Dumb Blonde - Mistress Neena: BDSM, Kink, and a Bath of Buttery Noodles

Episode Date: August 18, 2021

Mistress Neena De Ville returns to the show to talk about her work in BDSM, where she creates experiences that give people the thrill of a lifetime beyond their wildest dreams. She and Bunnie talk about everything from lube to puppy play, their personal kinks, and what really happens at a Dom/sub dungeon party. Neena also talks about her recent move to Miami and how her world is a no shame space.  "His face is my throne now." - Neena  "Trust the gut. Always." - Neena  "I think I would make someone slither. Slither worm." - Bunnie Bunnie: www.dumbblondeunrated.com Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com Mistress Neena: Web | IG  adamandeve.com Discount code: BUNNIE Offer: 50% Off 1 Item and Free Shipping in the US & Canada *certain exclusions applySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox so get up there and throw throw throw them dollars dude that is fucking iconic what's up you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another episode of dumb blonde i have a returning guest today that i am so happy that she's here she literally was on the podcast when it first started and i remember when she came on i was so nervous because it was like one of my first like interviews and you were just so sweet we met up in New York City and you told me all about your dominatrix lifestyle I think you even showed me how to crack a whip did I I don't even remember I don't remember she's our resident dominatrix mistress Nina is back in the house what's up mama hey thank you for having me on again. Dude it's so good to

see you. It's last time I saw her was in August of 2019. God yeah like two years ago. That's crazy right? Like how the time fucking flies. Yeah. So for people who don't know who you are why don't you fill them in on who you are? Okay so I'm a professional dominatrix, a.k.a. a BDSM experiential architect. Yes. Which is what I call myself on social media so they don't kick my ass off. Dude, social media is a fucking nightmare. They just have it out for us. They have it out for us.

My girl who has a 10 million, she had 10 million on her account, lost it today. Today. Like, fucking heartbreak dude insane right they just have there's I don't want to I don't want to get into it it makes my blood boil let's get we'll talk about that later but let's get back into who you are so so yeah so the last time we spoke I had been doming for about two years and at that point like I was I was re-listening to the podcast and I was like oh my god I was so like timid and me too I was nervous too thoughening to the podcast and I was like, oh my God, I was so like timid. Me too. I was nervous too though.

Like, you know, and I feel like now we get to come revisit the relationship and like you've grown. So you're in Miami now. I'm in Miami now. Yeah. Okay. How do you go from New York to Miami? My boyfriend.

She's like very easily. Very easily, especially during the pandemic. I mean, I'm a New Yorker through and through. Like I grew up there. Were you born there? Born in Brooklyn. Okay. Born and raised, baby.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then I moved to London for a while. I think I mentioned that last time. Moved back. And then I met my boyfriend. He's from Jersey.

And he just, he's not a New Yorker. Right. Like he fucking hated it. Right. There's some people who like, they love how fast paced it is. And he he loves certain aspects and then covet hit and he was like get me the fuck out well he's from jersey so you would think that he would be a jersey's more laid back for sure and rural it's rural right but you know like new york is literally right over the bridge right yeah i mean he went into the city sometimes but he wanted to move to california and so i was like i can't fucking do that so i will do miami yeah miami is dope yeah i love it

here what is it sin city no that's that's that's vegas yeah you don't want you don't want to live in vegas either magic city is atlantic city atlanta right oh my god i'm really not representing it's okay but you're not from here so who cares um so you guys decided to move here during the pandemic yeah what was there like was the dom scene just well explain to me the relationship with you and your boyfriend because last time you were on you guys didn't really talk about it it was more like hush hush so let me hear about this how long have you guys been is it a relationship yeah yeah he's my boyfriend okay um he's also my submissive oh my god okay yeah we definitely have a ds dynamic going on which means dominant submissive okay yes capital d lowercase s how does that work

does that get exhausting like every day or okay well i say it's a ds relationship but it's ds in the bedroom and there's like flirtiness around it. But like he very much has his own opinions, makes his own decisions. Right, right, right. Sometimes I wish he didn't have so many opinions. You're like, shut up, submissive. Yeah. I don't think you're supposed to follow what I want.

Yeah. No, it's like, it's for the most part, a pretty normal relationship. But the thing that ties us together and is a really strong rock and like it keeps us really connected is our interest in kink right it's like a strong running theme throughout the relationship you know okay when you say interesting kink because a lot of people especially like me i'm learning about it and naive to it what does that entail uh kink yeah like what is like your guys's kink

uh kink yeah like what is like your guys's kink she's like all of it no so he's actually we definitely have very specific kinds of play like when i when i dom professionally i cater to a lot of different things when you say professionally you mean like somebody's paying you for your services exactly i just want to clarify with everybody else yes somebody's paying for my services. In my personal relationship, like, he definitely, I mean, I guess I'll just talk about what he's into. Okay. So he's very much into objectification and being, like, put to use to make me happy. Okay.

