Dumb Blonde - Melanie Martin: Love and Loss with Aaron Carter

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

Bunnie sits down for a raw and emotional conversation with Melanie Martin, also known as Aaron Carter's ex-fiance, with whom she shares her son Prince. Melanie opens up about how she and Aaron first connected on social media back in 2019 and the whirlwind start to their romance before Aaron's mental health and addiction issues started escalating over time. Melanie recounts the events leading up to Aaron's untimely and tragic death and gets real about the addiction demons Aaron was battling both behind the scenes and on screen. Melanie also talks about her grief process and determination to honor Aaron's memory while focusing on co-parenting their son. Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comMelanie Martin: IG | Love Beauty Official See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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hear her story. I don't know if you guys know who she is or not, but you will by the end of this podcast. How are you doing, baby? Good. How are you? I'm doing so good. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me, of course.

Girl, you've been through some shit, man. Yeah. A lot. Like, I just want to hug you. It's been, I was doing a lot of research last night, and the shit that I, you know, saw and, like, the things I read and just heard you speak about, like, I'm so happy that I'm able to give you a place where everybody can come and just listen to you tell your side of the story because I really feel like that's what's fair. So let's get into it.

Also, I just wanted to throw in there that we are in L.A. So if you guys are looking around and you're like, what is this studio? This is a studio that we are recording out of in L.A. and it's from Third Wheel Podcast. So shout out to them for squeezing us in and letting us shoot the podcast here. So anyways, Melanie, where did you grow up? I grew up in Orange County, but I originally am from Europe. So I came from Bulgaria and me and my mom came here. That explains your exotic look because you're so pretty.

That really explains like your features and everything. Thank you. So how old were you whenever you came here? Six. So kindergarten, like I started kindergarten okay yeah gotcha and how was your relationship with your parents and your uh my mom remarried and then um she's still married to my stepdad yeah so we came here and we've lived here ever since so and then and you grew up in la orange county oh and i've never lived anywhere else just orange county yeah so i lived in lancaster with aaron but tell me the difference between la and

orange county because i saw you corrected me on that uh it is i mean it's orange county is by the beach and it's more family oriented um there's a lot more yeah it's just a lot more family oriented tell me about growing up in Orange County. What was that like for you? Um, I'd say it was very, um, you know, I was safe, had good people around me, you know, never, I stayed out of trouble. Yeah. She's like, I was a good girl.

I was a good girl. Yeah. All of us good girls grow up to be naughty. Um, so growing up in Orange County and, you know, just kind of living this lifestyle, you grew up pretty much around, cause I grew up in Vegas. So we grew up around celebrities. Like it was like nothing to us to grow up and, you know, go to the grocery store and see a celebrity at the grocery store and stuff like that. Um, do you feel like your life kind of like your trajectory for your life was already set just by living in Orange County, like, you know, dating celebrities and so and so forth? Yeah. So

I mean, I've only had two boyfriends in my life and I'm 36. So it was just yeah. So I've only had two. Wow. It was Aaron and my ex. So yeah. Oh my God. That's crazy. Nobody would ever suspect that because I was the complete opposite. I was a hoochie mama. She's like, I've had two boyfriends. I've like, I've had two at a time. So, um, okay. So you are growing up in orange County and what do you do once you graduate high school? I just worked I did cosmetic like I worked at like Nordstrom like cosmetics I remember I worked for Chanel makeup artists did those waitressing bartending yeah all of that so I did that kind of for a while I mean just right after high school so you started bartending as soon as you got out of high school and I did go to um I went to a

community college but and then I have a beauty license and I just was in the cosmetic industry oh awesome so did you go to school to like for hair or just cosmetology okay I think we all did in that era yeah I went I just kind of stick with that and you know I want to continue doing that. My mom has a salon. So, OK, gotcha. The same. So keep it in the family. Stuff like that. So when, you know, you are bartending and stuff like that, what were you doing before you got into your relationship with Aaron? So I was focusing just on me, you know, my goals.

And I was just bartending, know full-time uh modeling jobs never really looking for love kind of in that same like groundhog's day kind of sad but also like you know keeping myself busy I was looking for someone that wanted me equally as much as I wanted him you had standards I had standards thank you you were like listen you want to fuck with this you got to rise to the occasion um so you were just single living your life and then how long did until you met Aaron after I met Aaron um a couple days after Christmas 2019. Okay. And then till 2022.

So on and off. Where did you meet Aaron at? At his home in Lancaster. Okay. So how did you guys? From social media. Okay. Out of no, it was just, I saw something of him and he was like being really sensitive

and it just, I saw something in his eyes that connected me with him and it was he was saying i'm just looking for my wife to live my life like live my future with and he was like with a like you know cooking a barbecue or something like that i just saw him say that one thing you know attracted me to him because i saw that he was looking for something and i was looking for that you know so I really didn't think he would reply but he did so so you slid in his dm I did you're like you're like what's up baby what do you say to Aaron Carter when you slide in his dm I'm your wifey here's your wifey it's delete I don't know why it's gone now I wish I had it but it's gone I think I have a screenshot somewhere but I said your dog is literally so cute I said this is my dog you know kind of thing so and then we connected with that so it's so innocent I know it was really yeah

I love that yeah so he replies back and what does he say it was really fast he said you know I would love to meet you first we spoke over the phone like a couple hours so he wanted to really get to know me and at first i was like oh wow this is really fast you know so then i gave him a chance drove to him only it was like two hours from my house so and then we were inseparable it It was like love at first sight when he opens the door and you guys see each other. Yeah, he recorded me on his YouTube. I didn't even, I wasn't aware that he went online so much, to be honest, because it happened so fast. It was like, you know, phone call, then come over.

Did you know who he was before? Yeah, I knew, but I didn't see everything that that was i didn't follow him for too long i only followed him that instant when i saw that video of him so i didn't look up anything about him right gotcha so you didn't know like the backstory no i didn't know his backstory his family it was kind of you know based off of the 2000s right that's about it gotcha so so he opens early 2000s yeah so he opens the door yeah and he was filming and I guess I saw the video later because they uploaded it somewhere on YouTube and he said this is gonna be my wife no so he said is she the one then he was like telling everybody in the camera so I don't know oh and so take me on this journey with Aaron because it starts out so sweet and just so loving.

