Dumb Blonde - Martin Riese: Why Your “Healthy” Water Might Be Lying to You

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

Season 10 is officially here, and we’re kicking things off with a splash! Bunnie Xo sits down with Martin Riese, America’s first certified water sommelier, to unpack the myths, scien...ce, and politics behind what we drink. Bunnie shares her own viral “water debacle” and what she learned from testing different sources, while Martin breaks down the subtleties of water taste profiles, the role of TDS (Total Dissolved Solids), and the environmental toll of bottled water. Together, they clear the air on false claims about Mountain Valley’s arsenic levels and stress the need for transparency and fact-checking in the industry.Martin also calls out the dangers of multi-level marketing schemes, debunks the rumor that sparkling water causes cancer, and highlights how basic chemistry and proper filtration can make all the difference. He taste-tests Saratoga, Mountain Valley, and even a rare 2,000-year-old Australian water with 1,300 TDS, while critiquing Perrier’s lack of transparency. Along the way, he explains why RO systems and shower filters are worth the investment, and why America needs to improve its water infrastructure instead of relying solely on bottled brands.The conversation wraps with Martin previewing his upcoming app, Sourced, which will offer free, reliable water education, and a reminder to approach water debates with compassion, curiosity, and a commitment to the facts.Martin Riese: WebsiteWatch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:35 com backslash dumbblon podcast and sign up. Ah! Is this thing on? Hello, friends. Welcome to another podcast. I am so excited today because as you guys know, if you guys follow my social media, you possibly saw my little mountain valley water debacle that went viral. And listen, I'm just a girl. I was sad. I wanted to test my water because somebody had said some things and you can never believe everything that you see online. Long story short, I tested the water, got some results that I didn't quite understand.
Starting point is 00:04:25 But there's a man who has dedicated his life to teaching people about water. And he's actually America's first water Somalié, Mr. Martin Risa. Thank you so much. Did I say it right? Yeah, perfect. Okay, good. I'm always saying like because people always think, because I'm German. You pronounce Porsche, no it's Porsche.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So it's the same with my last name. It's not Riz, it's Rizzer. Gotcha. It's exactly the same. I love that. I am so happy you're here because I found you in my comments. And I didn't even know who you were. Like I hadn't, you have never crossed my FYP.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Like, I've never even seen any of your content. And when it started going viral on TikTok, people were like, you need to ask Martin, talk to Martin, talk to Martin. And I'm like, who's Martin? So I went over there and looked and I was like, oh, he won't come on the podcast. I didn't think you would. And then you commented on my Instagram post. And we kind of, we had a little back and forth.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yes, correct. And but at the same time, like, I love to be educated. I never want to spread misinformation. And what were you just saying a minute ago that as content? Correct. And this is like, first of all, thank you so much that I can be here. And I think it showcases even online. You did a video where, because you want the best for your followers. You want the best. I can see the passion. You want to spread the best to your followers. Yes. And I saw that video because I've been tech so many times and I almost had a heart attack. And I was like, oh, I think I need to say something. So in my very German, diplomatic way. I said like, what's up? What's going on there in this video? And you said, like, you should do some research. He said, I am the research. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh shit. I was like, did we just become best friends? No, but I think what we're learning both,
Starting point is 00:06:10 I think, from this situation, even when you disagree sometimes online, that does not mean you need to don't like the person or something like this. And you, you showcased it so beautifully to say, do know what? I want to learn. Maybe there's something I don't know what I saw in my test were like that and I totally even understand because I will tell you why it's so confusing as why these tests are so misleading to the people. So I totally get it. It's not your profession, your content creator, you're creating amazing, cool videos and fun videos. I'm a guy who just drinks water every day. I love it. And I can't wait to get into your, because I did a lot of research on you last night and I'm like just fascinated by your story. But I did want to just add to
Starting point is 00:06:50 what you said, I am never, um, always right. I love to be taught stuff. I don't want to, I think when you stop learning, you stop living. Absolutely. And I want to know. Like if I'm saying something wrong, correct me. I want, I want to take accountability for that. And obviously, what I did was not a hundred percent right. And we'll get into that later. But let's talk a little bit more about your background. Because I, first of all, I've never heard of a water small, I've heard of wine Somaliés. Sure, I like wine too, trust me. But I've never heard of water. And as I started reading about like your history and stuff like that, like you have like a real passion for water. And how did this come about? Like even as a child. It started as a child. I was four or five years old and on vacation time with my parents. I was just fascinating about the different tap borders in Europe. So we were driving in the car. I was waiting until the car stopped. We had obviously bottled. water in the car but I already had the taste why I should drink it again. So we were waiting until the car stopping and was running to the restroom when my parents always thought, man, he really
Starting point is 00:07:58 needs to go all the time. But I didn't go to the rest room. I just wanted to drink the tap water. And my mother looked at me like, what is wrong with our son? Like, why, what's going on there? Until I told them, no, I'm doing this because I like the taste of the water. And they looked at me like the taste. It's not hydration for me. Saying no, hydration is boring. I want to taste the water. And as a child, obviously I had no clue why water could have different taste profiles. I had no clue. And then, many years later, in 2005, I worked in a beautiful Michelin-Law-Star restaurant. So my background is hospitality. I worked in a Michelin law-star restaurant in Berlin, and I guess came to me and said, Martin, you have over thousand different wines on your wine
Starting point is 00:08:42 menu, but you're just serving one brand of water. And he didn't like the taste of that particular brand. and he asked me, what else do you have? And I looked at him and I remind myself with my childhood and I thought he's absolutely right. It's the restaurant business. Imagine you would go here in Nashville to a beautiful barbecue spot and they're just serving you one sausage. That's all what they're serving.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Nothing else. Or one barbecue sauce. Yeah, they would be like, that's a weird concept for a barbecue joint. Or you're going to a sports bar and the only beer they have on tap is coarse light. Right. You would be like, nothing wrong about course light.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I don't want to like blame Narcos Light or something, but it would be weird. We just have one beer. Right. So why are we doing this with water? Water has taste due to minerality and water is our most healthy and most important beverage. Without it, we wouldn't be here. Nobody would sit here in this beautiful room right now when we wouldn't have access to clean and safe drinking water. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:38 So I thought, wait a minute, I need to create a water menu. And I did this in 2005. And then the media started to pay attention of me. And they actually caught me water so much. I didn't like the title at all in the beginning. But I thought, no, Somalgae is for wine. I'm more like a water expert.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But when I told people I'm a water expert, they thought I'm working for the department of water and power. Right. They couldn't make the connection that I create water menus, talk about that you actually can pair even waters to your dishes. Yeah. We will go into this. And there's actually barbecue waters or sushi waters out there
Starting point is 00:10:11 who are pairing perfectly for your scenario, for your lifestyle. So it's like wine almost. It is like wine. It's exactly the same. like wine actually. And I thought, do know what? I'm running with water sommelier. It just makes easier. Everybody understands what that means. And I been actually certified as a water somelier in 2010 by the German Water Trade Association for Mineral Waters. I wrote a book about water on the German market. And then I came over here to the States in 2011 based on an
Starting point is 00:10:37 01 visa, the extraordinary ability visa. So for people who don't know, it's the hardest video you can apply for. So when you're an actor, you better win an Oscar on Emmy. That's your regulation for an 01. Right. When you are a scientist, you better be a Nobel Prize winner. That means when you're a sports person, athletic person, the Olympic game should be on your resume. That's what means O1. I'm the only person so far who gained an O1 for this country based on border.
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's insane. So I'm holding this O1 visa and now I became dual citizen last year in November. I'm very proud of that. So I'm even now American as well. I love that. And America welcomes you a golden arm. this country. So I'm still hung up on the fact that as a child, you were so obsessed with drinking tap water. Where do you think that came from? And what was it that made you so obsessed with it?
Starting point is 00:11:30 I believe that if you want to call it, God or Buddha or Allah, or whatever you want to call it, but I believe that every person on this planet has a special gift. Some people can paint beautiful pictures. Some people can create beautiful music. Some people have very good taste like a chef. You can create beautiful flavors that we have incredible good dishes. And somehow I ended up with a good palette as well, especially for water. But I have to say, I can taste a lot of other things as well. My nose is very sensitive. I can smell a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Water is sometimes not that fun, actually, that you can smell everything. Let's say it like that. It's tough. But I can taste a lot. And it's very interesting when I then concentrate off water, I stop drinking hard. liquor because it was too strong suddenly when I really like went into the whole passion of water as like in the mid mid mid 20s I kind of handle liquor anymore I drink beer I drink wine but I don't drink any more hard liquor it's too intense for me so it's a gift what's what
Starting point is 00:12:34 lucky me I received and yeah and somehow I can actually talk about it but it's another gift you know it as well as a content creator even when you when you have a gift that doesn't mean you have the gift as well to show it to the world right It's a different gift as well. No, but I love the way that you present yourself to the world night. You are very captivating. Thank you. My accent helps.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I love that. Well, you sound like a super villain. Like, I love it. I did not expect that voice, that accent to come out when I first clicked on one of your videos. And when you started talking, I was like, I love this man. Instantly it was just like, okay, this is so cool. No, I really appreciate that. So you grew up, you know, tasting water and just on this mission.
Starting point is 00:13:18 then you somehow got into the restaurant business though. Yeah, correct, because I liked, I liked hospitality. My father was a sommelier as well for wine. Okay. So the background is already there. Gotcha. He was trained and he was in the restaurant business. But then he left the restaurant business.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So I never saw him actually working as a sommelier in a restaurant. I saw him working in a wine store as the sommelier to recommend all the different wines. So in my family, it was always about taste and food already. So that runs in the family. my brother is a very, very good person who loves to cook for himself. I'm not really a good cook. I'm more like, I like to wash dishes. I don't have any problems with that. My wife is very happy with me that I'm happy to wash the dishes. That's a good man though. I think so, too. Happy wife, happy life. I totally agree with you. That's the reason I have a long distance relationship
Starting point is 00:14:06 with my wife. I barely see her. She lives in Alaska. I live in Los Angeles. Oh, wow. She runs a beautiful resort hotel over there, the Aliaska Resort in Gertwood. and she's a very smart cookie. I believe it. I would think that you would need that stimulation, that mental stimulation, yes. And she's a very strong woman. She used to be a professional swimmer. So she loves water as well in a different angle.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And she was actually supposed to go to the Olympic Games in 2000. But she went to become sick and she couldn't go. But she was on that level. So it's nice that we both have the connection somehow to water as well. I'm drinking it and she's swimming in it. I love that. So this is nice. I love that.