Whether it, and a lot of the times it's sexually, like, you know, with him, I sleep with him, I don't sleep with my clients. So with him, it him it's very like he likes to be a table for me he likes to be a footrest he likes to give me a massage to make me feel good right so he's all about like um acts of service kind of yeah but objectification is very it's more specifically like almost turning him into like a an object of it's like no i get it yeah i'll like sit on his face and his face is my throne now right what a useful face yes and do you say that to him yeah oh my god i'm gonna say that to jay i'm totally gonna steal that oh such a good throne such a good such a good face yeah i love that and that like that he'll that'll make his

day yeah he loves that we also do a little bit of like he's i call him my dog because he's like a really energetic puppy sometimes so we do some puppy play do you put him on a leash and stuff oh yeah yeah yeah does he walk around like a dog you mean like crawler yeah like is that his thing like sometimes because i've seen like some dom? Yeah, like is that his thing? Sometimes, yeah. Because I've seen like some doms do that. Like, you know, they walk their, and they have like the things over their heads and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, I think that our staples in our relationship

are like a collar, a leash, a crop. Just because it's very dom-y. It's more just like the look of it. He's not into pain at all. For him, it's very psychological and very like, you like you know he just he loves ass worship like every other right every other man you worshiping his ass or the vice okay she's like uh no no no no and my face does not go anywhere near there listen some people are i've licked a few assholes in my life like i said everyone has yeah for sure so said, everyone has what they're into.

So what can I ask what you're into? Like, what do you? OK. I mean, I love everything that him and I do. But I mean, I think I talked about splashing last time. Yes. And I actually splashed. Did you?

With the cake, right? That's what the cake. Oh, yeah, that's right. You did. Yeah, I did for OnlyFans, for my OnlyFans. And it was crazy. It was weird. But people were into it. That was their thing.

Did it feel weird? Did it get all over everything? Well, so this cake was frozen. We didn't know until I sat in it, and it was so hard. But it was exhilarating at the same time. It was like, I'm doing something that I would never have been allowed to do, even growing up as a child. Your parents are like, don't put your hands in the the cake but here's my whole ass in a cake you know don't

don't ruin the pretty yeah the aesthetic okay so you talked about splashing so recently listen I have a lot of different things that I'm interested in I think last time as well like I'm interested in things that are taboo like um is there any new things that have popped up? For some reason, I just can't get out of my head the idea of like a kiddie pool full of buttery spaghetti. And just like, it's not sexual for me per se. It's more like a sensational thing. Or like fantasy. Well, yeah, it's more just like I feel like the sensation of buttery noodles would be really good.

And like sexual. It would be very sexy. It would be a sexy visual. Right. And like doing that with I think for me splashing with another woman is really sexy. Yeah. I don't know. What else am I into?

I went to a lot of different things. What do you guys do specifically with each other? We mostly, mostly kind of what I was talking about before, sort of like some puppy play and sort of objectification. And that's, yeah, that's sort of our main thing. But I actually, last time I said that I don't like, that I don't switch. And since then I've sort of been exploring, not fully switching necessarily. Let's explain what switch is for the new,

the new listeners. Cause I know a lot of people are new here. So they're probably like, what the hell switch mean? Yes. Okay. So there's like people who are dominant, people who are submissive and then people who do both.

Yeah. I think I could be a switch hitter for sure. Yeah, definitely. Totally. I think that most people are, hitter for sure. Yeah, definitely. Totally. I think that most people are, have some level of switch in them. Um, but so it's not just dominant and submissive though. There's also topping and bottoming. So these are other two terms which

often get confused. So, so topping and bottoming would be person who's on top and bottoming would be the person who's on the bottom. Kind of like in in the in the gay world like that's very much what it is right and in the kink world topping and bottoming is like if you're if somebody's spanking me i'm the bottom and the person who's spanking me is the top okay but i don't necessarily need to be submitting to them like submitting to someone means that you're kind of giving up all control and you're doing it to please them as much as you're doing it for yourself. And so I actually like to bottom, I don't really like to submit. So like I like to bottom for very specific things, right. Which I like to be, I like spanking actually. Like I really love like really,

even a naughty girl. Yeah. Well for me it's not even the verbal, it's like pure sensation oh you just like the tingly of just like a tinge of pain yeah like you don't really need to say shit like you can keep your mouth shut yeah just beat me beat my ass i want to see handprints yeah well there are different kind of sensations there are stingy sensations which are way more kind of topical and i don't know you can imagine what stinging right yeah and then 30 is deeper it's almost like a deep tissue massage so that would be like a heavier yeah it's like a it and different impact instruments um you know like there are whips there are uh floggers like a whip is a single tail and that's really stingy right flogger usually has multiple tails and depending on the material it can be stingy or

thuddy or both and then something like a i don't know uh i have this baton that's really padded and that's just pure thud so it's like thick and it's just like yeah it's kind of soft got like has like some weight to it right yeah is it the sound effects too that are simulating yeah i think so yeah for sure so moving to miami how has that affected your professional dumb situation um is there a lot of is there a market for that out here there is a market for it out here you know it's interesting there are way more people i think in fort lauderdale and yeah like delray, I guess. The rich areas.

