Dumb Blonde - Matt Mathews: The Hustle Behind The Humor

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Bunnie Xo sits down with comedian and boudoir photographer Matt Mathews for a candid and often hilarious conversation about friendship, authenticity, and life in the spotlight. The two bond over their shared quirks—like avoiding pubic hair and red carpets—while digging into deeper topics of mental health, addiction awareness, and the challenges of staying true to yourself in a social media-driven world.Matt opens up about his journey from a difficult childhood in Bessemer, Alabama, to becoming a viral TikTok sensation, selling out comedy shows, and building a career that blends laughter with raw honesty. He shares the struggles of loneliness behind the success, the balancing act between public persona and private life, and the importance of showing kindness to fans.The conversation also highlights a pivotal moment with Jewel that inspired Matt to pursue music, sparking a collaboration and a new sense of confidence in his voice. While he admits promoting his music without falling into cringey social media trends is a challenge, Matt stays grounded, humble, and focused on blending his comedy with music in a way that feels authentic.At its core, this episode is about resilience, the power of storytelling, and finding clarity in fame—all wrapped up with laughter and plenty of unfiltered honesty.Matt Mathews: WebsiteWatch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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you need to do this. And I'm like, who is Matt? So I go over to your page. And I'm, I, it was, we had two different reactions. When I saw you, I was like, oh my God, I'm going to love this man. Like, he's fucking amazing. He's out there talking shit. He's in a robe. He's fucking busting his husband's balls. Like, I fucking love this man. And then you had a different reaction. What was it? I thought you was going to be a twat. Like, I was like, I'm not going to like her. She is this, pretty like beautiful. I thought she is damn sure going to be a bitch. And then it goes to show

you that you can't judge somebody, you know? And as soon as we, as soon as we connected and we started talking, like it was just like immediate friendship. Yeah, for sure. And it just, we just hit it off. Well, and Kale loves you. Kale Lowry from Teen Mom. You guys know I had Kale on a few years ago. Love Kale.

And if Kale loves you, I love you too because Kale's kind of just like me. We're just like, take it or leave it. This is who we are. And when I saw that you guys, had, you know, had your, you know, little moments together online, too. I was like, okay, he's cool people. Yeah. Kail's one of my besties. She's a, she's a ride or die, and she's also a twat.

So I'm like, you know, it's, it really, it really was all just kind of full circle. She was like, oh, you're going to love Bunny. And I was like, okay, if you say I'll like her, I'll like her. And then I like, we met and I fell in love. And I was like, she's truly the kindest person. And like, that's hard to find. I love it. You're very sweet.

I also fell in love with you When I heard that you hate Bush I was like Fucking thank God Like there's like this trend Right now where everybody fucking wants to grow out their bush And why do we think that's hot

Thigh to thigh It looks like fucking Jiffy Pop I'm gonna throw up I can't who wants to dive in that I don't want to floss my teeth When I'm trying to suck on a tally wacker Okay I don't want to look for the snake in the grass No hell no

know. You know what I'm saying? I won't do it. And it's not, it ain't sanitary. You know, it's not, it's like B.O. If, if I'm trying, you know, to service the Lord's work down there, you know, I don't want, if there's a scent, I'm done. No, you can't do it. You can't do it. It's over for me. Nope. So as soon as I heard you didn't like Bush, I was like, this is my fucking partner. Like, this is it. This seals the deal because I can't do Bush either. I think what sealed the deal for me is when we were talking about going to award shows and we were talking about like red carpets and all that and we were like we would just be in the corner

just like this is not it because it's too much people in from me ask my team I fucking and I talk about it on the podcast all the time I fucking hate red carpets they one the cameramen are just love you guys love our photographers they just don't know your angles

oh no I'll have 45 fucking chins oh dude there's one time I look like slimer straight up slime i looked like fucking slimer i was like yeah like i don't know how they caught me like from the side they do you dirty bro and they really and they use the picture in every fucking magazine i'm like can we not use the one with the five chins like what are we doing here that they're hot there was one award show that we went to what was it at wait i thought you meant the cameraman i said i ain't never seen a hot one let me know which

wars you was going to because the ones that i'd be going to they're not hot no no no no not the I can't remember, but the award shows. Like, we went to one in Texas. It was in the fucking summertime. ACMs this year? It wasn't this year. It was last year or two years ago. Oh, I was having a heat stroke this year.

My whole titty's about, about slap the hell sweat it off. Try wearing a dress. Your thighs are just fucking just moist. Everything from down under is moist. It's terrible. And they had us in like a tent that had no ACN. Oh, hell no. Like, it was so bad.

So, yeah. The award show. I don't like them. I can't. I just can't. Too many people, too much energy. And they yell at you. I'm like,

yell at me one more fucking time because I'm going to throw something at you. And I hate feeling like, I hate, you know, having to walk around. This sounds fucking first world problems. God damn.

Like, I mean, just having to like sit around and wait to do an interview. Right. Or like sit around and I'm just like, can wait? It's the old hurry up and wait.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sorry. It's, I go to support my husband. and I'm thankful to even be there because I would have no reason to be there without my husband

but still it's a lot it's a lot to take on which is why I don't really I try not to go to him and I tell my husband like this year I'm like do we have to go to every friend and then you're sitting and like you feel like a sardine

in those seats and you're squished it's like you know just it's like church turn to the person and say hi and tell them that you love him today and you know it's like you have to turn to everybody and say hi and it's just like it's a whole big hull of life I feel like

I feel like we should do we should from now on the red carpets I feel like we should just we'll do our walks and then we'll just have to have each other for moral support and be like I'm totally down fuck this shit

let's do it we can do the interviews together too oh I hate the interviews because I'm so bad with like right on the spot like when they ask you questions and then it's like I want to cuss and I'm on air and it's just like yeah no it's a whole nightmare so we'll just hold each other's hands

and do the interviews together I can't wait you want to do some rapid fire questions with me to start this interview off. Okay, don't think too much. Just I want what comes to your head. Okay. Which farm animal has seen you naked the most? Oh, the horses. Do tell. Yeah. Well, so I, my horses, my barn is right beneath my house. Okay. So, like, I can walk down into the barn from my kitchen. Yeah. So, and y'all know I wear a robe every, like, that's what I wear. And people really think that I'm being cute, like, oh, he's just wearing that for, for views. No, bitch. I don't like clothes. Right. Okay.

So I sleep naked. So when I wake up, I throw on a robe. And nine times out of ten, like, I am getting up at 6 a.m. to go put horses up before it gets hot and feed them and do all that. So I'm doing all that before I ever have my coffee. So, like, that's the first thing that I'm doing. So a lot of times I'll just be walking down there just being like, baby, when that thing gets a thing. You know, just.

Have they ever looked at you sideways? Oh, they look at me sideways every day. They're like, here comes this bitch again. Just judgmental. Yeah, they are. What's the biggest lie you've told without getting? caught. Biggest lie I've told without getting caught.

I don't know because my problem is I don't lie. I'm too honest. Too honest. So I get in trouble for that. Biggest lie I've told. You can pass if you need to. Yeah, I really don't know. I really don't know.

Straight men that are married. They come to my shows with their wives. Yeah. And then they'll DM me after the show like, you want to come? come over. No, bitch. I don't, or they'll send me pictures of their pecker. By themselves or like with their wives? Both. Really? I'm like, first of all, you think I'm about to fuck you, absolutely not. Yeah. Okay. Second of all, what if it was somebody really hot though? I mean, okay. Are you and your husband open? No. So, okay, but here's the, here's the teed on that, though. Okay. So I wasn't a

thruple at one point. It didn't last very long. I'd never done that before. I've done a You have done it before? Yes, I have. Did it, well, obviously it didn't work. But it was, it was, it was very weird to me. So my husband is very much not, not jealous. Like he's like, he's like, if you wanted to go fuck somebody, you could. Like, he doesn't care. Okay. I cannot think like that. Yeah. I think more like a girl. Right. My husband's very much a straight man. Yeah. Like he just likes tallywacker, you know. So I just, like, he says tallywacker. I think of a jar of pickles. I'm like, I don't know why I say that. I love, I say tallywacker. So I love, when I think of it, though, I just think of like a jar of pickles.

So it's very strange to me how he can think that way and not, I mean, like, truly he could be like, you're on tour, a hot guy messages you, okay, that's how my husband is. And it took me the longest time because I'm like, you, for the longest time, I got so offended. And I was like, why are you not jealous? Why are you not fighting for me? But then I realize that that's not what love is. Love is freedom, you know? And like, yes, okay, if a man tells you to go sleep with somebody else, nobody wants to fucking hear that from their significant other. So I think that they could have other ways of saying it.

But I also think that maybe that's their way of not getting hurt too. Well, I think for him was, we had a deep conversation about it. I was like, how are you okay with that? And he said, we've been together for 11 years. He said, I know how much you adore me. I know how much you love me. I know how much I love you. He was like, and I know that you are never going to go sleep with you.

somebody and not come home. And I'm like, well, number one, I've never done it. Like, because I just can't, not that I don't like a little, you know, a little teleworker every once in a while, but like, to me, I'm like, nobody's going to do it as good as he does. He's had 10 years of practice, you know? But it is, it's very weird to me. So he would absolutely be okay with it if I wanted to. Yeah.

