two people that I needed to be honest with and. Them to accept who I am. Yeah, is there's those other people.

I know that when those are your people, though, that you're my tribe. Yes. And I accept me for who I am. I know my truths. I know. Those are your people, though. That you're my tribe. Yes. And I accept me for who I am. I know my truths. I know my values. I know exactly why I did what I did at the time. And if you don't understand it, good luck and good for you. Yeah, because you've never been in a position because you've never had to. You know, I was raised on survival. You were raised on privilege. Eat a dick.

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years old and I was out late. I was up early trying to get these fashion show calls, acting gigs and out late because I was working. So. The drugs ever come? Yeah, I'm trying to like fix in exactly where the drugs came in at or. That alcohol first, probably like in the club, I think that's when I started. I know exactly the day that I was working at signatures, I had a whole toothache and I was just like, I have a toothache, blah, blah, blah.

And this girl was like, hey, like I have a Vicodin, you could take it. And I just was like, oh, I called it getting percolated. That is the same exact thing that got me hooked on pills because I would never take them. I had my wisdom teeth pulled out. My girl was like, I've got a perc- Tasha was like, I've got a Percocet, do you want it? And I'm like, sure.

So I take it. And I just remember when it hit me in my pool, I was like, this is fucking heaven. This is amazing. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's all it takes is one pill of being able to relax your nervous system

and you're hooked. Yeah. So, so when I first did the, the Vyconen, I didn't do it again for maybe a year or two. And then I met my, my boyfriend and he was like, hey, like you're in a club. Here's some Adderall and some perks. And he was like, why don't you sell them? So I'm selling them in the club. All the girls are making all the fucking money.

They're all happy. Ha ha ha. That's when I was like, maybe I want to take something to see exactly what is going on. Because I in the back of my head, I knew exactly what and how I felt the first time I took it a couple of years ago. And that's when my addiction really took full force. It really did. It just was, I was milk and cereal.

Well, it's like Xanax and syrup. I would take Perks, Perks 10, Perk 30s, break them in half. Then if I didn't have that, I would do Coke. I would do anything to make sure that I was numb enough to get my shit, like make money. Yeah. And, or just feel normal. There was a time in my life where I just felt like

if I wasn't high, I wasn't, you know, fun. I wasn't articulate enough. I wasn't adventure enough. It brought you out of your shell. I was, yeah, and I never needed that because who I am, I'm just out there and I'm gonna burst of bubble. I don't know what made me think that I needed those drugs to.

Be normal. I think it's influence, you know, you see all the girls around you. You guys are making a ton of money. It's almost like a shit ton of money boredom, too. Yeah. The clubs back in the days were completely different than what they are now. I go to a show club today and I'm just like. Yeah. Yeah. That would never pass.

Yeah. I write about it in my book too. Like it was just so much more glamorous. It was. Back then it was so much more taboo. So I feel like people spent more money and it was like more quality. I would sometimes like I would switch it up because I got tired of working all through the night. And I would work at Crazy Horse Two in Vegas

from 1 p.m. to 9 p.m. All the doctors and lawyers would come in because it was right there off the strip. I made fucking like $1,500, $2,000 a day from 1 p.m. to 9 p.m. Make bank. Just bank. Bank and I tried to sell Tina all the time, like when I would take her to club

and she's like, you dance with these? I'm like, no, we would have to weigh in. We would have to weigh in. We would have to get our makeup hair, everything done. We would have headshots. We would do. It was we would have meetings on elegant classes on how to speak to people, how to mimic people's behavior. Sit straight up.

Yes, so whatever's going on today is just a different kind. I know one thing, we would make a lot of money. Danielle, are we going back to dancing? What are we doing? No, I'm like, we're making a lot of money. I mean, just even teaching the girls the game, this, this, uh, generation, cause a lot of girls don't know it, you know, and they don't realize that you there's the less you do, the more money you're going to get paid.

And I know it sounds crazy coming from an ex hooker, but even when I was hooking, I wasn't sleeping with all of these men. Yeah. And yeah, it's just, I'm glad you get it. Cause you were around in the same era. Yeah. So you're on this journey with drugs Yeah

And when does it get to a problem where you're like this is an addiction and I need help Where all my friends were telling me Danielle you you have a fucking problem And what was your cocktail and like what would you just everything so no so my preferred? Would always just be perks. Yeah, I would love my perk tens and a shot of. To kill at the time, I do not touch that stuff. Yeah. But it depends on my mood. Like if I was at home, I would want my Xanax and I would want my syrup

so I can just not all chill. Yeah. But if I was at work, I would want my shot and I would want my percocet. If I was at the rave club, I would want my. Covers. Yeah. Yeah. Like it did depend on the environment that I was in. My go to was always going to be a percocet. That was my that's my boo thing. How many were you taking a day?

Oh, gosh. Ten, ten, fifteen. I never pooped. Oh, girl. Ever. Poo-poo was not a thing. I never pooped. When you're taking low-nerves. I was at the colonic all the time.

