Dumb Blonde - Lena The Plug: For The Love of Lena

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

You might think you know Lena the Plug, but there's so much more to the story. This week, she joins Bunnie to spill everything—from what's really going on with Jason Luv, her unconventional relationship with Adam, what he truly thinks, and how she accidentally became one of the top adult content creators on the scene. She talks about her new reality show, For the Love of Lena, where men compete for the chance to be with this hottie. Lena: IG | Plug Talk | For the Love of Lena Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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is this thing on bonnie who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast dumb blonde most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit and i was like i want to be super hot make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's that was my goal as a child and here we are what's up you sexy motherfuckers today i I'm so excited. It has been a long time coming. We have pretty much like I would like to say an anomaly because you are not only a boss bitch, but I really feel like you're paving the way for a lot of things that, you know, people have worked their lives for and you're just kind of making your own way with it.

Lena the plug is here. Hi everyone. I'm so happy to be here. Dude, like I said, I feel like it's been such a long time coming. Yeah, I agree. I'm like, every time I see your podcast on my feed, I'm like, wait, have I not been on this already? I feel like it's just, we've talked about it. It almost came out a few months ago. And then you guys, this is the first time I've flown in to Vegas for just two hours. Literally.

Like, I'm coming here for this. You're a gangster on the first day of your period yes you're a gangster I was just telling you that I had to give you your flowers because I don't do shit on the first day of my period I really need to block myself out on that week I have two uh people who work for me who are in my calendar and they will just put shit in it and I'm like oh my god I want to take like a week off and I look and I'm like wait I can't book for the next two months. These like I'm glad because I made some really great hires. But I'm also like, fuck, they're working me hard. Yeah, they're fucking you're the little workhorse.

You're the moneymaker, baby. So I have been watching you for years. You know, you and Adam, what you guys have built, I think is so beautiful. So amazing. Jay and I admire you guys. We think you guys have built, I think is so beautiful, so amazing. Thank you. Jay and I admire you guys. We think you guys are awesome. I watched a lot of podcasts with you last night, and I don't ever really hear you touch on your childhood and stuff like that.

Where did you grow up? Where are you from? I'm from Glendale, California, which is like, it's LA, but I feel like it's also very different from LA. I feel like I live- It's like a suburb yeah and and everyone knows it now because there's like the americana is like a nice fancy little outdoor mall over there kind of like the grove yeah but um to me it was just like an armenian

community outside of armenia um it's very like multicultural um i i feel like in a way it's almost like i grew up in armen Cause I, there was like the, the cultural shame around sex that came from the Armenian culture, um, that I kind of grew up with, but not just that. It was like, I wasn't this perfect Armenian girl because my family, although they were Armenian, like, and they, we spoke Armenian, we ate Armenian food, whatever, like we weren't like, I don't speak perfect perfect Armenian and so I felt like I didn't really fit with that group of people because they sort of shamed me for not being Armenian enough no um so you always felt like you didn't belong yeah I was like whitewashed or super Americanized

or whatever to them even though like walking around in the world like I feel Armenian you know are both your parents full Armenian yeah both yeah both my parents are armenian it's just that they were born in the middle east because there was like a genocide so everyone left so like when you talk to a lot of people who are armenian most of the time their parents weren't necessarily born there it's like their great-grandparents were born there right that's gotta be hard so when doing what you do i love that that you call yourself an adult content creator you don't ever call i never hear you say that you're a porn star because technically i don't i think you're so much more than just sex work like you have so much shit going on in the beginning

of my career i was doing the private snapchat thing which feels like super old news dude like that was fucking i don't even, like probably 10 years ago. So yeah, I got into that in 2016. And at the time, OnlyFans wasn't a thing yet. And I was getting invited to things like AVN with actual porn stars who shoot for studios. But I was making YouTube content. So I didn't feel comfortable calling me a porn star.

And in the beginning, I didn't even feel comfortable saying that I did porn because I was taking photos of myself in the bath and i for some reason my brain didn't really commute compute that that is porn that's all porn used to be yeah you know and so i get and then now we live in this like only fans girl era and i don't even like to just say that i'm like i'm an adult content creator no matter what platform it ends up going on yeah but i i guess i also make youtube content so i'm like a social media influencer but there isn't like a perfect word for it i love that you don't let people put you in a box though because i'm the same way

and i think that's amazing that's why in the beginning i said that i feel like you're kind of paving your own way because most girls that are in the industry that you're in and that do what you do would be like oh i'm a porn star and that that's just what they would roll with but with you it's like no there's so much more that goes into it like you're a boss you i don't really think about it like that but thank you no for sure because i feel like when you do porn and when you're hanging out with the porn girlies if you try to say like oh no i'm more than that then they feel like especially with our industry where we're kind of outcasts i wouldn't want anyone to feel like oh she thinks she's better than me because she's put out a couple of blogs,

you know, like, like I also do porn and I feel like that's, that's my squad. We all get discriminated on Instagram or whatever for the same, in the same ways. Like, for example, I got a note from my bank that I've been with for God, like 15 years now, yesterday saying I have 30 days, my account is closing right there. Just because you're a sex worker probably it's not what the paper said but it's like you know they don't look at me they're doing that a lot i i'm not surprised i saw it and i was like fuck but i wasn't surprised you know but so i get discriminated against in the same ways that traditional porn stars do so i try to like make sure i'm always saying that i'm a part of that team you know because like like i've been banned on Instagram,

like I'm shamed in the same way. So I don't want to be like, well, I'm, I'm better. I'm different, you know, because although I used like YouTube and means like that to make a name for myself, mostly 99% of what I'm doing is I'm making porn. Yeah, absolutely. But I mean, you also, you have like the Lynn of the mom, uh, Instagram Instagram and like you've tried to branch off and do and have like you had your own podcast that was going on for a while. What happened with that? What happened with your podcast? It was so good. What was it called again? I forget. Touchy subject. Touchy subject. Yeah, I know. I like fully. Adam bought me podcast equipment for Valentine's Day and was like, you're doing a podcast. And I was like happy and it was sweet because I'm like, he's pushing me to do something that I want to do but I'm also like nervous to do I feel like it ended because one it was hard for me to get guests yeah it's hard and get them to show up yeah but be part

of it was like my own sort of like uh self-sabotaging insecurity about like oh maybe like it's not good enough because like everyone has a podcast. You're a perfectionist. I know. Yeah. And I'm kind of like, I don't want to just be another girl with a podcast. Like I want it to actually be good. And I want, I don't want to just get guests on who want to come on. I want to get the guests on that. I am actually curious to have a conversation with. And I think those guests were a little harder to find for me. Absolutely. I've been doing this five years. I've been doing this since before podcasts were boomed. And so now to see how many podcasts I tell them, like my management team, I meet with them all the time and I'm like, what's the next, I don't want to do what everybody else is doing. What's the next level. But I've somehow turned

this into a seven figure business and it's like, okay, what's next talk shows, you know, but I'll be the next Joan Rivers. I don't give a fuck. Let's do it. You know? So I totally understand what you're talking about. I want, if if i'm gonna do it i want it to be good and meaningful but it was good and it was meaningful my 10 episode run you gotta do you have to do it maybe i'll come back i know so circling back to your childhood about you know the the sexual kind of repression that you grew up in because of um your heritage yeah does that ever make you feel shameful now like do you have because i know i grew up in a super religious family so i know when i was an escort out here everybody knows i was a high-end escort for you know fucking 15 years out here

and i always battled with the light and the darkness because i was like you know god wouldn't approve of this and you know it's like you have to kind of like flick the angel off your shoulder to, you know, get through, you have to survive. Yeah. Um, I mean, I don't feel like what I do is unethical at all. Like, I don't feel like I'm making unethical porn when I'm on set. I don't feel shame. I know. I'm just like, it's honestly like I'm having fun with my friends, like, you know, and then we fuck and it's fun and we make some money but when I find myself going into spaces that have like Armenian people like let's say like the bank in my neighborhood there's always like Armenian people who work there I'm always like kind of like making sure that I'm dressed super conservative because I don't want any extra

questions because they'll see my last name and like right and in a way I feel like I don't want to disappoint them because I've already disappointed them because there's like this perfect mold that you're supposed to fit in just be like the perfect proper wife and I do feel like in a lot of ways I am that person I'm a wonderful mother but then I also just happen to have this job that is super looked down upon don't you hate that stereotype yeah it's like people feel like just because we're in the sex industry and in sex work because I had an only fans also that you can't be a good mom and you can't be a good wife. Like why? I don't understand why people feel that way.

