Dumb Blonde - Mary Carey: Two Time California Governor Candidate Spills All - Part 1

Episode Date: May 20, 2021

We are back for Season 3! Bunnie goes big and kicks off this season with Part One of guest Mary Carey, Ex-porn actress, Model, Reality TV star, and two time Governor Candidate of California. This silly and not so dumb busty blonde shares how she got into adult film, what her first scene was like, how she won the hearts of men such as Howard Stern and Eminem, and why she is deciding to run for Governor in California again. Mary talks about being a little girl dreaming of running her own ballet studio to now possibly running the state of California. Chances are you've seen her on TV, now get ready to see her on the campaign trail.  Bunnie: www.dumbblondeunrated.com Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com Mary: https://marycarey.com/ "We are all working through childhood trauma, so don't think you are more f*cked up than anyone else." - Bunnie   "If something is not fun, I don't do it." - Mary   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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all right gentlemen coming to main stage next this is bunny get up there she's got a tornado of titties coming your way get those dollar bills ready she's got an ass that shakes like michael j fox so get up there and throw throw throw them dollars dude that is fucking iconic what's up you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today i have the ultimate dumb blonde that is not what i was gonna say what though that's what i i honestly it's so funny because that's kind of when I created Mary Carey, like, I was like, she has to be like this bubbly, like, it was kind of like the persona I wanted her to be.

Yeah, totally. But everything was always very calculated. Well, I know. But the ultimate dumb blonde. No, the ultimate starlet and icon, Mary Carey, is what I was going to say. But I'm so happy that you're here. When I did name my podcast dumb blonde Blonde, it was tongue in cheek. Exactly.

You know, because people look at us, they're like, oh, they got. And then they really believe it. I'm like, you know what? If I was really that dumb, like, would you have a podcast? Yeah. Would I be able to plan this? Like, you know what I mean? I've got really that dumb.

Yeah. Only but only dumb people will think you're dumb. Exactly. You know, like small minds discuss small things. That's what I always say. So let's do it. We have so much to unpack here i know let's fucking dive if we don't do now we'll catch up in nashville yeah yeah yeah no i'm really excited about you coming out it's actually the only well okay and his sister's there so i'm only gonna do a few cities again a featuring yeah i told them i'll do their nashville club yeah he wants to see his sister i want to see you oh yay

no i love it so okay let's tell everybody you're coming out to Nashville when I don't know the date yet but basically because I mean this is like skipping around yeah I'm gonna run for governor again which to be honest like I when I heard about the recall happening I didn't know if I want I didn't really want it to right because I knew I had to do it again right I was like oh so much work like um thank god I like kept my place in California kept myself a California resident solely because I have the best license picture yeah 2005 dude and I'm like I don't want to switch that not only that it's like the written test scares me I failed the

written test four times in LA yeah I finally got my license so I was like I just don't think I can do it again down here I don't want to study people just study. I'm like, no. But I'm a California resident. So let's tell it. Let's bring it back real quick. So you're going to be performing in Nashville. Do you know where you're going to be performing at? You know what? I want to do the Deja Vu Club, but they're making me do Hustler

because they just opened it, and I guess it's bigger. Okay, yeah, yeah. I don't know much about it. Yeah, the clubs out there don't really tickle my pickle. I grew up in Vegas So they're nothing Like the clubs in Vegas For me for featuring What I loved about it

Is because I actually Like don't like guys Touching me Sorry guys Yeah I like the club For the Holy Spirit And so in Nashville

The first time I featured There in 2010 And I remember them Telling me like the guys Can't touch you Yeah I was like Used to put my boobs In guys faces and all this

And they're like Oh there's zero contact In fact the guys Have to at that point Give the money to the bouncer And then to you And I'm like I'm gonna make no money that is so weird but then i could never work like that but then the first show i made like five or six hundred tips and i was like what because when they're not used to doing it's we go to a club where

they're used to that and you don't do it the west coast no money yeah so i was just like yeah but seattle and um nashville like you can't touch and they give you good money i always call that leaving room for the holy spirit so i like that now yeah you and they give you good money. I always call that leaving room for the Holy Spirit. So I like that now. Yeah. You're going to come, you're going to come out there in the future

and we're going to definitely get together whenever you're out there. My out of retirement party. Okay. So you were saying that you, you don't know who I am maybe. Exactly.

You know what? Why don't you tell everybody who you are, Mary? Let's tell everybody who the Mary Carey is. So in case people, I'm sure that unless they live under a fucking rock. You know what? It depends. It's funny. I can tell everybody who the Mary Carey is so in case people I'm sure that unless they live under a fucking rock I can tell now with the guys who are OnlyFans or if I can or

anything if they always like do you know who I am if I don't I'm like you're under the age of like 30 or 28 then you know what I mean because I mean I was only like 19 20 21 you know when I first started doing stuff and then so I wasn't, you know, and then 23, and I actually can always tell by their age too, if they're like 28 to 34, I'm like, ah, you saw me on Cinemax in like 2005. Because I'm like, I can always tell because they were not able to watch porn online. But, um, yeah, no, let's see. I started, I started stripping because I wanted, I was like, I was a ballet dancer growing up and um so awesome yeah ballet okay where were you born I was born in Ohio okay so you're like what Cleveland Cleveland but I don't I moved here when I was seven I moved to Florida when I was seven gotcha and um I was

