Dumb Blonde - Leo Skepi Is Your Authentic Guru

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

The beautiful Leo Skepi comes to shine his light this week. Leo is the rising star and host of the Aware and Aggravated podcast, quickly climbing up the charts and providing insight on everyt...hing from relationships, family, education, finance and more. Leo talks with Bunnie about his own self transformation and rising like a gorgeous phoenix after family drama and toxic relationships. Leo Skepi: Aware and Aggravated TikTok Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars. Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I have my brand new bestie in the house. I know you guys love him online.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I love him online and meeting him in person. He smells really fucking good and he is a tall glass of water. Leo, baby, what is up? Hi baby. I'm so excited to be here. Dude, I'm so happy you're here. I did not know you were a Texas boy. I was born in Florida, but I just moved to Houston. Oh, okay. So how long have you been in Houston? Houston because I'm from Houston I'm coming up on a year oh wow and I'm already sick of it oh really I was just that was my next question why are you sick of it I just feel like I've outgrown it yeah and I don't mean to like be like a egotistical asshole but like the opportunities there they don't excite me I like to be scared I like to feel like I'm intimidated by an opportunity and I don't feel that like LA is where I'm moving to in July.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Oh, wow. Plot twist. I haven't told anyone that. Wow, that's crazy. I'm moving because like that's the shit that makes me scared. So I grew up on the West Coast. And if I could give you any advice before you go to LA and I don't want to crush your dreams, I feel LA has lost its sparkle.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's not like it used to be. Yeah. I don't know how much time you've spent out there but like i grew up la vegas so it's like back in the day that was it was like so cool and now i feel like every time i go there like i really feel like it's just like a city of lost souls if that makes sense so i don't know but i do not to be a dream killer but no i literally went there for six days for a trip and i was like oh i love it here i come i love it well then go baby go it was more like the people that i met yeah that made it the experience there were some fake people you can just smell it a lot of people say la is fake there's all this and that like if
Starting point is 00:05:14 you don't have a good judge of character of course but i can kind of like just like smell it no i think you can see through people's bullshit for sure so i fell in love with you on tikt. I think you came across my page and I was like, who is this fine ass motherfucker? I was like, he is beautiful. But not only just your looks, your just how you are on the inside is what's so beautiful to me and like what drew me in with you. And then as I started watching you, I was like, oh, my God, I need to have him on the podcast. And then I saw how many other people love you. then I found out you had a podcast let's talk about your podcast yeah my podcast I'm the first gay person to chart number one in education I love that which is huge like I get chills talking about it like I my nipples are so hard yeah like it's it's insane but like that podcast I literally started it from
Starting point is 00:06:00 my dad's closet like I just had my phone it's funny in the closet but i just started like with my phone in the closet like propped up on a shelf and i would just talk shit and i would just share like anything i've learned and knew about life that i couldn't find when i was like struggling and then it just like snowballed and i've been doing it for like a year and a half in the past three months it is blown up and now i'm not in the closet no more literally or figuratively isn't it crazy how podcasts can be so therapeutic oh I love it I suffer from really bad mental health I have really bad anxiety and like suicidal ideation and stuff like that which we just had told me that you had about with that and I've been doing my podcast for five years and
Starting point is 00:06:42 it's been one of the most therapeutic things I've ever done. It really helped me kind of come out of my shell. Yeah. Mine kind of is like sharing what I've learned, but it like heals me in a weird way by like sharing what I've been through and sharing how I've overcome it. I learn a lot of things and it's like my own little therapy, but I'm the therapist and the client. Right. You control the narrative. I totally understand. It's so nice, but I fully fully get it and there's been multiple times where the things that i say i always speak to my younger self in my podcast so my messages are very harsh and direct and harsh truths and it's like i baby you when it's necessary and then i tell you to get off your fucking ass and quit being a bitch i think people need that though yeah but like there's so
Starting point is 00:07:22 many times where i'll say certain things that i needed to hear so bad. And when I'm editing it back, I'll just start fucking bawling like a baby. And I'm like hearing like myself say it, hearing anyone say it was just like, Whoa. But like, I have those moments. I love it. Yeah. I love that too. I love listening to you because you are so kind of poetic with your words too. You draw people in. Let's rewind it though. I want to know more about you, like where you came from, like growing up. I want to know about childhood traumas. I want to know all about Leo and how I want to pronounce your last name. How do I say it? Is it Skeppy? Yes. Okay. I wanted to make sure I said it right. I want to know all about Leo Skeppy. So where was Leo born? Pensacola, Florida. Okay. Well, every time i say i'm from florida people are like
Starting point is 00:08:05 oh miami i'm like the absolute opposite end of it in the worst spot pensacola is right next to alabama but it's also right next to the beach right so you get so many different dynamics of people like you have like the little city people it's like there's certain areas that are like ghetto as hell like the murder rate and the crime rate is so bad and then you have like the hicks and like the country people from alabama who don't mind their fucking business right and so i have like that and then you have like the beach people and it's like it just was a melting pot but it contributed to me being who i am like i got it all did you grow up there like your whole life okay so that's where you grew up and then were you raised by mom and dad yes so my dad is albanian and my mom is white that's where your intensity comes from yes
Starting point is 00:08:47 albanian my mom moved in with my dad and his family at 16 when they met so she was raised as an albanian girl so she has all the morals traits values so that's kind of like how it's like i she's white but i was raised raised in a traditionally Albanian household. And nuts. Was it super strict growing up or super religious? Not really. But I don't know how to explain it. It wasn't bad. You're just raised.
Starting point is 00:09:17 The way you can explain the Albanian way of life and culture is it's the all the morals and values of like the mob mafia lifestyle are instilled in everyday people so like the loyalty respect all of that is like very high held absolutely that's how you're judged i grew up with a bunch of chaldeans in vegas and that's how they operate too yeah like there's no betrayal there's no nothing and if you cross one you cross all yeah so everybody will come at you like that's just that's how they operate too. Yeah, like there's no betrayal, there's no nothing. And if you cross one, you cross all. Yeah. So everybody will come at you. Like that's just, that's the way I can explain Albanian culture. But like the biggest thing for me, kind of with all that,
Starting point is 00:09:55 back to my past and all that shit, I got bullied in high school. I was fat, I was ugly, I was all that. But the biggest thing with the Albanian culture is the most, like the biggest disgrace and the worst thing you can do is be gay. Oh. And here I am. Were you always, did you, when you were a baby, not a baby, but like, you know, growing up, did you always, were you always attracted to boys or did something happen? Like was something traumatic or?