I feel like it's such an outdated male chauvinistic point of view. Yeah. It's also because they just don't know. Like I feel like if they walked on set one day, they'd be so shocked by how like normal and professional and clean. And, you know, it's not like people are sitting around and shooting up and then fucking right you know and that's what people think i always tell everybody hoes make the best wives like literally linda's face she was like yeah

like i'm sure that they look at you like that when you say it no but like because you know i because i i call my you know because i was in the sex industry like i said i was an escort so i always like i have uh in hoes we trust, merge and stuff like that. So we use the term hoe very loosely around here. It's not in a derogatory way. But I always say, you know, like my girls that are in the industry, we all make great wives.

Like they literally like know how to cater to a man. They're, you know, very open sexually. You know, I cook clean like I'm a freaking maid. Like, you know, like it's just a different way of life. But like you said, people just don't understand it. No, they don't understand it. And it's like, you know, I've done so much with Adam and other women, like hundreds of scenes.

And I did this one scene in July with another person, Jason. And now all of my comments are about how I'm a cheater. Yeah. And I'm like, how come Adam was never a cheater? Like how come he was never seen as not loyal? Yeah. You know, and I make jokes all the time. Like I'm like, oh, America's favorite wife. But it's like I fucked one guy with my husband's permission. You know, all of a sudden, I mean, it's not like they thought very highly of me to begin with. But now my reputation for them is tanked. No, we're going to start. We're definitely going to circle back to that. So going back to the childhood, I heard in a podcast that you said that you went to college or something and you worked with autistic children.

Yeah, so I actually went to college and I got a degree in psychology up in Santa Cruz 10 plus years ago, which I'm like, I can't believe I graduated college that long ago. You know, I just did. I was always like the good girl. I was like the good student. I was in student government. Like I was a part of the I was the secretary. Like I just always followed all the rules. And I was like, the next thing to do is that you go to college.

And so I was the first person in my family to go to college. Did you want to go to college? I did. I wanted to go to college because I wanted to get out of my house. It wasn't like I was like dying to learn. It was get me the fuck out of here this is my ticket how was your relationship with your parents um my dad had already moved my parents divorced my dad was out of the house by that point and I had I have a sister who's like 13 months younger than me so we're very close in age so um I was definitely sad to be separated from her but they split the family or well when I left

college yeah yeah my parents divorce was like pretty ugly we had to like see way too much of it and I was just like you know that's brutal yeah so hard on kids yeah it's it was definitely a really ugly divorce and it just made me wanted to get out get want to get out like my entire family I love them to death but they're there's so many of them and they're like a little bit overbearing and it's like everyone gets involved in everyone's business and it's great like I have so much help with my kid at home when I need it but that also comes with a little bit of like oh I just want my space I just want to be me and so I go to college in Santa Cruz, which is like, like we have like 420 festival in the field.

Like people aren't wearing shoes to class. It's very like free peace love. And I was so happy to be there. I feel like I just learned so much about myself and got to like grow. And I mean, college is so expensive. So I wouldn't just like advise someone to go just to get out of their house. Right. But I had loans or a motherfucker.

Yeah. But I was so lucky at the time. I had so many grants like i didn't have to pay a lot for college i like had you're a smart cookie i love that about you you're so well spoken and eloquent also thank you um but yeah i was like college was a great experience even though i didn't necessarily use my degree um but after i graduated i worked with kids who had autism and then i was nannying with kids who had autism, which was like the most rewarding work ever. It was great. It was, it was sad. It was definitely sad to leave that to pivot. Cause I did feel a little bit of guilt there. Like everything I was

doing, I could see the wonderful consequences of like one of my most rewarding things I've ever done is like teach a kid how to ride a bike when his parents thought just like he was never going to learn. Cause he was so grown by that that point whereas like most kids are learning at three or four and he was like eight or nine and I taught him in like an hour and they came home and they were like crying they were so happy to see him riding a bike and like these kinds of things that I I don't do for work anymore obviously I get to do with my daughter but when I was leaving that line of work because I was like oh I just want to do something different and then I fell into sex work yeah there was like a little bit of guilt there you know would you ever go back to helping

I don't feel like I would be allowed to work with kids anymore I didn't even think about that yeah yeah yeah isn't that terrible too though like I understand I get it but at the same time like would you ever circle back and do psychology again maybe I'm honestly not sure like I don't really think too much about what I want to do after because I feel like I'm honestly not sure. Like I don't really think too much about what I want to do after because I feel like I'm so not done yet. Right. But I think once I'm ready to be done, I'll I probably will end up going back to school just because I really love it. Like I took classes online at the UCLA Extension Program for fun like a few years ago just because I really do enjoy it. I love that. Let's dive into how. okay so you were work you were working with autistic

children and then is that when you made the switch into the adult industry or how did this all begin for you I started um interning at like a social media company that was big on snapchat as like 2016 and I just wanted to do something different and I had nothing on my resume that could prove to them that like I was capable so I basically started working for free and then within a few weeks they'd hired me and we we were doing all these like snapchat takeovers which is like you get on these big snapchat accounts and whatever so I like basically just learned about all of that and and was like well all these girls were working with like I'm as cute as them like I'll just make an Instagram and one thing led to another and I had like a big snapchat and then everyone was like

well what's your private snapchat and so they sort of made me this content creator by asking for that content you know I love that so you just kind of like accidentally fell into it just that's what I say people are like no you did it and I'm like no seriously I posted a bikini photo and then they asked for the nude and I sold it to them and and that was that i love that you sold it to them though because most most girls wouldn't know that that just shows your business frame of mind though too well i mean i was definitely like even posting a bikini photo at the time on my instagram was really scary yeah i was like well what are my aunts gonna say oh shit yeah you know so it's not like i went from that to just doing porn right away it was slow it was

kind of slow you know um but as i did it i got more and more comfortable and yeah so yeah one thing here we are and did they nickname you lena the plug or did you come up with that because it's so catchy i'm honestly sometimes i still hate it i'm like why didn't i pick something else i love it dude it was like not a sex related name at all. I just have a really long Armenian last name. I love it. What is it? It's like Narcissian.