And then it just seems like as time went on, like was he using whatever you guys first met? So I don't believe he was abusing his medications because he had a psychiatrist. I think he was being regulated when I first met him he was still on medication but it wasn't to the level of what it was in 2021 2022 and we can kind of get into there I'm not really supposed to speak about his medications unfortunately because there is an active case going on oh okay gotcha but I just want to let you know, you know, there was a change with when he changed doctors. Gotcha. With his medications and the levels of medications he was taking.

I feel like doctors really just do not care about their patients, some of them. You know, in this case, it seems like, you know, I just feel like doctors because of people's statuses will give them anything they want. Like it is if they ask for it or whatever. And I know you can't speak on it, but that's just my opinion that I'm. Yeah, I like your opinion. Michael Jackson, like look at what happened with him. And like there's so many celebrities that end up like overdosing or doing things, you know, on these medications that they're prescribed. But for some reason, it's like the doctors are just never getting blamed. seeing are doing things you know on these medications that they're prescribed but for

some reason it's like the doctors are just never getting blamed I've been watching a lot of shows about it um on Netflix about that so I've been keeping up like trying to do research on it a little bit okay so when you guys first got together you don't feel like he was abusing drugs or anything. What was the relationship like? So it was really, I mean, it was 2020 was like the first couple of months. Obviously, you know, people always say, you know, the first couple of months are always the best. It's like the love state, you know. But it really was.

And we would get back to that level. But I would have to say that there was a lot of people involved. We can get into that more. That made it nearly impossible to get back. When you say there was a lot of people involved, do you mean like? His friends. None of my friends are really involved. I kind of lost a lot of friends. But they were still there,

but they understood, you know, what was going on and that, you know, Melanie's growing up, she's getting relationships, she's getting pregnant, you know, she's busy with her, her job at home, you know, the clothing company. Yeah. So it was like a different, you know, I was stay at home mom for a little bit. Yeah. Well, we're going to, we'll rewind though. And we'll start talking about when you got pregnant and stuff like that so in the first in the first you know few phases of your relationship was it his camp around you guys no actually i want to get into that when i first met him it was just him and the dog and his one dog he only had one dog i had one dog and he was going online but i didn't see him arguing as much with people compared to later on.

He cared more about the comments and stuff. Do you think it's because he was more on medication? Well, yeah, I think the medication just added to his paranoia. And I'll get into it. He he was very paranoid all the time. He didn't know who to trust. Even in the beginning no it wasn't until I'd say like maybe two months into the relationship that's when I

noticed it more and that's when we had our first fight it was pretty bad was he ever diagnosed with any mental illness so some sort so no he was never diagnosed with anything but he's had psychiatrists and when i was in the relationship i did not see one psychiatrist come to him but he they were prescribing him all these medications but they never actually physically saw him i never saw a doctor come into our home or him go to an office did he do like face times with them or anything? Barely. Wow. So these people were just pretty much prescribing medications just over the phone because it was who he was. I believe in that, what you're saying. Yeah. Allegedly.

Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. When you guys got into your first argument, what was it about and how did that go? So I'll remember, you know, the beginning we were going to dinners, not, you home because it was before covid it was during covid time so um i quit my job within bartending because it was too far away and he was like i just want you to stay home work on the clothing company and then so he he gave you that clothing company yeah he did what is the name of oh oh what is the name of that clothing company um our clothing company was the love collection

okay and he specifically made that clothing line for you to be able to work at home yes okay because i did bartending i did read some people were like you know she took that from him or you know yeah so people say yes they they don't like and but then i have a lot of supportive fans too absolutely for sure but i we just want to clear the air that that clothing line was specifically made because aaron did not like you working yes and he wanted me to stay at home with him right gotcha which i didn't see that as like a red flag you know i'm just thinking oh gosh, she wants to be with me all the time until later on. Yeah.

Well, and it's hard for anybody who's in that situation because when you're first in a relationship with somebody, you want to be next to that person. Yeah. I was happy that I didn't have to work, honestly. Yeah. At the bar, I got to stay at home with him and help him get his taxes in order and help him. But I tried. I kind of got thrown into, into you know years of mismanagement from all of his people on and off and it was that was a job in itself trying to fix everything like you just got thrown into a frying pan literally so let's circle back to this first argument

i'll remember the first argument was about a hairdresser because he saw old messages of him like being kind of flirty with me and so he's like oh she's cheating on me and he would like say it publicly it was an old message from five years ago it wasn't even flirting it was just like you're beautiful I'd love that picture of you or something like that of that sort and he throws it you know and I'm like I've never fought with anyone like this before it was just it was like zero to a hundred yeah and and I'm like I've never fought with anyone like this before it was just it was like zero to a hundred yeah and and I remember you know he made a whole scene about it and posting online saying she's this and that and yeah what was that like how did that make you feel whenever he did take that first argument it was like I feel like I didn't I thought it was

completely over after I left I didn't then you know then i realized it was a pattern that he would just find a reason for us to argue every couple of weeks because he was i caught on to the chaos yes that's what i'm having i don't think he was used to just it being you know happy lovey-dovey all the time from his family life i think he was just so used to the chaos unfortunately did he ever talk to you about like how he grew up in chaos yeah and I didn't I feel like I didn't I feel like I couldn't read him exactly and I didn't know if he was just saying that and I wish I took him a little more seriously I'll I'll say that yeah so he he did try to say hey you know I am the way I am because of the environment that I grew up in yeah did he ever

like suffer abuse as a child or anything um so this is one thing I can comment um when my mom first came to visit Aaron Aaron pulled my mom to the side and was like hey I want you to read this book because Melanie doesn't really like reading or something he said something but I'm like babe I've been trying to read it but you know we got busy and she it was called a child called it and I don't know if you guys know what that book is it's about a kid that was abused and like but not to I don't he wasn't abused on that level I don't think but he was just saying like I just want you to see what abuse is when you're a child and he tried to get me to read it and I did read a little bit of it and I'm like wondering like why is he trying to get me to read

