Dumb Blonde - Pumpkin and Alana Part 2: Getting Custody, Mama June's Arrest, and Alana Graduates

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

In Part 2 the fun continues with Pumpkin and Alana, with Pumpkin's husband Josh chiming in about family life and what it's like to get a first hand glimpse at the amazing bond these two women... have. Pumpkin and Alana share how they have stood strong in their own faith during the point of no return in certain relationships, and especially during some tough times with Mama June. Pumpkin discusses some of the process in getting full custody of Alana, and why Alana's boyfriend caused such a stir on social media. The two give a sneak peek at some of the many exciting things they have in store for us in 2023 and beyond.    Bunnie: Website    Pumpkin: IG    Alana: IG    Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 another episode of dumb blonde today i've got some icons in the building if you don't know who these two are you guys are living under a fucking rock pumpkin and alana what's up baby how are you guys doing good doing good i can't see who's leapfrogging up the stairs gino and your mom june and gina i can't even picture june leapfrogging up some steps up some steps well we walk in the room and this is the first time I've ever had anybody. The first time I've ever had anybody. So I was fucking embarrassed. Like, when I told you Pumpkin was pissed, Pumpkin was pissed.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Pumpkin was in the floor. Is this thing on? All right, gentlemen, coming to main stage next, this is Bunny. Get up there. She's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Dude, that is fucking iconic. Butt naked, basically. Done threw up. Her face is in a big pile of Mexican house special. She's throwing up. She's also like Jimi Hendrix in there right now. She's throwing up. She's laying down. Wait, wait, wait. Gino's over in the corner about fucking up. He's throwing up. She's also like Jimi Hendrix in there right now. She's throwing up. She's laying down.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Wait, wait, wait. Gino's over in the corner about fucking her. He's like, Jay. Jay, get up. He's like, I'll just take a shit on her head. And he literally goes over. In front of everybody, bro. In front of all of us.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Like, my best friend just come over. For the first time ever. For the first time ever. And he goes towards her face. He's like, I'll just shit on her face. And pulls his pants down oh my god how fucking listen he didn't shit on her though okay i was like not the dookie but in the mexican food it's like at this point imagine how fucking embarrassed i was like fuck this shitena's butthole look like? Anybody know? I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I was not looking that deep. The fucking best part about it was she's laying there fucking throwing up, laying on her back throwing up. Okay. So like it looks like a fountain. So she's fucking. And he's not rolling her over? No, he's so fucked up. No, he's trying to shit on her head.
Starting point is 00:05:00 They drank a whole bottle of 1800 together. A whole bottle together. That's what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure they were pretty. And they were already messed up on the drugs. And then when they come back, he was like, let me get some of this Sky Vodka to take upstairs. And it was a fifth of Sky Vodka. And him and June pretty much sipped on that on the way up the stairs.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So they were already fucked up. By the time they got to the top of the stairs. Like he literally like. Like what the fuck. When he said he was going to shit on her head. They are shook. Yeah. When he said he was going to shit on her head, bro. He literally Yeah, no. When he said he was going to shit on her head, bro,
Starting point is 00:05:25 he literally like squatted down and basically like sack tapped her forehead. T-bagging. T-bag. T-bagged. No, boxers around his ankles, T-bagged. And she's just giggling about the whole thing. And he's laughing.