raised by my grandparents so you're a Florida girl at heart I consider myself a Florida girl definitely I think I have because I feel like Florida girls Florida if you like grow up here like breeds alcoholism you know kind of like a Vegas I was gonna say Vegas you're in Fort Lauderdale growing up it's kind of very similar and um my mom is schizophrenic and she was adopted so my grandparents had adopted her and raised her gave her they were amazing people right and um but you know they didn't really want her to have a baby because she was a lot of work for them right and then but she met my dad who has severe cerebral palsy oh you know they had met like i think like a church retreat you know and so then they had me and at three months old you know like they were not taking good care of

me i mean i've done so much like work through like different rehabs i've gone to yeah apparently those three months of life is what caused me to need so much attention now later in life is because and drinking no but you're not the only one childhood trauma i'm working through childhood trauma she's working through childhood we're all working through childhood trauma so don't think that you're more fucked up than anybody else like we're all fucked up baby no i believe every human is yeah but everyone's a different thing you know kudos to you for even recognizing it and you know accepting the help that people gave you so keep on going for me to believe it though because when you go to reham they tell you your to you for even recognizing it and you know accepting the help that people gave you I mean it's hard for me to believe it though because when you go to rehab they tell you your traumas

and they would always tell me no it's those first three months of life when you're with your mom and dad who you know my mom goes my mom because she's handicapped she's like I thought you were gonna be like a doll but you were much harder and they just like left me in the like I have no sense of smell because like I had high fever no one took me to doctor I've lost a sense of smell and but I don't remember any of that right you know but you still have no sense of smell because like I had high fever no one took me to doctor I've lost a sense of smell and but I don't remember any of that right you know but then you still have no sense of smell never have had one my whole life and I didn't even know until I was in sixth grade and I did like a silent fart so I thought farts were all just noises and then so I let out a silent one and everyone in the class was just like I don't ever smelt it like someone farted and I was like

in my mind I'm like how did I know it didn't make a noise. And then I asked my grandparents. And it turned out, and then doctors did some tests. So COVID would have never even fucked with you. I wouldn't have known. I wouldn't have known. That is crazy. So can you taste food? I mean, that's the thing.

I love to eat. So I feel like I taste it the way I've only known. Right. But I think it was why it was really easy to become a vegetarian also. Because I love all my, I was a vegetarian age 12 age 12 right and so all the fake meat products to me like a fake chicken nugget tastes like a chicken yeah because it's like texture i love vegan stuff like vegetarian stuff but i think having no sense of smell makes it easy you know yeah totally so let's go back to the three months old parents yeah let's go back to the three months old because i'm kind of trying to paint a timeline

here for everybody so they can see how beautiful your story is you know see moved most of my grandparents um I moved with them with my mom okay we moved to Florida when I was seven and then they legally adopted me at eight and um and to me was mom still in the picture she's always there with us but to me it was like having a sister she never really like didn't caregiving for me um my grandparents did everything so my grandma they were my grandma was like my mom and right because after having my mom who was handicapped that all they want was normal when I came along and I was all of a sudden this like straight a student I was like student of the year for the whole like the city I was president vice president student council I was not so dumb blonde huh I always went for vice president

roles because I never won the full responsibility of president right so I always you want the title yes exactly it's all I've ever cared about I feel that 100 and then I was really good at dance and dance became my thing and then in seven so you did ballet I did ballet well I did I competed in like jazz tap and ballet until is it true that ballet like breeds um eating disorders you know yeah she's like i'm not gonna be sure yeah i mean i remember being like i didn't even get my period till i was 16 and but because of that like while the other girls got it young because i was dancing six seven hours a day right i was so thin that by the time i finally got it like i actually had like a seizure in school and fainted because my, my hormones were so messed up from it.

But then when I got it all of a sudden. Were you throwing up or just not eating? Oh, I had no, I ate a lot. That was the crazy thing. Yeah. But your metabolism doesn't slow down until you get your period. Right. So I hadn't gotten it till I was 16.

Right. Because my hormones were messed up from being so thin. But that was from, I mean, I danced probably maybe six hours, seven hours a day. Right. It was like, God, you know, from three o'clock until like 10 o'clock at night, you know, regular classes and solo rehearsals. And, um, and I was obsessed with it. It's all I ever wanted to do.

And, um, so when I got my period, it was, oh yeah, it was, well, you know, I realized now looking back, it was an addiction. Like I get very addicted to anything I like. I think that people, it was an escape maybe also? You know, I think it was, I think I just, well, it was something I was really good at and I realized

like I was always the star girl of it and I liked, I loved being on stage. Right. I liked being center of attention. I think,

you know, and I had, I just was fun but like I, I don't know. I feel like because I was always rewarded early with it.