Narcissian. And that was my Instagram. But I was working for a social media company. And he was like, sweetheart, this is not a good. People cannot find this last name if they want to look for your at on Instagram. So he nicknamed me Lena the plug because I was like a good employee. It's like the most boring story because everyone's like, is it like an anal butt plug? Like, what does it mean? I'm like, no, it's, it's not sexy at all. It's like the plug, right? Like a,

like a drug dealer has a plug. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, that's what I've always known you as. So I found you whenever, I think I found you right before you and Adam got together or right in the beginning. I can't remember. It's been so fucking long.'s a long time I know um so take me out you're doing snapchat you're crossing over into this crazy world how are you feeling are you excited about it are you nervous do you think you know like I was excited and nervous because that was like very early in my time on instagram you know being this sort of not personality but just like showing a lot more so that's like when my family was finding out and in the beginning you know there was a lot of like back and forth with my mom where she was how was that touch on that for us

um you know part of her was like okay this is okay like this is a new world like this sort of content is not seen as like as taboo. Everyone's posting bikini photos online, whatever. And then she would like see a documentary about some porn star turned heroin addict and would be like freaking out. So it was definitely like a lot of this up and down. And then she sees someone like Adam come into my life and she's like, he looks like a bad guy. Oh, we cannot expect good things from this man. You know, when did Adam enter the scene? The end of 2016 okay so you were like fresh into the industry and then here comes adam no i actually when i met adam i

was like hey like everyone keeps asking me to make a private snapchat like what do you think like i think i can make you know this much money on it and he was like oh that's crazy like you should totally do that i was definitely on the fence mostly because of like, what, what would my family think? Will this really ruin my prospects for work in the future? I'm 25 at the, at that point. So I just, I didn't have like as much life experience as I do now. I, you know, I couldn't see into the future. I thought like, I'm going to make quick money for a couple months and then it's all going to be over and will it be worth it? Like I wouldn't have imagined that it's, you know, fast forward to 2023 and i'm still doing it and it's making bank baby yeah and it's like a way bigger industry now you know it's insanity so much more normalized

it is crazy yeah um take me back to when you and adam met when does adam enter the scene you said end of 2016 yeah so um my job at that social media company, they were like, oh, can you get us on some podcasts? Can you find if they'll work with us? No Jumper was pretty big back then, right? 2016 or was it still growing? I think it was still growing. It was definitely early. I don't know if they had a million subs on YouTube yet.

But it's funny because when I met Adam, he was like, so you don't know who the Suicide Boys are? And I was like, I have no clue. I really had no clue because I found No Jum jumper through an EDM podcast because I liked EDM music nice and so he really thought I was like pulling his leg but I reached out to him to help with the company whatever and we just ended up like going on a date and fucking that night and realizing we were kind of crazy and all already talking about threesomes um so literally on the first night you guys meet you guys are already talking about threesomes that's exactly how jay

and i were yeah yeah i think because we're have were you always so open had you already had threesomes then and stuff like that i had had a few threesomes i had a girlfriend in college i i didn't mind like i not that i didn't mind i actually like really liked women yeah and i i was i was horny like i was like yeah fuck yeah threesomes are hot you know I don't I don't see a problem with them and I get so much hate online especially um from our our side of the world because you know my husband decided to go from rapper to country yeah they don't understand it the country fans are like I can't believe you're in an open marriage which we're not in an open marriage that's not what it is do you and Adam consider yourselves in an open marriage okay what do you

let me hear what you guys explain what your relationship is i mean we're to me we're monogamous even though he fucks other women right because i just know especially now when we've done hundreds of them it's just not a big deal it's just sex i guess we're open on camera not fully open because i don't fuck other guys on camera yet you know for me in the beginning people always like you don't get jealous I'm like no I went through all my jealousy in the beginning like learning through being with Adam like what I was comfortable with what I wasn't comfortable with how much he didn't actually care about the girl how much it was really just about the scene and the sex and so now I don't

get jealous but with Adam it's like now we're back in that place for him because now we're sort of opening it up for me to work with other men right within like the bounds of our relationship and so we're just taking it slow because I don't want to like throw a bunch of things into the mix but it's not an open relationship like I'm not texting other dudes on the side like that like all these crazy imagination things that they have going on it's just not happening no i get it and that's how jay and i are too it's like if you tell a man that they can't do something they're gonna want to fucking do it and they're gonna do it anyways you know so it's like why not and same with women if you tell us like hey i'm gonna be with you for

the next 20 years and you can only be with me like that's cute and all but we're still gonna have fantasies and we're still gonna want to fuck other people yeah and most people do and like people just don't want to admit that absolutely yeah and so i don't they're lying to their partners where we have more of an open communication yeah exactly and i feel like that builds a lot more trust you know like i don't sit around and tell adam like oh i wish i could suck so many dicks like i'm not saying it like that but it's more like never hey like if you're comfortable we should try this sometime you know and it's like it brings us together more after we you know open up our relationship with other people like we end up fucking so much more yeah turned on by that no i totally totally

understand so you guys are doing threesomes all the time too or it's not all the time we've slowed down a lot because you know he is in the country Music industry now But back in the day When we were first Starting to tour And he was a rapper Yeah we had so much Fucking fun

And we would have Threesomes all the time Now it's like We're in a different industry Where like You guys are doing it On camera Yeah

So nobody can say Oh you know This and this happened Or you know like Yeah So we've had to Kind of dial back Because you can't

You can't trust people Anymore Yeah You don't you know That's all we need Is fucking We pretty much Only do it on camera now which is like a little bit less exciting because you're constantly thinking about like opening up to the camera

like what you're saying that's gonna turn on the audience safer though it is definitely safer yeah all the testing and everything but yeah when we first started dating it was like we had a party we'd meet a cute girl yeah that's how we used to be yeah yeah exactly but now we've had to you know kind of chill on it just because you know people are so fucking lawsuit happy and the lies and yeah you know it's like it's a different world it's it's a me too world now whereas back in the day in 2016 through 2019 it wasn't that bad you know so all right so you guys are talking about threesomes the first night you guys met and then you guys just kind of hit it off and take me from there and it's funny because adam like i think looked at me as like a business project in the beginning because this is like this is before the adpocalypse on youtube so

you could be like a cute girl creator and just have a you know push-up bra on and make content and get millions of views and actually make money off of it. Right. Um, so he was like, we're going to make you a YouTube channel. So the YouTube channel was like his idea. Um, and we actually, one of the first videos that we did that went viral was like, I let my best friend have sex with my boyfriend and it was like our first threesome with my friend, Emily. Um, and God, it's just like, I feel like that was like such a younger version of me. I'm like, I can't believe I was doing all this dumb shit on YouTube.

But it's what made you guys. Yeah guys yeah you know and it was really us like yeah we were we were really gonna do it regardless of if we made the youtube video about it or not you know we just wanted to yeah you guys were smart to capitalize off of it though it's just so funny because that's like the only scene i've never filmed like we didn't film it off camera and every single day i think about how much money i left sitting on the table because i didn't really understand like right viral youtube video equals viral only fan scene or whatever because only fans wasn't even a thing back yeah only fans has been fucking crazy man i know it's been a game changer for all of us girls yeah like i don't have it anymore i retired in march because my husband decided to do country and i didn't want to be the only country music singer's wife with a fucking only fans thanks baby fuck that up for me i'd be like who else is down to do only

fans i know get all the wives together get trisha yearwood in there and shit oh god that'd be hilarious could you shout out trisha we love you um she's just the only other hot blonde i could think of um yeah that would be fucking hilarious but i mean of has been such a fucking game changer dude like it's i made fucking millions on and i know you have too and we're gonna get into that but of like really came in and changed the game so you were on private snapchat too or no i didn't do private snapchat snapchat i still was having a morality issue even though i was still hooking on the vegas strip i was like if i do, but I had this thing where it was like, if I do it behind closed doors,

it's not as bad. Whereas I feel like it probably would be different if I did it on camera. Like it would be better now if I had done it on camera. But I mean, I made so much fucking money, but I mean, yeah, you still get to be sort of like private.