Starting point is 00:05:37 She's lucky she didn't die. I mean, honestly. He looks at her and goes, ha, ha, ha, and then falls. I'm honestly surprised. Okay, so after that incident. I mean, how do we top that? Like, where do we go from here? It only goes up.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, it literally only goes down from here, you know? Oh, my God. I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, so Josh has joined the other couch now. So instead of just hearing him, you guys get to see him now. You guys, he has a fucked up relationship with this microphone.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He'll lay it down and start talking. And then if he has something really cool to say, he'll pick it up and then whisper in it and put it back down. She said, this is great. I'm so happy. I'm carrying it all. You guys have such a great day. Yeah, you know what's cool though She said, this is great.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yeah. You know, what's cool though, is that you can feel the love between you guys. And that's, what's amazing is that you guys just have such a really fucking cool dynamic together. Um, so, okay. Gino almost shit on June. They were fucking,
Starting point is 00:06:40 um, you know, how's that? How's everybody feeling mentally right now are you guys like honestly i'm just like numb like i can definitely tell that night i don't think we were numb at that point okay okay i definitely don't think that was the numbing point for us okay i think we're still like concerned couldn't very okay very concerned because like at this point she had many strokes she's like continuously still doing fucking drugs her bracelets her skin and her arms and stuff were swelling up so much like right there in the midst of it because they were shooting up in their arms pandora bracelet like lana's got on and it had a bunch of beads on it and her arm was literally swelling over the bracelet and she was like she was asking him she was like can you help me get it off and he was like i'm not doing shit for you yeah like on camera on fucking camera
Starting point is 00:07:31 her rings are all and just like slams the door on her face doesn't put on there like it really irritates me i'm like you guys just need to do a fucking like behind the scenes season like be if it's gonna be reality make it reality let it be reality right but it's not reality is not really reality that's what they want you guys to see right like it's reality but it's literally
Starting point is 00:07:50 clipped up into how you want it portrayed I said it's only edited to what they want you to see I mean for so long I think we're just also used to like mama spending so much
Starting point is 00:07:57 money on Gino like at first it was like you know Vegas trips like I don't know what it is with every man she's ever been with but it's like
Starting point is 00:08:03 everybody but Sugar Bear well did he go to Vegas I don't think Sugar Bear got to go to vegas no i don't think sugar got to go to vegas every fucking one has gotten to go to vegas what is it i wonder what they probably just the drug and she's open with the shit too dude she's like i'm gonna go pull 10 grand out today and we're gonna get on the plane yeah like one time she comes back from vegas and she's like well look at this rolex i just brought gino look at this bolivia watch i just brought gino all right it's like oh yeah it's like ten thousand dollar watch it you know i mean i don't know how much those damn things are no rolexes are expensive they're like 20 30 yeah roly's in vegas are probably more expensive than
Starting point is 00:08:37 they are yeah right here i'm trying to tell you i looked at a designer bag and almost choked went to ross and bought a six dollar one yeah no i no, I'm the same way. I've never had a fucking... Josh was like, baby, buy it, buy it, buy it. It was just a little Fendi bag, and I was like, boo, buy it. She was like, crazy. You deserve it, though. I do, but I can't. I just can't see myself spending that much money on a bag. And after hearing your fucking review about your bag...
Starting point is 00:09:00 Oh, did you see it on my backup account? Yeah, I'm fucking... I can't, and Jay will buy it. He bought it for me, and I still, like I'm fucking, I can't. And Jay will buy, you know, he bought it for me. And I still, to this day, fucking hate it. Like I'm doing it, but I'll carry it around for another 10 years if I have to because it's the only purse I have, you know. But yeah, no, I feel the same way about designer. I just don't, I don't really care.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like I would rather go and get a $5 purse than like a $5,000 purse. Right, exactly. My sunglasses are different. I will spend at least, you know Right exactly My sunglasses are different I will spend At least you know 500 bucks on sunglasses Because I love sunglasses Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:29 That's just my thing But purses Shoes I've never owned A pair of Christian Louboutins I'll fucking wear Nikes I'm wearing literally Fucking Amazon slides today
Starting point is 00:09:36 Girl these come from Target Yeah I will literally wear Literally one On the way over here No I don't care I had on some little white boots That I had gotten from TJ Maxx
Starting point is 00:09:43 And they were fucking Killing my feet So I was like we're going to Target Yeah I love Target Target is the best It's my fucking jam especially when we're out of town But yeah then they started going to casinos Down in Alabama
