Dumb Blonde - Jason Alexander: Britney and His New Bride

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

This week, Jason Alexander talks about it all. From meeting and marrying Britney to conspiracies around the conservatorship, that infamous wedding crashing, what he really thinks about Britney's family, and how he's now free from addiction. He opens up about the last time he and Britney talked, and then his beautiful wife Rebecca joins the show for her thoughts on everything, plus a round of Bunnie's Newlywed game. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, we have a man on a mission. Jason Alexander. What's up, baby? How are you? Thank you for having me dude thanks for coming I'm like so excited to have you here I know we've been trying for like a year a

little bit yeah it just didn't work out but God's timing's always better you know and we think we could uh we got it all figured out and we find out we don't one day oh dude that's the fucking truth I used to think I had it so figured out when I was younger and then I out we don't one day. Oh, dude, that's the fucking truth. I used to think I had it so figured out when I was younger. And then I realized I don't know shit. The older I get. That's wisdom though, you know, that's what I mean, getting older is a good thing about it. When you live long enough, I guess you don't go too far down the rabbit hole. Yeah, man, fucking speaking of rabbit holes, I feel like we have a lot to talk about and a lot to cover. But like I told you before we started recording, I feel like any interview that I've listened to you be on, like it's just mainly focused on Britney, which of course, ladies and gentlemen, we are going to focus, we're going to

talk about Britney, but I kind of want to like, I want people to get to know you, you know, like I want people to know like who you are, where your mind frame is at, you know, like just everything, because I feel like nobody ever asks you how you're doing thank you I appreciate that um you know I mean I guess the only reason for me to ever be in the public eye was because of Brittany um growing up I was in the sport so I got really good at football and I got a college scholarship so I started getting like a little attention in the media before me and Brittany were married in Vegas just through that. But I always had dreams of being NFL.

So I was always thinking that, you know, I would be in the public eye. I just never thought it would be through Mary and Brittany Spears, you know. Right. But yeah, it's. So did you guys grow up together? Like where did, are you from Louisiana also? Yeah, we're both from Kentwood, so it's a very small town. Back then there was like 2,000 people.

It's maybe more like six now. But her whole family still lives there, you know, her mom, her dad. What about your family, though? My dad is still in Kentwood where I grew up. My mom lives probably an hour from there. It's towards Baton Rouge. It's the capital of Louisiana, so it's a little small town. Are you still close with them?

You know, it's close. That's a good question. He's like, I wasn't expecting that one. No, I was, but, you know, I love my family. So we just, it was like my family was, they divorced when I was young. So it was, I went through a lot of trauma as a kid just going through that because. How old were you? I was 12 and my sister was like 10, I believe.

So I had to choose who I wanted to live with. And obviously I stayed with my dad because that's where, you know, I grew up. And my mom moved and she didn't stay. So that and my dad, I guess, was a really outgoing person. And so I had a lot of freedom, you know, and was able to kind of. And I guess also growing up in that time and it was like pre-social media and stuff so kids were still riding bikes and are you an 80s baby i'm an 81 yes i'm 80 yeah okay yeah so we're straight like kids exactly yeah so we understand like the time before the internet

like wave but uh it was a great time it was really cool you know growing up it was um and but there was always really blurry boundaries between the adults and the kids. Like, the parties were always, like, in front of us. So I started drinking very young and kind of thinking that's the, like, I thought that was cool. Like, I want to be like all these adults and drink and act stupid. Uh, you know, so, um, I missed out on like a real, um, family setting where, you know, um, you know, I kind of envy people that have that, but at the same time it did form me into who I am. So I appreciate that. But did you start drinking at a young age? I did. I started, I mean, we started playing around with drinking beer, like 12 or 13, you know, because my close friends,

playing around with drinking beer like 12 or 13 you know because my close friends uh were my dad's friends their kids were friends with me we're all kind of close growing Kentwood small so it's like everywhere you went you were friends that's how I know Brittany is just like you know all the parents and then plus her mom had the preschool in Kentwood where we all started going to school so it was like like that's where we all nested and started forming our relationships. But being from in that single parent life, you know, with my dad, I kind of just, there wasn't a lot of restrictions, you know. And it kind of gave me a bad rap a little bit in like junior high

and high school with my other friends. It's kind of a lot of judgment from the parents because they always felt like I was a problem child and I was like always in my in my head going if you only knew your kid you know right right like if your kid just hasn't gotten caught like dang Jason you actually got morals but um well you grew up in like the bible bible belt so judgment just runs rampant yeah and you um, I did have an encounter with the Holy spirit at 12. I got saved on like a church. Uh, I did like this, a mission thing with the church and, you know, and, and it was kind of religious fear based, you know, that made me get

saved, but I'm glad because that carried on. And later on in high school, I had another experience because after starting drinking so young, I got involved in, I was like a weekend warrior. So like I was really good at football and obviously handsome, you know, so I had like. You are a good looking dude. I was actually very surprised when you walked in. I feel like the media doesn't portray you as handsome as you are. Yeah, they do. That's their job.

His new wife is sitting here, by the way. So don't, you guys don't think I'm like hitting on him or anything. I brought my wife. They'd be like, I know bunny is right no um yeah that's an amazing story too but yeah we're gonna get into that um you know and then i guess uh where i was going with that is that uh i didn't really get into smoking weed but like we started messing with shrooms and psychedelics and stuff really young. I guess because where I'm at in Louisiana, it's where the 10 interstate runs into interstate 55,

and it's kind of like a cross-section of the country. We got a lot of drugs, like the party drugs. Ecstasy back then, the tabs, they used to call them the double stacks or whatever. I remember you know those are extinct now back when drugs were fun yeah they were like it was just intense and clean it's like yeah exactly yeah just a whole nother era and um so I started messing around with that and uh I had kind of a religious experience like I met Jesus one night in this trip uh that I took a bunch of ecstasy just came just came on so hard, and it was like an outer body experience.

And so anyways, it scared me really bad, but I was in the shower like a few days later, and it was like something came over me. It was just like an overwhelming, like, you got to go get baptized. You got to get saved. You got to, you know, it was just like something that came over me. And so I was like happy that I had you gotta um you know it was just like something that came over me and so I was like happy that I had that experience you know just because it kind of brought me back into

uh check and I what where I was kind of heading in a direction where it's probably divine intervention exactly and so and you know I mean it didn't stop my drug use obviously right but it did it did check me and I put a lot of energy into football and I started focusing on on that I ended up getting a scholarship so I stayed on a pretty good path for you know many years but I always would party on the weekends right I feel like that's par for the course for football players like that's how you guys are like you guys are good on great on the field and then when you're off the field, it's womanizing. Yeah, exactly.

That's just our, you know, MO growing up. And then from the South, it was like, everyone was doing it. Like everybody. Right. Like there was a few, you know, groups that, you know, were more just like the church goers and like really square, I guess if you want to say that. Right.

I say square all the time. But I, uh, I, even though I had those religious experience, I was like, I never let the fear stop me from enjoying my life because I was like, God, if you're real, I was this, I want to do this. This feels good. I'm just having fun with these people and all this. So I kinda, I kinda didn't allow it even though the fear was always there. Like you're going to hell, you know? And just like no you're not I'm gonna have a God's bigger but that's kind of traumatizing as a kid growing up in the bible belt and I grew up with religious trauma I grew up southern Pentecostal yeah so oh my god you're even worse yeah I had a babysitter

you know she was Pentecostal and um they don't have they didn't TV uh they had radios and you know they didn't cut their hair and I always thought the TV thing was a little weird I wasn't allowed to listen to secular music I couldn't watch certain things like it was crazy you know I respect that more now though in my with oh excuse me in my wisdom because uh it is a portal like the television is the brainwashing thing. It's just like, you know, and you know, and once we talk about it, but getting married to Brittany,

I think the biggest thing for me was, was it opened my eyes to a lot of the world and things that I didn't really pay attention to before that. Absolutely. Yeah. So, uh, so,

cause we don't have a TV in our house now, but it's just like, we don't, we choose not to watch TV. Yeah. No, I it's, things have changed, you know, since we were kids back in our house now, but it's just like, we don't, we choose not to watch TV. Yeah. No, I, it's, things have changed, you know, since we were kids back in our day, you know, like, it's like, it's just so different now. Everything is so, um, just there's underlying messages and

everything that we watch. Propaganda, just like the show, uh, Idol right now on HBO, that's kind of like Britney supposedly connected to through whatever contracts but uh and then they're the Euphoria show yeah Euphoria gives me anxiety and I love that show I watched that show and I'm like like I see the brainwashing in it you know and then when you really do your research you learn how the CIA and how they're the money's invested in Hollywood for like you know all these different ideas to be pushed on the public. So I'm just very conscious about that now. And I wasn't before because mainly because being thrown in the media and then seeing the lies and being like, that's not the truth. You

know, it never made sense to me. And then to interject, so you sitting here, you seem like such a normal human being in the media you see like i was almost kind of nervous to do the interview because i was like i don't know what his mental headspace is gonna be yeah like is he on drugs or is he schizophrenic not that there's anything wrong that's that's what the me that's what i'm talking about it's these little snippets that they put out and then someone that doesn't know you at all, that's all they got to go off of. And that's, that's brainwashing.

Right. Really? That's MKO programming, you know, programming. And when you think about it, it's like television programming. I mean,

they're telling you what it is right there. Um, but no, you seem like just a normal, normal, you know, I've always been just normal. Are you still,

are you still using drugs? I am not using drugs okay let's just clarify because that was the number one question people wanted me to ask you okay well no I'm not using drugs anymore thank you lord I'm free from addiction oh good you know I was heading down a bit a bad path I've always kind of I have shoulder surgery and football all the way up until I was 24 and I was, really one of those hard-hitting guys. And so I took pain pills, you know, for the pain. And so I kind of got into that.

And then when Fentanyl came around, someone was like, dude, I was buying some pain pills one time, and they were like, it's going to be, like, $300 for 20 or something. I was like, God, this is ridiculous, you know. And they were like, dude, but I can get you some Fentanyl. You can party all weekend on that. I was like, because I always snorted god this is ridiculous you know and they're like dude but i can get you the vent off or you can party all weekend on that i was like because i always snorted my pain pills you know right and uh so i was like all right i'll try and when i did i was like how long ago was this that started like covid probably a little after covid this is very recent um before that i never did anything that hardcore, you know.

Right. It was just the time period where COVID came. I had got laid off from my job. I was going through a separation with my ex. And I was kicked out of the house and kind of in a hotel room and trying to back and forth to the house, trying to figure out what I'm going to do, you know, figure it out. Yeah. And it was just numbing the pain for me it helped me get through the time and it just i just didn't realize how bad off i got you know about a year of using it every day almost and because of my work i had the

unemployment and all the big checks coming in with the covid and i didn't have to work and it was like they were giving you like i don't know they were paying like four times the unemployment, you know, I was getting like 900 a week or something crazy to sit at home and do nothing. So idle hands are of the devil. Yeah, exactly. So, but, um, you know, Brittany reached out and like, um, that actually kind of gave me hope a little bit, you know, because of the relationship I was coming out of to get clean. And then I just told God, you know, I was like, look, God, like I don't I have a son and I don't I want to be a good father. And it wasn't easy. It took a process. But through a lot of deliverance and healing and praying and surrounding myself with better people, better habits, you know,

because I already kind of knew the formula for just a healthy lifestyle. Yeah. And it's really just all about staying strict on that discipline on your routine. Willpower, yeah. Yeah, and that really, the difference thing I think that changed, though, is by giving it to God and, like, because I didn't do rehab or any of that kind of stuff. I just never really believed in it. Wow, that's amazing that you were able to get off fentanyl and not because I didn't do rehab or any of that kind of stuff I just never really believed in it Well, that's amazing that you were able to get off fentanyl and not even have to go to rehab

It was a short well, you know, it was a little process, you know, cuz I used kratom It's like a so much like I know it is like it helped a lot And then then you know, I still like I still use that here and there but But, and you know, I smoke, I smoke marijuana. Yeah. I'm a huge advocate for marijuana. So when did you get sober, fully off of fentanyl, just so everybody knows? It's been, it's been a year and a half. Good.