Yeah. You know, I don't know. It just was like something I loved. It was just your thing. Yeah. But then I went through puberty late and I was like all of a sudden I put on weight and I remember my ballet teacher yeah you know I don't know I just was like something I loved yeah but then I

went through puberty late and I was like all of a sudden I put on weight and I remember my ballet teacher you know a couple months after my period she was like well we measured you for your costume I was like the main part she's like off your roll you know off your body a year ago so you've got three months or else you're not the main role and you know that's very hard to tell a 17 year old so I was having in it her whole fucking life yeah and i'd write down all my food for her and like bring it every day and it wasn't a healthy diet but i was keeping my calories low i'd have a diet coke and a fat-free pop tart every morning a frozen yogurt for lunch that's not you know a piece of pita bread so that definitely you know and that's what

happens so it definitely breeds that but um i couldn't imagine being a fucking ballet teacher telling a little girl that this is all she can eat. Like, I understand telling a kid no fried food, no soda, stuff like that. But to, you know, micromanage it down to what you were eating. Oh, they're strict. When I was 16, I was at the Cleveland Ballet School for a summer program. I used to audition and I'd have to go over. I had a scholarship because we couldn't afford for me to just go to where I always got in. And I went to Cleveland Ballet full scholarship because I was full scholarship i had to get weighed every week right scholarship girls would

if you gained weight they take your scholarship away that's a freaking like that's something that they really do they weigh you to keep your scholarship like talk about and they told us and they told us smoke cigarettes and eat lettuce is what they told in our the lady who's like running our like pilates class she's like okay girls like she was like i don't remember what kind of span she was like eat your lettuce and smoke your cigarettes how are these people not getting canceled like that's crazy well this was 1996 oh true true very true because now i feel like that shit would not fly i don't know but you watch dance moms which is current true i was obsessed with that show but all right so let's go through so you went dancing dancing

my grandparents gave me everything they then i remember like in my eighth grade because I was this like straight a student which is great when you're in elementary school and being the overachiever but you know where I lived my middle school Margate middle was like it was no longer like cool to be a straight a student who has A's but still to do extra credit wants to go to ballet and I remember being in seventh grade like oh my god like I going to be a complete social outcast. Yeah. And thank goodness they got me into, you know, I had to take all these tests.

And because my dance, it's like $36,000 a year. It's considered the number one private school in the United States right now, actually. It's in Fort Lauderdale called Pinecrest. Okay. I've actually heard of it. And I got into there. Wow.

And I did for dance and academics, and I got together. I never knew any of this stuff about you. Yeah, it was amazing. That's so cool. It was so great. I remember, like, you know, my middle school, I had been a victim of, like, my first day of school, like, a kid stealing, you know, some older girl stealing my chips.

Another day, like, some kid punching kids, just randomly punching kids in the hallway, and I got punched. Like, if you did not hold on to your stuff, it was stolen. So I go to this private school, and I remember the first. I got punched. Like, if you did not hold on to your stuff, it was stolen. So I go to this private school and I remember the first. Completely different world. Oh, yeah. I mean, I remember I was going to lunch and these girls just met me. I'm like, what do I do with my backpack?

I'm like trying to bring it in the cafeteria. They're like, just leave it. I'm like, what do you mean? Just leave it? Yeah. And I used to always backpacks line the hallways. And over the course of those five years, I mean, sometimes I leave my backpack and three hours later you go back and like nothing is stolen. Yeah. I I did that too I went to public school and then my parents got me in

private school and it was like a whirlwind for me and then I went from private school back to public school and it was just game over from there well I can't imagine if I had to go back yeah I mean unfortunately though it was a super sheltered life I had you know and then meanwhile so all of that was so great and like you know even though I I wasn't like, I know it was like the poorest kid at my school because my grandparents did everything. And I was a dancer. I, you know, I, I felt like I fit in really well. I fit in because it was a school of like nerds.

Right. You know, so I got to be cool. I was a school of nerds, you know, and it was great. But then my grandfather died when I was 16 and that really, and my grandmother's Parkinson's got worse and they were kind of just, you know, everything so all of a sudden at 16 I'm like taking care of my grandma my grandfather's gone which was my father figure and my mom like I'm having to learn to take care of her a little too right so that part you know that was hard yeah and then now then that's where I can notice like after all my therapy the shift in it turned from like little ballerina girl to

all of a sudden like I wanted to have boyfriends I needed to have attention ballet wasn't my priority because well because your your father figure was gone exactly you needed that love and I had a fear of oh my god my grandma's gonna die next I have no family right so quickly then I started I turned to drinking and partying and always having boyfriends and ballet. And then, you know, I had full scholarships for college for ballet. So I went to FSU on a scholarship for dance, but my grandma. Like I have goosebumps.

I didn't know any of this about you. I think that's insane. I didn't get to like fulfill it because I had to transfer back to my grandma. But still, it's the point that you were doing all this. You know, people, they look at like sex workers like us and they just assume like, oh my God, she was abused as a child and fucking had a horrible life. It's true.

And it's like, when you get to hear this side of your story, it's actually really empowering. You know, that's funny, because that's something Dr. Drew, like, the first, like, week when I would meet with him, he's like, nope, you were molested. You were definitely sexually, you were, as a child. Right. And I was like, no, like, he's like, you're repressing.

I'm like, no, Drew, if anything, I think I was, like, overly attentioned as a child, 100% overly attentioned. Because I'm so much, you know, that's the, no, like, he's like, you're repressing. I'm like, no, Drew, if anything, I think I was like overly attentioned as a child, 100% overly attentioned because I'm so much, you know, that's the other thing. So, so much of the way we behave as adults is how we behave as children. And I literally treat like, I treat my husband and any guy I've been in a relationship with the same way I treated my, like, look at me, do this for me. And like, I'm, I'm bratty and I need attention. And if I'm not getting attention, it's really hard.