Starting point is 00:09:55 And it was like They'd go down there for weeks At a time It started in Vegas It was like when I left the house it was like she was free to do whatever yeah she didn't have any responsibility spiraled right because that was when alana moved with me we actually we were filming okay the that's what we were on we were on the needle thing the next day okay i'm sorry no no you're good go ahead no you're
Starting point is 00:10:21 perfectly fine i'll ask later oh no you're good so anyways we were filming the next day no you're perfectly fine i'll ask later oh no you're good so anyways we were filming the next day after the hospital incident she was in the hospital gino was upstairs in the bedroom with the door locked he let us into film who was in the hospital my mom okay you know from the previous night at 10 where she was having the mini stroke gotcha okay so they had admitted her into the hospital and stuff and then we went into film and there was my pair of slippers was right by the door well i went to go put them on for a scene ella at the time was a little baby she was crawling around and stuff and little did i know when i went to go put that on like i felt something in the shoes so like i immediately took it off
Starting point is 00:10:56 and there was black tar heroin and a needle in there there's like two or three needles in one slipper and like two or three little baggies that were used up. I called Josh and he was fucking livid. I was so pissed. Yeah, I remember that. Because the biggest reason I was pissed is because I don't give a fuck who you are, where you are. If your baby gets a hold of some shit like that, they are immediately going to think that shit come from you. They're not going to hear that it was my mom's boyfriend's sack of dough. No, and there's fucking horror stories, man.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Kids get a hold of shit like that or people put something like that in a kid's drink, and they're... Immediately, right there on camera, we snatched a lot out of the house. Like, literally, Josh was like, Josh said, you can go ahead and get your shit packed. You're getting out of here today. And he grabbed everything, everything out of my closet, everything literally but my bed.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And literally a few... Everything I could pick up by myself. Either a week later or two weeks later, she went down to Alabama and got arrested for crack cocaine. They said when they pulled Gino and June over in the same suburban that has been all over the world. The traveling bourbon. Yeah, for real. The crack bourbon at this moment.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I'm not going to get off point. I'm just going to say this. Gino's father was dying And we drove all the way to Indiana To let Gino have his last moment with his dad In that suburban and then drove back So the suburban has been fucking It's done made probably about 50 trips to Florida
Starting point is 00:12:15 Where's the bourbon now? The bourbon is broke down We'll get to that girl The bourbon is at the end of her lifespan I'm invested in the bourbon nowbon is at the end of her lifespan. I'm invested. I'm invested in the bourbon now. That's coming, girl. She's at the end of her lifespan. But then they got arrested for crack cocaine.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But they got caught because they were fucked up. Mama said they were geeking for like, at this point, like six days. She said she'd been up for six days. And they were on the way to this, like they pulled off at this gas station where they were arguing and shit. apparently gino hit her and like there was hair all over the car stuff or like he's pulling her hair and they're fighting and shit well um somebody called the police because he was like no she said she had called the cops one time she did say on the interstate she called them twice without him like paying attention and hung up and hung up and hung up
Starting point is 00:13:04 but somebody at the gas station heard him threaten to kill her and caught the cops. But they said when they pulled the car over that, it looked like a fucking snow globe went off in there. There was so much crack and coke. Yeah, they said there was so much shit everywhere. It literally looked like, the way it was described to us was like, you know the little Christmas decorations you see on people's tables? And how all the little fake snow is everywhere?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. Okay, well they said the whole goddamn suburban looked like that. Well, let me tell you, we were at a, I was in New York, matter of fact. Oh, my gosh. She called me. I remember that. I was in front of fucking WE TV executives. We were doing a fashion show.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Looking them in their freaking face for this main event for our network. The Bridezilla fashion show. And I get a call, ring, ring, ring. It was an Alabama number. I don't know why the fuck I chose to answer it. In the middle of this. But I fucking answer it. And I'm sitting here and I'm talking's an Alabama number I don't know why the fuck I chose to answer it In the middle of this But I'm fucking answering it And I'm sitting here
Starting point is 00:13:46 And I'm talking to the guy That literally signs my paycheck And I'm like Hold on sir I walk away And I hear it And I'm like What the fuck
Starting point is 00:13:55 And like I hear her on the phone And she's like What do you mean Like oh my god Like I'm in fucking New York In front of WeTV executives What the fuck do you mean What were you doing