Yeah, I guess so. And I'm trying to set up shop in Miami proper because there actually isn't, there are no dungeons in Miami. Wow. At all. Wow. If you look at New York, I mean, if you know where to look. Yeah. New York is like, there's so many doms.

Yeah. There's so many dungeons. It's just a different life out there. And you have to think in New York, there's so many like CEOs, rich people who want to be dominated, you know, but here,

I mean, a lot of people have moved down here and a lot of people come down here to, for tax reasons. You know what I mean? There's a market. Yeah. They're in the market for a fresh dom. No.

And the doms are down here are amazing yeah i've got gotten to know some of them um do you guys just like instantly bond together like hey i'm a dom you're a dom let's be friends yeah it's definitely i mean obviously not everyone gets along but i whenever i move whenever i go anywhere so i go on tour a lot especially now since i'm kind of just setting up in flor. When you say tour, that means you go visit different cities. Different cities, exactly. I used to tour when I was an escort. It was fun.

It is fun. It's also exhausting, though. Very exhausting. Because you're working. You're literally in hotel rooms doing what you got to do or dungeons in your case. You know, you're there. It's a lot of energy. You're entertaining.

Were there ever any, like, I don't want to say turf wars but like were did you ever have issues with other escorts who felt like you were kind of in their territory on their territory um no the only time that ever happened to me was whenever i moved to nashville and i had a couple of the girls email me and they were just like you're not welcome here blah blah blah and i was just like bitch I'm gonna take all your money do you want to have that attitude and you don't want to be oh sorry I'm so sorry I'm like if you don't want to be girl gang we then it's instant competition but then I had other girls email me sorry about that I had other girls email me and they wanted to be friends because I feel like if you if you guys are in the same industry it's so much better to band together yeah absolutely then you know i would it's safer too i mean you could i mean listen if you don't think that we

all talk about clients like oh yeah like we all know what's going on yes exactly i would have and i actually did when i was in the industry i would have so many girls reach out to me and be like hey i'm about to see so and so how do you feel about him? And I would always, we give like reviews on clients that we saw. And you know, sometimes I'd be like, hell no, don't see that dude. Or other times I'd be like, he's amazing. He'll you'll get, I got this much out of him. Try to get more. It's a really important part of our industry. I think it's like us supporting each other and giving each other heads up. And it has saved me from some pretty like shitty situation or like potentially shitty situation yeah have you ever had a scary situation happen so I did have a pretty scary experience when I first started and I didn't

really know how to advocate for myself or say no it was a really weird situation I had a guy who basically like I didn't even I didn't even have a dungeon to work on i met him at this party he said oh i want to submit to you and i know where we can play and i was like oh great well you can show me the dungeon and then maybe show me how to use some of the stuff in the dungeon because he actually he was a switch okay so we set up a session and um basically halfway through the session he switched on me. Like I asked him to show me how some of this stuff works but I didn't want him to show it on me. Right. Show it to me like on me. And so I ended up

with like my hands bound. Oh no. And like I was saying no. But he thought it was part of the act? I don't know. No. He just He was abusing the situation. He was abusing the situation. Thankfully I knew I wasn't in serious danger because like right outside of the door, there was another mistress.

Right. But for some reason, I was so new to the scene and I didn't want to like make a scene that I just kept quiet. Aw. But that sucks that you have to feel like that, you know, that you can't have a voice because you don't want to be known as like the troublemaker, the newbie that's coming in to cause trouble. I mean, that's,

I think the biggest thing I learned as a dom was how to say no to people just to be like, no, this is not what I want. You know, put your foot down. And that is something that as women, I think a lot of women have trouble with.

