Dumb Blonde - Jeffree Star: The Internet OG

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Y'all might not be ready for this one. The iconic Jeffree Star drops in this week to talk his truth on everything from the state of social media, how he built an iconic brand from nothing, what really happened to the beauty influencer community, and why he fled from LA to a yak ranch in Wyoming. He talks about what's next in his world domination, from embracing the new generation of TikTok to opening a store that sells makeup and meat. Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comJeffree Star: Website | TikTok | IG See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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is this thing on bonnie who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast dumb blonde most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit and i was like i want to be super hot make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's that was my goal as a child and here we are what's up you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another podcast today i have the enigma the social media enigma the queen of queens hi jeffree star baby thank you for having me dude this has been a long time coming it really has i'm so happy you're here thank you for having me who the fuck would have known that montana would bring us together i know so we're literally in bozeman montana we're backstage in a locker room we are we're in a

locker room the glory holes are behind me and we are meeting for the first time today we've been talking all year yes and life finally brought us together so thank you for having me and it's crazy because we did have a mutual friend who just passed away, Daniel, and he fucking loved you so much, dude. He told me- It's crazy that you met him and I like, and hung out with him for so long and I never met you. That's crazy to me. I never got to meet Daniel.

What? We were literally online friends for like 10 years. Oh my God, I thought you guys partied in Vegas back in the day as well. Nope, nope, nope. Just what we grew up around the same circle. He had the same friends I did. like we never got to actually meet but we literally talked all the time online like it was crazy i just loved that i loved him dude he was just such a good soul yeah honestly so i

just feel like this was like daniel's doing possibly like pushing us together that's beautiful i have seen so many podcasts of you and I feel like. Did you notice how I was like silent for a long time and then I just, it was like, you know what? It's time to talk. What brought that on? I think during 2020 and like during the pandemic, like I had such a crazy trajectory and then the pandemic and so much online

drama like exploded. Yeah. So I moved to Wyoming. I went to therapy. I really worked on myself and i was like you know what i want to share that journey not just all the dramatic chaotic you know shit and just makeup stuff only i wanted to share how i healed i love that let people see like who i am now you know so i started doing podcasts is amazing and thank you and a lot of males fixate um on sex every time i'm on their

podcast we all know i'm never gonna fully kiss and tell i love that about you because i'm the same way i was a hooker in vegas period so i'm never gonna kiss and tell the celebrities that fucking what do you get when you put two escorts together jeffrey and bunny so a lot of people don't know that i used to be the queen of Craigslist in LA yes I used to make so much money during the MySpace era

oh yeah for sure and then so when you say queen of Craigslist you mean like putting like ads on there and stuff or like

to do yep and I recently found some old ads in my old account I love that because I am writing an autobiography finally

that's brave because Craigslist and Backpage man you literally like oh I miss Backpage you were literally risking your life to be on those i did eros i was an eros girl okay so i literally would post my ads and then you know screen them and then sometimes i would work for the services in vegas and stuff like that but and networking we're in big cities so it's like people think like they think we're like at the street corner with no teeth

with a thumb out. There's levels to this shit. Levels. I try to explain that to people all the time. Nobody gets it. And then you start networking and meeting people. So I'm this broke kid. I moved out at 17.

I was like, fuck you to my mother. Let's rewind that. Let's rewind it. Then we'll get to the head and the bottoming. So I want to rewind it back because you remind me so much of myself we have been through a lot of shit we mask it with dirty jokes and humor and humor very dark humor and you know going through the stuff that you've gone through i don't i'm pretty sure you know half of my following probably does know your story but i'm sure the other half doesn't.

And I think that that really is an epic part of your journey because it's showing overcoming. Yes. So we're survivors. Yeah, exactly. Yes, for sure. So growing up, you grew up in Orange County, California. So I'm from Huntington Beach, 714. And it was really boring growing up. Like it was just everyone was like surfing and skating. And I just never really felt like I fit in. I was very punk rock. I had I was the first person to have like pink hair dye at my school. And I just tried to break all the barriers without really knowing it. I was just like, well, I'm going to be me and I'm going to be myself. And for some reason, I got over the part where you care what other people think.

At an early age. At an early age. I think because my childhood was so chaotic. My parents were drunk my whole life. And so people don't know this. Well, some people do, but I've never tried alcohol. And I think people sometimes have a hard time believing that. Because, you know, we always used to post pictures with stuff.

So there's photos of me with like a whiskey bottle. I'm like, yeah, it's all for show. Sponsorships too. it's literally all for show so you know people always dig things out of the ashes but i've never tried alcohol i never will um my dad died when i was five so he drank himself to death he killed himself and he was just really miserable and did he commit suicide or did he die from cirrhosis? It's like a tricky line. Right. But suicide. Right.

Yeah. So he was like on the brink and was like, okay, I'm finally done. So the last time I remember seeing him, his skin was yellow. His eyebrows were falling out. He looked horrific and he grabbed me by the arm and I was five and a half. And he was like, please don't ever drink. Like it's ruined our family. And that was my last memory of my dad. That was his blessing to you.

Yeah. It was wild. Yeah. So that was my last memory of my dad. That was his blessing to you. Yeah. It was wild. Yeah. So my mom spiraled and obviously got worse. Right. So she would drink, recycle the beer cans to get more alcohol and just had a string of really annoying boyfriends. No one ever like abusive or crazy, but just always fighting. She never fell in love again.

She was literally in love with my dad and it didn't work out because he couldn't stop drinking. That was what ruined the marriage. What, when you're five years old and your father passes away, how are you feeling? Like, do you remember any of it? I do. I remember my mom telling me like a week or two after I saw him, she took me to the same park and she goes, Hey, like she tried to explain to me, like my dad died. And she always likes to say this. I literally like blinked, immediately put all the trauma away and was like, okay, can

we get some more ice cream? So you knew just growing up in chaos that it was better to just push it down instead of react. Yes. It had, which was horrible for me later when all the like emotions and traumas and demons were coming out and i'm in high school my whole body's the cutting board yeah i'm like fully and like i see you know secret one not like i want attention like you know it's i feel like back in the day mental health was not talked about talked about it like how it is yeah

and in cookie cutter orange county no one was talking about feelings. Right. It's like, get the fuck over it. You know, everyone's, all the husbands are cheating on the wives. All the, you know, everyone's getting beat. All these crazy things are happening and it's just swept under the rug. And it's like the row housewives of Orange County. Absolutely.

Yeah, no, it really is. The West Coast is a different beast. People don't understand that unless you've grown up on the West Coast. It's a completely different way of thinking and way of living. As like, you know, fucking Montana or fucking Wyoming. So I didn't untrain this behavior up on the west coast it's completely different way of thinking and way of living as like you know fucking montana or yes fucking wyoming so i didn't untrain this behavior until probably like

six years ago when you were cutting was that your way of just kind of like relieving the pain and did i it was like no she didn't know for years and then i slipped up and got comfortable and she saw it for the first time was it on your arms is that why it was everywhere but I would wear like heavy clothes all the time it would be 90 degrees but I was gothic and my style was very punk rock so no one ever questioned it yeah you know it would be like I would I had photography class and I would go in the dark room and cut my legs and then come back out and no one ever knew like crazy stuff like that you're just hurting so bad yeah so I felt like it helped me feel a little bit because I felt so numb and like dead inside but I never wanted to kill myself right I never had thoughts well because your dad passed away that way so possibly that was like so I never had the

thoughts of like I want to end my life but I was doing it to just feel something. Right. I understand that. And then it became like an addiction. Well, you get addicted to the pain because it's the only time that you actually. It was really fucked up as I was also addicted to the watching it heal. Wow. It was like. That's deep.

Yeah. Hi, nice to meet you. Don't start joking. No, yeah. It was really like, yeah, it was that serious. That's so much trauma to go through at such a young age. When did you start cutting? I would say like ninth grade. And then I stopped when I graduated high school and I broke away.

But my mom did catch me. So we're in this little apartment and she always made me do chores. Single mother, only child. And I'm a Scorpio. It's a lot there. I think you might have a lot of Capricorn. It's a lot there. Cap and Sag.

I want to do your birth chart. Have you done your birth chart? What is it? It's stunning. I'll show you later. He's like, I'm not showing anybody online. It's stunning. So she caught me when I was doing the dishes.

She always made me do chores and clean the bathroom and have manners and la la la. And I was a straight A student. She said, you can look however you want, do whatever you want, dye your hair pink, red, black, do extensions. I shaved off my eyebrows in 10th grade. No one was doing that. At all? It was like horror and shock. Right.

Like a pioneer of sorts. It was crazy. And she caught me one day when I was doing the dishes and I wasn't wearing long sleeves and she came home from work early. And when you've been doing it for so long. So she caught me and she saw the side of the arm. I'll never forget it. What did she say?

I mean, you know, most parents don't fully know how to articulate it because they immediately go to he wants to die. And it's like, you know, and she is a fucking train wreck. So you are bitch. You're my mom. Trust me. I get it train wreck. So you are bitch. You're my mom. Trust me, I get it. Yeah. So it was rough and we never gelled.

So I'm 17 and a half. I graduate high school early. I'm out. I'm going to L.A. And by then I had been going to a lot of shows. I was 17 with the fake ID going to the Key Club, the whiskey on. So I had to say to you, I was at the Rio and fucking pinkies and all that shit.

And I would wear so much makeup. No one really knew how old I, like they couldn't tell if I was 16 or 30, you know? Let's dial it back real quick before you left home because wasn't one of your first sexual experiences at 12? Yeah. I mean, how do you even know to have sex at 12? Oh my God.

I don't know. It just naturally happened. And I think boys are really curious, but men don't like to talk about this stuff. Right. So when you're in like ninth, this is eighth grade for me. Right. So let's dial it back to eighth grade. Right.