Starting point is 00:14:02 In front of the We execs Like we were there For one of their events For like another show on the network gotcha usually when they bring y'all out to y'all are doing some kind of interview yeah and i'm pretty sure we had press and some shit so it was just me and pumpkin though me and yeah and it was just like one thing after another you know yeah because boom front page tmz next morning morning like literally I don't even think it was next morning I think it was later that night
Starting point is 00:14:26 I think it was a tow truck driver but now that tow truck driver has turned up dead like within like the week of him selling the story the same week of him
Starting point is 00:14:35 selling the story it was like a month or so went by I don't think it was no it was like pretty pretty close what did he die from I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:43 somebody said he got murdered yeah I thought he got murdered. There was like an article or something. God. What do you guys think happened to him? I don't know what happened to him. Honestly, I don't know. Alabama.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Wait, okay. Have we already passed the part where Gina like KO'd in the hospital floor? No, I haven't read through that story. When was that though? That was when mom was in the hospital? That wasn't when she was in the hospital on the first thing. That was when she was in the hospital when they gave her that medicine when she was in the hospital with them when they gave her that medicine that was she was allergic to and she almost died remember god girl that's been a while but you can
Starting point is 00:15:11 tell that part it was like a long time ago but like i don't understand why she's in the hospital anyways alana was the only one in the hospital with them but i was staying i went up there tonight to stay at the hospital and at the time i remember i was still living with pumpkin because like at the time i wanted to go but i really didn't want to go but i was like i'll still go because like i missed him i haven't seen him in a minute yeah so i went to go stay with them at the hospital and the next morning i know i wake up in the morning and gino just passed out on the floor like he's in the bathroom in the hospital yeah in the hospital he's talking about some. Was he seizing? Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:46 He was. He was seizing. You know what? You guys are going to hell. He was definitely seizing. But the funny thing, the most funniest thing about it is he had a needle. So, like, I knew he was shooting up. In the hospital.
Starting point is 00:15:58 This man is not insulin dependent. I know for a fact. This man is not insulin dependent. Mama tells the daughter he's insulin dependent. She took the needle that he's shooting up with and mama goes and puts it in the sharps band and she's like i always put them in here y'all know he's insulin dependent trying to cover this shit up bro that's what i'm saying yeah six in it right in the bathroom floor of this hospital and so like the doctors are like
Starting point is 00:16:18 well if you don't want to like get checked out we're gonna have to just tell you to leave the hospital because we can't like let you know like you've done basically fell out of our hospital and just let you leave and you're physically fucked up and he didn't tell he's fucked up he didn't want to get seen because he was fucked up so did he leave the hospital he just left and like he left my mom there hold on though drug addicts are the most resilient motherfuckers in the world dude i mean honestly it is crazy i fucking take a vitamin and i overdose these motherfuckers are doing crack cocaine heroin and all this shit together and like out here just am i you got a cigarette it's crazy dude wow gino was on like he would be on one all the time but like it started to come
Starting point is 00:17:07 to a point where like well a little bit after they got arrested she invited us over to alabama and it was me you and ella we went josh refused to go he was like fuck were you josh were you just pissed at this point listen at this point i'm not gonna lie to you dude i have a severe hate for june because of the shit that she has put the kids through. Right. And I've been there every step of the way since it started till now. Right. So I'm like firsthand eyewitness.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Like I should have been there. Right. Just like this. Like this is what the fuck's going on right now. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like they're speedballing through Xanax right now as we speak, which was probably
Starting point is 00:17:45 happening at some point. right. But, it's just crazy for me because I've had to see the hurt. Yeah. She had to come
Starting point is 00:17:52 stay with us. Yeah. Like, it's just a bunch of... It's gotta be hard watching your girl and her sister just fucking go
Starting point is 00:17:57 through constant letdown after letdown. Yeah, he tells us every time, every time, like... He'd be like, I don't understand
Starting point is 00:18:04 why you let her let you down But I try to really explain to him, like, he doesn't understand time. Every time. He'll be like, I don't understand why you let her let you down so damn much. But I try to really explain to him, like, he doesn't understand because it's not his mom. Right. His mom is a wonderful woman. I absolutely love his mom. Thank God for his mom. Thank God for his mom. That's how I feel about Jay's family.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I will always say that because, and she's going to look at this. Shout out, Gam Gam. Yeah, shout out to Gam Gam. Shout out, Gam Gam. But she really is to Gam Gam. Shout out, Gam Gam. But she really is. Like, she took me in. Like, she was like, I love you. She was like, fuck your mom.