Yeah. It's not like there's like a millions of screenshots of you sucking a dick. I wasn't ready to put my butthole on camera yeah i mean i feel that like god it's so funny because you know i've put really bad content online like when you're filming sex stuff especially in the beginning i wasn't really thinking about the lighting the angles i was just fucking and we were just filming it if you are your most vulnerable when you're getting plowed yeah period and i'm not looking cute i don't even know what was going on and then i went to avn a few times and like die hard fans have like printed out the fugliest screenshots of me and being like can you sign this please and i'm looking at it in

horror like this is what do you want this one like this picture like not like a polished photo of me yeah you're like could you please if i can get my good angles buddy have you ever used like the fish eye lens on your phone when you're sucking dick because it makes your head so long like a cling on yeah and I'm looking at it like I do my face doesn't actually look like this I look like I have a six head but okay I think you know dudes get off on the weirdest shit so I probably turns them on just any sort of like anything that's different but um so you and adam got together and you guys started building a brand together and like no jumper started taking off linda the plug the whole brand started taking off and now you guys are doing your own podcast show yeah called plug

talk where we interview our guests and then we fuck them at the end who came up with this idea i think it was i'm trying to remember how it actually came about it was like pandemic i'm pregnant only fans is going crazy i had already had it in like 2019 2018 but it was like going up during um the pandemic and everything adam was like how the fuck do i get involved in this you know like he's seeing it and he wants to be a part of it and then and then i think it was him who pitched the idea of doing the podcast with the scene at the end you know he was in all my scenes i was making money off of his dick right like i want a piece um and so we went and we did it together and we actually started filming them when i was pregnant and then we had to like wait till you guys started doing plug talk while you were pregnant i'm super pregnant

in like the first few episodes. You're a fucking savage girl. I love that you will get the bag at all costs. It doesn't matter. Like you're just like, let's go. But trying to suck dick when you're pregnant is so hard. Because you have a gag reflex? Such a bad gag reflex. It's like barely in your mouth and you're like, ugh.

Because all your organs are getting pushed up. But in those scenes, it's so funny because I i'm like you know we we hit up my friends basically for the first few episodes people we had already known really well too because no one really got the concept in the beginning like hey we're gonna do this podcast sex at the end whatever it was like hard for me to explain but when we were doing those first few scenes i was like listen i'm fucking tired can you please just just finish for me like i was like i'm like i'm gonna do light work here okay you're like i'm just here to show my face and just be a presence just please fuck my man and get this over with yeah I'm just like I just can't be on top anymore was there any ever any jealousy when you were pregnant like because I

know hormones are like going crazy and honestly I've heard people have like a lot of like moody issues when when being pregnant I didn't have that at all yeah I was like whatever drug this is I need it to be bottled up and given back to me when i'm postpartum because that's what mimi said when she was pregnant with her boy right was it with uh cash yeah the best like nothing would bother me like if adam said something like snarky so i'd be like okay whatever let's go like you're like i love you honey i love you didn't care at all at the pandemic i had i got pregnant february 2020 perfect time to be pregnant you don't really feel like there's any fomo like no one's doing shit you could just like take care of yourself be in the house i would go on like two hour long

walks every day i was feeling so good postpartum was another story not not good did you struggle with postpartum yeah i think part of it was that i didn't get like the delivery i wanted i was really trying to do like the delivery I wanted I was really trying to do like the home birth thing I was 43 weeks pregnant which you're supposed to be 40 weeks pregnant when you have your baby um so I ended up having a c-section at the hospital during the pandemic so I couldn't have like my team that I'd been during during the whole pregnancy I couldn't have any of them come to the hospital so and I got cut open. And then my C-section is like a crazy surgery that I did. Barbaric.

Mentally prepare myself for it all. And my incisions would just keep like opening up and like I'd have to go to the doctor. And then on top of that, you're taking care of this baby who doesn't sleep. Oh, and you're fucking tired and you're up at three. And dudes don't help for shit they sleep through everything yeah and i'm just like googling so every little last thing i'm like is it okay if they sleep with one eye closed like should i call the doctor like you know first time mom jitters yeah yeah are you gonna have another baby are you guys gonna because you guys make really cute

babies thank you um there's cute i want i don't want to have them but i want more and like would you say no i feel like i'm still breastfeeding my three-year-old daughter so i feel like i cannot give her three years of breast milk and then give my other baby nothing right i feel like it would be unfair right but it is it is hard with like our work because I feel like, OK, I would take off most of the pregnancy. A year, yeah. And then you need to take off postpartum because your body's getting back to normal. And that baby needs you 24-7. Yeah.

So part of me wants to retire and then have more babies. But I don't know when that's going to be. I was going to say, you guys are on such a high right now. Let's talk about I was gonna say you guys are on such a like a high right now let's talk about okay so you guys are doing plug talk you guys are kicking ass with that it's a huge podcast now I've watched it grow from like the beginning I think it's amazing thank you I didn't believe in it in the beginning I'm like no one's gonna watch this no one's gonna come to the party like that's me and Adam is just like this is gonna be the best fucking podcast ever and I like we need I need that like yeah I need someone to bring him down and i need someone to bring me

up yeah absolutely um so take me on your conversation where you guys because adam's been fucking different girls for years now yeah and that's you know like your guys's thing have you always wanted to sleep with other men or you just didn't know how to ask him? I wouldn't say always. Was it finally time? I think it was like maybe four or five years into it where I was kind of just like,

I know that I'm leaving something on the table by not doing something with another man because my fans have been asking for it for so long they're like hey we love you and Adam together but we really want to see you with someone else and obviously there was part of me that was like curious about it sexually but mostly from a business point of view I was like hey like I really want to do this for my OnlyFans and it was pretty much always a no like that is not on the table until eventually it was it was a yes and I can't really say like what exactly made Adam change his mind but I think

he probably saw the monetary value in it I think it like part of it is that he's always been a little open it's more like that the world is not open you know like during that whole we call the Jason Love saga like yeah he he was not painted in a nice way and even now it's like you know that's not your wife that's everyone's wife right that's how everyone sees him and it's because he's in the hip-hop space and everything where that's just like totally frowned upon anywhere else too it's not just the hip-hop yeah it's like so i think if it was not for those criticisms he probably would have been on board a lot earlier and you know adam and i actually had one threesome with another dude in our personal life like very early before we were like officially boyfriend

and girlfriend yeah we always thought it was hot yeah but i feel like adam didn't want to admit to himself that he thought it was hot because at the time we did that I was just some girl and then when I became like his woman it was like well is it wrong for me to actually want to do that to get off with my like primary like lover and not just some girl does he like watching you with other men I would say that he enjoys it even though maybe he doesn't always want to actually like admit it like that. Like I'm like your dick got harder. Like I know you enjoy it. It's in my mouth.

I feel it. Yeah. Us women know our men. Yes. I hate that everybody online is like calling him a cuck and stuff like that because it's like you guys are just literally having fun living out people's fantasies. And I feel like everybody's always trying to put people in a box. It's like everybody has to have a stereotype or some fucking sort of name. And it's just ridiculous.

It's also this like weird high school mentality where like if one person fucks one person, everyone's talking about it all the time. Right. All they could focus on like so-and-so and so-and-so fucked. Like I don't ever think about the fact that I have had sex with other men around. Like day-to-day, I'm not thinking about it. It's not this like thing that I carry with me but everyone else is carrying it with them like it's just something that we did once and then it

passed you know living my life you know have you always been into black men or how did you guys choose Jason Love like okay so the Jason thing wasn't like let's pick a black guy it was like I didn't know that many male porn stars and I had signed for Vixen at AVN a few times. So I had gotten to know Jason a little bit. And Adam had met him before. And I've only ever heard positive things about him from other girls in the industry. Like, he's super sweet, very respectful, whatever. And obviously, he's popular on social media.