this book so later on I understood why was it physical abuse or like sexual abuse in the book um physical mental physical for the child got you i've never heard of that book we'll have to check it out so you know after you get in this first fight you leave you you think it's completely over with yeah and you're just like all right this is it we're done what happens from there because obviously you guys had a long relationship so it wasn't over after that first no i i remember i went home and it was always him fighting back and forth and me trying to get like he wanted me to always fight back like i feel like i caught on to it later that he wanted to argue like but if you fought back it would escalate correct yeah but he wanted those games

you know like i don't know yeah well it's toxic it's a toxic relationship so it's it's like we were talking about off camera it's push and pull you know he's gonna push you away as hard as he can and then but he wanted me to fight back and like win him over again like he wanted me i realized that he just wanted me to quote unquote quote kind of like beg for him back like to get back with him yeah it was almost like he wanted me to leave so that I could come back and was there cheating that went on in the relationship because it sounds like there it was there was okay because it sounds like somebody who would triangulate a situation it was never I would never be he would try to i really everything

was kind of like i would see it later after i after the situation happened that he would try to find a reason to break us up or some you know find a reason from oh you did this on this day right that's what i was reading whenever you were telling me about how you would like pick fights with you and then want you to win him back because that sounds like what I went through with one of my exes before where it was extremely toxic but he would always triangulate us and there would always be another girl in the situation it's like he's gonna fight with me push me away go hang out with that girl but he wants me to try to win him yes you know yeah that's exactly what happened with us yeah how often did he cheat on you well he always tried to say that I'm the cheater when we would break up even if I didn't physically cheat on him or anything like that even

just anything like going to see a hairstylist he'd be like oh you cheated on me and he would throw and I would never defend myself online because one, you shouldn't have to. It's a private relationship. You know, he everything was online and cross those boundaries. But technically, you really shouldn't have had to have gone online to protect yourself. Yeah. And defend yourself because this is your relationship. Yeah.

I actually think it's admirable that you didn't because I would have gone online yeah I knew I was going to be recorded I'm like I don't want to say something wrong yeah it's going to be taken the wrong way and then it'll bring more attention to like our fights so I would just stay off camera I think that's so much more admirable to be able to not say anything especially when people online are attacking your character, just shows a lot of strength. But also it shows where your head and your heart was at. Like if you were really trying to capitalize off Aaron, you would have taken every moment that you could have to go online and make headlines by arguing with him.

Yeah, I never did any of that. I just stayed. I'm like, I'm just waiting for him to get back to normal again. waiting for him to get back to normal again. Same. So how, um, so how much longer up the road did he start spiraling,

spiraling out of control? Was this before you got pregnant with Prince or did he, I noticed it was, um, basically I saw a big difference in him right after I got pregnant. Cause he was doing celebrity boxing and I noticed he wasn't taking as many, uh, prescription pills. Just,

I could even say, he even told me, Hey, I'm going to go lighter on my medication. And he was like, I think I want to, what do you call it, wean off of it. He actually told me that. And I said, oh, I was, you know, I didn't want to say you need to. I didn't speak like that because I didn't know how to go about drug addiction yet right and I had no one to kind of help me like put him in the right direction but I would always say did he have a manager that he had a bunch of managers on and off on and off on and off but is there anybody that you they were pushing it on him they were the ones giving it to him wow so when you would go to them and I didn't mean to cut you off but I just you say no, you didn't have anybody to help you,

I kind of want to zero in on that because when you're dealing with an addict, we have addiction in our family also. My bonus baby's mom is an addict. And just when you're dealing with an addict, it takes a village to really help that person. It takes a village to really help that person. So, you know, you being just one person and his love interest, too, is really hard because it's going to cause knockout, drag out fights because, you know, you're the closest thing to him. They always say you hurt the one. I'm in the home. So it's nearly impossible for the you know, I was there to protect to keep him better than him being alone he was not he couldn't handle being alone was he like scared to be alone it wasn't that he was paranoid gotcha

but he just didn't do well alone like i just thought when we would break up i was always worried like i couldn't sleep i couldn't so when you say that his management kind of fed him drugs like when you would go to them and be like no i have messages of it in my phone really saying what like hey i have this for you i have that for you wow and i met the manager that i met in 2022 after prince was born he was the one who went um did a tour with him uh like it was like a mini tour right but he wasn't getting unfortunately the right amount of people at his shows right he's gotten a lot of support after he passed away but before you know he didn't have too many people going to his shows people had like written him off because he did become such an online circus

you know and i feel like fans turned so easily like it's it's either they fucking love you to death or they fucking hate you there's no in between when it comes to fans and i feel like a lot of us failed aaron you know because he deserved so much better like he was a child he was you know aaron carter and he was a childhood star and people loved him when he was a kid and then you know i think with a lot of child stars, like look at Amanda Bynes. Yeah. Beautiful girl. That was his first girlfriend.

Was it? Oh my goodness. I never knew that. Yeah. And you know, but it's like everybody loves them when they're young and they're doing something for them. But then as they get older and they have that transition of not being a child anymore, it's like, oh, you know, fuck them.

We don't need them anymore. He pushed away the good part of his like family and team, I would have to say, because they wanted him to do better. I always wanted him to do better. But as a fiance, I didn't know how to bout to do that without losing him. Right. That's powerful. Yeah. Let's circle back. So you said when you first got pregnant with prince he was doing celebrity boxing yeah and um he was like i think i'm gonna he's like he i saw a change in him and i'm like wow like we're finally getting it together like we're doing good and he was not taking it abusing his prescriptions he was going i was i had morning sickness and i was actually generally shocked that he would drive to la everyA. every morning and go practice.

I have never seen him do that. Like, actually physically go get up and, you know, work out and do something productive. I didn't see him be that way in a really long time. Were you guys trying for a baby? Yeah, he wanted a baby. I mean, he told my mom, she goes, you know, why do you want to buy a house with seven bedrooms? Why do you need such a big house? And she goes, oh, well, we're going to have it all with kids, you know, telling my mom that.