Starting point is 00:18:31 She was like, you don't need her because she's been there too, like through all of it. Like, she's had to sit down and listen to the fucking shitty stories and everything because there were good times, like I've said, but there's also been the bad times over the good times but the fucked up thing is is you guys are so young right you know and you guys have those memories of when things were good but at this point it was more bad is outweighing the years of good now that i'm an adult and can really see it like it was so much
Starting point is 00:19:05 bad you know and what's fucked up for me is you know i i've just had an adult mentality since i was younger so i matured quicker than a lot of people that were around me even though they didn't realize it right so having to sit here and watch all this pain go through both of them i'm having to witness it firsthand so all the fucked up shit that june continuously done the girls were just there taking it and in my head i'm like you guys don't have to take this yeah yeah like when she's choosing to go buy this man a vehicle and hang out with this man and do all that do everything for this man instead of doing for y'all then something in your brain should be like listen maybe i shouldn't be here
Starting point is 00:19:39 yep that's maybe we shouldn't be here as a group. From afar. Right. Right. And it's just been a really fucked up. Yeah. A really fucked up series of unfortunate events have passed right in front of my eyes. And that's what makes up the hate. I mean, we're only giving you the top layer. Oh, no. You know, like we're trying to give you like the very short rundown. We're trying to summarize it, but.
Starting point is 00:20:02 No, it's hard. Hate's a deep word, bro. I don't even like using hate, but like I really hate you. Yeah. Just because of everything she has done. Still to this day? Still. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like, oh. But I think at this point, once we get to like the end, I think that you won't really see why. Because at this point, I don't feel that way. But there's almost like I can't fix our relationship. Oh yeah. You guys have been doing some shit. But anyways,
Starting point is 00:20:28 we've tried so hard and like, we're like, it just seems like we were getting nowhere, you know, especially now at this point, like she had gotten arrested. We had basically like tried to help her in that situation. Like,
Starting point is 00:20:40 she's like, Hey, here's my banking account. Like, can you move this money over? Like I helped her in that sense. I didn't fucking pay for it but when she was fucked up she would text me and ask me for like money for groceries and i was such a fucking idiot and i was so young
Starting point is 00:20:53 and dumb and because i just wanted my mom's attention for just five seconds you know i was like what's 75 dollars right and you know any groceries. And I know she's going to go back crack. Was she just blowing money and just didn't have money? She was broke. Wow. Like when she finally decided to go to rehab after what? Like. Two years?
Starting point is 00:21:15 Two. But what do you call those things? Interventions. We literally had our own intervention with a sit down therapist with her. One where she ran off and got high right before it. She literally got high right before the interview. And then come in and was like, fuck y'all. Like, tripped out in my aunt's driveway.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Missing fucking trees. Missing, like. Like, looking almost homely, like. Yes. Very, very homely looking. But, I mean, I will still say, even to this day, she looks homely looking. Like, the man she's with will be top fucking tier. You know what I'm saying? And she'll be walking around gucci belt you know nike nike shirts and then
Starting point is 00:21:50 she'll be walking around with her pants too big shirt too small you know did your mom have a lot of trauma when she was growing up i believe so yeah definitely definitely and she never worked through that shit yeah did you ever know your grandparents uh no because my grandma's pretty shitty oh she's a sellout there we have it she's a sellout so basically what i've interred from the whole relationship is that june's mama was a drunk and did the same thing that june's does spends all of her attention on men never gave any of her kids any of attention as long as there was a drink and a man in front of her she was satisfied with j With June, as long as there's money, man and joy, she's satisfied. But it's not even necessarily that because her mom didn't even raise her for long.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Dode raised her. Right. Which is our aunt. See, being that her mom didn't raise her, I would think that you would think that she would want to be a better mom. Yeah. Like, honestly. You either go one of two ways.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Pumpkin, what kind of mom are you? I'm a damn good mama. There you go. There you have it. pumpkin what kind of mom are you i'm a damn good mama there you go there you have it so when trauma happens to you um you know you're either gonna be exactly like the person who traumatized you or the situation or you're going to literally want to break generational curses and be the complete opposite i'm the complete opposite of my trauma you're the complete opposite of your trauma alana you are still young enough to choose that you want to be the complete opposite of your trauma alana you are still young enough to choose that you want to be the complete opposite of your trauma you know you don't i don't think anybody wants to be like mama you know like and