Oh, I got a colonic one time, and I was so backed up from all the pills that I was taking that it didn't even work. I couldn't even shit. My girl went and got into colonic, and whole loratabs, the blue ones, were coming through the tube because it didn't even work. I couldn't even shit. My girl went and got into Kalanick and whole Laura tabs, the blue ones were coming through the tube because I didn't digest in her. Like, yeah. And he he there was many times where he was just like, Danielle, you have to chew your food or like how long is it like?

Like could the building up in your your school, he was like, you got a problem. I don't know, I just don't poop. Oh, you poor baby. So did you end up getting help when your friends were like, Danielle, you need help? No, I didn't give a fuck what they had to say. They're all alcoholics, in my opinion.

So I was like, don't tell me what I need when you're in your own jury. Yeah. What helped me, what stopped me was my rock bottom. And my rock bottom was me leaving my kid in the car. That was my rock bottom. And that was the day I did not take a pill ever, ever, ever again. Take me on that day, if we can.

No, no, I can still remember it. I picked my daughter up from my sister's. Which I should not have been driving. And so I just wanted to make sure it was not my daughter. And I was on the phone with my boyfriend at the time that got me into pills. And him and I are arguing, we argued all the time. I don't know exactly what we were arguing about. It probably was about perks, money, me, my timing,

all kinds of things. And I was on the phone with him, arguing with him all the way up into the apartment. And him and I got into a fistfight. I had bruises on me. He had bruises on him. And I just was like, fuck you, and I went into my room. Like, maybe 30, 40 minutes later, my car alarm went off,

and I was like, what the fuck? And I see my daughter getting out the car. Was she in a like car seat? No, she, I mean, she got out, I mean, yeah, she was in her car seat, but she, I mean, it wasn't even a car seat, it was she got out. Yeah, she was in her car seat. But it wasn't even a car seat. It was a booster seat. How old was she?

Eight. Was it hot outside, cold? It was spring. It was around her birthday. It was April 10, April 11, but the last day that I ever touched a burqa set. As my last day. I love that a burqa set. As my, that's the last day. I love that that was your turning point though.

Like your daughter saved you. Yeah, she is. She is my savior. And that's why I owe so much to her. Because even to this day when I talk about my addiction or there's been many a times when I talked about like, you know, if I just just had a perk. Just like, do you really want to talk about it?

Or like you said it like more than like three times this week. Like what what the fuck is up? And I'm like, oh, no, I was just saying it in humor. And he's like, OK, humor or serious. But there has been moments where like I even talked to Tina and I'm like, I just would just prefer to take a percocet so I don't have to fucking deal with what's going on in my life right now. And she was like, do you want to talk about it?

Do you want to call somebody? Do you like go all through the things that she thinks is the best thing, which is great. But I always remember. It's good though that you have a safe space and Tina to be able to be like, hey man, I'm feeling like this. Cause a lot of people don't have that luxury of having a partner who they can go,

like that's how Jay and I are. If either one of us is feeling a certain way, we can go to each other and be real, you know? And that's not easy to do because, you know, especially being a recovering addict you know to be able to go to your partner and just say hey I really want to use right now and her be understanding and loving is awesome. Yeah and well Tina she's not that loving nurturer. Alright when does Tina come into the picture? She comes in like a

year and a half or two years after I stopped dancing. Okay, when did you discover that you were gay? Oh, I always dabbled and dabbled. Okay. Tina's not allowed, she won't allow me to say it on the record because everybody I dabbled and dabbled with was not a relationship.

Tina is my first outward lesbian relationship. Okay, gotcha. Tina got it like that. I I have been with many women before. Tina, Tina, come up here. Come up here. Because Tina's too funny, dude. I know. And I'll keep on talking to her like, hey. Yeah. I love it. Tina, I'm so happy that you on talking to her like hey. Yeah. I love it. Tina, I'm so happy that you could join us on the couch.

You've been over there. Some hilarious commentary. And so, okay, so you guys met. How long have you guys been together? 11 years. Almost 11. Okay. So you did you guys meet after you got sober?

Yes. Okay. So you got sober while you were still working in the club? Yes, I love that. Well, no. Well, yeah, I was fired from the club. Okay, because I got into a lot of fights I was a violent Man of shit Can we talk about that? men Have a tendency to think that because they're in a strip club and you are working there that they you you are owned to them, right?

I never allowed that shit to happen because my Fist would meet your face. Yeah, I finally got um fired for hitting Uh owner's friend So I was like it's time for me to get sober. That's over, start working out. Hey, what?

Hey, what? And that's how, so you guys met at working together. What was your first thoughts of Dani when you saw her? She was hot. I thought she was out of my league for sure. And Tina, so you've always been lesbian or? I came out when I was 15. Okay, awesome.

Well, my sister outed me to my mom, but I came out like by myself at 15. Okay. And then Danny, how did you feel about Tina whenever you saw her? So Tina and I initially met like, But way before that. Way before that, cause she's my sister's best friend.