Starting point is 00:14:47 It just like you guys got to bond over water. Like water has been just a theme in your life. I wonder what you were in a past life. I wonder if you were like a dolphin or something. We'll see, huh? Like seriously. Or like a shark or a killer well. You never know.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I talk just with my wife when we're talking about like for my life. I just talked to my wife because we're all getting older and we all have to make decisions like what you're going to do at one point when you may be passing from this planet and you need to set up what you want to do. So obviously when I'm going to pass hopefully before. my wife because I'm very selfish. I need my wife surrounding me. So I don't want that my wife is going first. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:22 So obviously she will get everything, what I have right now in my life. But then we thought what are we going to do when she's passing? We don't have children and we don't want to have children. I'm crazy enough what my wife always says. Like no, there's no, like a mini me of Martin Reza that would be not fun. That's too much, too much energy. I think it would be adorable. No, I would be a very good father, but I have a lot of energy. Like my energy runs very, very high. Maybe because I drink so much water. I don't know what
Starting point is 00:15:48 it is. So we decided we want to give then the rest of the money what we own to a good cause where we're helping others to gain access to clean and safe drinking water. Because water is so important in both of our lives and I think this is something what you should do then. It doesn't make sense to give it to friends or something or like I think like there's other people on this plan who actually needs it. Way worse than we maybe need in Los Angeles. That's so beautiful. That's important. Yeah, definitely. So take me on to you created water menus. What is a water menu? Because I've never heard of this before. And I never even knew this was a profession. Yeah. So when you think about wine, let's think about wine first. And on a wine menu, you start maybe with sparkling wines. You have champagne, you have sparkling wines. Then you have the lights, some of your blouse and reeslings, lighter white wines. And then you're going to Pinanoa, so a little bit more stronger red wines. And then you're ending up maybe with a Bordeaux blend or Malo, a carbonese. Savignon. So by wine, you have a full spectrum of light wines and heavy
Starting point is 00:16:47 wines. The heavies are the red wines. The light wines are the the light reeslings or sauvian blouse. So by water, think about like all waters in the ocean. Like 97% of the water currently, what we have on this planet is in the ocean. We have around 356
Starting point is 00:17:03 million trillion gallons of water on this planet. And we're not running out of water. A lot of people are always saying we're losing water. We don't. This planet has the same amount of water since billions of years. Wow, that's... What's very important to know, I think. That is very important because they tell you something different.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Correct. The problem, what the media is saying all the time, we're running out of water, they don't mislead you, but they're not 100% correct and not 100% wrong. The problem is what we're facing due to the change of the environment, what's happening right now, because it's getting warmer and warmer on this planet. And yes, it's not just here in America. It's, trust me, I've been from Germany, we have the same issues over there. So it's not a political party problem.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It is a world problem. It's very important to me. The thing is, in certain areas, it rains too much, and other areas we barely have rain anymore. So the distribution of water is messed up now on this planet. That is the issue. And that's the reason we're saying now, we should save and conserve water in areas
Starting point is 00:18:03 where we have not enough water. So for example, in Los Angeles, it barely rains. I think the last rain was in May. That's quite a while now. It's like Vegas, too. And we don't have any forecast right now about rain. So maybe the next rain will hopefully in November or December. So we in Los Angeles need to understand how can we conserve water.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And it starts with little things about you're brushing your teeth in the morning and stop the tap in that moment and then you're starting the tap again. Or what a lot of people don't even think about it, do you need AI for everything these days? No, because I don't need to Google everything by AI because when you're using one question in AI, it takes around half a liter of water. Like this water here will be wasted by one question of AI. Because these data centers needs water badly to chill the data centers down and they're using fresh water for that. Wow. So every question in Google, one water bottle. That means I got to stop talking to chat every day. Yeah. Holy shit. It's really crazy. You can
Starting point is 00:19:06 save water by that. You would never even think that AI and water would even be intertwined. Britain right now, they put a warning up because they have a very severe drought now as well. And they said, the government said, can you please delete all your old emails? And people are like, ha? Old emails to conserve water? Yeah, because again, all these data was stored in the data hubs where they all need the water, the less they have data, the less they're using water. So please get rid of your old emails, guys, to save water actually on this planet.
Starting point is 00:19:37 That is mind-blowing. You would never think, me, even me. Like, I'm learning every day. What you already said, I'm learning every day something new. And what you said about fact-checking as well, in a lot of my videos, I'm saying, please even fact-check me. It's very important to me. Don't think because I'm Martin Rees, I'm the authority of water.
Starting point is 00:19:56 That's not mean I know everything. I'm learning every day and I want to learn. Because without learning, that would be a terrible planet, I think. Like, when I'm done and I know everything. Teach me. I love it. That would be for me, like, the most terrible thing ever. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, when you stop learning, I feel like you stop living. Yeah. So your passion for water and all things water is what led you to making these menus, but also writing books about this. You have one that you co-authored. Yeah, because it started, I realized when I created the water, I mean, it was first about giving options to my guests about the healthiest beverage on the planet. And by the way, a lot of people would be extreme surprised when I'm saying this now,
Starting point is 00:20:37 because bottled water, everybody always says, oh, it's so bad for the environment. Bottled water has the smallest impact on the environment from all bottled beverages. Why is it? Because indirect water is the key word here. Because like a Saratoga, a mountain valley, Aquapana, what you have there on the table,
Starting point is 00:20:55 for example, or Sukosani, incredible good water from Peru, by the way. I'm so proud that you have it there on the table because it's really amazing. That's a fun water. I've never had it. No, it's nice. I saw this like, wow. You have Sukosani?
Starting point is 00:21:07 like, that's for me like very special water. So these waters doesn't need to be produced because they're literally just bottling mother nature's juice. That's all what that is. Versan orange juice needs to be produced because the orange comes from a tree. The tree needs water to grow the orange. Then you need to harvest the orange. Then you need to press the orange. Then you maybe need to add something to it, what you want to add or a wine or be or whatever you want to produce. Everything needs to be produced and they're using water for this. So bottled water has the smallest impact on the environment. And you would think that because you're bottling the water,
Starting point is 00:21:43 wouldn't that make it produce more because it has to fill what you guys take? Or it's just there's an in-less supply. The thing is the water cycle. And here in America, the same in Europe. They are strict regulations. How much water are you actually allowed to pour from your spring sources? Yes, there are bad companies out there. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And I told you earlier when I walked in here and you said like, oh, this company likes you. That does not mean that every water company likes me. I have some water companies who hate me. I can't wait to get into that. Because like, it's just like, I'm just putting facts on my page or not every water company is happy about it. Right. But I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:16 When you mess up in your business, I just call it out. Well, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. Sorry, there's no, there's no gray zone for me. But the fact that you told me that there's so much drama in the water world, I'm like, I'm sat. I can't wait to hear about it. The water business is a messed up industry, in my opinion. Why do you think that is?
Starting point is 00:22:34 It starts, especially in America. because a person asked me today on my instill current. So Martin, I'm in Great Britain and you're always talking about purified water and you have it there. You have a smart water there. I see a core water over there. You have Tasani.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So this is nothing else than tap water. This is filter tap. Or smart water is boiled up tap. That's all what that is. It's boiled up tap water. They're collecting the steam, adding back some electrolytes, the fancy word for minerals or salts.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Right. That's all the same guys. So don't be afraid when Dasani says we're adding salt and smart water says we're adding electrolytes. It's exactly the same. What they're doing. It's the same. So this marketing is very messy here in America.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So the companies came up with once the idea, wait a minute, it's so much cheaper to just open the tap in the factory versus finding a spring source, making sure the spring source is actually okay to use because not every spring source is healthy. Not every spring source is actually okay to drink. from. So it's just easier for them to open their tap water
Starting point is 00:23:39 filtering everything out, highly processing it, adding back some minerals in very small amounts and calling it electrolyte infused water with a high pH of 8.5 or 9.5 in you as a consumer say, that sounds great. It's pure water. This is
Starting point is 00:23:55 healthy. Adding electrolytes. And then the pH is so important. No, the page is just a marketing gimmick. It's literally a marketing gimmick to convince Americans to buy tap water in a plastic container for $3 per pop. How is that legal? It's crazy. It's marketing.
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's all marketing. There's nothing wrong about it. I think it's wrong. But hey, like whatever floats your boat, what I'm always saying. But that's the reason I'm saying on my socials what actually the water is. And not every water company is happy that I'm actually saying what they are. When I'm saying, sorry, but smart water is nothing else than highly processed, boiled up tap water. That's what that is.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It tastes like porta potty. I'm sorry. that water that is and it barely has any electrolytes dissolved barely anything you can taste the difference in every water that you drink like there's it's it's amazing and i can't wait to get into that and i'll explain this why is because we came from the wine angle and you all know that for example a samovina from new zealand tastes totally different than a samovna from napa valley how is that possible when it's the same grape but it's it tastes differently so it has something to with Terra. It's a French term
Starting point is 00:25:05 what we're using in the wine industry for showcasing where the soil, the mother nature is, so that wine pulls minerality from Mother Nature. So they have different stone layers in the Loire Valley, for example, in
Starting point is 00:25:21 Chabilly, versus here in California. We all know this. Different stone layers, different minerality. So the grapes are growing on these different mineralities, therefore the wine tastes differently. By water, because I said, 97% of the water is in the ocean. Clouds are created.
Starting point is 00:25:37 They're coming over, let's say, to Nashville right now. Rain is coming down, very badly today, actually. What is nice to see, but everybody else didn't thought, because it took me an hour to get over here, and everybody was freaking out on the freeway because it was raining. It was kind of funny. Comes down, and the minute this water,
Starting point is 00:25:53 this is almost now distilled water by Mother Nature, not 100% because there's still minerals in it, but almost distilled water. Now water's a universal solvent. There is no other liquid on this planet who has more dissolving power than water. Think about this. Fascinating. This show is sponsored by Liquid Ivy.
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Starting point is 00:30:06 Different sources, different spring sources. It can measure us by TDS. You did it. Yes. Let's explain what TDS is really quick for everybody. So TDS stands for total dissolved solids. And you were actually right because you said once to me, but Martin, it's not just about healthy minerals.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It could be other thing. And you're absolutely right. TDS doesn't stand for total dissolved healthy minerals, but it doesn't stand for total to solve poison either. Right. So the tricky part about TDS is in this country, and this is where the confusion starts again. What I even understand why everybody's so confused,
Starting point is 00:30:40 because there's two big agencies who's controlling the water industry in America, the EPA versus the FDA. So the EPA controls tap water in America. And they're actually saying, you should not consume water higher than 500 TDS. Why they're saying this? Because the Department of Water and Power, let's imagine,
Starting point is 00:31:01 they're pushing out 200 TDS here in Nashville. I don't know the number 100% correctly. I didn't look it up. I just, as an example, I'm using this right now. Let's say they're pushing 200 TDS into the pipes. Here at your beautiful house, we're ending up with 600. Something happened, obviously, between the Department of Water and Power in your house.