Her husband's here, by the way. It's very hard and I notice even yeah like I have very unhealthy relationships with all well unhealthy just because I need like

I need to be around them at all times the constant affection you know I'm not gonna yeah well that stems back to your grandfather you know passing away

so after that when did you make the turn to start how did you even get into like the adult industry well I remember the first time i ever saw porn or anything i was 16 and my girlfriends was having a party at her house and they had like those channels and we had our boyfriends over and the guys were watching those girls and i was so mad

i was like so i i turned into oh my god like now you know the way girls do that's so gross why are you watching it ew but i didn't think that I thought like why aren't I the blonde with the big boobs I wanted them to be looking at me that's how I was when I first watched but I pretended I was jealous

and I pretended that for the next year but then secretly I was like god this is so cool I want to be the girl that the guys like and then I started

then like I remember like I became obsessed with Pamela Anderson love Pam yeah I would knock her out on Friday nights because I had to watch you know

because we had DVR and I didn't know how to like yeah I worked at VHS so I had to watch VIP every Friday nights in college because I loved her outfits and the Baywatch yeah I never watched Baywatch I should have watched I did I wanted to watch her run around in that fucking I was still in ballet world it wasn't like I mean you know when I transferred I had to transfer home and I went to FAU I was taking care of my grandma and mom. And I was going to ballet. Like, I was a pre-professional with Ballet Florida at the time, which is now Ballet Palm Beach.

But slowly, it was just like, it was getting harder. It was like an hour drive from where I lived in Margie. And it was, you know, I had a boyfriend. And I just was struggling. I was struggling with my weight, you know, and I was just like, um, I remember I saw a sign for like the FAU dance team and I was like, God, I always wanted to be like a high school cheerleader and do that. You know, like my high school didn't really have cheerleading, but you know, you see movies

about it. Right. I'm like, you know, if I try out for that, that's God's way of saying to quit ballet. And so I did and they made the team. Wow. And so then I was like, and I loved it dancing at the games. gave me my attention but it was a lot less work how many athletes did we bang you know what well I was always like a baseball player girl growing up it wasn't until like when I was um in my 20s that turned to like um basketball you know we didn't have a football

team in LA but it's really what do they call the girls the baseball girls like cleat chasers or something like that I don't know what they was I don't know what they called us back then. Maybe they didn't even have a nickname. I don't even know if they had a nickname in the 90s. Yeah. But, and then when I was on the dance team, it was very hard to like, you know, I had different like work at a bagel shop, a hostess at a restaurant, but it was really hard to like go to school, go to practice.

And plus you were never taught those coping, you know, those. They never even taught me how to do like. Time management skills. No, they didn't. And to this day, like they never, those those coping you know those they never even taught me how to do time management skills no they didn't to this day like they never I never had a chore to do I never had to I still do not like I'm just really bad at like any like medial tasks I'm pretty much if something's not fun I won't do it right it'll be messy right you know I don't know how to do it but um you know so I remember I was like I gotta get a job so I worked at Hooters for three months well first I was doing like this dance we were like spirit type but bought misfit type dancing but that paid 100 bucks for like four or five hours which was great but then I worked at Hooters and then from there I remember like one time I

entered a wet t-shirt contest at a bar and I won and I was like amazing all the wet t-shirt I was like this was younger yeah like I got to get drunk underage I got to dance on stage and make good money and all everybody wants you yeah so cause you're the winner exactly

so from there though I still didn't I still didn't go to strip club I worked at I saw an ad it was like $200 for eight hours webcam modeling

yes and I was like you lived in a house we called it the girls house you didn't live there but we were tended yeah and I was like wow

and all these older girls and they were like you would make so much money stripping yeah and I still thought this was great money and We didn't live there, but we were attended. Yeah. I was like, wow. And I met all these older girls and they were like, you would make so much money stripping. Yeah. And I still thought this was great money. I was like, and I didn't tell the dance team

and like, you know, I had never even seen a vibrator before when I showed up there. They should bring your toys. And I was like, I think my grandma threw them away. Yeah.

Because I thought they literally meant like, you know, and then they had to like show me how to use it. And, but then I was like, then I entered a stripper amateur contest

and won that. And then from there, I was hooked. I'm like, then I entered a stripper amateur contest and won that. And then from there I was hooked. I'm like, this is the greatest. It just took off from there. Yeah. And then I was like, who doesn't for me,

especially I was a party girl. Like I get to get drunk. I get to dance. I was the opposite. I wanted to not be off on stage. Because you knew the money was not on the stage. Right. I didn't know.

And I remember not only that, but like, I didn't get the music selection and I remember for like the first three weeks I was like did you get oops I did it again for me yet and he's like not yet and then he surprised me with it and I would like dance like I was like oh my god I know the music video dance and I was like doing the dances and I remember watching the old I mean the older strippers were probably like 20s I get it they would also be looking and they would be laughing at me they'd be like what is this girl doing and I was like 20s. I get it. They would all of a sudden be looking at me and they would be laughing at me. They would be like, what is this girl doing?

And I was like on stage every 30 minutes. And you know, and the first time I went to a champagne room, I remember. The world is your oyster in those strip club movies. I was just like, for a champagne room,

I was like, oh my God, I get to drink champagne. He's giving me 150 bucks. Yeah. And I sat and talked and like talked for 30 minutes. You talk,

I could never imagine. I'm just kidding. But then after the first 30 minutes, it's like, OK, I'm going to buy another 30. Let me just go get a condom. I was like, what are you going to get a condom for? We're just going to talk and drink champagne in the champagne room. And he's like, OK, let me be right. No sex in the champagne room. Because I didn't know that.