Starting point is 00:23:09 we're not bashing her or anything like that but she has chose not to work through her pain right you know and that's why i tell you whenever you guys are ready and you guys have time and can find somebody that you trust you guys got to work through it i have an amazing fucking therapist that i would love to refer to you guys and you guys can do zooms with i have an amazing fucking therapist that i would love to refer to you guys and you guys can do zooms with him his name's glenn he's fucking top tier and i'm telling you he gets to the root of that shit and he's like the most unorthodox fucking um therapist i've ever had and like you meditate you go back to your child um you know your child self you get to talk to your child self and you know like give your child self a hug and you get to learn all your pods like it's crazy so i'll give you guys his
Starting point is 00:23:49 information and if you guys ever feel it on your hearts you know reach out to him because you can trust him he has a lot of high profile clients and he's extremely i think that's what's the hard thing yeah like even choosing daughters for my kids it's like you have to be super careful because being on that side of things like i don't consider myself a celebrity but a lot of people do no you guys are celebrities you guys are household names right and so it's very hard to trust anybody so i could kind of get real honest coming from you know like it's like are y'all asking that question because later like i know there's hippa and stuff but shit i'll be damned if somebody won't break it you know i totally know
Starting point is 00:24:23 and um but glenn would never so right right yeah i'm not saying that he would ever no no no for sure and but i wholeheartedly vouch for him so if you guys ever do and when you want to which it'll come you guys when i was 22 when i was 17 i was a fucking asshole i did not want to work through my trauma i was a little fucking hellion i fucking rebelled i did it you know i did it all and it wasn't until i old till i was older that i wanted to actually like work through it and unpack it and shit so moving forward fucking gino and her are just on the out she showed up to an intervention missing her teeth yeah that was like the first one and then the second one she decided i guess her and gino she claimed that they had a talk and they decided they were going to go to rehab right and they did go to rehab but at the time she only went to rehab
Starting point is 00:25:09 because she knew she had a check coming wow she knew she had a check coming from the show she completed and she only had 75 cents in her bank account wow so then what did she do she did get out of rehab and she did stay sober but gino didn't like he did start but the first time she went to rehab gino come and got her oh yeah yeah wow i forgot shit girl that was not just one rehab there's been at least two i know of wow i think it was like three she it was very hard for us to agree she went to one in atlanta that was the first intervention and it was really nice like um the people were really great there. Like, they understood where I was coming from because I still don't even right now,
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't understand like addiction being a disease. I'm the same way. I always feel like it's a choice. It's a choice. Yes. You are now the second woman that I have found that agrees with that. Yeah, no. So we can, you know, we'll agree to disagree with the world, but you know, I wasn't, I was
Starting point is 00:26:09 addicted and it was my choice. I was addicted to Xanax and cocaine and I used to crave that shit and it was my choice to do it. And I partied all the fucking time, but then it was also my choice whenever I decided I didn't want to do it. So I'm speaking from my experience of myself having an addiction. Right. It was my choice. And I also made the decision not to be anymore. Right. You know, I feel like sometimes people mistake willpower for disease or mental illness. And I don't know. That's just there's a fine line there, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah. And so like they were really great. And she was still using drugs there though. Like, but she would do it where like, you know, she would come in on Monday and then she'd do her drugs or whatever. And then she wouldn't go back until the following week. Like she was supposed to go twice a week, but then she started only going once a week because she knew she was doing drugs in between. She'd pop dirty and they'd kick her out. And then she'd come up with some crazy thing to the crew. And she was like, I'm not going to this fucking rehab anymore because they're doing drugs in the
Starting point is 00:27:08 back she's like um y'all think they're all fine and danny they just want your fucking money she was like but everybody's pissing dirty in this motherfucker like basically just showing her ass like talking shit about this rehab so they weren't allowed back there and then we had another intervention which is where i met her in atlanta at like a secured spot um she just had like it was so sad seeing her like that like she was in fucking shambles you know like teeth messed up hair yeah you did not see her that day because i was like no like alana does not need to see her like that do you guard her from a lot of that stuff or do you i don't know but i did before right because alana like i think a lot of people at the time forgot alana was a kid yeah we would all talk about it just like openly in front of alana and just be like oh yeah you know mom was a crackhead or