Good. I'm proud of you. I don't know, I don't have to write the date down. Yeah. I was thinking about it today. I'm like, it's well over a year, probably a year and a half going on too. So, and that was probably when i got the dui if anyone googles that that's what you know my dui was from it was like knotted out at the steering

wheel basically you know luckily i wasn't driving you know because i felt really um bad about the situation because i'm like man i could i don't even remember yeah could have killed somebody drunk you know so it was like god works in that you know in different ways and so and um it gave me a compassion for people that are using that you know because i never used the needle i just i was snorting and doping like yeah i was scared of the needles you know but i'll be i'll tell you a story uh That's how I found out about Jelly Roll was because I had my Pandora rolling and I was spending a lot of time in my truck and driving to Antioch from Franklin. And anyways, I had my Pandora playing. Maybe I was listening to Ryan Upchurch or somebody, but how the algorithm will just play different artists.

And so Jelly Roll started becoming one of my favorite people to listen to because he raps about a lot of that. And I'm sure he has experience with friends and people that's been through similar situations. And then I think you had adam cohan on the show before adam calhoun oh yes calhoun yeah like he's really i like we love adam adam's our baby we love adam and so he was another guy i was like oh wow he's a guy i like i just i felt it you know and so it got it was like now when i listen to some of those songs it kind of takes me back and i don't really

like to do it right but the new stuff you know yeah it's cool and that's how i found like jelly road i love that you found him in one of your dark times my baby's like a little i always say he's a an angel on earth like literally yeah he's such a good soul i watched his documentary on uh hulu or whatever the special he did and like i heard i've seen the people coming up to him and just like how his music changed their life i'm like i'm sure for him that's that means a lot because you know i see he loves it and he's really passionate about it and i mean his music really does talk to you you know it's like and the fact that he went in the country and how the country music community really uh embraced him yeah no it's been wild for us yeah oh god i can only imagine

yeah so i literally text winona judd and that's not like not me name dropping like that's me can't believe that i'm at that point in our life like to be friends with winona judd like that's just crazy to me they've been the sweetest humans ever country music has well i think jelly rose is probably a huge fan of garth brooks right he's what a huge fan of oh yeah yeah absolutely a friend of ours we got married on her property in uh goodlettsville and her property is right next to garth brooks property like her grandfather yeah owned it so like growing up she still deals with garth you know about the property line and different things.

But I thought that was funny. We got married on her property. Yeah, I love that. So let's take it back to high school. When did you and Brittany like hang out during all this? Or like were you guys close as kids? We did. We did hang out.

We hung out a lot. You know, it was always periodic because we went to um after like um we left her mom's kindergarten we we went to two different elementary schools and then she went to a different high school as me but we played their football team so right you know that was kind of always fun when we'd play against park lane because I was like, I'm going to show off in front of, you know, all these little prep girls tonight. Right. And her brother, Brian,

was a good football player in high school and he was a little older than me and I kind of always looked up to him a little bit. Right. When we were younger. Right.

But, Not now. Not now. No, I actually think he's, I actually think he's, I don't have bad words for anybody. But, you know, I think I think Brian, I think our whole family could can be more supportive. And, you know, I just don't agree with like the way they go about the control and they've all benefited their life.

And, you know, so I just feel like there's.'s yeah we'll get into that because definitely want to talk about that um but growing up so you guys you know cross paths whenever you would play her high school and stuff like that you know um she she and she dated other guys and we weren't we never really dated when we were younger we would hang out because my because her cousin and like good friends a couple of her good friends that came to Vegas with us, and they were in her wedding with K-Fed, were in my class. So even though she didn't, Brittany didn't go to school with me, her friends and family did. So that kept us kind of, like, weekends hanging out and always kind of, you know, bumping into each other.

But, you know, it wasn't it wasn't it been as much as you would have thought right because I I had you know a whole life going on back then and yeah I had a pretty serious girlfriend I started dating in ninth grade until my senior year and that's who I was dating before we I went to Vegas which we just broke up like a couple months before that before I went to Vegas, which we just broke up like a couple months before that, before I went off to college to play football. So, you know, but I will say when she started getting really famous, like around 16, with Hit Me Baby One More Time, you know, like there was always like, it was kind of funny for us

because she was like a virgin, right? Right. In the media. You know, that was kind of the first time I she was like a virgin, right? Right. In the media. That was kind of the first time I ever saw the media lie about it. But it was just like, we kind of laughed because we all knew that wasn't true. It was just interesting looking back. How they paint the picture of people. And how that's still accurate to the day, to this moment right now.

What they say is going on and what's actually going on. And how people really believe the narratives that they paint and that's all the you know that's all by design I feel you know it's to just keep people in the confusion and like but I uh there's a lot of things I don't understand yeah because uh there's so many lies that, you know. Yeah, absolutely. You know. So how did you end up marrying Brittany? That was interesting also. Because this all sounds pretty fucking interesting. You know, it was random because I obviously was in college at the time playing football. We were out for the Christmas holidays, you know, and I just randomly went to the gas station to get like, you know, some beer or something to go out that night. And I had no clue I was going to bump into her at the gas station.

But I just randomly bumped into her and her brother at the gas station. And funny enough. In Kentwood? In Kentwood. Okay. Because she was home for the Christmas holidays. She used to come home for the holidays a lot. And Kentwood's really was home for the Christmas holidays. She used to come home for the holidays a lot. And Kent was really small, you know, so it was just kind of random,

but we would always end up somehow bumping into each other. Right. And so, yeah, she bought her mom a brand-new Mercedes, and it was Christmas Eve, actually. And she was driving it to kind of keep it away from the house, and her brother was a little older than me, and my dad always hung out with the younger crew. Right.

And my neighbor was around Brian's age, and it was like this whole little party group of guys in Kentwood, and Brian was actually going to my house to see my dad for whatever reason, and Brittany was riding with him. I was like, wow, I just left the house, but I'll back you know I was going to go out and do this or that and so that's where we kind of started hanging out and there's a picture online where I'm in my living room I'm all messed up and like doing like this or whatever and that was in my living room back then that night where we went back to the house and was hanging out we just by it was a margarita

we just bought at the gas station, and that's kind of where we hung out for the next week before New Year's came along. She invited me. She was like, so, look, I've got to do this Christmas thing, and then I would like you to come to Vegas for New Year's. I was like, hell yeah. So I didn't think she was going to call me. She left and went on this Christmas trip with her family,

and then sure enough, she called me like, what did she got? She said, I'm going to be coming back tomorrow. And, you know, if you want to go still, you know, be here at this time. I was like, all right. So boom, I'm on a private jet on my way. And that was back then before her family was really controlling. She had pretty much, she could invite who she wanted around her. It was normal.

It was how it should actually be you know how was her father when she was younger he was an alcoholic but uh was he a functioning alcohol you know he worked and paid the bills uh you know he owned a gym and uh he was always really into fitness and stuff. Well, either though, he was an alcoholic. Right. I guess when he was younger and he had a gym or whatever. And he was always kind of like that mean guy, though. Yeah, just a grumpy old man.

Yeah, just a grumpy old man. And Miss Lynn was always a sweetheart to me. She just loved me to death back in those days, it seemed like but uh i don't know what changed right i guess i married her daughter and you know in vegas and she didn't agree with it but uh but yeah you know and but i never really crossed i didn't really have a lot of experience with her dad you know just just because it's so small you hear the gossip she had some some uncles you know like uh jamie's brother's named wild willie you know and he still like works for her dad and um i think one of the uncles is gone now but they were always known for like living under the river bridge you know and being like the hippies

and tree houses you know like literally and it wasn't a big deal then it was just like oh there's austin and them and you know jumping off the bridge swimming and just like living on there yeah that's hilarious so take me on this journey of you guys getting married you meet up with her you where'd you meet up with her at so she had two friends uh courtney bravham and another friend jansen fitzgerald um they were going also on the trip. So Courtney's mom drove us to the airport in New Orleans. Kent was like an hour drive. So I just met them.

We drove to New Orleans for the private airstrip, and we met her there. And her mom got off, and we said hi to her, and her cousin Lorraine got off, and we said hi to her, and it was just like a quick exchange, and then we were back in the air and uh it was me her brother she had this big bodyguard uh I don't remember his name back it was uh either way like her him and so me and him kind of just sat in the back and hung out while the girls kind of did their thing on the trip right four hour flight and I'm just

drinking those little like shots of like I don't know how people drink in the air dude I would be lit I was I was like well that was funny because her brother was with me and um the funny thing is is like I just recently saw the CNN thing that they put out with K-Fed and her brother and everyone was talking about Britney being on meth. I don't know if you saw that story, but anyway, you know, I was like thinking to myself, I was like, I think everyone, Kevin, Brian, Kay, all these people, they need to take a drug test. We need to see what these guys drug screen looks like. Because Brian was like, oh, like he, like, I was like, like, bro,

when we got to Vegas, I was like, dude, I'm like, I need this. We're going to get, when are we going to get the dope? He's like, just, when we get to the hotel room, I got you. So. K-Fed gives me musty vibes. Oh yeah. He's horrible. Like he took, he took, he took so much advantage over the situation.

Yeah. We'll talk about him too when we get there. But just, you know, um, but even him, you know, there was feeding, you know, they're all taking drugs and like coke and ecstasy or whatever that was around. And so that was kind of like I was like, I'll just get drunk. And when we get there, I already knew we were going to get like some like good ecstasy or like coke or something. We were going to party like and I just remember our brother, you know, getting anyway, it was just we landed and uh it was at the palms casino so like this big green limousine picked us up and uh it's crazy because i i've never said this before

but i used to date oh my god right yeah yeah well i grew up in vegas so i have to tell you after you tell me yeah and he but him and britney had like a weird relationship they did okay i saw that up close and personal so like after the first night did and I saw that up close and personal so like after the first night we got it was just like that was an interesting thing because that's that's uh he was coming up to the room personally with uh I I didn't know for a fact but I'm pretty sure it was an escort you know oh yeah so I got this vibe like when he came up this one time to visit us in the room, which was only once or twice. It was just me and Brittany. And, you know, he came up and was like hanging out with us.

And so I felt like they had already had something like, you know, Palms was kind of like her place to go. And this is my first time being involved. she used to stay at his house all the time too there you go so you know stuff i didn't even know any of that but it just felt like he was lingering around like he was waiting for me to be okay with like an orgy or something right yeah and i when he realized that that's not how i roll especially with i always love britney to death and like i'm not i don't like to share my women like that yeah especially with like a dude like that whole situation were you and britney hooking up by by them oh yeah okay so the week at your house you guys the first time we'd ever first time we had ever had sex was that that week before

yeah I went to Vegas and LeKentwood what is sex with Britney Spears like am I allowed to ask that she seems like she would be kind of why am I allowed to ask that wifey she's like she knows what sex is like uh you know I mean I'm I guess it's different with everybody right but um she's uh you know it was uh the first time was it was kind of raunchy you know it was in the shower and then like. She just seems very sexual. Yeah, it was. She was very aggressive.