Oh, okay. We've been working together for a very long time. Okay. And that's how theory knew of her before I knew of her. I feel like we skipped some steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's circle back. So when did you originally first meet Tina?

It was on my birthday. How old? A few years. I was still in my addiction, but my sister took me out to dinner at mid lunch. She was on her lunch break. She was with the Gianna. She came across the street to see my sister and-

Yeah, we went there to have a drink. I didn't know your sister, yeah, she didn't work there. Oh, she didn't work there yet. Okay, I'm lying. Gianna and- We were having a drink on our lunch break. All right, Santa, you tell the story. What was the first time you guys met?

I didn't pay her no mind because I had a crush on somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you know who she was at the time. Okay. And so where did you guys meet? Like how old I was 24 and how old are you?

When she started working there, she was 28. I was five years apart. Depends. No, no. Here we go. But when I say that, she gets offensive. Because I always say it's six years sometimes and then it's five years.

Right now it's six years. She's like, I was 28 and one quarter. All right. You were 29. OK, I was 29. Shit. It was your 29th birthday, I think. Okay, and this was before working at Payway.

So we really don't know. So we, because she was dating somebody, I was dating somebody, and we were being very messy individuals. Whoa, I wasn't being messy. You were a hell. Stop playing. Tina! No, I was not. You were a hell. Tina. No I was not. Yes you were. Tina.

Tina. Stop it. We were broken up when we got together. You guys were not broken up. We went through hell. I was sleeping on my mom's couch. But we went through hell. Did we or did we not?

If we're. Lies. She's Catholic. Are we going through hell with an ex like that if they're not, they're still in the same home. I would say we're on the couch. She's it doesn't matter. She's still treated you as you guys were together. She was stalking.

Were you still hooking up with her? She wasn't hooking up with us, but they were still together. OK, when did you guys decide that you guys were going to hook up? Because you guys had met when you guys were younger, trying to decipher maybe bringing Tina in wasn't a good idea. Okay. So you guys met younger, you weren't interested because you were with somebody else. Danny, you were in your addiction and I was with somebody else. I just said that I was going to marry her. I've always said I was going to marry Tina. I always said I was going to marry Tina. Like from like first, before like, before we communicated. I always said that.

Cause you had seen her before. I already seen her. Okay. What was it about her that made you say that? She's mean. I mean. Tina are you mean? She's mean, yes.

I'm just very blunt and it comes off kind of mean. I love that. She's mean, I love mean. People think I'm mean too, so it comes off kind of mean. I love that. She's mean. I love mean. People think I'm mean too, so don't worry about that. There's something that I respect. I respect honesty. I respect being authentically yourself and Tina is it.

And I don't run across a lot of people, especially in the circles that I was running in. And I admired her and I still admire her to this day of her authenticity, authenticity, authentic behavior. Danny, turn your turn your ringer off for me, baby. Why are you ringing me? Okay, so when did you guys think like, all right, I'm ready to fucking get it on? I didn't think that way. I'm a saint. No, she's not. She took advantage of me. So I believe it.

I believe that I was vulnerable. Oh, Tina was just. Had you just gotten out of a relationship? Were you still in that abusive relationship? She was still in a relationship. Who's the messy one? Anyway, so she would blush whenever I would talk to her.

And I was like, oh, she liked me. Don't be acting like that. So I would send her little notes every single day, like smile, you're beautiful, da da da. And this is why you guys are working at Payway. This is why we're working at Payway. Yeah, I was hoping she was a waitress. I was like a waitress.

And every day I would just make her smile, but she was so mean. She was just like cussing everybody out. She gave you a challenge. Yeah, she did. Not me. She was always... But just in general. She didn't swoon over you.

Yeah, she was like, you know, Fred and Kitty off of The 70's Show? I feel like that's us. Yeah. Typically rude to everybody, but she's always soft and gentle with me. But I don't know what happened. There was one day I asked her to go to the bathroom and then I just was like, ugh.

That's not what happened. I love how they both have different recounts of everything. All right, let's hear your Tina. Let's hear your version. I used to take three buses in an L to work. Oh yeah. So you offered me a ride home one time. I was living in Frankfurt.

I offered her a ride. And she made the first one. No, I didn't. You kissed me on my, this part. You are such a liar. Anyways. Well, either way you were sticking your tongue down her throat in the bathroom. We have a picture.

We have a picture. It's by the bathroom, not in the bathroom. And that's how we got together. And we used to sneak around. We would go on our lunch break. She still lived in the house with an ex. And I still, my ex still lived in house. I was a mom at the time. And I see. And we used to.