Starting point is 00:27:58 whatever because i was like i was angry at the time you know but then like realizing now like i shouldn't have said some of those things yeah but you were you're also a baby raising a baby right so you guys are learning what to do and what not to do during this time are you having babies another baby well I had Ella and then I haven't had one for like another three and a half years okay gotcha it's crazy really a lot when you recap everything is really's really nuts. So when does it start calming down? Like, where are you guys at now? We moved back to the town that we're in now.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Well, things didn't even really calm down still. Like, you know, we're filming and stuff. Right. It's still a shit show. Right. We still have to deal with her. Do you guys ever get tired of filming? Do you ever wish you didn't have to
Starting point is 00:28:45 Definitely all the time Do you guys do it just because of You know of course it's a great paycheck And it supports your family And I think we also do it because of our fans Like honestly I don't care if I did get paid another dime I really do enjoy like Social media
Starting point is 00:29:01 We enjoy just getting on tiktok Talking to our fans there's a lot of people like yeah the money's nice i'm not gonna lie there's i mean come on that's why we're all doing the shit we do but like we gotta we gotta have money to survive absolutely it's just the truth but i do enjoy getting on tiktok i do enjoy like doing the show because the amount of love that i have in my inbox and how many people that i've saved from like committing suicide or like their moms are doing or their moms are doing they don't know how to deal with it and like i'm answering these questions for those people you
Starting point is 00:29:35 know and like that to me means more than anything like i actually want to get into like motivational speaking because yeah a lot of people don't talk about it you know like when we do i think it would be good for you we'll sit there and talk with fans she's like when did it calm down first of all mama had four boyfriends in between that time after gina are you fucking kidding me no i'm not like there isn't a point where it's like we're chill like that's what i'm saying it's always some fucking shit with my mom who came along okay so she's missing all her teeth and fucking okay well then she finally goes back to the... Gino's still around.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, then she finally goes back to the last rehab and Gino was like, hey... He honestly told us. He was like, I'm so fucking sick of doing dope.
Starting point is 00:30:14 He was like... Is he still alive? Yeah. Okay. So they went down to one down... It's called Banyan down in Florida.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I don't know. St. Paul, Lucy area. It's apparently like a big known one. Banyan down in Florida. I don't know. St. Paul, Lucy area. It's apparently like a big known one. Banyan was like supposedly really good for her. And I mean like, I feel like it was good.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And I do feel like, yeah, she stayed sober and stuff, but I do still have my questions. You know? I feel like, like not trying to be mean, I'm sure people still question you. You know,
Starting point is 00:30:41 like do people still do that to you? No, they know I'm sober now. Yeah. Okay. Well, she's sober too. She's been sober for two years, but I still question her just because she gives me the signs. Maybe not me.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And yeah, like, you probably don't give the signs off like you would. That's your mom too. You guys have a lot of hurt and a lot of pain there. And it's like, it's almost like you feel like if you give her the benefit of the doubt, she's going to hurt you again. Because it's already been done. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:31:03 We definitely don't even like wish for the best anymore we already didn't thank the word yeah honestly right exactly exactly because you guys have been fucking yeah i think at one point in her addiction i was literally like i'm just gonna get a call and she's gonna be dead at one point her addiction i was literally like praying to god that my mama did not die yeah i hate that for you guys you guys are so and i don't hate to keep reiterating it but you guys are literally so young to be saying this about your mom like i hope she listens to this and hears how much you guys love her still no matter all the shit she's put you guys through like you guys still don't wish harm on her and just want her to be your mama i mean yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:31:46 that's literally all i want you know because after she got clean and stuff her and gino were still living together but his drinking was still an issue you know like we went down and visited like two years ago when they were living down in florida and we went and took the kids to disney world and she was only able to go like one day with us because she couldn't leave gino at home by himself like she was saying that the whole time she because she couldn't leave Gino at home by himself. Like she was saying that the whole time. She's like, I can't leave him at home by himself. He's going to be pissed drunk when I get back. And it's just going to be bad for all of us.