But then again, it's like, how am I going to go do that? And then somebody not post all over the internet that they fucked to Matt Matthews. Exactly. And that's what I've told my husband, too. I'm like, how am I supposed to just find, which I don't go sleep with random men either because, one, I have OCD and two, I just, people's energy freaks me out. And it's like, I don't want your energy inside of me. I don't know you. I don't, you know, like, it's not possible. But I mean. Have you guys ever had three sums? No, and he wants to. He wants two so bad, but I'm like, I'm terrified because I will spiral. What, like, what if they're hotter than me? No, you're so handsome. Then, or like, what if they're not hotter than me? Then, like, bitch, what am I?

You know, like, I'm so, I'm like, this is not Build a Bear, bitch. Like, what are we doing? You know, so I'm very, he would love it and like, he would be all about, again, very typical man, very typical man. And I am just like, so that's kind of how the whole, like, Thruple thing started. One more question. Who's messier? You, your husband, or the goats?

The goats. The goats? They fucking stink. Oh, my God. Y'all don't have goats, right? I refuse. Don't do it. I refuse.

It's a trap. A billy gut will piss in his beard to attract the females. How does he reach? You ain't never seen one of them things? No. Girl, they like this long. No. And I got to, I got, they suck their own tallywackers.

Oh, God. And then he pisses in his beard and he stinks. Oh, it's just, it's, I love about throw up. What's wrong with that dude? It's, it's atrocious. That sounds like my bull. My bull was getting really horrible. horny and he was like fucking chairs. Like it was crazy. Oh no. We can't know. He tried to mount a chair

last night while I was on it. And then I woke up this morning and he fucking took all my chairs and just threw them everywhere. Like he had a fucking night last night. See? It's crazy how farm animals have personalities. They're wild. No, they are, wow. But they're like little souls that really are like, they're like fucking just little humans like that can't speak. It's crazy. It's wild. moving on you talk very openly about your childhood and you actually wrote a book in 2019 a memoir called Uncovered the Naked Truth of Life, Love, and Addiction. Damn, you do your homework before these. That's right, baby.

That's what I'm here for. And, you know, we talked a little bit about your sisters and I think, I believe your brother in the beginning of the podcast. And, you know, can you take me on that journey of growing up and in a family with addiction and just how you made it through that? Yeah, you know, I think every family has their demons and their battles. And mine was, I grew up in government housing with an alcoholic mom. And we lived in the projects of Bessemer, Alabama.

And I always tell people, I'm like, if you have never heard of Bessemer, all you got to do is watch the first 48 because we're on every episode. Literally, Alabama is, so not to cut you off, but I'm from Vegas. And I grew up on the east side of Vegas, which is pretty ghetto. Our ghettos on the West Coast do not come close to comparing to the ghettos that are in the country. It is a whole different vibe. And Bessemer is, Bessmer was actually voted number one crime rate of city in the country. So like it's a really bad, bad area.

And, but to me, I mean, like, that's my home. You know what I mean? I don't give you. Yeah, I ain't scared. You know, I walk around Bessman, like, that's big Bessmer. It don't, it don't bother me. But I lived in government housing with my mom. and I was the only white gay kid in the neighborhood, you know, so life was...

Did you always know that you were gay? Oh, yeah. I wanted to fuck Uncle Jesse in the fourth grade, you know, like, from full house, ooh, baby. John Stamos was fucking fine, though. He's still fine. Yeah. I would fuck the dust off that old man. I'm telling you.

He's like 4-11, isn't he? Don't tell me that. No, he's like so... No. No! You just broke my heart. Somebody Google that. Give it a goof.

He can't be 4-11. No, listen, Google Lire. though, but he's definitely 5'2. I'm not lying. No, he's not. He's got to be. No, he's not.

No, he's not. I just almost took a little bit. He is not. I have wanted to fuck him for 25 years. Search more. He is not six foot. Okay, I'm friends with John. Do you know Josh Peck from Drake and Josh?

No, I don't. Do we know Josh Peck? Okay. Okay, so Josh, Josh Peck, I'm friends with him, and he did a, him and John did a show together. Yeah. And should we call Josh and ask him how tall he is? I was about to call Josh and be like, can you? Call Josh right now and ask him how tall John is.

Because I'm willing, yeah, we're calling in a lifeline because I have heard from other people who have met him that he is very short. I don't know if he's going to answer or not, but we're going to call him. He does wear lifts. I heard he wears lifts. Stop. Rebecca Romaine Stamos is the one that said that. Hi. This is the most random question for you ever.

I'm in the middle of filming a podcast with Bunny. And we, I was talking about, I wanted to fuck John Stamos when I was in the fourth grade. And she said that he's 4-11. Is he really that short? No, no. He's properly tall, like six feet. See? Properly tall.

Wow, that's what we needed to know. Thank you, Josh. I love you. Thank you, Josh. I hope it happens between you and John. I can help. You're so good to me. Bye.

That's crazy because Rebecca Remain Stamos, I thought, went on like this whole spree when they got a divorce talking about how short he was and how he wears lips. He's properly six foot tall. There you go. How tall are you? 5.11. There you go. Just like, I like him just a smidge taller. Actually, I like him six foot five.

You know, I want to be able to climb him like a tree. How old, or how tall is your husband? Six foot. Is he six foot? Yeah. Yeah. Would he, would you guys be willing to bring John? on Stamos and as a third.

Absolutely. John? John? We need to make this happen. I'm here, baby. So you knew ever since that you were a little boy that you loved men. That's the thing too. Like I've never been attracted to a woman.

Like never sexually in my whole life. Like even as a young, young kid. Like I've never been. And I tell people all the time when they're like, oh, when did you decide to be gay? Or when did you know that it was a choice? And I'm like, it's not a choice. And people don't understand that. And I say to that, I'm like, a straight person.

When did you choose to be straight? And they're like, I didn't. I just was. And I was like, exactly. So if you didn't choose to be straight, what makes you think that I had the fucking great decision to choose my sexuality? That's why I always say, when did you know?

Right. And so I knew very young, like, never once have I ever been attracted to a woman. Like, I can, obviously, like, I think you're stunning. You know what I mean? And I can think that a woman's beautiful, but I'm not sexually attracted to them. Yeah, absolutely.

And so I've always, even as a very, young kid. I've always been, and my sister's a lesbian. So like, clearly, you know, like the shit is there. It's in the DNA. Yeah, for sure. And so my mom was an alcoholic. You know, she really struggled with alcoholism. That was her drug of choice and prescription drugs. Like, that was, that was her vice. My brother and sister were both addicts as well. I didn't really have a great relationship with my brother growing up. We never really got along. I remember as a young kid. Like he would, he was the type that he was always very hard into drugs. What's the age difference between 11 years? So they're twins. Oh, wow. Okay. So, uh, they're 11

years older than me. And like, I remember as a kid, I would get like a bicycle or something for Christmas and he would take it and pawn it for drug money. And it's, it's really weird because I was very close to my sister. I adored her. I thought she walked on water. Like, I mean, I, I remember I would go stay with my grandmother in South Carolina for the summer, and I wouldn't leave the house because I thought my sister was going to call. You know what I mean? Like I was so, we were, we were like this. Was she kind of like your mother figure? I mean, kind of, yeah. Like, we were very, very close. I would go stay with her all the time. I mean, we were just, we were very, very close. And then as I got older, I saw her addiction as well. She was better at hiding it.

Right. And I saw what, now our, our, our, I call her my birth mother. So our birth mom died in 2007 to her addiction. My dad has been a car salesman for 30 years. So he didn't get custody of me until I was nine years old. So dad was never in the picture. Not when I lived. I mean, he was. I would seem on the weekends. But my mom had custody of me and I lived with her until I was nine. Okay. And then my, as I got older, I saw the addiction with my sister. And I saw, I was like, I can't, you know, like I can't be a part of it. So I had to cut both of them off. I haven't had contact with them in years. My birth mom died in 2007 from, now she did get sober from alcohol. She went to AA the last year of her life. And she got sober from that, but she was still

abusing prescription drugs. And she mixed two drugs that weren't supposed to be mixed together and died in her sleep in 2007. And then my dad got custody of, my dad had already had custody of me at this point. I was, he got custody when I was nine. And then he remarried. So he remarried the woman that I called mom. So, like, this woman was absolutely everything to me. She, like, you know, she raised me from nine on. She had horses. So that's where I've always been obsessed with horses.

But I never had the opportunity to have horses or ride horses or anything like that. And so she had horses. And I thought she was everything, you know. So she taught me how to ride horses. And she was a CRNA. So she put people to sleep for surgery. So she was really smart. And, like, her family, like, embraced me.