Me and this guy, Jeff, and the football team and a foreign exchange student. Not another Jeff. Yeah. So the first guy I ever blew had the same name as me. Wow. Life. So you were already I ever blew had the same name as me. Wow. Life. So you were already feeling that you were into boys

at a young age. Yeah, so eighth grade was the first experience. Fifth grade was when I was like, oh, like, okay, girls are attractive, but I'm more attracted to men. Gotcha.

And yes, I've slept with both. I love everyone, but I prefer men. Yeah. But I love everyone. I loved boys in makeup. Boy George was my first crush. Hate it.

Love Boy George, but I am not attracted to men in makeup. Really? I don't like femininity. Wow. I like a fucking man. I love that. So if someone looked like me,

it's the biggest turnoff. Right. Well, yeah. I wouldn't want to fuck somebody who looked like me either, so I get it. You know what I mean? But I'm not into glam boys i'm not into femininity but i love a bad like you're hot i love you but i don't want a guy in makeup right no i totally but you know what

my dad was a musician and he had long black hair and he played in the band and he had you know so i've always been attracted to the the emo boys you know the chris motionless and the yeah he was just in wyoming yeah like that so oh i know i can't we're talking about that later we can't we'll have to bleep his name out no eyeliner yeah like nice body tattoos whatever like sports guys right or no nowadays but in the war tour days it was like country boys and like scene boys the myspace you know yeah oh my god so many flashbacks i'm in heat we're in eighth grade i'm ready to swallow fifth okay fifth grade you were already attracted to boys and then eighth grade and i already looked different where in fifth grade was the first time I was called a

gay lord and a faggot oh yeah really oh absolutely it was it was this era of 90s where like the guys wanted to be like gangster and wear baggy flannel and these huge tommy hill figure all I dated was gangsters and I was more like little button up boy scout like tight cut military haircut because my grand my grandparents raised me while my mom was getting sober right so she got sober when i was in high school finally oh good thank god and she's been sober since yay mom congratulations to her 23 years let's go let's fucking go but yeah it was so 12 years old you and jeff hook up and it turned into a threesome right yeah so my first like real experience with a guy was with two guys okay gotcha and while i've been writing my book

i've been told by the guy that's writing with me which by the way i love neil strauss he's a genius don't fuck around like he loved him so he definitely let me analyze myself very deeply with this and he's like everything you do without you knowing it is extreme. And I was like, huh. And that hit me hard in a good way. But it's just like everything I do, like, oh, I bought some land. Now it's the biggest yak ranch in America. And I'm in seven restaurants.

I can't just like let things be. Right. Well, you came from nothing. And I'm literally I'm a money hoarder. Literally, I have so much shit around. Like, it's crazy. Once you when you come from nothing yes you want everything when that's turned turned dirt into diamonds literally and you're never happy like that it's once you reach one goal it's the next goal it's the next goal yes

school okay good you understand yeah no totally I have a lot of Capricorn in me though too so I'm like I never give up I'm literally just always going um so moving on after your first threesome take me on that journey you're 17 you've are leaving home you're going I literally got a u-haul on my and I always had older friends of course I hate I hated immature little kids um so someone I was the same way that's it so they rented me a u-haul we pulled up I said bye mom like i'm i'm out and i should just let you go yeah yeah i mean what was she gonna do right but it was good it was really good but i had to grow up quick right so especially on the streets of hollywood yes so my birthday is in november so then i turn school's over in in june july so i'm doing like little freelance

makeup jobs barely making it by and i'm sleeping on someone's couch she works at mac makeup she's like you're 18 now like you need to work at mac your your makeup's so fierce like hello and she was way older than me so she got me the in and obviously i sold myself my first job so my first job ever was at mac cosmetics and now i'm their competitor yeah literally you went in there took all their tips and tricks i'm a mac alumni i have i have ruby woo lipstick tattooed on my arm i'm a mac alumni forever like and i still wear their powder i love it i could totally picture you being at mac too yeah highest seller i bet but then it already

started everyone already you know the jealousy the craz craziness. Then I learned the industry was really catty. It wasn't about the artistry. It was all very competitive. And L.A. was like very cutthroat. And back then there wasn't a million makeup artists like there is now. Right. There was no technology, no phone. No one could even process that.

Right. We barely just started having phones, right? Right. I had beepers and shit. Yeah. I had a little Nokia. When I look down, I'm looking at my list of notes that i have so and what were you saying um you were talking about mac hybrid and indica squirrel um you were talking about mac baby and

everybody's being a hater we were freelancing we were going to different locations and i was always had the top sales. It was really fun. And as you meet people in the stores, customers, you start networking. So from day one, my online journey, and by the way, I was already online at this point. Right. I was already on these websites that people don't even know exist, like hot or not.com.

Dude, I loved hot or not. And Live Journal and all these things that people don't even know existed. No, that was our childhood. Yes. Literally. So i would meet people is anyone up.com is anyone up oh jesus oh my god yes and all of a sudden i'm getting clients outside of the store right and i'm doing makeup for music videos lo-fi z-list movies that no one's ever heard of and then i meet this girl and I start working for Hustler. I started doing makeup for porn.

Wow. At 19. So I just started networking and just making as much money as I could. But for the lifestyle I knew I was meant for, it wasn't enough. Right. So that's when someone introduced me.

Of course I did some girl's makeup. She was about to go turn a trick, didn't know it. And she's like, like oh baby the guys would love you yeah i'll never forget her saying that line and i was like what do you mean and she's like this and this and i was like i can't like i didn't even fully understand a lot of men have fantasies la la la so i'm ignorant bitch she sold me out in a good way she turned you out yeah yeah she got her 10 percent we love that oh my god so i started the journey of hustling and doing sex work which i haven't really talked about much i think it's important but it is i'm so i'm never ashamed ever i feel like people think that

we should be ashamed for what we had to do to survive and i'm never gonna apologize even though i'm at this stage in my life, I sometimes still wish I could do it. It was so, listen, it was so, it was a different time where like, if you wanted to wake up and make X amount of dollars, you could. That was it. Five guys in one day, let's go.

That or even a sugar daddy. Have a sugar daddy who just fucking gave you. I had a few of them. I even had ones online that I never met. Yeah. So people were like, okay, you're on MySpace. How did you, people would send me high powered cameras. I didn't know that existed. And I would teach myself everything. So I was one of the first people to do a vlog. Me and Paris Hilton were

the first ones to ever make money off of being a social media star. So I coined internet, an internet celebrity. Absolutely. I remember the first time I saw you was MySpace. It was you, Forbidden. Oh my God. Rest in peace. I know. How sad. And Tila Tequila. Tila Tequila?

Where the fuck is she? And I'm the last one standing, bitch. And normal somewhat. That's it. Oh my God. You haven't lost your mind. Miss Tequila's crazy. I know.

What happened? Forbidden could never escape not being a star anymore. And God bless her addiction addiction alcohol yeah that's literally like in orange county's culture i hate it no it's so sad because she was such a beautiful woman but teela i don't know what the fuck happened i think she had an aneurysm and just never got right after that right isn't i have no idea but the stuff that she's the illuminati but i'm not sure no we're not claiming her yeah no no. We don't know who that is. She wanted to be a part of the club. Right.

No, thank you. Oh, I don't think she made enough money, right? No. Don't you have to have like a certain amount of money to get into the Illuminati? I'm not sure. I plead the fifth. Everybody thinks my husband and I are in the Illuminati. And I'm like, I'm glad you guys think we have that much money.

Like, it's not what it is. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. Life's very interesting. Yeah, definitely. So I moved to Wyoming and I escaped a lot of things. Right. So let's dial back though.

You had started doing sex work. And how long did you do sex work for? Did you use that as like a means to an end while you were doing social media? Yeah. Okay. Exactly. Okay. And then like the Warped Tour days really took off

and I started doing music. Yes. I loved Beauty Killer. So people forget, thank you, oh my God, that I was obviously a working makeup artist. Yeah. And then MySpace and social media really exploded for me. Yeah.

And I started to all of a sudden have like merchandise and I'm number one in Hot Topics. So I stopped obviously doing makeup on others. Right. People would hire me back in the day like, oh, will you do my wedding? Or like, come to my daughter's birthday party. Like those days were very fun.

Right. But then I started doing music. That's where you started, yeah. Yeah. And I did music as a joke. I rapped on this Hollywood Undead song a very long time ago. We love Hollywood. My husband just did a feature with them.

Oh, that's awesome. They're still around. Yeah. And still kicking ass. That's it. Like love them. And the first album, I was supposed to be on it it and then there was drama and they took me off, but the song was already online for free called turn off the lights. Right. And it was massive. I even

rerecorded it. Interscope records and whoever at the time took me off, but the song was already massive online. Wow. And it was just very interesting. Isn't it crazy how record labels work? Like they're just, they're shady as not all but most not all but pretty much most of them are they're just so shady um i feel like hollywood undead always had some sort of drama going on they were they were fighting each other i know it was awful sorry guys i don't mean to talk but i'm just saying no it was just back in the day yeah like they were i wish they could have worked it out. Yeah, for sure. But let's talk about your music career.

I mean, you had like Nicki Minaj as a feature. Isn't that cool? Dude, so cool. I worked with a lot of really cool people. Yeah. I did music, I always say like as a joke, but I actually really enjoyed it. When I did the first rap verse,

I freestyled it and wrote it down in 10 minutes. It was very, very crass. And I was like, I want it. You just wanted freestyling right now before the camera started rolling. I even put forbidden in my first verse. The first. Yeah, ever. It was. Yeah, it was. That's so funny. The little last line is I watched me. Forbidden's that pussy. No, that's so fucked.

But so good. And she loved it, by the way. I bet. But it's just like and it was it was crazy. It was vicious. And I was like, I want to be like the obscene like white little kim right and that was my shtick and i penned some wild ass shit it was actually really good i loved what is the song um plastic slumber party plastic surgery slumber party love that was one of my favorite songs and that was very like lo-fi fun electro myspace music like depeche mode you had to be like techno yeah it was really cool yeah you had to have been there it's the best way to describe it and for some reason because of myspace and i was already popular for being me and my character you know who this character right it

just got big why don't you pursue music anymore though because you're so good at it and it seems like it's a passion i've been asked this for every time i do an interview really and we have definitely been dabbling for fun dude my husband will help you it's really i love it but listen i you never know there may be a little comeback yeah do it please i think tikt TikTok needs a Jeffree Star track. It will go fucking H-ing. I even have a new song on my phone. Can we get a little snippet? Later on the bus. Okay.