She drug me back to the bathroom and we got in the shower. So it was kind of. But I was kind of already, you know, living that life. So I had some tricks too, you know. He's like, it wasn't all her. He's like, I'm pretty good in bed too. She invited me vegas afterwards and then got married to me so something was good yeah you guys probably just had super amazing you know that was interesting because after that we we was at her or the house where she grew up when that happened and everyone left even her brother and just left us at the

house alone and we come out of the bathroom like we're in the living room we're like having sex on the floor and we felt we fell asleep like passed out but naked yeah woke up her mom or dad or brother was awake christmas morning at like seven o'clock like get up britney wake up what is going on here i'm like putting my clothes on i'm freaking and her brother drove me home that day and i was just like, wow. And, uh, It was stopped in Vegas and got married. Yeah. You're like, uh, you're like a fairytale princess. Yeah. Yes.

But, you know, speaking of the, who we were talking about, like that was random because that's, that's kind of what I feel like the, the type of people that are still around her now, you know, that are kind of like providing her with things and then taking advantage of it when she's at a certain state of mind and uh i saw that up close and personal you know i saw a lot more that i won't mention but um it's it's it's vegas and just the hollywood in the industry i've grown up in it is a different beast it is not what people think it is it is literally a puppet show with people that are being controlled and money and it's really

dirty it makes you feel gross like when you really know everything that's going on behind the scenes you know she was just there this past week and for the 4th of July when that whole TMZ thing came out with the basketball player and we were we were talking about it because you know she still calls me like the last time I talked to Brittany was like two weeks ago yeah and um we were listening to a phone I record all the phone call conversations just because of everything like that was the that was how I was able to get the felony stalking charges dropped and I would have probably fought and beat the trespassing and everything but after being in jail for 70 days I just took the little plea deal they gave

me just to get out you know but do you have one that we can hear a sample of on the podcast um just so we can hear that it's her voice uh I could tell you this though I mean I don't even need to prove it but I do um I have spoken to her mom recently and her mom's confirmed it to me you know and then um also uh just knowing like the Britney you know brand like if if if um if she wasn't calling me I'd have been sued a long time ago you know right so like when I went to the yeah I've always questioned the a long time ago, you know? Right. So like when I went to the. Yeah, I've always questioned that. The Free Britney rally in July, you know, that's when I came out and was telling everybody,

look, I wouldn't be at this rally right now if Britney didn't call me and like start talking to me again because I'd put it behind me. Like the last time I talked to her was like 2010. And, you know, I recorded that conversation because this was like, it was just like a year into her calling me and the conservatorship was still like, I don't know, it was, it was a few years old, but she was thinking it was going to be over then. And I

was always like, that was always the excuse for us not to be able to see each other or hang out. It was like, you know, when this conservatorship's over we could uh you know we could do you do you feel like okay so you got let's we'll rewind it back real quick so you guys ended up getting married in vegas and then what happens 48 hours later so when we got back from the chapel um no one knew about it except for like i guess well all of vegas did we knew i was there well people started finding out after like, cause we were, you know, got married at like 5am. And then there was a few, there was a couple there getting married and some people took some pictures. So that is the media started talking about it and

it got out pretty quick. But once we got back to the hotel room, we started telling our friends and our people, Hey, look, we just got married. and that's when I realized like I started getting really nervous and scared because everyone started acting like crazy about it and they weren't happy and it was just like they called her mom and her mom got me on the phone and they were freaking out and they were like Jason you don't understand what you did like everything you've ever done in your life's gonna come out and I was just like oh my god what have I done I didn't know I murdered you you're like I'm just a partying football player like what is happening I'm 22 or something and like um I started getting a little overwhelmed and then um they were you know started coercing

me into this idea of like look uh would you sign an annulment and like if we let y'all date and you know make sure this is what you really want. Cause they thought, you know, they thought it was just like a flash, but, but you know, her mom knew that me and Brittany had, you know, feelings for ever. And since we were kids, we've always kind of crushed on each other, but, um, it was real, you know, my emotions. How was Brittany feeling with everybody telling her that she had to get an annulment? She actually wanted me to, uh, run away with her. She was like, like fuck everybody if they don't like it you know she's like i'll get my jet and we'll go to Ibiza because that's where she wanted to go to uh take me on her honeymoon

to the Ibiza Spain i was like fuck yeah but um you know what i mean i don't regret anything in life but um i you know like that was was something I look at and disappointed a little bit because I feel like I should have ran away with her, you know, because it was real. You thought you were doing right by her because she had so many people. I thought I was doing right. So in the family had this respect, this like I had this respect for the family just because I've known them since I was so young. And so, you know, there was that part of it too. And then they promised me all this other stuff. And, like, I didn't realize until I got sent home instantly.

You know, it probably took eight hours for the lawyers to come in and for us to sign everything. But I do remember Brittany changed. Like, she went from a certain way to, like, once these lawyers got there, her mom wasn't there yet, but they took her into the other room. And when they separated us for, like, an hour, maybe 30 minutes, when she came back, and I said this in the interview years ago, I was like, they brainwashed her or something,

but she was just, like, different. She knew what she had to do and she did it and it was just quiet and she just kept her head down i was like wow she probably felt defeated and just and that's why i kind of feel a little uh you know looking back at it now like i'm like wow because you know she was starting to feel the control coming in then right and I feel like it's like you know I feel like that you know she was actually using me and that whole situation is a way to try to like leave yeah and I didn't really see it that way and didn't understand that then but now after everything you know I'm like man you know I wish but you know like God works. It's crazy though, that you would even think that or say that because she's been trying

to run away forever now. It's what it seems like. It's a hundred percent. It's almost like Rapunzel in the castle and just nobody's letting her out. Yeah. And now there's all these conspiracies that she's like either dead or like. Is she dead? No, she's not.

No. Have you seen her? Like, does she FaceTime you or is it you know what that she hasn't facetimed me but um how does she get your number all the time um well i kept the same number so i don't change it since she's had it the first time but the first time she reached out to me when and you know 2020 when we started talking again she she reached out to me through Facebook so it was through a her friend her sister's friend messaged me I sent her my number and then my phone rang and then but her number's never been the same like I can't yeah for sure it's always a private call and um i did get a number like a a few weeks ago and then they instantly changed it because

it's interesting because after the conservatorship yeah like i had the conversations of me and her talking for hours you know before like up until you know, the conservatorship was over with, and then I, then we, like, like, a few months went by where we didn't talk, because her and Sam got married, and stuff, and so it started changing behind the scenes, and so there was periods where we didn't talk, but then once we, you know, like, since the conservatorships ended, it's, the conversation's been completely different, like, it's not as genuine genuine and i felt like it's always been like um screamed like someone's standing there something changed you know and yeah well she's probably scared to death of who she can trust and who she can't trust you know and and i think a lot of people have told her

lies about me and so she doesn't even know what to believe about me either and um but there's a reason she keeps reaching out to you and there's a reason she keeps reaching out to me so obviously you feel must feel like a safe space for her yeah you know because i'm genuine you know like if you i mean i'll i don't know if i'll let i'll let you listen to them maybe down the road if you want but like not on the podcast but right we were listening to one conversation last night and it was just like i'm like wow she sounded like like what happened like the conservatorship was going to be over 45 days from this conversation and we she talks about a lot of stuff in it and she just sounded so good and i'm like like you would have thought it would

have went the direction of like oh wow now she could be seen out in public and doing normal stuff with her husband and like even maybe do a podcast or like something together and it's just gotten worse. I don't think, do you think her mental health is intact? Do you feel like she's drugged maybe? I do feel like she's being drugged. I don't know if she's complicit with it.

Because her mom and dad were spiking her food. That's terrible. Putting drugs in her Red Bull and stuff. But I'll tell you something very interesting. When I first went to California, i'll tell you when i got really concerned when she posted nude on instagram for the first time and i was like i was like that did not make any sense to me like you know because there's better i just feel like britney spears could have really capitalized off of something like absolutely and then to just do

it this trashy little way sorry britney but it was trashy little way on instagram right and they put a little heart over and i was just like it really pissed me off it's almost like a picture she sent to somebody that somebody else posted of her that she didn't know about like blackmail thank you that's how i feel and and their conversation we were listening to last night she's talking about her social media and about the people that were running it. Now she says she's just done with it. She don't want nothing to do with it. So I feel like they're still propping it up, and she stays out of it for whatever reason.

Probably for mental health. I do feel like, I mean, you know what? I told her God's bigger than everything. I don't like putting, you know, mental health's real, but that's like putting things in a box. Right. When God could really, like, cure and heal all situations, and not the religious God, but, like, you know,

just like our creator God, the one that, you know, works in the spirit and really, like, you know, through faith and practice, you can tap into that stuff. But I feel like she's tapping into like the the psychic side of the uh spectrum with all the people around her and it's just uh i'll tell you what it's concerning is that um the last time she called me she she told me she was suffering from a health issue like a pretty serious one which one can we say uh it caught it was supposedly causing her to be bedridden but that's obviously not the case because we saw her in vegas right did did she

tell you what it was that's causing her to be bedridden should i say i think you should it's a it's a it's an autoimmune disorder. And, well, with all the trauma she's been through, I wouldn't doubt that she doesn't have two or three. Well, she took the vaccine also. And we talked about that. And that's that.

I looked it up. Like a lot of the autoimmune disorders are caught in the blood is, is through like the vaccine that spike protein. That's kind of how it works in the blood. But a lot of people are seeing that happen now with, uh, now that everyone that's took in the shot uh there's times passing by you're having you know these different elements

pop up but so you think this autoimmune disorder is caused by her getting the vaccine or possibly with a lot of the other stuff like you're saying trauma is what is the number one reason and stress and just like yeah maybe just like unhealthy lifestyle choices. She doesn't eat good and she drinks fucking Red Bull like they're going out of style. That'll make anybody fucking sick, you know? Exactly. So, but the thing was,

was I didn't, I wasn't 100% sure if that's 100% accurate. But she did, you know, I prayed for her on the phone and she did cry before she got off the phone with me. Like, I was like,

never heard her crying. She even told me she loved me. I was like, wow, that was intense. But then the next day, these pictures of her came out where she was on this yacht, supposedly in Mexico, and she's always surrounded by these dudes. Dudes, yeah. You never see her with girls. That's not healthy for a female i mean where's her girlfriends at you know it's like one and they're like i mean you know they're like

and like big dudes and their security is like um they're they're sketch they're all like you know sketch you know like well they're all paid paid professionals that are you know paid people to be around her and just handle her well they came to my trial in my preliminary hearing and testified that a completely false allegation. Like, they completely fabricated a scenario that never happened. Like, I was sitting there going, the guy would not even look at me. This was one of the black box security guards that was at the wedding and he's sitting up there and he's just saying yeah you know we've uh been we've been monitoring his instagram because they were trying to make me out to be like this stalker and

i was like anyways you know we've been monitoring his instagram and and we've told him numbers times not to come to the house uh the day before i saw him i was in my pickup truck. I videoed it. He come off the hiking trail and I called him over to the truck and told him, hey, look, not to come to the property. Completely lie. Right. Never happened. Well, they have to make themselves look good. But it made a lot of things clear to me.

