Dumb Blonde - Pumpkin and Alana Part 1: Addiction, Abuse, and Sticking Together

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

In Part 1 of this double episode, Bunnie welcomes two beautiful strong women, Lauryn aka "Pumpkin" and Alana "Honey Boo Boo" Thompson. The two have gone through it all together, from trailer park upbringings to the pageant world, then being launched into reality fame with family secrets that almost tore their hearts apart. In this episode, they share what life was like even before the cameras were around, and open up about their real experiences with Mama June, Geno, and Sugar Bear, and how they are slowly learning to build a team they trust.    Bunnie: Website    Pumpkin: IG    Alana: IG    Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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all right gentlemen coming to main stage next this is bunny get up there she's got a tornado of titties coming your way get those dollar bills ready she's got an ass that shakes like michael j fox so get up there and throw throw throw them dollars dude that is fucking iconic what's up you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today i've got some icons in the building if you don't know who these two are you guys are living under a fucking rock pumpkin and alana what's up baby how are you guys doing good doing good josh is here too he's just sitting off to the side staring at chachi right now yeah they're having a stare off right now what are you guys doing in nashville you guys just

came to see me or do you guys come here often or what's the deal with that? This is literally our second time, I think. Wow. We literally come just for you. Just for you. I love that. Thank you guys so much. I'm so happy to have you guys here because, you know, I feel like you guys live your lives literally under a microscope.

We were just talking about that and you guys are followed around by cameras 24-7 and I feel like you don't ever really get the chance to just sit down and be off the record even though we're kind of on the record you don't get to just sit down and just kind of tell your full story in one spot you know right so that's what i want to do with you guys today i want to talk about i want to start from like before the cameras were even around where were you guys you know what's the age difference between you guys so lana's 17 i'm 22 okay gotcha so not that big of an age difference really not i think well i never realized that you

are so young i didn't realize that yeah oh you're a little baby i am a little baby it's great but you're so the way you present yourself is so mature and just so like i love that you're a very special woman i love that we'll get into that, though. You and I have exchanged text messages. Yeah. So let's start from the beginning. Where are you guys from? Where were you born?

So we were born and raised. I was at least in a little town in Henry County, like east of Atlanta. My mama met Sugar Bear. Sugar Bear. Sugar Bear. Right. You got to say it with the accent. Sugar Bear. But then we moved to McIntyre.

Which is in where? Georgia, right? Yeah, it's in Georgia. It's also like an hour and a half south of Atlanta. Okay. Nobody would know where that little town is. Gotcha. Nobody.

So then Alana came along. But growing up like we were broke like we had to ask defects for Christmas like we were living in a trailer park at one point you know bouncing from different trailers in the trailer park represent for all the trailer park girls baby trailer park princess right here right here baby let's go um but it was rough like i remember having roaches in the house like and then when i was 11 and alana was six she um got the tallers and tiaras thing right and just blew up from there really so alana growing up you know in a trailer and having that background that you did when you went to go do these pageants, right? Yeah. I forget because that was so long ago now.

It's just crazy. When you were going to do these pageants, how did you feel? Did you feel like you, you know, were part of the crowd or did you feel like you just weren't a part of the crowd? I feel like I was a part of the crowd because like for some reason, my mom always made me a part of the crowd like she always made sure I had the best dress she always made sure I had the best outfit I had the best hair and makeup artist so like I felt like I was definitely a part of the crowd gotcha that's awesome that's actually that's that's really cool that mama June you know did that for you I think that's awesome those dresses weren't cheap no hell no and that's like three thousand dollars no for sure and that's my. Those dresses weren't cheap. No, hell no. And that pageant was like $3,000.

No, for sure. And that's my next question is how did you get involved in pageants? Really? It was like Pumpkin said, we're from a little town and we have a, I mean, ran down mall and they have a little mall pageant and maybe it's like five competitors, maybe tops. And I was in it and my mom was like, well, you did so good in that pageant and maybe it's like five competitors maybe tops and i was in it and my mom was like well you did so good in that pageant maybe we should go put you in another pageant so then we did another one then we did another one another one another one and then was she ever

like the typical pageant mom or was it definitely all the way oh really work it smooth like out in Really? Work it, smoochie. Out in the crowd doing the routine. I mean in the crowd doing the routine. Hold on one second. Should we get him the microphone? All right, so you were saying when you first met Mama June, what? About the pageant? Oh, my God, dude, so listen. Hold it closer to your mouth.

You're like a talk show host right now. Hold it way down here. Like the price is right. We can hear your stomach gurgling. Oh God, yeah. So the first time I met any of them, Pumpkin still didn't know who I was, but I had already personally kind of seen everybody. June is screaming at the bottom of the stage at Alana.

Oh no. In front of the entire city and our city's probably what 200 folks i mean yeah it's really not that big but i mean alana was the center of attention yeah it was embarrassing you know when you go to school and your mom drops you off and she's like oh bye honey i love you you're like fuck off you know like that's how i felt in the moment like every time we did a pageant she's just like this big you know at the time she was also like a bigger lady I mean I'm not judging because I am too but I'm just saying like she's out there she's got her stomach out of her shirt and everything like just dancing around like a

fool and I'm like what are you doing so how did so toddlers and tiaras was it a show that you had to try out for or was it a pageant and then the show came? So like you did a pageant and like basically like if like they would just come to random pageants kind of. Okay. Gotcha. And see like one of her friends was actually doing it. Yeah. At the time.

And then they seen how goofy and crazy like we were. So they were like, we have to have her on there. Gotcha. And then once TLC had us on Tylerlers and tiaras they was like the views are so good when y'all are on here we have to have y'all's own show yeah they were like that's how here come honey boo boo come tv gold yeah crazy so you guys went from toddlers and tiaras filming that to having your own show like how does that? How old are you guys whenever this starts happening? I was 11.

Alana was six. God, you guys have literally grown up on TV. Yeah. Like, that's insane. And for you guys to be as wholesome and sweet as you guys still are, like, that speaks volumes. We've also had to come a long way. Yeah.