I'm like, can we get an exclusive? So I have been doing it for fun. But you're so good at it. Like, I think that's something that you need to do. And it's also a creative outlet for you. It's really cool. Yeah. And now that I'm living this Wyoming life and I'm older and my voice is less faggoty i can say that number one faggot right here

um my voice is deeper right and i really like my voice and someone came over the other day and we did i'm not even kidding you're gonna die beauty killer acoustic what no yeah yeah and they're like would you ever perform this And I'm kid that grew up with us needs that dude. You have no idea. So when I opened up my retail store, we're jumping 30 years ahead. Yeah. I just,

we're just all over my opening. I had yellow wolf perform. Yeah. We love you. We broke the record of biggest event ever in Casper for downtown. It beat even the eclipse from 2018. Yay. And we've never been on the moon,

but anyway, um, that's for, that's for the next 10 minutes. It was epic. I love that. So I was like, you know what, everyone's you should go perform a song. And I was like, oh, hell no. But then actually kind of inspired me. Good. I'm proud of you. So you never know what could happen. You need to do that. Do stuff that makes your, sets your soul on fire. Yes. You know, I feel like you've done so much shit now for not just you, but for everybody else. And to maybe prove points because from all the trauma that we have come from, we're always proving a point.

We are. And I feel like. Thank God she knows that. I feel like music for you is therapeutic. It is actually. And I also feel like it's something that you enjoy. It is. As much as like your yaks and shit.

I think because the makeup brand took off so big. Yeah. I was like, and I really became engrossed. Yeah. brand took off so big yeah i was like and i really became engrossed yeah i went from living in a one bedroom apartment with a thousand dollars to like i want to be a ceo of my own company and i had to literally teach myself everything but i mean you did it and look what happened so you're in let me let me so when we left i just started music you had just started music when you decided to stop music and then when did you start getting into makeup oh that's a good

was that like coincided with each other it was also the music was literally like a 10 year journey right and i was always independent until the end you were touring and everything right oh yeah you're hopping on the tour bus it was wild we had tour buses i was performing and there was no like real label behind me i had an independent deal through Warner, which means I had no support. And like a distribution. Yeah, it was literally a distribution deal. That was it. And it was sick.

And we had, you know, we had a cute little number one dance album and la la la. But I never got the success that I wanted. Right. I wanted to be like number one. And then there's other people in the industry coming up at the same time. And they chose evil deals, Kesha, Lady Gaga, and they even stole from my shirak oh baby and i'm not blaming them i'm blaming their stylists and their team they would go out and they would steal gaga for sure girl yeah like that's your that's your whole it was crazy back in the day yeah i would go and i and i saw

their first show once and people weren't doing ceases she's throwing up pink on the on the screen right before she goes on stage like your serial shot right girl the cover of plastic surgery slumber party i'm puking pink yeah oh yeah yeah you have i go to this woman's show she's throwing up pink on the jumbotron for her first big tour. And there's nothing you can do. Devastated crying. 15 years later, I'm reviewing her concealer. We're cool. I love that.

Lady Gaga, I love you. But it was her team. And later down the road, when I became signed to similar folks, they all had stories. And it was really dark. And it's none of it was her fault. When you're that big, you have such a team behind you and you're just going. And no say so.

Like literally. Yeah. Right. We never know. But a lot of them chose horrible deals. You know, people call it selling their soul. I've always kept my soul. Yeah.

And I've been offered a lot. I'm looking you in your eyes. You seem to have a soul still. Yeah. Ding, ding, ding. It all cracks. He turns into a reptilian right now. Oh my God. They wanted me to go full rept still. I'm still here. Yeah. It all cracks. He turns into a reptilian right now. They wanted me to go full reptile. I didn't want to. Really? Yeah. How does that even work? How does

somebody come to you and say hey I want you to be a reptilian? They see the potential that you can do to shift the culture. Right. And I chose to shift it myself. So people actually will come to you and say hey I want you to be a reptilian. What does that entail? It's more like, will you, it's basically like selling your soul. It's such a tricky, such a tricky thing to say. Like Ursula and the Little Mermaid, like sign on the dotted line. You have to give more than that. Really? Yeah.

Like a firstborn or like your left nut or something. Listen, if you want that tour bus to not have the brakes go out tonight. No, I'm just kidding. No one can hear us. No one knows we're talking about this. No, we're good. It's a tricky slope because the industry is really dark. Right.

And there's a lot of people that will do. I feel like there's such a dark side and there's also a light side. It just depends on which lane you want to go. There is. But thankfully, because of social media and people having the guts, a lot of things are now infiltrated. Right. Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, all these things are coming out.

Right. And it's like, thank God. so hollywood is so scared yeah oh i bet there's no new artists they're all pushing the stupid satanic demon shit it's also like fucking what's her name doja cat right now it's getting weird it's just getting boring it's getting uncomfortable to the point right is what it is yeah it's just getting uncomfortable to the point of just like who are what are you trying to prove we get it you know like Yeah, it's just getting uncomfortable to the point of just like, who are, what are you trying to prove? We get it. You know, like you're. It's to make them feed into it like they really are.

I know. It's so boring. I listened to the new song for the first time on the plane right here. And I'm just like, this is it, huh? Yeah. You're like, that's it. The second verse is kind of cute, but it's like, I just bought a limousine. And I'm just like my iq is dropping

right now it's just it's not great she's losing her first album i even like paint the town right i think it's cute it has a great beat obviously these producers know what they're doing they create a beat that you're going to be hooked on and you can sing it in your head it's all a game yeah for sure so i never played the game with these top producers i never i saw how dark the industry was. And it was like. Could go here or this way. So I fired everyone.

I said goodbye to Akon. I said goodbye to convict music. Which you were assigned to Akon. Yeah. Whenever you were doing your music. So my last few songs. It has the iconic clink convict. Do you know how cool that was?

That very first time I got to put a track out with his fucking intro. It was like. I made it. It was insane. Yeah. Prom night. The crazy scene. Yeah. Where a little kids shooting up everyone at the end. Yep. Such a forward thinker.

You really are so fucked. You have always been. No, for sure. For sure. You have always been ahead of your time. Baby Columbine had just happened. I'm like, we're going to tap into this because I also was getting death threats every day.

It was different times. I would walk out the streets looking like this faggy i was called the craziest names nowadays people don't talk like that right it's all behind the keyboards fucking canceled that's it you know what i mean yeah fucking trolls and shit but back in the day it was just so different 2014 you're already doing myspace 2014 is when i started the brand right so i was gonna say your myspace was after music or before before and during okay gotcha and then remember myspace tanked finally started having its run facebook's here instagram's here all these new things are happening the population's changing the last generation's now and you know just everything's evolving so it was a very hard time for me i let go of the music world right i knew i was never going to be number one single and and performing in front of 20 000 in my head

not knowing what was going to come later right and i gave it all up and that was like the only moment where i almost felt like giving up. Not like full suicide, but it was like, I was like very hopeless. Right. And I was sitting in this apartment that I did the documentary on, right? Me and Shane Dawson. We even went back to the old apartment. It was so fucked.

Right. And it was just a moment of like, we're going this way or this way. So then I just started using the internet, which is is free you don't need to go to college and i taught myself how to make a product how to build a brand and i just taught myself everything from the ground up and there was a makeup i mean i'm in la there's makeup labs everywhere people want to work with me but it's at a really weird stage so as i quit i start i went back to the Warped Tour crowd. I started selling merchandise and doing meet and greets with no music anymore. Here's a sick merch line. Come meet me. Because I was broke.

The tenacity, though. I was fucking broke. Most people don't have the tenacity that you do to do that, to go and teach themselves things and to just keep fucking hustling. That's something that you can't fucking teach people. You should be proud of yourself for that. Thank you. Survivor mentality.

It was like, it was do or die. Yeah. So I'm on Warped Tour 2013, testing out my first ever lipstick formulas in the heat. It was awesome. Oh, and I'm concocting my plan and thinking about what I'm going to do.

And I'm like, okay, I want to put out three liquid lipsticks. There's only like three brands on the market at the time. Kylie wasn't around then. Nope. Her lips were still normal. Yeah.

And mine weren't. We got into plastic surgery at a young age because that's where, that's how we grew up. That's how the West Coast is. Exactly. Yeah. So I'm on this tour bus. We're doing meet and greets every day in the hot sun everyone else you know they do their 30 minute set their little 10 minute meet and greet and they

all go try to fuck and get wasted i'm under that hot tent seven hours working that motherfucker making making all the money yeah never partying and once the seven hours is over, then I go chill, redo my makeup. Then we swallow. Line them up. Line them up. Line them up, baby. But, you know, it was just,

it was such a crazy time for me. So I felt very hopeless. But then I'm ready to start the brand and launch this shit. Right. I have no investor. Akon was going to own part of my brand. Shout out to Akon. Amazing musician amazing musician right is he a good human too he is but he was going through so much turmoil in his life with his record label playing games

and all these things he could not be the best manager for me so okay circling back we you're on Warped Tour you're doing you're working your ass off and you're staying sober this whole time yeah yeah so you never had a problem with drugs or anything no wow so i didn't smoke so here's a great i didn't try weed until i was 23. okay we're on tour and i'm with daniel and the very first time was in salt lake city at this venue and their their house the venue owners their house was above the venue weird and it was very cool shout out to jackie i still remember her and they had the volcano bag oh my god a gravity bong type thing no no no like the volcano like the one that blows yeah yeah yeah that's the bong but like the bag okay gotcha and it's like pure vapor so it's very strong

for your first time yes extreme and obviously people always ask like why did you want to do it then it was like in the moment i'm feeling that not that rockstar life but like i had made it i'm on stage there's a few thousand people there every night it was very wild times right and i'm with daniel i felt very safe um and i was like you know what let me just try it for the first time like everyone else is smoking and they're acting normal i didn't i didn't like the wasted gross aggressive emotions all this i saw the array of people really happy really violent crying trauma coming out and i'm like all this when I saw the array of people really happy, really violent, crying trauma coming out. And I'm like, fuck all this.