Starting point is 00:31:19 That means cross-contamination. that could be maybe let now or stuff we don't want to have in our water the TDS meter will not tell you what it actually is it will just tell you that there is something in it in water. A TDS meter is actually nothing else when you look at it there's two little diets in the bottom
Starting point is 00:31:36 and it looks how fast electricity goes from one point to another and the more electrolytes are dissolved in the water or substances with metals the faster will grow this idea from one till two and therefore the TDS meter will just tell you the kind of like the connectivity of a water. That's all what that is. And the number of what even my TDS meter shows you and yours,
Starting point is 00:31:59 they're not even close what actually is. That's the issue. What is kind of sad, there isn't a really good water tasting kits what you can use at home. That was my next question. It just doesn't exist. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It doesn't exist. It's too complex. The topic water, we all think it's so simple, it's not. So now I feel bad because I'm at home testing these waters thinking like these strips are legit and is that just another scam? I just looked at the strips as well
Starting point is 00:32:24 on Amazon because you said you ordered them on Amazon I looked it up like I googled a little bit I made some research as well because I'm always saying as a content creator you do research first and then you're going out versus a influencer is a person who actually kind of like as an actor for a commercial he doesn't know what they're talking
Starting point is 00:32:40 about and they just oh make an announcement for this and this brand and you're just doing it but actually have no clue what that is. Whereas a content creator tries to understand first the topic and then talks about it. So the TDS meter, the problem is with the stripes as well. They're acreage between 29 and 65%. That means nothing. 29% accuracy. That's nothing. It's all about just making money. And I think like, again, like a TDS meter is kind of fun to use it sometimes in your water, to get like an idea what maybe
Starting point is 00:33:12 the TDS is. But again, it doesn't mean it's good or bad now. That's the one that I used right there. And mine looks exactly the same. It looks almost the same, except mine is not fancy what has green, yellow, and red. Amazon. No, and that is a problem with this thing now, because it says red and in your, and here it says as well, 500 TDS, so bad. That's for EPA tap water. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:36 There has nothing to do of the water safe or not. So when I did that test and the Kroger water came out to be the best water as compared to Mountain Valley water, that was completely inaccurate. It was not inaccurate. It has super low because it's nothing else in purified tap it's filtered a tap. So there's no minerals. There's no minerals. Therefore the TDS will be two or three or four. And we can do the test. With the Kroga water
Starting point is 00:34:00 we're putting this in with a TDT's of two. Then I will literally just sea salt and that thing will go in red. Wow. That doesn't mean the water is now unsafe to drink. No, it's just water with electrolytes. We create an energy drink. How do you know if you're drinking minerals or if you're drinking cross-contamination though? Here we go. And that's the reason why there's an FDA and an EPA, because this is EPA stuff. I kind of have some beef with the FDA, though. I feel like they are not for the people.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I'm very, I'm actually, yeah, but not everything is bad what I'm always saying. We always need to look like what makes sense, what doesn't make sense. And that's the reason I'm always saying as well, especially right now in these times where we are with a with a rise of AI and you have no clue what is fake and what is not fake anymore. please do your research. Think about it, what makes sense, what doesn't make sense for yourself first and then think maybe they are unto something or maybe this is just lying. So with the FDA, for example,
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm very upset with them because this stupid nutrition label on bottled water doesn't make sense at all. Like there is no fat, there's no sugar in water, like why you even have a nutrition label on the water. So what we're doing in Europe, we have a similar agency.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Obviously it's called not FTA, but it's called differently over there. But they are requiring that every bottled water has to put the TDS on the water, on the bottle, and the five key minerals that the consumer can see, oh, TDS of 20, TDS of 500, and understands immediately what's going on. But here, it's so confusing because the EPA tells me, don't drink anything 500 or up, and the FTA doesn't say anything about TDS.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Why they're not saying anything about it? And this is now the very important thing, because I've been to many, many spring sources in my life now. And I talk to many, many water producers, and they're all running literary tests every day. They want to make sure their product is 100% safe. Imagine. A lot of the comments as well under your video was, let's you imagine these companies would go crazy. They would get sued every day when they actually would give you unsafe water. So what's happening with bottled water, let's imagine, crazy number, 2,000 TDS. They're getting the water. They're looking at the water quality, report and they're saying, we have 2,000 TDS. Why? So they're running a full
Starting point is 00:36:17 quality report in a lab, obviously. Again, you cannot do it at home. Most of the water can actually have their own labs. You see them right next to the springs of their own building. There's a full lab integrated because they're doing this all the time. They want to make sure everything is safe. So they're running the quarter of water quality report and now they're saying suddenly, oh, look at this, 500 milligrams of magnesium, 100 million of sodium, 250 milligrams of potassium, you're sure my water is super high. Then they're running again, the report for arsenic or for other stuff,
Starting point is 00:36:49 let what you obviously don't want to have in your water, but there are regulations by the FDA, how much arsenic, for example, can be in a water. And no, it's not that they're adding arsenic to it to make your poison or something. It's not like what I'm always saying. It's not like a company who tries to make, let's say, as an example, again, guys, I'm not against the milk industry, so don't take me my words. But as an example, milk back in the days in Germany had maybe an expiration of two days, now suddenly two weeks.
Starting point is 00:37:18 What happened? So something, they're adding something in there, in my opinion, to make it the shelf life longer. The same with bread, the same with other things. And these chemicals, what they're adding in, might be having a problem at one point. By bottled water, for example, with the arsenic topic, what was your topic as well? Yes, which let's touch base on that really quick before you get into it, is there, The whole reason why we're here is because there was a company who supposedly tests water to that had a reel on Instagram and it said, you know, had people tagging me in it and they,
Starting point is 00:37:51 should we bring up the instant? Should we bring up the reel or no? Can you can you play it for us? Did you ever get to see it? No, I never saw what triggered you. I just know that you saw something. Okay, I'm going to do it for yourself. That would be great because maybe maybe I know already why they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Well, what they had said was that Mountain Valley Springwater has been hiding their stats and like they're testing for the past two years since I think it was Primo bought them out and that they have high arsenic in the water and like over what the FDA allows. And so I was like, I don't believe this. I even left a comment. I was like, I still don't believe it because I know the facts that's not true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I was like, I don't know if I believe this or not. I'm going to test the water myself. And I get it. I totally get it where you're coming from.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah. And when you don't think about it, because for you, you're just like, I like the water. Now suddenly an influencer or somebody tells you on the internet it's not healthy. Maybe I want to check out. Yeah, and I'm far from a water small. Yeah. I don't know. I listen, I just drink it and pour it all over myself.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I totally get the confusion there. Right. I totally get it. Yeah. Let me let you see this video. It's on Instagram. Just type in arsenic in Mountain Valley Water. and it'll pop up, or here it, maybe I can send it to you.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Can we two seconds. Because I would really like for you to comment on what they had to say. Because I think that this is where a lot of the rumors are coming from. I have a feeling I know which video that is. It's the guy who has this app, the water app. I'm not positive. Let me see really quick. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Here you. Yeah. It's the guy. Right here. Him? Yeah, it's the guy. But let's watch it and I will debunk it. Valley Water hasn't been tested since 2023 and the company's been hiding their lab reports since
Starting point is 00:39:39 then. That is, until we tested their five-gallon glass bottle option last month. Here's what we found inside. There were a total 10 contaminants along with eight beneficial minerals detected. However, the most alarming part was arsenic at 40 times the recommended health guidelines, which could be carcinogenic, neurotoxic, and cause reproductive issues. However, it was detected below legal limits. There is also two times a health guideline of total trihalomethanes, along with the maximum recommended amount of nitrates. The other seven contaminants, including fluoride, barium, and uranium were below health guidelines. The highest mineral detected was calcium at 58.2 milligrams per liter,
Starting point is 00:40:13 along with a few others, which were similar to their 2023 report, which likely suggests that they are using the same source in Arkansas. You can view the full report for yourself and other recommended waters on a... So, I've been tagged in many, many of his videos as well. And first of all, I think it's great when people trying to be more transparent. I think it's great. The idea what he has, I think it's actually great. The execution I have a problem with.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Because what he does is nothing else than fear mongering on the internet. It's sent me in panic. This is how he sells his subscriptions. Wow. So it's a subscription model on his app. You need to pay, I have no clue how much. And he does this on purpose to push these videos out again and again and again to spread fear. Isn't that considered misinformation?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Absolutely. So can he be sued for that? So what he said, I think what a company is actually have a very good reason to sue him. Good, heavily legal. was with him at one point. And for sure it will happen at one point. Look, I'm not in the water industry. It's not my problem. I'm not touching that. But I have a feeling this guy will have severe issues at one point from the water industry. There will be a pushback. You can't do that to people. So first of what he said, oh, they're hiding, they're hiding their water quality
Starting point is 00:41:22 port since 2003 since Prima bought them. They bought Mount Valley in 2020. First of all, that's online. You can easily research this. So his first thing, what you already said, they are hiding their a quality report, it's not true. There's a quality report on the homepage. Clearly, it is from 23. I actually called Mountain Valley up when I saw the video as well. I said, guys, can I have
Starting point is 00:41:46 a water quality report? They said me one. And the measurements are totally different than this one. Yeah. And let me interject right there before you go on. Mountain Valley actually reached out to my team and called them meeting with my team. And they were more than gracious, more than sweet, and were like, look,
Starting point is 00:42:04 you know, we don't have anything to hide, but what they did give us was an official statement that I'm going to read on here for you guys. Let me put my bifocal zone. Hold on one second. So this is an official statement from Mountain Valley Water. Bunny, I am so glad your team was willing to speak with us. As you can imagine, the safety and quality of our products are at the core of what we do. Our products are thoroughly tested in accordance with both federal and state law, and we meet all quality and safety standards, including those set by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the International Bottled Water Association, and the relevant agencies in states where our products are made and distributed. We maintain rigorous protocols grounded in science at every stage
Starting point is 00:42:48 of the bottling process so that our purified and spring water brands meet our own high standards, as well as federal, state, and local health, and safety requirements. As a proud member of the International Bottled Water Association, IBWA, we also comply with additional quality standards that exceed FDA requirements. As you know, what makes the Mountain Valley, as you know, what makes Mountain Valley the brand as it is known is that it has been bottled right at the source in the, I don't know how to say this, the Owashita Mountains. I don't want to, okay. Mountains since 1871. Interesting things to note in any natural source, there are naturally occurring minerals that appear in the soil and groundwater that at
Starting point is 00:43:36 federally regulated levels are safe to consume. We regularly and rigorously test our spring water so that it meets all FDA and IBWA requirements and pride ourselves on exceeding those standards to provide healthy and safe water to all consumers. We continue to prioritize consumer safety and trust delivering products that meet all standards of quality and compliance. As we spoke with your team about a TDS meter is not designed to and does not measure contaminants. Its purpose is to measure all organic and inorganic substances such as minerals, salts, etc. in a liquid and will not determine whether or not a water sample is safe or healthy to drink. TDS or total dissolved solids can vary in water sources, leading to lower or higher TDS readings, reflecting the water's natural