But even you saying that is, like, that's self-reflection like that's amazing that you can even do that but we'll get to all that um so okay you guys get your own tv show these cameras are in your faces it's the first day of filming or the first week of filming walk me through that how are you guys feeling i don't i can't say that it was awkward though because like definitely it was just like something we were just already comfortable with it was just like yeah like it was just like immune to it yeah I guess when you're being real it's not hard right like and but this show that show was so different from what we have now you know like that was for reality like they would come in the house

at you know maybe 10 or 11 o'clock in the morning and no hair makeup no no clothes like you wore whatever the hell you woke up in you know my hair was probably nappy i mean i could probably look up a few pictures you were 11 baby all right that's what i'm saying so like they didn't really care like we would just be rolling out of bed and they're still like filming us they had some really good souls taking care of them along the way, too, before things changed from TLC to WeTV. There was a lot of good people standing behind them. There was a lot of good people. Brian was one of them, you know, the cameraman.

Definitely. How are you guys feeling without the cameras on, though? Like, were you guys, like, emotionally, how was everything? You guys were so young, you know, so, like, did anything really bother you back then? I don't think I really paid attention to all that until i got older gotcha okay that really made sense because my mama kind of always sugar-coated things so it wasn't as always like oh you know you know you're famous although at 11 like that shit's cool you know yeah being 22 that shit sucks okay you know like being an adult and actually realizing what comes along with that right you know like i can't make stupid choices i can't do anything

publicly that i don't want anybody tonight you know right because everybody's in your fucking business telling you how to live your life right yeah tell me how to spend my money you know yeah i love how people are so entitled on other people's lives it's the weirdest fucking shit to me right alana growing up with these cameras in your face and making mistakes because you're still a teenager yeah this has got i know we have a 14 year old and she fucks up all the time but she's a great kid she's fucking taking college college classes in high school like she's an amazing kid but she does dumb shit you know like how do i see yeah like how does that straight fucking a's but

she acts like a dumb dumb see no but i would get together i never knew that about you that you have straight a's like that do you love school um no i don't like school i'm ready to get up out of there yeah her ass a lot because my mama didn't take school serious when she had her she was just like oh we'll just do some stupid ass homeschool stuff and it never got done like she would sleep or you know at the time when she switched on over you know she was on drugs or whatever so it wasn't getting done like alana fell so far behind so when i got her you were at school you were doing your work if you had to do extra classes like that's what you were going to do and you're going to graduate because i didn't do that me and josh didn't get to graduate. Yeah. You just want her to have a better,

you know, situation. You know, what parent doesn't like, no, I'm the strict one. Yeah. I'm the strict one in our family.

Like literally right before you guys got here, Jay and I had a conversation where Bailey wanted to go and eat dinner with our, yeah. Eat dinner with a bunch of seniors and she's a freshman and she's going to ride with a senior that we don't know. And I'm like, no,

that's not going to happen. And Jay's like, you got to let her go. And I we don't know. And I'm like, no, that's not going to happen. And Jay's like, you got to let her go. And I'm just like, no. I'm like, you know what? You guys figure it out. Let me know what you figure out. And then, you know, whatever. We'll go from there.

It's just hard, you know, when you've been through some shit, you want to make sure that everything is perfect. Yeah, because I know. You know what I'm saying? I was 17. Yeah. I was also pregnant at 17. Right. We're going to get to that too. Yeah. I was 17. Yeah. I was also pregnant at 17. Right.

We're going to get to that too. Yeah. So, okay. So mom is still healthy during this time when you guys are filming Honey Gala, right? Yeah. We very first started filming

she kind of was. Yeah. She was fine. We did what? Like three or four seasons of that. It went good and everything. But like. It went smooth.

Through like what a lot of people didn't see on the actual show was a lot of abuse okay from sugar bear um at physical yeah physical and mental yeah at 14 he threw a set of keys in my eyes um my retina become detached oh my god and so i had to get that um a buckle a buckle put on the back of my eye and stuff like that. Oh, my God. But it just started to get, like, progressively worse. How did you guys hide the abuse from the cameras? Well, that's what I was about to say.

We were actually filming one day, and our sound girl was, like, bent over. And Mama and she was, like, messing with her bag or whatever. And Mama and him had gotten into it. Well, he took a lotion bottle and, like like baseball slings it through a fucking window and the sound girl's like sitting right there like it went over her head like almost took her like it would have took her head off it would have seriously hurt her wow but like who knew that little fucker had that fucking much aggression like he like sugar bears your dad right Yes Okay Like she may have Never really seen it

But I've seen a lot Of the Right Physical abuse from him Was he physically He was always angry at me Was he only physically Abusive to you

Or was he physically Abusive to Alana And Mama June No he was just really mean Aww So you got the brunt of it Like he didn't really Claim Alana

Because he wanted her To be a boy But Yeah he definitely Never wanted anything Still to this day Really doesn't want Anything to do with me Just cause I'm not a boy but yeah he definitely never wanted anything still to this day really doesn't want anything to do with me just because I'm not a boy sugar bear is a dickhead yeah I never knew I see I didn't know any of this this is crazy yeah girl a dick okay wow that's got

to be really hurtful yeah that how does that make you feel Alana um I'm at the point now that it's he's acted like this for so long that like I'm over it at this point. But like at first it definitely hurt me because like that's your dad, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That is like, you know, as a little girl, your first love is always your father. You know, when your father breaks your heart, then that it's just something that you can never repair.

Because my dad did the same thing to me just differently uh my dad just loves women and he'll pick women over me till the day he fucking croaks so right um so you don't have any communication with your dad anymore um no here recently he tried to communicate with me but i i didn't respond only because like you waited this long yeah you know like i've i've been on the earth for 17 years now and you waited this long did you guys like never had a relationship or um like when he was with my mom we had a relationship but like once him and my mom like once my mom once we moved back to where pumpkin was born at like it was no really communication with him oh like it was another thing he kept picking women over right i feel like that generation of

men is just like the most codependent fucking men ever whoa when we first mic or have enough here we go listen when we when me and pumpkin first started dating they had just recently moved back to that area of atlanta gotcha so i was having to ride with sugar bear to come and see me to come and see oh my gosh so it was cool riding the truck you know i'm saying but like the more abuse conversations and crazy shit that sugar had done the more dislikement i had for him but it's more like hey i'm just i'm just trying to do this because i want to see you and she knew that right so i dealt through with the little piddly shit until it kind of smoothed itself out until like alana said until june was

like listen you just shut the fuck off right did you tell june that hey look he's extremely abusive towards me oh she knew she was she was in the living room when she threw the keys in her eyes Yeah they were arguing I was standing right beside her I had actually just come in from the car I remember just like it was yesterday I had just come in from the car I think Alana and them was out there in the car

They were sitting there and they were like bitching I can't remember about what But I come inside and as soon as I did that He looked at me and he fucking threw him. And she just let it happen. Yeah. Like she doesn't even say nothing. Like never stuck up for you.