A lot of people have trouble with, but women in particular, like we are kind of just our boundaries are always crossed and we always either have to accept it or and if you speak up for yourself then you're a bitch yeah exactly and it's really frustrating and i always had a lot of trouble with it you never want to disappoint people yeah you also don't want to like put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation by insulting the wrong person anyway thankfully nothing serious happened but it was um yeah learning experience yeah and also it was the one time that i didn't trust my gut oh that yep i that anytime i've ever done that i've

always been fucked yeah always trust the gut always you actually changed my mind about dominatrix um i was telling Mo about it cause Mo's actually really interested in the lifestyle. Um, yeah, for sure. Um, I always thought that you guys had to be like aggressive and, you know, just like yell and scream and do as I say, not as I do type of situation. And when you came in, you were just so calm and just like sexy about it and I was like dude that's so hot because normally when people think about dominatrix they think about crack and whips and stuff like that um do you feel like being a dom has helped you with your sensuality

uh yeah yes or were you always just like super sensual? I've always been pretty sensual. Yeah. I think if anything, it has just informed how I dom, like who I am as a person. I think that there is sort of like, yeah, that is very much who I am. I like to seduce consent, consistently seduce consent. Right. And that's how I sort of like push my clients and push them. And I don't want to say push boundaries because I never will step over boundaries. But that's another question. So for all the new people who are here and you know, you guys can always go back to Nina's episode. It's episode 11. I always keep forgetting that episode 11. You can listen

to a lot of this too, but what is it it actually your i don't want to say job title requirements to be a dom but what is it that you do as a dom like your services yeah so i'm i'm i've kind of created the term the pdsm experiential architect because that's what it is i'm basically creating a little world for me and this other person. And I'm the designer. I am the actress. I am, yeah, I'm bringing somebody into a little world and hoping to create a world where the rest of the world melts away.

Right. And it's very much tailored to whatever that person is interested in. Obviously, I have things that I'm very interested in as well. And I like to find the overlap that's sort of where we play is like my interests and their interests in the overlap right um but I deal with fetishes um I deal with power dynamics like do you do the I think I asked you this before but do you do the financial? I do. That's something that would interest me. Give me all your money.

Let's just fucking not even bullshit. Yeah. I definitely think money, no matter what, money is an important part of the power dynamic. Money is the motive behind everything that we're doing. Yeah, a lot of things. I think that anybody who thinks that a pro dom is being fake because it's all about money, it's like, no, it just is part of the service service and it's also part of the power dynamic like yeah there is an unattainability and to me like somebody like yeah okay so so with financial domination somebody who is sending me their money it's an act of service for some people it's humiliation but

the way that i look at it is it's an act of service right it's it's a way to um make my life better and to lift me up and put me on a pedestal and it just sort of adds to that power dynamic absolutely yeah um so when you moved from New York to Miami have you found it hard to kind of find your place out here oh my god no really well no it's for it's for different reasons so I I don't have a driver's license I'm a New Yorker right yeah a lot of you guys don't have licenses I'm it's the yeah trying to get around for me is like a whole thing I'm so used to in new york like i have my service subs which is like service submissive i'll have like them chauffeur me around yeah i haven't like quite found a service sub in miami

yet anybody watching we need service subs in miami service subs in miami just nina needs you yes i've got i've got positions open to clean my toilet to clean my house to drive me around did you have people like that in new New York that just came and just did whatever you wanted and like pretty much was just like hey I need a ride here you're gonna take me here hey you're gonna come and clean my house today yeah and a lot of the times the the the people that were doing service for me some of them they weren't actually sessioning with me and so for the one like I'm actually very high protocol when it comes to service. And I learned this about myself. High protocol means that I have a very specific way

I like things. Right. And if you're not going to session with me, because to me, that's how you, it's, there's the financial aspect of that, right? Like giving back to me and my life and what's playing. Um, I have very strict ways that I do things. Like you are here to clean. You are not here to jerk off in the bathroom with pictures of me or whatever. That's not what it's about. So they get off on servicing you, like coming and cleaning your house and stuff like that? Yeah. There are are different so some people do but it's it's it's a different kind of getting off okay there's sort of the um there's a heart high that people can get you know like when you do a good deed for someone else it makes you feel good um it's like if you're in a

relationship and you cook and clean for your significant other it makes you feel good and warm whatever so there's that side of it okay um and then with the control i mean if i tell my service sub you are not allowed to make eye contact with me for the next three hours you are not allowed to be taller than three feet you need to you need you are you have to be this this short does that mean that they crawl they crawl or you know anytime i'm in the room you always need to be shorter than than me have you ever made somebody slither i think i would just i think i would make somebody slither oh you'd be good at that like just slither you fucking pansy worm just just wriggle on the

ground for me can you do that is that like is that something you can listen i could be a dom i've never made my service sub do that you gotta do it now they wouldn't get very much done if they were just riding around on the ground i've made i mean i've made like foot subs do it because they're kind of already on the ground so i don't know i call someone oh you foot worm yeah just you know beneath my feet you're like the dirt or whatever. Do you ever crack up laughing while you're doing this? Absolutely.