And she's a little shocked, but she loves being a grandma. I love that. He's so cute, too. Thank you. Prince is so freaking cute. Thank you. He's going to be, he's a gorgeous baby. He's going to be just gorgeous growing up because both of you guys have amazing genetics.

he's gorgeous baby he's going to be just gorgeous growing up because both of you guys have amazing genetics so you guys were trying to get pregnant and tell tell me about the day that you found out that you were pregnant what was Aaron's reaction oh he was so he was posting it everywhere telling everybody in his entire phone he messaged everybody in his phone he's like guess what Melanie's pregnant oh that warms my heart how'd that make you feel really i mean i i saw a change and i was i was i was ready for it too you know being 34 or 35 i think 34 you look great oh you're gorgeous thank you i appreciate you um okay so he was excited he's going to celebrity boxing has he did he ever fully not take any medication when he was with you um no only for the times that he would run out i would say so did he go through withdrawals

yeah he did yeah and then i he would say you know he's having a hiatal hernia but i knew it was just withdrawal from not taking his med from not having any medication and it was he wanted to tell people about like about his symptoms i think but he never fully like because he didn't he was in denial so he never considered himself a drug addict no but i mean i look at old interviews from six years ago and he would physically say in the camera, I am a drug addict. You can pull those up. Yeah. And then but to you, he would not say he's.

No, but maybe he said he needed his medication for his anxiety, which they prescribe Xanax as that. I used to have a Xanax addiction, so I get it. Yeah. Do you think maybe he loved you and just didn't want you to judge him? So that's why he never could admit that to you and come out and just say, hey, I'm a drug addict. Maybe. I hope I hope he loved me. Oh, I'm sure. I think we know Aaron definitely loved you.

Let's talk about the baby shower incident. You had talked about this just so that people can get an insight and i want everybody to know we're not here to bash erin but it is important that i feel like um the media does such a good job of blaming the women that are with the men and it's never the men's fault for some reason and it's like i think everybody deserves to tell their side of the story yeah and that's what we are here to do today so well i want to tell you okay you're saying so let's talk about the baby shower incident so this is kind of where i saw the most spiraling was from after the baby shower we never got it right like there was too much um not trusting each other and then

just events after events made it harder to get back to where we were from 2020 where we were you know a little better in our relationship well i don't think so much trust had been broken there was too much yeah from both sides you know because he would take everything personal with me he'd be like oh you know you talked to a guy when we were broken up like he would consider that cheating right even though he had full-on girlfriends on his living in the house right but it was okay for him to do that so you guys would break up and he would move girls into the house for like like seven i call i call him 72 hourhour H-O-E. Sorry.

You're such a gentle spirit. So, to hear you not even want to call these girls hoes, I think, speaks volumes. Well, no. Somebody made it up the other day, and I'm just like, oh, it's kind of funny. No, it's great. So, he would move these girls into the house when you guys would break up and then get mad at you. He would say that they're going to marry. He would say on his Instagram that this is his new wife. There was like a couple, not too many, I'd say that were.

You're a better woman than I. I'd have been tearing that house down with a baseball bat. I mean, I know I tried the first time and then I caught on to what he was doing. Right. And you're like, I'm just like, I'm not going to entertain it because he's doing it on purpose kudos to you woman so this baby shower incident sorry so no you're good i first of all he calls her and i never knew who this woman was because i never saw her messaging him he goes this is my old assistant he goes i want you to meet her she's really nice you'll really like her and i'm like okay so i get to know she seems like a really nice girl i didn't know later on because they both let

me know that they used to be in a relationship not a relationship but more than friends with benefit whatever they were fucking yeah okay gotcha okay so he would never go for that though if you tried to bring it a sister that you were. I couldn't. Yeah, that's the thing. I would have never been. I wasn't even allowed to see a hairstylist that, you know, I sent a photo of my hair in a cute outfit. That was considered cheating to him.

That I had to cut off a hairstylist who did my hair correctly, you know, made me look the way I wanted to look. Right. Things like that. you know made me look the way i wanted to look right things like that um but he was allowed and and he was she was being dishonest to me and he was being dishonest what were they being dishonest about by not telling me in the first place that they were in they were hanging out gotcha yep for a long period of time on and off on and off before you yes before me okay so then um i didn't know this i'm like oh this girl seems like really nice i feel like looking back i am super naive to not think you know you're super sweet you have a

gentle and i get it i get it that i was naive you know i'll call myself that i 100 was so i didn't know anything was going on because she wasn't really his type like he had a type so and what's his type girls like i don't know gotcha he had his type so um then she comes out to go to the baby shower it when when i'm seven eight months pregnant he just randomly decides that he doesn't want to go to the baby shower it when when i'm seven eight months pregnant he just randomly decides that he doesn't want to go to his own baby shower yeah to our baby shower she and another girl that was aaron's friend didn't go either so it was just my friends that went that's when i noticed i'm like this isn't real like i cannot believe this is happening. Yeah. That's hurtful, too, though. Like, you guys.

It was a start. Like, he wanted a family so bad, but then he doesn't show up to his own baby shower. I don't understand. Was he under the influence really bad? Like, you know. Yeah. Probably jaded his decision making, I'm sure. Yeah.

So that was when I noticed it never got better after that. It was just on and off. You know, he could be normal for a few days, but then he'll go back to his same behavior. There was a clip that I came across online where I think it really highlighted where your mental health was during this relationship. And I know a lot of people might have taken it. A lot of people might have taken it. You know, everybody on the Internet tries to find negativity and things where I actually kind of like saw the deeper the deeper meaning behind it. But there was a video where you're like, I cheated on you again. And he was like, you cheated on me and like was kicking you out of the house. And you're like, I need to go to the hospital.