Oh, that's gotta be hurtful though. My stepmother was extremely abusive and my father never stuck up for me either. And that is like the most disheartening feeling because as a kid, all you want is that protection from that one parent that just is supposed to love you, you know know so that really hurts and i'm sure that fucking just adds more resentment to the situation that you guys are going through right so ma so mama june is healthy you and sugar bear have a relationship you you guys are getting through the first few

seasons of honey boo boo when did you guys start dating josh and 2015 okay so what was that so this was after honey boo boo okay this is okay so we'll get to that so moving on what happens on the next chapter after the first couple of seasons you're getting older you're getting older and then so after the first couple of seasons, we, my mama and Sugar Bear were kind of on the outs, you know, like his dad and his mom had passed away in like 07 and 09. And my mom was like, I'll always take care of the boys. Like that was always like a promise to her before she passed away. And I guess like she couldn't take it anymore. Like finally, after 12 years, I'm told you can't take anymore but yeah um they kind of like

started to split up and that's when mama started dabbling in the drugs um it was speed at first she would smoke out of little tinfoil boats with a lighter and stuff you know i've done that before um like you know like she was very open that is one thing i can say in front of you guys yeah she was very open very open like she let us say In front of you guys Yeah she was very open She was very open Like she let us know What she was doing You know She would say

How much she was doing Like at one point I remember one day Like she was sitting On the stairs at our house Just sitting there Just lighting her little Bowl over whatever

Oh no And like It wasn't nothing Just letting you guys Breathe in the drugs I mean basically Golly That's

But this you know And then How old were you guys when we got we got far ahead but that was real far ahead though i'm just saying i remember one day okay let's reel it back yeah because our honey movie show got canceled because she was talking to a man she was talking to a man who had previously been charged with accusations of raping our older sister oh but i don't know if that was true i was four at the time so i have no idea you know what i'm saying right from my understanding and what i've heard from a few

other people it's a bunch of he said she said but again i cannot be the person to judge that i've never been through something like that you know so the show got canceled because those pictures come out um alana's uncle actually pictures of pictures of my mama with this okay gotcha okay okay i thought you meant like with somebody she had relations with in the past from where they were originally from correct right yeah yes okay i love him he's off You want to be my co-host? I love that. I love that.

But anyways, um, gosh, you're telling the show. So her, so her uncle actually sold those images. He took them on his phone personally. Like when we were all in the hotel room,

like all like basically like trying to catch up on old times and stuff. Um, he sold those pictures and got our show canceled yep that's disgusting so we no longer it's gotta be hard that you guys can't even trust people that you bring into your lives definitely i tell everybody all the time like when they say they want to be friends with me or they say that they want like some kind of part of my life like if i don't trust my own mom what makes you think i can trust you you know like so it's very hard for me to open up to anybody how does that make you feel alana do you have to be the same way like with kids and definitely definitely like at school um a lot of people are like honey boo honey boo and i'm like no my name is alana yeah like you just want to separate yourself from that. Yeah. Like I like people don't understand.

Like I'm not Honey Boo anymore. Like I'm Alana now. I was Honey Boo Boo. Now I'm Alana. You know. That's right. People just don't understand it. But listen, you're allowed to grow up and you're allowed to be whoever you want to be.

And I think like people are so used to seeing me as the little six year old girl. They're like people don't think i'm allowed to grow up right so now when she has the long lashes and she has the long nails and you know she's got on her little ugg boots or whatever i mean it could be the most dumbest stuff that they like pick at you know oh they did the same thing with bailey and i like and like it is so annoying how do you how does your mom let you dress like that or your dad or you're growing up so fast and i'm like no she's just growing up like what are we supposed to do put her in a fucking cage and not let her fucking bloom like you know it's just

crazy to me um so you guys so how are you how are you how are you guys feeling emotionally during the breakup of sugar bear and your mom and then your mom you know kind of they haven't already broken up right yep at that point at that point they were already split okay cool so how are you guys feeling at this time like i mean i was obviously happy you know like be done with his fucking ass you know because for a while that they were split up but he was still coming to visit like you know he would come up and stay for a week or two. And then, you know, Josh would ride up with him. And, you know, like vice versa or whatever. But then eventually that died out because she met Gino.

I unfortunately met Gino and your mom. I remember that. I know. I did not know that. Yeah. So I have a video I could show you. They come to one of the concerts. No, no, no. So that was recently. recently but yeah I'll tell you guys about that too so 20 what when she probably wants

to be on the podcast too girl yeah she does so 2015 or 2016 I think it was it was right before Jay and I officially got together so it was in one of those years I was with a bunch of people At a strip club in Vegas And here comes your mom Walking in with Gino She was always at a strip club Well I think it was because of him She was very

Very sweet She was very very sweet and very quiet They were hella fucked up And Gino would not stop asking for cocaine i honestly god can't remember a time that them two in their lives were sober yeah he would not stop asking me for cocaine and i'm talking like 50 times an hour yeah hey can you get cocaine can you and i'm like bro i just told you no i can't you know like right i got my own but you know like back when i was part this is back when I was partying,

you know, but I was just like, no, I don't have what you guys are looking for. But your mom was very sweet. We did a video together and then we just fucking moved on. You know, I was just like, I thought this was cool, but yeah, totally fucking random. But I actually did get to meet Gino. So that's funny. Honestly, it's crazy, right? How life comes around full circle. So, um, when she met Gino, was this the beginning of your next show or were you guys on a break or how? We were kind of on a break at this point. So the allegations

and all that stuff, that Gino wasn't the guy that had the allegations. No, it was another guy. Okay, so take me from there. From the allegations. From the, so you guys got canceled, yeah. Yeah, so TLC said Cancel these shows immediately

As soon as the bitches They were done It's crazy how like You're everything to a network Until one fucking thing Goes wrong Until one fucking thing And they're dumping you

And they're like They didn't even care To hear the story They do not have your fucking back None of that I'm telling you right now If anybody's watching this And letting you know

Don't be trusting these TV people Because they do not have your fucking back. Yeah. They do not. Absolutely. I think there is a select few that really do have a good interest on our team. Yeah. But, and I will always say that because they've been with us for so fucking long, but they

are shitty team. Some people are. Yeah. No, I believe it. But they dumped us. Like, um, we just kind of took a break. We had moved from McIntyre back to Hampton. But before we moved fully, like, we were kind of still staying, like, at Sugar Bear's new house.