I would literally have to probably just start laughing, just be an evil witch while I'm doing it. These people would probably be like, she's fucking insane. Don't ever book a session with her because all she does is laugh the entire time. Well, that's the best thing about humiliation is like, with humiliation, they're there to entertain me. And if you're not doing something that makes me laugh to entertain me like i don't that's not the kind of humiliation that i like yeah and i've come up with some pretty evil fun evil what i need to hear like

one of your wildest stories has anything happened in the two years that i haven't seen you that i must know about okay well something really exciting happened in my personal life. Okay. Okay. This actually has to do with one of my interests. Okay. I'm really into cuckolding. Oh, okay. And explain what cuckolding is so that people at home know what it is. Yeah. So cuckolding is when you deny someone else sex with you and you kind of like dangle it in front of their face. And they're not allowed to ejaculate or anything, right? Um, or can they,

it kind of depends on the person. It's, I always thought it was, they had, they weren't allowed to, um, come or something that is just orgasm control, which is often mixed in.

So, um, but it's not just denying someone something. It's, it's, it's the basically getting fucked in front of them or telling them about having intercourse and sex with someone else. And denying it from them and sort of, yeah. But so basically.

Is your boyfriend into that? Well, no. Okay. But he has just grown so much in the past few years. Like our relationship has really blossomed and he has grown so much more. He's way more comfortable with this lifestyle. We've been beginning to explore more. Well, you had to teach him.

You had to train him. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. And it takes time. But I have also learned a lot as well. And I've grown a lot and learned how to handle my jealousy and give. It's a give and take, right?

Right. Totally. And I've grown a lot and learned how to handle my jealousy and give. It's a give and take, right? Right. Totally. Anyway, so I had this sub who he's a client, but like he he he was bottoming for me for a performance that I did recently. And basically he didn't he couldn't go back to where he lived. He we decided to invite him to come stay with us at the hotel okay and i had been edging my boyfriend for three days which means that i didn't let him come for three days okay so that's what it's called edging when you don't well edging is like you get like they jerk off

to the point of coming okay but then they're not allowed to don't you get like massive blue balls doing that i don't care i don't. I don't think that's real. I think blue balls are made up by men to try to convince women to make them, like, yeah, help them ejaculate. That is hilarious. I mean, listen, I don't know. I'm not a guy. We don't have balls. We're just speculating.

Yeah, exactly. But, so, yeah, my boyfriend, I'd been telling him to edge so i was like all right on day one you edge once on day two you edge twice and by day three i think you'd edge three times and like he starts going crazy at that point like i walk into a room he immediately gets hard like poor baby yeah and then yeah i like it that way yeah like so you're ready whenever i want you to be ready and i deny you until I want you. Is it hard for you to deny him? Yeah, sometimes.

Because it's like so hot that he just wants you that bad. Yeah. He's so sexy, too. Aw, I love that. So you invited this guy to come stay with you. Yeah, just after this performance. And we went to this kink party. I invited him to stay with us. She says it so casually.

Just, we went to this kink party. It's called Bound with us. She says it so casually. Just, we went to this kink party. It's called Bound. It's in New York. It's amazing, by the way. And my boyfriend was like, yeah, I don't know. Like, maybe he can come stay with us. But only if he's like, if he can sleep on the floor. And I was like, yeah, of course he's going to sleep on the floor.

Like, he's not allowed in the bed. At all. So does your boyfriend, is he bi also? He's not bi. Okay. And so that was the thing that was so amazing about this experience was like, he's never really been interested in cuckolding or having another guy really involved. But because he was just so, like, he was not desperate, but he had been denied for so long.

Right, right. He started having these ideas. Yeah. It's amazing. He would have never had before you need to do this more often oh we found the secret sauce getting what i want um and it's similar to chastity it's basically like chastity without the cage so chastity is yeah a chastity cage is like a metal device you put on somebody's cock and you lock it up yep you don't hold the key hold the key

i was gonna say throw away the key. Don't throw away the key. You've got to let them out sometimes. Yeah. But so my boyfriend was like, I don't know, maybe we can guck hold him. I was like, okay. I wanted to do this forever. And so we got back from this party and, like, of course,

my boyfriend's immediately hard just because he'd been denied for so long. And I put this guy in the corner and he's in a chastity cage. The guy is. Yeah. like of course my boyfriend's immediately hard just because he'd been denied for so long and i put this i put this guy in the corner and he's in a chastity cage the guy is yeah my sub is my boyfriend's also submissive but they're basically like my barbie dolls right right it's like i am controlling the whole situation right i'm telling my boyfriend how i want him to fuck me how i want him to please me while i'm looking this other person in the face right and saying you're not allowed to have me yeah don't you dare you know oh don't don't look at me now you turned on is anybody else touching themselves under the table because I am

it was it was super hot no that is fucking really hot and so how did it what happened I need more details so your boyfriend ended up banging you and the dude had to watch. Yeah. And then we had ordered pizza. And so the pizza came. And so I sent myself down to get the pizza. That is hilarious. Actually, he missed the finale.