We used to who in the car, in the car, in the parking lot. Or how much break? The end. That's kind of hot. It was hot. I mean, that's hot. And I'm like, I'm letting you guys talk because I want to hear more. And then I'm doing with my cousin, so I didn't have to deal with. Yeah, because everybody when we broke up, everybody took her'm doing with my cousin. So I didn't have to do us. Yeah. Cause everybody, when we broke up,

everybody took her side. Like my mom and my sister and stuff. How long were you guys together? Six and a half years. Oh, okay. But she used to cheat on me a lot. So, you know, you don't have to put her business out there. She was just-

It's my business. It happened to me. Okay. You're right. There we go. There was the bluntness. I love that. It happened to me. I get it. And you know, it's, I get it. But it's like's like I was just telling you like what you can't erase the past

I know you can't paint a pretty picture if it wasn't, you know after a while you just thought and it was always with men So after a while you just thought like not having phones anymore and that's what happened So yeah, and it's hurtful because how can you compare with a man, you know, and I never told my I'm very private So I never told my business so when we broke up when I broke up with her It was like a shock to everybody like how can you compare with a man? You know, and I never told my I'm very private, so I never told my business. So when we broke up, when I broke up with her, it was like a shock to everybody. Like, how can you do that to her? Like she did nothing wrong to you. And you looked like the bad person because you were hooking up with Danny and they didn't know about that. Oh, they didn't. OK.

They just I just broke up with her and they thought it was like out of the blue and it was like built up stuff. Yeah. And what about you, Danny? When did you leave and move out of his house? My house? He moved out. He moved out. When did you guys know that it was going to be serious? So me and Brandon did have a conversation. I believe him had a conversation.

I told him that I was him and I just wasn't messing well. We did have a really good relationship when it came to what we want in the end. I think that's, I think that was literally it. But I think he had a lot of traumas. I also had a lot of traumas and we wasn't working together to fix either of them together. And he lacked a lot of emotional depth that I was looking for.

I had that conversation with him. He did not fight me. He did not fight me at all with me moving forward and him moving out. It was, it was... He just knew that it was over. I mean, we both really knew. There was no love lost or anything. I did reach out to him a few years, like, after and I apologize for how it went

down. I did talk to Tina about it before I sent the email like Hey, I do want because I don't want karma to hit me. I get it. I want to reach out to him and I want to apologize to him for, you know, how it went down because his films could have been her. He wouldn't have communicated with that to me because he didn't have that emotional depth to communicate that or convey his emotions to me. So I just wanted to clear that air so we can move forward the way that we needed to.

So did you move in with her after? She moved in immediately. They actually walked past each other. Oh my God. He was moving out and I was at her house. So me and Theory left because we saw them coming. Did Theory always love you? Yeah. Yeah.

He used to call me her best friend. Oh, you guys seem to have a really close friend. She had back then because she just get bullied a lot. Oh Really? She's such a beautiful kid She was the best. Yeah, he is the best. Yeah. Yeah. She is she is a good kid So take it take me on this journey with you guys and theory, you know becoming a same-sex relationship Was it hard? What there was more people accepting? I like it was hard at first because we actually woke up for a second because I don't think five What?

That's just a reason you say for Wow. Thank you five You're allowed to say it. Wait a second, cause I don't think she was ready to like be fully out. Right. Cause it was, it was really new. It was really new to her, even though she dibbled and dabbled.

Right. In women, it wasn't like out. Right. Like that. So for like a couple of weeks, she kind of stayed away. That's basically what happened. Did you struggle with the full time lesbian title? It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't the lesbian title.

It was her. It was her. Oh, I believe, believe, believe, believe. It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't being out in a relationship with her. It wasn't about the lesbian title. I think it was how strong she wanted to be committed so fast after I was already in this relationship with somebody. It scared you. And I explained that to her multiple times.

It takes me a while. she did not process it. So when I still was being a little hoebag while we were talking, she just was like, I can't believe you're doing this. It's me or it's them. And then I was just like, it's them. And then she left. And I was like, damn, I actually like this girl. Like she's a mirror image.

I was like, damn, can you come back? And she was like, no. So I'm sending flowers to the job. I love that Tina knows her worth though. I was very heartbroken. That was the first person I actually loved like that. I was calling her mom. How long were you guys split for?

Not very long. Like a couple of weeks. Not very long. That was a couple of weeks. But she was texting me all the time and I just didn't want no kind of. She ignored me at work. I was heartbroken at the time.

I fell fast. But she threw up boundaries, baby. But she can't blame us. Yes, she did. I didn't know anything about those at that time. I mean, actually, and she also wasn't respecting those boundaries because I put those boundaries in place. Like I was not ready for a relationship.

She contacted the girl that I was messing with. They met up. No, I know it was shitty. You could you could tell your side of the story. You could tell your side of the story. I feel like I'm a therapist right now. It was it was shitty. You could, you could tell your side of the story. You could tell your side of the story. I feel like I'm a therapist right now. It was, it was good. What girl?

I have to pee. You don't have to say your name. My friend. You can go to the bathroom. It's right here. She was my friend. So while, while you're peeing, I'm going to get the rest of the story out of Tina. She was my friend. Tell me the story.

She was my friend and, uh, I go pee Danielle. She was, I and, yes she was. I go T Danielle. Goodbye. She was, I considered her a friend. She considered me a friend. I always looked out for her when she moved to Cali and she used to have like a lot of problems.