When you're sober around drunk people. I just talked about this on a podcast yesterday. People don't get it. It's hard. It's awful. I tell everybody I'm judging you because there's nothing attractive about a woman spilling all over the place. A guy in your face, just breathing on you.

Like I hate it. People don't realize that until they're sober. Right. So it was, it was a great times hate it. It's so gross. And people don't realize that until they're sober. Right. So it was great times though. It was amazing. Right. So we're at this weird trajectory of like, how am I going to get this brand launched?

And then once the Acorn- The Gravity Bag though. Yeah. Oh, the Gravity Bag. See, I'm already on the Gravity Bag today. So we try a weed for the first time. So I take a hit. I'll never forget this.

And the bag's like big and you take a hit. And I'm like, I literally a hit. I'll never forget this. And the bag's like big. And you take a hit. And I'm like, I literally felt nothing. And a lot of people go, well, sometimes the cannabinoids don't work on your first time. Yeah, whatever. Oh, fuck. So I didn't know the vapor takes like maybe five to ten minutes to like kind of kick in. Hit you, yeah. So Mr. Extreme over here, I take like five more hits.

And I'm like, nothing's happening. This is so like, wow, I can't believe I took this long to try weed and nothing's happening. It hit me like a train. Oh, no. In the best way. Oh, good. No bad first trip. Good.

I can't stop laughing. Oh, I'm already a silly bitch. Yeah. Me and Daniel are on. This is cheetah print rug. Oh, I'm laughing hysterically in my Yeah. Me and Daniel are on. This is cheetah print rug. Oh, I'm laughing hysterically in my fucking underwear. The show's done. I'm all sweaty.

You know, I mean, we're just up there chilling. Everyone's getting a drink. La la la. I cannot stop laughing. The munchies hit. Oh, and we're like, OK, we start saying goodbye. I'm high for hours. We get into the van to go to the hotel.

The little looking to the little looking to. We're in the van going to the hotel. and I feel like we're on a roller coaster, and we're going 35 miles an hour. I'm laughing. We get to the hotel. I clean out the vending machine. Oh. I have no idea, but I'm so high, my brain blacks out.

Oh, no. I wake up. There's chili Frito bags, Funyuns, Snicker bars. Like I cleaned out that bitch. And I had an eating fest with Daniel. We ordered pizza. I don't remember ordering. And I had the best sleep of my life.

That's what I remember. What a fucking great memory of you two. It was beautiful. And I felt so safe with Daniel. I love that. So I start my journey of liking weed. And I didn't fully really get into it until I started my brand and I felt comfortable. And now, you know, I say I've been high for 10 years, but marijuana has been a really big, I don't know. It's so hard to like claim something

as doing something. Right. But it definitely has helped my creativity flourish. Right. Do you battle with mental illness still or anything? Honestly, no, not really. Like we all cutting or anything like that anymore. I was going to say maybe it like eases that. Yeah, it does take away full anxiety. I don't ever really feel anxious, but I do smoke weed every day where it's legal. Yeah. And let's say my team's like, yo, OK, I created a concept, but you need to name these 35 eyeshadows like now. Right. Puff. It starts coming out.

I need like, if that's what music, oh my God. When I did that first album, I had never really smoked. Right. Beauty killer and all the, but it was a way for you to channel your energy and just throw yourself into something

that you really enjoy. Yeah. I love that. It's really cool. So let's talk about something else that you enjoy, makeup. Do you still enjoy makeup? I really do. Yeah?

Yeah. And skincare now too. Obsessed. Talk to me about it. The older we get, I've always loved skincare. I used to tell people as young as 15, don't move your face.

Right. Yeah. Which was always my thing. That's why I'm frozen. Now as I get older, don't move your face. Right. Yeah. Which was always my thing. That's why I'm frozen. Now as I get older, I don't care. I dissolved all my filler and I'm just kind of living a more free life. But I'm still me. I'm still Jeffrey fucking star.

Do you do Botox or anything? I haven't in two years. Wow. It looks amazing though. Yeah. I have to have it. I can't. When I start getting the wrinkles in the forehead, I freak out.

Yeah. I do have more wrinkles. I'm not embracing them. Maybe they'll go away this winter. You look great though. winter right though thank you but i'm just doing a little more like my lips were too crazy so i dissolved a lot and you know when things start to migrate i look like fucking marge simpson so i had to yeah i had to tone it down for me like below my nose was getting weird no your face is perfect you look beautiful so i have to tone it down a notch for me yeah but we always do things for us, not for anybody else. But I always go extreme.

Yeah, for sure. So you started the makeup brand in 2014. 2014. I launched three liquid lips on Black Friday. And you were looking for an investor. Akon was going to invest, but he couldn't. He was out. Next, let's hit up my best friend of 12 years, Kat Von D. She's down.

She shows me a makeup lab and I start doing my formula. She literally gives me a sample with a name of the lab. I call it do all the work. When she tried to destroy my career online, which flopped and backfired, she said she did everything. It was the biggest insult I think I've ever felt in my entire life. Because I did everything. Yeah, it's always hurtful when a friendship breaks up.

It's like worse than a divorce. And publicly for the very first time, because I had not really done online drama. Then after that, as big as things got, oh, it was a bloodbath. I feel like people just come for you just to be. Yes. They used to all the time just to get attention. But it was my first big taste of the internet flipping without knowing any facts.

Oh, they don't care. And then days later, if I recall, they all flip back and realize it was all full of shit. Yeah, they don't care. But it was so hurtful for someone to say, I created his brand. It was like, but it was believable that was a problem. And now knowing-

Because she was a little bit bigger than you back then. Absolutely. Right, because she had that L.A. or whatever. And she liked having more money than me and she liked being the friend that had more. So when I surpassed her, she flipped on me. Twelve year friendship. She's tattooed

my whole body. Fifty portraits. Would you guys ever be friends again? No. Because of you? Because of the way I was treated. I can never forgiving is fine when you get older. You can never go back to someone that stabbed you fine when you get older you can never go back to someone that stabbed you that hard well you could not forget yes so it

was one of the most painful things I've gone through do you think maybe she's grown a lot since being a wife and I'm just playing devil's advocate no I honestly have no idea yeah I'm one of those people that now that I've really helped myself I don't lurk it's like the old, I would care what everyone's doing. It's so unhealthy. It is. Who gives a fuck what they're doing? I need to stop doing that. I don't.

So I don't read the news. I don't know what's happening anymore. I don't care who's fucking who, what's this, who did this. I just don't care. It's so unhealthy. You just get to a point of just serenity. But when you're in the same world, yes, you're told she has a kid now. That's crazy. yeah insane that shit that's fucking insane yeah and when you say also like i hate children and

then you have one anyone's allowed to change their mind obviously i've grown a lot it was wild to see someone become a parent right so. So hopefully it makes them nicer. I feel like Trisha Paytas having a kid has helped her grow a little bit too, you know? Absolutely. I feel like, I think, I don't know. I've never had my own child, so I wouldn't know. But I feel like children soften women too.

So, you know, you never know. Never say never. Maybe you guys will cross paths somewhere down the road and be able to, you know. Me and Trisha, maybe. Yeah. Trisha just did she did me and jay wrong and made up a whole drama yeah and then had a kid trisha actually flaked on me yesterday i came off tour to fucking do her podcast with her well to do her podcast and her come on my podcast and she text me an hour before she was supposed to show up that she wasn't coming that's so unprofessional i know but i'm just you know it is what it is and everything

well i normally don't talk about drama because the old jeffrey people just think things so differently than who i am yeah so i just kind of stray away from that and i don't like feeding into these things no never but she did me really wrong she made up all these lies that i fat shamed her and called her all these things never happened right never happened and then she gets in a fight looking for clout too of course she was that was her stick right right and it was at a time where people wanted to hate me and shane dawson right so she picks a huge fight with my hairdresser jay right here and it just turned into a bloodbath jay, how could you pick on Jay? He seems like a sweetheart. And he went in on her.

And the thing is, is like normal folks don't ever really hear someone like going in. Right. Like, yeah, when you're angry and you're hurt, you're going to fucking lash out and you're going to let someone have it. Oh, if I tell somebody off, I'm a bully. He told her off in the fucking funniest way and they all tried to turn on us like we were the devil.

I'm like, I've never, I literally just flew her to Vegas. We're front row at Mariah Carey. The internet starts turning on me and Shane were the devil i'm like i've ne i literally just flew her to vegas we're front row mariah carey the internet starts turning on me and shane during the pandemic she flips and makes up a whole story the vlog was filmed on her channel her being in love with all of us we go to vegas we take her on a shopping spree we do all these amazing things she deletes the vlog makes up lies about me and him and the internet at the time, they ran with it. She hurt me deeply. And she's never apologized.

I hate that. Well, Trisha, if you're listening, I hope that maybe hearing his side of the story will make you want to. It was hurtful. And she knows it was. I never knew any of that. I'd stay out of the drama. And then we never spoke again.

Wow. And it was like, damn, it was really hurtful. We just sold two million palettes. And there's a Trisha fucking eyeshadow in it. Oh, the Internet started to like him and Shane. I'm going to turn on them. So instead of everyone being like, wow, I know these people or me personally, they all started to flip. Instead of having your back.

It was a time where cancel culture was so prominent. Right. So all the celebrities are unfollowing. Everyone's feeding into it. And it's like, wow, you start to feel like a fucking piece of shit and it was really dark so she played me she got what she wanted at the time and now now she's doing her and canceling your podcast yeah yeah yeah i had no idea the drama between you guys i've never gotten into it's very one-sided yeah no i get it which is which sucks yeah because normally like, bitch, like I have some shit to say.