Kind of. My boyfriend came like while he was. I can't even believe he was able to bang you like and didn't like instantly nut the minute you guys started. No, no. He's good. He's well trained. Oh, good. But the pizza came and I pulled the condom off my boyfriend.

And I just poured it on my sub's piece of pizza. I was like, here, you can have this piece. And did he eat it? Yeah. He has to eat it. She said, yeah, bitch. Like that. Of course.

I love that. He's an obedient one. I wouldn't have allowed him in this situation so intimately into my life. Has he been around for a while? He has been. And the only reason why he's gotten this far and gotten so many privileges, like being able to perform with me and meeting my boyfriend, is because he never asks for anything.

Aw. He will do whatever. Yeah. Whatever I tell him to do. I love that. And he's scared of me. I love that. That is awesome, dude.

Do you get a lot of loyal subs or do you get the ones that are like wishy-washy? It's a mixture. Yeah. I'm so lucky to have, I call it my stable. I have a great stable. I've got my collared sub, Robert, who is like amazing and adorable. He's very service oriented. And Robert and my boyfriend get

along well. Oh, good. Um, I love that your boyfriend's in on it too. Yeah. This is awesome. I mean, at this point you have, you know, it's a lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. But it's really cool. Like I think of Robert as like, he's like a pet, you know, he's like, I adore him and he brings so much joy to my life and I care for him and we we have you know it's it's a cool relationship I know it's weird to talk about a person like a pet but it's no but it's your lifestyle yeah it's a lifestyle do you ever catch yourself like maybe catching feelings for your subs because they have been in your life for so long and they because I know like whenever I had sugar daddies back in the day fucking it was hard to not I don't want to say um fall in love with them

because you're never in love with them but it's hard to not have like look at them almost like a father figure yeah like thank you for what you have done for me and like all that you've given me you know i have a lot of empathy for my subs and i definitely give a lot and can develop deep relationships relationships with them but my relationship with my partner is so strong strong he was actually a client right so um so yeah I mean of course I've fallen in love with a client before but it's very situational like I'm very loyal very very loyal and I would never jeopardize that jeopardize that absolutely that. Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure.

Because I have it so good. Yeah. I definitely have a lot to give and a lot of, I can get attached to subs simply because they are, you know, we have great chemistry, but it's so different. Right. It's a very different kind of relationship. Right, I get it. It's just like an escort and a trick relationship. I totally understand that but even like even with the sugar daddy situation it's like you love them but there's always that wall there like you know that you can't cross that

that boundary i think it's it's more like no i actually get very involved with my sub lives do you like i can and so it's more like i'm trying to, I get, what's the word? I'm invested in making their lives better. Okay. And that's how I get invested. Okay. It's not like a, it's not just turning a trick or, or obviously with some people it is. Right. And there is, there are boundaries, but a lot of the times it's like, I will put in

the extra times with certain people to make sure that they're emotionally taken care of and okay um do you feel that people that are in this um kink is that what it's called like that you're kink um do you feel like people that are in this kink are they a little bit more mentally fragile because of what they're looking for in the kink world. Yeah. I don't know if I'm using the right terminology. I always want to be respectful. There's so much terminology.

I know. I can't keep. Dude, everything is like there's, especially now, like everything has a label and it's like it's so hard to decipher which one goes where. So I always want to respect everybody's thing that they have going on. Yeah, totally.

Uh, I'll, I'll correct you. Yeah. I like it. Um, are people more fragile? I don't know.

I don't think so. I think that the only reason why people might hide things are fragile. I like, because do you feel like it? Okay. I guess we're not, let me rephrase that because this type of kink is so, um, taboo, I guess now still, even like though Dom dominatrix has been around forever, it, it's still like

people don't, it's still hush hush. Whereas like escorts and you know, hose, it's literally mainstream because of rap music, you know? Um, do you feel like people are in kind of like a different mental state because they are looking to be dominated it's not about being dominated it's about the shame that comes with right like the things that they that are viewed as abnormal right so i wouldn't say that you know sorry the you know people wanting to be dominated means that they are emotionally fragile i think it know, people wanting to be dominated means that they are emotionally fragile.