Starting point is 00:10:22 I wish it was that simple. Like I wish something like something just fucked up happened to me no it was kind of like a battle with my sexuality and i started getting feelings for guys at a younger age like middle school type but i was like no they're just my friends right and i was like looking at them a little different and i would just shut it down in my head i was humping girls when i was five. I mean, listen, I was a horny little goat. It's all right. I love it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I think it just is something. But the thing is, I don't consider myself gay because I love men. I need penetration. But I also appreciate women. So it's like, does that make me bi? I don't know. I think everybody wants a label.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And it's just like, just be who you are. Love who you love i know i'm like that i wish i wasn't gay but i'm just a faggot i can't help it like i like men but i don't like little sissy men right i like tough men we're gonna get into that because when i first saw you i was like he is so fucking hot so i would think that women would try to like turn you out because you're so masculine but you're're so in touch with your feelings. And you're like a dream guy for every girl. Every woman's probably like, I am so confused watching this man every day.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, I have a lot of people that try and convert me and sway me. But one thing that I do do is I don't... He said that so calmly. He said, I do have a lot of people who try to convert me and sway me. Yeah, but I do like to make out with my girlfriends i love kissing girls i love being affectionate but when it comes to sex it's like that's i need the masculinity yeah it would just be so easy if i was straight so easy i mean but if you love who you love you know it's like me i like to make out with girls whenever i'm drunk or like I'm going out to, you know, but I need a man to fucking toss me around.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So let's bring it back. You said in high and junior high school is when you started noticing that you were attracted to boys and stuff like that. Take me on that journey because you're in this really, you know, I don't want to say strict Albanian lifestyle, but, you know, you were raised in a certain way where that's, it wasn't acceptable. Yeah. So I had the thoughts, but I immediately just shut them down. Like even like, as I got into high school, I was more like, okay, I am 100% into guys. Like I know it, but I was like, that will never come out of me. I will never act on it i will never do anything i will that's not a potential so don't even think that way and i just shut it down inside myself do you think you did that because of how you were raised or because you were like okay and like for me that someone
Starting point is 00:12:54 looks that looks like me and behaves like me and is from where i'm from that's i never in my life thought i would come out ever and just like like to have, like, I'm such a contradiction, like the typical gay I'm not. Right. And the typical straight dude, I'm not, like, I don't, I've never felt a sense of belonging or felt like I've fit in. So I don't know why I thought I'd have like an easy time with sexuality, but I don't fit any kind of like stereotype. Right. And I like it now. No, I love that though. Damn challenge to get here. stereotype right and i like it now no i love that though damn challenge to get here so it's when you finally did this were you close with your dad and close with your mom or how was that relationship and do you have brothers and sisters yes my sister's okay yeah yeah so i have a sister and
Starting point is 00:13:37 my parents my relationship with my parents has been back and forth like they got well they started getting divorced when i was like a child but it strung out in court and it was like an absolute shit show and it was just like a lot of like things kids shouldn't know oh we were told and we had to make adult decisions from a young age and it was like like the loyalty thing when you showed appreciation or cared about one parent the other parent took it as a betrayal so it was very hard to navigate like i came from fucking both of you yeah and you want me to pick it's like it's one parent was always pushing more of the picking but it wasn't really it was just a lot to take in right and it was hectic with that
Starting point is 00:14:21 but what was the question i got off track no i mean i was just saying were you close to your parents yes i was close with them but we had our i've cut both of them off at multiple points like i've stopped talking to both of my parents i fucked up sometimes they fucked up sometimes it just was back and forth but now i'm in a place where we're good right so yeah like everything happened how it had to and we wouldn't be where we are. Isn't it so crazy how dysfunctional all of our parents are? Like every every one of us sitting in this room fucking besides the two that you know that share parents. It's like we all have dysfunctional ass parents, you know, like they just did not heal. They were the generation that
Starting point is 00:14:59 chose not to heal. And I feel like we're the generation that has came in and we're like, bro, we are going to fuck shit up and we we're gonna change this shit no matter what the genetic dna fucking trauma we are just changing this shit and i love that for all of us yeah i think the biggest thing with that kind of perspective on it is our parents they had they feel things they don't like certain shit they don't follow the way that they feel they don't care that they're uncomfortable they'll just suck it up and just deal with shit yeah our generation is like okay why am i upset right do i actually have to continue doing this right we started questioning shit yeah and it's like we don't actually have to do this like to live a
Starting point is 00:15:39 miserable life no no not doing it yeah so when did you come out to your parents was it after high school so he's like i'm about to get uncomfortable i am sweating already oh take a drink take a drink of your shit a drink and a cigarette you have a shot we have truly's truly's have vodka and i'm right i don't know i've never drank one i'm sober so I don't drink them I know when I found out you didn't drink I was like oh fuck ah I had to okay I listen it was bad I was fucking popping pills and fucking drinking bottles of vodka by myself it was a thing I grew up in Vegas okay like I lived the biggest lifestyle okay so I have to talk about kind of coming to terms with my sexuality a little first because i went from like okay i know that i'm into guys but i will never act on it and then i started
Starting point is 00:16:31 seeing a therapist and i was like i love that you were that young and you were so conscious to go see a therapist yeah i was like 19 wow the reason i went to a therapist is because i hadn't cried since i'm like 12. So I was like 19 and I was like, why don't I feel the emotion of sadness? Like I don't feel sad. I get pissed off or I'm happy. Why do you think that was? Or did you come to a conclusion of why that was?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Sad and being hurt in any way was looked at as a weakness. So I completely cut off from that part of myself. i would feel numb pissed off or happy and i got such like a deep pit of like that numbness one time i was like i'm having all these like traumatic ass things happen to me and i don't cry i was like what the hell's going on yeah so i'm like 19 i'm like oh how i made money was another story oh we're gonna we're gonna talk about that. Don't think you're getting out of that. Were you already doing that in high school? I thought maybe that would be after.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But were you you said some traumatic things were happening to you. What are some of those traumatic things that were going on that you weren't reacting to? OK, so like everything going on with my parents, betrayals from other family members, trying to be killed by a few people. One was family. Why? crazy shit albanian shit um my stepdad was extremely i don't know how to explain him and the dynamic of him but he was like extremely abusive and prepared me for life like he was an ex-con had murdered a bunch of people served his time got out still operated from the prison mentality so he was like it's hard to break that oh you can't break it it's like when people come back from war yeah once you get your brain's completely altered like when you see the world in that way you can't forget it so like he knew how
Starting point is 00:18:24 dark the world was and he wanted to prepare't forget it so like he knew how dark the world was and he wanted to prepare me for it but what he did to me was like do everything to me that could be done to prepare me so like anything you can imagine like went through it like he had like choked me out put a gun to my head like attacked me when i was sleeping multiple times so i was always ready even while i'm asleep like people will come up to me now and like try to put a blanket on me when i'm sleeping and my body just like i start like swinging just out of like did you ever suffer from like anxiety and stuff like that just that was the least of my worries anxiety depression yeah yeah he's like bitch i'm trying to
Starting point is 00:18:59 survive right like all of that was there but like that was a lot of it and then he died did he ever sexually abuse you no okay luckily yeah i mean he did everything else at that point i could have handled it god that's terrible though how old were you going through that i was it was like 16 to 18 that's so fucked up and did your mom know that was happening? Not really. But he was abusing the hell out of her too. So like he was doing similar like abusive things to her. So we were both like trapped together. And a lot of weird shit with that. But he died.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Like tragically. Karma. He was going like 150 miles an hour on a bike. He had a Hayabusa and he would trick it out to go like 300 miles an hour. He was going like 150 and a car pulled out when he was going down some like, I don't know if it was a freeway or whatever the fuck it was. Like he pulled out, someone pulled out and he hit them and he flew like 60 feet in the air.