I don't even have anything bad to say about her. No, I get it. No, I'm the same way. I get drug into drama that I don't even want to fucking be in. And I never know. All the time. Of course. I never knew the story.

I was just telling my experience that I had had. Yeah. Yeah. And letting you know. But I'm ready to share because I have never really talked about it. And I think that I never got to say my piece because no one wanted to hear what I had to say at the time. I know. I just hate that for you. I feel like you're so misunderstood not now I feel like with TikTok everybody's starting to get to see the real you or the grown you and I feel like

everybody's loving it and embracing it her saying misunderstood was the only time today where I felt like a tinge of wanting to cry. Aww, I love you. Guess what, you wanna hug? Let's hug. Later. Okay. Listen. But yeah, it's hard when you have success to say you feel any type of way

because people equate money to you feeling fine. Yeah. I never started the brand to make money. Right. It grew insane and then I, so. You started the brand because you came from nothing and you had something to prove yes you didn't want to be a piece of shit your whole or you know whatever uh people a derogatory

name that people were calling you I totally understand I've been a hooker my entire life now I'm a millionaire because I fucking work and they can't understand yeah like they can't let go of that past but they want to you know they don't want to acknowledge what I've done with my clothes on you know so I totally understand where you're coming from let's talk about the brand though so you started it i started it 2014. so kat was going to be the investor yes flips on me we all know that how that ended and isn't it funny she doesn't even have owner brand anymore it's gone yeah the irony in the last my brand turns nine years old this November. Crazy. So grateful for the journey we saw. I then in the music industry, I'm like, OK, I have no investor.

I've already met the lab. The three colors are done. The formula is better than the ones on the market that have no money. So I'm sitting there in full hopelessness, but I'm like, I'm so hustler. Hello. So I. Dicks, do I got to suck? That's it. And and shockingly none to get the first loan good for you that's great so i start hitting up booking agents people that are in the industry do you know anyone connections that you've made i know everyone yeah i know all the all the booking agents from the little punk rock venues to house of blues to the arenas and i'm like okay i'm gonna start networking i start calling people this guy that owns samarian records had a meeting with me

and the co-owners of samarian records ash and jeff cohen invested in me and believed in the project and all i feel good it was insane to have To have somebody believe in you. To finally. In your vision. It clicked. Of like you have the funds to make the dream a reality. And all I needed was $100,000. So I put everything I had in. And they gave me the last of what I needed. On launch day. I paid them back in five minutes. Wow.

I just got goosebumps. It was beautiful. Because it was so like. Is anyone going to care? I'm like. I have to do a photo shoot i do a photo shoot in a pink coffin yeah my first brand shoot ever and my eyes are open and i'm like the liquid lipstick you've all been dying for coming soon and that was this journey of my of even

creating a website letting people know where you are and then it was just like you know releasing colors and then the first highlighter and then the first lip scrub and now it's spiraled into this massive thing and it's just so beautiful and i'm so in love with makeup and i've changed the entire industry literally everything i enter even tiktok industry i'm changing tiktok right now i'm taking the credit from doing the live streams of the live crowd dude we crack up seeing you on live all the time i'm like you never know what you're getting i'm like like, Jeffrey is fucking hilarious. It's really fun. No, you're hilarious.

And then battling the TikTok creators and the people that I didn't know existed. And then becoming part of the family. And then half of them fucking loving me. And you know half of them fucking hate me. I don't think they hate you. I think they just hate to love you. Yeah. That's really what it is.

And they can't believe I joined their platform. And I'm loving it. Some people are shook at how much I love it. I was so happy when I saw you on and I'm loving it. Some people are shook. I was so happy when I saw you on there. I was like, Jeffrey's on TikTok. I was like, it's about fucking time. I know. So in the pandemic, when it was this whole dancing era.

I hated it. I wouldn't do it either. I was like, you're not going to catch my fucking ass on there. It was the first time where I was like, wow, I'm not progressing with the internet culture. But YouTube is still so big. So let's go to, I start the brand. I learned what a beauty influencer is rolling my fucking eyes in the back of

my skull right now. Everybody's so catty in that industry. And just, I start doing YouTube. I upload my first tutorial. Now remember, I always forget to tell this to people. No one had seen me without makeup on before so my big which i think

you're gorgeous without makeup on i love you without makeup on with me and a lot of people do thank you for saying that but i wasn't ready and i felt insecure about it so it was your whole it was your mask it was everything your entire life exactly you hid behind that absolutely and now that my trauma was starting to heal i wasn't broke anymore i had tax evasion my bank account was frozen no one knew any of this and it was really really dark times i started the irs is a real fucking gangster that's it they love me i bet they do they love me and it and it transformed my entire life so as i started to to heal, the big shock was I'm going to be bare face on YouTube. Yeah.

And I saw what the other girls were doing. So boring. We all know I fuck everything I enter. I love that you always want to do your own thing because I'm the same exact way. I don't want to follow everybody. That's it. So I enter YouTube. I'm the first person I'm doing a tutorial.

I'm lighting up the bowl. They changed the rules. You can't do that anymore. Yeah. 2015, 16, 17. Oh my God. And then 18, 19 was just obviously in fucking credible. And my channel went from a hundred thousand to 18 million people. And it was just like, how is this real? From tutorials to showing everything about my, I call it my marriage, my five-year marriage from every surgery to every mistake is all on my channel yeah and i quit last year

you shared your life with everybody i did i was so invested in you and nate's relationship that is it was beautiful it was gorgeous to watch and thank you because i fell in love for the first time not knowing it was going to be on camera really right and it was really cool yeah i finally felt loved for the first time by another man that didn't want me to be a secret and it really helped me heal so being in love in that relationship really helped me heal what happened with you guys if you don't mind me asking can we talk about it um there's a lot of paperwork involved wow really yeah wow yep on his part um we, we, yeah, yep. I just went and lurked his Instagram last night and he doesn't look like he's doing well.

Really? No. Oh my God, that's so weird to hear because I don't lurk anymore. Obviously this was. No, I was like, where is he? Because I was writing my questions down. Oh my God. This November, I'm four years single.

I mean, no, I've dated people. That's not fair to say, but in a deep, real relationship. Yeah. Are you? Do you think that maybe you're scared of what? Of falling in love again? Oh, that's a great question. No, I and I'll get back to that.

No, I'm open now. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid at all. I know. No, I'm really not. I'm very open to it. Haven't met the right person. I've dated some people.

We've had a good time. La la la. But I haven't met anyone like I felt when I met him and our souls were like, wow. Twin flames. Yeah. Had no idea. So I have not felt that since. Our breakup can legally not be discussed.

Gotcha. I hate that for you, baby. I I'm so sorry everyone that wants the tea. I know, I know. It's not like I even wanna talk about it. It's just, it's a normal thing. Like you can legally talk about your breakups and whatever, I cannot. Which is a different world we live in.

So we had a great time. So there's not one person that you have met that has like just set your soul on fire. Not since. Oh, yeah. You're just. That's my vibrator. It's on the bus. It's my blood pressure.

It goes off. People think it's a vibrator. It's the NDA vibrating in my backpack. Oh, fuck. So moving on. Mm hmm on so you lurked that's so funny yeah so yeah and what is your synopsis so i miss bunny yeah because i was writing on my interview last night and i was like where the fuck is nate because that is the only part of your life that i was ever invested in i have not been invested since no offense no i love that i don't get in the drama and i don't care like i just love you as a human i love that um so you did a little lurking i did

so i went on nate's profile and he looks and i you know this is just my observation i'm not saying anything i don't know anything okay he looks like he might be under the influence of something not positive but he just doesn't look mentally okay you know so i don't know i even said that to haley earlier today i was like he didn't look good like you can look at you and see that you're glowing and that you're trying to heal and you know be a better human and with him it just kind of looks like he's lost probably still that's interesting yeah yeah oh my god do you ever miss him no okay moving on i love all the times we had though and a lot of it which is funny is on camera right we went to bora bora for the first time together like those were so cool and obviously there were so many moments off camera of of love and affection

and you know we we had little pieces on YouTube, but it was a beautiful relationship. It really was. And I had really fell in love with the first time. It served its purpose. Yeah. And it did. And it was so it was really great for me because it really did, like I said, help me heal. And I think it's hard for people if you haven't really fallen in love, what that feels like.

Because I thought it was made up. And then it happened to me. He probably helped heal a bunch of childhood trauma wounds. You know, he did. Yeah. in love what that feels like because i thought it was made up and then it happened to me he probably helped heal a bunch of childhood trauma wounds you know it really did you know growing up in chaotic households like we grew up in we searched for that puzzle piece that can make us feel like the you know the little kid that we were before so cliche when i stopped looking is when it hit yeah but hello i've never dated a fucking, a big guy before.

And I literally had sworn off all dudes. And then here comes this fucking big squish and he fucking just bounces into my life, dude. And the souls connect literally cannot explain it at all. Like he is just seven years and I just couldn't imagine life without him. So it's going to happen for you again too, because you're a beautiful human and you deserve to be loved.

I agree. And I'm, I'm open to it. Yeah. Well, you guys hear that? Jeffrey's looking. Well, no, Jeffrey's not looking. He's open. You never know. Yeah. Right now I'm back in my ho era, I think. Would it be a regular guy or would it have to be somebody who's on the same level as you? I would think trying to date you would be hard.