So I just always like be there for her. And then I found out that them two, and how I found out was shitty because I was still staying with her. And then one day I was at the house hanging out with theory, because I said, hang out with theory, she didn't have like nobody, whatever. And she was texting me something,

and she was acting really weird. I was like, something's not right. And then she had, she lives in a condo. So like, there was just like all windows. And she said she was like pulling in or whatever. And I looked outside and I seen her and the girl in the car. But when she came up to the apartment, she was by herself.

So the girl had went to like the balcony roof and was like hiding up there, I guess, waiting for me to leave so they can, and that's how I found out. Also went through texting her phone cause I'm like, oh like that. I just knew something was weird. Yeah.

Like I used to date a serial cheater. So like, I know when something's like off. That triggers your trauma. Yeah. So I was like, so it made me more suspicious. And then I found out and then me and the girl got like into it or something, but she wouldn't come. And that's when you guys split for a little bit.

Yeah. And you started- I wasn't to take it back at first. Yeah. But like you said, I know my work is like that shitty. If you didn't. Want to be with me, you could have just said that. Yeah. And her being my friend, like you knew how. And then you're still my friend still like you're still in my face and you're sleeping with. Somebody that I'm involved with behind my back. So it was like really fucking shitty. Yeah, no, and to see it.

And then she got into it. It was not, it was not a good time. Why did they get into it? Because she was like blowing up my phone and like sending me screenshots of messages that her and Danielle were saying to each other. And then I guess they all got wind of it and they were arguing on the phone.

I wasn't there, I was at work at the time. No, wait it and they were arguing on the phone. I wasn't there. I was at work at the time. No way. I'm spilling all the beans. Wait, you're skipping a whole bunch. No, I'm not. You're skipping a whole bunch. I'm not skipping anything.

So you guys decided to get back together after this mess with the friend of each other. The associate. The associate. The associate. So you guys decide to get back together and you were fine with being monogamous and just being in this relationship and being in a full on same sex relationship. When did you guys get married? Two years ago.

Yeah, two years ago, yeah. We eloped, we went to Vegas and got married. Yeah, so when I moved to LA, that's when I was just like, okay, this is my girl. I mean, I already knew that you were my girl. We were together like nine years already when. When you guys got married. Yeah, when she told me, I thought it was a joke.

She's like, do you want to just go to Vegas and get married? And I was like, haha, like we've been together so long. We've been engaged for seven years. I thought she was like lying. And then we really drove to Vegas and got married that same day. What do you think the secret to you guys' marriages? Because I mean, 11 years is nothing to scoff at, especially nowadays.

I think acceptance. I don't know. I know I don't know. I'm not even going to lie. I don't even want to lie. Acceptance, accepting of who she is. I don't even want to lie. It's crazy. Acceptance, accepting of who she is.

For us, I think it's just like, I don't know. I don't know. You guys are like best friends. Sometimes when you know, you know. Sometimes you can't explain it. You just can't explain it. So for me, this is me, I can only speak for myself.

When it comes to Tina, she allows me to be who I want to be. And as I grow, she adapts and she sees who I'm becoming. And she's just like, she accepts that part of me. She doesn't throw my past at me like a lot of people do. She loves me. This is what makes it work for me. She loves me unconditionally. She wants best for me.

And I don't know, she just... What about you, Tiara? Yeah, that's a big part. me. And I don't know, she just what about you? Yeah, that's that's a big part. Yeah, you do love theory. But she she goes on these. These mental trips with me. It doesn't matter how ugly that they get. They don't it doesn't. It don't discourage her right away from wanting to be with me. It doesn't matter how ugly I get. She sees your dark side. Yeah, and I call it my ugly for reasons

that I don't show a lot of people, because I feel like a lot of people won't appreciate how my brain operates. And I don't know, but she does. And so does Therri. And how do you feel, Tina? In therapy helps too. I don't know.

Come on, Tina, that's no. What's the question? That was beautiful what she said about you. What do you think makes you guys work and have been able to last for 11 years? I don't know. A woman of few words. She's like, she does all the fighting. A woman of few words.

She's like, she does all the fighting. She does all the working. No. I don't, I don't really know. I don't know. I can't think of anything like putting me on a spot like that. I didn't even funny did. You're a talker.

I'm not. So you can express your feelings more than I can. It's okay. You're fine. I understand that you're limited to. It's okay. It's okay. You're fine. I understand that you're limited to- She's nervous. I am nervous. So let's get into when you guys got on TikTok.

Like how, when did you guys get on TikTok? 2020? Yeah. Yeah. And take me on that journey. You've always been on social media though. Yeah, she's been on social media since she was a kid. She has like, she had music leave on and all that type of stuff.