And they became my, because I didn't have much of a family. Um, and they embraced me and they became my family and they loved me. Um, and then, you know, I just, I still didn't have any real relationship with my brother and sister after that. Um, and then she passed away in 2015. So I lost my biological mom and then I lost her in 2015. So that really kind of, you know, just kind of showed me like the things that in life that are really important, right? So it really kind of, it gave me a great relationship with my dad. We didn't have a great relationship growing up. We fought a lot. We didn't see eye to eye. I moved from government housing with an alcoholic mom to a trailer park with a Marine dad. And I thought that life was going

to be so much better. Maybe it wasn't no better. It was worse. It was worse. That's very traumatic too, because you're going from one, you know, one extreme, one fire into another. And that's, Marines are very known to be very abusive. Yeah. And, and he wasn't, he was never, physically abusive as he was more verbally abusive. And it wasn't that he was really verbally abusive. He just had no patience. So like he would just yell at me or like, you know, it was just very like we just never got along. So we spent most of our time apart. I remember when he and my mom, my mom and him split before she, she moved to Tennessee and got remarried and before she, and that's when she passed away. But I remember in high school, um, when they split.

they split when I was probably 16. And so, you know, she had moved to her own place and I was still in high school and I still lived with him. And he, I think he's a lot of the reason why I am the way that I am today and successful because he would say, here's $100. This is for your grocery money this week. And he would go to the bars and he would, you know, hang out. He would go to his girlfriend's house and spend the night with his girlfriend. So I'm 16 years old living on my own figure it out in this house and um at the time i hated him you know but now i look back and i'm like i'm thankful for how he raised me that way because now i'm i'm good with money yeah and i'm able to you know be i'm able to stand on my own two feet because of how he raised me and i'm very open that

we didn't have a good relationship growing up and we fought and we butted heads and it wasn't good but now he's my best friend you know and it was it was really when i came out and i was you know i was you know I came out when I was 19. Bitch, come on now. Yeah. You know, like, you knew. Yeah. You knew when I was playing with Little Mermaid Barbie dolls.

Like, you knew that I was. Were you scared to come out to him? Yeah, I was terrified because I was terrified because I thought that he was going to write me off. And I didn't have any family. You know, like, he was really the only family that I had. Like, besides, you know, I did have my mom's family. Did your sister know that you were gay? Yeah.

My sister always knew, you know, because she was a lesbian, too. You know, she was looking on carpet. So she knew, like, hopefully. Not Bush. Yeah, probably to Bush. But, I mean, she always knew. Like, she never really said anything or made a big deal out of it. And it's funny because now my aunt is the one that she kind of came out for me.

She's my mom, not my biological mom, my mom's sister. Right. She became my best friend, you know, like. I love chosen family. She, yes. Because I have chosen family. Yeah. And she became my best friend.

And I remember I was laying in the bed with her one night and she was on the phone with my mom. And she was like, we got to find Matt a boyfriend. I was like, what? She was like, we got to find Matt a boyfriend. And I was like, what's you talk about? And I would tell her like, I'd be, and I was like, I got a date. And she was like, is it with a girl or is it with a boy? And I'm like, bitch, much of business, you know?

But how amazing to feel seen in that moment? Absolutely. And they were very much like, you are who you are, you love who you love, you got to be who you got to be. So they were such a, such a, like, strong, like, solid ground and foundation for me because they allowed me to be who I was. Did anybody at school know? Were you out at school? I never really came out at school.

Obviously, people knew I was gay. Like, it's not the biggest secret in the world. Like, I always say, like, I'm not the, like, the most flamboyant, like, I don't wear makeup or, like, shopping and, you know, something like, I'm not that gay. But obviously, you can tell that I'm gay. You know, like, there's, there's, there's levels of gayness, right? You know, I don't get my nails done. Like, I live on a farm and, you know, but, you know, there's definitely, you, my husband

is the type of man, you wouldn't know he's gay if you met him. Right. Like, you would never know. Yeah. Me, you're like, oh, he's gay as hell. Yeah, yeah. So, I was definitely picked on in school not because people knew I was, not because I was openly out because I was so terrified of that, but because people knew.

So, like, people would ask, they would call me, they would call me, they would me faggid or like you know whatever they would like the jocks like if i ever went to a football game they would like i remember one night i was at a football game and one of the guys like threw a through a football at me and like i had caught it and he was like he came up to and he's like so hey are you gay you know and they would do stuff like that the thing about me was i grew up in the projects you know so and i was the only white gay they white gay kid there so like you had to stand up for yourself you know i always tell people like you couldn't live in the projects and be this fabulous without knowing how to swing on a hoe. I was going to say, can you throw

a pause? Yeah. So I can, I can hold my own. You know, like, I'll bust a bitch when I need to. And so I never let people walk all over me. Like, you might try to pick on me, but you weren't going to lay your hands on me because I'd scrub up a ground with your ass. And so I never was, like, beat up or putting lockers because I would clown on you and I would, like, cut you out. Did you always have your sassy sense of humor ever since childhood? I always used to get put out of class in school because of my mouth. And it's so funny to me because I'm like, now I get paid for it. Yeah.

I'm sorry. I got something stuck on my foot over here. My whole life's falling apart over here. So you were pretty much like the class clown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know.

But it's because you came from such a dark beginning that if you don't learn to laugh and have some sort of fucking humor, you're going, it's going to eat you a life. It's going to swallow you. And I think that is the best comedians out there are the ones that come from trauma, you know. And I tell people all the time that, you know, I realize, the reason that I'm successful is because I saw my mom and I saw, I remember one night we lived, like I said, we lived in the projects and we were laying in bed one night and I just heard people arguing like we had one bedroom apartment so we slept in the same room and like outside of our window was right out to like the staircase that went down to the next level and I heard these people fighting outside and it was two guys and a girl and they were fighting and then they started shooting each other and my mom opened the window and she puts her head out the window and she's like I got a baby trying to sleep in here my mama was a thug like I mean long red fingernails wore gold rings on every finger gold chain necklaces and she would

fight she beat up my fourth grade teacher in a parent teacher conference over what over what because uh my I was pretending to smoke a cigarette with a chito and um I didn't want to get in trouble so I lied to my mom I was like I didn't do that so my mom like believed everything I told her And my mom, I still have the planner I just posted a YouTube video of it where her and my mom are like arguing back and forth in my planner. And my mom's like, Matt did not pretend to smoke a cigarette with a Cheeto

and did not deserve to be put on red because I got put on red that day. And my teacher wrote back and she was like, yes he did, he admitted it, blah, blah, blah, blah. She was like, I want to have a parent teacher conference. And my mom's like, that's fine, bet, you know? So we get to the conference and I'm in the back of the room crying

and my mom's there with a white wife-beater tank top her fake Louis Vuitton purse like all of her gold rings her nails and she went to say something and my teacher put her finger in her face and she was like now I see where Matt gets his disrespect

from and my mom stood up and she put her purse on the ground and she grabbed her by the back of her head and she pulled her out of the over the chair and she starts beating the shit out of her and that I mean my mom would fight like she would fight anybody yeah and this before people called the cops on people

I mean she did go to jail But, and then she beat the shit out of a Walmart greet her one time because the lady asked to see the receipt for the rug that she just stole. I mean, it was just like... I kind of love moms. She was crazy as hell. And it's funny because growing up, I hated her because of just her addiction. Right.

And now, as I look back at her, I'm like, man, she loved me so fiercely. She did. She just had so many demons and she didn't have anybody to help her. You know, she didn't know how to battle those demons and how to succeed and win. yeah um but now i look back and i'm like man she did the best she knew how you know and she loved me so much but she just didn't she didn't know she didn't know how to how to be a mom really you know and that that's what ultimately you know her addiction is her addiction won but and that's why i'm so so like open about mental health and addiction because people don't

realize how how strong that that has on that stronghold that it has on people it's it's such a thing that it's swept under the rug And had she had help, had she had somebody to, you know, walk her through her trauma, her trauma. And she had a lot of trauma. So it's like she didn't have good relationships with her parents. And so it's like had she had someone to help her, things could have been totally different for her. Yeah. Isn't it crazy as we get older that we can see our parents through that lens? Because I grew up hating my entire family so much that I got to spend the last years of each one of my parents' life. I left home at 14 and I got to forgive them for the childhood that I had and then when I saw just how sad and unhealed they were it was almost like I was like it like freed up my heart yeah because I was just like you know what you can't be angry anymore yeah it's like you you become their parent in a way and you're just kind of like man you know like this you were put here on this earth to teach me this lesson and to be able to look at it through the lens that you're looking at it

is super beautiful. Well, and the crazy thing to me is I don't regret a single minute of it. Because maybe if I had a cook or cuttie lock, cooker cut, damn, I just had a stroke. Cooker cutter lock, God damn. What is, am I on, am I slow? If I had a cookie cutter life, I probably wouldn't be the person I am. You know, I probably wouldn't be successful. Like I would probably be just like my sister.

siblings. Yeah. That's how I feel too because my little sister got to live and I very rarely talk about my little sister because I still try to protect her, but she got to live the childhood that I never got with both parents together going to prom, my dad taking her to prom, never having chores and like being abused the way I was and she's a mess. She's a drug addict. She's just she's not okay. I think when you see what it can do to a person and what it can, how it can ruin their lives and take everything from them, you know, that was my thing was I made a promise to myself the night that my mom stuck her head out that window and yelled at the people shooting each other. I literally, I thought this is the night that we're going to die. I thought

that. And I remember thinking, I will not be like the rest of my family. I will not have this for myself. I will never live like this. And I promised myself that if I ever have to ask somebody for money, if I ever have to ask somebody for anything, I don't want it. And hyper independence is a It's a trauma response. Yeah. And now another trauma response that we've been talking about is so there's a, there's actually a something, I don't know the name, bitch, I can't even say cookie, but, um, but there is a, it's a trauma response of so scared of being poor again. You know, like, and that is something that I struggle with every day is now I make good money. I make a good living. I work my ass off and I'm so terrified of being poor again because of that trauma. Yeah. No, it's, I don't know what it's called either, but I, You and I have bonded over that is I feel the same exact way. Like I will stuff fucking, I took my husband literally fucking was like, bitch, you need to get an accountant. Like you need a bookkeeper.