So I was between two guys. And I ended up hitting up Jason. And Jason responded to me first. I didn't realize the black man thing was gonna be such a big deal I wasn't thinking about it yeah and I wasn't thinking about that at all and I had some of my girlfriends in the industry being like oh like you should charge a lot like this is your first like scene with a black guy and I'm like oh I just didn't think about it like that at all and I feel like the people who made the most commentary like that

were like other black people like how could you like adam how could you let your wife fuck another black man like coming from other black men i'm like why are we doing this like why do you care yeah like and why is there's no color it's all love but why is he so different like you know it's like oh i mean i guess it's not like once you go black you don't go back mentality that people are fearing like oh she's never she's never gonna be the same or whatever yeah but yeah I didn't think about it like that at all I wasn't like I'm gonna find a black guy I was like I'm gonna hit up Jason because I've met Jason and he's cool yeah um so you guys are doing all right let's talk about the Jason love thing so you got you the way you promoted it was insane. I watched it. I was like, she is so because I'm I'm very business savvy, too. So I just I watch how people do things. And the way you guys rolled it out was fucking perfect, dude. Like it was insane the way that you just teased it. And just the day that it dropped, like, take me on that. Okay. Take me on the set of the scene when you

had to go do it. Oh my God. Okay. So I didn't know that we were going to shoot that scene until the day before. Like, yeah. So I had asked Jason, if you would want to shoot a scene with me, let me know next time you're in LA. And it was like many weeks before and maybe like forgot, I don't know, but I was like on Instagram and it was a Saturday and I was like, oh shit, he's in LA. So I hit him up and I was like, Hey, like, how long are you here? He was like many weeks before and maybe like forgot. I don't know. But I was like on Instagram and it was a Saturday and I was like, oh, shit, he's in L.A. So I hit him up and I was like, hey, like, how long are you here? He was like, oh, I can shoot with you tomorrow. I was like, oh, fuck. OK.

Don't you love how dudes are just like, here's the dick on demand. Yeah. Like, all right. We're shooting tomorrow. And it was awkward for me because on the weekends, Adam and I don't work. We're family people and like hanging out as a family. And I was like, babe, I'm shooting this tomorrow. I have to go buy lingerie right now and it was kind of awkward i was like i have to leave this like family scenario which we always do family time and i have to like

go buy lingerie go buy heels go do all these things to sleep with another man and that felt weird for me was adam weird about it at all um honestly it wasn't a big conversation it was like hey uh jason's available tomorrow can i shoot and he was like okay and then like he probably had to work through some shit himself yeah he called me back two minutes later he's like hey come here i was like okay he's like don't kiss him and don't get a facial and i was like okay he's such a sagittarius my husband's a sagittarius and it's like they will never admit when they're jealous. They'll never show it

but it's like they'll do little things where it's like you know that something's bothering them. Yeah, like few words but you know there's something under there. Yeah. And then the next day I was going to go to shoot the scene

and I'm like, just bye. Bye. Like we didn't really talk about what was going to happen. He decided he was going to play poker all day online that day, which is like perfect thing for him to do because he's totally distracted. He loves poker.

That's how my husband is with video games. Oh, yeah. Just go do that. Yeah. I was so nervous. I was really, really, really nervous. Even though you've shot other scenes with girls and your husband. So, yeah, for me, it was different because I guess I felt guilt because it was always a no

in our relationship so the fact that it was like a yes you can you thought it was a setup kind of I was like a worried about the aftermath like what will this mean for our relationship I was excited for the scene but like also like I'm like well what if I don't do a good job he's like a professional you know like all these like insecurities and well What if I don't do a good job he's like A professional you know like all these Like insecurities and stuff And I actually wanted to get A lot more promo content but like once he Arrived on set I was so nervous I just like rushed

Through all of it I was like okay let's do this Okay let's do the scene and I remember I kept making so many Excuses for why like the scene couldn't start I was like I need another drink of water I'll be right back and just like Kept leaving and coming back And yeah I was Bad who shot the scene were you recording yourself? I didn't watch it. No, I had a filmer and he was like, you know, it's okay. Like this is gonna be fine. Like trying to talk me through it. My assistant like had been like out of town that weekend. So she couldn't

like be there for my moral support. And yeah, I was like, I don't have my girls. Like it was, it was scary for me. So how did you guys finally set the mood and just get was like I don't have my girls like it was it was scary for me so how did you guys finally set the mood and just get into it did you have to just kind of like buck up and be like all right I'm gonna put my big girl panties on yeah take my big girl panties off and yeah I was like okay I'm gonna suck another dick it's gonna be okay I'm like talking to myself while he's taking his pants off I'm like okay it's okay it's okay you're allowed to do this like I was given permission to do this. Was he the first dude that you had been with since you and Adam had gotten together? Yeah. So been like six or seven years. Yeah. Yeah. And I would have probably puked.

I get like panic attacks. So I would have just probably started puking. Like I would have been. And no one believes me. They're like, I'm sure you were so nervous when you were sucking that dick. I would have been so nervous. And no one believes me. They're like, I'm sure you were so nervous when you were sucking that dick. And I really was. Listen, my husband allows me to have little cabana boys if I want them. I don't because I'm so I talk so much shit. I'll be like, I need to go find me a cowboy or like talk shit, you know. And if it ever came down to it, I would probably run the other way just because once you've been in that comfort with somebody for so long, it's it's not like your dick crazy

you're not like oh my god i'm gonna go hop on this dick and like that's an energy exchange and now that i'm older too like i just am like i don't man what are you going through before i put your dick in me type situation you know so i i totally understand i would be completely nervous too i probably wouldn't have been able to do it yeah i mean just a few weeks before that i was out with a girlfriend and like these guys kept trying to dance with me. I was running to the other side of the room. I was terrified. We have no game, Linna. I was like, oh my god, oh my god, they're trying to dance with me.

She's like, it's OK. Just tell them to stop. I'm like, OK. You're like, I've been out of the game for so long. I don't know what to do. And that also shows that you respect your husband, though, too. Oh, for sure. Yeah, totally.

I mean, even so, our scene, we have a scene that's coming out tonight so by the time that you see the podcast it's out it's like we did this reality show for the love of lena and then there was a winner and the winner gets to fuck me with my husband i know ridiculous concept but we filmed the scene and it comes out tonight and when we were filming that scene it was so awkward for me in the beginning like adam is over there touching himself to get hard the guy's over there touching himself to get hard and i'm like not looking at the guy even though i'm supposed to have sex with him in like two minutes i'm like don't look at him don't like you know it's because you just want to make sure that you don't hurt adam's feelings which is what he does when we

work with other girls you know it's not like he's like looking into their eyes and telling them how gorgeous they are you know he's like we're doing a threesome or whatever but yeah so yeah it was just new territory for me and I was like okay like I don't fluff him I just fluff him and like yeah you know it was weird so you got the Jason love scene over with and it drops on OnlyFans take me on that ride because can I ask how much you made off that is that rude to ask no it's not rude to ask um i just want to know because i think it's fucking amazing i would say with the total like from all the months like of how much traffic that drove to my only fans i've probably made a million dollars off of that one scene um good for you mama yeah so that was a lot that's amazing you could retire if you want to and why