I was like, wow. Because I always felt the security was there to not to protect her, but to protect the lie right whatever that is you know right whatever it is that they're hiding yeah whatever they're hiding and um i just feel like it's so it's just a few people like you know i'll say it kate hudson this guy that's supposedly her friend and manager for the last 15 years like he's very toxic um i feel like he's almost like the sam lefty part two you know and he's taking advantage of her and uh she for some reason trust him but in all these videos even in the tmz video from uh vegas with the basketball player he's all like hugging her

and he's always just touching her in a weird way where i'm like and sam's right there and i'm and i'm just always like this like this is not your wife why do you touch her why do you so always up on her in a weird way and it's almost like we get more more footage of you and her touching each other than her and Sam touching each other and so and then like I said some of the things I saw in Vegas just makes me think that they're part of continuing the mental health in a bad way because if she had really good people around her she would be healing and and just having more of a healthy lifestyle would be involved with her kids more right and there wouldn't be these opportunities for K-Fed and the family to say she's on meth or not on meth or whatever they're

trying to say supposedly she's already supposedly been offered to be put back into conservatorship and she'll be allowed to see her kids. So I heard that's something that's already been presented to her. So I feel like they're trying to almost blackmail her a little bit. They've always used her kids to blackmail her. In the media, negative media, to try coerce her into like something controlled scenario. So I don't know what's going to happen. You know, I just know

that the people around her are unhealthy for her. Right. And there's only a couple. And then everything we see from her doesn't match, you know, what we would like to see. Right.

So let's rewind it back real quick. So you got sent home after you guys got married. And after that, you know what we would like to see. Right. So let's rewind it back real quick. So you got sent home after you guys got married. And after that, when was the next time that you saw her or had communication with her? Because you said that after she came out. I saw her in Heaven Fed a Line in Kentwood at the Sonic for my good friend, Corey Butler. He passed away, drug overdose.

He was like 20-something. Rest in peace, Corey. Yeah. Brittany and Corey were close you know like but she was supposedly a virgin right and uh you know a couple you know so anyways so like i felt like she should have been at cory's funeral but her mom was there but she wasn't but i was you know kenwood Sonic. Sonic's the only place to eat, and everyone makes the Sonic loop, drives around town.

That's the thing to do, and they'll park. The kids out here do that. Yeah, sit on the tail. It's the same thing they do out here. And so I pulled up next to her, and I'm like, holy shit, there she is. So I got out and talked to her then, and it was Kevin sitting there,

scared to death. He's a pussy. He's a pussy. I mean, I was probably this size or bigger than i was playing football so like he was just like you know i made sure i went up to the window kind of flex on him flex on him a little bit you know but like that was the last time i saw her cordial and nice to you he didn't say anything he just kept looking straight wow yeah but then after that i moved to la um when you saw her what'd you say like hey i was just like hey why don't you at cory's funeral you know and she was like uh she said some something i don't know it

wasn't it was very quick yeah and i was like all right well it's good seeing you you know and it was just kind of really awkward and i just got my in my car and rolled out. But that was it. And then I seen her when I moved to L.A. like a year later. Football kind of ended for me, and I didn't really have any plans on what I was going to do with my life and my buddy. What made you want to go to L.A.? Who's got a teenager? We do, and guess what? She is ridiculously hard to keep track of and if i didn't have life 360

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he was like i got a place already picked out. You just got to come with me. Yeah. And I was like, sweet. And I think I had just made like, you know, like a little money. So, you know, I was working and then I got paid for my first interview ever that I ever did for Britney thing. Because for two years, I wasn't really able to capitalize off of it because of some of the contracts I signed. Do you ever feel bad for capitalizing off of your guys' relationship?

Only because my life was so different afterwards and the way that they exiled me from the situation. I always felt like, you know, I should have been able to use that since it did change my life and it is part of my life. And like when you say change your life, you mean like in a bad way? It just made I was just in the public eye. So, you know, ever since then, like I've been in the public eye. I got married and like the news. I don't know how the news found out about it, but they print it. And so so I just come to realize that that was going to be something common, you know, but they print it. And so, so I just come to realize that that was going

to be something common, you know, and I was also thinking, why not go to Hollywood and see if there's any opportunities. And I felt, um, I felt, um, what's the word? I just felt like I was up, it was like me against Britney's brand, not Britney ever, but it was like, oh, you guys, XI wasn't good enough or whatever. So I'm going to go to Hollywood and just put myself in the middle of you guys and just show you that I'm not going away right you can't just sweep me under the rug because they made me feel like I wasn't worthy you know right and uh so uh I did that I took the opportunity and and it was awesome like and so when I moved there I moved into the Arch. This is the apartment complex in North Hollywood where Ashley Simpson and all these people lived, you know. And anyways, like, I found out seeing her dad there.

Her dad lived in the apartment complex. I'm like, how do I move across the country and end up living in the same apartment complex? So I started seeing him, and she lived not far away off of Mulan Drive. And so I actually passed her all the time, you know, because Papa Ross used to park up there and it was really wild. And so it was just like random stuff like that. I went to her concert at the Staples Center and like saw her in person. Like she didn't see me, but like, you know, so just like that's the kind of way I saw her. It wasn't never her reaching out. Right.

And she she she kept in touch, you know, throughout the years. Like she starts like so after 2004, we talked probably for a few months and then that ended. And then she started calling again like 2009. And so we talked for like a year and then that ended. When she calls, what does she say? and then that ended. When she calls, what does she say?

Back then, it was really interesting because there was no social media still, like the Instagram and stuff. So it was just like, I was just like. We only had like Facebook and like MySpace. Yeah, Facebook and stuff like that.

So it was like, I didn't have a lot to go off of, but she would just tell me just random stories like, oh, this guy in my neighborhood trying to date me or something. I think she just wanted someone to talk to. She just wanted a friend. And so she just wanted someone to talk to.

She just wanted a friend. And so I just wasn't here, you know. But I've always had these feelings, and I guess I was kind of selfish about it too, even up until recently, because I always thought we would end up back together, you know, some way. Does a part of you still love her? And no disrespect to the new wife.

I do still love her, but it's different now, you know. Yeah. God's given me a beautiful wife and like yeah she resembles britney actually yeah i mean it's not really you know i could say maybe physically but um completely different person personality and uh she's helped me we were friends you know she's helped me a lot so yeah we'll get into the story story and everything but yeah you know when it changed i'll tell you when it changed when i got her when i went to the wedding and it was like oh you know that's what you do you crash the wedding you're

getting married to a guy so okay let's let's let's let's uh you know zone in on this for a second because he says it so nonchalantly he's like you know you crashed the wedding but it's not just anybody's wedding it's britney sphere's wedding you know so were you guys talking right before britney we were okay so it was also it was like two years we've been talking for two years because most people think that you're just this ex-boyfriend who came out of nowhere who has no communication with her and decided to crash her wedding you know you can't please everyone but like she started calling me in 2020 you know because i guess she just got released from this uh 51 50 thing that she was in it was april 2020 everyone could i mean it all lines up on the timeline

and it she got out and i guess you know after 30 90 days and whatever this thing was she she must have had some thoughts about me cause she reached out to me. I'm just like, it was very strange cause it'd been 10 years. Like literally, I had literally put it, I was like, I'm done with Brittany.

I was living my life. I had a son and it was like, you know, in another relationship. And I just started like working, you know, doing what I do. And so I wasn't even in the media at all,

at all. Yeah. You had gone away for a while and so I was done with it and when she started reaching out again the the free Britney movement had kind of got big and I it was just it was just all these different things happened really quick I got this email to do a documentary thing and then I ended up at the free Britney rally and that kind of put me back in the media a little bit. But we never stopped talking from that April all the way until two weeks ago. Like, you know, like I said, there's been a few months. Did she help you when you were in your addiction or did she know anything about it?

Absolutely. I mean, I think that's why she felt a lot. Like we were talking about it. It's like probably why the people around her felt comfortable to let her talk to me because i was in such a low place they didn't really feel threatened by me and they felt like probably that's a way to uh keep her preoccupied yeah exactly and they never thought that i would go as far as coming to california and going to the house and like calling things out does she have to call you from burner phones or is it like so like if she's being monitored so much like how does she even have it's always a burner number it's always a burner number

it's either an android or an iphone without an icloud right texts are always green uh and it's just uh it's always uh it used to be whatsapp and then you know, there's always these 805 numbers. Obviously, she gave it to me a few weeks ago. I was texting her for a couple of days until I started texting her, and she wasn't responding, and I started kind of hitting her with some hard text, and then she finally just. When you say hard text, what do you mean? Well, I was just like, so you told me you have this health health issue but i see you on a yacht in mexico with all these guys and you look like you're dancing

you're on the table and doing slam slapping you i'm just like cool i was like so what's the truth and she and then so i was just like to asking her so you know if you're really sick you know you had me worried yeah like how are you doing how are you she's like well what makes you think that's current and i was like okay but then i'm like the photos are current you know like the you look it up the photos were taken you know on the date they said they were taken so then i started saying things like well you remember vegas when so and so came up to our room and I walked in on certain things. And like I said,

I feel, I feel like that's happening with you right now. And she texts back and was like, that's, that's crazy or something. And I was like, a text. When you say walked in on certain things,

you feel like she's being like controlled or manipulated or sexually like in an orgy. Did you walk in on her having an orgy? I did Vegas. Yeah. Wow. wow so with can we like i fell asleep right the story is just like you know sorry britney but i fell asleep i woke up and she wasn't there i was like what so you know she had two suites and we were in our suite and then there was the mtv real real world suite yeah everybody

for the dancers and everyone for her toxic tour was staying in like so I woke up she's not here and went up there and I walked in it was like all the dance like everyone that was in that suite they were all just kind of doing their thing and I'm like you know this was you know um once once I saw her you know I got she came with me but it was just like she having an orgy with her dancers yeah oh wow yeah and like you know other people that i don't even girls and guys yeah gay guys you know it was like that was what was odd to me is because it was like you're looking up with a gay guy so that's what made me say is that the same thing that's happening right now because she told me kade's bisexual and so i'm like oh is that what y'all are doing is taking drugs and doing

orgies and stuff and then so she changed her number on me and i was'm like oh is that what y'all are doing is taking drugs and doing orgies and stuff and then so she changed her number on me and I was just like well that was random so um I guess you don't have these health issues that you told me about but it just that's the kind of lies I'm talking about that don't make sense you know I don't know why she would say those things but uh and you haven't talked to her since then no I have some missed calls from a private number you know and it's always usually her that calls calls from a private number you know and it's always usually her that calls me from a private number I have no other never phone never gets a private call from anybody else right but uh it's only you know she's called twice since then and but I don't

know I'll probably get a call after this podcast hi Brittany if you're watching we love you um so let's circle back to the wedding you had been talking to her for two years prior to that the morning of the wedding you just wake up and you're like I'm not gonna let this fucking go down because first of all where did Sam even come from yeah exactly so exactly yeah 100% the dude he's a you know he's a prop in the game you know so exactly and how does he get in the circle when it's so tight and so i saw you running around the house and i mean you ran around the house a good while i went to her room it was locked and she but she was nowhere there like unless she was in the room the only time that made me think that maybe she was there was when i was actually tackled at the end of it all i was laying on the

ground like they were giving me water because i was exhausted it was hot that day and everyone were you sober oh yeah come on so yeah for sure so everyone around um i was looking at they were all around the top i was like on the ground how nice of them though to tackle you and give you water oh no right now no no no i said how nice of them to tackle you and give you water i thought i was I thought. I was like the security guard. That's nice. I was like, can I get some water? And the security guard went and got it. And I'm like tied up like this. And they're like pouring it in my mouth.

