Dumb Blonde - Lil Wyte: A Memphis Icon

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Bunnie is joined by veteran rapper Lil Wyte, a total icon that made his way from Memphis to stages all over the world. In Part 1, he talks about his developing bromance with Jelly, the secret...s behind his early freestyling, what made his Mrs. Wyte stand out and got him to settle down, Three 6 Mafia, and the guardian angels that help guide him along.  Lil Wyte: YouTube | IG | Spotify  Bunnie: TikTok | IG | YouTube Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is this thing on? Alright gentlemen, coming to main stage next, this is Bunny. Get up there, she's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars. Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up you sexy motherfuckers?
Starting point is 00:00:19 Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, we have the dynamic duo. We have an icon in our midst it's motherfucking little white what it do baby what up baby and mrs white is it can i just refer to you as mrs white or do you want me to call you nicole i love nicole me and nicole are homies outside of here but i just wanted to know what the proper terminology was i'll be mrs white okay gotcha professional only thank you guys for coming to Nashville. You guys are in Memphis, right?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah. Well, fucking. Well, Bartlett. We don't live in Memphis. Oh, you don't? Do you live like outside of Memphis? I mean, it's the burbs. We got this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's like Franklin to Nashville. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Just like you say, yeah, I live in Nashville, but it's technically like the burbs. Nope. Isn't it crazy? Isn't it crazy? Whenever Jay and I moved from, you know fucking actual nashville like a
Starting point is 00:01:07 little apartment in nashville out to the suburbs we were like property value went down how the fuck did we get here you know like it was just crazy neighbors a shelby county sheriff and he hates me oh no well i may allegedly have called him a racist pig one night. Oh, fuck. Allegedly. This is what I was told. I don't remember it, so it didn't happen. Right. No, I totally understand that. We are friends with Bartlett cops now, though.
Starting point is 00:01:32 So they know which cars are ours, so they leave us alone. I got a little coin that says it's basically a get out of jail free card. I love it. I do too. I just tried to lay low out here, man. I got pulled over, and I think I have a warrant now because I haven i haven't gotten a ticket in so long oh by the way the truck is sick i ain't never seen it in person that thing is cool oh thank you so much i love that color on the wrap oh no me too dude i fucking i'm all about fuck i told him i wanted the elton john of
Starting point is 00:01:56 g wagons you got it yeah you got it you definitely got it completely dude love it um i'm so happy you're here white dude you don't realize how much of an icon you are or maybe you do do you realize how much of an icon you are i'm humble i mean i get it like like no you don't need to be humble here just flex those nuts just for example like we just ate uh brunch at uh ruby suns was it ruby sun ruby sunshine ruby sunshine and we were leaving and there was there was like a whole family sitting at the table across from us. I kept seeing, you know, they're kind of out the corner of their eyes looking at us. And we walked out. I was going to the car, and this little young girl walks up.
Starting point is 00:02:34 She was maybe, what, 16, 17. She's like, I thought she was fixing to ask me for some money, the way she walked up. But her baby was like fresh to death. So I was like, this bitch don't need no money. Right. What is she about to ask? She's like, I'm sorry to bother you, but my mom wants like fresh to death. So I was like, this bitch don't need no money. Right. What is she about to ask? She's like, I'm sorry to bother you,
Starting point is 00:02:46 but, um, my mom wants a picture with you. And I was like, your mom? She was like, yeah. So my mom's been a fan of yours for the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And I was like, okay. So that puts your mom at about 42. Huh? But how does that make you feel though? Do you, do you like it? I love it.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I mean, like, I hate it. I won't go out with Jay anymore because of it. Well, I tell this to everybody, and I've been saying this for a long time. Juicy told me 20 years ago, Juicy Jay said, when the pictures and autographs stop, it's over. Right. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And as long as one or two a week roll through, I'm still good. Yeah. The boy's still got it. I hate it. When I go out with Jay, we'll try to have date nights. and you just gotta rent out the whole building and just hide in the back corner literally i can't even get a date night alone with him because he's taking pictures and you know signing autographs all night so it's like if we go out it's like we have to go out of town well i mean to be honest he's hard to miss and ma'am you're definitely hard to miss like you guys aren't
Starting point is 00:03:42 like come on yeah that's why like even like even when we go out we got like one bar we go to yeah that's and it's sidecar it's my little spot i've been going there forever and we just go there everybody's like why do y'all always go here it's like because i can be myself right they call me patrick here my name is pat here people don't call me little white these are my biker buddies and stuff yeah we have our own seats like if someone's sitting there we walk in they'll be hey sorry nicole sorry pat we'll get y'all we can sit somewhere else well I put a white music logo sticker on one of the napkin holders on the bar and like if we walk in and somebody's sitting there they'll look at and be like oh sorry bro let me slide down I'm like dude
Starting point is 00:04:17 I'm not that boozy but yeah get out my fucking seat yeah like I mean you know well one night we were in there and I went to smoke a cigarette out back and i pushed my seat forward onto the bar you know when you fold your seat up to let somebody know you're sitting there yeah had my food sitting there pack a cigarette some keys and this guy and keep in mind i was i don't remember what the occasion was but they don't need one to be drunk um i was drunk and the bartender was he was like hey is anybody sitting here and she was like tasha was like yeah somebody's obviously sitting here and she was like Tasha was like yeah somebody's obviously sitting here so he slides all my shit down pulls my chair down and just sits down allegedly somebody pulled a knife on him I don't know who that guy was
Starting point is 00:04:55 there's a lot of alleged shit going on around you it's 2021 I'm not in car I'm not uh uh gonna uh what is it incriminating yeah I'm not doing that so there's myself. Yeah, I'm not doing that. So there's going to be a few allegeds around in this podcast. No, listen, I know how you guys roll. I get it. So let's go. I want to just kind of paint a picture. I know everybody knows Little White, OxyCott, and all that stuff. But do they really know your backstory, where you grew up,
Starting point is 00:05:22 your childhood, and stuff like that? So I kind of want to paint that picture. Did you always grow up? Did you grow up, like your childhood and stuff like that. So I kind of want to paint that picture. Like, were you always, did you always grow up? Did you grow up in Memphis? Oh, yeah. Born and raised? I grew up born and raised in Fraser, a little hood right in North Memphis. Born and raised.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I mean, we were actually like, and, you know, we were probably one of the last white families to live in that neighborhood before it got just real bad. Yeah. And when my dad passed away well i moved out soon as that first check hit as soon as that first doubt me now check hit i was out well did you um so you said that did when you hold on a second let me grab let me grab my words here when uh you were born you were born in memphis whatever and then we're gonna slow it down and get
Starting point is 00:06:03 to the money but were you born into money or was it like you were like poverty stricken or a heat and air conditioning man my mom worked at kroger no we are no we were definitely yeah poor did you always like rapping like were you always into rap or did you like music or was that like your thing there was there's actually outlet there's actually a um picture somewhere i'm sure my little brother's got it uh but there was a picture of me jumping on my bed at like five with a guitar singing born in the usa oh so i've always been interested in music um crisscross totally crossed out was the first actual rap album i bought right because my parents actually let me buy it
Starting point is 00:06:46 because Walmart had it on cassette. Somebody tried to rhyme, but they can't rhyme like this. Somebody tried to rhyme. I loved Criss Cross. That's how old we are, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm 142 million years old.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Shit, I am fucking forever 26 because the internet says. My soul has been here. The internet says i'm fucking 26 i'll be your older sister yeah i'm like whatever dude i'll fucking be eternal i'm a vampire but i think my soul was created during the big bang i feel like i've been here forever yeah but um i guess around like 10 10 years old i really got into like rap music i liked it so i would have to hide my rap cds behind me and her