He was living with his brother. And that's when her drugs started to, like, slowly progress. Was Sugar Bear doing drugs, too? I mean, not that I know of. I wish there was a camera on him because he's hilarious. He is so funny. Sugar Bear wouldn't know what drugs were if they fell out of the fucking sky. So the only thing he's fucking seen is death.

And the damn teeth. So he's just naturally fucking mean, dude. You guys moved back and you guys were it was you guys moved back and you guys were kind of back and forth between sugar bear's house and the new hampton house the one that she like fought and paid for it was like the first thing that besides our fucking 2012 suburban that we took every fucking where i mean everywhere, everywhere. Everywhere. Hey, fucking Chevy, baby. Like, we didn't have any, you know, we didn't have anything. So, like, after Honey Boo Boo, like, I guess, I don't know what that money looked like.

Like, we never got any of that money, although I'm pretty sure we were supposed to. Gotcha. I didn't know about it at the time. I was a kid. Did they have you sign? Yeah. I was having a good time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I'm famous. Like, I didn't know. Yeah. Did they have you guys sign your own I was having a good time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm famous. Like, I didn't know. Yeah. Did they have you guys sign your own contracts and stuff like that, too? I don't think at the time because I didn't sign my own contract until I was 18. Okay, gotcha. So she always signed them for us. So I don't know.

You know, like, whatever. It is what it is at this point. You know, money lost. But, um. I mean, it isn't what it is. Yeah. I mean, like, at some point, like, I'm not going to go past is Yeah I mean like at some point Like I'm not gonna go past all these years

Like trying to track that shit I'm just not gonna do it But Sugar Bear and the New Hampton house She bought with her money Yeah so she bought and paid for that Other than the suburban Like we went everywhere

We went down to Florida I remember that We went everywhere in the world One of our live trips We went to Disneyland Was like our Disney World was our first like big family trip.

Yeah. What was that like? That was nice. Yeah. No, our first big family trip. What was it? You know,

it was Disney. You're right. I know, girl. I remember when we went, no, I was in that one when we went to California for the first time.

Remember that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like, we were really young. We were so young and we were like Oh my god We're in like Hollywood

We went on Rodeo Drive Like we had buy shit from there It was kind of broke Then steal a little bit Shit I'm still broke And I can't fucking shop On Rodeo Drive I still can't get shit

From over there Okay Damn I ain't getting nowhere I'm just kidding Okay you can talk About our first trip But that was nice like those were like

good family memories like it wasn't always shitty you know until like i felt like really till we were older so when did things start taking a turn for the worse things started taking a turn for the worst i mean gino the abuse the abuse was pretty bad fucking bad i mean i never knew that about do people know that about sugar bear It was very hidden You know like the show tried to cover it up Like he accidentally threw keys in my eyes I think that's so wrong that a TV show Would know that a child is being abused

And try to hide it It's insane There was one episode he did blow up and snatched his shirt off Yeah but that was on this show You're getting ahead of yourself You are ahead of yourself You're're getting ahead of yourself, mister. You are. You're getting way ahead of yourself. She said, take it slow.

Take it slow. Josh, if you're going to be the co-host, you got to ride the pony, baby. How did that end up on We? I thought that was TLC. No,

but I think that's so wrong that, you know, like I said, a TV show knows that a child is being abused and they're not stepping in. Yeah, no, they never did. They never said anything

That's wrong That's not fair to you Like they failed you Honestly Right Yeah that's so fucked up I mean there was plenty of times Like my mom would go around

Like whooping my ass You know what I mean We all got Yeah I mean I got my ass beat too I get it I was also a badass Okay

I was the fucking Pumpkin was the baddest One out of all of us Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and say that I was a really badass Was it. I was the fucking pumpkin was the baddest one out of all of us. Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and say that. Were you bad or were you just rebellious? You know, I don't even think it was rebellious because she allowed me to do stuff. Right.

Like when we were still staying in McIntyre, I remember several nights I was like way before 15 out drinking with people that were like 21, 22. Yeah. And she was like, all right, you're going over were like 21 22 yeah and she was like all right you're going over there to so-and-so's house so it'll be all right oh yeah i remember for like i would be i remember for like a whole month pumpkin stayed over there for like a whole month just coming back home getting clothes every day getting money for alcohol all right i'll see you later bitch so when did you have your first drink? I mean, hell, I don't remember.

I was pretty young, though. I know I smoked pot when I was 11. Wow. Yeah. She remembers that like the back of her hand. Wait, what did you just say? You smoked? I smoked pot at 11.

Pot at 11. Okay, I thought you said snorted powder. I was like, wow. No, I've never done any hard drugs. But I think, honestly, I've never done any hard drugs. I mean, I've taken pain like that aren't prescribed to me Right gotcha Alana what about you?

Oh no I don't do nothing Nothing completely like never tried anything She doesn't even like nicotine six Good good for you I'm sober I'm sober too now I've been sober since 2017 And it's the best thing I've ever done I mean girl I do smoke weed but

Yeah my husband is a fucking dude He's probably got two joints going right now as we speak. Sounds like us earlier if we went at breakfast. That's crazy because you would think that a mom would want to protect their daughter, you know, from drinking alcohol at 14. That's a little bit of a red flag. I mean, I'm not proud of it, but I feel like. That's not your fault.

That was your mom's job to guide you. You know, you don't carry that weight because you're a child you know at 14 you're gonna fucking drink you're gonna make i did fucking i drank 40s of oldies cisco and all that shit when i was fucking 14 you know like you your parents are there to be like hey you're not supposed to be acting like this you know so for her to know that you were doing that is just kind of a little you know yeah like she knew she definitely knew like I mean there was times I'd like be like hey you know I'm here and she'd be like okay as long as you're with so and so and then but I mean they were like really close friends people I've grown up well they're siblings I had grown up with you know they were all they were the older

siblings or whatever but she was like as long as you're with them like that's okay I know that you're safe she's like I know they're not gonna let anything bad happen to you but i can remember nights like super trash out by the tree she told me one night the tree like just like oh she told me the first time she ever got crossfaded that she was just like laying by the fire i felt dead like oh i think that's why now at 22 i don't want to have like i don't have a social drink you know like i'm out at dinner or whatever but that is but getting completely tossed is like out of the question yeah i hate being hella fucking drunk too it doesn't feel good the room's spinning you're puking nobody's attracted

nobody's attracted no but i i go out i go out sober now all the time and I'll be at the concerts and you know, women, I love them so much. Shout out to all my, my little drunk babies that come up to me and they will be shit face. And I'll just be like, I'll be handing them bottles of water. Huh?