It is. Yeah. But I'm also really busy. So it's hard to right now want to give a bigger piece of me right now right i'm obsessed with my ranch i'm a real farmer yeah like i'm out there in louis vuitton covered in yak shit i got over 350 yaks i have four factory and camels i know why you love yaks i've come to the conclusion because i was pulling up a picture of them the other day because i was like diva of all cows i was like what the fuck did you come to that terminology tell me that's not the scene kid of the animal kingdom that is a highland scottish cow okay well i thought it was but they look very similar okay they do look similar gotcha i was like it's the hair it's the emo hair

like so yaks those are called so though yaks that look like that are called super woolies okay and there's different like hair on the yak but they're all really beautiful they're like i call them the diva of all cows are they fucking majestic as fuck i can't wait i'm so excited i live at the base of the mountain can i ride one yeah um you can ride a camel no no yaks yeah but you can pet a yak you can rub one to the ground oh they're really cool creatures and are they just so loving yeah i heard the coolest uh quote the other day that said um if you want to buy land and fill it with animals it's because in the time of need that you had during your trauma that was what the only thing that was there for you were the animals and i was like that's me because i can't wait to dye my hair

red and fucking be a gardener and fucking be ugly and just fucking also have i don't want to eat horrible food right that we're probably being poisoned with what is your diet um pretty pretty bad that's way better now yeah so let me let me drop a shot let me drop a shocker no fast food really yeah obviously i've had in and out once or twice a year but i used to eat and promote fast food like it was part of my thing. Right. And I do not – I haven't eaten fast food in like three years. Yeah, I don't eat fast food either. I ate In-N-Out when we were in Vegas.

Yeah, sometimes you have to. I literally didn't eat any sauerkraut and ground chicken today to just make my tummy feel better. But I love food. Yeah. And I eat a lot of yak now. Yeah. So obviously, I raise them for pets and breeding,

but now I have a full meat operation. Do you have certain yaks that you love? Yes. And they get to live? People always go in on me like, you're killing your pets. You're attached to. Yeah. The ones I name and I'm rubbing on on Instagram obviously are not being slaughtered for meat.

You're not taking. No, we haven't. We're not taking Snowflake and Snowstorm to the butcher. So we have a whole meat herd, which you'll see when you come to the ranch. I can't wait. And they're just there for food. Right. We're in six restaurants now. Wow. It's unreal. butcher so we had a whole um meat meat herd which you'll see um when you come to the ranch and they're just there for food right we're in six restaurants now wow it's unreal we're in the busiest steakhouse in all of wyoming called fire rock i love that maybe we'll have to go there oh yeah or we'll cook them at the house whatever you want whatever you want steaks so then of course i

opened up my new store right the jeffree star store we're gonna go visit that makeup and meet okay so let's before we get to the store you quit youtube you fucking left la after almost nine years on youtube billions of views did you just have enough it ran its course and then the drama from all my old friends they ruined youtube i always i'm it's their fault yeah they really did yeah so they the last final hurrah was two ex-friends uploaded a video full of lies about me and it literally ruined the internet. It was at a point where people did not want drama anymore. It's on CNN, 50 million views, and they're all trying to flip on me because I just keep climbing and climbing. So we all kind of, and then YouTube itself kind of. The beauty industry of YouTube was dead.

Right. We're all getting 30 million views. No one cares anymore. Right. And it's a new era. The monetization on it has changed even. Yes. Yeah.

But the cool thing is all my old videos are still there. Yeah. I get a check every month from Google. Yeah. It's like residuals on music. It's pretty cool. Yeah. So will I ever upload again?

I don't know. Maybe. I've been asked when I launched big makeup collections to go back and swatch them in a 30 minute video. Yeah. Versus this quick TikTok. Like, how do you promote a collection with 10 new items? Right. With a quick little 30 seconds.

So you never know. I think if anybody can figure anything out, it's you. Absolutely. If you can make anything your bitch. But I was burnt out. Yeah. So we're on 20 years of social media. Yeah. You just needed a you. But I was burnt out. Yeah, you were tired of it. So we're on 20 years of social media. Yeah.

You just needed a break. Your soul was tired. And then I discovered TikTok in a good way. When you quit YouTube, was that when you moved from LA to Wyoming? I had already lived in Wyoming. Oh, so you had already moved and you were already getting ready to just. Yep. You were going through a change.

Yes, a big one. Yeah. And it was necessary was a necessity. It was necessary. Did you leave L.A. just because of the humans that are there? Because I tell everybody like when Leo Skeppy came on the podcast, I was like, Leo, don't go to fucking L.A. It's not the same as it used to be. It lost its sparkle.

It's lost its magic. It's really not what it used to be anymore. At all. And I felt out of love with it. Yeah. And then it was just getting so dark and toxic and just so many weird things are happening behind the scenes. And a lot of people did not want me around anymore because of this moment of like when all the YouTube drama happened, I was going to expose a lot of people. And this is a tricky conversation.

Someone else's. Let me word this the right way i got cocky and thought that i could expose someone else's trauma and story to x out someone else gotcha that person did not want me to therefore this person is still free wow and that was very hard to deal with right yeah but it was also selfishly wanting to let everyone know this person's a piece of shit right and it's like i had to learn through my journey of healing and through therapy that was not appropriate which is i never did it obviously right but those thoughts were haunting me but your intention behind it was good yes because so many people were trying to hurt we're supporting someone who is so awful right it's that misunderstood thing again yes so the internet as the roller coaster my career has been they wanted me to be the villain

i guess that that year everybody needs a villain and it was crazy so this person begged and pleaded me not to share what they had told me i obviously respected it and never did it right let's still that shows that you're a good human you know you didn't see this person still out there they're not thriving like they used to be at all it's just interesting but the industry does have demon demonic snakes yeah absolutely i'll have to you'll have to tell me who it is later so i can steer clear of that human oh his name is james charles oh no really damn it do we need to bleep that no no no james you know you're a biggest he's the biggest piece of shit in the

beauty industry wow and he allegedly has done a lot of horrible things he admitted to talking to minors he is a fucking piece so that is true i just i always stay out of the drama he did a video allegedly not allegedly admitting to sexting minors so i never knew this hey we had a situation where he used one of my makeup artists hacks and didn't tag her so i just on my backup account i have a backup tiktok tiktok account i was just like hey james we love you we respect you but you know give credit where credit's due he wants to be the one that he did though oh okay i was very surprised right but what's crazy is everybody in the comments started telling me about the pedophile stuff and i was like god i didn't know you know like i stay out of it but one of the most vile human beings on this planet lord yep that's

crazy well honestly and i have never really talked or addressed these things but he is a literal fucking monster wow and the fact that he's out there and somehow has a beauty product, I guess, that just came out and A-list celebrities are promoting this alleged child fucker. Yes, Kim Kardashian,

we're talking to you. You're using his makeup, but you didn't care about Balenciaga putting child porn on their ads anyway. So two peas go into a pot, I guess. Right.

Is, um... People aren't ready for the truth everyone wants to keep their mouths shut and they keep why right if someone is bad let people know yeah no you have a-list celebrities literally using this shit has it's all demonic and really dark and all those people they stick together has he ever been charged i don't know i don't think so yeah i think that's probably will we see it in the future yes i'm sure well also the illuminati though not to keep bringing that up but don't they use people like james charles to bleed into other air you know because they can easily access minors the. Yeah. He is a big problem. And I don't speak on him, but they tried to ruin my career because of all the information I had. Wow.

It's really brave of you. So I moved away. I stood up to all of them, said, fuck you. Yeah. And I left that little L.A. County. And they're so controlled mentally by it. It's really sad. So. And you're free. Yes. You're literally free. But it's mentally by it. It's really sad. So,

and you're free. Yes. You're literally, but it's shocking. Honestly, it really is. And I never speak about this. People ask me about this shit all the time.

I don't dwell. I don't really think about them. But when you start, you know, you're interviewing me and we're talking about the literal past. I appreciate the honesty. And it's like, I'm always going to keep it real.

Need to know. It's not fair. Well, you could be saving another child, you know, like yeah but they don't people are not taking it as serious anymore or like new people discover someone and they're like yeah whatever well hopefully they will after hearing you speak on it because somebody such as yourself who's been in the industry for so long who has street cred literally you know you know, to be able to stand up to somebody as powerful as him, because he is a powerful dude,

and say that, you know, maybe people will start listening now. That's scary. It makes me sick just like thinking about his name. I'm so sorry. No, it's okay. I have no idea. It was just a really, it was like, yeah, it was 10 times what Trisha did to me is what he did.

I feel like that whole group is just a cesspool of just but i've learned that it's not i don't need to expose anyone right i don't need to do any of that it's all gonna play out how it's supposed to be yeah it always comes to light what's done in the dark always comes to light and he is pure evil let me just leave it at that all right moving on to more beautiful things casper take me take we're going to go see the beauty drama exploded i don't know wyoming's coming but i'm like i'm just so over living here yeah and i also had an ego death i love that you know when to tap out yes a lot of people don't know when to do that and you know about ego deaths uh yeah hayley just had one on the PJ last night.

What? Really? She took a fucking edible and thought she died. She was looking at me. No, but I'm talking about like when you, your real ego like diminishes. Oh yeah. No, I've been through, I went through a really bad domestic violence relationship where I almost died a couple of times.

Horrible. That will humble you and literally make you take the shell of the human that you were off and become a different human yes for sure i'm playing this in my book like december 19 i'm single for the first time in five years i move into the one of the biggest houses in la the big one of the biggest mansions in hidden hills yeah it was a big i remember seeing it online single 25 000 square feet pandemic lonely pandemic starts we had so much fun we filled so much content but i had a realization sitting in this massive home surrounded by all these things that it didn't make me happy yeah material doesn't make you happy no but i didn't know that because i didn't have time to really think until you were working towards the goal yes

so i don't know i want to leave california permanently i just know i want to be away i want to be in quiet i want to actually go heal and not pretend and talk about it like all my ex friends and we i've been to wyoming so many times I've been on tour, right, for years. We passed through here. Oh, my God. Stunning. So I'm looking around. Jackson Hole is very famous. A lot of celebrities live there.

Big mansions. No land. I'm like, fuck this. This is literally like going to LA. Yeah. We discover Casper. It's a small town. 60,000 people.