I think it's that people want to be dominated because it's fun. Right. And they hide it and they end up having regrets or they end up feeling anxious about it or hiding it from people because of the stigma around it. And one of the biggest things that I try to break through is like shame with my clients. Like I'm trying to create a space where you are not judged, where you can say, I mean, you can't say whatever you want, but like, you know, you can say what I approve of. I'm not going to judge you, you know, we can have an open conversation about it. Why do you feel like there is such a stigma around dominatrix and submissives and stuff like that? dominatrix and submissives and stuff like that i don't know i for looking being on the inside looking out it doesn't make any sense to me right like i feel like i'm a wizard and everyone else

are muggles i mean i'm like don't you all want like a wand i don't understand no i feel like you're so cutting edge like really i don't understand why they haven't even like done a netflix special on you. It's so interesting. The lifestyle. It's actually pretty big. I think more people have kinks and finishes than. Oh, tons. So many people.

And there's so many different ones. There's so many different kinds. Yeah. It's insane. It's endless. Yeah. So you said something new happened in your personal life. Are we allowed to talk about it?

Something. Oh, that was what I was talking about. Oh, OK. OK, that. OK. your personal life are we allowed to talk about it something oh that was what i was talking oh okay okay that okay which for me like cuckolding is like has been talked about before and i guess like people have heard of it yeah but for me for you in my relationship it was exciting yeah because i'd wanted to do it for so long so when you're going on tour what cities are you going to are you going back to new york are you going like just every, why haven't you come to Nashville? I feel like it would be big in Nashville.

I'm only coming to Nashville when you're there. Dude, come on. Oh my God. I would love to introduce you to my husband too. Jay will love you to death. Dude, you can come anytime. Like we're always there. Yeah, for sure.

Now I'm in New York a lot because I have a lot of regulars there. I've got my personal sub, my college sub. Yeah. And then I go to Boston a lot. And Boston, you wouldn't really expect it, but it's so... The places that are the most conservative... Yeah. Are conservative in a way that's sort of like repressed.

Like, it's super waspy, right? Right. I love that word, waspy. Waspy. Yeah. Like, buttoned up. Everyone went to Harvard. Oh yeah.

You know, and, and they're rich. Those motherfuckers out there are rich. Yeah. There's good. There's good. I had a couple of clients out there.

Yeah, but it's Frank. Hey Frank. Hey Frank. I could actually probably plug you in. Do you have Frank too? Yeah. He just got out of prison.

Shit. Well, I'm telling you, you dude i gotta introduce you to frank you he will love you oh my god amazing um so what can we expect from mistress nina in this in this next year in the next year well i'm trying to set up a space here yes i don't want to talk about it too much yeah it's like you don't want somebody to steal the well no it's i'm like i'm afraid if i talk about it it's not gonna happen right it's like you don't want somebody to steal the well no it's i'm like i'm afraid if i talk about it it's not gonna happen right it's like so delicate right the goal is to set up a

play space in miami um and it can be like a photo studio but also have it be a place where people can kind of rent out like if you're a couple you can rent it out and kind of play there and stay there for a night or two also experience miami um but then it's also a place for doms to come and stay and right and play so it's a play space slash like apartment is it like a dungeon is it what is exactly as a dungeon when you say that's a play space okay okay yeah a dungeon and a play space are the same thing it's just i say play space because i think it's a little bit more contemporary yeah dungeon no i just wanted to make sure that it was like it's the same thing okay dungeons like or i mean there are very dungeony dungeons in new york and all around oh i could imagine oh my god there's one called pandora's box which like is

very like they have different themed rooms which is really fun they've got like a wrestling room yeah and they've got like i would room. I would like to do that. The wrestling room. That would be fun. Yeah. I would break my fucking neck, but not self go out fucking having a blast. Oh, it's a huge industry. I actually don't really do wrestling.

No, I've seen like guys like to get their head squeezed in between thighs and stuff like that. For sure. How does somebody pick up that kink? Skull crusher. Like, is that something that comes from childhood? Not that I'm shaming it. I'm just asking, like, you know, how do you figure out that that's what you like?

With anything you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Well, some people it's from childhood. Like, there are certain, I don't know. Yeah. With some people, it's just always been there. Yeah.

My boyfriend, his fetishes and his kinks have just kind of always been what he's been interested in right like he doesn't he doesn't like vanilla sex there always has to be a power dynamic um and i'm kind of the same way other people end up just exploring later on i guess i'm the same way too i like to be dominated in bed i do have a kink though you guys what's your game you guys ready to hear this and i never realized it was a kink until after we had met and you had told me you know like kinks can be pretty much anything i love oiled up sex i was just gonna say you were saying wrestling i was like dude oiled up though i love like when i'm watching porn they i can't watch dry sex it

irritates me seeing dry bodies i'm like that looks like it hurts like i want to see you lubed up and shiny that's amazing dude bitches look so hot when they're lubed up i don't even care about the dudes like bitches just like so just everything looks so gleamy i remember one time i was having sex with this dude and i was so shit face i went in my bathroom and fucking i always used to have a bottle bottles of baby oil poured baby oil all over myself all over him all over my bed he's like man he's like what the fuck are you doing I'm like just fuck me and he was like the next morning we woke up and he's like that was the hottest thing I've ever seen in my life and when you're into it like you're into it yeah everyone can feel that no totally so that that's my kink guys I think you guys have heard

me talk about that before but yeah totally my another one of mine are is um i mean i say bimbification but i used to always like imagine what i would look like and like having sex with a woman who has like really big fake boobs oh yeah really quite similar to here yeah baby these see these are real now oh last time i yep last time i saw you i had my fake boobs and yeah i had my implants taken out. You don't have any implants in there? No implants. These are my natural. They're just swollen right now. They still look amazing.