And they all go, and they look at the window. And I'm like, as soon as I turned around, there was no one there. And I was like, was that Brittany? And no one said anything. But I think it was, I never saw her. I saw Sam and I saw Kate. What did Sam do when he saw you? Well, I was in the back of the cop car at that time

and the windows were tinted. So I don't even think he knew I was back there. Right. I watched him walk around. I just got his body language and just was like, he's a bozo. He's a straight bozo. She has a type.

Yeah. I mean, besides you. As long as he doesn't move, as long as he doesn't say anything, I guess, maybe. Yeah. But, what, Aquagia, you know, maybe? Jupe. You know, either way, like, we pray for Sam, you know,

because he's probably in over his head. You know, they're taking advantage of his ignorance and not to say that. Well, they're saying that Sam's married to his sister, who pretends to be his sister. We've said that there's some, looks of i think sounds gay right and britney and i've talked about it a lot of people think he's gay just people that know gay people and i'm gonna tell you what i know gay people because they're every gay person in hollywood trying to fuck me like i'm just like i just they love no that's how they are and they love alpha males

they love it and i'm just like you know they love what they can't have and i just but i was always really fun you know so i wasn't did you ever give in to anything about any temptation no but i was like man if i was gay i would never have some of the financial issues you could be gay for pay yeah right he's like i couldn't do it you know but um yeah right he's like i couldn't do it you know but um you know but uh you know i got in what really what really uh financed my hollywood life was like i found medical marijuana like i didn't know anything about it from louisiana when i moved there uh my friends schooled me about the doctor and how the prescription worked and how all that worked and then we ended up starting the delivery service legal you know me and my buddy and we were like one of the first ones in LA and so I got into working with the dispensaries and then eventually growing it and then extracting it so it was a whole underground world before it was legal in 2016 it really cash flowed my whole

you know life basically yeah and so it allowed me to have a life in and in the expensive you know city of LA at the time in Hollywood and go out to the clubs and be able to like hang out and be in that world but uh you know I just so the morning of the wedding the morning of the wedding my friend Rebecca here now wife at the time she's my friend so you you were involved during this time you guys had met so let's okay let's circle back when did you and rebecca meet rebecca you want to come on the couch baby come on in this is miss mrs jason alexander yeah so rebecca and i were and what I was saying when the change happened was when I got arrested and went to jail and everything, like, uh, spiritually things changed, you know,

because of my faith and stuff. But like at the time we were just friends. And so they were helping me through the process a lot. Like she spoke into Brittany also, you know, many times. Was Brittany happy when you got married? Yeah, she seemed to really, like, she seemed to be cool with it, right? How do you feel? Yeah, we talked to her. Do you feel like she was happy that you guys got married or that you were in his life? Yeah, I think so. I think that it's been interesting because I talked to her last year,

and the conversation was more genuine we I met him and then we went to Huntington Beach where I have some friends and you met him and when what year uh July 2020 okay and um then we so we were in Huntington Beach with some of my friends and uh we were having these conversations with Brittany during that time, and it was really normal for the situation. And then it changed after we tried to go see her, and we're texting, and I instantly knew that's not Brittany texting. And I could discern it, and I take the phone from him and I go I just start

texting and I want I was provoking it out whoever this was and finally they go oh my rings on her finger bro yeah and I was like that was the first time this is ridiculous so you think that was Sam yeah it was Sam or somebody around her trying to be funny. So do you guys, when you guys talk to her, you guys actually have phone conversations with her too so that you know that it's her and it's not somebody just playing a joke on you? 100%, like 1,000%. Because you know how people are these days.

No, I know. And that's okay for them people because you can't, you know, like you said, you're going to have people that are going to just question everything which but uh because it for me it was uh it was difficult for me because i even like in my head you know a lot of times was like what's really going on because that's why i started having only phone call conversations because the text got so dis-bobulated. It just didn't add up. And so.

And they said the text would like go back and forth where if you got too into like something that was serious or real information that wasn't just talking about, you know, simple things, it instantly be this like more intense text that was like clearly somebody around her wants to make sure that this stays a contained situation they don't so it's like they don't like logic they don't like critical thinking right they don't like somebody that's gonna like point out the obvious and they just want to keep her in this state of like

you're britney spears you're a pop star. You could, you know, take the back exit and just like, this is how you live when you're this type of person and just keep her in this weird dumbed down mindset. When I talk to her, you know, I'll have just normal conversations like, hey, so when's the last time have you talked to your sons? You know, like, why have you talked to them them what do you think about these different stories and allegations and just kind of keeping it normal and they don't like that because it's like obviously it makes her think

makes her think and she's you know she's less like i don't know i'm not in the i'm not a fly on the wall right now so i can only imagine like what's actually how it's all actually you know working on the inside but so you think that they actually allow her to speak to you guys yeah and i think they do it to track us as well and just to make sure that we're well that was a big reason for us to do this podcast is because you know like on my social media and hers like we don't we're not really private people. So we don't really post a lot of stuff and we haven't since we've been married. And like it has been a lot of games.

And like she said, and that's kind of why I feel like it's so important for me to talk and say, you know, my side of the story or just like put myself out there a little bit because for one, for her safety, if she is, you know, using these drugs, it could possibly hurt her or she's having health issues or these people around her are taking advantage of her or whatever. Cause you know, her dad got removed from the situation and we all thought things were going to be better, you know? And like, do you think he's fully removed though? I don't know, but either way, he's been like a fall guy, you know, to kind of take all the rap. But she's still missing a lot of money.

There's a lot of things that they're using these distractions to keep from focusing on, like, hey, where's, like, $600 million, you know. Brittany has been in a conservatorship. She can't spend her money. Why is she only like why is she gonna run out of money you know like what do you mean she's only worth 50 or 60 million dollars like that this doesn't when you look at the the you know finances and everything and i think uh it's corrupt there's this documentary i posted on my Instagram. It's called Slave Princess. And it really goes into the depth of the corruption.

And, you know, not just with Britney, but Hollywood in general. And a lot of people that get in these contracts and around these certain people, you know, it gets really deep. And so. Do you think she's involved in the Illuminati? Well, the Illuminati is for real. It's definitely a real thing, but it's not like it's not like so conspiratorial. You know, it's just like there is the banking system. There are, you know, trilateral.

Yeah, the Rockefellers and all these families. So like in Hollywood was, you know, like Hollywood was is the Holly tree, which is what which is wands are made of, the wood from a holly tree. That's just like the story. And so Hollywood is this fabricated reality that actors and musicians are part of, and sometimes they know it, sometimes they don't. And I don't think Britney actively is enrolled like Jay-Z is or like, you know, like some of these other people, but, um, you know,

cause when you start talking like that, Oh, you're a conspiracy theorist and all this stuff, but she's definitely being handled, you know, in a certain level. I mean, nobody can, can deny that. Exactly. So, and, and then, and then the interesting thing is is like with all the media like i reached out to this daphne lady who did the daily mail article and like they never mentioned me in this article and it's just like you know for the one person she's been talking to and like actually

went to the wedding it's just like they really overlooked me for some reason and like they really want everyone to think that she is making bad choices, and they want to put all the blame on her, and I just don't feel that's the case. I feel like she's a victim, and that she needs to have some compassion, and she needs to have people around her that are loving and caring to help her,

but the ones that are around her now are just child's play for selfish, personal gain, and there's a lot of money moving around you know i mean i'm sure you you and jelly get a taste of it like this is like once you get to a certain level like you know things you know we are nowhere near britney's level people make you know britney but we're like poor people compared to britney but like for instance uh just as simple as an assistant or like uh yeah or someone like a hairstylist, you know, people are making 80, a hundred grand a year. That's on the low end. And then you have

people like lawyers that are making a couple hundred million dollars a year off of it. It's just like, it just keeps going and going. Do you ever feel that you talking to the media jeopardizes her being able to get away? You know, I don't, you know, because the way they have characterized me in the media and they've used the media as a weapon against me, I feel like it's my only way to kind of like combat that is by putting myself out there a little bit. Because I haven't really put myself out there a whole lot intentionally, like, besides the media just taking something and putting it out.

Right, making you look crazy. You know, so this is like me just saying, you know, the truth and the story from my perspective. And like, that way people don't know. And guys, I just want to interject really quick because my followers know how I am. I'm a huge energy person. So I just want you guys to know

I'm sitting across from him and his wife right now and their energy is so good and just so sweet and relaxed and calm and it's not anything that you would ever read about. Yeah, not at all.

100% real. I mean, even his mannerisms when he's telling these stories, you can usually tell when somebody's lying and it just seems like you're really just telling your truth. You got a very strong gift

in discerning. I do too. And when I feel anxiety,'re really just telling your truth. You got a very strong gift in discerning. I do too. And when I feel anxiety, I feel other people's stuff. Same. So like, and if it's not other people's, the circumstance itself, the witchcraft involved in it, I feel that anxiety. But that's just how you start to have a relationship with God. Like that's when you start understanding how He talks to you

and how your emotions work. Things that I thought were me when I was not as rich in my faith, I'm learning now is me picking up on something else. So now I can discern differently and make better decisions and acclimate my life to that and really grow as a person. So that's where I'm at now. So thanks for recognizing that. I got a question for you. And this is just, I'm sure this is just going to be inquiring minds. People are going to want to ask this. How does it make you

feel this, you know, that your husband is so set on helping Brittany and like, know it's kind of like it seems like you guys kind of share this passion though so like how does this whole situation make you feel as a wife as a new wife um you know I like I like Brittany a lot and when we talked as for like as friends it was pretty normal and you know we talked she I knew she cared about him a lot and so that's important and there is that bond they have and that's also important so to me like i'm not intimidated by it um but at the level of pain in the situation is so intense like uh but that's uh that's that's a guy she looks like she's about to start crying right now i know she picks up on it you know you can just feel all the hurt from her yeah and it hurts you yeah and we've spoken to a lot of people that do trafficking like

such real trafficking situations we went and watched the sound of freedom movie recently that's more like child trafficking but like uh the level of trafficking that has happened in the britney basically is it's more professional it's more elite and uh she is a victim like i said so like i feel like it's important to talk about it and um that's why this is i've never had like my my ex relationship it caused a lot of problems because the she was very jealous i guess you know it just wasn't easy and i never i never was cheating on i never had it wasn't it wasn't ever that disrespect for me it was always like just genuinely like i have this history and it's never been closed and there's a reason for that and I feel like that's where kind of my position is to kind of be a mouthpiece a little bit about it to give some type of clarity and the fact that she was my

friend before and then she understood it and then like once like I said once I went to jail and I was in jail that time for the trespassing, the wedding, I had a revelation. You know, it was like, look, God spoke to me in my dream and said, she's going to she's she's she's you have to move on. That's not that's not an option for you. But I didn't know how or what. I just knew I was done chasing that idea that i'm going to be with britney after all these phone conversations we had i just realized that that was kind of making me crazy a little bit so you feel like you and britney have a twin flame journey you guys kind of chose that journey for this life do you believe in stuff like that i believe they had a

soul like it was like karmic tie a holy soul tie in a good way that was always pulling them out of dark pits. And I think that that's part of what I honor and recognize. Yeah, I think that's so sweet of you because most women would not be as mature about the situation. Yeah, that's the spiritual maturity, emotional. I never had that in my life, even from my mom. So it's new for me and like it's making me a better person too because I get angry, not in a really angry way, but it comes on. Aggressive.