It took me so long to let somebody into my money because I was just like, you know, just held it so close to my chest. And being in this business, you have to have somebody that's managing your fucking money because you can't do it yourself. I got in so much trouble because I would have all of the money that I made in my bank account. Me too. Like, I mean, I'd have all of that money in one account. And when I hired my business manager, he was like, what the fuck are you doing?

Same. And they put it in like five different accounts. Yeah. And he's like, you do realize that the bank can only guarantee you like $275,000. And I'm like, what about all this money? He's like, you're fucked if something happened to the bank. I'm like, oh. Yep. You know, like, I didn't know that. They don't teach you that. They don't teach you that in school. They should teach you that. And I feel like they should teach you a credit class. They should teach you a fucking, like, home fucking like he's over here saw on logs dude they should teach you like how to like run your business in school you should have to go to college and take a little nothing in school yeah

me either me either like I mean I learned division yeah multiplication that I don't use for anything we don't use it is absolutely insane to me that I'm like what was even the point yeah no for sure moving on real quick though I want to talk to you it says that you started nursing school before We're trading your scrubs for a camera, and you bought that camera with your graduation money. Yeah. Take me on that journey because you ended up building an empire doing something that is very unlikely. I did not see this coming. Yeah, you didn't know that.

We didn't talk about that. Yeah, I did not see this coming. Yeah. So I, when I was 17, I got a job at Walmart Portrait Studios. I co-opped in school, which means I got to leave school early to go to work. So I had to have a job. And I applied at Walmart Portrait Studios, you know, like clicking a little thing and taking pictures to people, like Sears.

How fun, though. As a 17-year-old, making $8.50 an hour, like, they close at 6 o'clock. You don't have to work Sundays. Like, I was like, this is everything. Because all my friends were waiting tables. That's a moment in time, too, because they don't do that. They don't do it anymore. Yeah.

And so I started to do that. And again, I told you my mom, not my biological mom, but my mom was a nurse anesthetist. So she put people to sleep for surgeries. So I saw how successful she was. And I saw, like, the life that she had. And I was like, that's what I'm going to do. I always wanted to be an interesting. entertainer. But I never, I always wanted to do music. I always wanted to entertain, but I never

pursued that. Because I didn't sing. Did you sing as a child? Yeah, yeah. So I always sang, I sang in the talent shows and like, I remember my dad used to take me to this redneck bar every Tuesday and I would sing karaoke. I love the bonding. Yeah, a bar. Yeah, that's my husband. His dad used to take him to bars. Yeah. So he would take me to a bar every Tuesday night and I would sing karaoke and it became like this thing and people would start people started to come to the bar on Tuesdays to hear me sing and i remember my little gay ass is up there singing martina mcbride you know broken wing that's a hard one yeah and and can you sing it i mean probably not now but i mean you know i'm gonna put you on a spot at that point i could sing you know like and i remember i went to a

talent show he said not now i mean i mean i still got a little chops but um i was just so terrified you know But, like, I didn't, I didn't know, like, I never took vocal lessons. I never, I was just singing, you know? You taught yourself, self-tapped. Yeah. And my dad took me every Tuesday, and it was just a thing. And we, we just loved it. And I would, I would sing those songs because that's what my mom listened to, you know?

And so, what was we talking about? We were talking about taking the pictures, too. Taking the pictures. So I got a job at Walmart, and I knew that I always wanted to do music or I wanted to do entertainment. and I was too scared to pursue that because I thought that was way too out of the possibilities of things that were going to happen for me that I'm not in an area where I'll ever

get to do anything in that space. But I've always been like this outlandish personality. I've always been goofy. I've always been musical. I taught myself how to play guitar. I taught myself how to play piano, like all of these things. And so I got that job and I just really enjoyed it.

And so when I graduated high school, I took all the graduation money and I went to Sam's Club and I bought a Canon Rebel, kit, like the kit lens, the cameras and everything. And I just started doing photography. And I didn't, I wasn't good at it at first, obviously, but I got really good. And I started doing weddings. And I was a wedding photographer for several years. And what's one of the craziest weddings that you've had, like a crazy wedding story? A mom and a bride guy in a fist fight during their getting ready

photos. And I was like, the actual mother. Yes. She was beating the shit out of her. We've, we've flying everywhere. I was like, oh shit, we'd be wondering to come through. I was like, this, this ain't it. And I was like, y'all can run me my check. Yeah. Because I don't get paid enough for this. So I remember, I was like, this is not for me. You know, like, I don't want to do this anymore.

I'm in the South. Every weekend, I'm in the heat, like dying of heat stroke. And I had a bride ask me to take pictures of her in lingerie. And I was like, bitch, I don't know how to do that. Like, are you, what? But I did. And they became like, the most. They were the most beautiful photos.

And I was like, okay. She was like, I feel so pretty. And I was like, oh, okay. And she got a big picture of one of the photos printed and put it in her bedroom. And I was like, okay. So I started doing boudoir photography. And I was, I did that and it started really blowing up and like really doing really, really well for me. And so I quit weddings.

Did it blow up from word of mouth or like, were you online? Yeah, this was well before I like got in. into, you know, TikTok or like, this is, this is like 2015 era, 2014, 2015. So my husband and I bought our first house, 2015, and it had this 300 square foot room on the back, and I made it a studio. And I started my boudoir business there. I had nothing but a bed, and I hung a chandelier over the bed, and I had a little white couch. Chandelier makes everything better.

Oh, everything. I will add a chandelier to every fucking room in my house if I can. Yep. And it just, I was, I never grew up loving my body. You know, I was always very self-conscious. I would swim with a shirt on, you know, like... You have a great figure. I was, but I was always a chunky kid, you know?

And even, even though I'm smaller now, like, you know, I still got, I ain't got no abs. Right? And, like, that's what I, you know, I never, never loved my body. I was very critical of myself. Didn't love what I saw in the mirror. And so I started photographing women and showing them how beautiful they were. And they were in lingerie and they were in sheets. And it was like kind of taboo at the time.

But it blew up. And people were like, I've never felt so beautiful. Like, you just showed me aside that I've never seen before. Is it true that you gave your mom a boudoir shoot? How fun was that? So in 2014 for her birthday, I was like, mom, she never loved her body. So I was like, let me photograph you. And I photographed a boudoir session for her.

And she was like, I've never felt so beautiful. And after that, it lit a fire in me. And I just, I just started doing boudoir. full time. I got really, really good. I started teaching workshops. I started speaking at conventions. And it just like blew up. It was absolutely insane. I want to see some of your words. Yeah, I'll show you. Yeah. Because I love boudoirs. That's how I got here. I was it. I was an Instagram thought. Okay. So you know what's so funny. I've seen like the photos of you. And I'm like when I was like, if I could have photographed her when I was a boudoir

photographer. Yeah. That would have been, dude, we would have made magic. We could do it. What if I came out of retirement? I'll come out of retirement to let you shoot me. What if we come out of retirement together? Let's fucking do it. Oh my God. Yeah. That would be, that would, we'd break the internet.

Dude, I'm ready. So that's what happened for me on TikTok was I started showing me photographing clients on TikTok. Okay. I posted a video and it got 17 million views. Yeah. And I was like, it was me like picking a client's hips up. And I was like, we did this pose called the Titty Crusher. Yeah.

And I'd have them lay completely flat. on the ground and then I would like have to help them walk their knees up underneath them and put their butt in the air. Oh yeah. I do that pose all the time. Yeah. And like stagger their feet. That's the Carmen Electra pose. Oh, did you see it? Yeah. Pull it up. Can we pull it up? Let's pull it up and see it really quick. And it got like 17 million views. Yeah. And it like went crazy. So was that your first viral video? Yeah, that was my very first viral video. That's your first taste of virality, right? Yeah. That's crazy. And I was booking so much, and I was making a ton of money.

I opened my first studio downtown. Like, it was insane. And it was incredible. You know, I mean, people were coming, other photographers were coming to learn from me. And it was just, it probably gave you such a purpose, though, because not only are you making these women feel beautiful, but you're also creating art and you're like, I don't know,

you're just like in charge. It's your business. Like, it's got to be so fulfilling. Absolutely. And I felt so good making people. feel so good. That was like the big thing to me. I remember I had a client come in and she had had a double mastectomy and I photographed her and like before her reconstruction and she was like, oh my God, like I'm beautiful. And I'm like, yeah, you are. You know, like seeing them come in being so

timid, not loving their body, not feeling comfortable and seeing them walk out with their head high was just like, oh man, it gives me chills to think about it. Because like I love that. I love that. that part of my life. Like I love that journey still. Would you ever like once all of this, you know, the touring and the music and all that comes to an end, would you ever like think of like maybe just redoing it and like your retirement years? We still have my boudoir business and my associate Brianna who's been with me for eight years. She still photographs clients. Oh wow. And it's still under my name. It's still my studio. And, you know, her work looks identical to mine. And so she still shoots. So like we still have that business. And,

And it's amazing. And I was like, we worked so hard to build that. I was like, just because I'm touring and doing all the things now, we're not letting that go. So it was, it was just really, it was a really cool thing. But deep down, there was something missing, you know? And I was like, I want to, I want to be on stage. You know, like, I wanted to sing.