Starting point is 00:20:00 His head came off in his helmet. He was laying on the side of the road. Yeah. That was like a big thing. I didn't cry for like a few months. i mean that's kind of warranted the dude fucking traumatized you you know but i loved him so much he had a trauma bond with him it's weird yeah like he i know he hurt me in so many ways but like his intention was to help me and prepare me so i know you fucked me up a lot, but I could take
Starting point is 00:20:27 on anything in this world now. I have no fear. Yeah. And I don't say that lightly. I think it's beautiful that you look at it that way. I really do. And I understand it because I was in a severely domestic violence relationship and it has taken me years to cut that cord with the person who hurt me the most physically and emotionally. So I totally understand. Um, the way that you're looking at it is beautiful though. And it's inspiring because most kids who would be in that situation would, I don't want to say feel sorry for themselves, but would internalize that and it would come out in other ways. So I think for you to be able to look at it and kind of make it into a positive is a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah. The real thing that made me flip my perspective on it was when he died, it's like he was this thing that was untouchable. Like no one can hurt him. No one could touch him. I had seen him get shot. I had seen him get stabbed. I had seen him been hit by cars. I'd seen him like take on groups of 15 people and knock them all out.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Didn't get touched once. That's a lot of violence touched like a fucking superhero and like i had this person it was weird like when i was on his side i was untouchable if he was mad at me i was fucked like he would kill me so on his good side i felt like safe and protected like he was showing me how bad the world was but he was the only one that could hurt me and then i saw how like dark the world is and what can actually happen, what people are capable of. And when I lost him, I was so fucking scared because I was like, this person showed me how bad the world is and is no longer here to help me to protect you.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And I was just like, that's what made me flip it in my mind of like now i'm sad i lost them because i'm fucking terrified that was like a big part of it so take me on that journey after losing him what you were already getting involved in stuff illegal activities yeah can we talk about it a little bit let's talk about i know you said you've hinted about it online and stuff like that. But what was Leo doing? Were you like fucking? So when I was like 17, I started. I want to say escorting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:35 But fucking for money, basically. I love it. But I would never fuck anyone for money that I wouldn't fuck for free. Right. You know what I mean? So I was like, I don't want to do no nasty shit. Yeah. But I started like having sex for money. old started off i was 17 okay like i
Starting point is 00:22:50 couldn't get hired anywhere i was trying to get jobs places couldn't get hired so i was like i gotta make money yeah so i was an escort for in vegas i know yeah that's why i'm comfortable talking to you about it because you get it yeah no i understand 100 i kind of miss it it's so fun listen listen do i not always say if i i will suck a dick for an outfit if I have to? Like, I'm tired of spending my own money. No, it was not. Listen, when you are accustomed to a certain type of lifestyle and people just being a sugar baby, like, it is really hard to acclimate to the normal world.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I will fucking harvest money in my bank account. Ask me, I will not spend it. Like I, it's just, it's a frame of mind that you just, unless you've lived the lifestyle, you don't really understand it. Right. I'll get into my sugar daddy story. Yeah. But so 17, that's, that's young. Cause you are underage, you know, um, who introduced you to that? Nobody, nobody. You just came up with it on your own or did somebody make an offer to you? Because I know my first the first time I ever turned a trick was I was. How old was I? Fucking.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Well, technically, I guess I was 18 because my first sugar daddy hired me at my job and bought me my first car. So but I didn't turn. It was a Honda. This was back in 1998. That was when I was born. Yeah that's crazy yeah no I've lived a few lives before you baby oh I love it um but then my first trick I ever turned I had met the guy in the strip club and he was Persian and if I can yeah so I love it yeah let me hear about this so 17 you decided that you were going to enter the adult entertainment world.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Not really entertainment. Just like the adult. Like I had something I knew people wanted. Yeah. A big dick. And I was young and I was cute. Yeah. Like that was when I finally like got my body in shape.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I stopped being fat and I was like attractive. So I was like, all right, let's try it. And I had a situation happen where it was like I was I was at a certain hair salon i used to go to like i would like be strategic i was going to like a nice hair salon and the lady that would cut my hair would have people sit under the dryer and cut my hair like women like rich women would like sit in the chair and i would get my hair cut and then we would like shoot shit and talk one One time there was a girl there. I'm not going to say her name. Fuck that bitch. But we were like shooting shit. We got along and then she asked for my number before I left. So like we talked, we hung out one time and then another time she saw me in the chair,
Starting point is 00:25:19 I had on a shirt that said like sugar mama wanted, like as a joke. Like I just like had the shirt. I was like, Oh, it's funny. And then we ended up hooking up was she older yes okay how much 41 oh wow and you were 17 i could never i'm 43 i could never look at a 17 year old and be like like this is not maybe 22 but not 17 looked or acted my age like i don't act 25 i don't look no you don't you do carry yourself very so we ended up hooking up and then when i was like going to leave she handed me 500 bucks wow and i was like what's that for and she was like oh i saw your shirt and i was like oh fuck okay she's done this before i was like fun so i kept seeing her like a little bit and then i was like this could be a thing
Starting point is 00:26:01 right but then i realized like sugar mamas are harder to find the sugar daddies so that's when I was like I'll start exploring sugar daddies and fucking men for money okay so before you did that were you still kind of like trying to you know squash down those feelings of being with men or had you already been with a man I hadn't you hadn't been with a man yet so i i don't know if i have or hadn't i can't remember there's too much to fill in no we're going to but with therapy the whole thing with that like i was talking to my therapist that was the first person i talked to about the feelings i had and like when i was trying to speak it my body like full fight or flight mode like i couldn't speak like i couldn't
Starting point is 00:26:47 speak like i think i might be attracted to men like i could not get it out i was sweating and like my body was like shutting down it's like everything inside me was like not letting me reveal this truth and it's like i had to like rip it out of myself i was like can you just speak it out and my therapist was like no you're totally, you're totally fine. You're totally fine. And just like held space for me. And then I got it out. And though I am so egotistical and ego driven and I was bringing it up to her.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Like I'm into guys because I like to demasculinize them. Like I like to fuck men. And like, I'm attracted to men that I could like, I see all macho and tough stuff and then I get to demasculinize them. Like I like to fuck men and like I'm attracted to men that I could like, I see all macho and tough stuff and then I get to fuck them. It's like that is still a fetish of mine. No, I completely understand.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I have said it a million times on my podcast. I got into escortings because I got to take men's money. I would rob them. I would tell them when they could touch me, how they could touch me. And this is because I was abused as a little girl.
Starting point is 00:27:44 So it was me taking my power back. So for you, it was the same thing of you taking your power back. That for you is healing because I heard someone, I think it was Teal Swan. She talked about the version of healing that everybody thinks it is, is not it. Like healing is to experience the opposite. So if you had an experience where you were taking advantage of and didn't have any control over a sexual situation to experience a sexual situation where you have all the control, that's healing. Even though people were like, Oh, it's fucked up. You stole you this, you that shut up. Yeah. That healed you. That experience was healing. You are my best. I'll fight for you. I love you. Literally same. Um, but for you, was that the same experience?