Starting point is 00:44:25 mineral richness and flavor profile. Fun fact, similar to the difference in taste. between a full-bodied cabaret and a light Pino Noir, which is exactly what you said. So thank you Mountain Valley Springwater. I think so, too. It's nice to see that. That the company is reacting. Yeah, and we appreciate you. And we appreciate the transparency because, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:44 I did not mean to fear Munger or send people into a panic, but just by human nature, we all started freaking out. I totally get it. I totally get it. And this is like what I think is great because Mountain Valley actually has their water quality report clearly posted on the home page. Trust me, other water companies,
Starting point is 00:44:59 trying to hide them. They're actually hiding them. Yeah. Like who? Who hides their stuff? Dazani, for example. I even called them. I don't like to sign. Can I have the water quality report? No, this is trade secret. Are you kidding me? Your water quality report is your trade secret? Come on. What about Fiji? How's Fiji land? Fiji's very good. Very transparent. Really? Love that. Very transparent. Great water for red wines. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Fiji has a lot of silica dissolved and natural-cuing mineral, especially in the Pacific Rim area, especially in Fiji water. They're not so many brands who have such a high silica content like Fiji. And by tannin rich red wines who are like very bitter in the aftertaste,
Starting point is 00:45:38 the silica makes the wine super smooth. Unbelievable. You should try that out. Like a heavy carbony and then Fiji right next to it, you will say like, you will be like,
Starting point is 00:45:48 what the hell? It's so crazy. To my red wine. It's so crazy that you can manipulate your palate like that to just see the difference and stuff. Can we talk about,
Starting point is 00:45:57 okay, I don't know if I'm going to, how to pronounce this, but Deuterium Depleted Water? Have you heard? Yeah. It's for me all, there's so many different waters out there these days. Right. And they all have different, what people are saying, health effects, look, I'm not a doctor. And I know I'm not going into the whole health scene.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I know basic stuff, what I think is important. And I see what is a little bit more gimmicky and not gimmicky. And for me, this deuterium depleted water, the hydrogen water. water, what is a huge thing right now as well. My husband literally walks around because Joe Rogan talks about... It's not bad to drink it. Don't get me wrong. It will not harm him. I don't think it will actually give you the benefits. There's a placebo to it. The thing is with hydrogen water, for example, they have no clue how many, how much hydrogen
Starting point is 00:46:49 actually needs to be added to the water and how long the water is actually stable to have the hydrogen and gas. It will disappear immediately. that maybe it has an impact on your health maybe they're even saying in the studies and they're saying there's so many studies been done yeah they're all saying the same at the end we actually don't know we need more research
Starting point is 00:47:08 it was the same with alkaline water for several years ago that everybody freaked out about the high alkaline pH what is clearly now it was a marketing gimmick because it doesn't matter what you drink or eat it will go acidic in your body needs to be
Starting point is 00:47:23 it's like distilled water almost isn't it alkaline water No, alkaline water can actually from nature be alkaline based on the different middle compositions or you can recreate alkaline water by pushing it through an ionizing machine. That means you're splitting off the water molecules and there's acidic and alkaline ions in water and you're separating the acidic ions and you're just collecting the positive charge alkaline ions together and then you're selling this ionized water. There's, for example, what was under your comments
Starting point is 00:47:56 and that was where I'm really getting then upset because under your comment suddenly started the multi-level marketing people commenting, they're trying to trick you into a multi-level marketing. So some people comment, oh, this is all crap, every bottled water is bad. My medical water is the best water you can buy. And they're not even allowed to say medical water,
Starting point is 00:48:18 getting in serious trouble for this by their mother company. They're just doing it because it's multi-level marketing and nobody's accountable. or it's a problem with multilevels. I feel like that's the problem not to cut you off, but I feel like that's the problem is why are these companies and people not being held accountable
Starting point is 00:48:32 for what they're feeding to the masses? Sometimes I'm like, I'm the only guy maybe online who's actually debunking all the time these people. I feel like if somebody actually stepped in and said, hey, you can't say this. Hey, America, you need to put the TDS and the minerals and stuff like that on the bottles.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And some doing it. For example, Fiji, turn around the Fiji bottle. They're saying it. TDS and the key minerals. Look how transparent they are. Look, as a big company, I love this. This is the way it should be. This is the way it should be.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And I'm always saying this to so many water companies when they ask me for my help. You think the first basic for everything what you're doing, put your water quality report on your homepage and put your key minerals and the tedious on your bottle. Be transparent. This is the only thing what the consumer actually cares for. They want to be transparent.
Starting point is 00:49:22 The problem, obviously, with the school system, We talked a little bit offline over really about this, that not so much has been taught about water. So people came up with this idea of pure, pure, pure, pure, purified water. That's a marketing gimmick, again, created by big corporations who just want to sell you tons of tap water, because they have a great money-making machine there, huh? Is all purified water tap water?
Starting point is 00:49:44 All purified water is tap water. So when you see purified on the bottle, and I'm not even fully against purified. For example, when you have like a pure life water, for example at Costco for like I don't know the price point but it's super cheap I get it the soccer mom says I just need bottled water for my kids when they're going to sport I get it I get it I get it for a cheap price I totally get it but when you're a company who suddenly bases of premium purified water and charges three dollars for the bottle and and creates all
Starting point is 00:50:14 this marketing hype about alkaline and restructured water and all this nonsense what I see all the time I have a problem with that but that's misleading that's all misleading There's a company by Arrow One. I don't know if you know Arrow One. It's like this super fancy retail or like a grocery store in Los Angeles. Super overpriced. I've been there. And there's one water.
Starting point is 00:50:33 They're literally like saying everything. They're seeing hypoxinated. We are not a fish. I cannot gain oxygen from water. Sorry. Like I'm like, what is that? How is that working? So hyperoxinated, restructured water, alkaline water and nanopurified that can go, that you, the term
Starting point is 00:50:51 what they're always using, it will. hide with you on the cellular level. Sounds crazy and fancy. Yeah, every water will do that because it needs to go to myself to get nutrition to myself and close ways out of myself. Every water will go on the cellular level. Please don't
Starting point is 00:51:07 use these marketing terms. So they have all this BS on their front label and on the back label they're saying everything what we said on the front label is not FDA approved so please don't see us pretty much. It's all marketing. That's the reason why I told you this whole business
Starting point is 00:51:23 is a mess. It's a huge mess and the consumer is super confused because sure I would be confused when I had no clue about water and I see a TDS media on TikTok everybody uses it suddenly 500 years poisoning and then you have suddenly
Starting point is 00:51:39 and then you forget nah but then I get it I totally get it and then the FDA tells you no it's totally fine it's like what do we believe with the FDA now suddenly you would sink but that there's two different parts of shoes because it has something to do with cross-contamination
Starting point is 00:51:53 versus the bottle is closed at the spring source. Now they know the T-D is of 2000. Nothing can happen to this bottle anymore when it's in glass. Plastic is a different game plan sometimes. But glass, best container ever. Okay, so can we talk about microplastics? Because now they're saying that you can, that there's microplastics and glass bottles also.
Starting point is 00:52:14 So let's be honest. Microplastic is everywhere. Everywhere. Every food you're eating in every bottle of water pretty much. everywhere is microplastic. Most of the microplastic, people don't know this, comes from your car tires.
Starting point is 00:52:27 That's the main source of microplastic. Wow. The run-offs of your tires. That is a huge problem, what we're facing. And then obviously many, many other parts because we're using just too much plastic. So to suddenly say,
Starting point is 00:52:40 oh, what are we going to do now? We need to filter. We need to do this. No, we need to get rid of plastic guys. We need to find a new idea to, we need to attack the problem where it occurs. we don't need to just a solution.
Starting point is 00:52:54 No, we need the solution needs to be attacking where it starts a problem. That's the solution here, guys. It's the same when my doctor tells me, Martin, you have a high cholesterol. We need to attack it now before you're getting a heart attack. We don't want a heart attack. My father just had one for five days ago, but he's safe. Everything is great. He's happy.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Everything is good. I talked to him. He saved. My mother saved his life, I think, because she realized something is off with my father. They're both in the mid-80s. So it's great. Well, I'm happy dad's good though. I'm so happy that my father is happy because literally on that day where you posted this
Starting point is 00:53:26 and I got all this thing, my sister called and I was a mess mentally, obviously. And then I had to deal with all this stuff. Oh my God. Martin, I'm sorry. Son of a bitch. That day was fun. I'm so sorry. No, no, but I'm here.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Everything is good. My father's healthy. He's already at home again and he looks great because he gets actually suddenly oxygen through his bladder anymore before he didn't have so much because it was 90. percent off-cutted already by his heart, man, I'm so lucky. But then you're realizing suddenly we're all mortal. Yeah. I never, sure you know it's happening. But this was really like this first like warning signal for me for several days ago. He's like, oh my God, it can happen every day. This call that you're sitting in the plane and then flying back to Germany because you need to
Starting point is 00:54:12 bury your loved ones. Oh, terrible. I can't even, I don't even want to talk about it. Dad's going to rock it out for a long time. Oh, he won't be great. My mother. my grandmother was 99 when she passed. Oh, so he's, he's 86, so he has way more, he has at least 30 more years. Yes, he drinks good water. He knows me. Good. So is there microplastics in glass bottles? So it can happen as well, yes, absolutely. And I did a video about this and it looks like maybe it comes from the source, maybe it comes actually from the cap, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I've heard that, yes, I've heard the cap. And I was really thinking like, because I saw the study saying, how is that possible from the cap? That's what I was going to say. If it comes from the cap, is it enough to even like really affect somebody? Yeah, it seems like. But then I looked and then I thought like, but how, it's, it seems like it's just about when they're painting something on the cap. It's not just the metal cap. It's more like they paint on the cap. Gotcha. And this is the paint has microplastic. And then I thought, but how is this ending up now into the water when the outside is thing? But again, I've been to several water companies and sometimes the caps are actually mixed in one big bucket and they are flirting around there. And
Starting point is 00:55:19 and then a machine is picking them up and puts them in little tubes so they've been moved around the whole time and I think that is a problem doing bottling that then microplastic maybe can be introduced and this is like again where our water companies have to learn as well
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Starting point is 00:58:35 So hopefully a lot of water companies will switch their caps to a non-painting anymore because I don't need to have the name of the water on top of it. Right. I don't care. Yeah, I don't either. Let's walk. Micropressing is better for me. It's like Snapple, you know, like there was like a little thing underneath
Starting point is 00:58:48 whenever you over it up. do that anymore because obviously it's not good or maybe another version maybe you need to wash your caps before it goes actually on the bottle something like that but that's the reason we're all learning we're all learning together even the big companies are learning as well
Starting point is 00:59:03 guys so don't be always upset immediately with a company so for example Mountain Valley Springs even when there because I saw the newest water quality report yes there is arsenic in that water in so low amounts you barely can measure it is ND non-detectable to one
Starting point is 00:59:19 parts per billion, parts per billion. And again, our setting is a natural green element what you can find in many, many foods and in many, many waters. For example, brown rice. I looked it up. 154 parts per billion. Versus one, what is the mountain valley.