But I still never pursued that. And what started to happen for me was TikTok started deleting my videos. because of the boudoir. They just did another fucking community upline update today. Oh, yeah, I saw. Yeah. I'm like. And they had started deleting everything that I was posting for community guidelines and

adult nudity, even though nobody was ever nude. And so I was like, I had built a following of like $2 million at that point. And I was like, I don't want to lose my account. You know, like, what do I do? So I quit posting. So from then, I pivoted. And I started doing how to take sexy selfies. So I'd be like, put your phone up, put it on a video.

video, and I would show them how to pose. And I'd be like, now screenshot that hoe and send it out, you know? And then that started blowing up. And everybody was like, oh, my God, your personality. And so then I was like, okay, well, they're going to delete everything I'm posting, so I'll pivoted to start showing my personal life, which was my farm. That's how we are as hustlers coming up from the backgrounds that we did, is like, you're always going to figure out a way. I'll figure it out. Yeah, absolutely. So I was like, okay, so where do we go now? So I was like, all right, So I'll pivot to farm. I'll start showing my farm and my ridiculous life of I'm out in this robe every day cussing these chickens out.

I'll start showing it to people. Was this during COVID? During COVID. Okay. Yeah. The first, and I remember like the first video got, I mean, it got like 13 million. 13 million views. And I gained over a half a million followers overnight.

And I was like, the fuck? The crazy thing is, is like, you had never hit my FYP until people started tagging you. And now your shit is all over my fucking FYP. Like, it is, I can't. scroll without seeing something from you or somebody tagging you in something or like it's it's crazy how much people just love you well they love you just as much well I appreciate well they love to hate me and they hate to love me well same I mean I think it's I think that's anybody that's in the industry you know like especially when somebody you don't know that somebody's somebody's successful

yeah absolutely if somebody has success people always want to shit on that yeah it's always the ones who I would never trade lives with yes bad things to say there's so much more love than never yes yeah um and it's just a really cool feeling and i i remember seeing comments of people saying you made me smile you made me laugh when i haven't laughed in weeks yeah you made me you brightened my day and then again same feeling of as boudoir i was like that made me feel good that i made somebody feel good and so everybody was like matt you have to do you have to do comedy you have to do comedy you have to be a comedian i'd never watched comedy i'd never you know never watched stand-up.

It was never something that I wanted to do. Like, I wanted to do music. Right. And, but I was like, I'm never going to pursue music. It's never going to be something that I do. Why did you think that you just couldn't do it? I just didn't think I was good enough. Right.

So I was like, this is the next best thing. Right. I'll be on stage. I'll be performing. And I'm doing something that's easy for me, which is making people laugh. Right. So I decided. Being a stand-up comedian is not easy.

Oh, but it is hoart. It is hoart. Like, it's fucking. You got to command a, I think that's harder than singing. Oh, 100%. You have to, like, really wow a crowd with your fucking humor. And if a fucking joke doesn't land, that's your neck. Yes.

But what's so funny to me is it's the easiest thing I've ever done. Aw. It is the, I mean, it is, I can get on a stage in front of thousands of people that I don't know and make them laugh. And for me, it's all about we all struggle with something. And to make somebody come into a room and to sit. it down in a room with thousands of people that you don't know and watch this ridiculous man on stage tell you stories and forget about the bullshit outside for 90 minutes of your day. That's what it's about for me. Yes. And so I decided to try a stand-up. And at this point,

I'd already had pretty decent following online and from my boudoir videos and from my farm chores. So I decided to give it a shot. And the very first show that I ever did is sold out in two minutes. Wow. And I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, I don't even know what I'm doing. I've never done this. I never opened. I was going to say you didn't practice. No, never opened mics. Never. I opened for two, the comedy club in my hometown. They were like, hey, let's have you come in. You can open up for two comics. I had five minutes for the first one. I had 10 minutes for the second one. That's all I'd ever done. Wow. And then I did my own show and sold it out. And I was like, what the fuck am I going to do? I didn't know. So I got out there and just started

running my mouth. And they didn't have anything planned. Nothing. Nothing. No. Wow. Because when I opened, it was horrible because I had like memorized this fucking Easter speech. Right. Like it wasn't good because I had like this monologue that I memorized. Right. And then I was like, fuck this. I'm just going to say whatever comes to my mind.

And I will never forget. Like I had a lady come, a lady like, this is the first time I'd ever done this, mind you. Yeah. I had a, and I'd never watched stand up. So I didn't really know what to do. But I remember this lady had this big, blonde hair. and it was like huge and she got up in the middle of show

went to the bathroom and I said Teresa Caputo where the fuck are you going and I just remember everybody like falling out of their chairs and I was like ooh I got them you know

and that's really kind of when like the crowdwork kind of was really flowing right I've seen your crowdwork it's fucking hilarious and the comedy club guy he was like you look like you've been doing this

for 20 years he was like we're going to give you another show in our big room it holds 420 people and it sold out in a minute. Wow. And I was like, what in the hell? So I started, I signed with an independent agent and I started my first tour, sold over

150,000 tickets on my very first tour, never doing stand-up. Wow. Which was insane to me. That's amazing. It was such a blessing. But that's a testament of who you are and how you make people feel. And that was the biggest thing. You know, like, and still to this day, I go read reviews because I'm like, I shouldn't,

you know, because I know not everybody's going to like me. We're all self-sacrificing in that way. We want to know what people are thinking. And it's not because I go do that or read those things because I want to see what people are saying negatively or they think that I'm the best out there. But it's, is there anything that I should work on? You know, is there something that I'm doing that people don't like? And I did that.

I signed with my first big agency and signed my first deal with Live Nation for my second tour. Then it just kept going. I just, you know, I just left my, my, uh, other agency and went to WME. I'm so happier with us. Welcome to WME, baby. I was so happy to see that announcement.

Yeah. Yeah, I was really excited for you. It's still crazy to me that I came from a trailer part. You know what I mean? And I think that's the coolest part. I literally brought my best friend and her mom here to live with me in Nashville that let me move into their trailer when I was 14 years old because I just love them so much. and they're my chosen family.

And now that I've made it, I want them to make it too. So it's like, I think when we get to a certain point of where we're at, now it's just about giving back. And that's what you're doing. And that's why it keeps coming back to you tenfold

because you're making people feel good. And even if you're calling somebody, Teresa Caputo, they're fucking laughing. You know, because it's fucking funny and it's feel good. And that's the thing too is like, I'm roasting the fuck out of these people at my shows.

Yeah. Right? But to me, it's weird, and I'm very offensive in my shows. You know, I say things that people normally aren't going to say. I make fun of special needs people. I make fun of regular people. I make fun of black people. I make fun of white people.

I make fun of gay people. I make fun of everybody because I feel like we're in such a dark world. And everybody's so offended about everything that if we can't laugh about it, then what do we do? We cry about it, you know? So I'm like, let's laugh about it and realize that we don't have to be so offended about everything and we can laugh about things and we can be united and we can realize that like it's not that deep when you're not laughing what is what's a bad day for matt

a bad day for me like how do you handle it because i know not everything's fucking roses and butterflies no no of course not i think this and again this i say this like i hate even saying it because i feel such like a little bitch saying this because I'm successful and I've made my dreams come true. That doesn't mean that you don't have feelings. But people would die to be in this spot, right? Of course. And the hardest part for me is being lonely.

You know what I mean? Because like I don't have a lot of friends. And people think, you know, I'm this big extrovert and I just like, I go, I'm the life of the party and I go and do all. And I'm not, you know, like, and I don't have a lot of friends. Like, I think that's the hardest thing for me is I will get really lonely. And there was a day that. I realized I was off tour

and I realized that my phone didn't ring all day unless it was an agent or a manager. Somebody needing something from me. And I was like, that really sucks. You know, like that was really hard. That was a hard pill for me to swallow. You know, my biological mom's dead. My mom's dead.

I have my husband, who's my best friend. You know, he really is my rock. You know, and like, we have the best relationship. I have a great relationship with my dad, but that's really all I have, you know. and I don't have, I mean, I have Kail and now I have you. You have me. Text me anytime I will always text back even if it's later.

And you and I have had this discussion of like, don't think I'm not showing up on a random day and we're having a fucking pajama party. But it's like Kale lives in Delaware. Yeah, which Kail, who the fuck lives in Delaware? Who the fuck lives in Delaware? Yeah, you know, like the two or three good, my best friend Fallon lives in Texas. You know, so it's like the two or three really close friends that I have aren't near me. Yeah.

So it's like, it's really, that part's lonely. Like the industry is lonely. Yeah, we're living our dreams. But it's hard to let people in because you don't trust people because they just want to use you. Absolutely. And a lot of people in our industry are assholes. So I think that's why I was so excited when we clicked because I was like, man, it's so nice to have somebody that you can talk to that's in this industry that understands how you feel. Yeah.

And, you know, that is, that is in the same that can understand the loneliness of it. Oh, absolutely. But it's also like, you don't want to, you don't want to bitch and sound ungrateful because you are, but at the same time. That doesn't mean that you're not human, you know, and just because you are successful. And I think that's where a lot of people on the internet are like, oh, you have all that, you have this fame, you have money. Everything's fucking great. More money, more fucking problems. Yeah.