Starting point is 00:28:28 Like whenever you finally did get to be with men, was it healing for you? Because you, you were, you know, I don't want to, I don't, I know this might be the wrong word to use, but you felt so helpless as a child because you were being, I don't want to, you know, abused by your stepfather. Do you think that might have played a role even younger? Like you didn't have an opinion, you weren't allowed to have an opinion because of being raised in, you know, that lifestyle. So you had to be macho, you had to be manly. So do you think that maybe that in turn kind of like internalized into feelings of what you were starting to feel for other men and about
Starting point is 00:29:05 how you wanted to dominate them and stuff i tried to pick it apart from every angle i just didn't want to have to accept that i was gay yeah i literally was like no i'm not into guys i just i want to look like certain guys i'm not attracted to them i just admire certain traits my therapist was like that's not typically how it goes like she would politely like shut down all the holes i was trying to shoot in my argument of like i'm a faggot like i didn't want to be that was like the worst thing i could be for myself and my life but it's it's beautiful though but i was literally like trying to nitpick it and i was like am i attracted to them no i just like to demasculinize them like and then i was like you kind of are attracted to them too like i had to
Starting point is 00:29:45 be real with myself right and i finally got to a point where i was like all right like i'll just like do shit in private and like i started like experimenting and then i started do you remember the first time with a man or no were you probably too nervous and were you getting paid was your first time with a man getting paid it wasn't transactional right but i got paid right okay gotcha so you were a sugar baby basically so that's my first like situation okay and like i was okay so like i met this guy and this is where my whole coming out part comes and i haven't talked about any of this okay i've talked about my piece of shit x that i fucking hate and this is him but i met this guy online and he was basically like we he wants to hang out
Starting point is 00:30:40 but i was like what the fuck am i gonna get like we're on a sugar daddy website right let's make it clear i'm not someone that likes gray area yeah me i don't like to bullshit let's get to the point right absolutely like if there's a transaction i want both ends clear right so it was basically come fly to atlanta and hang out with me for the weekend and he was like what would you like want to do like shopping wise and i was like i want a louis vuitton backpack and it was like 3k and i was like i'm getting a louis vuitton backpack i was like okay so we'll hang out and there was no sex like promise or anything like that it was just like hang out see where it goes right and when i got there and
Starting point is 00:31:18 we met it was like the money part was enticing and i knew I was getting a backpack, but feelings quickly arose. And I was like, this is not a sugar daddy dynamic. This is not a escort dynamic. This is like weird. And when we went to the mall, his behaviors made him attractive at the time he wasn't that cute but like it was my first time i don't know who you're talking about so yeah it was my first
Starting point is 00:31:52 time like getting close with a guy like that so i was like overwhelmed like you were able to be your true self yeah and somebody wasn't judging you so we ended up hanging out over the weekend it was fun we went to the mall i got the backpack i love that he loves the backpack even now when you talk about the backpack your little shoulders get going like it was my first like yeah reflection of like yeah money it was like value it was weird because i was raised very transactional like money is what's going gonna make you happy if you don't have money you have nothing so i was in school for nursing school at like from 18 to 21 and then i graduated at 21 and this is when i met this dude okay so we went to the mall got the backpack had sex that night because i was feeling it like i was like let's fucking do it like we made out and it was just like hot all right let's try it um next day we go back to the mall and he dropped like 15 000
Starting point is 00:32:52 more dollars on me like a cartier bracelet a versace comforter like some hoodies just like anything i wanted we were just like running around like i was giving pretty woman as fuck but i was like this is fun but like that high of touching that type shit and like having that lifestyle i was like whoa and then i saw him again and again and again and i just kept flying to see him like every other weekend like i'd go home and work and then i'd go see him and it was just back and forth but every time we'd hang out he was like buying me a bunch of shit. Like anything I wanted, we'd get it.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And then we started traveling and doing all these things. But basically how it came to coming out, I was traveling to go see this man a lot. Yeah. And my sister knew the truth from the get go. She's the only one I told about everything. She's beautiful, by the way. Oh, thank you. She's so cute.
Starting point is 00:33:43 She looks like she don't play though. Oh, she's just like me. yeah you could she has that aura of her like don't fuck around and find out yeah i'm more like fun outgoing one and she's like she's fun and outgoing but she observes first like she's like held back and just like cool but then as soon as you like make her feel comfortable she'll like open up but she's just like me i love that she's awesome she's very protective too oh is she older yes we're talking about her like she's not here but she's sitting right here i love that so with the whole like traveling a lot i was like my parents were starting to be like what the hell is going on like what are you doing traveling so much were you still living at home with my dad yes. Yes. Okay. Gotcha. I was 21. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And I just finished nursing school and I was like, I had just gotten my real estate license too. So like I graduated nursing school. I had a week in between when I started my job. So I went to real estate school and it was like 8am to 6pm every day for a week, like Monday through Sunday. And then you take the test past the course and then you go take your test and get the thing, whatever. I got that. And I had a whole trajectory for what my life was going to be. I was going to move away. I was going to do real estate. I was going to travel nursing. And then I met this dude and it flipped everything. And my parents were kind of like, what the hell's going on? Like with this guy, cause they knew it was a guy at this point. I was lying and say it was saying it was a sugar mama. And I was like, oh, I'm going to see a sugar mama.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And they were like, my mom has never been okay with me exchanging myself for money. Right. And my dad was kind of like, get what you fucking can. Have you? This is real dad, not stepdad, right? Yeah. Okay, so to rewind it back,
Starting point is 00:35:22 you're very open with your parents then. So your parents know what you were doing with the sugar mamas and stuff. That's amazing because I was the same way with my dad. I was kind of, my dad groomed me, I guess, to be in the adult industry. He was like, you know, marry for money. And like, you know, that's exactly how my family was too. So I think that's cool that you were able to confide in them on what you were doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Halfway. It's kind of like me and my sister had each other through everything we were going through and when your relationship with your parents isn't stable we had to take care of ourselves right like they were there to help but it's like we raised ourselves we raised each other and like where the fuck was i going with that no oh the dynamic with my dad and my mom, like telling them things. It's not like I'm confiding in you. I'm asking for your advice. I'm asking for your help. I'm asking for your permission. I don't ask for permission. My sister
Starting point is 00:36:15 doesn't either. Like I'm letting you know what I'm doing. Cause you asked, like you don't get to control my life if you didn't like participate. Like you're not there for me if you're not my relationship with my parents for a while was like roommate oh my with my dad it was like roommates so i was like there was not really like a dad relationship okay so they it's not like they knew what was going on because they cared they just knew what was going on because they asked yeah like they did care but like when, like my dad works all the time. And like that's his, like he has his own business and he's always doing that. So like you don't have time when you're running a big business to, well big for him.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Like should I be talking about this? I think they cared enough until like, they just, as long as we weren't tarnishing their name, they didn't give a fuck. So if we stayed out of trouble, we weren't making them look bad, they didn't give a fuck. Gotcha. How did they find out that it was a man that you were seeing? I don't remember. Did we tell them? It started when the court, when like y'all had the falling out and it went bad.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And then you had to come out and tell dad that it was a dude because you were gonna go to court okay so i only told my mom it was a guy right because i'm very very close with my mom now like she's my sister my mom are my two closest people and my mom i'm way more open and honest with like my dad is like a more distant connection emotionally my mom is very like close emotionally and I was like I sat her down one day and told her basically that I was seeing it was a sugar daddy not a sugar mama right and that was my first like talking to her about potentially being into guys so it was a lot for her to take in did she never
Starting point is 00:38:13 suspect that like everyone had suspected it but no one like really thought right like I was very convincing right and I really fucked up the way that I came out to her because I was too ego driven like I said to own up to I have feelings for guys because I thought that would make me be disgusting and like that's the worst thing you can fucking be is gay so I was like I want to be able to like be honest about what I'm doing but not have to take on the shame and the embarrassment so I was like yeah I'm just fucking him for money though and my mom was like okay that I'm not all right with and like her reaction was like she's all for me being gay she's very accepting and the day that we had the conversation I misread it I thought she was not okay with me
Starting point is 00:39:07 being gay she was not okay with me just fucking a guy for money she's like you don't need to be doing this to him like if he's over here thinking you actually like him and you're just fucking him for money that's not fair right i was in a full-on relationship with this person it was not that right i just couldn't take the ego hit i was like i'd rather say i'm fucking him for money so i can live the best of both worlds i can be in my relationship and my family doesn't think less of me but that just shows like the dynamic in my head of like i thought it was better to look like an escort than to be gay right which like not that there's wrong with either of them i could just handle i'm fucking him for money not that there's wrong with either of them. I could just handle, I'm fucking him for money, not that I genuinely like him. You weren't accepting it within yourself that you were gay yet.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So it was hard for you to even put that into words. So I really hurt my mom in this because I cut her off. Because I thought she wasn't okay with my sexuality. She wasn't okay with what I was saying that i was doing to this guy and we had like a big like fight about it and then i cut her off for like three months and we didn't talk and then i like as i was so emotional in my own head and trying to keep up with all these different stories i misread what my mom was saying and i feel so bad about that genuinely but i after everything calmed down then i was further along in the relationship
Starting point is 00:40:25 i was thinking about my mom and i was like leo you fucked up so i had to reach back out to her and like we had a conversation and she cleared it up that she was she's totally okay with me being gay she's fully fucking supportive and anyone that speaks bad of me now she's like this up like gone out like say to say it again like she's fully there of me now she's like this up like gone out like say to say it again like she's fully there for me and supports but like she cleared it up and was like my problem was never that you were gay i don't want you to ever think that my problem was that you were one like looking at yourself like you're something just disposable you can just exchange for money and two like she's like you're better like you're something just disposable you can just exchange for money and two like she's
Starting point is 00:41:05 like you're better like you're worth more than that and like if you're gonna be doing it for a couple bags and some jewelry be doing it for a house right like she didn't encourage that but she's like don't belittle yourself like for some little shit like and then she was like we love mom me too she was like the fact that you were doing it to him like i had convinced her i was like manipulating him right like i actually liked him and i was just using him for money and she was like, the fact that you were doing it to him, like I had convinced her I was like manipulating him. Like I actually liked him and I was just using him for money. And she was like, I was not cool with that. And she's like, I'm still not cool with it, but I am okay with you being gay. And then I came clean and was like, well, I'm actually dating him. Like I had to come out and I felt so bad. I was like, I owe my mom the truth. So even if it makes me look like shit,
Starting point is 00:41:44 I'm more accepted of it in myself now. So I came clean. I was like, I'm actually dating him. And she was so excited. She's like, Oh my God, I want to meet him. And she was like, it makes me feel better that you're not just like using him. And so like we reconnected and rekindled and they were tighter than we've ever been. So I'm very happy about that. She did meet him multiple times. I came when I moved into like, when I moved to Atlanta and lived with them, she came and visited. Like it was a very cool thing. I love that.