Yeah. And so he told me he's going to go to the bathroom. I remember like 10 minutes went by. And finally, like a waitress came back. She's like, yeah, the guy left the club. He was not happy. Oh, no. You know, and I was like, what? He really like like a waitress came back. She's like, yeah, the guy left the club. He was not happy. Oh no. You know?

And I was like, what? He really like, you know, I had no clue. Yeah. And so I went around stripping. I was only a regular stripper for like three months, house stripper, because I kept getting in trouble for underage drinking. So I kept switching clubs until finally I found a club that believed this like fake idea had.

Yeah. But that club had features. Right. And I saw the features and I was so mad. I was like, I want to be one of them. She gets a fancy costume. She gets to be on stage

a really long time and makes a ton of money on that stage. And then her pictures everywhere. Yeah. So I was like, that was the only reason I got into porn or anything.

I was like, I want to be a feature entertainer. I want to be a showgirl. I want to be a showgirl. And so I called an agent because I was like, you just picked one. You didn't even know. Well I called an agent because I was like, they had to. You just picked one.

You didn't even know. Well, you know what? There was like a local stripper magazine that came out. And I collected them. I kept them under my bed. I hid them from my grandma. So I would read the porn star articles. And they would always say, book this girl at your club.

And so I just called that number. And it turned out he was down here. I met him at IHOP. And he was like, OK. He was like, what a place. Let's discuss your fucking porn career over some pancakes. IHOP, honestly, to like, okay. He was like, what a place. Let's discuss your fucking porn career over some pancakes. IHOP, honestly, like, to be honest, I think it was, like, somewhere off Oakland Park, over here.

That's crazy. And he was like, you know what? You're young. You're cute. He's like, you're blonde. They love blondes. He's like, let's come up with a name. And I was like, well, my stripper name's Victoria,

and my fake ID is Valderrama. I want to be Victoria Valderrama. He's like, no. He's like, you don't look Hispanic. He's like, the name's too long. He's like, the name's too long. He's like, that's just not going to work. He's like, what is your real name? Mary.

Mary Ellen Cook. OK. Well, then I was starting to do research. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to be really famous. I don't want two first names. That'll be too hard. Yeah.

So then I was like, I'm going to be Mary. And then he's like, OK. And then he's like, what celebrities do you like? I'm like, Mary Spears. Mary Aguilera. And then I said, well, people you like? I'm like, Mary Spears, you know, Mary Aguilera. And then I said, well, people used to think,

cause you know, in the nineties, especially like Mariah Carey. And I'm like, okay, I'll be Mary Carey. I'm like, it's funny and silly and cutesy.

And it goes together. It literally rolls off the tongue. You cannot forget that. The way you branded yourself, like you, people can say your name one time and never forget it. That was genius. Even though it went with my personality

You know what I mean Because it's I mean I feel like If you're someone who is more like Well really like I don't know I'm just I'm like a goofball

And so it doesn't work It worked you know Yeah And so Take me to Your first porn scene Where are we How old are we

I mean I shot stuff down here But I don't really count that My first time I went to LA I don't even know if I count My first LA one Because it was like the guy from so is that me up with someone in LA because he was gonna set me up with a stern show he was like come up with I love Howard yeah he was like well that was the best thing because he was like can you come up with a gimmick for

the stern show he's like I got a contact and this was like three months after I hop right and I was like well um my mom's handicapped and I could set her up on a date with Gary the retard and this was like three months after IHOP right and I was like well um my mom's handicap and I could set her up on a date with Gary the retard and I was like and he's like that's genius so I made this VHS tape of me in a bikini with my mom yeah sent it to like the Howard Stern show contact and they called me and then from there it was just always going back to so what was it like going on Howard Stern how was that whole experience you know the first time I was so funny because I was just so clueless about everything I mean that was the best thing about was he nice is that all a persona he he would get so the first time I went when you're like off air he like doesn't talk to you at all second time I went

because he wants to save everything no it's like when I'm talking about like when you're done he like doesn't acknowledge that you're there oh but by the time because I ended up going on around 17 times right like nine years wow and so as the time would go on there's a lot more talking like it honestly became like his uh his like the the people like will we would like everyone would just come hang out with me in the green room yeah i also like because i used to do a lot probably he's a capricorn so he's like me we like to warm up to people i think he just is really you know a lot of times they don't know that first time you show up you're gonna be a girl that they're gonna have right you know they wait and see and i think once they

realize you know because i was just always you know i think they just knew that i was gonna be out there you know well you can't they had you on 17 times so obviously he dug what you were doing you know he was fun you were good for views yeah so so during when you went on the howard stern show were you doing porn at the time no i'm we the the i hop guy we sold me as porn star mary carrie his name was charlie fry okay charlie is no longer around because apparently he was very good to know he's not he's not dead oh okay i mean he's not around because he fucked over girls so bad unfortunately he was not to me but I heard crazy stories that they would like, he would like book features, like sometimes like tell the girl,

like rob the girl and then don't, and then you only have to, you send the money to me and you know, like crazy stuff that used to happen back in the 90s.

That's so sad because they're making money, like why get greedy? Like the girls are the reason why you're making money. I know. You know, like why do that?