A hardworking town. People are nice. Country boys everywhere. Yep. Oil field workers. Farmers. There are some boys everywhere yep oil field workers farmers there are some really hot fucking oil field workers i say on tiktok i'm like damn hot ups workers baby listen so we we fly there a few times we love it everyone's really nice instead of like la well what do you do for a living you know they look you up and down how can i use you it's how

are you? I was like, and they genuinely want to hear you. Y'all really want to know how I'm doing. Yeah, I had to train myself to like. That's how it was when I moved to Nashville. The guard had to come down a little. Fell in love with it. I find a property that has a bunch of land for sale around it.

End of the road. No neighbors, really silence. Don't know I'm going to become a farmer and own one yak. Farmer Jeff. Farmer Jeff End of the road. No neighbors really. Silence. Don't know I'm going to become a farmer and own one yak. Farmer Jeff. Farmer Jeff's in the building. And all of a sudden I have all this land and I'm like, oh, okay. I had seen yaks on tour in Switzerland. 2010. We're in Geneva. We're going through in the little tour bus. Yaks on the hillside. Could you have ever imagined in 2010 that you would own a fucking yak farm just saying that chance encounter with them i google are they legal it's a fucking

bovine cow i don't know this though because they're i've only seen them in other countries yeah i google it there's even a yak farm in fucking town yeah i buy my first three oh you know i can't leave it alone i just have them be my pets right now we're i'm surprised they're not in the house with you. Sometimes they are. Really? In the kitchen, yeah. Oh, my God.

That is hilarious. The little ones that are trained, they'll come in and out. They're really cute. The dogs love them. I'm going to cry. They're really cool. I need that. I'm going to go tell my husband right now we need land.

And there are yaks in Tennessee, even though it's humid there in the summer, and I don't really recommend it. My friend does have a yak ranch out there. My husband, actually, I told him last night about your land in Casper, and he was like, dude, let's look for some land. I was like, I'll ask him if he knows anybody that's selling stuff. We're ready. We're trying to get a farm.

In peace and quiet. Yeah. There's nothing like it. Yeah. So what does Jeffrey do next? Do you just kick up your feet and just fucking relax? Like, does the little boy in you, is he ever going to be proud? I'm really proud now.

Good. I am. Running year nine of the brand, two years into skincare. I'm raising Tibetan yaks and camels. I mean, come on. And the farm life is so fulfilling. So last year, for six months, I didn't travel except twice to do photo shoots. Everyone came to me.

Jay saw snow for the first time. We did a photo shoot in 10 degree weather. I love your team, by the way. Are they great? His team is here and they're just amazing. And we're in the snow, 10 inches of snow, shooting the Wyoming winter campaign. Like we've done so many cool things. So I didn't travel for six months.

I got to really become a rancher. Yeah. And it's me and a few guys. We do it all ourselves. You get out there. All the time. And just bust ass. I love it.

Oh, I love it. It's like my big pet project. I'm obsessed with it. I love this for you. So now we're just growing it. More restaurants. So we just opened up the store. Right.

Which Yellow have performed at. Iconic. Meat and makeup. Like what a fucking crazy concept isn't it cool and a lot of people doesn't work oh baby yeah i'm gonna call my store one of the busiest retail stores in wyoming history wow and september they're working it i see you online just working it september 14th two month anniversary oh it's a zoo every day. A line out the door. And then I started to like make up a funny concept.

Celebrity works the register. It's my own store. I am very hands on with everything I do. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to go live and I'm going to just help the customers out

and like ring them up. Let's just see how it goes. I'm on a six hour stream. It's fucking crazy. Insane. And me and TikTok are good friends now We've just worked on a really big deal together

Yeah can we talk about it working on it I'm gonna do some announcements soon good But they are very happy That I joined uh duh One of the one of the highest viewed streamers Ever which is crazy Um it's not crazy And you guys seen the battles right and you've seen

People go live how you can send the gifts the fucking island boy is always so that i can't stand that i can't he's he's a piece of shit also there's they tried to battle me and i'm like no yeah no they're just not great so there's it's all very addicting and it's very fun and we're working on some big jeffree star moments yay which is so cool to be. And I'm the OG of social media. That's what I was going to say. For the newest, hottest platform, 20 years later, to be like, yes, sir. You reinvent yourself.

You're like the Madonna of social media. Yes. Madonna's kind of. Ooh, I like that. Literally, you are. You literally reinvent yourself. And you always know how to stay you know abreast of everything and just he's relevant always always relevant baby i love that for you and i love that

this this journey that you're on i love this jeffrey right here just you seem so i'm actually proud of myself so it's so cool that you said that because i never really talked about that i'm very grateful i'm very humbled and i wake up every day like it's my last and I just go hard. I love it. I think if I'm given this opportunity, I can't be lazy one day out of my life. No. So do you ever think you're going to be able to rest? Currently, no. You're a restless spirit like me. I don't it's like I always have, no matter how proud of myself I am, it's like, OK, what can I do next? Like I have to stay busy. Yes. No, I get that. I totally understand that that and there's so many more dicks to conquer and there's we didn't even get into the dicks isn't that nice finally someone had me on their podcast and it wasn't about my

deep throat it wasn't about all the band guys and all the athletes no i don't like that stuff doesn't it's so we've already done it all Especially from our past Yeah It doesn't interest me Yeah it's fun Off camera Maybe I'll show her a picture Yeah no I would like that Maybe I'll show her a few A-listers We can compare notes

Yeah For sure But I just feel like There's so much more to you Than the dicks you said Thank you And that is fun You're a fucking mogul dude

Thank you Like you can pick any dick In the world in seconds You know what I'm saying You have the choice of dicks Does the audience know That we've maybe slept With one or two of the same people um well no but they do now

i never go into i never discuss about who i sleep with so jeffrey except for that one time when mj came on my podcast yes and that okay so the reason not the reason but it accelerated our friendship as i wake up one day oh it accelerated it bitch i wake up one day and i'm on tiktok and i'm just starting my journey and i'm like why am i getting tagged in this thing about fucking sucking dick and i'm like oh typical then i'm and it's you and your friend and we're and it was just hilarious yeah so my friend so mj mj fresh came on the podcast and i get a fucking FaceTime. I'm on the phone with her and I'm like, this is a Wyoming number.

Do you think it's Jeffrey? And she's like, no, answer it. And I'm like, no, I'm not answering it because I don't know who it is. You know, calls three more times. And I'm like, I'm the only Wyoming number she should have on that phone. There's one area code for the whole state. Literally. Shout out to 307.

So I text it and I'm like you called and he's like bitch this is your new bestie jeffrey and i was like holy shit and he's like so i heard that i'm sucking dick long story short jeff jeffrey actually sucked one of my ex's dicks and hooked up with mj fresh's ex so that that's how it had gotten brought up and we were just like shout out jeffrey what if he's a player you know can i ask a question yeah of course how did she or you know so that's all i wanted to ask my ex um told me yeah he we i'm very open yeah he was like jeffrey sucked my dick one night and i was like how was it the tall was i'm The tall one? Very tall. And he's fucking built. He's got a little baby arm. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I'm deceased. Yes. So he told me. Very long. Yes. So he told me. And I was like, dude, how was it?

He was like, it was the best. So I have a photographic memory. Last name. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. That's crazy that you know that.

She said the tall one. The blonde, tall blonde. Yeah. So when that was she when he told. I. Yep. Absolutely. That's crazy that you know that. She said the tall one, the blonde, blonde, tall blonde. Yeah. So when that was, when he told me, I'm deceased.

Well, shout out to him for telling you. And he said it was the best head he's ever gotten. And I was like, too fucking amazing. I need some lessons, obviously. Why do you think I flew in to do this?

Yeah. I love you. I do have a question for you, though, about one hookup. He can fix it on camera. It's funny. Yeah, that's fine. I don't care. Oh, my God.

Can I have a sip? Can we share? Of course. I'm clean. No, you're fine. If a guy's flying out, he's getting 24-hour testing with the results to my email. Yeah. Is that, do you meet people?

Not that many people. I sound like I fuck every day. No. Have I met some people? Yeah. Yeah, it's every other day. You have to be very people? Not that many people. I sound like I fuck every day. No, no. Have I met some people? Yeah. Yes. Every other day. You have to be very good to be guarded. Have you guys ever hooked up? No, but he's seen the same guy. Tell him.

Oh, so so besides you can say this or no. So besides doing wigs, Jay also does porn on the side. No, he's a star. I love that. Come, Kevin. Come on. And I was like, taking with you. And I said, well, this is for talent, but I'll bring you in for the land, man.

I love that. Because I'm like, where can I go in? Because I started to get more famous as the makeup brands popped in. Yeah. And I'm like i don't want to go to this men's free clinic anymore people are gonna think oh he has something so he's getting he'll make up the craziest shit yeah for sure you're like no i just want to make sure i'm safe and clean bitch yeah so i was like damn jay i don't want to go to this place anymore

people are gonna like take it you know because you're in the lobby someone goes like this yeah oh no oh my lord you can have the rest of it you're fine thank you so they literally people will say something and it's like word is bond like they they don't have to have any proof it just spreads like wildfire the fucking does that shit to me every day so jay hooked me up and yeah you know but i have been on the trip like obviously being in these like partners so you guys are you guys like bff Yeah, like obviously people can turn that into something. So it's like, you know, I'm in a very, very strong clique. We've all been friends for years.

So I was like, hey. I love that. Thank you, Kevin. Of course. Well, look, I don't go anywhere. These two are my shadow. That's it. Amy and Mimi.

Like when you find your squad that you trust. We've had other employees, like people have tried to fight us. They've ran. And I mean, I'm literally looking like this. And I'm like, I have his back always. I want to see Jeffrey mad running in full glam. Swinging. I would pay for that.

Swinging, baby. I'm like a fan wanting to take a photo, but Jeffrey was having a conversation. And you know, people have sometimes no boundaries, no respect. At all. The fan was belligerent drunk and I don't tolerate not disrespecting. But God forbid a public figure

or somebody acts on their feelings and they get bashed for it, right? Because they don't see the other side of the story. There's always two sides. Give me just one second. Let me finish this conversation. I haven't had a drink thrown on me. I'm talking. I'm talking who the marijuana sitting. I'm talking 10 years.