I am not OK. you out of the house and you're like i need to go to the hospital i am not okay like yeah because he was stressing me out like trying to say that i'm cheating on him when all i did was talk to another male that's it were you pregnant during this time or was this it was when prince was three months old okay because the reason why i i kind of think i was uh just rebelling because he was speaking to other girls and I'm like you know what I finally had his child I'm thinking you know what let's see how it feels when I literally changed my entire life settle down with you and this and you're gonna sit and talk about me bad to your fans and I found somebody sent me a message of him flirting with another girl like

when we were still together and I got really upset so it was you just you guys were just in a toxic relationship it was tit for tat but I didn't really do tit for tat until you know it's just he kind of like it's just one day I'm I just I almost wanted I mean I wanted to leave him I'm like I'm not gonna deal with this I'm gonna raise him on my own yeah I wanted to raise him because I felt like I deserve better than that and but then yeah go ahead it broke my heart hearing that clip though of you saying yeah he made me say I I oh he made you say I need to go to the hospital no he made me oh he clipped he was like oh you know the cheating part yeah he's like you're talking to a guy and I'm like it's nothing it's just platonic it's nothing crazy but I feel like that was reactive abuse i feel like you were just finally like yes i cheated on you again like just to get it over with because i when i was in an

abusive relationship my ex would poke and poke and poke and poke until you finally are just like you know what yeah i fucking did it what are you gonna fucking do about it you know because you just get to the point where you're just like you just want the arguing to stop but to hear you say like i am not well I need to go to the hospital like that broke my heart because stressing me out that but that's you crying out for help you know and all people can take from that clip is you saying yeah I cheated on you and it's like really you guys need to see the bigger picture here of what's really going on you can tell in that clip that that is reactive abuse and that you are just to your wits end with that

so that really broke my heart with that situation um take me back to where when prince was born how was he did he come to the hospital yeah everything was great um after after the baby shower incident the girl finally left his assistant finally left and then i remember him calling me as soon as she left you know things were okay but while she was the same assistant yeah while she was I was at my on my mom's couch eight months pregnant uncomfortable you know while he's you know on Instagram live all day with her and they're just for no reason like it's just crazy now that you think back to it you're like dude what the fuck I can't believe I was so nice to that girl like the abuse she put me through by entertaining

him knowing that he's just gonna bring me back in the house when she goes she could have just easily went home and let me be back to in the relationship you know tell me about the situation that happened when you were seven months pregnant with his mom. Yeah. His mom was saying, you know, that he deserves better and that he can find someone else and that she's just using you for your money. Even though there's public media information about Aaron's finances as a child, how he lost all of his money due to not proper tax filing etc all that so she always tried to put it on me you know i saw old messages of her on facebook from 10 years ago that are on google of him of her harassing you know one of her son's wife things like that it's a pattern I saw yeah it's the same thing that she did to hit to his wife to me so it's almost like she's like projecting her ill will for her own kids onto the wives of her children it would have been nice if people that knew her personally would have warned

me that would have been nice what happened when you were seven months pregnant um they were chasing me down the stairs who's they him her and erin why were they chasing you down the stairs um they were i don't remember the reason some kind of argument but you know that's while you're seven months pregnant just chasing you down the stairs to like try to hurt you or just she was saying that you know I'm I'm put like I was put in Aaron's life from someone to like make his life bad I was a plant. That is just crazy. Yeah. So is she paranoid like how he is? Is she a drug user?

No, she's not. I mean, I don't really know. All I know is she has active alcoholism. Gotcha. And do you feel, did Aaron ever talk about his relationship with his mom? Well, when I first met him, he didn't even speak to her. Right. And then she just came around and poked her head in when she wasn't.

Well, I saw a video after he passed away of him and Aaron on Instagram Live in a car. And they had an argument. And he told her to leave. And that was right before he met me. Gotcha. So she probably held a grudge because you guys got together right after. And she feels like you took her son away from her. Yeah, but I didn't see her reaching out to him.

Right. So they just had like a serious toxic. I didn't meet her until a year later. I feel like all the relationships in his life were just constant toxicity and just fighting like that's really all he knew how to do yeah i feel like it's just he couldn't live with just a normal steady life who picked prince's name he did oh yeah he wanted it yeah his legal name is princeton oh so we changed it to prince or we had the name is princeton he's literally to Princeton. Or we had the name as Princeton.

He's literally Aaron's twin. I know. Thank you. He's so cute. Like he looks just like little baby Aaron. Moving forward, Aaron always fought with you online. And there was a, I watched a clip of the live that he did before he passed away. And you're blowing up his phone.

And finally, one of the last things you say to him is, you are going to die. Yeah, I just hate thinking about, like, why did I? Like, I wish I knew how to handle an addict better. But, I mean, to me, I didn't take that as you trying to be hurtful. I took it as you saying, like, you're going to die. It was kind of like, honestly, I would have to say I didn't know how to handle it anymore. And I just wanted people to know that he was like what was going on because I was scared. Right.

And I wanted people to possibly help, you know, but. That's what I took it as. I took it as you're like crying out for help. I didn't know what to do anymore I was like I was I think I was just so tired that week and so exhausted from all the craziness that was going on I didn't know how to handle it can you take I think my body just shut down because I and my brain when you're I didn't know what to do anymore when you're in those types of relationships they they consider the trauma that gets caused to your brain like brain damage because it it's like

years of brain damage especially being i'm not calling aaron a narcissist but being in a narcissistic relationship or toxic relationship it causes brain damage to you because it's that hurtful and just the whole you know toxicity of the relationship takes its toll on you emotionally and it's not good um can you take me in to the last week of his life? What was that like? Were you guys together? So we, I'll never forget. It was Halloween.

And unfortunately, I was there. I had to go to my mom's home to see Prince. So I would drive four hours just to see my son. Let's circle back yeah you guys had uh lost custody of Prince can we touch on that situation what happened with that situation um well we had an active case because the fans were calling and you know he was live all day and they had they were wondering like what's going, you know, this is not like he's smoking in the house and just. So because he would be on live all day long showing you guys his lives, the fans called CPS and were like, you need to do an investigation.