Starting point is 00:07:25 were just talking about this she had to hide the chronic album behind the Britney Spears cd and um I got in so much trouble when my mom found that too the Britney Spears cd no the the chronic cd oh gotcha the one that had the weed leaf on it and did you grow up in Memphis too is that where like did you guys know each other as kids or when did you guys she grew up on a whole other side of Memphis and I'd oh gosh I was she the suburb baby no I was the other side of the hood oh gosh I was east Memphis basically okay gotcha but about 10 years old I really got into rapping the guy that lived across the street rest in peace Jimmy Collins he uh he built speaker boxes for like the whole neighborhood he you know go by the wood pay
Starting point is 00:08:06 him 150 bucks he'll build a speaker box so I would be real young sitting over there with him just watching him build speaker boxes and after he was done he'd always pull out like some old triple six mafia cassette before they were three six and he would test out the bump with that so like every time he got a new three six mafia tape he would let me take it across the street get a blank cassette burn it before my dad got home from work and i'd write like holiday classics on it or something like to where he would never know and then once cds came out my dad broke so many three six mafia cds because when was it because he thought it would oh because they were graphic just the graphic content shit like once he when he first heard and i had i was that kid that would go to like i'd cut grass in the summertime and i'd go to like yard sales and if i seen like a
Starting point is 00:08:55 set of speakers for sale my eyes would light up so like by the time i was like 12 i had like 40 speakers and and looking back now you need a big receiver to push 40 speakers boom box which was definitely a fire hazard because i probably had 600 wires running behind this stuff and one day my dad came home early from lunch and heard me bumping slob on my knob and he just snapped it in half just broke it i was always in trouble for singing madonna in church like a virgin I was always in trouble for singing Madonna in church. Like a virgin? I actually got in trouble for singing Like a Virgin on some grandpa's lap. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I was a kid. I didn't know what was happening. You still do very similar things there, buddy. I know. Some people never change, you know. Listen, I was a whore from birth, all right? I got in trouble for trying to go to church halloween party dressed as a devil no apparently that's right about fried frowned upon yeah it is frowned upon i got fried
Starting point is 00:09:50 in church and they sent me home i was like you walked in and they were like no bitch you talk about him in the bible so technically like and it's a halloween party i'm just trying to bring all the characters in life i thought i was doing right we were born he was an angel that fell from heaven you know jesus but but like it i'm and i'm not gonna fast forward too far but i wouldn't go back but like it's funny because when i did sign the three six mafia my dad walked right up to paul and juicy and was like because i was 17 when i signed they had to sign my contract my dad walked right up to paul and was like do you know how many of your cds i've broken and paul probably loved it i'm having to sign my son's contract.
Starting point is 00:10:26 He was like, I'm actually glad you did break them CDs. He was like, why? I was like, why? Did you go buy another one? I was like, of course I did. He was like, see? He just kept the sales going. You can break all his CDs if you want to.
Starting point is 00:10:38 That's awesome. So moving forward, you know, dad's breaking all the three six mafia cds was there any other people who inspired you besides three six mafia or were you just like dude i'm gonna be a part of three six mafia no matter what well i was i was a big memphis rap fan period al capone eight ball mjg skinny skinny pimp i love me some eight ball and mjg i was listening to him yesterday we were just with them at the grizzlies there's some cool some cool ass dudes. I want them to come on the podcast. I love them. I can make that happen for sure. Okay, cool. Yeah, I love A-Ball.
Starting point is 00:11:07 They love me to death. But I was a big fan of all the guys. Matter of fact, Skinny Pimp. When Skinny Pimp, King of the Playhouse Ball album dropped, that was the very first verse on Midnight Hose that I memorized the day it came out and went to school the next day and floated for the cafeteria and
Starting point is 00:11:25 everybody thought that that was my lyrics did you always have a flow like or did you have to practice it because you know how some rappers have to like practice and find their sound or was it just natural for you i had my partner a little black he actually gave me the name little white because everybody just called me a little pat and he's like little pat ain't gonna go nowhere he's like i'm a little black and he was a crip so he spelled his b-l-a-c-c he was like little pat ain't gonna go nowhere he's like he's like i'm a little black and he was a crip so he spelled his b-l-a-c-c he was like spell it different kind of like the word hype let's make it w-y-t-e and i was like hmm that actually might work so what we would do is we would go to the lunchroom and we didn't battle we just freestyled and rapped and freestyling i feel is harder oh than just if you were to write one of the
Starting point is 00:12:05 kings of it i know and i get so mad because i want him to do more freestyles and he fucking won't well even back when we were working a lot together back when even even when he was living in memphis there for a while with me um you know i told him jelly you got to start writing this stuff down because if somebody somebody could just come in and say they wrote that if you if you don't have no documentation of writing this down or at least jot down the main because he would literally write down his rhyming words and just tack it onto the wall and he would just freestyle just add the rhyming word freestyle and it's incredible watching him work that back back in them days like that but i never really was i was a writer i've always been a writer so what i would do we had lunch right before biology class and I hated
Starting point is 00:12:46 biology class the teacher knew it he didn't even give me no problems so what I would do every day about the last 20 minutes of class I'd write me a quick little 16 bar verse and I'd memorize it in that last 20 minutes so I'd go to the lunch table no paper no nothing in my hand and he'd go around each person and they always saved me for last because i was the only white boy at the table and uh they i just released this information like with since we've been together in the last few years a false freestyler i was a false flag and freestyler oh shit but i mean everybody's hold on if you wrote the lyrics isn't that still considered freestyle sure yeah, for sure, yeah. Okay. But back then, they were like, nobody knew I had a notebook full of raps.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Did it have to be off the dome to be considered freestyle? Yeah, I mean, yeah, off the dome to be considered freestyle, yeah. But nobody knew that it wasn't off the dome, because I kept it a secret, like literally up until like the last five years ago. I did an interview with somebody, and I told them, and they were like, that's pretty smart. But it was funny because everybody was like,
Starting point is 00:13:48 how the hell does he fucking do this? How does he do this? He's like, I was rehearsing in the boys' bathroom. I pretty much did. I swear to God, dead serious. I've been there whispering it to myself.
Starting point is 00:13:58 But to be able to memorize that too in that short amount of time is actually pretty talent. That was another thing that tripped everybody out because it's not easy to memorize a whole 16 bars i can't even remember fucking mr grinch and that song's been around forever i had to have the fucking lyrics in the fucking booth you know so that's you know he still does it too like people get mad like when he's got like
Starting point is 00:14:17 record a feature there's like he'll be in there writing the verse and stuff and then he'll drop it like one take jake and be done like man i ran the studio for eight hours and he's like you fucking wasted some money buddy that's how daddy is i'm hungry i got shit to do yeah no that's how jay is too he's like you guys are just fucking like programmed to you guys are just one of the goats you know when we was on the road back in the day when we was constantly going and going and going we would we'd have like a little powwow in the van before we pull up to the studio i'm like all right bubba are you gonna go in here you write your fucking verse knock it out i'm a freestyle mind we'll be on the road in 45 minutes
Starting point is 00:14:50 we'll be at outback steakhouse bubba in 45 minutes i'm fucking starving and i gotta take a shit you know what to even hear yeah to take a shit part i believe but to even hear my husband try to plan out something is hilarious because i have to plan everything that dude is like a hot air balloon I gotta catch him and like bring him down to earth everything I am just that's hilarious okay so you went from doing you know freestyle quote-unquote battles in school and then when did you decide hey you know what I'm gonna start taking this in the studio and I want to record an album well so I guess my sophomore year in high school it got to the point where like all the all the football players it got to the point to where like after I've been rapping for two or three years in school
Starting point is 00:15:38 people would come over to the lunch table just for my verse and they would just wait they listen everybody else's verse and then by the time I was done they just like oh god it fucking went crazy so like seeing the response from my peers is what really made me want to pursue it and then um the three six mafia album the end they had and they've never done this before but they put just an instrumental at the very end of that album. Just an instrumental. No lyrics or nothing. And I was like, ooh, I'm going to use this instrumental. Because, I mean, back in the day, you couldn't buy beats in the 90s and shit.