don't you i'm sure a lot of people have always wanted to ask you that you know i think when i was first postpartum i i was kind of thinking about it like i lost my instagram with three and a half million followers still never got it back so i felt like my identity was shattered in a way because i was like had this new identity of motherhood and like at the time so many only fans creators had come in and i was like you know how do you separate yourself and differentiate yourself from this sea of new creators and since i had lost like my one of my main sources of promotion i was kind of like well fuck should i just sit down like should it should be over and i was super emo at the time because all my hormones and stuff you know um but i guess i just really have to give it to adam you know like he is positive to a fault at times and he was really like he he took care of me you know like i had that probably that same conversation with him a hundred times crying about poor me poor me i lost my instagram nobody cares about me whatever like

all this kind of stuff and um if i didn't get through that with him i probably wouldn't have gotten to see this because you know there's a part of me that feels like oh shit like you're you're 30 something now and like i don't think that's old but in this industry yeah it's it's old yeah ageism is a really you know i'm 43 and people throw that in my face all the time like how is like we get older and people i love when people are like you you look older now it's like i've been online for eight years yeah it's like let me see me age yeah let me age but also like kim kardashian is 40 what 43 44 Angelina Jolie like some of the most beautiful women in the world are older women and it's like why is it okay for them to be beautiful but like

girls that are in the sex industry it's not a lot we're not allowed we have to literally stay 18 and 21 forever and I mean I feel like all the but a lot of the really popular girls are older I mean maybe they don't know their age but it's like you have to accrue some experience and then you get better like i i mean i look at angela white i don't know how old she is exactly but she's definitely like on the older end of the industry and she when you ask most people she is their favorite performer absolutely she's amazing she gives it her all every single day those jugs she killed it yeah beautiful oh one of my faves um but so i guess like i had all these thoughts in my head and then to see that i'm still able to do all this right now i kind of just want

to see where it goes which is why i'm not retired i really don't know when i'll want to especially like plug talk still feels so new yeah and if i retired like what would that become i don't i don't know i mean at some point i will have to retire and we'll have to see what that becomes, but yeah, I guess I just want to see where it goes from here. I always say never jump off a winning horse. Like, and maybe that's because I grew up in Vegas, but it's like, you guys have such a good thing right now and it's just going. Yeah. It's like, why, why end it now? You know? Yeah. And I'm still excited about it. Like every single day, you know, I don't want to wait until I'm making making until I have one fan on OnlyFans before I retire, but you know, maybe somewhere in the middle where I guess I want to retire. The Madonna of OnlyFans. When it doesn't like feel good anymore. Right.

You know, where I'm like, when it feels like a job. Yeah. Yeah. Being a mom in this industry, how do you navigate around that? And like like how do other moms treat you because i'm sure everybody that is around knows that is she in school yet she's not in school yet right she's in school and i have to say i'm always shit myself when there's like parent events at the school like i i find myself like trying not to talk to the other parents like as if as if there's like a big a on my forehead or something you got the scarlet letter yeah exactly um i need to work on it it's like i'm like mentally addressing this now i'm the same way with parents though too it's hard like i want them to like me but i like want them to know me as just a person before i sort of lay out what i do for work because then maybe i'll have a better

chance i don't know yeah um but i'm also lucky because I feel like a bunch of my friends in the industry are all having babies now. So maybe we could just have a little club. We literally hang out with your own little cult. Do you ever get scared? Because I feel do you feel I feel like women that are in the industry, their children get targeted more online. Like I noticed you guys started crossing out Parker's face and stuff like that which I

kudos to you because I think that's amazing she's a beautiful little girl too and there's so many creeps in this world honestly so I'm a little sad about it because I was making like one minute vlogs with her every day that I was posting on like a mom could you blur could you blur her face out I did like one vlog maybe a month ago where i felt i had adam film everything from the back we went to see taylor swift we love taylor swift um but so i'm not making that content anymore which for me is sad because i would like upload all that to dropbox i was like these are making tech talks but these are like family memories you know and so we're not posting her anymore mostly because during that whole jason love thing people were

just posting photos of her on twitter and going viral with like many millions of views being like this poor kid yeah and to me that's over the line yeah you know like absolutely that happened with i posted a halloween picture with bailey my bonus baby she's 60 she'll be 16 next year and but uh it went by kind of viral on tiktok or on um twitter and i was just like it scared me i was like that is disgusting it feels disturbing to look at that picture and be like wow there's so many eyeballs on it and for like a negative reason connotation yeah um and i'm glad that she's not like old enough to see it and read it and all that but it's like what okay let's just let's just stop this now i don't want to see where this goes kind of thing um when she gets older are you gonna be open with her about your

lifestyle I mean I'm probably not gonna like be like hey we're gonna have threesome this weekend but yeah but I mean for sure yeah I will definitely be honest with her because I don't I'm not ashamed about what I do and I don't feel bad it. I have worries about how other people might treat me or treat her because of it. And for that, I guess I'll feel a little sad if someone's like, oh, I can't be friends with you because my mom doesn't like your mom. That will suck. But I feel like the life lesson behind that will be that we don't want to be friends with people who just don't understand us.

Absolutely. That happened with um our daughter and us we she's been told so many times like you can't go over their house because we don't like their parents or it um it was really bad in the beginning um when she was in like elementary and junior high it was like oh your mom's your mom's a porn star your dad's this and blah blah blah and then now that she's in high school we're like the coolest parents ever so it's like you guys will go through it but i promise you when they get to high school it's a complete parents still have a problem no no no everybody loves us like it's just so crazy now i have problems with parents i'm like now i get to be choosy about who our

kid hangs out with you know i feel like people are gonna think like oh she must be a bad mom just because she does this for work and i i'm not like strict, but I'm stern. Yeah. Well, you have to be because I'm sure Adam's going to be fun dad because my husband is fun dad. No, it pisses me off. I'm like you need. And because Parker's a little girl, she's always going to be like putty in his hands, you know, because that's how Bailey is with Jay. And sometimes I'm like, dude, you need to get mean with her.

The only way she's going to straighten out is if you use that certain tone of voice, you know. So, yeah, we're the ones who have to kind of like make the rules so that they stick by. I know. And then they're mad at you, but then they always come to you and they need something. Yes, absolutely. It's good cop, bad cop. It works out. Yeah, I promise. I'm like, fuck Selena Powell. Let's talk about this situation. So you let Adam fuck her for his first scene was that a real thing or what was that about so she wanted to come back on plug talk and she

wanted to work with adam and i was like i don't want to be part of this scene not because i i like don't like her or anything but because she has told me that she doesn't really like having sex with girls right so when i hear something like that i'm like well like i'm sure a lot of the girls i fuck don't like having sex with girls but they didn't tell me right so i'm like you you got that with my husband like i have i have no beef with her she still scares me because i never know if it might flip we've had a semi-tumultuous relationship yeah a little unpredictable well right now we're on good terms. It started out with her like wanting Adam, right?

Or something like that. And I'm sure it was a joke. I don't know the whole story. She kept saying that she doesn't even like white guys. I was going to say, I don't think she does like white dudes. No, so I think this was her first scene with a white guy is what she was saying. Yeah.

Yeah, she was like, oh, white guys. I was like, you're about to flick my husband. So they did the scene by themselves. They did this. I was there. I was on my husband. So they did the scene by themselves. They did this. I was there. I was on set that day. We did all the photos together.

We made some TikToks. And then, yeah, I was like, OK, go have fun. They went in the other room together. How did Adam feel? Was that weird for him because you weren't there? Because that was like, does he fuck other girls without you at all? No. No, I guess that was, I always forget that that happened. But yeah, no, that's that.

He's done it twice. Right. Once I made a girl feel bad because she was going to cancel on us. I was like, don't cancel. We have the whole team booked. And she flew to LA to do a scene for plug talk. And I woke up with food poisoning. Oh no.