That's crazy. Yeah. So, I mean, just as far as that, it just never he had drug tests. And I remember it was Halloween day and I'm like babe you have a test that you need to go and I have to go see Prince I had spent a couple of days like I miss him I'm gonna go see we just got back from a show that he did with his manager who was giving him stuff so and we were fine you know um we went to Minnesota went to Mall of America just a couple of days

so they had taken prints and given prints to your mom how long did your mom have prints for for a couple months okay gotcha so they didn't give you a choice they were just like pretty much like hey we're removing him from the home yeah they said he couldn't live at aaron's house gotcha so i was living back and forth so I'm in my head all the time is my kid okay is Aaron okay two hours and I'm like trying to find I even bought an RV for him to live in next to like the house so that I can keep an eye on him basically but he didn't really he always wanted to stay at the house it was really hard my heart breaks for you thank you I really did love Aaron and like I just I'm sad that he didn't see, he always wanted to stay at the house. It was really hard. My heart breaks for you. Thank you.

I really did love Aaron. And like, I just, I'm sad that he didn't see how much I loved him and how much I wanted like it to work out. I think he knew. I really do think he knew. I mean, you guys, the only two people who really know what went on in that relationship is you two. It doesn't matter what any of us on the outside think at all.

You know, and I think that Aaron wouldn't have had a child with you and kept going back and forth with you had there not been some sort of love there or have him knew that you loved him. And I think he might have hurt you the way that he did because they, you know, it's the old saying, you hurt the ones that you love the most, which is fucked up, it's so real he pushed away everybody that was actually beneficial in a good way in his life it's really sad and people but his like team let him do that and you didn't oh you kept coming back his team wanted money aaron aaron was really manipulated like he would just give money away to people it's really sad that's a sagittarius

spirit that's how my husband is too yeah he would just give you know expensive watches to people and his managers and he had really slimy assistants male and female and they would always get paid you know way more than they should and they would take his money when he was under the influence trying I even found after he died a a signed paper but not He died a signed paper, but not authorized to be executor of his will by an assistant. That's so creepy. Yeah, but it wasn't finalized. But Aaron signed it, but it wasn't finalized. That is so creepy that an assistant would want that. Yeah, he was only 34 and he was trying to be his executor of

his estate i have that in my phone too i just feel like he didn't have anybody around him that loved him where was his brother and all of this so i'll have to say that i think that they had boundaries from years of dealing with what i dealt with and that they kind of it's their choice you know they had boundaries on what they wanted yeah you have to have hard boundaries when they had children and stuff to protect which is completely understandable that's how I am with both my sisters I have to yeah hard boundaries with them because if not it's always just some weird shit like it's never a normal situation with them um so take me into this last week And I can tell whenever you started talking about how much it hurts you.

Yeah. So, you know, I don't. Because, I mean, there's so many things I wish I did differently. I hate that for you. And I blame myself almost all the time. I'm sorry. Yeah. That, like, makes me want to tear up because I just can't imagine.

I couldn't imagine losing not only the father of my child, but the man that I really thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with. So I just want you to know my heart really aches for you on that. Thank you. So take me into this last week. You guys were together or you weren't? Well, we were together Halloween. He passed away November 5th.

So technically I saw him, what, that would be six days before he died. I left to go see my son. I wasn't on instagram because i was spending time with my son i even went trick-or-treating but um i think that was the night that he did something that i had never seen him do before and he went to rehab for it back in 2017 it was for inhaling this thing called air duster and you can die from it. It can give you brain damage. It's really, it's really bad.

Yeah. Huffing anything. Huffing anything. Yeah. So it's always scared me. I had friends that were huffers when I was growing up and I never understood it. I never knew what that is. I've never seen it before.

Aaron told me he would never touch it, you know, but. So he did have a problem with huffing before went to rehab for it. You and the whole relationship had never seen him huff anything. I've seen him once before he did it the last time he passed away. When was the last time that you passed away? So he did it a month before he passed away and his manager was in the house and they, they kicked me out. They didn't want me there um they there's a actually a video of me saying you need to go to rehab and I came to the house and his friend was like trying to kick me out they put an article saying I was stalking the premises trying to make

me look bad but then Aaron turned off the camera because in the video I said you need to go to rehab please and his manager was like get out of here the late manager of him that was like providing substances for him and actually on the autopsy of his death there is a pill bottle of his name in the autopsy found in the bathroom the manager why hasn't the manager been charged with anything i don't know i don't really what i don't even know how to comment on that because i don't know there's just so many like it's just crazy i don't know i just feel like not only did you know the fans and the people who are around aaron fail him the judicial system is still failing him even after his death you know it's just gonna happen

to more people if they don't fix this make examples of people absolutely so he you saw him huff the month before yeah and then he it was almost like a cry for help you know i noticed what what do you think triggered such a brutal spiral from getting the prince taken away i almost feel like i wish i could help people in addiction that lose their children because i feel like it's just it's just some people can't handle losing their children even though they lost it in the first place because of their addiction but i wish that the cps didn't treat him like a like they treated him pretty fair like pretty poor like really bad like i understand he wasn't doing what he needed to do and i even stated that online i'm like you need to like finally do this like get sober please i've even said it before would he not go into

rehab like did you ever draw a hard line in the sand and be like yo if you don't go to rehab i'm going to leave you i said do you really want our mom my mom to raise prince and then me have to live somewhere else in an apartment with your son and then this is the this is something i have never stated but his mother told him guess what aerosmith got his child back when he turned 18 he got lost custody you can just do the same thing that's the advice she gave him instead of no you should straighten your life out and you should do what you need to do to get your son back get your life you're only 34 instead of being positive and saying you are only 34 you have so much to live she said that like keep that's like of course he's not of course he's not getting a good he i couldn't just be the only person giving him advice he needed a whole team of people to help him not just one person and the people he kept and then you know i had then i had

a deal with him you know getting mad at me for talking to him that way like saying you're doing this wrong you need to go to your drug test and then stop babying me stop bossing me around i had how was he getting around these drug tests if he was still using is it because they were prescription pills that he was i don't know they wanted him to go i don't even know i was reading emails between the lawyers and stuff and and they were telling his the cps were saying hey he needs to get off of this stuff like that and they never did anything i don't know that is wild it is so wild to see how many angles of people that could have stepped in and changed this boy's life like granted he is a grown man you know that's a lot of you know he was a grown man and I get that but even grown men and women need help yeah I just wish that it was easier for for addicts to get their kids back