Like people don't understand that. And me and my husband talk about it all the time. And it's like you literally get secluded on this little island of people's half the people you don't like, half the people you don't want to talk to. And you have like maybe a small percentage of people that you can be around. And that's, it's not a bad thing for you to feel lonely. But you don't ever have to feel lonely. You can always text me. But I had like it, I literally have my crew and that's it. Like I don't let anybody else in either because you can't fucking trust people. People aren't so untrustworthy. And the one time you do something wrong, they go straight to the fucking internet. Oh yeah. You know? clout chasers. Yeah. What's the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself?

Um, my husband and I divorced. That was an MSN article the other day was I was divorced Matt Matthews and husband divorced and I'm like, we literally just built a house.

Like, what are you talking about? I call those out. Anytime something like that gets posted. Oh, I posted it. I was like, are y'all on drugs? This is a lie.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. The craziest thing probably, is that I've made up my whole life, like that it's not real. Me too. People say that about me. I didn't live in a trailer park.

I didn't live in the project. My mom's not an alcoholic. Yeah. Like, I made all that up for just to give use. Literally, people tell me the same thing. I'm like, do you think that I'm going to tell people that I was a fucking hooker? I would have been a fucking doctor if I was going to make up my past, you know?

Like, the way that people like try to shame you for your upbringing is crazy. Like, it's just wild. The craziest thing to me is like the AI shit now. Oh, that shit's weird. That shit's so weird. People are like taking videos of me and people are getting scammed thousands of dollars. This lady came to my show the other day and she's sitting like third row and she's like, hey. And I'm like, hey, she goes, it's me.

And I'm like, it's you. There's a video on my Instagram. I was like, what? I was like, are you? Are you okay? And she's like, it's me. And I'm like. What the fuck are you talking about?

She had been talking to somebody this whole time and she thought she was talking to me because they're using AI videos and you can see like, it was actually a cameo that I had done for someone and they had used AI to change what I was saying. Oh my gosh. And I'm like, this is the craziest shit.

How is that legal? But first of all, how do people fall for this? Because it doesn't look real. No, it doesn't. People get scammed all the time from jelly and bunny accounts also. And I feel so bad for you. guys like if I, one, I will never ask you for money. Never.

Never. Never. Never. Ever. But please pay attention. Yeah. Because you can tell when shit's not fucking real. You know, like, I hate when I post something on Facebook and every single time somebody

comments, Matt Matthews private, Matt Matthews fan. I block them. I'm like, I block them too, but you can't. Like, there's so many. So many. I'm like, I could hire somebody full time to sit there in block accounts. I know. It is insane.

And now they have. these new accounts that are on Facebook that are like news outlets, but they're not really news outlets. Like they literally one had the fucking TikTok and her uproar saying that my husband said that he hates gay pride and all this other stuff. And it's like, my husband never said that. And people really believe this shit yesterday. They said that I was attacking Sydney Sweeney because of her jeans out or something like that. And I'm like, are you guys fucking morons? And there's like a thousand comments of. And they believe it. Oh yeah. We're not taking advice from a hooker. And like, didn't she used to sell her ass?

And I'm like, yeah, to your dad, Mike. You know, it's like, people do. And still made more money than you hope. Literally. And people just fucking stop. Just stop believing everything that you read on the fucking internet. It is absolutely insane to me. In the business that you're in, do you always feel like you have to be on?

Yeah. Yeah. Like, when I meet somebody, if somebody comes up to me in public for a picture or they stop me, like I feel like I, number one, I will never say, know. Yeah. And I will never be ugly to anybody because if it weren't for those people, I would not be here. Yeah.

So I'm so thankful for them. But at the same time, I know that they expect me to be farm chores or they expect me to be the comedian on stage. And I tell people, I'm like, I am, when I'm on stage, it's a part of who I am. Like, that is who I am. That really is me. But it's just a part of who I am. And I'm performing, you know?

Like, that is a performance. When I'm on that stage, I am performing. This is not a conference. You know what I mean? I'm not just reading a script. I am performing. And so when you meet me in the grocery store, I'm not going to be that ridiculous.

You know what I mean? So I do feel like I have to be on a lot. Yeah. And that is, that's, you know, nobody's ever going to say that I was rude to them. Right. But they may say like, oh, he wasn't the same in person. Right.

Because maybe I don't, you know, that's the big thing that people say about me on the internet is that I talk black. I try to talk black. And I'm like, I'm a southern gay man. And I'm gay as hell. And I was raising the projects and I did go to an all black church. I was the only, you know, but then they're like, oh, well, your accent changes.

Okay, well, I can talk like this or I can talk like this, you know. But it sounds the same to me. It's like, it's our customer service voice. Right. I tell people, if you don't have different voices from when you're hanging out with your best friends or when you're, you know, doing an interview. Yeah. Then you need to learn how to do an interview.

voice so that you can get a fucking job. Right. You know, like, so that's the, that's the crazy thing to me is I'm like, why would I act to be, why would I, you can only hold a false person or like this personality for so long.

Oh, I tell everybody. I'm like, listen, I love you. What you see on the internet is me in the comfort of my own home and my own studio. In person, I am shy, I'm quiet, I have anxiety. You're judging me. I know you are as soon as you walk up to me and ask for a picture. So I'm like, if I'm not who I am online,

just know that it's just I'm very more, I'm a lot more reserved in person. I just don't set people up for failure. I'm like, look, it's, you're going to be disappointed. Yeah. Don't expect much. You'll be disappointed.

What kills me is when they come up to me and they're like, get up. It's time to do farm chores. And I'm like, that is the cringiest thing to me. I'm like, please, or they'll be like, did you do farm chores today? I'm like, no, bitch, I'm off. Like, I'm at a comedy show.

What the fuck? Do you think, I'm in Seattle. Do you think I did farm shores? That is, that part makes me cringe because I'm just like, but I mean, it's like, I'm sure people will, I'm sure people will come up to you

and, you know, like, any kind of, any kind of, like, phrase. What do they say? What is it that they, oh, the Astell Confess. Because I do, what? Matt's face.

They whistle. So I do this thing where I'm like, I have another segment called Astell Confess. Okay. I've literally had Astell Confess since I had, my Instagram 10 years ago, but we just moved it to our platform about a year ago. And so the opening, I'm always like, welcome to Ask Tell Confam.

So I say that. So people, people come up to me all the time and that's what they do. I can't do it. Did I do it? Yeah. You did it. Hey. You did it.

Ashtel can fam. So, yeah, that's what they come up and say to me. Yeah. And it makes you cringe, don't it? I mean, I'm just like, I'm not doing it right now. Like, I'll do it whenever I have to film fucking five in a row. Yeah. Let's talk about your music because I know that Jewel actually had a really big impact on your music career, which you and I had this conversation.

And should I even tell the story or no? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. And listen, Jewel, you're a beautiful human. I have always looked up to you. This was just a moment in time. And I completely understand where.

She was coming from now that I live the life that I live. When I met Jewel, this was when the Palms was huge in Vegas. And I think I was like leaving fucking ghost bar or something. It was in the middle of the night, 2 o'clock in the morning. She is walking in the casino by herself. And I'm walking out of this club and I see Jewel. And then this is like when she was fucking huge and like I couldn't believe it. And I was just like, oh my God, Jewel.

And she was like, you know, like she had gotten caught. And I was just like, hey, can we take a picture? And she was like, rolled her eyes and goes, one picture right now, right here. And I was like, you know what? It's okay. And I ended up leaving her. And I left that encounter with her for the longest time for years. I was like, dude, Jewel was a bitch, you know?

But now that I'm in this lifestyle. You understand. Yeah. She could have been going through a fucking divorce in the middle of this fucking casino. She could have been on her period. She could have been fucking, there could have been a million things that were going. on. You know, granted, she could have been a little nicer. But when you told me your story about how much she helped you, I was like, oh, maybe she does have a heart, you know? Well, and that's

kind of why I said, I will never be ugly to a fan. Yeah. Now, I mean, let me never say never, because you might catch me on the right motherfucking time, you know, but I really try to never be ugly because they will remember that. They will remember that. Yeah. And people will come up to you and And you have to, like, suck it up. Okay, hi, how are you? You know? But they remember that for the rest of their life. You're not going to remember them, but they will remember you for the rest of their life.

Yes. And people won't remember times or situations, but they'll remember how they, you made them feel. Yeah. Yeah. And so that is, that's why I really try to always be kind. Because it costs zero dollars to be kind. Yeah. And I remember I grew up, I was obsessed with Jewel.

Yeah. Obsessed with her. I had the same too. is her like yeah i mean literally i was i grew up so just like i thought she was the best artist like i thought her music was just incredible i mean i loved her so much she really is a talented artist she's incredible yeah and um i remember she followed me on instagram and i don't fan girl over people you know we're people like it's we just have a career yeah that you see um but i don't so i don't fan girl over people. I don't like, you know what I mean? That to me is just like it is what it is.