So I was like, Adam, I'm so sorry. You have to take one for the team. You have to fuck her. Adam's like, shucks. Shucks, babe. I know. And he comes like, he's like oh it was okay like I just act I'm like just you had fun it's okay you know like it's okay I was puking

my guts out like it's okay but I felt I didn't want to cancel on her when I like you know made her come to set so so was that like did Adam want to have sex with Selena or did he think it was going to be a good marketing strategy was it I think it was both yeah I think part of him was like well I've known her for years Adam would prefer to fuck everyone he knows yeah he likes to say he wants to get all the awkward tension out of the way yeah and then you can just be normal friends um so yeah throughout the years he's always like yeah like like we can do something with selena and i was like i don't know because i like was always afraid of her like yeah she doesn't really have the best rep online so i was always afraid like what will it do to me if i have sex with her yeah but she's been wanting to come on

the podcast but she scares me too i'm like i don't know selena she'd be a fun guest um but yeah i mean we've had our rough patches i would say but yeah i think uh part of it was the marketing thing with adam and then yeah he he wanted to fuck her gotcha because i was just like out of all the girls like that you guys can have your fucking pick of the litter i was like he picked selena so i just he won't tell me who he wants though he'll never be like oh i want this girl like no i can tell because he'll mention a girl one too many times but he'll never like be so forward right one time accidentally posted his porn of search history on instagram like and i had to be like yo did you see what

you just posted on your story what was it um he was looking up our friend true kate when he was jerking off but like i he will never tell me which girls he thinks are prettier or whatever so like he one time exposed himself and i was like you think kate is hot oh i've never seen her what is she blonde brunette no she has brown hair she's very pretty. Most people say about her that she doesn't look like she does porn. Like she just looks like a innocent girl who would work at the bank or something. And I guess that's the type that my husband's into to like innocent, like young looking, not young. That sounds so terrible.

But like, like pure. Is that what I'm trying to say? Like, it doesn't look like a slut. I guess you could say. Do you feel offended by that, though? Because no, no, I don't feel offended. I'm not my husband's type. I tell everybody that I've never been jay's type he's never been my type ever he loves tiny brunettes and i talk about this on the podcast all the time but he likes super tiny

brunettes i love goth dudes i like dudes that wear makeup that are musicians like that's my jam you know so we're like complete each other's complete opposite but it fucking works and i love him to death and he loves me and it's so funny like i don't i don't know if i could handle it if i knew that like like i always in my head like make it up that he wants like a 90 pound asian girl like in my head i'm like he wants someone that's not me but i feel like i just made that up to piss myself yeah but i don't know what he actually wants do you what is his type do you know his type i feel like he dated goth girls in high school so probably part of him is still into that like you know and he has all these tattoos so when we have girls on set who have tattoos it was like

she looks like she's supposed to be my girlfriend he'll make jokes like that i'm like yeah i don't i don't look like you know your type or whatever but what's don't look like your type or whatever. But what's your type? Is Adam your type? I wouldn't say Adam was my type. I don't know what my type was at the time. I had a girlfriend for four years, just a couple years before I met Adam. And that was my most recent relationship. I feel like my type was just whoever I fall for.

And I ended up falling for Adam. And I probably wouldn't have expected his look. Do you prefer women over men? terms of their company yes absolutely you know i did i agree with you 100 but like sexually because you said you were in a relationship for four years how did that even begin like how did you know that you know you were like i because being in a relationship with another woman you gotta have some fucking strength dude I'm too violent for that. What? If we got in an argument and she popped off, we'd be wrestling.

Oh, my God. No. I've never, like, had a screaming match with anyone. Like, even Adam. It was like, I'm so peaceful. Yeah, I'm the kind of person that, like, me and Adam fight. We will walk away and then an hour later we'll be texting each other like the whole fight that's how I am now but back in the

day I just there's no way because I just feel like I don't know like I just feel like being in a relationship with another female would be like being with like I don't want to say a sister because that sounds so weird but like it would it would be like i don't know like the boundary how do you draw that boundary with somebody of like so long ago now that i can't even remember like any of our fights but we started as best friends who would make out when we were drunk yeah and then we were just like this feels good like let's do it and we didn't really think much about it four years is a long time no we were yeah four i know it was like all the whole time I was in college and also where I was at college like it was very um lgbtq friendly and so many of the people in my friend group ended up coming out like we were just like a group with like queers and gays and lesbians and

we didn't question it we were just like doing it no one was like so how long have you been gay it was just like this just feels good we're just fucking doing it and that's like where i was in my life um and i mean i i do feel like it ended because i wanted to be with men as well yeah so i do feel like i'm more sexually attracted to men but i love being with women yeah i love the way women touch me like when we're doing girl girl stuff and you know just they're softer than men so you get to like have your cake and eat it too exactly exactly so tell me about this tv show that you guys made oh i would love to hear about this it is so ridiculous if you get a chance to watch it it is pretty entertaining um i love how self-aware you are though and that you laugh at things and you know it's so ridiculous like okay because after the whole Jason Love thing which honestly did not

think it was going to be as big as it was I was like I hope I make an extra 50k that was literally my mind process I love that and then you get surprised that's how I was when I first got on OF I was like I'll just make 10 grand I was like really low balling it and then fucking yeah I don't I want to expect that my expectations low yeah and then be really excited so you're wowed yeah um so after we saw that we were kind of we'll just like oh all these people are paying attention to this thing that like we especially people in the porn industry like are you fucking kidding me they're getting attention because she fucked another guy like we do this shit every single day yeah but we sort of

were like let's play into that you guys did it right though you guys you know like capital waited until we got married well people are like why did they do this right after i feel like you guys turned up after parker like i feel like after you had the baby you kind of took a little time off and then you fucking came out the gate like ready to roll well we had all the plug talk episodes in the can yeah i was pregnant and then once i had her a few months later we dropped them all so it was like plug talk sort of took off right after that. Um, but yeah, I mean, honestly, as, as mastermindy as I look, like it kind of all just happened in a way, you know, like the, the people made the memes. I didn't make the memes. Like I just posted the content and they made it go crazy. And so coming off of that, we were kind of like, Adam was like,

well, now I'm open to doing like a boy, boy with you and i was like let's do a youtube video like a funny youtube video where we have like 10 contestants and we see like who the winner will be to be in the threesome with us and then he was like no let's do a fucking reality show series like we just sort of had this brainstorm and then we hired like a really legit production company um and actually turned it into a really funny tv show do you guys have people trying to buy the show from you? No, we have it on YouTube. We didn't even, we've never really tried to like partner that much because at least me personally, I'm always like, well, I do porn.

No one's going to want to fuck with me. Right. You know, and that's the great thing about having a platform like YouTube and we put it out on your jumper and they have a bunch of subs, you know, so we were able to do it ourselves. But maybe if we do a season two and we get approached or something, we could. Yeah. Do it with the company.