you know like not just pull push them away yeah and just cut and make things worse so can you take me to the day that Aaron died where you're at where I was at my mom's house and were you guys fighting at this time yeah because he basically said it's too late now we can't get back to where we are like we're not going to be a family why did he say that I because he knew he had to go to rehab wow so he would he wanted to just stay fucked up he didn't want to I don't know try to fix things I mean of would he wanted to just stay fucked up. He didn't want to. I don't know. Try to fix things. I mean, of course he wanted to. But it's did did he have the willpower to do it? I don't know. Right. I don't know if he wanted like almost I'll admit when he was off his medication, he almost was depressed. Like it was like he hated being sober. sober well your brain has to go through when i

remember yeah i remember when i was getting sober and coming off xanax it is one of the hardest things you'll ever fucking do he knew that too he knows yeah it's hard and i don't think i started feeling good i got sober in 2017 i didn't start feeling better in my brain until 2023 wow like that's how long it takes. And I, you know, I'm not here to sugarcoat shit. Sobriety fucking sucks. But it is the most powerful thing you will ever fucking do for yourself. Yeah.

Is to be able to stand in a room full of people and be like, I'm sober. I know I stayed sober because I saw the spiral and I'm like, I can't sit there and even have a bottle of wine because then it'll set a bad example. And then one of his assistants, the many assistants he had was sending him wine and the fans know about that too that is crazy so you were sober you were sober the whole time yeah i mean in the beginning you know we would have wine maybe once every six months or something like just out of nowhere because we didn't go out that much yeah like i didn't ever like pop open a bottle of wine I would never order wine you've never done pills no I've never been on prescriptions or anything like that no maybe like during a c-section things

like that yeah I mean like or surgery that's I think that's mandatory if you're getting your fucking body cut open you definitely need something for sure so take me to the last day of him being alive so he was found passed away on the 5th but we had a maid in the house and yeah so I have some questions about the maid what was the situation around her she had been working for him for a long time or was she a new maid no she was new she was given by a publicist lady that we met in a group i know it sounds really we she lived close by but we met her like in a in the local grocery store and she just said i'm a fan of aaron and i'm a publicist here's my instagram so dangerous that you guys would bring people

in or he would bring people in like that um because you know you never know people's intentions either that's he was so trusting to that i was too trusting too right i feel like i was naive like i didn't understand it was your first i'm putting like someone in the house i should have probably done checks on people it's just you never know anybody's intention i'm the complete opposite i don't trust anybody ask my team i'm like well it's like people try to like people also they know that he's a grown man you know what i mean but also they know his problems too at the same time so i don't understand i would have just been scared that somebody would have came in to try to exploit that or you know make a dollar off selling stuff to the tabloids or you know like you just never

know where people's heads are at especially in this day and age yeah so the maid was in the house um i was she stopped i think aaron told her hey don't talk to melanie because that's what he did to all of his team when he would be upset with me he'd be like don't talk to melanie but i was still communicating with the publicist and i said hey is he okay And I read old messages after he passed away that she went to the house and was like, I have food for you in the messages. So I'm really confused. Right. So and then she didn't tell like she wasn't there and she was messaging him saying she wasn't telling me that she was communicating with him. I think that because he told her hey

don't talk to melanie so she like she abided by his rules like don't talk because he's paying her yeah right or there you know she probably liked him a little more than me you know because he's aaron carter even though she pretended like she had my best in that you know she was trying to help me with him but that week she just cared about what he said how long was she working for him before she before he passed so she lived locally in in lancaster and uh i think we knew her for like two years maybe a year and a half right okay gotcha and she was getting him a couple of jobs but a lot of jobs got canceled because of the trolls and things like that they would call the events and say no we don't want aaron doing this celebrity event for charity it was like a charity event and he got

he couldn't go and he wasn't going to perform because the fans called that happened it's just like one after the other everything just hurt him but then he dealt with the hurt by taking pills i think just going deeper into his addiction and drinking or doing whatever so that last day was he still huffing also so he the so i was asleep when it happened it was 3 a.m but no but none of the fans sent me the the message or the the recording of him and it's just it's so traumatized like that he was doing it. That he was huffing on live? On live. Wow. I didn't even see those videos.

I don't want to see that. I don't really like to see anything from that week. It's just too hard for me. Because then I can't sleep for days when I see stuff at this point. I don't know how you're holding it together as well as you are. That's a lot to go through and then to lose somebody so suddenly you know so he's on live huffing paint he had a he had an appointment to go to an intake for rehab on friday november 5th or so in his mind he probably thinks it's

like one of those his last hurrahs before he has to go to rehab because you know i thought about it that way maybe you know i'm just this is speculate speculation on my part he was like he the guy messaged him from the line rock because i signed him up and i paid like a down payment for the rehab and he said hey can't wait for our meeting in the morning on friday november 4th let's dive into that really quick. So many people call you a gold digger because of dating Aaron. And I've heard you say a few times during this conversation,

I paid for this, I bought him this, I did this. Or I had to save the finances with my savings account because he was giving money away to the wrong person and to like a random fan on the internet when he was not in his right mind. And this to like a random fan on the internet when he was you know not in his right mind your own money not money that you got no money from before Aaron right so we just wanted to clarify that Melanie is not a gold digger so he was going to rehab and tell me about the you know take me from there from him going on live huffing to

the phone call that you get from the publicist she let me know right that he's drownded she just calls you and says how did she find out 9-1-1 on a text message how did she find out from the maid she didn't even tell me she said yeah and then i heard the 911 call from online it's like you know they posted the phone call of the maid calling 911 saying that she found him in the bathtub or whatever and didn't there's so much um conspiracy around his there is a lot and it's just like you could go on and on and on. Did you go to the house after he died? I did yes. Did you did you see his body? No. No. There's so many people that have said that he was in the bathtub a lot longer than they're saying. There's some people saying

that there's no water in his lungs. Do you do you know the autopsy says that he passed away from drowning xanax and die floor i forgot how to say it the the huffing stuff yeah which i will add that days prior to him passing away we went to a no jumper interview which is another podcast and adam 22 and l Lena was just on the podcast okay well I don't want to speak bad about it because it's not nothing to do with them but Aaron's manager came by with a huffing can and I was like taking photos of it and I'm like I was like worried I'm like I want like I don't know why he brought this here like like why did Aaron know to the interview yeah I took photos of it I took photos. I have photos of it.