Mimi. I'm like, do you guys need an Uber? Do you need water? Like, I just feel so bad. Cause I'm just like, God,

I used to be this girl. Right. So mama got with, uh, Gino. What happens then? i think the first night they got together actually we met at the fuck they met they met at bingo they met at bingo american legion bingo hall i'll get down on some fucking bingo i love it

let's do it we just went to vegas and i said baby where the fuck are the bingo We all need to get together And go play bingo Let's do it We just went to Vegas And I said baby Where the fuck are the bingo halls And the They have No they have bingo in Vegas I gotta take you Girl we gotta go They have it in the casinos

Is it 21 plus They have it in the casinos If it's Oh my god Well they didn't have it In that fucking casino We were at I was pissed

You can either do it With a dauber Or it's computerized I need a dauber Please I'll do it With a computerized You're crazy

I'll do it You know what If we go I'll do a dauber with you guys but i like to just sit back and win money you know i like to just watch because i grew up god that's the whole point of bingo is the dauber they're just so fucking messy dude they're so messy i've tried them before you leave this you leave the bingo hall Like you just done Tata Yeah No like seriously Like just fucked up But so I grew up in Vegas So I'm used to like Slot machines and shit

So I'll be able to Sit there and watch it But maybe we'll do both We'll do the dauber and stuff But we gotta go do that I'll show you where They are in Vegas Sun

What the fuck is it called South Point Has a great fucking bingo hall That you can go to I can't believe I wish I'd have known that I would have told you guys Damn I know

We have a house in Vegas So anytime you guys Want to go to Vegas You can stay there, I wish I'd have known that. I would have told you guys. Damn, I know. We have a house in Vegas, so anytime you guys want to go to Vegas, you can stay there. We're going to start Airbnb-ing it out and stuff. So yeah, anytime you guys want to go,

just let me know. You're going to Airbnb out your house? You're not scared? I mean, to you guys, I would be fine with that. We're going to be very selective about who we have.

Yeah, for sure. Oh, so you're not just going to post it on Airbnb? No, I wanted to. That's what scares me. You know, the doorbell cameras, the whole nine yards you got yeah all of it security all of it yeah for sure we got that shit too yeah no security we're not that high dollar okay no you guys we used to have security though we used to have security but um that stopped after the honey boo boo show so do you guys feel like you need security whenever you're out? No.

Do people leave you alone? I feel like I'm secure enough with Josh. Like, you know, like, I know for a fact he'll fuck somebody up. Aw, don't you love that about your man? And I will, too. I'm just like, I'm so scared to put my hands on somebody, bro. I'm just really scared. I'm like, dude, I really don't want to hurt you. Because you're like, I have so much fucking aggression built up.

Definitely. So when Mama June met Gino, were you dating Josh yet? Yeah. Okay. So where did you and Josh? Josh was staying with me. Okay. So Josh and Sugar Bear, all that stuff, you guys got together.

You started moving, you moved in with her or how'd that work? He slowly started moving with me. Like he would start staying for a couple of days and he would go back home an hour and a half and then he'd come back for like a week you know um you guys are so cute but it was okay it was okay like my mama didn't like him at all she probably still doesn't fucking like him but she's like she does i don't know she just always, well, he's older than you. How much older? I'm 26. Four years. That's not that bad.

Right. That's not that bad. That's what I said. She might have just been jealous of the relationship. The only reason. Well, that's, you know, and that's what I think to myself even now, like as an adult, like, are you just jealous like that he's actually stuck around for eight years, that he's not a criminal?

Yeah. You know, like. And he actually has his license. Yeah. And we're not meaning to bash Mama June at all. No, no, not by no means, but like this is the truth. Right, exactly.

I can give you the truth from when Gino came into the house, bro. You can hook me up to a polygraph baby girl. I don't have nothing to lie about. No, I believe you. I can give you the train wreck

from when it started when he came into the house to the point of it going downhill. But literally the first night she met him, let's go back to that, okay? Yeah. So we were all at the bingo hall does your aunt's all by the way he had just gotten out of jail like

just gotten out of jail like she wrote in the day in jail like how did she know him he just was there he had come with my aunt's boyfriend but supposedly she knew him from school though she was she claimed she claimed but she lies about a lot of things too as well she that literally we all went home that night she ended up getting his number and stuff and she's like josh go get him and i'm like you don't even fucking know he's a killer yeah so he was he was like i was the fucking driver first the sugar bear Sugar Bear now it's Gino When Sugar Bear got out of the picture bro Like he was the driver But Gino was fucking cool

Gino was badass I will always say that We fucking loved him We still talk to him I can say that for the longest Gino was really like Starting to become a father figure for me I don't think anybody really knows that like honestly because everybody just knows the bad shit yeah i think the media has painted him

as such a monster that you know people didn't know you guys felt like this drugs will turn you into a monster oh so he wasn't on drugs when you guys i think that they okay so she had already started drugs you know prior to this it wasn't do you think mama turned him out nope he was a drug addict too he actually was a hero heroine he had admitted to us that he had had run-ins with going to jail because of drugs or because of like you know probably tripping out balls in the middle of the street and shit like that yeah like he wasn't afraid to admit nothing to it but he said his favorite drug was heroin and honest i mean same thing with mama that is one thing i could say like when it come to the drug stuff she was very open and honest. I mean, same thing with Mama. That is one thing I can say. Like, when it comes to the drug stuff,

she was very open and honest about that part. I mean, she was extremely open, smoking meth in front of you guys. Like, that's insane. There comes a time where you have to have some sort of boundaries, even as a parent. Well, see, like with Gino, like I said, it was cool. Yeah.

He had a little bit of a drinking problem. Yeah, he did have a little bit of a drinking problem. You guys respected the honesty from Gino. I did. I did respect that because he would call her bit of a drinker problem. Yeah, he did have a little bit of a drinker problem. You guys respected the honesty from Gina. I did. I did respect that because he would call her out on a lot of shit. A lot of shit. He'd be like, stop lying to them, Gina. Yeah, he'd be like, just fucking tell them.