Starting point is 00:59:41 So the idea that mountain valley is poisoning, obviously, is completely nonsense. Even when there is maybe what he does, he's fear-pawning. He is fearmongering to sell his app. That's what he does. What is sad. I feel sad for him, actually.
Starting point is 00:59:55 So the only water that doesn't have arsenic in it would be the purified water or would even that have arsenic in it too? Because all these waters come from different spring source and sometimes maybe that element of arsenic is not in that grounds. So some waters will have zero. But again, when I drink alcohol, let's be honest, I will have a nice beer tonight. I'm very excited for that. You're German. You're supposed to drink beer. I have videos on this where people say,
Starting point is 01:00:23 what's your flavored water take, Martin, saying, yeah, and then I will grab a beer. What's your favorite and a beer? I love Hefe Weizzen, so wheat beers. Oh, I love Heffin-Wisen with orange slices in it. I'm a big fan of that. So good, me too. So I like these beers, but we all know, let's be honest,
Starting point is 01:00:39 that that is actually poisoning. Alcohol, that is really bad for you. It doesn't matter, in which amount, it's just bad. Oh, and beer, a beer has gluten in it. Yeah, let's be honest. So the minimalistic idea, and I looked at it like what actually this once parts per billion means. That means when you put one drop of arsenic into an Olympic swimming pool, that's what that water has in a scenic. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Okay. Think about this. Gotcha. So, and lucky me, we all know maybe, we all saw the movie War of the Worlds. So there's this movie out from the 50s. here already the book and everything, incredible good movie. So how did the aliens didn't survive on our planet? Because they've been exposed to our nature in the end. That's how we actually fought them. It's not that we fought them with guns. We tried it, but we didn't
Starting point is 01:01:30 worked out. No, they killed themselves by bacteria, what we have, microbecteer in our air. So it's the same with arsenic. My body can actually handle several poisonings because I have a liver. Maybe you don't have it, but I have it. I just can talk for myself right now. No, but I'm not a doctor. I think my liver's beaten and tattered, but it's still working. But I have a liver and my liver can actually get rid of arsenic through my urine. So it is when people are saying immediately on the internet, oh, there's poison in it. Yeah, sure, everything is poisoning.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Even an orange, a beautiful, amazing orange, it's super healthy. We all know this. Imagine you would just eat oranges, nothing else anymore. You will have a problem at one point. On this example, because I did a video about it was so hilarious to me. fits perfectly in this team. There was a guy once on Twitter who said, bottled water is radioactive. You should not drink bottled water. So I looked at this claim. And there was one brand what he said, what like 1,400 Beckerwall, I think is the measurement
Starting point is 01:02:32 how you measure the, how you measure the, um, the, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it sounds crazy. One thousand hundred. This is radioactive. Oh my God. Like, you think. Like, um, um, um, um, um, um, like, you think it's bad. Then I looked, oh, a banana has 15,000 of that. And then I looked, how many bananas do I have to eat to actually have an impact on my body about radioactivity? 50 million bananas. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's fearmongering guys. So it's like anybody could say anything. Correct. Correct. So he's right. Yes. There is maybe arsenic in some waters. That does not mean it's unhealthy or unsafe to consume. That's a problem what I have with him. He's fear-mongering
Starting point is 01:03:19 to trick you, in my opinion, into a subscription model. And that's not cool. I don't like it. At all. Because I'm in the middle of creating an app as well, but my app will be totally different. It will tell you everything about the water, about the sustainability effect of what this company is doing. And it will be free for everybody. It's very important to me because I don't believe that knowledge should be paid for. Right. I want to make this app. for free for everybody, let the water companies pay my bills, that they can maybe promote a little bit on my app later
Starting point is 01:03:49 on something, so I'm trying to do it in this way. But I want that the consumer have it for free, and I will talk about sustainability, about the water quality report. I'm not going to fear porn. Because for what? It's totally fine. It's FDA approved. I know I'm not the biggest one of FDA, but
Starting point is 01:04:04 we have to trust sometimes our agencies. Right. And especially for bottled water because I've been in this industry since over 20 years now and really making research all the time, they're pretty good in that. Like, they're safe. We don't have to worry about that. So what, if you could name off the top of your head, your five favorite waters and five least favorite waters? Doesn't exist. I will tell you. So first of all, the app will be called sourced, that everybody knows it as well. And we are in batter right now. You cannot still
Starting point is 01:04:33 download it, but you can go to sourced minus water.com and you can be on the waiting list. Yes. And then we will send you out. Sign us up, memes. And we will send you up when it's ready and it's going to be really fun and cool. And the cool thing is you can actually use the app with your cell phone. You can scan the bottle, the barcode, and then the bottle will show up. So you have your personal water,
Starting point is 01:04:51 Somagie Martin, with you all the time in the store. I love that. That's the idea. Cool. So there is no best for me, and I can tell you why. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Because I'm getting thirsty. I want to try some waters as well with you. I brought some. Because with wine, when you said, so what is your favorite wine? I would say, like when I have,
Starting point is 01:05:10 like when I have, sushi I maybe want a savi en blanc but for my steak or for my barbecue tonight I wouldn't drink a savi en blois I would drink maybe a red wine so there is good water for your lifestyle depends what you want to do so for example Saratoga what is a great brand here from the east coast as a TD as a 40 so it's light in minerality which by the way that's what I've been drinking guys here we go so that's a great water for example that's a great water for example that's a great water, for example, for sushi or for light appetizers.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I feel like it's a thicker water. I like the consistency, yeah. Yeah. That's a good volume on that water. Some of my friends have said that they feel like they don't get exactly like quenched when they drink this. Why is it like that with some water? I think because it's low in minerality.
Starting point is 01:06:00 So they're maybe thinking, and this is obviously a fact, the more salts you're adding, the more flavor has a water. The stronger will be the flavor. And I think one of your friends maybe say, I like the more like maybe sparkling or more like intense waters where the mineralities are a little bit higher. So I talk about low mineral water.
Starting point is 01:06:16 There's nothing wrong about low mineral waters. It's just a fact from the spring source that this water has very small minerals dissolved and in small amounts versus Mountain Valley is 220 TDS or the Sukkosan is over a thousand TDS. I've missed you. It's a great water.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I have it at home. I love Mountain Valley water. It's very good. I've been drinking it for you. years. And it was so funny when they said about Primo Waters and they freaked out about Primo and they're hiding and all this crazy stuff what people suddenly said
Starting point is 01:06:47 and I said, you guys know that Saratoga and Mountain Valley are both owned by Primo. It comes from the same house. Yes. It's not the same source, obviously. It's totally different sources. We learned that. I didn't know that. It's the same company. It's Primo Waters. They're all independent operating pretty much for Pino's the
Starting point is 01:07:03 umbrella company. They own Arrowhead, their own Poland Spring. They owned Osaka from Texas. They're like a water monopoly. I don't want to say monopoly because there's so many other brands out there, but they are pretty big in the water industry. And they actually invited me to several of their spring stores because they want to be transparent.
Starting point is 01:07:23 How beautiful is that? I love that. And they showed me forks now. I've been at Saratoga Springs. And I've been at the White Cedar Spring Source where there's still water and glass comes from in Maine Up. They invited me there. They showed me everything.
Starting point is 01:07:36 They showed me the beautiful wetlands, what they have. They showed me that they have the water stewards right there to measure everything that the wetlands are in perfect intact. It's so nice to see that big companies actually care. Yes. And I would love to see it in more companies. It's refreshing. That feeling.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And they are actually good people. They have people behind it who don't want to screw people. They're saying, no, we want to actually take care of nature. Yeah. Yeah, sure. It's a problematic case because some people say they're stealing water. No, they're not stealing. First of all, they have a business model with the state or with the county or whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:09 whatever, it's like that they're stealing water somewhere. And when there's a problem, it needs to be addressed. And they're addressing it. And I will call it out as well. When people would suddenly fuck around, pardon my English, I will call it out. Fuck around and find out. No, but like no company for me has like a free jail card. It doesn't exist for me. I always question everything. I'm very always thinking about it, what they're doing, what they're not doing. But that they reached out to me and said, Martin, we really want to showcase what we're doing, was a good sign. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:40 What are some waters that you would not recommend that people would drink? It really depends what you want to do. So when you say, when your doctor told you, again, I'm not a doctor
Starting point is 01:08:49 and it drives me nuts as well that on TikTok's like me everybody's a doctor and tells you what you drink and what you should not drink. When a doctor tells you maybe you need more salts in your blood, so more electrolytes,
Starting point is 01:09:01 you can go for spring waters or mineral waters. Mineral water means comes from a spring and has to have at least 250 TDS. That's mandatory. That's a threshold of mineral waters. They have to have 250 TDS.
Starting point is 01:09:13 And these are great sources for natural occurring electrolytes because they don't have been artificially added. So I have a problem with the companies who are saying we're adding electrolytes, people running to these waters thinking they're getting now great, amazing amounts of electrolytes and they're getting barely anything. Because the smart water's TDS, I think, is around 28.