I did fan girl over Anna Nicole. She was the only one that I fan girled over when I met her. Yeah. Well, Anna Nicole Smith was Anna Nicole Smith. But so I've never really fan girled over people. And I was laying in bed one night. And I was just scrolling and I looked at my Instagram and I saw Jewel blue check mark followed me. And I like fell out of the bed. I was screaming. My husband was like ram back. He was like, what's wrong? I was like, Joel followed me. Like, she came to my hometown and did a book signing and I went to the book signing by myself. Like, read her, I was always a fan. And I mean, never like, I'm not a crazy bitch. Like, I'm not stalking you that kind of fan, but I just always like really, really

looked up to her as an artist. And I was like, oh my God, she followed me. And I DM'd her. And I was like, I swear I don't fan girl over people, but I just fan girl so hard. I was like, you don't know how much this means to me. And she was like, oh, I'm such a fan. And I was like, what? So we just- I was like your hero telling you that she's a fan of you. Literally.

And she was like, gay men are my favorite. Her best friend is a gay man. Yeah. And so she, we started talking, just, you know, kind of how you and I did. We just started talking back and forth. We exchanged numbers. She was like, hey, I'm playing in Rogers, Arkansas,

with Melissa Etheridge. Melissa's been on the podcast. I fucking love Melissa Etheridge and her wife. She is so talented. Greatest humans. I loved Melissa Etheridge as well. And so they were playing in Rogers, Arkansas, at the Walmart amp.

And Jewel was like, why don't you come out and sing with me? I was like, what? I was like, are you kidding me? And she was like, yeah, why don't you come out and sing with me? And I was like, absolutely. I can't turn that down.

So we got on the tour bus. it was like eight o'clock at night, and we drove eight hours to Rogers, Arkansas, and we got there, and we had never met in real life. We had only talked, you know, texted and things like, and voice memos and things like that. And we got there, and she knocked on my door, and I opened the door. She was like, you got a cup of sugar? And I was like, and she came on the bus, and she had her guitar, and she was like, we're going to sing this song that we didn't.

She was like, I don't want to sing a hit with you. I want to sing a hit that's going to, I want to sing a song that's going to offend people. I'm like, okay. And she's a funny bitch. Yeah. She's hysterical. And she was like, let's sing this song that's going to offend everybody. And I'm like, okay.

I was like, I've never heard this song before. So she gives me a piece of paper. She's like, here's the song. I'm shitting myself that I'm about to sing in front of Jewel. You know, never met her. It's not like we're best friends. And I'm about to, I'm sitting on the couch. Jewel is sitting next to me playing at the guitar.

And I'm about to sing this song with her. And I start singing and she stopped. And she was like, she said, bitch. I was like, ma'am, what did I do? And she was like, you can fucking sing. And I was like, I like sunk down into the couch. I didn't hide how much I was, I was like, I'm not hiding this. This is everything.

That's the confirmation you needed. It was. So I went out and I sang with her. And then she called me. What song was it? So it was a song called Stop Hating. or stop hating hate or something like that. And it's like, the song is like,

stop saying the word faggot, stop saying like. How do you sing that? I want to hear this. I'm trying to think how it even goes. Oh, so it's like, my pussy ain't weak, can you handle that? So what is it? So stop calling men a pussy like that. Don't need young girls to.

thing that even their sex organs are weak. So stop saying pussy. And while I'm at it, you can stop saying faggot. It really is time. I think we've had it. And so it's like just like all these things of like stigmas of like quit saying these things. Never saying this, never heard the song. And by the way, you sounded great. Oh, well, thank you. But I'm like, have this piece of paper and I'm singing the song on stage with her. And it was incredible because she like, I'm thinking nobody's going know who the fuck I am right and so she calls me out on stage and like the crowd starts screaming and I'm like what the fuck you know like it was it was just incredible and then then she called me back out to yodel because I can yodel and so she's like yodel right the fuck now Matt

do it now yes we're obsessed with yodling we love it dude so we yodeled carly pierce was on the podcast three days ago and she could she can she and yodel, but she wouldn't do it for us. Why? I don't know. Okay, I'll do it for you. Oh, God, okay. Let's see.

What's the song? God, I'm excited. The song is, um, uh, well, chime bells are ringing, Yuddle A T, mocking buds I sing,

Yuddle Aute T. Hush. My nipples are hard. My nipples are hard. Yuddle A T. Upon a summer's Eve. Yuddle A T. Ud.

O T. Adda-Loo-O-T. A-Loo-O-T. Yiddly, hudit, I like, hilly, loo, y'alli, loo, y'alli, lootie, oh, lootie. Oh, my God. I love that. I have goosebumps. I've never done that for anybody.

That is so cool. I love that. When did, okay, how did you discover, where the fuck did you learn how to yodel? Jewel. Wow. So she yodels, too? She yodels. She grew up in Alaska.

Yeah. You know, and that's like, yodeling was their family thing. they all yodeled. Right. And I was so obsessed with her that she could do it. So I had to teach myself how to do it. Oh, my God. And so I told her that I could yodel.

And she was like, wait, really? So we're on, I'm on side stage. We had already sang together. And she said, somebody in the audience said, yelled yodel. And she was like, oh, you want me to yodel? And they were like, yeah. And so she was like, Matt, get your ass back out here. And I went back out there and we yodeled together.

And I was just like, what the fuck. Oh, my, I got goosebumps. That is so cool. It was crazy. And then afterwards, she was like, Matt, you got to do music. And I was like, I'm too scared. I don't think I'm good enough. Like, I don't think that I can.

You're very good. And so she put me in touch with her producer here in Nashville. And I had like a list of songs that I'd written. And I came to Nashville and I recorded them all. And we just literally got all the masters back literally two days ago. Oh, so the record. I'm sending me stuff. I want to hear.

Well, so I never sent you anything because I didn't. want you to think like, oh, he's sending me music because my husband, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? I'll tell you if I like it or not. But you know what I mean? Like, I didn't want you to think, oh, like, he's trying to get into music or like he wants to be, you know what I mean? No, I wouldn't think that at all. So I didn't want to ever do that because I was like, no, I don't want to think that. My husband sends me his tracks all the time because I'm not a jelly roll fan. I never have been. And I will tell my husband straight up, do not put that on your album. This is terrible. And so he loves that because he'll talk shit and be like, you fuck up my algorithm. But he really loves the fact that he'll send me tracks and I'll be like

yes, no, yes, no. And he really listens. He won't put him on the album if I don't like him. Well, and that's what I want to is somebody to be like, this is really good or this is not good. I will always be honest. And so now Sloan and like everybody at WME, they obviously there's such a big country music that have a hold on that. And they're like, shout out Sloan. We love you. Shout out. We love you, Sloan. They're like, Matt, your voice is so unique and it's so good. You have to do this music. But we don't know where your music's going to fall because it's not like pop country. Yeah.

It's more folk. Like, they're like, it's very much jewel. But do you think that you could do like a jewel mix with like Tyler Childers? Because Tyler Childers is kind of folk music in some ways. And that's kind of what I feel like my music is similar to. So that's kind of like where we are right now is, you know, they're like, oh, Matt, your music is incredible, but it's probably not going to be mainstream enough. It's not going to be on the radio.

It's not going to be, you know, this, this, and this. Your voice is incredible. The music is incredible. We just don't know where it's going to land. We don't know where it'll live. Well, lucky for you, you have a cult following that will probably blow their minds. Well, I hope. But I also don't want to get my hopes up, you know, because like that was.

Have faith in yourself. That was always what I wanted to do. And so to just put the record, just to make the record was just for me. Would you ever mix music in with your comedy shows? Yeah. So I have a little bit. Jewel actually tells me she thinks that I should sing my songs

on stage while I do my comedy like either before or after or like some way do it that way but I'm just like how do I go from like talking about sucking dick to write into this beautiful ballad you know right how do I do that in yeah

you know because like Josh Adam Meyer and Josh Wolfe those are all friends of ours my husband's like really entrenched in the comedian world and they sing a lot of stuff online but it's funny stuff. Yeah, see, my music isn't funny. Right. And that's what I wanted was like,

I wanted to show people a different side of me. Like, not the funny side. Right. You want to separate church from states. Yeah, I think parody music is so corny. Right. Like, weird out Yankovic. Yeah, I think it's so corny.

It works for people. I do it every Christmas. I drop a Christmas song every year and it's... But I feel like that's different because it's Christmas. Yeah. You know what I mean? But like, now there's a... So right now in the show that I perform

at the very end, end of the, at the very end of the show, I perform an acoustic ballad of my neck, my back. I love that. Have you ever put it on TikTok? No. Why not? It will go fucking insanely viral. I'm so, I'm just, you can, here's the thing.

You can tell me I'm not funny. And I'm like, bitch, I know I am. But you tell me you can't sing and that'll hurt my feelings. Matt, put my neck, my back acoustic on TikTok and watch how much it fucking blows up. I'll use it 10,000 times if I have to until it blows up. It will blow up. I promise you. Oh, God.

I promise you. Please. You got to have faith in yourself. Dude, look how much you've done already. I know. I'm just. Look how much you've done already.

It's scary. It is very scary putting yourself out there. But dude, you got Jewel co-signing you. You just fucking yodled for us. Like, you've got talent, dude. That made my stomach hurt. No, it was so good.

Oh, God. My nipples got hard. I was turned on. Matt Matthews made Bunny's nipples hard. I never thought that I would get turned on by a yodel. And I was fucking. completely turned on. Like, it was amazing.

It's just so scary, you know? It is scary. Because it's such a serious thing, you know? Like, it's very intimate. And, like, I just, I wrote a song called Under Trailer Lights. And it's like, it talks about my mom and, like, living in a trailer. And, like, that's, like, WME's obsessed with it. Yeah.