Quit trying to sugarcoat it. Fucking tell them. Don't lie to them. And I did appreciate that because. Because like Punga said, mom sugarcoated everything. Every little thing. And it would be the biggest lie. And he would make her backtrack every fucking time she lied, bro.

But she would, like, try to tell this big fat lie to tell a million other lies on top of it. Yeah, go ahead and tell them this part because you're going to tell them this part. And this part's going to end up showing what the real truth is. And she hated it. Wow. She hated it. Wow. So where do you think things started getting bad for you guys i think like a couple years and how

old were you guys when when gino came into the picture i was 16 okay it was right before i got pregnant with ella okay how old i was right before i got pregnant with ella okay things didn't really i did not notice that they were on drugs as heavy until I found out I was pregnant with Ella. Okay. And how old were you? And I had her in 2017. 17? Mm-hmm.

Okay. I knew she was, like I said, I knew she was on drugs. And Josh's baby daddy? Yeah. Okay. He's the baby daddy of all my four of them. I only have one girl. You guys are knocking boots, baby.

Yeah. Big boots. Yes. So are y' got four of them. I like that. Like I said, I don't follow the storyline. I don't know anything. So this is all new to me.

I don't know any of this. So I think it's cool. I could remember there was times, actually a lot of ones were dancing with the stars. And that's when it got really, really bad. Yes, that's when it had gotten really bad when I went to dance some of the stars were you guys still filming during her drug use with gino and stuff like yes because we went to vegas five years ago to this day um and they did a fake wedding for me on the show

they had previously found needles and stuff in a freaking laundry detergent bottle and they still kept filming and they did nothing about it they found needles on the top shelf of a piece of the closet that was in the suite at the hotel we stayed at in planet hollywood prior to that because i had ella then so she was shooting meth no he was he was a shooter yeah he was speedballing cocaine basically speedballing crack i think yeah yeah it was pretty bad now i will say though he would never let us see that speedballing cocaine. Basically, speedballing crack, I think. Yikes. It was pretty bad. Now, I will say, though, he would never let us see that side of him.

I can say, though, one time, right before I had moved out of the house, I walked in on him shooting up one time. Oh. And he was like, and he, like, pushed me out of the bathroom very quickly. And that's when I realized, I was like, I think it's time for me to go. We're getting all ahead.

Holy shit. Hold on. We really are kind of ahead of the game. Yeah, we are. Because Gino was cool, man. And then he started doing the drug thing. And he started changing locks on the house. That's where it started to get real weird.

Yeah, paranoia. Like, my mom has never been the one to shut or lock her bedroom door at night. She went through and popped all the locks in this brand new house. She popped all the locks so nobody could shut or lock. Well, you could shut the door, but you just couldn't lock it. So she would bend it backwards and pop it so nobody would be able to lock the door it's very hardcore on like open house when they got really bad he put a lock on their bathroom door he put a lock on their bedroom door it was constantly locked he changed the front door

locks the back door locks the garage lock behavior. Very much. Very much. Like I remember nights at like 4 a.m. My mama is like vacuuming the stairs. With this little handheld vacuum. And looking out the curtain. She's like. How is this making you guys feel? I used to sleep downstairs.

Honestly God I'm laughing at her. Oh yeah. I can remember several nights me and Josh just like laughing at her. Do you think that was a defense mechanism so that it didn't hurt yeah i think so i think so even pumpkin definitely laughed through our pain yeah i'm the same way i'll start crying and i'll smile yeah i'm like yeah like i'm okay i'm okay me and pumpkin definitely laugh our way through our pain definitely no i do too you have to like if you don't if you don't it'll eat you alive and yeah i don't take you guys as being like dwellers you know i'm the same way you know get on with it and get over with it

yeah i'm saying build a bridge get the fuck over it because it's going to happen and life is going to continue and there's such a better future ahead of us absolutely yeah yeah like my motto is everything happens for a reason yeah everything happens for a reason i love how well-rounded you guys have turned out for all the fucking bullshit you guys have been through. See, even before Gino come along, bro, I was staying when I'd hang out and sleep and hang out and fucking stay for a week or so. I always slept on the futon in the game room, which was not really like a game room. It was more of an open room. Right when you walked into the house, it was to the left.

So I was like, cool, I'll just chill here. You know what I'm saying? No problem. It was like six o'clock in the fucking morning, bro. And she's vacuuming the stairs. And it's still dark outside. It's like shit you hear about in the movies. Yeah, like honestly, it's like some shit you watch on Lifetime.

Yeah. Next morning, I asked Pumpkin. I was like, hey, I'm not going to accuse nobody of some shit. I was like, but listen, I've been around the block and seen some shit. Something's not right here. And she's like, what do you mean? Yeah, like nobody is up doing that shit. And she's like, but listen, I've been around the block and seen some shit. Something's not right here. And she's like, what do you mean? Yeah, like, nobody is up doing that shit at 6 a.m. And she's like, what do you mean?

And I'm like, your mom's vacuuming the stairs at 5.30 in the morning, honey. I was like, you might want to question her and see if some shit's going on. And she's like, I think I'm going to call her out on it. So I left. And I ended up calling her out on it. Call her out on her shit. She's like, what the fuck are you doing? Why are you up at five in the morning?

I hold her responsible because I would want my child to do the same to me. Absolutely. So did you call her out? So I remember, that's what I was going to say. I remember one night specifically, um, I believe we found needle caps in the dryer.

Um, and I was actually going through and washing all of Ellis clothes cause we were getting ready for her to be born. Um, and I remember them coming in. They were super fucked fucked up Gino was drunk and I fucking snatched keys out of his hand and I was like listen dude I was like my fucking kid is about to be born either y'all got to get it the fuck together get the shit out of the house I said or I'm gonna fucking move and he was like okay he was like I respect you coming to me and saying that he was

like I'm gonna you know clean up act, get it the fuck together. No. I mean, for a little bit he did. For like a week. Yeah, for like a week. And then we filmed. And I had a pair of slippers right by the front door. But that wasn't before.

That's not before you moved out, though. That was way after. You moved out when I moved. When I went. She moved out when I went to Dancing with the Stars. When she was at Dancing with the Stars. She was like, since you guys can't figure it the fuck out, I'm moving out I went, she moved out when I went to Dance with the Stars. She was like, since you guys can't figure it the fuck out, I'm moving out. Me and Josh are gone.