All right, so take me to your first porn set. Okay, I'm going to count the first real one because I don't know if I count the first one. What, okay, when you say you don't'm gonna count The first real one Because I don't know If I count the first What okay when you say

You don't want to count The first real one Were we doing like Some backyard boogie shit Or what was going on No I mean it was like Let's see They didn't have hair and makeup

They rented a nice house in LA So it was like amateur But it was They made it really nice movies I mean it was called Rain Video Rain Productions Mitch Spinelli

I mean his dad was one Of the original pornographers But it just wasn't the same As then well then i worked a bunch for playboy tv and then i got very lucky from playboy tv because they ended up booking me for stuff making me a playmate at the year girl party and then like from there they put me on this show and they're like you know and then they kind of made me a host of a show so it was all happening but the first porn i would say my first real account is when i worked for Jill Kelly productions. Okay. So it was my first like real set. Yeah.

And, um, you know, I mean, but I only did girl girl until I got a contract because I had read before I got into porn. If you want to build up name for your feature dancing, you know,

this all circles back. If you want to get a high rate for feature dancing, you got to build up a name, you know, but that's smart. It started off as a hundred dollars show. And I went on Stern show is getting like $ hundred dollars a show then i did a little girl girl porn i was getting 300 a show then i got my porn contract i was getting 500 a show and i ran for

governor i was getting like 800 to a thousand a show so i was like you know i was just trying to build up the name to feature right but um but you did it you did the work too yeah i mean i was like probably researched it so much more than other girls but yeah i need to do girl girl only so i did a girl girl scene right and i i mean i was were you nervous you know what it's so funny i mean i'd made out with girls i never like when i first actually my okay so the first girl girl scene for that company i don't count i don't even think that company i don't even think that the movies are like on pornhub because any other company like it was like on a vhs i don't even but all i know is that when i watched it because i'd never gone down on a girl. Right.

So you guys, I'm like this though. I'm like, like, it looks like, like I didn't know to move my tongue. So it's like literally like, you should have just fake chowed.

She should have just fake chowed. No one told me. I wasn't even sure what was what. Yeah. But I'm just like, in the video, she said I wasn't sure what was what. My whole head is like a dog,

like lapping water you know it was totally awkward um do they teach you how to eat pussy on sets they just they're just like no i like kind of like rented a bunch of vhs's yeah i learned um i bought like when the boys are away the girls will play volume seven right from that and um so i got much better but i mean i still don't think i ever really knew what i was doing but to me it was weird it never phased me like I don't know it never phased me being naked in front of people like never when I don't know it just was like I feel the same way I don't mind being naked on camera or yeah get around people I'm just so free with my body I'm just yeah yeah I'm and the girl girl didn't really I mean to me I was like this is a movie role I mean

I'm like I'm on set I'm getting my hair and makeup done. I'm meeting other porn stars that have blonde hair, big boobs, and they're hot. And I have a wardrobe person. Oh, my God. I'm like, food, free food. Like, I'm the only girl that would be on set, like, pigging out. Because I was like, oh, my God. Nobody eats on porn sets.

No, but I didn't realize all the candy and stuff. That was, like, for the crew. But, I mean, obviously for the girls. But I was, like, the only girl that you would just see sitting there like eating oh i was like i loved it yeah this is the best well because girls don't want to look bloated yeah i know how it is because now i get it but trying to work with models now is just so hard nobody will eat or anything and i'm like fuck that i'm eating dude don't don't fucking play with me it never occurred to me so and to me it was just like it was just the most fun ever i was like this is like and i'm getting attention but

what's cool is you have literally lived out all of your entire dreams that you've ever wanted to do my dream would have been a while having my grandparents not died I would have stayed in ballet would have been my thing yeah and my ultimate dream when I was a little girl was to own my own ballet school I mean I started ninth and tenth grade on my word processor because we couldn't afford a computer making my flyers for my dance school like I had it all planned out right so that would probably in like knowing now like I would love to open a dance school but i know that because of my past parents would you know what i mean he's one i just well i just talked about this with aj applegate she was on the podcast before and she actually was a dancer too and she's she

said the same thing and i think that really fucking sucks for you guys you know it's so not fair that because you guys chose to make money a certain way that you know or even me i wouldn't be able to open up a kid's school either because we chose to to work in a certain industry that we can't work around kids or i know you know be upstanding upholding upstanding citizens or whatever it's true you know and that really you know that scares me because i really i mean that's the biggest thing right now is trying to have a baby we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that so after you know let's see I was always doing girl girl got my porn contract boy girl yeah with kick-ass pictures I chose them I remember I was debating

between vivid jill kelly productions and kick-ass back in the day vivid was the shit but I was like looking around and I did my research I'm like okay if I go with them you know I get to be the name vivid but it is vivid it's not Mary Carey right if I go with Jill Kelly I loved it because their girls were so pretty and I had pretty posters like these will be great for feature dancing yeah but then I my research was that Jenna Jameson was the first wicked girl and at the time Tara Patrick was big and she was the first digital where is Tara she kind of just lives in Italy now oh wow she's like fuck America I don't know yeah she lives in Italy but and she's a mom

yeah but um she's still doing her only fans and everything oh dope yeah i love her we were good friends for a while but yeah um that so i went with kick-ass because the owner of the company he told me if you sign with me which i signed with him in march of 03 he's like i'll make you a household name within six months to a year and i was like well you know he wants to promote his brand because at that point he had been distributed through Hustler so he just went on his own I like the idea of being the only one and getting the attention