Starting point is 00:42:09 But I didn't come out to my, my dad still thought it was a sugar mama. Right. So I need to drink some water. Is this where it gets fucked up? Oh God. I feel so bad. You've been through so much,
Starting point is 00:42:22 dude. Like you guys have had a pretty brutal childhood you know people ask me how i am the way that i am and i'm like there's nothing i haven't been through yeah i don't say that lightly you're a warrior i don't want to i didn't sign up to be god's toughest fucking soldier okay he has his battle his hands that what is it he hands his hardest battles to the people who can handle it. I say the same thing. I've been through a lot of shit too. And I'm like, okay, Lord, enough.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I've had fucking enough. Like it. But you know what? My life as I've gotten older has gotten smoother. So maybe it just happens in the beginning so that the rest of the ride is just home free, you know? Yeah. But when I die and I get to the gates of heaven, I'm swinging.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I don't give a fuck. Why did you do that to me everything you wanted to throw at me there's consequences wait till i get up there yeah i swear to god all right so let's circle back to dad finding out okay so when i left my ex like the most fucked up shit you can do to someone in a relationship he did everything you can think of that could go wrong what happened everything think of something right now that could go wrong in a relationship i mean abuse yeah yeah he's like yeah that's physical emotional what else you got yeah i mean i don't I don't, trying to kill you? No.
Starting point is 00:43:45 He didn't try to kill you? That would have been easy. Oh, he actually did try to kill me because he did lie to me about having HIV. Oh my goodness. That's something I've never said on the internet. Wow. So he had HIV. That just made my heart drop. So he had HIV and this was your first experience with a man and he lied to you i asked him before like i'm
Starting point is 00:44:07 very paranoid about stds yeah i always have been and i asked him before i met up with him i was like you're clean you have nothing like he was like yes like i'm clean i'm like fully like nothing and he never once tried to look out for my safety. Never once told me to use a condom. Never once told me to anything. That's attempted murder. I know. And never told me to get on prep.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Never like nothing. Like never took one precaution for me to like protect myself. Like knew what he was doing. He was 42. Wow. Risking a 21 a 21 year old's life so that was a big component but when i left him this you might have to cut out but he also oh all right well shit cut that part out i just just want everybody to hear it. Can we bleep it? We'll bleep it. Is this dude on the internet?
Starting point is 00:45:11 Because now I got to Google. He's fucking hidden in a hole somewhere. He's so goddamn scared shitless. Yeah, don't protect him. This man literally jeopardized your fucking life, dude. Did you get tested afterwards and all that stuff? I'm still negative. I'm clean.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Thank fucking God. I literally was so freaked out after I found out. I got a weird rash from lifting weights too hard. I busted a vessel in my arm and I was like, it's the HIV. I was like, oh my God, I'm dying. But I got tested. Thankfully, HIV is so manageable now and people can live lives with it. And it's not like it was back in the fucking 80s.
Starting point is 00:45:46 You know, like it's curable now almost pretty much. Yeah, there's medications to make it dormant. Yeah. So like I'm a nurse and I know all the background to all that. But I got on PrEP just out of fear. And every like month I was getting tested because it can lay dormant for six months. What is PrEP for people who don't know? PrEP is a medication that basically lowers your chances of contracting HIV from from someone who has it okay it's not gonna like take it away gotcha but it's
Starting point is 00:46:10 better to have like a little like soldier in your bloodstream okay how long were you guys together 10 months okay and so you guys have this awful breakup and take me on that ride that i made i had to make a fucking podcast episode about that it's episode 60 podcast episode episode 60 my podcast literally everything you can do to someone in a relationship happened and then when i left he tried to destroy me tell everybody your podcast name really quick aware and aggravated aware and aggravated episode 60 go listen to it right now okay yeah that one's a lot and that's kind of like how i got started on social media and all that but basically he attacked my life in every way that he could because i left him i was
Starting point is 00:46:52 like i the money's not enough you're not enough you're like i want to get the fuck away from you so let's i want to talk about that because i've had so many sugar daddies who were so fucking abusive i'm talking like they think just because they spend money on you that they own you and i I want to talk about that because I've had so many sugar daddies who were so fucking abusive. I'm talking like they think just because they spend money on you that they own you. And I don't think that's talked about a lot, you know, because we laugh about it. We're like, yeah, being a sugar baby is awesome, blah, blah, blah. But there's also a very dark side to it, too. You know, like you have to understand that you don't get all of these things for free.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And it's not always fucking unicorns and butterflies. Half the time, a lot of these people have like trauma that they've never dealt with mental illness and just shit that they take out on you because they feel like they're paying you and you have to deal with whatever it is they fucking dish out at you right yeah that was one of the big things is when i left we were spending like a hundred thousand dollars a month on anything wow clothes trips traveling the world bora bora paris like anything we wanted to do we were doing it i was i got access to a lifestyle i've always dreamed of yeah and it wasn't enough and i literally was like i'm fucking done with you like get the fuck away from me yeah like before i kill you right because
Starting point is 00:48:02 the night that i found out about the hiv thing how did you find out um sticky story i'm a snoopy fuck i'm nosy don't trust no one it's tattooed on my hand for a reason um i like snooped and found medication and like knew what it was and i he slipped up i'm convinced if i was a man i would be leo literally i'm such a violent human too you have no idea people don't realize that best-selling merch is my hoodie and t-shirt that say not above violence i need that i'm gonna order it oh my god i'll literally send you a whole bunch please do that's a lot dude for somebody to you guys have been together for 10 months and he's just now saying yes i risked your life was he remorseful or was it more like yeah I risked your life no and one of the worst things was he told me everything he was buying from me is because I was worth it
Starting point is 00:48:51 and I was always like why are you spending so much money on me like it was at a point where like I didn't even want shit anymore like after like three months I was like we can slow down I'm gonna got enough shit and he just kept pushing and pushing and more and more and would just surprise me with shit buy me shit forced me to go shopping and i was like i didn't get it i was like why do you keep buying so much like we're together you've got me like i'm not going anywhere like i thought it was an overcompensation and he was like it's because you're worth it and i just want you to know that when i found out about the hiv thing he was not remorseful at all he immediately flipped and was like the real
Starting point is 00:49:27 reason i've been buying you everything and spending so much money on you is because i knew i had hiv and when you found out he said i knew how guilty you'd feel to get me arrested because he saw my heart and he saw how much i care about people and he was like you're not worth it oh my god and was like i would like i was looking out for my ass and he's like and now you're not gonna go to the cops about it because you don't call cops and i was like this motherfucker wow i just got goosebumps i'm like shaking like but yeah that was a mind fuck from hell like i felt so valuable because he was like doing all this for me and was like i was like finally someone sees value in me and then to have that like flip and was like i was doing it because i knew you'd feel bad and you wouldn't take me to court if i spend three hundred thousand
Starting point is 00:50:13 dollars on you on shit what a fucking piece of shit god he doesn't have a name you want to drop his name i mean like he's a piece of shit good lord yeah that's just what like happened in the relationship after the relationship let's get into that so dad he we haven't gotten into how dad found out yet we haven't that's where we're getting to okay okay so after the relationship ended he started suing me for anything he could defamation of character domestic abuse domestic violence all this shit abuse of power trying to get me restraining orders against me because i have guns and i carry and he wanted to get them taken away because he's fucking with me and he wants to take my way of protecting myself i have no physical threat i'm scared of right at all yeah