And I sure did. They were gone to California. And I remember the day she moved out. My mom was livid. She was like, Pumpkin wants to move out the damn house. For I don't know, like just livid that she was even moving. I don't know what reason, but she's a liar too because she knew exactly what the reason was. Because prior to the day of us moving out was when I found more needle caps in the dryer and my kids clothes were in there.

So I freaked the fuck out, bro. And I wanted to tear the house down with my bare hands, but I left respectfully. So did you guys have your baby and then move out or you moved out before the baby was born? Yeah, no, Ella was, you had Ella. Yeah, we had Ella there and then I moved out. She still very small yeah she wasn't even six months ella wasn't that old because you come out there to dance with the stars before you moved i did how did you feel when pumpkin left home um when pumpkin left home i was like damn like she left me but i understood right like i was like she's having a baby like she's gotta go like this is happening like she has to do it she's gotta do for her kids you know it's like i Like, I was like, she's having a baby. Like, she's got to go. Like, this is happening.

Like, she has to do it. She's got to do it for her kids, you know? Yeah. So, like, I understood. But I was like, dang, she left. Aw, that's so mature of you. I think trauma makes you mature, too. Yeah, but it wasn't long after Alana started staying with me.

Right. Yeah, like, after. Because their drug addiction was so bad. After we come back from Dancing with the Stars, after, like, I got kicked off the show and everything, I was just there by myself it was just me my mom and Gino and like Gino he was just like at that point he was super

weird like he would just talk to my mom and like we would just all be in the living room or something he'd be like well if somebody was to break in here right now I wouldn't have nothing to do but to let them beat the shit out of y'all and just kill y'all like what yeah he would just say like he'd be geeked out of his fucking mind hasn't slept in seven days.

Alana didn't tell me that, though. Alana had been staying with us for, like, a couple of weeks at this time. And I'm like, Alana, what is it? Like, why are you not wanting to go home? And she's like, well, Gino's just talking about this crazy stuff. She's like, I'm scared. And I was like, well, then why haven't you said something before now? She's sleeping home? Like, I was physically scared to even go home at night.

Because, like, I i was like i don't know if somebody's gonna break off in here she was sleeping on her couch and i asked her they did owe a lot of people money yeah most definitely she was sleeping on her couch and i asked her i was like alana what's what's the issue how you know i was like i don't care that you're here i was like but we need to make you a room instead of you sleeping on the couch like you're just like kicking it on the couch and that's fine but like i want to make you a room what's the issue and then she told pumpkin that gina was saying all this crazy stuff that's gotta be that's just so crazy but i mean wasn't it dancing with the stars that he coded out on the floor bro no oh my god so like my mom wait don't get there yet yeah that's way down the

line okay i had to ask that i had to ask that question to make sure because i know that was the only one there that day too like it always, it always, like, the craziest shit happened. It's only me by myself. Have you? The day at the hospital. The day at the hospital. And I'm going to tell you about that. Have you guys ever gone to therapy?

Me, personally, I don't like therapy because I don't think sitting there talking to a person I don't even know. I have trust issues. Yeah. So I don't think sitting there talking to a person I don't even know Is gonna help me I have but I don't tell them Too much of my business Cause you don't know

I did that only because Our network required it After everything How nice of them Right They finally decided to pay For my How fucking nice

They required me to go to it For a full season but I hated it In their head where they're like oh this shit might cause you some brain damage so we might want to get you a little bit of help right i think of alana had like i was trying to explain it to alana i was like i think if you found the right person that you're absolutely and it takes time to you have to date a therapist like i literally went through so many different therapists and like none of them were like it's okay and when you finally are ready to sit down and just kind of unpack all of this,

because I've only heard literally the fucking tip of the iceberg with you guys. Girl, literally that is it. Yeah. And I trust me. I know. Fucking the tip of the iceberg. When you're ready to sit down and unpack it, you're going to, that person, you guys will find each other.

And I'm telling you you therapy has been the most therapeutic thing i could have ever done like i it has helped me learn how to cope i don't even fucking cry and i'll cry in therapy and it's like such a release because you don't realize how much your body the body keeps score of every traumatic event that you go through and that affects you in other ways that affects you in health that affects you in other ways that affects you in health, that affects you in emotion, you know, mental health, everything, dude, like you can get physically ill and have autoimmune disorders from trauma. Like it's just that, you know, so when you're ready, baby, it's, you need to sit down and just kind of unpack it with somebody. And same with you, pumpkin, like you've been through a lot of shit too you know you guys really need to to just you

know get don't carry that weight around anymore you guys don't deserve it you deserve to have you know that weight off your shoulders and you know you guys are just such beautiful humans just sitting here talking to you guys hearing your stories like this you know like alana i just want to hug you i feel like you look like you're like tearing up over here and it's just like i seriously like you guys have been through some shit and here and it's just like i seriously like you guys have been through some shit and i know it's crazy because i've been watching you for a while you know because like our stories are kind of similar and it's just like so crazy and like i just went on vacation with like bubba and them and their story is so similar and it's nice like over social

media to find out like yeah did i ever think that me and you would connect like no not on no kind of planet but like TikTok like what the fuck but we're so much alike too we have shared the story about our moms and I just want to tell you guys and I haven't we'll get back into your story too but my mom passed away six days ago yeah we were just talking about that

I was like wondering I was like is she gonna do it I knew you guys weren't like super close but yeah the show goes on you know but this is what I if i could leave anything with you guys is my mom was an addict just like your mamas i've been through a lot of shit with her just in the in the short time i've gotten to know her but you know i met my mom when i was 21 i'm 42 now i didn't meet her i'm sorry i met her online when i was 21 22 and then didn't meet her physically until I was 36 years old. Took care of my mom the last seven months, cut her off the last three months of her life because, um, you know, I just was frustrated with her and, you know,

that resentment that comes with having a mom who's a fucking asshole, you know, I got that phone call last Thursday. And when I tell you the guilt that outweighed the grief was so much for me. Because even you feel guilty for not being there for a person that wasn't there for you. Right. And it's the weirdest mind fuck ever. And I'm not telling you to make up with your mom. You guys do that on your own time. But just know when you guys are ready um you know just make sure that you guys always say i love you to each other at least like i love you but i can't have you in my life type shit you know