Starting point is 00:16:12 People weren't doing that. No. You can buy them off, like, fucking the internet now. It's crazy. You can actually text you a beat now. Yeah. But, like, so I literally went home, popped that CD in, got my other little player, hit play record, and rapped into that little tiny little microphone and made my first demo tape.
Starting point is 00:16:31 So I took it to the guys that was in my neighborhood. They had a little three, four white guy rap group. It was the only white boys in the neighborhood that could rap. And I just came to them. They were like three, four years older than me. I was like, look, y'all need one more person. Here's my demo. And it was like a cassette. I'm like three, four years older than me. I was like, look, y'all need one more person. Here's my demo, and it was like a cassette. I'm like, play the motherfucker, trust me.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And they did. They liked me. They ended up getting on like that out, their next mixtape. And my dad, one night we were all out in front of my mom and dad's house. It was like 10 o'clock. We were all beating on the back of my mom's cutlass, making the beat and stuff. And that actual night, I did freestyle some stuff just off the top of my head. You felt like the pressure to have to do it?
Starting point is 00:17:09 Well, yeah, well, not only that. Like, it was me and some of my closest friends that know I can rap. Right. And I went inside to get, like, a glass of sweet tea or something, and my dad had been sitting on the porch in the dark the whole time listening to us. I didn't even know he was up there. So as I'm walking by, he's like, hey. And's like hey i was like whoa shit you scared the fuck out of
Starting point is 00:17:27 me he's like uh was that you i was like what do you mean he's like when all your black buddies just went oh was that you that did that like yeah that was me and he was like well i get my income tax check in like two weeks what could you do with 1500 could you make a demo and i was like fuck yeah i could i'll bring you the receipt i will spend every penny of that shit on a demo he went from breaking cds to making your first realizing that i had it was something there so sure enough like two weeks go by he walks in my bedroom i'm sitting there like playing video games or some shit he just gives me a check for ten hundred dollars and he was like uh take that to the bank put that in your account and start start doing what the fuck you said you was going to do.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And within like three months, me and the other guys had a full demo tape made up. And just for the record, they never paid my dad a penny from that shit. I don't mess with them no more anyways. But like five, six years go by. This is after I'm already with 3-6. And I had a real nice fat little check come in and i was like i'm gonna pay that back tenfold i took that 15 grand cash and just said it i took it just set it on the coffee table i basically made it rain on the coffee table what is this i
Starting point is 00:18:35 was like this is your 100 return this is your investment this is your 100 return return investment he was like you i don't need this i was say it's not about needing it I needed that 1500 so this is yours oh he was like are you good I said just I still got 140 grand the bank I'm straight that that weekend he went bought a bass boat motorcycle oh he's living his best life it was so I know I did that makes me so sad I think one thing that is probably the hardest thing to ever watch is your spouse go through losing a parent like jay is still he can't talk about it without crying even like when um you know when when buddy passed you know i reached out to jelly like immediately yeah and because i know what he's going through and uh when we were
Starting point is 00:19:23 at the rhyme and i said you know they're up there watching you right he was like how the fuck you think we got here he's like we've always had them guardian angels watching us no that's that's i just i hate it because you can hear the pain in your voice when you talk about your dad you know so i mean but at the same time you know like and the love he i don't it's it's crazy it's like he passed in 08 and now like every year for his birthday we throw him a big ass birthday party she she throws him a party for years we were the first couple years we would throw a party like a cookout on the day he died but then the more the older I get I've woken up what the last three years and just couldn't figure out why this why I'm in a
Starting point is 00:20:01 fucked up mood and by the end of the night i'm like fuck today was the day dad died that's why so the healing process of that is getting better for the simple fact that that date don't bother me no more that bad but we always make sure we throw the fuck down on his birthday like the first year she did it she did it as a surprise oh my god it's so hard i was like phoenix xanax on the way home from a show. I'm like, just go to sleep. She said, just here, eat that. Eat that. I got some phone calls. You want some crown? You want to take a nap?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Wendell, drive faster. Yeah. I should have brought my crown. Is Wendell still around? I remember when I met you guys six years ago, he was around. We're still super good friends. He don't work for me no more. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I just talked to him the other day after, you know, Wes Phillips passing. Yeah, that's fucking horrible, man. All right. It's crazy. Especially when people like our age are passing. It's just like, bro. I mean, he's only six months older than me, and I'm 39. Yeah, just crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It's scary. It's terrifying. Well, let's bring it back. So did you meet Jay before you signed with 3-6 or after? It was actually right after. I'd say six months after Doubt Me Now first album dropped so this was like 2003 2004 well let's talk about you signing with three six and then we'll get into you and daddy roll but so a daddy roll so um you dropped your first album with your dad's money that he invested
Starting point is 00:21:18 right and then from there what happened so the guys that i was rapping with at the time it's actually a pretty crazy story like so I was working at this warehouse. It was like a warehouse for feds. I could not see you working in a warehouse. I don't like people. Yeah, I was going to say. You would have a bunch of alleged situations going on. I mean, my very last job was a manager at Blockbuster.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Who the fuck makes me a manager? I was stealing DVDs, allegedly, and all kind of shit i was still running little mermaid at that same block yeah that guy sounds like it sounds fucked up when she says i wonder if you guys crossed paths because i worked like every day and i little mermaid was always but like so the day uh so i was working at this warehouse it was actually like a off-site warehouse for FedEx. Or like, I guess you'd say, the employee catalog where they order golf balls and shit like that. Just like mugs.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And it was one of those little small warehouses. And I was working there. We were listening to K97 that day. And Mike, my supervisor, I'll never forget it. Paul and Juicy were like, hey, just to let y'all know, we're in the process of looking for a couple new artists. If y'all see us in the street, give us your demo. Don't be afraid to walk up and speak. You know, we're genuine dudes.