Yeah. And then she would never be on it. We would always be sharing videos and laughing with each other. Like, what are you laughing at? We're like, TikTok, it's so funny, you should download it. And she's like, no, I'm not downloading that stupid shit. And then one day she just downloaded it

and she did this video and it went viral and she was hype. And she was like, I like this, I'm gonna do it more. And then that's how she- Yeah, because they were leaving me out, like at dinner, because we were a very traditional kind of like family where we sit at the table. And we have conversations, we talked about our days, we do these things that a lot of people don't assume

that lesbian couples do with their children. And they were leaving me out of the conversation. They were leaving me out in who they were becoming. And I was just like, the fuck are you guys laughing at? It's not funny. Get off your phones. It was very, TikTok used to be very funny. Yeah, well, TikTok used to be a great place.

Yeah, I loved TikTok. I loved it. And now- I still do love TikTok, but I just feel like now everybody just, everybody wants to expose everybody. Nobody wants to tell the whole fucking story for anything. It's too serious. It used to be like funny dancing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Facebook people are ignorant. I'm scared of bro. I almost go to jail every time I'm in the car. I stopped reading Facebook comments. I just I refuse. I love a good argument. Yeah. Every now and then, if I'm feeling froggy, I will go in and choose violence. I'm a great debater. I love to debate with people.

But you say things in a certain way. Yeah. That pissing me off. I just wanna. I'm political. If you can't say that, say why the fuck not? I'm not on social media. I can say what I want.

That's why I love her. I'm just talking about people's mamas and everything. I do. So you got on TikTok what I want. That's why I love her. I'm just talking about people's mamas and everything. Tina. I do. So you got on TikTok. I did. And that's when you guys started going viral and building your brand. Yeah.

Take me on that journey. That was a hard journey. I just felt like there was stories that weren't being told, especially coming from a black woman, a black family, a lesbian family. And I felt like there was a lot of topics that needed to be talked about and brought to light. And that's what we did. And it was real. We recreated so many conversations. There was a lot of times that we are all sitting there and I was like,

remember that time? Da da da. And I was like, remember that time? Da-da-da. And I was like, we should recreate that conversation. Let's try to remember exactly what we said and how I reacted. And that's how Hey Mom started. And it's literally how my child walks into a room. She was like, hey, Mom.

And it just took off. And that's what she wanted to do. It literally took off. And that's what she literally took off. And that's, it started with a lot of controversial conversations. And now I think that we swift it into more educational and more marketable. I love you guys as content. And especially like when you talk about the step-parent

stuff, because that resonates with me also. But I love like the little skits you guys do I think it's necessary. Thank you Sometimes how many people it does actually help no, it's it's comfort. It's comfort I sleep content, you know, and it's like it's feel-good content like it's no drama. It's never anything Controversial it's just really like raw and real Family situations that a lot of families have to deal with and like, you know It's never anything controversial. It's just really like raw and real family situations that a lot of families have to deal with. And like, you know, even when you were being open

about your facelift and about, you know, taking the pills for whenever you were healing from your facelift, like people need to know that that's actually a struggle. Like, it's hard because she was in so much pain and she would not take anything. Yeah. But I think once your determination kicks in, I feel like you're gonna be like, fuck it. Yeah.

Yeah, just fucking tear my fucking ovaries apart. Don't care. Life hurts harder than those pills. Yeah. Anything that came with my drug addiction hurt harder than what relapse would feel like. Like I think about those moments when... Like, when I talk about,

I'd just rather have a fucking perc. It's those hard, bottomless moments that makes me like, nah, fuck that. Like, I can do this face-lip. I can go through a BBL without taking any fucking pills. Just because I know that hurts, that feeling of having a pill in my system. I know that's gonna hurt worse

than what I'm going through physically at that moment. So. You have more to lose now too. So it's like, you gotta think about that. Yeah. I mean, I've always had a lot to lose, but mentally, yeah. Did you guys ever picture you guys would be where you are now?

Me? 11 years ago. Yeah. Danielle's like, I manifested this shit. I want to be further where I want to be great. I want to be places where I know I deserve to be. And I have a vision for my family and empire. And I expect them to want to the same things as me. But everybody's timeline looks different.

And I'm here waiting for everybody. Let's talk about hard. Go ahead. I make it hard. Yeah, I know. I'm very stubborn. And she's like, you don't need to work. I work two jobs. I'm like always working. She's like, you don't need to work. I work two jobs. I'm like always working. She's like, you don't need to do that. You don't have to work two jobs.

I want her to be my manager. I want, like, I don't want her to be my manager, but I want her to do something that I know she's passionate about. And I know she's passionate about- On her own schedule. On her own schedule. So I hate, I loathe that she works two jobs

and she refuses to break that generational cycle. But that's probably one of her traumas. Like, did you come from a family that argued over money or? No, but my mom was work all the time and my dad wasn't around. So I didn't, we were home a lot by ourselves. Yeah. And my mom worked two jobs. Till this day.

Oh, till this day she works a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And plus I feel like I don't want my financial burdens to be on her if I was to quit. Cause like they're my, like my car, my car, like all that. I felt like she would have to, that's a lot for one person. But do I ever complain though?