like we still talk now you know and i do tell her like i may not let her know everything that's going on or whatever but at the end of the text like i do say i love you or like good yeah because see i wasn't that's not very often you know and another good friend of mine like i've also met over social media um she was telling me the same thing she lost her dad and her dad was very shitty to her yeah and she was like i just like no matter how shitty he was to me yeah she was like i had to be there like i needed to take care of my daddy yeah and i was like i get that because that is a lot of the reason i know she's not in good health she did a lot of fucking drugs and our parents beat their bodies up yeah and so for me it's kind of like i'm not trying

to be mean i think a lot of her stuff is starting to come back around now you know like she didn't suffer any consequences then but she's gonna get the back end of that like you can't do so many drugs and then expect nothing to happen in the long term no absolutely not and so i know she's like having some health issues i don't necessarily know what but that is a lot of the reason i can't really let go because i haven't said either what i fully want to say right and like i would write her a letter yeah write her a letter and that way you can get everything out that you i wish i had written my mom a letter you know like i wish i could have just been like hey i fucking love you bitch but you know this is why i feel the way i do yeah you know i just want you to know like i'm you're my mom still no matter what you know so

like whenever you don't get another one of those. Right, exactly. So whenever you guys are ready to do that, it's just, you know, sit down, write your mom a letter, do something that will help you guys heal. You're not doing it for them. You're doing it for you. Because the guilt that I feel is just unbearable almost. Like I even told Jay, I looked him in the eyes

and I was just like, you, I was like, you got to go see your mom. You never want to, I never want you to ever feel like this, you know? So moving on before I get teary eyed. So Gino, you guys confronted Gino. Yeah, we confronted him. And then the dancing with the star stuff, we'd come back and then that's when everything just started going down really hill there.

He was telling you that people were going to break in the house and all that stuff. Yeah. She moved in with me. Okay then a couple weeks later is that that your sister is just like come on baby you know you're missing a few steps too because they were they were filming but a couple weeks but a couple weeks later when i was trying to fully move in with pumpkin we went to go film over there and like they couldn't like there was a pair of slippers there like her they're her slippers and yeah they're my slippers when i had them on okay here's the thing when she was on drugs really bad we were all her house was the film house you know regardless

of me and josh moving out and whatever everybody having their own place someone that they had cleared we still had yep that place to film out so we would go there and film regardless go there and film regardless go there and film regardless but she would be so fucked up like for four or five hours she would delay filming like we go to fucking dave and busters while we're waiting her waiting for her to wake up from her 6 a.m cocaine binge you know and like i'm talking about horns honking like they're throwing rocks at her fucking window everything like blowing her phone up and she would just like basically blow off filming and then um this was a couple days after that

she we were in there and we were filming she was actually in the hospital wasn't there though she wasn't there yeah because a couple days prior to that we went to 10 over in atlanta it's a drag show and she started having mini strokes she showed her fucking ass she was so geeked um wait okay so she was having mini strokes she was having mini strokes because she was literally like so fucked up like the ambulance told her like you're having mini strokes she proceeds to get up instead of going in the fucking ambulance and going to the fucking hospital she proceeds to get up and chase Gino around the fucking parking lot.

No bullshit. Like, when I tell you in the scene, she looks like a psycho. Like, her hair's all wet. Like, I was there. They weren't even there. I had to fucking call them. I was so pissed.

I was like, this is bullshit. And they're just filming this. Yeah, they're filming it. And they're just, yeah. I mean, this is the fucking reality of it. Yikes. They're chasing each other around

like fucking idiots. Like, really. And he're chasing each other around like fucking idiots like really he's like fuck you bitch i don't want nothing to do with you like all this stuff it was terrible like i called alana and i was like what the fuck she was through the parking lot i was like your fucking mom's having mini strikes i was like she's like our producer was literally in her face like june june and she's staring at the glass of this this the fucking this entrance of the drag show you can see it on like i'm there and it's just like at first i thought she was just kind of fucking around you know right and like she just kept doing she would just be like just slump mouth and i'm just like bro you are fucked up but there

was there were several times like that though like when jessica was still what jessica was still in school when all this was happening so we went to sam's you know every like so often we'd go to sam's with jessica so she would have enough stuff in her dorm for the month and boom what does mama do she falls asleep on the fucking sam's scooter you know through the thing she's like i'm so tired like i'm so tired and like that's not meth right they had a really really really bad well at first it was like pills like gino really liked pills and she was doing the pills i mean it was probably a little bit of everything right it was probably a little bit of everything i definitely remember one night

gino was on beans bro and he's rolling around in the backyard on beans on beans what's on beans fucking like you know ecstasy and all the triple stacks and shit like that okay so they really like that shit dude so they were on beans you never heard them called never heard it called really it's got to be a southern thing but they're so he's he's probably done taking like you know a handful yeah he's in the backyard and i can hear this shit and all i can hear is and i'm like the fuck is going on so i peek out the blinds bro and he's literally in military position with a fake gun tripping rolling around in the backyard shooting at the fucking fence with nothing there's nobody it's three o'clock in the morning it's pitch black dark outside now like it was like that a lot so i had to tell pumpkin about this shit i'm like yo do you want to see what the fuck is going on outside

right now this is ridiculous like it was entertainment uh one night they were fucked up so they decided that they were going to drink at the mace oh my god i have any i all i can do is look at them with my mouth open. I'm like. You fucking wait. Because this is going to have you, yeah. This is going to have you fucking L.L. Allen, okay? So, they were already geeked up.

They decided we were going to go out to Mexican. Gino's already. How are they hungry? Right, that's what I'm saying. Alcohol for Gino, that's what Kof saying alcohol for Gino that's what yeah really like he would drink so much he'd drink like a

fucking fish out of water golly so they decide they're gonna go and get like another bottle of 1800 after having a couple of drinks

and some Patron and they got the Patron and the Patron no no no they get so fucked up we walk upstairs to their bedroom

my best friend wait first of all they're leapfrogging up the stairs they're leapfrogging up the stairs They're leapfrogging up the stairs And then my best friend had just come over For the first time Who's leapfrogging up the stairs? June and Gina

I can't even picture June leapfrogging up some steps Up some steps That's crazy Well we walk in the room And this is the first time I've ever had anybody. The first time I've ever had anybody. So I was fucking embarrassed.

Like, when I take you, Pumpkin was pissed. Pumpkin was pissed. Pumpkin was in the floor. Stay tuned to next week's episode to see what happens in part two

of Dumb Blonde Podcast.