right instead of having to be in a group and he did movies that cared more to my personality I mean because what we did

is like each of my movies well what he did is to brand it he's like every movie we put you in we're going to put the name Mary Carey

in it it's not going to be called like Busty Blondes it's Mary Carey this and so he made Mary Carey Rules and what we did is we made it like five scenes where gonna be like called like busty blondes it's mary carry this and so he made mary carry rules and what we did is we made it like five scenes where it was like a sketch comedy and i got to like at that time i was obsessed with eminem you know so i was like white rapper skittle

and you know and it was like little saturday night live skits and i got to improv it and so we did that and then i did um like one two three four boy girl scenes so over three movies and then he called me up one day and I was like do you want to run for governor and I was like I mean I dropped out of college my last year and I was a theater major yeah um I don't know can I and he's like well you're over 18 no felonies right I was like yeah no felonies like okay he's like we just gotta get your signatures and I'll pay your fee and you can do it so how old were you when you first ran for governor for California right I just turned 23 yeah when it happened we only had a week's notice

before the deadline yeah it was really at first and so originally he just kind of was hoping we would get some like ABN you know adult news press and so he scheduled for me to be in front of the LA courthouse in bikini and like holding signs and stuff and then the next thing you knew like the Howard Stern show came out everyone came came out, all the news channels. And he's like, okay, Mary, like we're doing this for real.

You're got to go to the courthouse and get that paperwork. Don't fuck this up. Yeah. So I went to the courthouse, got my paperwork. And then I started like meeting some of the press. And that was the key. I've always been friends with like,

I want to meet the press. And then that's the way to like find things out. So one of the press people was like, did you know that tomorrow Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to be here at two to turn his paperwork in? And like interesting so I got there and waited in my car and as Arnold was leaving I came walking up in my bikini I was like I'm here to collect signatures just to cap get off his press of course and then like I got my signatures it was really hard though because they had to be registered as most people are registered when

they say signatures is that so you have to get this signature like in person so like because like so many people over the years, I'm like, you don't get how hard this is to do. Recall, you need less signatures.

No, I believe it. But the regular election, you can't come online. If you get a signature, like, you know, for me, they have to be registered, declined to state,

independent. Right. So I had to re-register everyone to vote because I didn't trust them. If they told me they were, oh, I'm independent, I'm like, no,

you're re-registering to vote. Right. You know, and then they have to sign it. It be legible they have to not have a felony they actually have to live in the county to turn the paperwork in like i collected some so you have to get like how many signatures well this time you only need 65 that's why the recall but you know again i turned i turned in 400 and only like 80 were valid because they have to be legible they have to not have felonies. They have to be registered

to your political party. God, that many people have freaking felonies? Well, you know, and not only that, like I don't, yeah, I think that's, well, you know,

I went around to like, originally my idea to get signatures. I'm like, oh, go get all the dancers at the local strip clubs and a lot of them had felonies and they couldn't sign it.

Okay, so when you run for governor, what is your expectation? Are you doing it for fun are you well the first time it was totally like honestly at that point i was like i want to up my feature dance right this is all fucking circles back i mean i was like how am i gonna i am sick of traveling with this damn baby pool okay i want to just i don't want to do lotion shows i just want to get up there and dance and get a lot of money so i love it no and i'm well you know I love being I love being on camera too being dancing on stage and being on camera yeah is like my favorite like anything like that's fun for me so it was fun so but you know it was obviously it

was he was just like this is what publicity stunt and I learned so much from him because he had been a publicist before 15 years before the porn company so he taught me how to write the press releases he taught me like you know my first fox interview was on the heartland um john I still say his name wrong kasha kaisik or whatever but you know the owner of kick ass gives me this like list of things he's like this is like we have a deficit of this much all these facts and I just like memorized them so I'd mix in my facts with like my silliness and then it just worked from there. And then, you know, it was only like it was six weeks because recall the there's not much time for campaigning. Right.

Six weeks. It just was like every day a different show. We did different, you know, publicity stunts. And then I did the game show. Who wants to be governor of California? And I won that. So that was like twenty one thousand two. That was fun.

Yeah. I was based on votes. And and then I got to feature dance for a lot of money. So that was like $21,000 too. That was fun. Yeah. It was based on votes. And then I got to feature dance for a lot of money. So I was so happy. And then I started getting hunted down. Like Eminem was the first celebrity to contact me. And he was like my number one crush. And I was married at the time.

And my husband and I. I made out with Eminem. Oh my God. He's my favorite. Well, now you know what? Once I met him in person, I was so disappointed. Because he was short. I've never told anybody that on camera. Well, for me, just such a because i'm five foot nine yeah and i knew it

was gonna be short and so i remember like i had a big i was in i had these big furry like boots or kind of like ugly but like with the short skirts i'm like okay i'm gonna make sure i'm like as short as i can be yeah it was still shorter than me and i mean i remember when i talked to him the first time like why do you even like me yeah because you look like Mariah and Kim combined and I was like well I mean I like the Mariah part but the Kim part I'm not so happy about you do look like his baby mama actually she looked better once once she got some money yeah I don't want to I look like we all do I look like her after Eminem had money not like not eight mile Kim you've already been drugged through the ringer we're not talking shit no um we all look better when we come so how many times have you ran for governor only that one time