Starting point is 00:51:04 like even if there's a group of hundred people and they're trying to physical threat i'm scared of right at all yeah like even if there's a group of hundred people and they're trying to attack me i'm gonna stand there and fight till i die i'm albanian that's how we are yeah like i don't fear anything physically and he was fucking with me in every way that i couldn't defend myself so like trying to sue me for anything he could make up trying to get restraining orders on me went to the florida board of nursing and submitted false claims with his punk ass one-legged fucking mom oh mom's got one over this bitch goddamn peg leg they fucking went to the florida board of nursing submitted false claims over me why y'all laughing one-legged fucking bitch and i almost took the second one
Starting point is 00:51:43 i almost took the second one because i was pissed they falsified claims against me went to the florida board of nursing and they were like he had so much money to pay attorneys to like sue people and sue shit and like get things turned in his favor the isn't that disgusting how people can manipulate the judicial system with money it just starts there fucking disgusting so he and his little fucking i'm so mad mom i'm like i'm sweating again no i'm pissed so they went and submitted false claims to the florida board of nursing they put my license under review and they launched an investigation on me for six months but when i moved and left him i went from spending a hundred thousand dollars a month never
Starting point is 00:52:25 worrying about money again to going back to making three four k a month as a nurse and i was like back working and that mind flip and that reality shift what the fuck you've experienced it oh yeah like that's when you're with someone with a lot of money like that the meaning of money and what it is doesn't matter yeah like i was spending like 300 bucks on a louis vuitton keychain and buying five of them because i liked them yep going back to working as a nurse and making 300 bucks a shift for 12 hours it made me go harder it made me figure out like what i had to do you know like i was like i'm i want to have that feeling again but happiness on my own on my own exactly and now i got now I got it. Yes. And it makes you go harder to figure out, okay, well, what can I do to fucking get there without having to fucking be abused by
Starting point is 00:53:10 somebody? Yes. So everything going on in court is how my, I had to go to my dad. I was like, I don't know what to do. I didn't have money like to spend for attorneys. Right. Cause like they were big cases and big things. He was like bringing up against me. Accusations are crazy. Yeah. So I had to go to my dad. I was like, dad, I have to be honest because I need help. Like I called him after I'm like when I left my ex, I was literally like driving home at
Starting point is 00:53:40 like two in the morning or three in the morning because we got in a big fight. He called the cops on me and I just peeled the fuck out and took off and drove four and a half hours back to Florida. And I called my dad and I was like, "'Dad, can I please move back in?" And he was like, of course, like of course. That's one thing about my dad. My sexuality, we don't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:53:59 We don't address it. It's don't ask, don't tell. He still asks me if I talk to girls, if I've hooked up with girls. We just avoid that topic. But my my safety he will always care about like making sure i'm okay no one's gonna do nothing like to me without him getting involved right so he was like of course come home come home and like i drove home and he helped me unpack all my shit he was like getting up for work at like 7 a.m when i was getting there and he like helped me and i just like went to bed he was like just go to sleep and just wake up eat good and we'll figure it out tomorrow i was like getting up for work at like 7 a.m. when I was getting there and he like helped me and I just like went to bed.
Starting point is 00:54:25 He was like, just go to sleep and just wake up, eat good and we'll figure it out tomorrow. I was like, OK, so I moved back in with my dad and then I had to come clean and I was like it was the guy I was with. And now he's suing me for like all these things. This was a couple of days after being home because it was like just a shit show. And your ex knew that you hadn't come out to your dad. So he just didn't care. He was just out to destroy you. Yeah. hadn't come out to your dad right so he just didn't care he was just out to destroy you yeah so i came out to my dad about that i was like it was a guy but i he was like did you care about him and i was like i don't know right so i was still kind of playing
Starting point is 00:54:57 that thing with my dad of like it was just a exchange like a monetary exchange and my dad was like trying to help me with attorneys and but literally no one like knew what to do right so i had to represent myself in court i started studying law and doing my but my nursing license was under review right and i couldn't work as a nurse so So I started partying a lot. And I tried drugs for the first time. Like the weekend I drove home, that weekend, like it was like a Tuesday. That weekend, I had never smoked a cigarette. I had never done a drug.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I had barely been drunk. And I did coke, molly, and got shit-faced drunk in the first night all at once i had so much fucking fun you were hurt though no bitch i had a blast i didn't give a fuck i was in a house full of rich people and i was like let's do this shit yeah so i had a blast with it and then i started like partying very hard to like cope with my life and like everything he was doing to me like defaming me online bought leoskeppy.com and like trashed me on it made up all this bullshit this before i was online wow and like ripped me but i was just like partying and i started like doing more drugs i loved coke i had a gold acrylic pinky nail oh nice for like months love it i used to do eight balls by myself it was crazy
Starting point is 00:56:25 eight balls and xanax was my shit yeah i had i had the xanax kick yeah like you have to weigh it out it's like you do too much coke it's like yeah yeah exactly now i need a shot oh now i'm too drunk i need a fucking bump oh dude it's a fucking roller coaster man yeah so i got into like doing drugs and partying and then i was like picking up for my friends when i would pick up and i would get enough for them and then i started realizing like i would go to a party and everybody knew i could like float the initial like thousand dollars for everything everybody wanted to like make sure everybody got their like nobody else was like able to out of my closer friends like no one was able to like front the cost to like buy it so like i i've always been
Starting point is 00:57:10 smart with money and i like fronted it and i saw how much money can be made there right and i was like here's my way out so i started dealing drugs yeah and i was the molly man and everybody knew i had the good coke and the good molly and i just started doing that but i never did anything reckless with dealing drugs i had were you still using while you were dealing oh hell yeah that whole don't get high on your own supply my shit was good he was like yes i was getting high like as i'm like packing people. I always like packed it pretty in a little Ziploc bag. I didn't do the fucking foil.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I don't like that. But like I have my little nail just while I'm going to keep me going, like packing it up. Do you still use? Here and there. Yeah. But now I'm at a point. I'm so scared to die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Which is weird. And now you can't trust. Well, that's one thing you can't come back from. You can get your ass whooped, but you know, you get a batch of bad shit and you know, you're not coming back from that.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Yeah. So like I went from fully like not giving a fuck if I died, wanted to die to like, now it's so weird. People don't talk about this. Like now I have an insane fear of flying. I'm scared to do certain drugs unless i know they're fucking good yeah i'm like so paranoid to everything oh my biggest fear is
Starting point is 00:58:30 death i used to be the same as you i thought i was bulletproof and then like the older i got i was just like um i'm not immortal and i'm not you know bulletproof like anything can happen at any time you know that was the thing is like i didn't care if i died i wanted to die yeah so i just lived reckless you're happy now though yeah place of happiness and i'm like you're scared to lose it achieving everything i've wanted and i'm like hitting my potential and i'm like oh now i'm like i'm like shaky as fuck i'm like like i don't it's hard to function yeah when you have to flip like that yeah but with selling drugs and all that one little part of it is i never did anything reckless i was never stupid i would never sell to broke people. I would sell to rich people. And being a nurse, I made connections with like a bunch of doctors and engineers.