I took photos in the studio, and I'm like, why are these people putting this around Aaron? Like, they take no accountability. Like, that's the kind of people Aaron was hanging out with. He chose to be with people like that. I don't understand why his manager is not being charged for some sort of... He's quiet. He doesn't speak anymore. And he was bashing me after in a car

on a video and he was like erin didn't even love her there's literally a video of me and erin together on his instagram right before like in the car on the way to a show yeah and he's like oh they weren't together for months and he hated her that's that's part of the triangulation thing sometimes it's not always with another woman sometimes it's always it could be with a different person where they have that that it's that third person that's they can always go to and like he'll run to his manager talk shit about you but then come to you and tell you how much he loves you and that kind of seems like that was Aaron's forte of like trying to turn people yeah on each other I guess he listened to me that day

when we were in the studio and I said hey I'm leaving and you're leaving with me I don't want to be around this and he listened to you he did actually I'm surprised yeah after a minute though it took me a minute to like kind of tell him hey like I'm not okay with this and we shouldn't be around this so how did he drown if if they're saying there was no water in his lungs was there water in his lungs see it says no water in his like i feel like the report never changed from the beginning of when he passed away like it never like it said the same thing like from the first day till like when it came out six months later or whatever, I read it and it said everything that was in his toxicology. How are you feeling whenever you found out that he passed away?

What was the emotions going through you? I don't know. I'm still like, I don't know. Like every minute I think about like it's crazy to always think about that. I couldn't imagine. How was his relationship with Prince? Did Prince know who he was? Well, he says Dada still because I know that when he had his time with Prince, like, in the office for his, like, the social worker, like, they took photos and stuff. And, like, he was always saying dada like after he

died and stuff like he'll still see tiktok and he'll say dada and pictures and then he goes dada does he is he old enough to know like daddy's not here anymore or have you told him that no i know me and my family talk about it we're like when are we going to start? Telling him that his daddy's not here. Yeah. So moving on, what does Melanie do now? Now that Aaron has passed away, what would take me into the next few weeks of just your life after Aaron passed away? Just trying to get back to focusing on getting my finances back in order and finding a job to take care of me and Prince, you know, something that will be stable for me and always maintain his legacy and bring awareness to

child exploitation. Yeah, like bring awareness to, you know, I know why they don't put kids in TV. Yeah, there's been a lot of documentaries about that. Yeah. And, like, also to. We were just talking about Jojo Siwa. Like, she's going through it right now. Oh, I forgot about her. Going from being a child star to now a woman who's trans.

She still identifies as a female, right. Uh, that I, you know, that's transitioning and like is into adulthood, but also, um, you know, as lesbian, is she lesbian is a lesbian now. So it's like, you know, these kids go through, you know, these childhoods of being in the spotlight. And then it's like once they turn a certain age and the, you know hollywood doesn't have use for them anymore they just kind of toss them to the side and it's like these kids are just having to pick up the pieces of you know to be an adult learn how to be an adult after they've lived such a fantasy life as children it's uh it's easier to

help kids with their mental illness at an early age than later you know what I mean so like I feel like you know 30 years ago they didn't have so many people talk about mental illness but now they people are recognizing it more they are but we just went through something with my 15 year old daughter and when we were looking for mental health for her, like, you know, any place to like help her with her mental health, it was impossible. I you would be floored at how much there is not resources to help children with mental health. So I think that's a great thing for you to get into. I would love to help you if you ever do get into that, because, you know, I don't know where to start with that. But I would love to help children have a place to go when they need to reset that doesn't medicate them you know like

that helps them heal their trauma yeah I heard well I found out that he was taking medications when he was a child wow I didn't know and he never me that. He told me he started when he was in like high school. I was told, I don't know if this is true though, because everything is always so back. But I was just told that he took it at it for stage fright because he was seven. So I couldn't imagine giving a seven year old a fucking Xanax, you know, or a Valium. What, you know, I was was I was told this information after he passed away that is crazy so what does Melanie do now like what does the future hold for you and Prince stay with my son and I'm just having fun you know like getting to go places

with him and just seeing him grow and he's gonna be like his daddy he's got his personality and his looks would you ever let him be in um the entertainment no i decided no and you know i was advised from people to not do that because i mean it just showed it's yeah too much has been done especially what you just fucking went through have you gone to any sort of therapy I did after he passed away you know with like prints and everything but um I feel like that's the next step it's like to go into real therapy yeah take this time for you and to just heal and what you just went through is not normal and it's very hurtful and you know if you don't take care of it now it will affect you later on in life so make sure that you do you know if therapy don't take care of it now it will affect you later on in life so

make sure that you do you know if therapy is not your thing just some form of healing even if you get into like meditation or just trying to work through the trauma that you've just been through because you know sitting here i've seen you kind of like choke up a couple times and like you you fight it and you push it back and that's so not good to do you got to let that shit out somewhere so yeah that's probably what happened to him is he just masked everything every day and then more and more bad stuff happened he's just masking it he's not taking care of the problem i'm sorry for all you've had to go through and i can't wait to see how you turn this into something that's, you know, I don't want to say productive, but something that's healing. And, um, you know, just, I can't wait to see what you do with Prince these next few years. Why don't you tell people

where they can find you? Um, miss Melanie Martin on Instagram or miss Melanie XX on TikTok, I think. Yeah, we love TikTok. The old tiki-taki. Thank you for sitting down with me. I really appreciate you. And I want you to check back in with me in the next couple of years and come sit down. And I want to hear about all the things you're doing. Yes, I would like that.

Sorry. I'm like. No, you're good. She's like, yes, bitch. We just had the most emotional conversation. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Don't Blonde.

I will see you guys next week. Bye.