Starting point is 01:09:32 It's nothing. Yeah. It's barely anything in there. Right. And people buying it for the electrolyte level. Right. thinking that it's nourishing them in some way. And it's not unhealthy.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Don't get me wrong, huh? It's not unhealthy to drink these waters. But for example, when I would go to the gym and I'm sweating a lot because I'm exercising, I would not drink that water. Right. You want something to replenish you. I want something to replenish all my electrolytes. I'm just losing and I will go then to a water where it's more electrolytes dissolved.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yeah. But I wouldn't bash a water. It's bad or it's you will die when you drink that water. Again, these multilevelacan people, it's Kengan. I will say it as well because they're trying to hide the name and then by DMs they're trying to tell you into this Kangan scheme then. I actually fell for that and I bought one of those machines
Starting point is 01:10:18 and I just didn't I didn't love the way the water tasted. It didn't taste. It's $5,000, huh? Yeah, I know. Sell it on eBay. Yes, I know. It did, but it didn't take, and this is not me bashing them,
Starting point is 01:10:30 but to me it didn't taste right. There was something off about it. I didn't love it. Yeah, it's processed tap water. Let's be honest, huh? And then they're saying like, no, and you can create all these different PHAs. First of all, we all learned already. I think that P.H is a marketing gimmick.
Starting point is 01:10:44 So that's over already the game plan. The problem of this Kenan people doing, and this drives me so nuts about accountability. Because again, Mountain Valley got in hot water, pon and heated right now, let's say it like this. They reached out to you and said, let's talk about the fact. Kengen does it exactly the other way around. Wow. They're doing it all on the back alley. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Oh, it's like, you're our, because I'm sending sometimes in emails and saying, like, guys, you're telling me you're not allowed to say any health claims, but I see all your reps on TikTok all the time saying, when you drink this water, you have better blood flow, you can breathe better, no, I saw a claim no cancer will come to you. How insane that is to even say that. Yeah, I to say that. My mother's a cancer survivor. I'm very thankful that she had doctors surrounding her and supported her when she had breast cancer. and she survived it for 25 years ago and she listened to a doctor and on a water company
Starting point is 01:11:38 like this is and this is then for me where it gets personal so they are actually hiring people that means they're creating death let's be honest and then these people are going on the TikToks and on Instagram and saying when you drink liquid death you're gonna die
Starting point is 01:11:53 this is what they're saying and you're like what? Yeah because it's sparkling and sparking is acidic water and therefore it's bad for you cancer can drive in your body and then you're going to die is saying are you guys nuts because they don't understand basic chemical structures so for example when they're saying
Starting point is 01:12:13 or cancer cannot drive in an alkaline environment they're actually right with that claim guess what else cannot survive in a fully alkaline environment your body because you're going to be dead because your body is different pHs not just one and that is a problem how they're like trying to under the radar mingling around and trying to scare people
Starting point is 01:12:33 to tell and making crazy claims about water brands what is absolutely not true to try to into this multi-level marketing scheme and that is so sad. I'm getting very upset about it. I don't want to be upset, but I'm getting really upset. It is infuriating them. I hate people who are getting scammed.
Starting point is 01:12:50 It drives me nuts. I don't want that Americans getting scammed. I was one of them. And I don't want it and I fight my best for it. Well, we need more Martins in this world. I'm telling you because you have blown my mind today with some of the facts that I had no idea about do you want to start trying some of these waters because and I think we should we talked about Saratoga mountain valley and I think like
Starting point is 01:13:13 let's actually taste Saratoga and then I brought a water what is so different. They are two still waters. Saratoga let's start with this and then let's go to three bays from Australia what is really funny. Okay perfect. I'm excited. Just like a little bit. We just need a little glass and no I'm ready. Easy easy peasy while we're waiting to pour these I'm going to ask you a question because my friend Jay Dog from Hollywood Undead actually is like really you know obsessed with waters and stuff too and he wanted
Starting point is 01:13:41 me to ask you a couple questions so hold on let me pull them up I'll pour a little bit I just need a little bit for myself we're tasting water and not drinking it oh there's a difference yeah by the way I have them on room temperature the waters on purpose because when you drink
Starting point is 01:13:58 room temperature water you can actually taste everything out of the water when you're putting an ice cube or you chilling them super down, you barely can taste anything anymore because you're actually numbing up your taste abilities. That's insane. Try to get rid of ice cubes, guys. Like ice cubes is actually the poison for beverages. Wow. And plus you don't know what water. You don't know what water they were using for the ice either. By the way, I don't want to bash Nashville, but oh my God, guys. I had to go to the restaurant right after I came out of the plane. I pressed the water and the toilet and this whole wave of chlorine came into my nose. Oh no. And I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 01:14:39 that is intense. And then I thought, oh, maybe they have a chlorine problem here. So I went over then to the, to wash my hands, obviously. And this is the first thing I'm always doing. So I'm taking both hands and then I'm putting water up to my nose. Oh my God. It was. Chlorine. It was so bad. Scary. We have a water softener. You have to. When I saw this over there, you have to have a water softener in the system. Yes. And it's crazy because my husband the first night he used it. He's like, and I didn't tell him we got it. He's like, baby, my skin feels so slimy. And I'm like, we have a water softener now. And he's like, oh my gosh. A lot of people don't know this. It's very important, not just what you're drinking, even what you're showering with.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yes. A shower filter is mandatory, in my opinion, in this country. They're not expensive, guys. You can buy an ad on shower filter for like 60, 70 bucks. I have, for example, a verse osmos system at my place from Delta Foset because they're pretty cool because by R.O, the problem is you're filtering everything out and then you don't have the minerals anymore. So a Delta Foset, RO system, they have a cartridge, you're
Starting point is 01:15:39 plugging us into your system and they're re-mineralizing the water. With our TDES of around 90 to 100. I love this. And by the way, they reached out for several years ago as well when they were in the Voluntage and said, Martin, can we do a water tasting with you? So they wanted to learn as well
Starting point is 01:15:55 as a company. And I love these companies. Then they're saying, like, we want to learn. I think it's beautiful. Transparency is beautiful. And that's great. So I'm a big fan of them. Okay. So Saratoga. Let's taste it. Saratoga. I don't like drinking out of glasses. I like to drink straight from the bottle.
Starting point is 01:16:11 You're a bottle girl? I like it. I'm a bottle girl. But it's a smooth water. It's not, it's not heavy. It's not salty or something because it doesn't have so many minerals. It's almost thick, right? Yeah, but think about the next one. When you think this is thick, oh, my God. So this is the water. I've been on the Sack-Effron show,
Starting point is 01:16:29 Dow to Earth with Sack-Effron. Okay. And Anna Kendrick was sitting right next to me, and we had this tasting. We had this water on the show. And she had this water, and she's like, what the hell is going on?
Starting point is 01:16:39 She could not believe, and it's your bottle. So when you want to drink it from here, that's yours. No, it's okay. I'll have her pour it. I'm not taking them back. I don't want to just be swigging on your bottles.
Starting point is 01:16:48 So this water has a very interesting story. So it's been founded by accident, by a retirement couple, in Australia, a little bit southern of Melbourne and it looks like this water is around 2,000 years old. That means the last time it was rain water because obviously every water is billions of years old.
Starting point is 01:17:06 But I mean like the last time it was rain water it was from 2,000 years ago. It passes for 2,000 years through stone layers and picks up so much mineralities. So the TDS here is 1,300. So your TDS meter would blow away actually when you put your TDS meter in that water.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I would have fainted. Well, I think evaporize. Yes. buy that water. Cheers. Cheers. This one is thick, but oh my gosh, it's good. You guys try it. It's crazy, huh?
Starting point is 01:17:36 That is thick. That is actually a very heavy water. That is thick. It has very interesting minerality after notes, what I really love. But that, so the aftertaste, what is that? It's the minerality now. Okay. It's loaded with 27 key minerals.
Starting point is 01:17:51 It's almost like sweet, though, right? Yeah, yeah. It's very creamy. Yeah. It's very creamy. You're absolutely right. Sweety, creamy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It's a very unique water. I don't know if I love it or not. I would have to definitely try another sip of that. Then let's, let's taste the water what everybody was talking about. Oh, the freaking Mountain Valley Water. This is my favorite. I have the sparkling here.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Let's go to the sparkling because I have another sparking water for you. That you have two carbonation levels. Okay, gotcha. So Mountain Valley is there still, oh, you have to be careful, not that we're getting wet here with Martin, with the water somewhere like you. So I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:18:26 European of me, huh? So I'm going to... I'm going to ask you this question from my boy, J. Doc. He said, what TDS gives you kidney stones? A lot of confusion on that. High TDS does, but at what rate? There is no what range
Starting point is 01:18:43 because we all humans are different. Some people can drink a high TDS water with 2,500 day in, day out and they will never have kidney stones. Others, they may get kidney stones by a TDs of 300. There is no... It's talk to your doctor, talk to your doctor, do your checkups all the time.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Every year you should do a checkup for yourself. And when there's a problem, you need to look why. Maybe it doesn't come even from food, from food might mean. Maybe it doesn't come from the water. Maybe it comes from your food, from your high diet, because there's tons of minerals dissolved too, what can build up to kidney stones. So it depends on you. I'm so sorry, I would love always the question.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Do you have an answer sometimes? But I'm a guy, when there is no real answer, I will say it as well. I'm not faking an answer. because a lot of influenza is doing that as well these days. They're thinking they need to know everything and then bullshitting around what is actually not true. So this is a very, very important question, I think, but you should check it out with your doctor, with your physician,
Starting point is 01:19:37 and see, is there a problem or not? Like my parents are drinking high metal content water since many years and they never had kidney stones. Others have it immediately. His second question was a lot of people assume if they get a salt softener, it's safe to drink the water after. but you're doing an ion exchange and trading one mineral for another.
Starting point is 01:19:56 So you're drinking a shit ton of sodium or magnesium and is that safe? Do you still need an RO filter? So water softeners bringing down minerality, but he's right. It will interchange with other minerals. And it really again depends obviously on you as your body, on your lifestyle, on your diet, even if the water is now totally fine or maybe you should think about an arrow system. When you're adding a normal system, you don't have to have have an hour now. It's double. When I started this podcast, it was just me and Mimi figuring it out as we went.