My friend actually has that same exact kink. She loves just big, fake boobies. And then oil them up. Yeah, oh, God, all of it. You know, I have a girl coming on the podcast. What's her name? Mary XO. And she's into that bimbo body modification.

I'll have to send you her Instagram so that you guys can link. She's out here. She'll be out here. Yeah. Yeah, totally. So I'll link you guys. I like used to imagine what it would be like.

So it was, I liked women with bodies like that, but then I also would like imagine what my body would look like, like that. Beautiful. I mean, you're beautiful now. So I did get a boob job since then.

Did you? They're very, they're very small. Can I see him? I want to see him. I don't know. This is on Patreon. So perfect. Those are beautiful. Thanks. I love those. Thank you. How was it? So I had such a great surgeon. Oh, good. Um, but I, they're perfect. They fit your body so good. Well, for having a bonification fetish, I kept it very realistic yeah well that's good though because i went too big and so i ended up having like scar tissue and just your boobs get bigger as you age too back too right i am built like a fucking linebacker i never had back problems everybody always says that and i'm like i never had back problems but what happens is like the

scar tissue just starts building your tits more and more and mine went from a d to a double d to an e like it was bad they were huge did it like encapsulate so my implant folded inside my left boob and scar tissue the size of like a lobster claw like grew in between it so i was in surgery mimi was there i was in surgery for like an hour more of them cutting out all the scar tissue. And even like I can still feel where they cut the scar tissue out. Yeah. Yeah. So it was no fun.

Yeah. There's always a risk attached with surgery. Totally. Like half my boob is still kind of numb. Oh, yeah. It'll take a minute. When did you get them done? Like almost a year ago.

Like nine months ago. Yeah. So I got mine removed in November of 2019. Right. And I'm still numb on my left side right here yeah everything's gonna reattach for beauty i know it's crazy and everybody's like just love yourself but then everybody else on online is like tells you what to do with yourself so it's like how how can we love ourselves when you guys are telling us 20 000 different things i also think that like my mom was convinced for a really long time. She's very anti-surgery, very anti and Botox, whatever.

But she was convinced that if you have anything done, like you hate yourself. And like, I actually never, I don't hate myself at all. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with enhancing yourself. I have people come for me all day long, especially on TikTok. Oh, you're fake. If you were really happy with yourself, you wouldn't get work done. And it's like,

no, I'm investing in myself. You know, like there's nothing wrong with being proud of your body and enhancing things that you want because you like the way a certain aesthetic looks. Yes. Yeah, totally.

So if somebody wants to book with you, how would they do that? So you can reach out to me via my website, respectfully. Listen to her. Listen. And I think I said last time, book with you how would they do that so you can reach out to me via my website respectfully listen to her listen and i think i said last time like always do your research when reaching out to a dom you know go on their twitter go on their instagram but uh to actually book you can go to my website it's www.missneenaI-L-L-E.com. So MissNinaDeville.com.

And where else can they find you? Like Twitter, Instagram, all those places. Twitter, Instagram. Hopefully I'll be up for a little while longer. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, Instagram is. It's crazy.

Even Twitter, honestly. Really? Oh, yes. I know so many people have gotten shut down there. I don't understand how there's straight up porn on Twitter. They eventually end up getting shadow banned and like shut down. That's insane. Yeah, I know.

But it is what it is. Yeah. Fucking the world is oppressing us sex workers. But we're still thriving. Sex work is literally the oldest fucking trade. It's not going anywhere. At all. Like we're here to stay, motherfuckers.

We just need a payment processor. Yeah, that believes in us. That believes in us. and doesn't charge us a high interest rate to fucking process those things come on uh yeah so my instagram and my twitter is at mistress underscore nina and it's n-e-n-a yay so nina i'm gonna have you come, but not in two years. Okay. Okay. Like we have to make a deal. Like at least six, six, six months to a year. We'll do that, but not two years. And if anyone ever has any questions and you want to collect some questions and ask me, like, you're always welcome.

Okay, cool. Then we'll do that next time that you come on for sure. Yay. Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of dumb blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.