Starting point is 00:22:33 We're good people. Just come holler at us. Give us your demo. I would be scared of them. I had just given Mike, my supervisor, the demo the day before. Because I went and got like 500 cassettes pressed up packaged barcodes the whole line brought my dad back his 17 days back in the days god i missed some days i know and um mike's like uh man you should just leave work right now and go to k97 and i said mike
Starting point is 00:22:58 i got a baby on the way i can't miss i can't lose this job my baby mom was three months four months pregnant whatever she was at the time so come to find out I get home later on that night I can still taste that night my mom made
Starting point is 00:23:14 fucking spaghetti with chef salads and fucking french bread I still remember like it was yesterday so I just got off work I'm making my plate the phone rings
Starting point is 00:23:22 my dad answers it my dad it was the house phone of course my dad answers the house phone my dad's like pat telephone it's it's it's your boy whatever and i answered he's like bro so today three six mafia was at k97 we took him our demo i was like what he was like yeah i was like bullshit he's like no they want to meet with us like tomorrow or the next day i'm like dude look dude, look, I just got off work.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I'm hungry. I ain't got time for this shit. I don't got time for these games. I hung up on him. He calls me right back immediately. He's like, this is not a drill. Three Six Mafia has our demo. They listen to it.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And within an hour, they call us back. So I go back to work the next day. And I tell Mike, I'm like, dude, the world works in mysterious ways. And I told him about them going to drop the demo off and me not having to lose my fucking job. And I was like, he was like, well, what you need me to do? I said, look, one of them is supposed to call tomorrow afternoon at five. He's like, so what's the big deal? I was like, I don't get off work till six.
Starting point is 00:24:17 He's like, not tomorrow. You're getting off at 430 tomorrow. You need this. Because he was like, he really wanted me to win. Yeah. And it was your number on the mixtape yeah and it was my mom and dad's phone number on the back of the mix the house number was on the back of the mixtape so like my fucking house number blew up every day
Starting point is 00:24:35 once and because once they got into circulation oh yeah we were like the most talked about shit in our neighborhood yeah but they everybody knew something was about to happen between either all of us or one of us right and um i go over to dude's house and he's like out on the front porch on the phone he's like hold on one minute i'm gonna have everybody around the speakerphone and i'm cracking a joke i'm like oh who's that dj paul and he goes he comes the phone he goes no it's fucking juicy j shut up i'm like is this shit real because i'm still in disbelief so we crowd around the old conference phone put it on speakerphone and sure enough hey guys what's up man it's juicy j man hey man i just wanted to know man y'all got some hard shit man i know uh man we want to we want to meet you guys man y'all come to the studio tomorrow
Starting point is 00:25:20 i called mike soon as soon as we left that meeting i said mike i will not be coming into work tomorrow because they want to really see us this shit is real so we ended up going up there how are you feeling were you like nervous well the problem was i think all three of the other guys in the group saw me as a threat because i was younger well i was easier and marketable the talent um sexiness. Yes. I'll let you speak on that one. My overall sexiness. So I get home, and I'm calling all the guys.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Like, hey, man, we got to be at the studio. It's going straight to voicemail. Every one of them. I'm like, these motherfuckers done left me. And they did. Wow. So they were hating from the gate. From the gate.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Hating from the gate. And your dad is the one that fucking invested in the damn CD. And then it hit me. Go to the caller ID. I scrolled back. Oh, my God. I remember caller ID. I had to think.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I was like, caller ID. I scrolled back like three days. And sure enough, Hypnotize Mind Studio was one of the missed calls that they called during the day. I was at work. My dad was at work. They probably wanted you anyways. I'm getting to it.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Okay. I was going to say they probably, I remember two, eight, one, one, one, one,
Starting point is 00:26:37 seven. I still remember the fucking number. That's so crazy, man. So I called the number and poncho, their old security that worked the front desk in the reception area answers, and he's like, what's up,
Starting point is 00:26:49 I was like hey this is Lil White, are there three white rappers in there, he's like yeah it's supposed to be four of them, that's what I heard, I was like yeah it's me, what's the damn address to the studio, these motherfuckers left me, he's like oh that's messed up man,
Starting point is 00:27:02 he's like 301 Washington Avenue, suite 302, pound 1802 at the gate, remember that shit like there's nothing so i pull up i'm in my mom's two-door cutlass baby blue oh my god i wrecked one a green one and man i pull up and i'm like if this code actually works this is gonna. So I'm at pound 1802. Gate opens up. I pull around. There's like Mercedes everywhere and Rolls Royces. Oh, you know Paul and his fucking fancy schmancy car.
Starting point is 00:27:33 It's a Capricorn thing. When I saw that goddamn big body Benz blacked out, black rims, I was like, well, I'm here. And then I looked underneath the back. I have arrived. I looked underneath where you can see the back, like the parking spot, and it said parking for hypnotized minds dj paul juicy j i was like this is insane so i went upstairs i opened the door when poncho opened the door let me it was so weird because i got to the door i could see my reflection in the wood door and i was just like this is happening
Starting point is 00:27:58 this is fucking really happening three six mafias on the other side of this door and i'd never been to a concert i've never met him i never attempted to meet him and uh i walk in and paul's sitting in like a swivel chair like just a office chair or whatever and he's watching a game or something and he spins around real slow like fucking dr evil or some shit and he goes you must be a little white and i was like yeah and i look around the other guys in the fucking room like forget somebody yeah and they were like oh hey white we were just about to call you blah blah blah fuck off what douchebags so uh while we're in there like within the first 15 minutes that we were there hey juicy how much you pay for that watch how
Starting point is 00:28:43 much the mercedes cost outside y'all got some bad bitches i know y'all got some good drugs in here and i just stood up and i walked away from that conversation i walked down the hallway and in the hallway it was all their plaques and all their golden platinum records and shit i'm just i'm just reading all of them like surreal i'm just reading all of them and paul got up from the conversation he walked upstairs he saw me in the hallway and he put his arm around me and he was like you want you one of those i was like i want a lot of these i was like but i refuse to be part of the conversation they're in down there i was like because that conversation ain't shit until you get my bed until you get one of these you ain't finna get no fucking car, flashy fucking diamond watch,
Starting point is 00:29:25 or none of that shit until you make the music and make the money. Yeah. Paul was like, you're a smart kid. How old are you? I was like, 17. He was like, fuck, 17? You're a baby. He was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:36 He was like, how old are they? I'm like 23, 24, whatever. He was like, okay. He was like, all right. I see what's going on here. So like six months go through negotiations and shit. We're all walking on eggshells for six months. The whole band?
Starting point is 00:29:51 The whole group, yeah. Did you guys have a name? It was the SFC, the Shelby Forest clique. Okay, gotcha. I'm only answering this because it's you, Bunny. I love you. That's an exclusive. That's an exclusive.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So about six months go by we get a call both of me and uh dale the main leader dude or whatever we get a call and he's like it's our attorney and our music attorney he's like uh i got good news and i got bad news you know we all crowded around the fucking conference phone again and at this point i'm over at his house and it's like about 15 of them and i'm there by myself and they've all been like best friends for decades and so we're all sitting there and he's like all right what's the good news and dude the attorney's like well the good news is the contract's in and it's a pretty good contract it's a decent contract for you know first time you know new artist he's like okay well what's the bad news? The bad news is
Starting point is 00:30:45 it's only for Lil White's solo deal. Yes. There's like, but in the process, if the solo deal goes well, y'all will be on the album and y'all will have
Starting point is 00:30:55 a group album afterwards. We're just going to test the waters with the solo deal. And everybody was like, oh, okay, whatever. They were fucking so pissed.