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Starting point is 01:22:14 my choice my personal choice and again because I'm using it does not mean everybody else needs to use it that's very important to me that's again the big difference between an influencer content creator. I can just say what I like and what I think would be for my lifestyle perfect. I chose RO because I liked it. This is the most safe way in my opinion. There's no really
Starting point is 01:22:34 downsides except your water will slightly go a little bit higher because there's waste water created as well by the ROO system because ours, nothing else than actually a very thin membrane where water needs to path through and then filters the bad stuff out. What we definitely don't want to have. P-Favs, microplastics,
Starting point is 01:22:51 forever chemicals, all this terrible stuff what we don't want to have in our waters. But the problem is it will fill it as well, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, the stuff what I want to have in my water. And again, my RO has the benefit of adding back minerality. But you can do it at home as well when you don't have a fancy RO system, what I have,
Starting point is 01:23:09 little sea salt. Yeah. Like a carav of water, little sea salt on top of it, and you're good to go. You created literally like a little electrolyte drink for yourself. Awesome. Okay. All right. Mountain Valley Springs sparking. Cheers. I don't think I've ever had Mountain Valley Springs sparkling. So this comes from a still water, obviously, still water source. I'm smelling it like it's wine.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Artificially to it. Okay. But I like the bubbles. The bubbles are very tiny. Jaime, you're the sparkling water drinker, right? They're not aggressive. So listen, he's a sparkling water fiend. This guy loves it.
Starting point is 01:23:44 It's a beautiful water with a very good, very good, um, soft. soft bubbles. She said it tastes like TV static. Here. This one's going to be fun. The next one you will freak out guys. Okay, we're going to share. So the next one comes from the country of Georgia.
Starting point is 01:24:05 So not the state Georgia. Okay. We're talking about the country of Georgia. I never knew there was a freaking country named Georgia. It's right next to Russia on the east, East Europe. Okay. And this water has more electrolys than a Gatorade. Wow.
Starting point is 01:24:18 The TDS is 5,000. Wow. It was like, it's very intense. This is going to make my hair stand up. Yes, this water is crazy. Crazy is this water. I love learning about water. Martin, you got to come back every year.
Starting point is 01:24:30 This is so fun. Absolutely, I'm happy. And when you in L.A. come over. I have a beautiful house. Yeah, we would love to. We have a nice, I have a nice backyard with a nice pool and a hot world pool where we can emerge ourselves in water and drink water. This smells like straight up. It has an irony to smell.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Yeah. Like a metallic smell. This smells like... It smells like monkey's blood. Yeah, you would think... Iodine? It smells like iodine. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Okay, give it a sip. Oh, Lord. Oh, my goodness. It's super salty. That's heavy. It's very intense the water. So how, okay, how... Somebody couldn't drink that every day.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Correct. And it brings me to a very good point. And you're absolutely right. That is not meant for hydration. anymore. Okay. This water is so intense, it has so much minerals, that actually definitely, in my opinion, that will definitely be a problem at one point for your body. Yes. When you just shove this down as your regular water. You know what it tastes like? Have you ever put Alka-Seltzer, like in a water? It has the same impact like an Alka-Seltzer. Yes. That is a medicine
Starting point is 01:25:39 water. Okay. So we have in Germany, and this is now where the FDA will hate me for it, to I'm saying this, and the farm industry will hate me for it. We have 60 water brands in Germany who falling under the medication law. Their state-approved medication, it's nothing else than bottled water. Wow. And here, the FDA forbids all the water companies who tell anything about health benefits
Starting point is 01:26:02 besides water. What is crazy? Because there are waters out there, even here in America, who have a benefit besides hydration. For example, at Trader Joe's, a German brands called Geraldsteiner. 2,500 TDS, loaded with calcium. It has the same amount of calcium, then a glass of
Starting point is 01:26:20 milk. It's crazy. For lactose intolerant people, that is just amazing because they need calcium. Certain waters have that from nature. So what do you drink this for? Like if you're sick, if you are depleted, hungover. These are like the waters in the spa and bath towns where people still going there to this day, then treat themselves on these healing waters. It's good for digesting, for example. So this is actually when you cannot go to the restroom. That. Oh, it's like a magnesium drink. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:52 So it actually will help for your digesting system. Most of these very high mineral content waters are very good for digesting. It's very interesting. Amazing. But this is because I cannot open it because it's the only bottle I have. But this is, for example, the brand in Germany, Gerold Steiner, and that is medicine. The back label is a medicine back label. Up front here, there's a medication approving number printed on.
Starting point is 01:27:16 And even it says in the German language, do not, no, not for. children under 12 years. This is bottled water. Wow. You would think like what a bottled water needs to put a warning label in that's not for children under 12? No, because that's medicine. This is medicine. So would you drink the whole bottle or is there a dosage? They're putting it down how much you have to drink for what. Okay, gotcha. It's literally like medicine. They're telling you exactly what you do with this water. Amazing. So and I think that is like, again, this extreme confusion in America where everybody thinks water needs to be pure. Right. And then they're coming with their TDS meters. That's me.
Starting point is 01:27:50 No, and again, it's not bashing about you. Not at all. Because I totally understand where you're coming from. No, I know. I get it. I get it. I knew where you were coming from. I'm taking accountability.
Starting point is 01:27:58 And that was the issue with Americans, no wonder they're all freaking out when their TDS meter goes red. Right. I would freak out as well. When I didn't know, I would freak out and say, what is going on here, guys? So, no, it can be amazing, actually, when that thing goes red. Yes. That's like, yeah. So when you came in, you were freaking out.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah, we should drink this. It's called Sokasani. And why do you love this so much? It has a very cool taste profile. It's like the TDS is around 1,300 TDS. This is a still or the sparkling version. Can you see it? This is still.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Nice, even better. Yeah. Because the still version has a slightly effervescent to it. This is four times more electrolytes. It's loaded with electrolytes. 1,300 TDS. It's more than a Gatorade as well, this one. So this you couldn't drink all the time either
Starting point is 01:28:51 Yeah 1,300 is like it's okay I think like over 2,000 3,000 Then we're getting like Ooh now it's getting like intense Right A 1,300 like a pillegrino is 900 Okay
Starting point is 01:29:03 It's Pellegrino Yeah I'm not a huge Pellegrino fan So Tsukasani from Peru The fun part is that this is natural occurring bubbly So it has super tiny bubbles Yeah that's what I was like Is this sparkling?
Starting point is 01:29:18 The same with Borghumi. This was natural bubbles. So that happens when you have old volcanic reactions in the grounds. The water path through the different stone layers. We'll pick up now the CO2 slightly due to the magma. And now the water becomes acidic from a pH standpoint. And acidic water has more dissolving power than still water, what has a higher pH has.
Starting point is 01:29:41 So therefore, the sparkling natural sparkling waters always have a higher TDS as well. Because they have more dissolving power. So that's the reason. 300, 4,000. This one is 2,500. Like these
Starting point is 01:29:54 natural cooling sparkling waters are always super high in TDS. All right. Let's give it a world. Created by nature. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:30:04 That was shocking. I didn't hate it though. No, I love that water. I'm a big fan of Sukhasani. Yeah, it's got a little tang to it,
Starting point is 01:30:15 but then after you swallow, it's, okay, so you drink it, it's sparkling, you swallow it still. Yeah, yeah. Right? It's very interesting.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Yeah. And especially after Bourgeoisie, obviously, it feels so much more approachable than Bourgeoisie. Some people love Borghomi. They love the taste. My wife loves high metal content waters. Yeah. She's addicted to it.
Starting point is 01:30:36 And I think there has something to do with her childhood as well because she always been in water and trained as an Olympic swimmer. So she always needed electrolytes. So for her, water for her is not just hydration. She wants the electrolytes as well. She graves for this. And that's the reason sometimes when you see in tests, oh, look, tap water again, one in a blind taste against bottled water.
Starting point is 01:30:57 That does not mean that the tap water is actually better. That just means you grown up on that taste profile of the tap. You think that is good water. And you think suddenly that a water, what you don't like from a taste perspective, is suddenly bad. So it has something to do with your childhood. Would you suggest anybody in America drink tap water out here? We should all drink tap water because it's the most sustainable way, but you should filter at first.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Okay. That's my suggestion, but I think I'm not against tap water at all. I'm a pro-tapped water person. Very important to me, but I have a feeling because the infrastructure needs to be clearly more money invested there. We have huge problems with the infrastructure in America. I think we all know that. And especially when it comes to all our pipes in this country is so big, I totally understand it's a huge undertake for the country. So I'm not even saying they are bad.
Starting point is 01:31:45 we just have that problem we need to fix it we saw what in Flint Michigan happened but they tried to make it cheaper they switched over to a new water source and didn't realize that the city of Detroit where they used to get the water adding something into the water to prevent their pipes from corrosion
Starting point is 01:32:02 so they didn't do that and after two days all the pipes were starting to get corrosive and the water was brown and then there was highly let so there was poison it was poison that water then they switched it back to their original Detroit water but the harm was done because all the pipes were now
Starting point is 01:32:17 done. So they had to change out all the pipes and they're still doing it since 11 years. They are still fixing the pipes in Flint. Now think you need to fix the whole country. Obviously it's a huge undertake so we have to make sure we're putting money aside
Starting point is 01:32:33 to do this. The last administrative, what we had before, this administration now, they actually started to invest in water infrastructure and they put a plea on it that in 10 years no more lead pipes are allowed to be here in America, what I think is a great step in the right direction. We need
Starting point is 01:32:50 to put goals to each other to say even 10 years sounds crazy when you think about how much work that actually is, it's not crazy. But we need to put goals together to get better water into every single household in America. Because water is a human right. That's what I'm standing
Starting point is 01:33:05 for. I'm not a fancy guy who just drinks fancy waters with beautiful ladies in this beautiful house here in Nashville. No, my passion actually goes for every person who don't have clean and ecstasyist, drinking water. We need to bring awareness to water because without water we wouldn't be here. Martin, that's what it is. You're a blessing and the world is lucky to have somebody like you.
Starting point is 01:33:29 I appreciate that. But I need the content creators like you to spread the words as well. And the more we are, the more power we have, the more we talk about water, the better is for everybody. Even for our little fur animals. They need water too. They need water too. Haley has a question.
Starting point is 01:33:45 do you like the BRIDA water filters that you put the water into the containers and it filters it or would you recommend a filter like on the actual i've seen the ones on the sinks where they go through that what do you like better it depends what you want a filter obviously a $20 britta filter will not filter the same way than a reverse osmos system for $2,000 it's it's let's be honest so like that's a totally different game plan it may be filter something so the cheapest britter filter literally just gets rid of chlorine. That's all what that is. It doesn't filter anything else. Have you seen the ones that have mold that they like... No, yeah. The problem is with filters and you have a point there, the problem is when you have a filter, a filter is nothing other than a sponge. That's what a filter is. So when you don't clean your filter, you have a problem at one point. That's the same. We all know, I think, in our kitchen, we have all the sponges everywhere. You should actually trash them after a week. You need to get rid of them. You need to get rid of them. They are like actually at one point they will give more harm than benefits to you.