Righteous. And so I feel like there is righteous anger, and it's okay to get angry about some things and god's that god gives you know he wants you to stand up for yourself so for her she she understands that and does it take it personal and she talks me we could talk through it and and that makes it um that makes it really you know refreshing for us and for me but you know it just when when we saw each other after I got out of jail, we saw each other again,

and instantly I knew something was different. And yeah, it happened really quick, and we started getting intimate. And I never thought I would be married because of my trauma with my family getting divorced and I was always scared of them just getting married and I didn't I just thought it was kind of religious to like I'm not getting married it's kind of like that's church stuff if I'm loyal to you you know I'm loyal to you and I like this weird thing and so like with her

she was really adamant about like if we're gonna be together you know that's a spiritual tie and it's something that you need that we that I want to do if we're going to move forward she deserves that I was like I honored that so I said there's a lot of peace in marriage like you know as teammates when you work together and you're hand in hand and you know you have that extra bond that's kind of like whatever the fuck you're doing whatever the fuck i'm doing we're still together and nothing's gonna break that kind of thing i love that when's your birthday december december what 11th you're a sagittarius when's your birthday i'm a libra october 16th oh yeah that's me and jay uh fire and air i'm sad i'm aquarius and he's sad she's

a december 4th so air fuels the fire yeah i mean the zodiac i'm not super into it but it's always accurate for me and uh explains me to a t i when i read them go figure you marry another sagittarius by the way and that wasn't that you know britney's a sagittarius right you know i think her birthday is the second because yeah it is i was talking to her makeup artist and kind of helped set up this thing where, and she ended up calling on her birthday before we were married. And it just, it's never bothered me. shit is gone and that people like kade hudson maxi uh sam you know all the people behind the scenes that you know that like this is not a game and like there's no fear and you need to quit the shit you know i've talked to her i said god's gonna get you the fuck out of there like she's

in a shithole. You get so emotional when you talk about it. I think that's so sweet because you're his wife and you're here crying over his ex-wife. That means a lot. That just shows that you want to help her. It's compassion that's not around her. Her mom should actually be fighting harder. Let's talk about her family.

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going to come from like speaking up and they just you know they they're really um fearful yeah her mom even said to us was like um yeah britney just needs to be scared so bad where she'll you know make this right decision to get out her mom has said that that's what she said what exactly did she say she said this to you guys post office in november and last november and she was scared at first and then she realized okay we're normal and then just that's how i was i was scared too i asked hayley today i was like how are they are they? Are they okay? And Haley was like, they're amazing. I was like, okay, cool. I knew it was going to be like that.

But it's how it always is because, like, when you don't know, all you see is what you see. And it definitely does throw a curveball at people. So, but. When you saw her mom, what happened? Yeah, she was just, she seemed just so fearful. I'm like, where is the fear coming from? Like, I don't care if you got blackmailed five times like this and this you did this or that like just you know stop stop being afraid like

that's some bullshit like and that's how this whole situation happened you know right and so she said to you guys when you guys were at the post office that she was britney needs to just kind of comply yeah she was kind of timid and I started pressing for you know we'll have you talk to Sam like how much she said she's talked to him only for like 15 minutes on the phone I'm like okay and then like just questions like when was last time you saw her like something about she couldn't get into the rehab facility in 2019. So they've been blocking everybody from seeing her, even her mom. She just recently went to L.A. and had to go to Cade's house to try to set up a meeting with Brittany that lasted two and a half hours.

So Brittany talking bad about her mom on social media, do you think that's her? I think that's Maxie or kade or the people that are pushing the narrative for her media and i think she's done with that and britney's not she's she's for whatever reason she's not saying anything but she's has nothing to do with the social media right and if you had said that but i was just making sure i wanted to clarify for everybody at home that's listening and uh maxi for people that don't know is sam's good friend who's uh i don't know if he's transgender whatever he is but he is uh responsible for getting sam the gig on the slumber party

video and set that whole meeting up so um do you think the wedding was real because there's so many conspiracies going around about her being photoshopped in or like a body double there were definitely photoshops and she admitted some of that in the conversation when we all three talked probably in april and we had a conversation it was like i could like, well, you guys are playing games, so I'm going to play games back. And it's like, who's sitting there? Like, Cade is sitting there with you? Or, like, what's really going on?

And, you know, before all this happened, she was more normal. So that's how I know. Her voice sounds more forced. She's definitely not as relaxed in our conversations now. And you just can't you they get cut off and she just like you know the phone just goes dead in the middle of a conversation and then you don't hear from her for a month and then all of a sudden she'll call and so do you think the wedding was real i think it was um i think so so. I don't know if she was actually there or not. Like, I don't know.

But I think it's real for, like, not like she wanted to be. Just, like, that was, like, an option they gave her. Right. And they gave her this, like, script and said, this is how it's going to go. And she had some feelings for Sam, maybe. And she was like, oh, he's cute. Yeah, that could work.

And, like, she goes with these, like, ideas that they put at her and they say it's gonna be funny it's gonna be great you just say you know and it'll be a way to put you out i don't know exactly how it works but i'm just assuming you know from experience and what i discern so this will paint a picture it was probably a contract where it's like hey it's gonna last two years that's why you're hearing about they're having trouble now maybe now he's gonna exit you know and then you know i don't know what the next plan is her dad do you think her dad is a good guy or do you think he's not because i feel like the media portrays him as a monster now after the conservatorship and stuff like that but do you feel like he's just really trying to protect her he's a dumbo like the the brains behind the operation is lou taylor and she's the one coerced uh jamie into the conservatorship and like she's

the the the one that's really uh you know known in hollywood for trying to do this to other people she tried to have lindsey loan put in the conservatorship. Lindsay had to move to Dubai to get away from everybody. Kanye, you know, I mean, Kanye is, you know, was talking about moving to another state or had to change residence so that they couldn't do that to him, you know, and that's definitely a strategy Hollywood uses. And Britney's probably like the MO for that now you know but uh I don't

think he's that smart but uh if anything I feel like he was controlling some of the like even though it was overkill he was keeping her out of a lot of uh toxic situations like the one like the one I saw her in in Vegas you know like that she he they knew that stuff was going on i promise you like that was just my quick little glimpse into the window so just imagine like uh like the if i were to see you know more right so that was just a weekend exactly and so the dad is and mom both you know and i think the mom's probably guilty of some things too i know the brother probably guilty of some things, too. I know the brother's guilty of some things.

He's blackmailing. He's the one getting us drugs. And I'm like, you know, just like so. What's your thoughts on Jamie Lynn? She's just she's just naive. She's just you know, she's just she grew up really young and like Lou still manages her. Her whole life revolves in the shadow of Brittany you could tell when she did that show on ABC she was really insecure and cried about it like so

and that goes to show you that the mom and dad are horrible people because they're not giving the the the kids the compassion and love that you're supposed to get you know and that they're like show parent showbiz parents yeah exactly and so um kind of that fake religious stuff like when i talked to her she's like well we just need to pray for her and it's like well that's not gonna do like shit like yeah i pray for her but also like god's inside of you so like go do something i mean i'm glad she did go try to see britney but her friends are like hypocrites like she has this one friend jansen who just does nothing it's like what are you doing like speak out like and then her laura lynn her cousin and courtney seems nice they're all okay

they're nice but what does that do there's nice and. And then there's strong, powerful. Let's get things going. And if more people were like that, this situation would not be a standstill. Yeah. So in a perfect world, what would you guys hope to accomplish? Like the next time Brittany calls you, like, what do you guys want to do?

Are you guys going to keep playing the ring around the Rosie? Are you guys going to actually like try to help pull the trigger on getting her out? And like, well, if you do get her out, what's the plan then? Well, I think, you know, she she's been she grew up in this, you know, even in the Mickey Mouse Club, you know, so she's used to this man, like people telling her what to do. And so she has free will at the end of the day i just i just want to give her the option if she does you know uh feel like she needs somebody or

she wants to get out of it that she has people that can she can rely on you know so you feel like she does have free will you don't feel like she's being controlled right now it's like part it's she has to i think she's just gotta get so fed up that she doesn't the issue is the drugs like okay maybe like drugs but at the same time you can't do drugs around certain people who are also just you don't know their full motives and just because you see them when they come to your house doesn't mean that they're the same way away from you like just because Paris and Cade like talk to you all nice when you're on the phone and like when you go out sometimes like doesn't mean that they talk about you the same way

away from you and there are political connections there's so many connections and it's the money money motivated i get it we need money to live but at that point you know it's too it's just not she's gotta come to that point where she doesn't she has to stand up for the drugs she's gotta stand up for herself you know like so you think of britney right right i mean she came to the point where she's like i had enough she took off running and she she said, fuck this shit. You know what I mean? So you think of Brittany? But I think that kind of happened when I was in jail,

and her car broke down on the interstate. I don't know if you remember that coming out. She was alone, and the car broke down, and she got into someone's car. They didn't even realize who it was at first. And if you read the article, she didn't even call Sam. They called, who did they call? Just the police. Somebody she was in the car with. And so, yeah, someone that she was in the car with called the police. Brittany didn't even call Sam. I don't know if,

I felt like that was her trying to escape or get away then because it was like she was alone it was after I you know the wedding thing and all that happened and to see the media like play out in jail like like her lawyer um Rosengart went on TMZ and he stood in front of the mature county police the building and was like we're gonna prosecute to the fullest and and I saw that from inside jail on TMZ and I'm like this is crazy and then then I go to going to prosecute to the fullest. And I saw that from inside jail on TMZ. And I'm like, this is crazy. And then I go to court and I find out the district attorneys are filing the charges,

not Rosengart. So it wasn't like that was a show pony. And then I see Sam. Then I see me on Good Morning America where they talk about her ex-husband crashes the wedding and this and that. And then the next day it's Sam in this like formal interview that never got asked about the situation and it was just like his career and how being married to Brittany's helped his career and I'm just like all these and then I read my discovery packet and Kay is in there, you know, lying to the investigators that Brittany had said to him when I came there that she was concerned and scared. Which when I asked Brittany about that recently after the first or second time I talked to her after, you know, I was released from jail, she said I had nothing to do with that.

So I was like, well, he said that. So this is, you you know he lied so and one of her former makeup artists also said that she she didn't have any legal say-so with that so with all that in mind for her to get out it would take her being desperate and not willing to go with the party anymore and we also told her we we have someone who can get you out in 24 hours and they go they can go above the ventura police who are connected to her husband this whole thing with the ventura police there you have abbas paymard you know and he supposedly there's maddie paymard who's maddie as gary and then we're just supposed to like believe that these Kim Kardashian wannabes,

which there's nothing wrong with Kim Kardashian. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to look like her. Like she's beautiful. But at the same time, the context is a little off with like. So Sam has relatives in the Ventura Police Department. Sheriff Department. Yeah. Relatives in the Ventura Police Department.