Starting point is 00:31:02 We hung up the phone and the main dude, he leans forward, he goes, so what you what you gonna do you going with them or us i mean you motherfuckers left me like is that even a fucking what did you just am i going with y'all or three six mafia you tell me so they actually ended up backing me out to my car like i had to walk backwards because i was like scared because they wanted to like fight you there was 15 of them they was ready to rip me apart and throw me in the lake next door and man i walked backwards to my car i said look man i got some thinking to do i'm going home i will call y'all tomorrow and then like you know
Starting point is 00:31:42 as soon as i got home i talked to my dad about it my dad was like man fuck them guys and guys still ain't even paid me a penny from the 1500 and under that shit yeah and uh I called DJ Paul and I was like cuz Paul and juicy both gave me their phone numbers at night the studio and it was like look we ain't giving out our phone numbers to everybody but if you need anything you call me so I called Paul but sitting on the back of my dad's pickup truck just sitting out there just in disbelief of everything just happened i'm smoking me it's like a face i mean and you're you're still a baby you're literally 17 yeah i'm literally 17 no matter if you're having kids on the way and fucking record deals it's still a lot to take in at that age so i called
Starting point is 00:32:19 paul and i'm like you ain't gonna believe this shit i'm like bro these folks are already beefing with me he said oh y'all must have got the call from the lawyer. I was like, yeah, we did. I love how Paul's so nonchalant about it. I love how Paul, he's still, he's always like that. He's fucking hilarious. So like, he goes, he's so stupid. I said, guess what they asked me?
Starting point is 00:32:37 He said, what? I was like, they asked me what I was going to do. Go with them or go with y'all? He said, so what's the decision you're going to make? I was like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm on the phone with you. I had to basically run out of their house to keep from getting shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Don't fuck this up, Paul. And he was like, and the next thing you know, for like the next six, probably the next year, every time they would drive by my house, throwing shit at my house, just fucking terrorizing my neighborhood and shit. And, you know, they got the best of us a couple times. We beat the shit out of them a few times. And one fateful evening after I signed, my parents had to go sign my contract. This was probably a month after I signed my contract.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I was out of town somewhere with some friends. I want to say we were at, like, Spring River or something like that. We were out just doing some redneck white boy shit shit four-wheelers and canoes and stuff i get a phone call one of my partners got a phone call from my dad because my phone was dead and they were like pat needs to come home asap and i'm like what the fuck happened kind of find out they sent a crackhead to my mom and dad's house to whoop my ass and i wasn't there all because they didn't get signed yeah so they beat the shit out of my mom and gave her brain damage oh my god and it kicked in early stages of dementia and alzheimer's and she fucking lost her mind so
Starting point is 00:33:57 and it's like they know they know what they did you know what i mean are these guys still the extent of what happened to her are these guys still around like are they still around but like are they in prison or are they just fucking losers yeah one of them the the main guy that did it he went to jail for accidentally killing his girlfriend oh sounds like a great person and um yeah i mean they they they got karma that's been handed to them left and right. One of the main dudes who started all the bullshit, from what I hear, he's basically a walking deathbed. He's done so many drugs.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I think I got most of them finally blocked on his social media because he would make a post and they'd be like, White stole my lyrics back in the day. And I'm just like, God saw there's people that do that to jay too and it's like literally i'll i'll hit them up and be like okay oh so you guys had a bad business deal let me write you a check or jay will be like let's write you a check if it's such a problem or if it's like a legit issue and they they don't want the money they just want to talk shit they want to you know they want the cloud to be like yeah I stole that lyric yeah well yeah
Starting point is 00:35:05 me and Jelly are the same way if I use someone else's lyric I'm gonna give them props in that verse like you know I've even quoted a couple of Jelly Roll lyrics like Totem Pole say something something something but people don't pay homage
Starting point is 00:35:21 that's what it is and that 9 times out of 10 that's all these motherfuckers want and I don't pay homage that's what it is yeah and that nine times out of ten that's all these motherfuckers won't yeah they just want the clout and i don't even do that unless it's one of my partners like if it's a dj paul or juicy line or something yeah and i'll always pay homage to the person who said it first and i shit i've i can tell you jelly ain't stolen by his fucking no i these are more like people who are like oh he slept on our couch and you know we funded some of his mute his studio time and if it's legit Jay's like cool let's write him a check and
Starting point is 00:35:49 I'll be like okay I'll just slide in their DM instead of you making a post talking shit about how much of his wife's a whore and fucking all this other shit let us write you a check and then they'll be like no it's
Starting point is 00:35:59 alright we don't want your money you just would rather sit there and fucking talk shit like people are just fucking miserable I mean they did get off on it I literally spend like every morning i wake up and i go through all the comments like even the the the r.i.p west up they were talking about him they were talking about jelly they were like this is you're missing the whole point he just lost his
Starting point is 00:36:20 best fucking friend and y'all here and then they're like putting his song lyrics like don't do the lyrics to oxycontin on rp posts yeah that's terrible or people don't know how to read the room hey check out my music hey man i'm clearly crying right now yeah do you think i want to listen to you yeah that song oh no i literally had a post the other day about how i had depression and i have like 10 people in my dms asking me for money it's like bro i fucking feel like i want to hang myself today like and you literally all you're asking me for is to can i hold a hot 20 before you you know oh no they asked me for these motherfuckers are like can you pay like 5 000 for this i want to get my body i had people who asked me to get their body done for them like it's just
Starting point is 00:36:58 it's the craziest thing ever but they people just don't know how to read a room anymore you know i i said this the other day on a podcast we were doing. The internet has made people comfortable with saying shit that they would never say to somebody's face. Never say it to their face. They forget that our generation grew up liking to fight. I like to fight. I still get in trouble. I'm not allowed to fight anybody.
Starting point is 00:37:16 The one time I went to swing on somebody, he grabbed me and he like hanged me to like two of the big homies. And I'm like, this is bullshit. I grabbed her. I had to hook her arm and I was like, take her. Listen. If somebody touches her, you big fuckers rip that motherfucker in half. I'm like, this is bullshit. I grabbed her. I had to hook her arm. And I was like, take her. Listen. If somebody touches her, you big fuckers rip that motherfucker in half. I don't need to break a nail I can fight. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I am so crazy. I want to go through your entire friends list, find your wife, your grandmother. I want to find out where you work. I want to fucking wreck your life. You know? Like, I'm not crazy. So, yeah. Oh, your favorite teacher was your third grade English teacher?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah. That bitch is dead. Yeah. No, for sure. All right. So, your favorite teacher was your third grade English teacher? Yeah. That bitch is dead. Yeah, no, for sure. All right, so let's bring it back. So you signed with 3Six, and then from there, you guys made your solo album, or you did an album with them? We made the solo album, Doubt Me Now. The first actual track they put me on, it was Crash the Club, and they put it on Project Pat bonus disc.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Project Pat, whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop. Mr. Pata project pat yeah he's an aquarius like me i just found that out i was like i knew i was gangster yeah um so they put it on they put it on a bonus disc and nobody knew i was white everybody just thought i was some new artist for three six and i was like dude it's hard as fuck so even though when we when we ended up coming out and dropping the album paul made the album cover black and white like the scarface cover so people still couldn't figure out if i was black or white right because i guess just hearing you you would sound like a black artist i mean i've heard that a lot i mean the older i get i hear my countryness come out you know because even though i lived in the hood you know i went out to my godfather's farm every summer and stayed the whole summer and
Starting point is 00:38:45 got my my good old boy in i thought the same thing though when i first heard his the the demo with the group before he got signed up yeah she actually heard my demo and i was like i like that one dude who's that like yeah my my best friend was dating some little redneck dude out in like millington he's like that's a little white and i'm like why is his name little white like why is a black guy going by little white and they're like no no he's super cool and i'm like whatever y'all little little did you know you'd be slobbing his knob later on in life i still get so i still like have like little moments for like from the studio doing something i'm like yeah that's mine. Y'all the bitches couldn't handle that. Shit,
Starting point is 00:39:27 I see Jay in the studio and I'm like, who wants to come suck it? Who's going to suck it tonight? I swear we were just in the studio with Justin Time. Shout out to Justin Time.