I feel like the world is a lot more open now than there's a lot more networks. You know, it's not like Netflix doesn't want it, but there's like other Zeus and like all those other ones. Yeah, exactly. But would you guys be open to signing on to do a reality show? Because you lose you lose your i don't want to say authenticity but you lose the control also yeah and i i don't i don't like people controlling the narrative of our family and my fear with real reality shows is that they want you to be really really drama filled and like yeah adam and i don't fight that much like i feel like we got a bunch of our fights

out in the beginning and then after parker was born when we were like learning how to parent together but i feel like for the most part we get everything until maybe another wrench gets thrown into our relationship so we would have to fake a lot that's a real relationship though is like you know you guys are gonna hit little you know waves but it's like it's how you guys navigate through them and how you guys learn together that's what a relationship is all about yeah and i feel like that's not good for you yeah no for sure yeah because they want me to like throw a bottle in his face yeah you know so that's toxic it would have to be the right reality show because i wouldn't it would be really hard for me to not

be myself right you know um yeah i can't i can't imagine it i'm trying to picture it like so take me on this show so you had what seven guys we had i think there was 10 of them in the beginning and we had like adult performers and some comedians you know for comedic effect um and we filmed it over two days so we got four episodes out of two days we all were in a house doing all of these like competitions like tug of war like that's a grilling schedule like that's a grilling schedule to shoot a whole show in two days like that yeah um it was fun it was really fun i was like oh 10 guys battle for me ha ha like i'm the prize this is so fun you know was there ever any jealousy on adam's part during that did you guys like when you guys

lay down in bed do you guys ever just kind of like talk about like the day and like how you guys are feeling and stuff like that for sure always um trying to think if there was any jealousy i mean i had to like turn it up with the guys like i was flirting with them on set and everything and he he kind of he got it like he didn't want to be around for it on set he was like you go to your thing i'm not gonna watch but then like when the footage all came i was like hey just so you know like in this scene i like i like get pretty like feisty with the dudes like you know you're gonna watch this and he's like okay okay like puts on his strong man hat he's like it's for tv it's for the content like yes it's for the content you know, yes, it's for the content, you know? Yeah, for sure. And then, so you guys have a winner.

And the episode's dropping tonight. The episode to announce the winner came out on Monday. So all four episodes of the series are out. And then we filmed a scene with the winner. And that comes out tonight. And does that get shown on your OnlyFans? On the Plug Talk OnlyFans. OK, gotcha.

Yeah, we did an interview with him. And then we did the scene at the end. So just like a regular Plug Talk, with two guys which we've i don't think we've ever done that before how was the scene how how did the scene go do you hook up with both of them at the same time yes okay which it's hard because your mouth is never open to talk so you're just like getting fucked yeah um i'm just like sandwiched between them and i'm like i hope this looks hot it feels good yeah but i'm like squished so i hope it looks really hot um it was interesting it was like it was something new to navigate within our relationship right

because we do these orgies for plug talk like live orgies what we're just turning the camera on and we have a bunch of people fucking and i don't participate with the other guys like i just fuck adam but i'm always trying not to look at them right your husband that's got to be so confusing because there's so many sounds and like just people and sometimes where do you look i like watching porn i just want to watch them but then i don't want the camera to capture me watching because then they're gonna think they're gonna be like oh lena wishes she was fucking that guy like you know i'm just always thinking about the feedback um but then we're in this setting and it's me adam and the winner who's little d everyone knows that now um and he's like you know he's jerking off and adam jerking off

i'm helping adam get hard and then he's over there and i'm like can i help him over there like you know it's just like this new territory um and i think i think adam was really into it so i'm looking forward to more i love that even though you sexualize yourself do you ever get tired of being over sexualized because i've had moments where i'm like okay i'm done posting shit like this like i'm gonna post i've i've kind of completely changed my Instagram over from, you know, being, uh, the thought queen to like, now I'm fully clothed and like shooting more comedic comments, uh, content and stuff like that. But then, you know, I'll get a wild hair at my ass and I'll be like, you know what?

I miss, I miss the ho days. I want to post, you know, a naked photo. And then it shocks my new fan base. They're like, oh my God, put your clothes on. Why does your husband let you dress up? You know, do you ever just get tired of being over-sexualized? Um, I feel like I've put things into place that help me not feel that way. Like having the other Instagram and then, you know, when I had touchy subject very temporarily, but yeah, I agree. Like with plug talk, I always find myself holding back on certain questions that are

maybe like a little bit more human about the girl, like where I just really want to get to know them on a deeper level. But because the podcast is to jerk off to, it goes on OnlyFans, we keep it like a little more surface level and horny and whatever. And so in that sense, yeah, I'm like, oh, oh well i'm not showing my true self or maybe they would learn a little bit more about me but i have to play this sexual character and that's part of what where the idea for touchy subject had come from originally because i was like i will have more questions like i want to know more what about like in your everyday life is there ever times

that you're just like god i don't want to shoot this scene or I don't want to be touched this week? Or is there ever a moment like that that ever crosses your mind? Yeah, I would say like when I overbook myself, sometimes we're shooting one or two times a week and then some weeks it just happens so that we're shooting five or six times that week because, you know, certain girls were in town and we had to get them on the schedule. And those weeks, I'm like, I feel like the fun is getting sucked out of it a little. It's becoming like a routine. And then I'm not having sex outside on my personal life. Because I'm like, I already got fucked so much. I'm good. So on those weeks, which we try not to do. We try to keep it less frequent.

So it is really exciting every single time. And we can make the girls always feel special during their interviews and things like that. So yeah. I don't want to get dolled up every single day yeah no trust me i get i i tell them all the time i now know why britney spears shaved her head because there's some weeks that i'm like i don't want to fucking do hair and makeup i don't want to be in front of a camera but you know it's like we chose this life and we're so thankful and we're so blessed for it yeah but i'm really like it's december really looking forward to slowing down like i want to stay in my house and get really good at making sugar cookies yeah i feel like every year i try to do them and i fuck them up like i want

to get better i can't bake for shit i can cook a fucking meal i can't bake hard it's scientific like i swear to god like you have to really measure shit and i don't got the patience for that i've been reading i'm doing a lot of research. I like bought, bought special pans and special sugar and I'm going to try. You're going to do it. You're going to crush it. I want to get good at it. What can we expect from you guys coming up in the future? Oh God. I honestly don't even know. Like I didn't know that the things that happened this year were going to happen. And I feel like I've been doing so much that I haven't been able to just sit with myself and like have purpose in a way like let's think purposefully about our life like what do we want and I'm I have it in my calendar to do that this month like because the next year

is coming yep um and this year was such a roller coaster but I didn't think I would have been able to accomplish the things that I did this year and that's kind of given me the confidence and the motivation to be like, OK, what the fuck else can we do? Let's brainstorm. Let's get this. Let's do it. So I feel like there's like a new fire and I'm excited to see what happens next year. I don't know what it is yet, but there will be things coming. I love that. You know what I do with my family every year? And this is just an idea for maybe you, Adam and Parker to do together every year. I have I make the family and I say make because I had to

start out by making them and now they look forward to it we make vision boards and every year we get like a pile of magazines we sit at the dinner table we talk about the year and we just cut out what we want for our vision board and then we write our goals on the back that's really cute at the end of the year we go back and we revisit last year's vision boards and then we make the next year's vision boards and I where do you put yours because i'm like i don't want anyone to see i i put them behind a mirror so i'll put them behind the mirror so that i always know that they'll be safe because we have this huge like mirror in our living room uh dining room and i'll just put all of ours together and i put them behind the mirror and then we just bring them back out the next year

or you know the end of the year i always want to leave like little notes to myself like all over like my mirror and then i'm like people are going to see these yeah they're going to make fun of me like my housekeeper she's like cleaning the glass reading my notes but it's like affirmations and those are good for you people you need that you need to wake up in the morning and have an affirmation or a goal or something like that there's something wrong with that everybody it's your house if you want to leave them everywhere leave them lena thank you for coming on why don't you tell people where to find you online if they haven't aren't already following you and also shout out your only fans your youtube adam's podcast all that stuff you guys's podcast too this one by so fast

i can sit here for like three hours um my instagram is free lena the plug lena the plug on twitter and tiktok and we are plug talk Show on OnlyFans as well. If you want to check out Plug Talk and everything we just talked about. Thank you so much. Thank you. I appreciate you so much.

And thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.