Sheriff's Department, yeah. So we feel there's connections there and that they were exploited in the case with me trespassing and the way they held me on these felony charges with high bail and just the way that whole process played out. Because I had also years before when her dad was involved still, like in 2010, I did the same thing. I went to her house, me and my cousin, and we snuck in the neighborhood,

like the same type of private gated type community, got right up to the driveway and like three SUVs pull up. The last one stops and they recognize we were out of you know place and we're like what are y'all doing and I told him I'm going to my uncle Jamie's house up here and they're like radioed hey Jamie we got somebody and I was like Jason Alexander and Lynn and Jamie came out to the sidewalk and we talked and they were like you know yelling at me what are you doing here and they were just like don't you ever come here

again i was like britney's been calling me and i she like i want to see her and they were like you're not gonna see her you got to go we're gonna call the police next time and they had me escorted out and then no it was nothing ever happened i know the media no one even knew right but then this time you know like it was handled way differently. Well, you were alive also, weren't you? I did go alive, but I was scared. It was an intimidating situation because me and her had spoken about her security being armed once before. talking about uh meeting months before that she was like it was always trying to find a time where either sam wasn't there or if i came you know uninvited that she was worried their bodyguards might shoot me or something and it just was like what do you mean you can't tell them guys like hey

i know this guy like you know and in the lab i don't know if it showed but one of the security guard did pull his weapon out he never actually pointed it at me but um he did pull it out which uh was kind of surprising to me um and i just felt like the whole thing was really sketched like you know from the people that were there that day i did see body cam footage later on from my attorney of K like screaming at everybody and just really belittling the people that were there about how did this happen to the most,

like the biggest pop star in the world, you know. And he just like freaking, just freaking out, you know, like this, and I'm like, whoa, this guy is unstable. And I even saw him before they had tackled me and i was like hey kate i saw there's kate i mean hey and he looked at me and took off running and so you know it was just like no normal conversation happening and it was just like uh britney had no say so right well that seems to be the going consensus that really she just has no control no control you guys think that she's being that do you think that um she's under the influence in the videos where she's twirling around and dancing non-stop though i

think those are all like i don't know if any of those are current videos but the one in vegas recently the the the people that were witnesses of that said she was speaking in that British accent you know kind of like she was in 2009 when she did her hair and shaved her head and all that and so that's why I say you know the people around

her are not healthy and they're just they're just fluffing her up in whatever way just for their own personal padding their pockets yeah whatever that looks like and you know i don't know if she realizes or she even cares how her reputation looks because you know it seems like she just doesn't care but it's a concern because you should care that everyone thinks you're dead or on drugs and that's how they've controlled you in the past and got you in the conservatorship first of all

and um i'm just concerned because it's gotten worse since the post conservatorship supposedly been over with yeah it hasn't gotten better and like you would you would just expect she got married okay if sam was uh genuine and this whole was genuine, it just would not look this way. Right. You know, like it's like a circus. Yeah, it's like a freak show. What fruit are you? You know, the fruits of your labor. You know, it's just like, you know, it's to me, it's it's hard to watch. Yeah. And concerning. It's brutal. But I don't point the blame at Britney 100%,

because I do know that there's a lot of other things at play that influence it. Absolutely. Well, I think what you guys are doing is admirable, because it's pretty much you guys against the world. It feels that way. You have a lot of fans, though. You have a lot of people who really support you 100 when they found out on tiktok that you were

coming on the podcast i mean there was just so many people like i've had so many people like when are you gonna do bunny's podcast like how do you know i was gonna do it well i i mistakenly left a comment somewhere i forget what it was but they were like jason needs to come on the podcast i was like he is and oh man That must have been cuz I started Ramming boxes like when you know your body's podcast like a lot of people like like she didn't speak about it But she had a dream about Brittany before I even told her my connection to Brittany when I first met her She didn't even know who I was

I never told her like I knew her for like a year or two She didn't even know who I was and she didn't even know who I was. I never told her. I knew her for like a year or two, and she didn't even know who I was. And she didn't even keep up with Brittany, but she told me later on that she had this dream, and that's why they came to the gym that day. And then we met in the hot tub, and then she prayed for me and a lot of stuff. I was going through that separation.

That's hot, praying in the hot tub. I know. I like that. I was like, I don't want to go to the gym today, but I felt something that I should that morning, and I was like, okay, whatever. to go to the gym today, but I felt something like that I should that morning. I was like, OK, whatever. And then I'm just sitting out there and I I see him and I just I looked over and I thought that guy's like, you know, you don't see many men like that. Like where I could look in his eyes and tell he was discerning and he wasn't like, you know, could be hot guys but they're just like they don't

have bad personalities yeah but i could exactly he was different i grew up in vegas trust me there's a lot of hot dudes with no souls yeah you know yeah exactly you got a lot of they don't have substance yeah and i saw his tattoo and it was weird like i get dreams and and visions of things before they happen sometimes. I hadn't had any in the entertainment industry. That night before I met him, I did have one, and it was about Britney being trapped. I didn't even follow any of that. I wasn't a fan.

I liked her music. Then I see his tattoo, so we start talking about Hollywood.llywood and i'm like well yeah it's kind of weird i had this dream about britney spears and i never get things like that and we talked more about it and he never told me who he was at all he's like yeah let me not tell her what are the odds that i have a dream and i'm just and i didn't even know she was married you know before like he's 10 years older than me so i just didn't follow that when it came out when did you guys end up getting married in march this year okay so march of 2023 yeah will you guys play a newlywed game with me in a little bit i think it would be cute cute little ending to this podcast yeah what's my name it up a little bit

yeah for sure what is married life like now like are you happy like you guys made this decision took the plunge like talk to me about that because first year of marriage was brutal for jelly and i i don't know how we made it to seven wow you know what um god is good yeah and i think we like together with putting that first and like submitting to that, like everything else kind of falls second. But, um, for me, it's all new because like I said, I've never had someone that's so compassionate and spiritual and understanding as her soft and just can communicate really well.

And, and, and so like that's super refreshing. And then communication is huge in relationships. People don't realize that, but it is exactly. And I, like I said, like, that's super refreshing. Communication is huge in relationships. People don't realize that, but it is. Exactly. And like I said, like, I'm kind of like, I forget easy, you know, and I'm always, like, happy and stuff. So, like, in a lot of my ex and stuff, we had these really, like, horrible fights and different things,

and I never really could understand things but it was just and i forget and then it would be and then and then like toxic cycle toxic cycles and just like uh so a lot of times thinking it was me you know and uh when it probably wasn't half the time so well it takes two to tango it does that's why i said half the time. Well, it takes two to tango. It does. That's why I said half the time. But, you know, like then with this and the way she's been with, you know, understanding my life with Brittany and the way my, you know, kind of being in the media and like how it's affected me and my mental health a little bit just yeah it's got to be social anxiety type stuff and like

picking up on people judging me and and that kind of like hurts sometimes you you know so that's been good and then um yeah it's we both have a lot in common you know so like she's super artistic and she uh paints and she writes music and like, uh, different. Sorry. You're good. Um, imagine that. But,

uh, is it a private number calling? No, I was going to say that would answer it. A hundred percent would answer. That would have been brilliant. Yeah. So,

I mean, what do you love about him, Rebecca? He's, he said nothing but wonderful things about you. What do you, let's give a rundown on him. Oh.

No, I'm like, it's pretty neat how it happened. Like, just as his friend, I never would have thought about that. Just because, I don't know. I just never would have thought about that. It was strictly friendship. Like, there was never a thought of intimacy in that kind of way so when he came on to me I was like oh shit like what are you doing and then he was like okay and I'm like no no no you're like no no please don't no no come here I can't pass that up I love that well let's play a newlywed game I'm gonna ask you five questions. Mimi has a marker and some paper.

What should we wager that you guys are going to win if whoever wins? You guys need to think of something that the other one has to do. It could be sexual. It could be whatever. I'm going to run and go pee real quick, so you guys think about that, and we'll be right back once I. So we were just talking because we just had a – this has been a two-hour podcast, and I had to pee my eyes were floating but Jason was just uh filling me in on you're writing a book

yeah I've been writing a book like in the last six months it's taken some time but um I'm calling it out of the rabbit hole it's kind of Alice in Wonderland based like themed or whatever so uh and you know we did the chapters kind of cool and she's doing all the artwork and helping me write it but uh it's basically encapsulating this conversation and more you know it's going to go into more detail also is it going to be reality or is it going to be fiction it's going to be reality because everything in it is true. And, you know, it's going to talk about

me and fatherhood. Right. And just, because for me, being a dad was really a great experience. Yeah. Because I was there

for the whole process all the way up until, you know, a couple years ago. I never talk about kids unless people want to talk about them because I just feel like everything kids are off about. Well, just because of the situation currently,

I try to stay away from it. But either way, like, it was awesome. And I was nervous. And what I say is, it's like, it comes natural. Like, especially if you are in it to win it and you want to be a dad. It's like, it just comes natural, you know. And it's like, that process is really cool. So I really look forward to that again, you want to be a dad it's like it just comes natural you know and it's like that process is really cool so i really look forward to that again you know in the future are you guys gonna have babies yeah we're gonna have babies probably three and then adopt two

yeah so that's her idea but i was like i don't know if i want to have can we get a surrogate listen i'm all for surrogates yeah we talked about that too it was like i was like well then i'm gonna have to implant the seed because i'm not doing that so when do you think this book will be coming out um you know um i'm not sure but i know um i was trying to kind of make it happen around the same time Britney's came out, you know, just kind of. Do you think it's really her writing this book? No, but, you know, it's still, you know, kind of. And another thing I didn't talk about was like I read her mom's book and her sister's book a little bit writing this book.

And her mom mentioned me in her book. And I was really upset with what she said said just like talking about how she would never like be okay with britney mary and me she said it would be a curse on any of our daughters if jason married them but didn't her daughter get pregnant by like some weird creepy old dude i was thinking that was nice to you lynn yeah it was the first time i'd ever heard it because the book's old you know it was written a decade ago or something i think or something like that yeah in like i never read it but until until recently writing my book and uh i was like wow that's really that really hurts my feelings you know but she would say it because she always loved me growing up it sounds to me like they

don't really have any loyalty to, they don't even have loyalty to each other, so why would they have loyalty to you? It's very shady and unfortunate. I guess that's what

Catholics do. Yeah. Whatever. Are her and her dad still married, Jamie? And whatever her name is. You know what?

They've been split up since Brittany was a kid, but they've maintained this weird, like, image that they were married. So no one really knows. I think now that the dad lives with the daughter, with Jamie Lynn. Yeah, so. Weird.