Starting point is 00:39:36 We're working on this project. He's coming on the podcast too. That's a funny motherfucker. Yeah. He's got to bring his buddy Big Murph with him though. Murph is one of the funniest
Starting point is 00:39:43 people I've ever met in my life. Oh, that's awesome. But every time I walked out the booth, she had these like, I'm going to fuck the shit out of you guys. I always like to send them, I'm like, let me see, let me see, let me see your nutsack.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And they'll come back and I'm like, thanks baby, that's the nutsack I was looking for. He was like, so I did good? I'm like, yes. Put your balls in this verse, babe. Put your dick and balls in this feature. Just fuck that verse, baby. Fuck the shit out of that verse.
Starting point is 00:40:07 But yeah, so after we dropped my first album, E, Eric, from out here in Nashville, he put that, I can't think of his name. Yeah, fucking, he's, yes. Yes, me too. Yep, he's come around to a few times in the six years Jay and I have been together. Not come around to a few times in the six years jay and i have been together not come around us but reared his ugly head he put together a tour with me jelly stack struggle
Starting point is 00:40:35 alexander king i want to say nashvillain was there uh one or two more people i can't remember who it was so like we pull up at this hotel in knoxville and it's just like me and one other my partner that used to ride with me and shit and dj so when did you before you get into that tour it did so when did you meet jay that's what that this is this is the tour okay so you didn't even know who they were you were just going on tour with them i knew of stack i'd never met stack right i knew of stack because i'd heard some of his music it didn't get played a lot in memphis because memphis is just so hood but i definitely had heard of him and um i pull up and of course it was back in the day the outdoor hotel rooms with the fucking crime scene oh yeah
Starting point is 00:41:16 and uh those are my favorite i look up on the hourly ones i look up on the on the second floor balcony you know that walks to your rooms and there's like the goon platoon and i mean it's all of them up there and i'm like fuck i'm like it's just me and you i ain't bringing no gun i don't know these motherfuckers for shit and of course when we first walked up i love that you guys are also a gangster because people would never think that you guys were but like jay moves like that too like we're not gonna get into his gangster shit we all know about jay's gang but i just love that you guys are like you know gangsters and it's just like you know not the typical gangster though so you can take the girl at the hooves right exactly exactly i'm like looking at all these big men this was back when you know struggle fat. Jelly was a little bigger than he is now.
Starting point is 00:42:06 He had braids down his ass. I would have never dated him. Ew. And I walk upstairs and Stack sees me first. He goes, they got a little white right there. And Jelly turns around immediately. He's like, oh, what's up, man? We're all big fans and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And Struggle walks right up to my face, like as close to this mic as he goes. Hey, bro, you know, you sampled my grandpa. And I'm like, who the fuck is your grandpa? Waylon fucking Jennings. I was like, oh, shit. I'm about to die in Knoxville. And he like gave me this mean mug. And I know you've seen it.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Struggle's got that eye. He's like, nah, I'm just fucking with you've seen it struggles got that eye he's like nah i'm just fucking with you my whole family loves that song man y'all killed that shit i was like bro fucking scared the shit out of me there for a minute i thought you were gonna throw me off this balcony he's like nah man my whole family loves that song we love what you did with it you and especially being a juicy j dj paul track it just makes it even better he was like so y'all you're family with me now. And it was funny.
Starting point is 00:43:09 We was only on like a little 10 city run, but it was called the White Boys Can't Rap Tour. And of course, all of us can spit. Right. And it was just weird because I was the smallest and Jelly was the biggest. And we just clicked. I think it was just that. We would always joke about him being so much bigger than me and me being smaller than all of them. It's like Mutt and Jeff. Yes. The cartoon characters. It was just like, me and Jelly being smaller than all of them. It's like Mutt and Jeff, the cartoon characters.
Starting point is 00:43:26 It was just like, me and Jelly just clicked. I don't know what it was. Our personalities just clicked. And then I had so much respect for him as an artist, his stage presence as such a big dude. As such a big dude, Jelly would get on that motherfucker and rock that bitch. Oh, no, he don't fuck around. His stamina on stage, he could be fucking 500 pounds
Starting point is 00:43:45 and still fucking just run from one side of the stage to the other and bounce up and down. My little ass got up here with asthma and I spoke with Newport and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:53 slow down, Jelly got down. I can't keep up with your big ass. Yeah, no, he's got stamina, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:58 We stayed in contact over the phone, you know, throughout, after the tour and then Jelly got locked up. And as a matter of fact fat boy from jackson tennessee calls me one day and he's like yo jelly rolls out of jail and it had been like a couple few years or whatever since i talked to him like damn for real he's like also i got a feature from jelly
Starting point is 00:44:20 because he just got out and he was trying to get some money in his pocket so i threw him a few hundred dollars whatever drop on the song he was like but you got a bigger platform than I got can I give you the song and you put it on your next mixtape and I was like yeah fuck yeah so Jelly found out about that and he was like he calls me he's like what's up baba I'm fucking free and I was like man what's up I know I heard man I was like what are you doing he was like man not shitting in the studio been in a goddamn studio ever since I got home and I ain't left this bitch I've been sleeping on the couch getting up and rapping some more and blah blah blah and I'm like that's what's up man he goes look man what are you what are you doing today bubba I was like not shit it was like a
Starting point is 00:44:57 Wednesday like 10 o'clock in the morning sounds like my husband's manic ass yeah he's like what are you doing today bubba i was like i'm actually absolutely absolutely nothing to be honest he's like well listen here i got about 40 fucking songs i want you to hear you need to come to nashville today and i was like i was like he does have to derail all the time too he said something that and i'm not gonna say no names because everybody's gonna figure it out on their own. But he was like, when I got out of jail, the person that was supposed to fuck with me the hardest ain't paid me no attention. And I know you got my back. So come see what I got and fuck that other dude.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And I was like, all right. Is it the same dude who's not doing anything with his life? I think we're on the same page. Yeah. So you're about 99.9999% accurate on that one. Yeah. So me, my ex-business partner, and my DJ at the time, Flip. Shout out to Flip.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Flip, the one that lives in Washington now? Oh, we love Flip. Okay, very cool. That's my fucking brother from another movie. Yeah, he's a sweetheart. I love his whole family. Flip was like... They're awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:03 It's funny, too, because on the way there, we pull up. It was when Struggle had his mass bomb studio in the office building. And we pull up. Jelly comes out. Braids are gone. He's got a fresh fade. He's all fresh as hell. Struggle's braids are gone.
Starting point is 00:46:21 It's been like four years since I've seen these guys. Y'all's glow up is beautiful. So Jelly picks me up so tight. He popped every bone in my back and my sides. Doesn't he give the best bear hugs? Oh, my God, yes. I love those. So he picked me up.