Starting point is 00:59:13 People don't realize that doctors abuse drugs more than anybody I know. I used to have this client who was an emergency room fucking doctor. I've never told this story before. We were getting fucked up doing blow one night. And asked him i was like what is the coolest thing to you about being an emergency room doctor and he said looked at me did the biggest fucking line of coke and he said i get to play god i was like oh fucking k i still get goosebumps fucking thinking about it i was like i just remember i looked at him high as shit and i was like i'm never going to the emergency room again i was like this is fucked up and i've never forgot that dude but you know motherfuckers in the medical field get fucked up they are the biggest druggies and i love
Starting point is 00:59:54 them for it they put me in business i made so much fucking money but i had a thing with like all the people that i knew like they invite me to the party they genuinely wanted to hang out with me but when i started like dealing and getting them shit they were like oh invite me to the party. They genuinely wanted to hang out with me. But when I started like dealing and getting them shit, they were like, oh, fuck, come to the party, supply the party. I said, OK, minimum a thousand if I'm coming. Right. But you got to buy a thousand dollars worth of shit. They'd buy three, five thousand.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Like they just have people and they were just like, oh, I need more for later. And I would just like go show up to the party, hang out, party with everybody, get everybody their shit, make my money and then party. And then, yeah, it was was so fun you figured it out um so rewinding real quick when your dad found out that it was a guy was he upset like or what was he like okay i've got your back i'm gonna help you he had my back and was gonna help me but he was just like okay it is what it is it happened like you got money out of it you got your shit all right now let's just be done with it fuck him right like him was trying to help me detach from it all.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Good. Get away from it. Yeah. Love that. That's so fucked up that that dude put you through that dude. Like that's crazy. So let's keep going. You fucking are dealing drugs now.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Your life of the party. This dude's still fucking doing weird shit. Did you ever represent yourself in court? Three times. Okay. Let me hear about that. I won every time. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. i'm a manipulative fuck i'm a i mean but you're also fighting for your life
Starting point is 01:01:12 so is that being manipulative this person was literally coming against you online and fucking smearing your name yeah all he backed you into a corner and he fucked around and found out i never like beat him and that's my biggest regret in this life. No. Is not absolutely pummeling this punk fucking bitch into the ground. Yeah. But that didn't happen for a reason. I'm going to get him in hell.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I know. I'm going to get him when I go to hell. I know. That hatred is never going to come out of me. I know. Like that is my only regret in this life is not swinging on people sooner when I used to get bullied. I wish I would have started beating ass a lot sooner and then not ever beating the fuck out of him.
Starting point is 01:01:48 No, I get it. So I never like hit him, but he would like slap me and shit. And I'm like, you don't know what you're fucking doing. Like if you smack me, like I would laugh. Yeah. Oh, that's cute. So where are we going with that? So you had to represent yourself in court three times. So there were things that I did and I would own up to it in court and he was like he had a black eye one time because we were fucking and he like reached up and grabbed my nipples and twisted
Starting point is 01:02:16 them and like pulled them nothing about that feels good and i fell onto him and like when i put my hand down to catch myself my thumb like, like I'm big as fuck. I'm 200. I was like 240 pounds at the time. Like I'm big. I like me coming down on you. I was like, what the fuck? And like I put my hand down to catch myself and I hit him in the eye.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And it like the blood vessels around your eye are very sensitive. So he got a black eye. It looked like I like hit him, but I didn't. He tried to come out with a story and take me to court that I hit him. And I went in court. I was like, okay, your honor, I hate to be explicit, but we were having sex. And I told her like what happened. I bet the judge loved you.
Starting point is 01:02:56 The judge, like I'm very honest. Yeah. Every time I've fought in school, fought and had to deal with cops, dealt with this shit in court. Yeah. I'm very honest about what i'll what i do can tell yeah yeah i'm like i did hit him this time i didn't hit him that time now what yeah and they just like dismissed that shit because they knew it was so
Starting point is 01:03:16 stupid that's crazy so did you ever have to take out anything on him like a restraining order like fucking stop slandering my name online and all that shit i tried okay and things were avoided because he had money because he had what money money right so well moving on from that what's leo doing now you won your court case my best yay let's about it. We love an underdog story. I love this. So you go through all this fucking shit. What happens now? Are you still dealing drugs? Are you getting on?
Starting point is 01:03:56 I have too much to lose now or I would still be in the game. Well, take me on this journey now of Leo conquering, kicking ass. I love it. Okay. So I started my podcast. I started getting online because like I said, he slandered me online. Right. So like he had this reputation built of me of like just this absolute piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Is he an online personality? No. Okay. He like basically defamed me and like made this reputation for me. And I didn't have money to fight it and once people have a certain perception of you you can't change it so I had the realization like the only way to change people's perception is to show them who I truly am so I started getting online I was like I'm gonna be so myself genuine, straight up me and show people my heart, my intentions,
Starting point is 01:04:45 my humor, the times I am an asshole. Like I'm just going to show it all because it will make all those claims become so clearly invalid. Right. Like people believing him. Did he have a, an audience that actually believed him? Not really. Okay. It was before I got online. So like every job I would try to apply for things I would do, and like friends, people in my life were finding it. Like you look up Leo Skeppy, boom, first thing. Does he still own Leo Skeppy? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Do you have it? Good. Don't ask how I got it. I'm not. I'm not going to. So I like came out of hiding basically. Like I was like this name that was built for me, I can just hide from it or i can blow it the fuck out of the water by like being bigger than that so i just got online and started being myself and i made my podcast and all the things that i was going through i
Starting point is 01:05:34 was like sharing how i dealt with it because like therapists couldn't help me literally no one knew what to do to help me and i couldn't find answers so i just started sharing all that through my podcast and i got on tiktok and started fucking around people love my personality when did you get on tiktok like 2020 2021 2021 when i was going through court i started making jokes like i literally was in court one time and i pulled out my phone and i was like here i am in court because my ex is fucking psychotic and like couldn't handle losing me and everybody like it blew up and everybody was like oh my god he's funny as hell so everybody was kind of invested in it so i just like started like talking shit then he was trying to sue me for those videos and i was like eat my dick
Starting point is 01:06:12 i literally told his attorney and three of them three attorneys he hired i told them all to eat my dick at least once right um pretty sure they would want to yeah that's one thing i do is i'll be throwing around the word faggot like it's nothing. I love it because I came from an era where that word wasn't what it means now. Yeah. You know, so like even like the R word, you know, like we use dude, the R word, you know, I can't say it because people come for me all the fucking time. You can have a path. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:39 You're me in a female body. Yeah, literally. Say faggot. But, you know, people fucking, everybody's so fucking sensitive now and it's just crazy to me i think it's intention how you say the word is intention you know like that's how you guys should judge when people say certain words like what is the intention behind it how are they directing it describing yourself and like joking around you're not like looking at somebody calling them that being rude so i'll do that too will. With me, like I was bullied so bad over the word faggot and it used to hurt me so bad.