Starting point is 01:34:46 And that's the same with a filter system. So the huge problem is that you're thinking, oh, my fridge has a built in filter. I have to worry. Okay, when did you change your filter from your fridge? Never. How old is your fridge? 20 years.
Starting point is 01:35:00 We have a problem. You might be drinking actually now super poisoned water every day. You need to obviously maintain the filters. At one point they're full. So my reverse is most system. for example, tells me when. This smart system.
Starting point is 01:35:18 So sometimes you have to do it yourself, sometimes you have to read the manual. They're saying every two or every three month. It really depends what kind of filter. So again, there's no best filter as well because it depends on your house, what you need to get rid of. I kind of make a recommendation
Starting point is 01:35:30 when I have no clue what's in your house actually for water. But a brittle filter, a cheap one is literally just for chlorine. You can even save the money there. Just put your tap water into a cariff, leave it, overnight in your fridge, because chlorine is a gas, and the chlorine will be gone in 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:35:47 What do you think of... For free. Copper water. Have you heard of, like, the copper, if you leave it in... So copper, copper, like silver as well, is antibacterial. That means it can actually kill bacteria, what is pretty cool. That's the reason in the medieval times, a lot of people use copper silverware or copper cups or silver because they knew the benefits that bacteria
Starting point is 01:36:12 will begin killed from that. What is pretty awesome. So to drink, like when you're hiking and you bring your copper glass or something, obviously it cannot kill everything, but the chance you get sick is lower in that kind of a vessel versus a plastic vessel. What is pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:36:32 I love that. Last but not least, I want to ask you about what is going on with the Perrier drama Oh my God, I have several videos on that And there you can see as well How I Martin Reza can actually turn to To being a fan of a brand to be what the fuck Right
Starting point is 01:36:50 And peep that out please I don't know if kids Oh no please cuss more Okay, you know But like that is for me It's so bad what happened there So the problem was what came out For several years ago already That they are filtering actually their spring water
Starting point is 01:37:04 What is not allowed under the European law Because when you have spring water you're not to touch it. There are several regulations what you're allowed to do. For example, you can extract iron, you can add carbonation or extract carbonation
Starting point is 01:37:16 and like small little other things like micro bacteria you can kill, you can UV light it or zone it to make sure that micropacteria will be killed that nothing will happen in the water because let's be honest, when you open a bottle of water and leave it in the sun for like two months,
Starting point is 01:37:29 that thing is growing with 1 billion bacteria. Again, saw a video about some, sorry, idiot guy who had a three-month-old Fiji bottle open on his thing and said why it's green they're selling us
Starting point is 01:37:41 poison no dummy you had a water container open for three months yes there's microbacteria everywhere where we have
Starting point is 01:37:48 and from water comes life that's all what that is that's live where it's created right now so please don't tell me that Fiji water
Starting point is 01:37:55 is selling me crap no you had it for three months open what's happening with your milk in three months it will grow
Starting point is 01:38:02 it will walk right next to you the milk container yeah like really like come on Or clean your damn car out, bro. Yeah, so what happening with Perrier?
Starting point is 01:38:12 So they found out that they're actually filtering their water, what they're not allowed to do under the European law. But they charge premium as a mineral water. And the term mineral water is very regulated under the European law. When it says natural mineral water, you cannot filter. You're not allowed to do certain things. And they did. So they found it out.
Starting point is 01:38:33 They found out that they even try to do a deal with French government. So this whole drama is actually even in the government that they try to bullshit around there. And for sure about I have no clue obviously internally what happened there, but for sure it's all about money to try like, I will give you some money
Starting point is 01:38:51 and then just change some laws that we can still do this what we're doing. So now you suddenly see on the American market, Massau Perrier and you'll be like, they just rebranded? No, no, no. It's a different source. But they're not allowed to say anymore. Spring
Starting point is 01:39:07 water from Perrier. That's, it's forbidden by law. So they had to change it to Marsour Perrier. It's a totally different water. What's in there? And it not even tells you in the eye. And there, for example, they are untransparent.
Starting point is 01:39:21 No water quality report on the homepage. I can't find anything there. I reached out to them once, pay email, and said, can you please tell me where the water's coming from? No response. So that is untransparent what this guy said. They're hiding something. Maybe he should start there.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Yeah. and up with a water company from America who supports American jobs. Again, I'm getting upset. Don't go plaster. I'm getting dehydrated. Listen, if you drink crazy out there these days. It drives me nuts.
Starting point is 01:39:52 And I see every day I see now crazy people talking on the internet about crazy stuff when they have no clue about. And it's so sad because they're scaring others. And one more thing about scare tactics on my channel as well, you will see it. there was a lady doing the fires in Los Angeles what we had in
Starting point is 01:40:09 January. She was sitting in her Beverly Hills mansion. You can see her big house. She was completely remodeled. Nothing wrong with this. I have a lot of friends who are doing this. I don't have any issues with that. Whatever floats your boat. I don't care. But she goes on the internet
Starting point is 01:40:25 and says, they're poisoning us. Our tap border sped because I live in Beverly Hills proper. What she said, proper. 9-210-0 proper. Like, how more self, like, as holy can you be, in my opinion? So she used the TDS meter. She put it into her tap water.
Starting point is 01:40:45 And she said, look at this. It's red. Look at this. It's poison. Then she used distilled water. And I was like, really, she put now the TAS medium distilled water. Distilled water means obviously zero. Everything is filled out.
Starting point is 01:40:59 That's what distilling means. And it was green obviously. And she's like, there you have it. So I did it. First of all, I called her out and I sent her a DM first. I think, you have a little problem there? Like, I'm more than happy to explain
Starting point is 01:41:13 what that actually is what you did. And she's like, fuck off. And I was like, and then I said, like, just to give you the heads up, I'm going to do a debunk video about you on my channel and it will not be pretty. When you're not, like, please delete this video because it's literally misinformation.
Starting point is 01:41:29 You're spreading fear to others who don't have access to water right now. This is like, it's so wrong on, many levels. And she is again like, I don't care. He's saying, here we go. A day later, that thing went viral. That video, what I created, she had to close all her social media accounts. What I feel actually bad? I don't want that. I don't want to call out people and that they have to, that they have to like shut down their socials. I don't want that. Yeah, but you're kind of like the water avenger. And I think that people should be open to being corrected. You were. Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Of course. You said, hey, maybe there is more. We should actually. talk to this guy. I would love to learn and more people who are going to make videos like that, like you need to be okay with being corrected, especially if we're not professionals. Because I'm learning as well. When a doctor tells me, Salim Martin, maybe you need to tweak it there because maybe you said something about it's from a, from a physician standpoint, maybe no hundred percent
Starting point is 01:42:24 right? I want to learn. I want to learn that I can be better even. But what I say most, and I'm saying this again as well here on the podcast, please fact check me, guys. Please fact check even me. don't take everything granted what I said I tried my best to do my research
Starting point is 01:42:38 in all abilities but I don't have a lab at home to run a water quality report for waters I have to rely on information I'm surprised you don't because you just can't do it at home. There's so many factors what could alternate the results that you have to have professional people
Starting point is 01:42:54 who are trained for that to do this actually and that's the reason I have to obviously relay as well on other information and I have to trust others and yes we need to trust each other because let's be honest i flew over from los angeles over to national today i had to trust the airline i had to trust the pilot that he puts me down here safely my uber driver was a great person i loved her so much she was such a fun girl she talked to me the whole time and i was sleeping in
Starting point is 01:43:22 the back but she talked the whole time and it was great she she like she had this beautiful voice where i can totally pass off yeah because i was a little i was a little i was a little tired poor thing Well, thank you. She was great. And I gave her good tips and everything. And I had to rely on her that I can close my eyes and relax a little bit. And I know she won't do an accident. So we have to trust certain people. But again, be skeptic. And when something is too good or too weird, too bad suddenly, maybe there's a background. What I said about the person, what I think is cool that he has an app. But how he's trying to sell his app is not okay, in my opinion. He's fearmongering. He pulls out videos about how bad everything is and everybody freaks out. And then, oh my God, I have to pay now, I don't know how much his description is and that I know that what water is safe.
Starting point is 01:44:14 I've talked to water companies where they said his results are totally different than my results. I have at my company. Totally different. So I have no claw he tests. Maybe something's wrong with his test even. I don't know. I don't know his.
Starting point is 01:44:25 I don't know him. He reached out once to me and I said to me, I'm sorry, I'm not available for you. Yeah. I'm not interested. part of your app. Yeah. I don't like the business model there.
Starting point is 01:44:35 I agree. I wouldn't want to be a part of it either. Martin, thank you so much for taking the time to sit down with us and go over everything with us and just always here for you. Being here and just being such a light to the world. And I'm just so excited to get to collab with you more and just watch your journey also. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I'm doing a lot of podcasts. It's always funny. I'm a regular on the H3 podcast with Ethan Klein. I don't know if you know him. Yep. With Hila and Ethan. And it's funny to be there sometimes. go they have a huge team obviously and they're all talking to each other and and we're always
Starting point is 01:45:05 doing some fun videos together and and i love them i love the family i love the fans i love your friends as well because some of them reached out as well and said like how martens is so cool i'm such a big fan of you and now you're going to her podcast my god two two worlds collides it was so nice to see the the feedback actually of your of your followers as well they're sweet and that's the reason i said as well let's go over there i don't care what it costs i want to be here. I want to talk about you because again, we need to help each other out. I love it. That's all what it is. And I think that's to the end. I would love to say, please, guys, help your neighbor, help your loved ones. Don't scream immediately on the internet when you see
Starting point is 01:45:47 something super bad. Let's try to scale back our voices and be a little bit more, feel a bit more compare, like, what is the English word for this? Like, companionship, companionship. Yes. Compassion. Here we go. That's the word I was looking for. Be a little bit more compassion to each other because you don't know what happened in their lives, maybe. And you know what happened in my life. So maybe let's understand each other a little bit better. Yes. And then we can talk about our differences, but just screaming doesn't help anybody. Capslock never gets you anywhere. Let's be all American and let's help each other out. That's a strong community and that's a strong country. Amen. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks again.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Thank you guys for turning into another episode of Dunblond. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.

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