Starting point is 00:46:35 He was like, what are you doing, Bubba? You're just dangling. Yeah, my feet are just like kicking. He's got me in midair. I'm just like, I'm here to listen to some music, Jelly. He's like shaking me. He's like, guess listen to some music jelly he's like he's like shaking me he's like guess what i just set up for us i was like what he was like i got us two weeks in panama city beach spring break we got six shows booked we leave next week i'm like dude i got kids
Starting point is 00:46:57 i can't just i gotta figure this out you gotta he's like you figure it out bubba you got baby mamas okay now tell them bitches to figure it out story of his life that's how he still is tell them bitches to figure it out take them to their grandparents house i don't give a shit, Bubba. You got baby mamas. Okay? Now tell them bitches to figure it out. Story of his life. That's how he still is. Tell them bitches to figure it out. Take them to their grandparents' house. I don't give a fuck what you got to do. Make them 100 Hot Pockets. Put them in the microwave.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I don't care. He's like, we got six shows in PCB. He's like, I'm taking 10,000 deal or no deal mixtapes, and we're giving them all out for free, and we're going to flood them. And by day four four on and downtown down in panama city almost every car on the street was jamming fucking no deal no deal no and i mean it was just like we was constantly looking at each other i'm like dude this is it bro you're something special bro i told him that too when i first met him like even the first time i heard him sing you know
Starting point is 00:47:43 the first time i heard him sing like he would just walk around the studio walk around the house humming shit but when we did the snow album and he sung pain no more she won't feel that pain no more and i was like bro when did you write that he said i wrote that in prison but i've been sitting on this for a minute and the chick that was in the car with us is fucking boohoo and crying while he's singing and i'm like i'm like this is what you do to people i mean i'm tearing up at watching her crying i'm just like jelly look you're one of the most amazing rappers on the planet but you've got to start crossing the singing and rapping and dude that's your calling bro that's why i like it the rhyming man just seeing him up there man i've teared up so big it was just like god yeah because i saw it before a lot of people did and he'll he'll he's
Starting point is 00:48:33 done a few interviews in the last you know year or so and he makes sure he lets people know white saw that shit before anybody did and uh he loves you you're patrick landshaw that's all i hear so adorable when they're together oh no I love when they're together like they got me tearing up right now no no Jay really loves you dude like hula hand yeah hula hand Patrick yeah he loves you so much like anytime he talks about you he literally lights up and like he always wants to dedicate so much attention and time to you that's why he was like real picky about when he sits down with you because he and like he always wants to dedicate so much attention and time to you that's why he was like real picky about when he sits down with you because he's like he wants to invest
Starting point is 00:49:09 himself in your whole situation you know it's just the cutest thing you guys have the cutest well like even at the rhyming when they gave him you know when the lady told him about the grand old opry like after she walked off and stuff i walked over and put my hand on his shoulder i was like congratulations and mean turn around pick me up again what are we doing bubble how did i get here i said brother you are the goat you deserve all this shit you're the goat bro you're the fucking goat to the day to this day my favorite album that my husband has done is no filter 2 with you no filter 2 is retarded i fucking bump that shit all the time jamming i jam we listen jam. I listen to it on almost every road trip.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Dude, I love No Filter 2. I'm like, when can we put this on fucking Instagram and shit? Like, I want to be able to put it in my stories when I'm half naked. No Filter 1 and 2 are bangers, man. Yeah. And see, that's why, like, you know, like when she reached out to you about the whole West thing. You know, West, No Filter 1, that was all West pushing that to get that budget for us,
Starting point is 00:50:03 to get that tour bus, to get that tour bus to get that fucking 10 by 10 backdrop made and shit you know just the last cut the last week i've really just been just reminiscing on all the shit the dude really did for all of us and like yeah it was definitely a he definitely believed in jelly like a motherfucker he believed in me and it's just you know when you got somebody that believes that much and what you do that's no longer here it's tough you know yeah especially that somebody that's seen you guys from the beginning you know because you guys are such loyal souls too that's one thing i do like me coming from the west coast the men on the west coast fucking are at each
Starting point is 00:50:39 other's throats they don't give a fuck they're snakes to each other and i'll be the first one to say it but you guys out here have like such a camaraderie even if you don't really fuck with each other 24 7 you guys fuck with each other like even you know me and jelly's gotten into plenty of arguments and fucking different fights and shit but like as soon as we see each other again it's like what was that all about yeah come here give me a hug because you guys are brothers there's it's just brothers brotherly love it ain't like we're friends we've been doing this we've been rocking for since 2004 basically i mean shoot we're going on a 20-year friendship man yeah no you guys it's it's definitely special what you guys have let's navigate into when you and nicole met so when did you guys first cross paths
Starting point is 00:51:22 well technically we crossed paths when she was about seven years old. Eight years old at a fucking Blockbuster, and I didn't even look at her that way. She was renting Little Mermaid. Well, after my Little Mermaid days. Well, it was funny, because Blockbuster really was my last job. When Paul said, all right, it's time to start recording, I literally took my shirt off right then, threw my shirt at the manager, and was like, deuces. Rolled out of my homeboy's two-door C thank god because like pat loud as hell blockbusters out of fucking business anyways are we good there's still one left are we good okay i was just
Starting point is 00:51:51 checking is there oh yeah it's in oregon yeah yeah i just watched the fucking i did too it's pretty good you guys want to watch a good fucking documentary watch the von dutch documentary it'll blow your fucking mind oh it's insane we started but crown won that night well get past the first one or two episodes and that motherfucker is yeah it blows your mind actually i made it like second episode you passed out but i turned it off all right so besides meeting when she was seven when did you guys fast forward to that so yeah i was a bartender at 152 on Beale Street, which was like the VIP club that was open until 5 a.m. that no one ever wanted to go to, but everybody ended up there. And he walked up to my bar one day and my friend Renee was bartending.
Starting point is 00:52:34 She was like, look, she's like Lil' White's over there. I was like, oh, hold on. And I just went. I picked up my Crown and Croak. Crown and Croak. Crown and Coke. I mean, you will croak if you drink too many of them. So I handed him a crown and coke and he was
Starting point is 00:52:45 like here you go crown and coke he's like how the fuck did you know what i like she's like i listen to your music like if anyone offered you anything but a crown and coke then the so like yeah for like maybe what the next two to three four years every time i would come up there i would pass all the other bartenders two to, four years it took you to get in her pants? Well, no. I was married. She was married at the time. And I was going through single little white mode.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Okay. I was trying to hit everything that had a moist spot on it. Oh, moist. I know. That's the only time a man should be able to use that word. It's talking about a vagina. A wet spot. The general manager was like, she's married, white.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Leave her alone. All right. Whatever. And then i would bring like bitches from out of town from like being on the road i did come into memphis and i'd bring them in in 152 she'd either she would do one of two things she would make them a little tiny ass drink that didn't have no alcohol in it to where the bitch would not be fuck ready or she would double double up my drinks where i'd be just like he would come he would get his crown and coke and he'd like order these females like fucking like some pussy ass like sex on the beach shit and i'm like no she's not getting drunk on those right she's just an actual whore and she's using alcohol as an excuse to be a slut for the night that's like these effects and we love whores don't get me wrong i love me a good whore
Starting point is 00:54:03 gotta be open about it though right she's like don't act like you're not a whore so then he would he would get a like a shot of fireball or something i'm like what do you want to take a shot with me like so you don't take a shot by yourself because i was like or he's like i don't want i'm not buying shots for these bitches like no i was like well i'll take a shot with you because i'm the bartender you don't gotta buy me a shot but you're not gonna take shots solo nobody does that right and he'd be drunk as shit by the night and looking back now he'd be like you do realize you cock blocked me a bunch of times sorry not sorry whoopsies didn't mean to so it's funny i just told her this on the way here like um i'd say like the week before i really asked her out i broke up with like four bitches because I had a