No, but that's not the point. I would never complain. For myself. So I would prefer, I would, and I tell you this all the time, I prefer me having to deal with every financial situation than you having to go into that place and be so miserable because I'm getting half of what you are capable of doing because you're so bright. You're so intellectual. You're so smart. You're so smart. You retain.

And I tell you guys, do you guys want to make out right now? No, she like she's Tina is probably the smartest person. She's so smart. She's so smart. She does not need to be working too jobs. And I love, I can see both sides of the coin because I'm a sugar mama like you.

Like I, when I first got with J I was like, let me take care of you. You know, like, let me do this. But when he when the roles reversed and he started making a lot more money than me, he's like, don't work. I'm like, fuck you. I'm like, I'm going to work because I I'm never going to put my financial burden on him. I want to always. So I get it. I see both sides of the coin.

And I don't want her to put her financial. It's not even a burden, but her finances on to me because I know she's an independent individual. I know where she comes from. I know what she's capable of doing. So I just want her to focus on something more beneficial to her where she has a lot more time to do something that she wants.

And sort of compromise, maybe work one job and then try to help Danielle with what it is that she wants you to help with, do a trial run. And then if it doesn't work out, you can always go back to having that second job. I guess. You never know, you might fucking thrive and make double the money that you're making up both jobs.

We'll thrive. See, I love that. I love it, we have a game plan for 2025. She's incredible. Well, I did put on my vision it. We have a game plan for 2025. She's incredible. You're- Well, I did put on my vision board that I want to quit the second job. There you go.

And we just came up with a game plan. I am you guys' therapist now, all right? I mean, unless you want me to go back and have a sugar daddies, and you could be sitting at the dinner table across the hall. I don't like that idea. That was not a good fun time.

That was great. Oh, you used to go on dates with her while she had sugar daddies? Yeah. I love that. I didn't leave my sugar daddies, back to the sugar daddies. I didn't leave my sugar daddies until like maybe two to three years after we were dating.

Yeah. I get it. I didn't stop. I didn't get out of the sex industry until 2020. Yeah, okay. We went back to Dancing Flood a out of the sex industry until 2020. Yeah, okay. We went back to dancing for like a little bit when we first got together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean.

I mean, shit. I didn't care. I think we're natural born survivors and we're always going to do what we have to do. Hustlers. Yeah. We're hustlers. We're gonna hustle, baby. I like to make money. I will hustle. Let's talk about this book that you wrote. Yeah. Yeah.

Working with, what's the name of it? What's it about? And where can people find it? Okay, Not a Doctor, Just a Mom is on Amazon. It was written by me. It's about, I want to say gentle parenting, but it's not about gentle parenting. It's just about parenting with empathy, respect, and boundaries. I feel like a lot of people look at gentle parenting

as if it's you're a doormat, and it's not that. You have to understand that your child is not a reflection of you, it's a reflection of who they're supposed to be. You're just there to guide them and love them and nourish them into the individual that they're supposed to be and not the person that you want them to be.

So it just deals with a lot of conflict issues and how you can resolve them without forcing your opinions. You can, there's a lot of insight on loving and adapting to your child's uniqueness without forcing your opinions and all that, that kind of thing is on them. I think it's a very important and informative book on just parenting in general.

I was told many a times by many managers that this book was not. It couldn't come to life and it did. I was I love when people tell me I can't do something. Yeah, I love it. Tell me I can't do it. Okay. Yeah. But watch me. I've been told I was not marketable over and over and over. I've been told over and over. I'm not marketable.

Your guys entire brand is marketable. That's what I was telling them. A biracial lesbian couple raising, you know, with a baby, not a baby, but a child is, and she's not a child, but you know what I'm saying? Like the whole family dynamic. A little human. Yeah, you know, like you guys are super marketable.

Yeah, so I was told I wasn't able to do it. And so I did it. I love it. I'm proud of you. And I love it. And it's number one. On Amazon. Number one, new release.

Number one on child discipline. Number one on teens discipline. I need that. I'm going to buy your fucking book. I'm going through it with a 16 year old right now. It doesn't have to necessarily be about even with children. It could be with any kind of relationship. Like this is just basic knowledge

when it comes to relationships and accepting people for whom they are and your position in their life. Your position in people's lives is a privilege, not, you're not obligated to their life existence. And we have, as a parent, we have 18 years, 18 years to make a great impression on them to want you to be in their lives.

Like me, my mom, she blew that one. I mean, love you, today. I'm glad that you and your mom have a good relationship now though. We're getting there, small dosages, small increments. I still put up a lot of boundaries with my mom. Same before my mom passed away and their forgiveness is for you not them. Yeah. So it's that's just all you have to always keep telling yourself. Yeah. It was a

journey. It is still a journey but I'm happy where I am with her. Like he lives far. Yeah. I feel like that's why she's not so like close. So it's like easier to not be under each other. Oh yeah. That's why my brother moved here. So 2025, what is this year going to bring for you guys as a brand, as a couple, as parents?

As a brand, as a brand. As a brand together? You're gonna look at me. Mm-hmm. Cause you're her person. She's a creative one though. She's got a lot of ideas up there. Yeah, but you make it her feel safe enough to do it.