We're in Casper, Wyoming. She don't have it. She can't get her photo right now. She throws a Red Bull can. It splashes my shoulder and it gets on him. Game over. Let's just say game over. It's a wrap. I don't understand how people feel so entitled to somebody's time and body. It's just crazy to me.

But I'm also so nice. I love taking pictures. Look how fucking sickening I look. I want to take a photo with you. I don't want to hide in the dark. Yeah, for sure. Hey, I'm just having a... People don't care. Yeah.

A lot of people also try to think that they can get away with attacking a guy, too. Yeah, that's crazy. Baby, I don't care who it is. If you don't start, none won't be none. That's it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but we're not about the disrespect. But most people are obviously really great.

They are. No. And we do this because of you guys, you know, like without you guys, there is no us. So, all right.

So I'm going to ask you some questions. We're going to end this on the hot seat. Dude, we've been talking for an hour and a half. It's about to start. It goes by so quick. Crazy, right?

What's what's, it's not tripping me out, but it's really cool and, and amazing when I meet someone and it's like, I've known you for a long time. Aw, I love that. That's how I've always felt. And I've been interviewed a lot. You've been interviewed a lot.

And so has your husband. And you know, sometimes or a lot of the time, or it's the same fucking question. It's like, girl, you don't have anything else to say? Yeah. And I feel like I've known you for a long time. I love your energy. I love your energy. I think that's the biggest compliment that you could ever give a human is loving their energy.

Absolutely. And I've always felt drawn to you. And I watched those three podcasts because I really have not kept up with you. And when I got done watching them, I told my girls, I was like, he is me. Literally, like we're like the same type of human. Isn't it funny? So she has watched me do a few podcasts and then been on them. has watched me do a few podcasts and then been on them it's don't you find it weird sometimes of some how people act on camera with me versus with other people yeah yeah uh yeah i brought that up

to you before the show i was like you know maybe they're not straight but we're not gonna say names on can i get it yes exactly all right so this is called the hot seat i'm gonna ask you a couple probably like six questions. I'm ovulating. You have to answer them as fast as you can, okay? All right, Mary Fuck Kill. Kanye West. Okay, Mary Fuck Kill.

Let's go. Yep, Kanye West. Jelly Roll. Drake. Oh, this fucking bitch. I know. Listen. Listen, inquiring minds want to know.

I feel like Drake swings the other way. So we're going to marry Drake, fuck Jelly Roll, and behead Kanye West with a guillotine. Okay, gotcha. And on my life, I have never slept with that man. No, I know. We've been in the same room. I fucked a bunch of his friends.

I've sucked off some of his homies. Yeah. I don't like short dudes. Yeah. It's like guys that wear eyeliner. Yeah. I love eyeliner. I'm not into short kings.

You're not a king if you're short. I love tall guys too. So yeah, my average is like a nice 6'4 and up. Right. Tallest I've been was 6'10. Well, because you're 6'1 i love tall guys too so yeah my average is like a nice six four and up right tallest i've been with six six one right and you wear heels that's just six ten call me i mean he's overseas playing basketball right i was gonna say that's gotta be hard to find a six tenner what's the weenie on that look like oh my goodness literally oh. It's giving medium rare. It's giving thick. It's giving stunning. It's giving statue-esque.

What's the dirtiest thing you searched on your phone last? I'm going to be a disappointment. Okay. I don't really search dirty things. Right. I'm someone that's really into POV. I love when people film me on my phone. Another man has never filmed me on their phone. But on my Google searches.

That's amazing that you've never let another man film you. Hell no. And when they come over, your phone's in the car. Wow. Do you make them sign NDAs? Absolutely. See, people get mad at me for making bitches sign NDAs. No, it's real.

You have to, you have to protect yourself, dude. And you also know when you've been doing this for a long time as ex prostitutes, you know someone's real. You have to. You have to protect yourself, dude. And you also know when you've been doing this for a long time as ex-prostitutes, you know someone's energy. Absolutely. Whether they're a band groupie, a normal girl on the street, or an escort, you know if someone's trying to be fishy. Yeah. And you don't think we know if someone's trying to pull a cat. But even if they're not trying to be fishy at that time, once they don't have your time or your attention, then they get fucking shady, dude.

Wow. Like, that's how people are. That's a big statement. It's so fucked up. What's the worst thing you've ever sent to the wrong person? We airdrop people on planes just fucking around all the time. We fucking will like screenshot nasty shit. I think on accident when something is near something I have.

But thank God it was with a friend. Right. Of like, here's a w it was with a friend. Right. Of like, here's a wiener in my mouth. Right. Like that could ruin my, to me it wouldn't ruin my career. People would actually like that.

Yeah. But like, you wanna see a picture that Jay took? Sure, I would love to. This is on a little private jet moment. I'm like, I would love to. Yeah, and obviously I'm like, hey, are you down to take a photo? Cause there's weird artists,

like there's the R. Kelly side, and then there's your friends, and you all have fun side. We're in the very fun side of life. When we're in the private jet and the sky is just blinging, it just looks stunning. Whose wiener is that? Good Lord.

All I saw was dick. Isn't that cute? I didn't see the body it was attached to. Yes. That is a huge wiener. Isn't that cute? Goodness. Yes see the body it was attached to. Yes. That is a huge wiener. Isn't that cute? Goodness. Yes.

Yes, it's very cute. It's beautiful, right? It's a great picture. But I love, and I'm really into like a nice 12. That is huge. Yeah. Do you take that? So my maximum of deep throating, and I'll admit this on Bunny's show, is a 12 inch.

Right. After that, I can't take any more. I mean, that's 12 inches is a lot. Do you take that? Oh, this folder is banging. All right.

Let's finish these questions. Oh my God. Look at these fendi glasses. Good Lord. That is beautiful. That was a beautiful penis. That was a different penis, right? Oh, way different.

Okay. I was like like That one's gorgeous Those are three I need to see who that's attached to Later Okay I'm literally in heat right now I'm in heat He's verklempt over here

Who's not doing merch right now Jack Jack from Sleeping With Sirens He's over here That has Never hooked up with him either Really But a lot of his friends

We were trying to put He's too short We were trying to put bets On Alex or Jack I was like Neither On God neither Yeah too short We'll bleep this bets On Alex or Jack I was like Neither On God neither Yeah too short

We'll bleep this out They're both too short Yeah No you don't have to bleep it out Because I didn't He said too short What's the grossest thing That comes out of your

That has came out of your body Huh I'm usually really quick I stumped Jeffrey Huh Jay's like i know i'm like i know because i'm like i'm very like i'm so clean like i never sweat i never smell i'm so like a cleanly person same way something like coming out is like i got hair transplant surgery so seeing my so seeing my skin i know this is the answer people want but seeing the

skin removed while you're awake and then having it because you're giving yourself an organ transplant yeah and then seeing it move to the front was crazy was that painful yeah fuck yeah it was and worth every penny worth every penny my husband wants that and i'm like baby my doctor's the best in america okay oh he's out here yeah it takes like two or three weeks to heal so when he's on the next album yeah or doing something on tour, amazing time to do it. All right. I'll talk to him about it. Yes.

All right. We got you hooked up, daddy. Oh my God. We got you, baby. Doctors daring. We love you. All right. Would you rather make out with a dude who chews tobacco or go down on a girl on her period?

Girl on her period. His face. I said the same thing because they could keep a tampon in. You know what I'm saying period exactly and then I just Wyoming and all the

fucking chew disgusting yeah chew is gross or how they spin bottles I don't want to make out with you with that fucking tar on your gums I'm not doing it

it's nasty I'm not doing it I don't with dudes cigarettes uh uh then your cum tastes weird absolutely not

no yuck tangy tangy cum it's so gross what's your favorite song right now sexy red and suki hood rats he loves sexy i'm obsessed with literally hip-hop oh and then i'm i don't even know this person oh my god the penis is still on my phone jesus that was big oh my god no it was a oh my god bitch look at the other angle no it's crazy that was

like a 10 and a half i love how happy you look with a dick in your mouth though like you literally like it's it's my happy place jay is over here shaking his head right now i'm gonna shout out a new a newer country artist josh malloy yeah fucking. You humped him? No, no, no, no. Not yet. He has a song called Met the Devil in Oklahoma. Okay. I haven't heard of him yet.

Amazing. You'll have to pay for us on the bus. It's cool. I can't wait. And I love country. I just don't do the tobacco, y'all. No, it's so gross. So if you want to fuck this face

and use me as a basketball, no tobacco. Listen, and I'll tell you right now, the pictures I just saw, I've never seen a happier human with a dick in their mouth. Really? Like you're just lit up like a Christmas tree.

Yeah. Besides that, like doing makeup. That's my happy place. I love it. I love it. And I love you. I appreciate you coming on the podcast. I'm so glad my knees transplants healed before I came here.

On a real level, you guys. Bunny is a fucking queen. She's a mogul. She's an entrepreneur. And I have so much respect for you. And thank you for having me on your show mogul. She's an entrepreneur. And I have so much respect for you. And thank you for having me on your show, baby. Thank you for that. I appreciate you so much.

Thank you. You want to shout out your socials? I'm sure everybody knows where you're at. Listen, jeffreestar.com. Jeffree Star on literally everything. And no OnlyFans. I'm so easy. OnlyFans offered me a lot of money.

Almost did it. Started doing all that type of stuff. Didn't take the deal. Didn't need the money, but it was also very exciting but it's just not time not yet so in the future i don't honestly know like you did with tiktok i don't have the desire to right now yeah absolutely is there a tutorial coming of me the 12 inches i think that would be hot i think somebody we need that tutorial because i was told by an ex that he was the best head he ever had. And I'm pretty. I like to pride myself. I can't believe that because it's a listen.

This dude has a fucking little baby arm is what I call it. It's like a fucking huge. And the condos have nothing on me. Crazy. It's going to be a long trip back to Wyoming. That's it. Do we have cucumbers on the bus? All right, y'all.

Dislocating Jaws since 1985. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.