And I'm just like. Because you feel so vulnerable. Yeah. It's crazy, though, because you wrote a book. Yeah, I know, but that's different. Yeah. That's so different. So this is, like, this is your.

like that one thing that you're going to have to. When we're off camera, I'll let you hear it. Okay. But I'm like, send it to me all your stuff. So do they want to drop it soon or is that going to be like your first single? So they want me to take label meetings. Okay. And I'm like.

Why do you have to sign with a label? I don't have to. And that's what I'm saying. But they want to do it. I mean, because my publicist is very, I'm the only comedian that my publicist has. Like she's worked with several big comedians. And then she was like,

Like, we want to bring on another comedian, but they wouldn't just sign anybody. So she represents massive, massive country stars, you know? Right. So she was like, I really want to work with you. And she doesn't take on anybody. So it was an honor for her to want to work with me. So I signed with her. And then obviously now WME. And so they want to be very strategic about it.

And they, I was just going to throw the shit out there and just be like, here you go. Do the Jesse Murph, man. That's what she does. God, I love her. I know. She's the sweetest. I love her. will literally throw music up and it will go completely insanely viral it'll chart all that stuff

and she'll never release it like but it just it just to get your name out there what she does that I will never do is and that's the biggest struggle that I had was I see all the artists that are blowing up with music is because they get their phone and they get the sound and they fucking lip sync it and I can't do that because it is the cringiest shit to me and they're like when you release a single you've got to be posting every day, every day, every day. My husband can't do that either. I can't do that. He's the same way. So I'm like, how do I post the music without making these videos?

You do other things. He'll like, you know, post a concert clip or like post a vulnerable moment you're having with a fan or like there's so many other ways to market it to where you're not having to sing in your camera. Yeah, because I'm just like, I'm not 22 years old. Like, doing a TikTok with my song. Like, I just can't do that. I get that.

Like, it's so cringy to me. What would be your dream collab if you, so I'm sorry, he's over here just fucking saw in logs. What would be your dream collab that you would be able to work with? I mean, you already worked with Jewel with music. Music. And comedy. Let's do both. Music and comedy.

Well, I mean, we're already both coming out of retirement. So for photography, I mean, obviously. I mean, yeah, baby. That alone is going to get these tities out. I can't wait. I don't think we're ready for what that could be. Um, music, I feel like, um, I've already performed with Jewel, but like doing, we had talked about it doing a duet together, but she's, she's been doing this for so long that she's just like, I don't want to work anymore, you know? Yeah. So she's kind of out. Um, music. I really love, right now I'm really loving Jesse. I think she's so good. Yeah, she's amazing. I love her new album. I really love that. Um, um, I really love

Oh He is going at it I wonder if you can hear him in the microphone I know we usually edit it So I'm trying to think who I'm just like Really really really obsessed with right now Um

Male or female Male or female I really love I really love Ella right now Dude Ella is so saucy I love her She and I are good friends. Well, we've talked about that.

You know that we're friends. We're both from Alabama. Yeah, yeah. I won't go there. But so, yes. Ella, I think Ella's great. I don't know that I'd, she's my dream collab by any means. But, man, that's hard.

So we got Jesse and Ella. We got, we got, the total opposite ends of the spectrum. Well, Jesse's going a more sexy way. And then Ella's going more country darling. Oh, I love Elvis. Yeah. I mean, I do too. I just feel like this era for Jesse is, you know, she's so young.

Oh, yeah, yeah. So we're going to see this era and 10 other more as she goes through her thing. So nobody get married to the idea that she's going to be prancing around like Priscilla Presley next year. No, it's going to be a completely different human. No, no, no, no. As she ages, she's going to evolve into different eras of her life. Also, I'm really like, I really love Nandi's grunge.

Yeah, I love that, yeah. Um, like Pearl Jam, Nirvana. Biscuit kick lately. Oh, we love Fred. You know Fred's in Nashville. No, I didn't. Oh, yeah, I talked to Fred all the time. I posted a barrel race.

You know how a barrel race. And I posted a barrel racing clip the other day with the keep rolling and roll. I saw it. I was like, this is hot. Yeah. I'm like, I love that. It just really reminded me of like, it's very nostalgic. Yeah, Fred's out here in Nashville.

He lives here. Bush. I love Bush. Not the Bush. Gavin Rosdale. Not Bush, but the band Bush. Yeah.

Those are all great. Those are all great. Well, Kirk Cobain's dead, but, you know, it's fine. There's always Courtney Love.

Courtney Love was amazing. I loved her. Her daughter, their daughter, followed me on Instagram. Francis, yeah. Yeah. Crazy.

She married Tony Hawk's fucking son. Like what two fucking just like empires? Yeah. Kurt Cobain and Tony Hawk, fucking their world's coming together and they had a baby together, like wild. So I'm going to ask you a couple questions

to close out. you've built this empire from scratch what's something that you wish more people knew about the hard work behind the scenes how much work it is you know people think that oh you just blew up on the internet you just got successful overnight from videos you don't realize just how much work we put into this

and how hard it is to stay to maintain you know how many people go up and then straight back down to be able to go up and keep coasting and keep growing is very hard that is the hard number one how much money I've spent, you know, on my team, on publicists, on managers, on agents, like the amount of just like blood, sweat and tears that go into it and then to stay there. Yeah.

Was there ever a time that you almost gave up, like, creating content? No. Never almost gave up because I, what the fuck else am I going to do? Right. Like. Right. No, I feel the same way. I'm like, my husband's like, you feel like you can't ever take time.

off. I'm like, I can't. My entire brand is online. I feel like I can't ever take off. Yeah, no, for sure. They did ask me the other day, they were like, would you ever do like a destination show? And I was like, what do you mean? They were like, Love Island. They were, no, like, going to a, they were like you and like several of your friends that are in the industry. And they were like, y'all like, you and Bunny could go and do a podcast in Mexico. And we could bring Jewel and y'all do a song together. And we could bring Kelly Osborne and like sell all the, like a cruise almost. Yeah, yeah. You know, and I was like, WME asked me that.

And I was like, oh, well, I've never thought of it, but it sounds fun. I mean, I'm down. I'm down. Go to Mexico and, like, get a vacation with your friends and get to work. Sure. Get to hang out with fucking Kelly Osborne. I'm totally down. I love Kelly so much.

She's so sweet. Is there anything that fame has given you that you never expected? It has given me, number one, it has given me clarity on who I am as a person. you know because everybody thinks that fame changes you right and for a lot of people it does money doesn't uh what is it money does money reveals character yes yes and uh i think that is one of the one of the things that i have always like being humble is very very strong driving force for me yeah i don't ever want to change because people know who i am or because i have money or anything like that.

Like, I just want to, I always want to say who I am. And that's a lot of people are like, would you ever, are you ever going to move to Nashville? Are you ever going to move to New York or L.A.? And I'm like, no, I live in Bumpfuck Alabama steel.

Yeah. You know? Would you, you never leave Alabama? I mean, if, if I had, like, if there was the right opportunity, maybe, but I'm like, I'm two hours from Nashville.

Right, from everything. You know, like, so I'm two hours driving here to you or I can get on a flight, two hours to New York. You know what I mean? Like, if I have to go do a role or in a movie or a TV show

or if I got something like that and I had to go work for a little while, that's fine. But I'm always going to go back to my country. To your roots. To my house. You know,

and I think that is a part of what has kept me who I am. I love that so much. And last thing, if your animals could talk for 30 seconds, what dirt would they spill on you? I am. If there was any scandal

that any of your animals could leak. what would it be? Well, damn, bitch, if I tell you, then it ain't a scandal. Inquiring minds would have to know. We need the headline, Matt. Give it to us.

Any scandal? Well, nobody ever comes to my house, so there's no, like, I really be in that robe with no underwear on. People think that's a joke. That's the real deal. I really be cussing my husband out. Where is heavy?

Is he at home? Yeah. Yeah. I'm honestly very boring. I am too. I get it. I don't have, I don't like, you know, the whole, what is the biggest lie? I don't think there is one because I'm just, I figured it out. What is my biggest lie? Yeah.

When I was looking at gay porn, when I was like a young kid and my dad saw it and I told him I wasn't gay. Oh. Yeah. And he's like. But you were scared. Yeah. You were scared. But I was show looking at big dick on my dad's computer.

And he was like, how am I getting these pop-ups? Because back then you would get the pop-ups. And he was like, well, Son, are you gay? And I was like, no. He's just getting me, he's fucking having his morning coffee and the pop-ups are just dicks, slapping them in the face. I love it. Matt, tell people where they can buy tickets.

Tell people where you're going to be. Tell them whatever you want to tell them, where they can find you on the internet, see you all of it. Matt Matthews.com for all the tickets. Matt underscore Matthews for all of the socials. One T in the last name. Yes. Is it one T?

Yeah. I always think it's two T's two. It's very common for two T's, but only one. All right. Well, I'm glad you made that clarification. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me. I can't wait to have you back on.

Come back anytime. My couch is always open for you. And you're going to have to teach me how to fucking yodel. Let's do it. I want to learn how to, while we're doing boudoir shoot. Okay. You want to make a TikTok and I'll teach you how to yodel? We'll do a TikTok.

Oh, my God. I'll be like, ooh, Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode. Upton Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.