Starting point is 00:54:46 bitch in Ohio a bitch in Indiana that's how Jay was a bitch in Atlanta a bitch in Florida little scurvy hoes it was a lot of work that's why I just got to the point where they all knew about you can't even match your socks how did you keep up with yeah that's what I say to Jay I'm like you didn't like wow I called them different names and then I started calling all of them babe. Yeah, that's what I do. I call them all baby. Everybody's honey and darling and babe. So I literally was just like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:10 I'm sick of you bitches. Because two of them found out a bit about each other and just went on this Facebook fucking rant, calling me everything in the book. He's a slut. He's a whore. He's fucked me. And then all these other bitches start chiming in. He fucked me, too, and left me in a hotel room at 3 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I'm like, oh, my God, this is getting out of hand. This is getting bad. You're lucky this wasn't during the Me Too movement. Jesus. I swear to God, I told her. I said, there's going to be allegations in the future. Well, I mean, allegedly. Just give me your heads up.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So I finally just broke up with these four girls that I'd been talking to. I didn't go see them all the time. I'd just top it up, go see them when I could or whatever. And I just broke it off with all four of them. I was like, you know i didn't go see them all the time i just top it up go see him when i could whatever and i just broke it off at all four of them i was like you know what i'm done with for a minute let's get back to the studio let's get back to the bag yeah these hoes don't worry about the when the right one comes along she'll come along and i swear to god bunny the second i quit looking i go up to my side car i mean 152 a buddy of mine had just gotten out of jail. He just did like two years in jail.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And it was one of our home girls birthday, Tori who that she's a lesbian. So she was going out with like 30 lesbians and I was, I was going to be the only guy with them. Oh man. I'm like, fuck yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 00:56:17 So I called Paul, my buddy, not DJ Paul, but Paul from the neighborhood. And I'm like, Paul, you just got out of jail. You just did two,
Starting point is 00:56:23 three years. I know you ain't seen scissoring 30 lesbians yeah scissoring you ain't seen some drunk lesbians getting it on
Starting point is 00:56:31 I said do you want to go with me to 152 my whole bar was probably about this side because I was like in the back corner now
Starting point is 00:56:36 and like all my regulars just swarmed so you like to see the whole club and you see like 30 females just grinding on each other making out
Starting point is 00:56:43 and just me throwing drinks at them and I'm over here like Paul's over here like this has been the greatest day of my life he's like I don't even You see like 30 females just grinding on each other and making out. And it's me throwing drinks at them. Paul's over here like, this has been the greatest day of my life. He's like, I don't even want to fuck none of these bitches. I was like, well, just to let you know. You can't. You're not.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You can try. I've tried. They don't want me. I'm famous, motherfucker. You just got out of prison. So it was her birthday night. And I remember I walked up to the bar i was telling paul i was like i was like look it's fun kicking with all these lesbians and stuff because it's cool to just walk in with the only guy with like 30 bitches around my arms and shit i was
Starting point is 00:57:16 like but this isn't what i want it's not it's not what i want and i went to the bar and she come out from behind the bar and gave me a big hug which has never happened usually it's crown of coke how you being white good to see you well she kept it respectful because she was married i'll tip her i'll just tell her 20 30 bucks before she can give me my drink i'm like here put that in your in your boot or wherever the fuck you put that that's your tip for the night and uh she came out from behind the bar and gave me the biggest hug onto my right foot up in the air and like just hold the squeeze and I'm like something's changed this is the same chick I saw two weekends ago and one of my homies that worked security up there rowdy rowdy goes hey white she's going through a divorce man I pounced
Starting point is 00:57:59 like a tiger he yelled it yeah he said yeah you walked up to me and you're like so when are you gonna be like he like like locked me in behind my bar. He's like, so when are you going to be single? And I was like, uh, and Rowdy yells over, she's going through a divorce right now. I was like, what the fuck? I looked back at her and I was like, oh, really? I was just trying to whore it out for a little while and just get all the, but I guess he just threw me under the bus.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Threw you under the tour bus and I scooped your ass up, put you in the cargo department. But no, like like I asked her out did you guys fuck that night no god no god I wouldn't have what kind of proper fucking etiquette is this
Starting point is 00:58:32 I wouldn't have wanted nothing to do with her if she would have fucked me that night we've been through so much bullshit your friend is the opposite oh I know that
Starting point is 00:58:38 I mean we are yin and yang for a reason but no it was just like every woman that I'd talked to in the last five years that I'd been single for my baby mama fucked me that night right no it was just like every woman that i talked to in the last five years that i'd been single for my baby mama fucked me that night right and it was just like no no i told him that well technically i had to rape jay you know she told me no like four times i asked her out three times and finally the fourth time i just walked up but i said like look i'm not asking you
Starting point is 00:58:59 what time you get off work tonight i'm not asking you what you're doing tomorrow and i'm not asking you what you're doing next weekend how would you like to go get sushi on a wednesday at 7 p.m i will pick you up sushi well that's how you get in her pants you just like an offer of food women love food so she ends up sending me a picture or something at the pool and i'm like oh what apartment you are you at? You got a pool at the apartment? She's like, no, this is my house. My house has a pool.
Starting point is 00:59:29 And I'm like, ooh, check. Okay. Pull up to her house. I had no idea it was a nurse during that time. I did not know she was a nurse. Pull that mic. I didn't know she had her big girl job, too. Pull your mic down towards your mouth.
Starting point is 00:59:40 There you go. I didn't know she had a big girl job. So I'm like, wait a minute. This motherfucker drives a black Camaro, got her own two-story house with a big badass pool in the back. That's right. Check, check. She's a nurse, not just a bartender. That means insurance and fucking salary.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Check, check. And it just hit me. I was like. Oh, and then I wouldn't come see him until my kids were asleep. Yes. And I respected that. He said, I'm not getting a babysitter. I was like, uh, no.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I respected that so much, though. As a father, I respected that so much. Because there's been so many times girls were like, I'm like, well, I got my daughter. I can't go. Why don't you just sit in my watch? No, because it's my time. I have my daughter. Bitch, if you don't understand that, I don't want you nowhere around me.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So when she told me, she was like, I'm not going anywhere until my kids are asleep. And I was like, oh, she's a good girl. Aw. And then, of course, once I get with her, I found out she's a good girl and then of course once i get with her i found out she's one of the dirtiest minded little nasty little bitches on the planet captain perv in the house and then not only that on our first date i swear to god she looked like a fucking librarian oh i didn't have makeup on no skin showing sweater jeans because he's used to like booty shorts and my titties hanging out like he said the first day just look like a fucking librarian but i i like the librarian look i'm gonna say i was like i was
Starting point is 01:00:49 gonna say so did that was that part of your plan though you were like look if this motherfucker really wants to be with me he's gonna just fucking have to deal with what he gets or like is was there like a plan behind it it was like just like like no filter yeah it was just like this is me this is what i do I'm a mom first. Yeah. I don't, like, I put makeup on for you today. Yeah, I love it. But, like, I probably won't wear makeup for, like, five more days.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Bitch, I don't look like this when I wake up, okay? Trust me. It's a process. But, see, at the same time, I liked it because I've obviously seen what she looks like in little tight shorts and her tits all pushed up and makeup on at the bar when she's working, getting her tips. So to see her just come out of her house just natural. I think it wore Birkenstocks, too. Yeah, Birkenstocks.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I was like, oh, my God. I went as plain Jane as it could go. He was like, you look hot. But no, I did something very smart on the way there. I told Wendell. It was back when Wendell was working for me. I said, all right, look, we're going to do something right quick, and this is going to tell the tale of this woman's a keeper or not.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Stay tuned to next week's episode to see what happens in part two of Dumb Blonde Podcast.

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