Yeah, it's a complicated situation. But he hasn't been doing well health-wise, you know. He's a druggie, too, you know. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Well, you know, alcohol is a drug. Oh, true. But, you know, I've heard rumors, you know, recent rumors within the last couple years

that, you know, dibbling, dabbling with some stuff. It's terrible. That's why I say everyone needs to be drug tested. Where's this see your drug screen, Cade? I mean, Sam and and whoever whoever's around like even even k-fed you're getting this 40 000 a month and the kids getting any money putting a trust or he's taking care of them instead of like we're talking about britney doing meth let's see your piss you know and i heard his wife's got a huge gambling problem and they're like 40 racks a month what's crazy about that

is when he released that footage trying to make britney look bad like that was britney being a mom oh yeah you should hear how i talked to bailey shows character and it shows how of a douchebag he is yeah i heard they're moving to hawaii to try to continue the yeah because i mean the child support for another like six years or something because it's 23 in in hawaii versus 18 wow so yeah it's and there's some stipulations that go with that i heard i'm sure they had to have signed something signed something iron clad whenever they had those babies yeah exactly well he he yeah he he's a he's a dirtbag so he made sure he got britney is crazy he looks like a vacuum salesman yeah did you ever see her what was that chaotic or whatever did you see the one where he was at mcdonald's like really like yeah like

why like he was cute back in the day but now he didn't age well he let himself go and you know all that child support he's collecting he's like fuck it what do i gotta who do i have to impress anymore i feel really bad for the kids you know what i'm saying yeah absolutely i didn't want to talk about her kids you know because it's just it's already such a touchy subject but at the same time it's like they're the those little boys don't know what's going on. They're being controlled, too. Yeah, they're being used. Yeah, they're the ones that are being, you know, hurt the most.

Absolutely. And you can tell all Brittany's ever wanted was to be a mom to them. Yeah, it shouldn't. And that, yeah, I think she should be talking to them and seeing them. No one should be getting in the middle of that. I don't like that. I don't care what a person's going through. Just like me.

I don't care what you think. I want and am willing to be a father. I should be able to see my son. Babies need their parents, mother and father. Whether you guys get along personally or not, those babies need to feel each parent's energy in order to grow up to be the best humans that they can be and i don't know why the court isn't involved more in that area trying

to you know patch that up also like make stipulations where they you know well everybody's getting paid off yeah exactly so that's that's really well let's play a newlywed game let's see how well you newlyweds know each other i didn't pick that because you know hayley told me that you guys were super spiritual so i didn't pick raunchy questions oh that's cool i appreciate that but we're not really like i just want to be respectful we're not we're not condemning or judgmental and like you heard us talk so it's like no i get it i just i wanted to be respectful. That's cool. It's fun. Yeah. My husband's calling.

Should I FaceTime him? Yes. Let's see. You guys can say hi to him. I couldn't think of anything. If he'll answer, he... What is that? Hi, baby.

Hi, baby. Jelly. What up, y'all? What's up? What up? Hey, my name's Jason too. Let's smoke a joint, man. I know. Hi, baby.

I'm finishing up the pod right now, so I'll call you whenever I get done. Okay. I love you so much that's so awesome yeah he always does stuff like wow yeah he's he's amazing he does so much stuff that doesn't get media you know no they don't want that's why when people come for him i'm like oh my husband's nice but i'm not i'm always defending him that's right all right let's see okay so did you guys figure out what the prize is gonna be did we figure it out we were just i was trying to think of it because it's like he already makes me coffee every morning and cooks me breakfast every morning and everything gosh do you ladies hear this he's's not. My husband, honey, if you're listening to this, which I doubt you are.

I think my husband's cooked me breakfast never. Oh, wait, no. Maybe one time in seven years. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm trying. All right, what do you want? What do you want? I just told her to back rubs for a week.

He wants blowjobs for a week. I'll just say it for him. Okay, let's make it more fun. Blowjobs for a week. And then what do you want? What you want anything in the world not not breakfast not coffee could be anything doesn't have to be monetary we can go instead of three times a day let's go four times oh there we go all right that sounds good mean, everybody's a fucking winner all around. That's right. Can I come? No, I'm just kidding.

All right, let's see. The rule is when you guys are going to write your own answers on the paper, so kind of turn them away so you guys can't see each other. Yeah, you guys can't see each other's answers. Yep. She's going to say the question. And then when you're done, put it upside down so you can't see it, and then we'll go to the next one, and then we'll read them all together,

and you guys will lift them at the same time. Sorry, I forgot to tell you guys the rules. I just assumed everybody knows how to play fucking newlyweds. Yeah, well, I don't know, but she always beats me at chess, too. Chess? She got a smart chick over there. And I was like a third-grade chess champion.

Look at you. I was like, it's so random. Dude, that's amazing. I beat her a couple of times, but she always wins. That's amazing. I've beat her a couple of times, but she always wins. That's amazing. All right. Who would you cast to play your spouse in a movie? I don't even know Hollywood like that.

Just whoever. Does it be anybody? It could be anybody. Oh, Lord. I say God. All right. I'll just say this. Just because it's funny. All right, and then turn it upside down.

I might have spelled it wrong. No peeking. Wait, and I have to guess what he thought. So yeah, all these questions are what you think each other would say. I know, I don't know. I'm, like, trying to think of girl actresses. Fuck. You guys ready for the next one? Okay, yeah.

All right, what is your spouse's most irritating habit? I love his giggle. Oh, my God. He's over there just grinning. That one was easy for me. You're okay. We'll figure it out whenever we, whenever we're, it's kind of confusing. I got confused for a second too.

Who will your partner say led a more wild life before you got together? That one's definitely me. life before you got together? That one's definitely me. What is your spouse's most prized possession? That's hilarious. I'm paying you to put this in. You guys both ready?

What is your favorite part of your spouse's body? He said, hmm. I got to do it, I guess. Typical guy. Tits and ass. Bingo. That's hilarious.

Who is your spouse's celebrity crush? Bingo. That's hilarious. Who is your spouse's celebrity crush? All right. Celebrity crush. Do I have one of those? What, hers is? Would you rather have the lights on or the lights off? Oh. You're answering for her, though.

Yeah. If I were to bring food into the bedroom for foreplay, what food would I bring? I said I wasn't going to do dirty questions. Yeah. I found ones that weren't too explicit, though. You can have it. I can have it.

What is your partner's bedroom fantasy? She's really thinking about these. I can see her answer. I'm actually still. I love your answer. Oh, my God. Now I got to go back and remember what questions I asked. Shitballs.

Fuck, I'm the worst game show host ever I am the worst game show host ever okay so we'll start we'll start with the ones you just did so that I can go back and find the other ones okay all right so Jason what is what is uh Rebecca's bedroom? What do you think it is? Where are we pointing at? That camera? Yeah. Yeah. I said all day sex. I don't know. What would it be, Rebecca?

I should have asked you first, damn it. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. I would say, yeah. Basically just taking over me. Dominating. Being dominated? Yeah. Okay. So does that pass, though, for all day sex? basically just taking just taking over me dominating being dominated yeah okay so does that pass though for all day sex yeah we gotta answer first and then yeah i fucked this up listen

you guys i'm the worst fucking game host ever all right what's your fantasy jason we'll give it we'll give it to you since i fucked that up what is your uh fantasy and then she's gonna pull her paper up and tell us we we like fan our fan our sex is fantasy every time so i don't really have one i guess it would be like um um after like making a million-dollar sex? I don't know. Green sex.

Green sex. No. No green sex. What did you say, Rebecca? Oh, I just said, like, dominate me entirely. I said all day sex. Okay, so we'll start with you, Rebecca. If you were to bring food into the bedroom for some foreplay,

what would you want him to bring? What do you think he would say you would bring? Like ice cream or something? Totally. What would you say? I said whipped cream or fruit. Aw. Okay, so it's one and one right now.

All right, and then what would you bring in as food jason um that's what i would bring yeah whipped cream and fruit what did you say what i would do you guys wrote down what each other would do all right it's still one and one i love that you remember thank you for being the best game show host ever, Jason. Yeah, I put on, obviously. Well, what would you do, Rebecca? Would you put them on or off? On.

Okay, yay. You got that? Okay, so it's two and one. And then what would you do, Jason? On, for sure. On, and what'd you say? Yeah, no lights off, ever. On.

Yay. Yeah, 100%. All right, so that's, are you keeping score? Okay, because I am lost. Oh, and then this one was a celebrity crush i think okay who is who do you think is her celebrity crush i just i wrote me just because i you gotta let her answer okay and then who do you think is his celebrity crush tell me before who's your celebrity crush jason before she answers us um i really don't have one my celebrity crush was orlando bloom was it sorry that's they kind of look like or good. They kind of look like. I like Orlando Bloom. Yeah, they kind of look like. Yeah. Or Brad Pitt.

So you don't have one? Is that your final answer? Yeah, I don't have one. Okay. Britney. Oh! I guess I thought about that, but yeah. The obvious one. What do you think is his favorite body part on you?

My boobies. And what'd you say, Jason tits and ass yay so he got that one that's sweet though he let he put in eyes he included eyes with tits and ass that's very sweet um what do you think she thinks your favorite body part is or her favorite body part on you or whatever you guys know what the fuck i'm saying this is why i host podcasts not games i think it's the wiener schnitzel honestly right i mean she my dick what'd you put abs my ass butt dick both won that one all right do we know what the next one is i don't know what i'm trying i can't remember what it was best thing about the partner about being with best thing about being with each other maybe

okay we'll just run with it i don't know i wrote six though okay all right they both won that. They both had the same answer. All right. What do you think this one is? Oh, this one's a, what is most important to your spouse? Okay. Most what's what?

Okay. So let's start with you. What do you think she's going to say is most important to you? Um, she's going to write it down right now. I, i wrote for her but for me what i think she's gonna write um just uh like healthy lifestyle like being like fitness i don't know i don't know why i wrote this is so weird keys keys because it was like wasn't it like what's your most prized possession oh okay

most and i was thinking our jeep like just the jeep and just like that's funny you guys all you guys both won how about that i'll put her face oh i love that wow that's so nice that is sweet all right well since i fucked that question up you guys both get that one sorry guys at home listen i am not a game show host. All right, next question. What do we think is the next question? What is the word? What do your pet pee about?

What irritates you the most about your spouse? Okay, what about you, Rebecca? Oh, when he does his thing, like. When he sucks his teeth? Oh, my teeth, yeah. So what did you write, Jason? I wrote, she asked a million questions and then what did you write rebecca she's like let me guess i don't know wait that's what i wrote with like the yeah because we were writing what we thought your

teeth yeah exactly so i wrote she asked my pet peeve about her she asked me so many questions sometimes it bothers me but that's what I think that's a girl thing yeah but it's I think that all girls do that yeah it's not it's not bad though I'm gonna kill you

and then can we guess what the last question was because I am the I suck over here oh who was who would play the person okay okay who would play your spouse in a movie yeah what do you think he said who would play the person okay okay who would play your spouse in a movie yeah

who what do you think he said who would play you rebecca i don't even know i would i mean i can't even i'm sorry i i just wrote somebody funny because who'd you write jessica alba i was gonna say that jessica alba's hot I was gonna say she's hot I was like plus it's JT's wife ain't it right

no that's no that's Jessica Biel either way I gotta get it who do you think she wrote would play you I don't know Brad Pitt

yeah is that what she said yeah oh he got it yay alright you guys that was the worst game of newly whatever because i don't know what i'm doing over here but who won it was fun you guys got a tie

so now you get to get you get blowjobs for a week and she gets laid four times a day i mean that's a it's a winning winning situation gotta get to work i love that you guys are so sweet thank you guys for coming on the podcast it was a blast i really appreciate you guys do you guys want to shout out where people can find you is there anything you want to plug socials all that jazz i mean my instagram is is just jason allen alexander you could find this easy but that's the best way to find me i guess yeah what about you rebecca you want to plug anything no she's like nope everybody leave me alone maybe soon but right now it's just uh well when you guys have anything you want to plug you're more than welcome to come back on the

podcast anytime i would love to have you guys yeah that's cool yeah thank you guys so much and thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of dumb blonde i will see you guys next week bye