okay so this will be your second time yes so this time are you doing this now as publicity stuff are you doing this because you really want to do it obviously i want you know it's so fun to be able to put your opinions out there. Absolutely. Are you a political person? Because I'm not. I find. I think politics are a shame. You know, I mean, I think the politics now is bad. I mean, I think it's ridiculous because nobody, I mean, I always consider myself what I would

tell the news because then I went to some President Bush dinners as like a big joke. You know, the owner of the porn company, he was like, okay, we're going to say we're Republicans. And like two years later after I was governor, he paid to go to the Bush dinner. Even though we're not Republicans, it was like $2're gonna say we're Republicans and like two years later after I was governor he paid to go to the Bush dinner even though we're not Republicans it was like 2,500 a person and they didn't realize when they invited him yeah and he said submitted my paperwork as Mary Ellen Cook and he waited till they accepted us and then like three days before sent out a press release like porn star Mary Carey going to Republican dinner and so then I started saying yes and I remember I was on the Daily Show they're like how long have you been republican i was like approximately three days and like i was like but i was like um i'm so i really am i'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative yeah i think i'm like anarchist

i'm like you screw the government and do not care the government politics today is it should be down the it no one is extremes are crazy you know and i don't everybody's got a fucking opinion because of the internet it's like social media like you know it's just crazy yeah i'm really excited for you though how do you feel about running up against caitlyn jenner how do you think you know she's gonna do i think she'll do well i mean i'm hoping i do have you ever met caitlyn i haven't that's in the kardashians but they were never nice to me they actually like were like this well this was okay their sister's a fucking porn star that's why they're all famous you would think that they would be nice 2009 i was at joe francis's house and i remember like oh they're always at his house they were always in his house and rob kardashian was talking to me and courtney

was like don't talk to her she's a porn star get away from her you know but it was a long you know people change a lot and the people's opinions but their whole their whole thing was based off kim making a sex i know i mean she was like because i had my radio show and i love him i think him as a boss she was always at vivid like doing her negotiations with them and the first tape they sent in they had to reshoot it because they would put more professionally because the lighting was not good you know and so the the tape that kim dropped wasn't the original one and that's the rumor vivid hey little bombs are getting dropped i love that i was told that yeah um and then also because the girl let's see jamie foxworth who's she was from family matters she was my roommate on celebrity rehab and we were like kind of best friends and she had dated ray j right before kim and she was

actually telling me that before i heard it ativid yeah she was like oh yeah they planned it like she was like this is all planned this is you know well I'm sure listen the devil works hard but Kris Jenner works harder so um what was it like doing celebrity rehab Dr. Drew is a fucking stud it saved my life probably suck him off I thought I mean when I showed up there I did flirt with them I think I don't remember Because I got I knew I was going in there I mean number one I was always in a blackout So you just said

It saved your life It saved my life Because so in 2000 So I moved to LA My grandma had died in 2003 My mom though So I never fully knew What was wrong with my mom

Like oh yeah She's schizophrenic She's mentally handicapped I never knew My grandparents never Explained it to me Yeah nobody talked about Mental health

When we were young That's what I'm trying To teach our daughter now Is like it's okay To talk about mental health if you're not feeling good today that's okay say that like we want you to talk about your mental health i talk about everyone i'm always i because i forget that it's not normal to talk like i'll be like openly to anyone like oh yeah my psychiatrist told me to do this you know but like but that's just real and that's how it is exactly i didn't know no one told me about my mom. I mean, I knew she had been through electric shock therapy.

I knew all that stuff, but I didn't, I didn't know. Did anything ever help her or no? Her medication, this one pill. It's so crazy. It's Zyprexa, it's called. And in 2006, you know, I was living in LA and I was in a really bad period. I'd just broken up with this guy that like, I ended up like, oh my God, I found out when he was traveling with me, feature dancing.

I was like wondering why my tips had gone down oh my god I really thought I made like five or six hundred because he was collecting my money pocketing it so my final straw was like I and he had been physically abusive to me like once a I was like once a month if he got drunk I knew and he would be like how'd it happen how'd you get that I was like I know you did it but like I was so fucked up on Xanax and alcohol that I could never fully remember and then my final straw was yeah it was bad and then oh he put me a bad I'm still working the bad loan for my condo I didn't even know how bad it was till finally like we got this loan I'm in but um he my final straw was feature dancing and I couldn't find him he kept disappearing

and then like afterwards he's like let's go to this customer's room he says he's got a bunch of blow and girls are going i'm like are you kidding i'm not gonna hang out with the customer afterwards yeah so i ended up there and i couldn't find him he's off doing drugs so i found one of the strippers that was like look i will give you like 100 bucks drive me to my hotel she's like okay or maybe 50 and we get there and i start going through stuff and i find like a couple thousand cash because i just done back-to-back bookings and i didn't know where he was so then i go to her look I will give you like 500 dollars we were in Long Island but my flight was out of JFK the next time like yeah I will like you know I will fly you to LA with me even I just need you to drive me because of course I couldn't be alone I'm like

I'm gonna buy you first class tickets to LA she's like oh my god this is some Oprah shit she was like when she got on the plane with me I remember well that's the thing I was drunk too and I remember I like called my friend like it's all, I told him, breaking up with Harold. I need you to come get me. I got this girl. What are you going to do with this girl? Harold. His name was Harold.

Harold. I love that. So let's get back to the doctor.