Thank you. Okay, honey, whose side are you on? Both, both of you guys' sides. I'm on both of you guys' sides. Yeah, but you make it her feel safe enough to do it. Thank you Both you guys decide I'm on both your eyes I you need to realize how You know your important your role is in this relationship Too she can't even make a frickin sentence without staring you in your eyeballs Okay, she is my my person. I yeah Tina, yeah, you know, and she knows over there. What are you pointing at me for? I know Tina is literally my

my rhythm to my heart. She really makes things work for me. She gives me that space to be creative. She's given me the courage to actually get up every day, even when I'm like, I'm not in this. And she's like, bitch, who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Yeah, I don't say bitch, by the way. But she does. She gets she she is.

She's she's literally the person that I turn to and want to turn to when I am in hardship and I need that motivation. And I want her to understand her importance in that role. So 2025 looks... Like getting Tina to manage you. Yeah, I want her to understand how important she is because I don't think that she listens to me. And sometimes I feel like I'm fighting the fight by myself

because she does not take my words and my actions seriously because she has a lot of work to do. And that's, and that's, and I'm, I said, I'm going to work on it. Yeah. And I believe you. I believe you. What do you want for 2025 Tina, what's a goal that you have for you guys? Do not say, I don't know. You're not allowed to say, I don't know. I wanna buy a house and I wanna quit one job, at least. There you go. That's good.

That's a step. That's really good. That's two. She shot a lot of two goals. One job for everyone. There you go. That's good. That's a step. That's really good. That's two. She shot about two goals. Two goals. Two goals. I love that. Yay.

And I love that. Thank you. I'm gonna pay off my car. I do love that. And I do believe that. That's three. All three of them are realistic. Induable.

Induable. Every single one of them. And I love that. Thank you for. I'm happy you guys came on the podcast today. And I'm so happy we got to finally do this and sit together. And I'm so sorry that I'm all, I am such a.

No, you're fine. You're totally fine. Trust me at all. It seems like it doesn't come together, but when you listen back, you're like, oh, I was a lot more on track than I thought I was. Okay. Why don't you shout out where people can find you guys? Shout out your socials, shout out

website, shout out your book, whatever you want to do right now so that people know where to find you. And I love your hand movement. Where can we find that? So you can find me on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, YouTube, Facebook and Facebook.

Well, they all have different ones. So you can find me on Instagram tick-tock YouTube Snapchat all of the socials socials at Sylvester underscore Danielle underscore and you can find my book not a doctor just a mom on Amazon Not the eye contact with the camera I have to see sir. I was wondering if you were like, you look at the camera the whole time.

I have to tease her, I have to tease her about that. She wants them to know. What about you, Tina? You want a shout out yours? Are you gonna say, I don't know? I do know. Okay. But it's long, because I have a lot of hands in mine. Tina.

Just tell them the most important ones. T-I-N-N-N-N-N. It's like a long thing. Well, if you go to Danielle's page, you'll be able to know that you'll find the right one. Yeah, there we go. I'll be tagged in there somewhere. Yeah.

Also, I'm writing another book. Oh, she is writing another book. It's a fictional book, though. I love that. It's good. I've read some of it. I think I want to do fictional, too. I love writing, so I want to try it, too. She's so good at it. Yeah. I read some of it. I think I want to do fictional too. I love writing, so I want to try it.

She's so good at it. Yeah, I love writing. I never thought that writing could actually be a thing of mine. And then it's therapeutic. It's cathartic as fuck. But I get in a zone, I'm like, no, I like the house is on fire. I'm like, what? I feel like leave me alone.

But it is great. But no, I appreciate you guys having us. This has been one of my, it's on my, what is it called? My vision board. Yeah, well I told you we were gonna do this whenever. I know, I know, but it's something that I really wanted to happen.

And I am very appreciative that you had us on your show because you are a fuck amazing. And when I say I'm a big fan of yours, I am a appreciative that you had us on your show because you are a fucking amazing... And when I say I'm a big fan of yours, I am a huge fan of yours. Well, we're a fan of each other, so... You're just amazing. I love that you own exactly who you are. You never hide from any of the bullshit that comes with social media because social media comes with a lot of fucking shit.

It's crazy. I cuss a lot. It's all right. So do I. with a lot of fucking shit. It's crazy. I cuss a lot. It's all right, so do I. Um, you are an image and I appreciate it. Thank you.

I love you so much. Thank you for your- Somebody with a similar background. I'm just like, you rock. Yeah, so do you and so do you, Tina. We do shit. Yeah. Well, I can't wait to see you guys at another show too.

So you guys are gonna have to come whenever we're, wherever you guys are. You have to come whenever we're wherever you guys are. You guys are always welcome. Jay loves you guys too. He loves Tina. He's obsessed with Tina. Yeah. Literally, Tina is such a stinker.

All right. Thank you guys for being here. Thank you guys for tuning in. I will see you guys next week. Bye.