Starting point is 01:07:09 So it's like now. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. I'll fling it around. Whether it's derogatory or a joke. Right. Well, like if someone else, I'm very protective of people. Like if someone else calls someone a faggot.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah. Nah, it's a problem. Right. I could do it. Not you. Right. Because I know I'm not trying to hurt them. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Intention. But where were we going with the we were talking about just how you fucking built rose from the ashes like a goddamn phoenix baby yeah like a dragon i'm spitting literally just fucking coming up so you got on tiktok and you started your podcast and then just shit just started going from there yeah i started the app Positive Focus. It's like a app for your phone that will send you positive quotes like throughout the day. Like really, there's a lot of apps that are kind of like that,
Starting point is 01:07:51 but it's like bullshit. I made things that would actually flip your perspective because like when I was going through a lot of like of the worst stuff, it's hard to think positive about anything. So I was like, if I could just have an app that would like send me something to think about, I don't want to have to put effort into thinking positive. Like just prompt me on my phone and I'm fine. So I made it cause I couldn't find it. And I love your mentality. I did that.
Starting point is 01:08:13 And I used the drug money to fund it. Cause it was like 30 K. I love that. I used all my hooker money to build this. You got to baby. We are the same. Literally. No, I swear it's scary. too baby we are the same literally no i swear it's scary so i made that got on social media got on tiktok started my podcast and then in the past i'd say three months since like february everything has like snowballed tripled yeah like my i gained like two million followers like i gained like a million in the past month and a half i gained like a hundred thousand on youtube in the past month and a half my instagram has grown like 150 000 or like 170 000 in the past like month and a half it's like it's finally the value i'm sharing is being recognized and i'm like i've never doubted myself once i'm like
Starting point is 01:09:03 these motherfuckers are just stupid and they want to listen to jay shetty and mel robbins and all these people yeah not that i don't like them right but they just there's surface level self-help right i got the real shit right like you've been through shit i feel like a lot of self-help people haven't been through a lot of deep shit they just like woke up one day and were like i just want to be a self-help guru you know and like they just start wake up and start your day with a lemon water yeah journal go sit in the sun yeah no for sure like they're not realistic um so you have this app you like what is in store for leo like tell us what do we have to look forward to like any cool news that we can talk about actually i do have some big news do you
Starting point is 01:09:46 know the agency uta i don't okay they're one of the biggest agencies i just signed with wme so i know like wme caa okay yeah the past three weeks everything's been blowing up i've been charting on the podcast um all these companies have been reaching out to me i've been charting on the podcast um all these companies have been reaching out to me i've been having meetings out the ass my manager and me are both like overwhelmed i'm a one-man team and that's something people don't realize like everything that i do is by myself as of two months ago i started working with my manager but everything i do produce make film is all me no one edits shit i do it i'm picky same it's just me and mimi we just hired on wme in january i love it so they saw like every company has like seen me blowing up and
Starting point is 01:10:34 everybody wants a piece of it now and they want to like help me and like help me they see me as a fucking check i don't forget that i'm stupid so all these companies probably see your worth that too yeah so a lot of these companies have been like fighting for me and i've had meetings with every agency you could think like wme i had a meeting with them and i need to introduce you to my agent sloan you would fall in love with her and she is a fucking go-getter she is a goddamn tiger like she's crazy yeah i'll definitely hook you guys up so you guys yes i love making connections like that yeah she's crazy yeah i'll definitely hook you guys up so you guys yes i love making connections like that yeah she's amazing this whole world like just flew open for me and i didn't realize
Starting point is 01:11:10 this much goes into it so i just signed with uta two days ago so like they're fully like about to take over and like everything i want to do, I finally have a team of people who can make it happen. I don't have to be the one making all these businesses and doing all this shit. I'm sick of it. Yeah. I'm sick of it. I did. It's scary giving up control. Cause I'm in that right now. I have to hire. Yeah. I'm under so much pressure. I'm just like me. I'm kind of like, Oh, I don't know. You know, like I just, it scares me because we've done for five years. I've, it's just been me and Mimi. So bringing all these other people in, I'm just scared. Cause it's like, nobody sees your vision the way that you do. You know, the first fuck up, I'm like, you're out of
Starting point is 01:11:53 here. Same. I'm very cutthroat. Yeah. Same. Cause I'm a perfectionist and I don't tolerate nothing less. Yeah. But when I was growing on social media, a lot of people liked my podcast and asked me to start like, can I work with you one-on-one can you coach me and I was like okay so I got my life coach certification and just started like one-on-one coaching people in the past three months I haven't had time like I've literally had to take a break from it to reposition everything that's your feel good like you yeah I love doing that yeah but i'm at a point now there's thousands of people trying to sign up for it i don't have time and i'm trying to stabilize everything with my career first and then get that back incorporated i don't know how the hell i'm gonna do it yeah but i'm gonna figure
Starting point is 01:12:38 it out but i signed with uta and like they're the biggest they only have like 200 and something people they signed paris hilton fucking alexander Cooper, Emma Chamberlain, Bretman Rock. Like they sign all these big ass people. So Leo, you just signed with UTA and you guys are going to just start working your asses off. Is there anything else that you want to tell us about that's going to happen in 2023? So I'm looking at doing live events, like live podcasts. We should, dude, we are looking into that
Starting point is 01:13:06 too so and thinking about doing a tour and I would love to have you come on a couple oh my god absolutely yeah that would be awesome did you get the pink bus I of course I want to be in that one dude you can come come out on the road oh my god the boys would love you you have one that'll fit me on sixth oh for sure yeah it's a big ass fucking bus i love that yeah but um so you're thinking about doing live events live events i'm gonna start another segment to my podcast where i start incorporating guests and like influencers celebrities and talking about deep things and unpacking shit the way that i do which i think will be fun um that the live events thing and then i'm in the process of creating a vitamin line oh dope and it's not the typical
Starting point is 01:13:51 vitamin line i'm very big on if you do something to damage your body do something to help it so i smoke i drink i do drugs sometimes like if i roll i have a lot of vitamins that i take to like help with a come down i have a lot of vitamins that I take to like help with a come down. I have a lot of vitamins I take before and after I drink. I have vitamins I take daily for my lungs. So that's what the vitamin line is going to be based around is I was going to name it damage control. That was already trademarked. But the name is the new name is being trademarked.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I'll tell it to you off camera. I don't want to reveal it, but like that's a big thing I'm so excited about. Because no one has the platform to do it. Like no one has the balls to release some shit like that. No, I love that. So I'm doing it. I love it.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I'm so proud of you. Thank you. I really am. And I just love seeing you shed your light on people. And just even though you have some really dark situations that have happened in your life, you have chose to spread light. You know, no matter how macho you are and egotistical or whatever, you're still just a loving human. And I think that's really fucking rad. So I just, I'm just so happy to have had you on. Thank you. Thank you so
Starting point is 01:14:54 much for coming, Leo. Why don't you shout out where everybody can find you? Okay. TikTok is Leo Skeppy. Instagram is the Leo Skeppy because some fucking rat already took my name. And then my podcast is called Aware and Aggravated. It's on YouTube. You can watch the video version. And then it's on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Yay. I love you so much, Leo.
Starting point is 01:15:15 You are my new BFF, by the way. Y'all heard it here first. Yes. Everybody get out of her fucking DMs. Absolutely. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.

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