Starting point is 00:32:09 He would have like at least two 30-packs a day almost. Like it was insane. They ended up having this stomach surgery together where he couldn't like, one, I guess beer was just getting old. You know, like the gastric bypass. Oh, okay. So that gastric bypass, right? Is that what mama did too to lose weight yeah okay when you seen gino you seen a beer in his hand right so i don't know if beer just got
Starting point is 00:32:31 to be a thing where it was fucking with his gastric bypass sleeve or whatever so he started drinking wine but they thought that was better though they were like oh so he's drinking wine so he really is doing like that's what she would tell us when we come and visit him we'd be out playing cards she's like it's okay he's drinking wine so he's doing better but like even before it like really went the fuck downhill and we were not staying there june would be like oh his drinking is really calm down and then you'd go over there and he'd be piss fucking drunk or you'd go over there in the fucking entire fridge in the garage she'd put the fridge in the garage so we didn't know and it'd be filled with bud light wow it was insane anyways um after the florida stuff like they split up she finally got the fucking balls
Starting point is 00:33:14 up to leave him finally finally she did it dirty though she did do it dirty she did do it dirty but that's june she does everybody dirty she did it dirty but like at this point like maybe that's what she had to do to break it off with him she did so what happened she is she was just too scared to come like he's okay listen so I was at the courthouse we were filming okay when she broke it off with him and she told him she was like I just don't think this is working anymore he's like are you breaking up with me he was like I just don't get why you have to do this like on national tv like why you can't just talk to me. And at this point,
Starting point is 00:33:45 like, um, he was still drinking and stuff, but that was just him being real about the situation. You could definitely tell in that scene. I honestly, yeah, it was definitely hurt,
Starting point is 00:33:55 but like, he just wanted her to be honest. Different Gino from trying to shit on her face, you know? So that's good. Right. At least he had some feelings. You could definitely tell he was hurt.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Like you just tell by the tone of his voice but i will say that although here's the thing he was never shitty to me he would never abused me he never said any shitty stuff to me like i mean other than the stuff he obviously said you know to alana when she was living there but like it's just hard because i do still wish him well like he's still staying in a rehab I think in like North Carolina or something halfway house now and I have talked to him a few times and I like I just I get it I text him every now and then as adults it's okay that you and my mom didn't work out but I don't wish you harm I do wish you the best and my mom gets mad about that but she gets really angry that we even like try to even one of this she's like he abused me and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:45 But like, I never seen it. OK, but wait, wait, mom. You want us to protect you, but you never protected us. Right. You're not protecting yourself. Yeah. So that's that victim mentality. And that's why she is where she is.
Starting point is 00:34:57 It's crazy. My mom has that. My mom had that same mentality, too. And that victim mentality gets you nowhere. Well, see, after she left gino she got the 24 year old yeah get on to boyfriend number i mean okay so listen if i'm ever in that position i might get a 24 year old too i'm just kidding like i like i like him young get on to the what's the only reason she left gino after we told her for a year and a fucking half like you need to
Starting point is 00:35:19 leave him just be done with the situation like how does mama june pull these motherfuckers i'm trying to tell you like the money the money everybody really is the money you put money i was like she's got the platinum and honest to god the dude that she was with he was 24 he actually did a podcast with another girl on youtube and he straight up admitted like he said yeah like who wouldn't do it for money like he told tiktok everybody like i mean he was i mean at least he was honest about it though he had brought him a car but he did say that she moved too quickly like she wanted him to be in love with her and she thought that you know buying him a car and buying him all these plane tickets to vegas and the hoover dam and all this stuff that buy him a house fully furnishing the
Starting point is 00:36:02 house fully furnishing he she brought her so mama june is a mama june is a sugar mama she's a wooer she will woo you over in a heartbeat no actually no she's a wooer for the men though because i need a car right now and she has brought gino two cars and the one dude one car and has yet even offered to give me any money to even put on a car yeah it's just fucked up man There's just a lot of fucked up shit behind the scenes that nobody sees, dude. And it bothers the fuck out of me, bro. That's really the only reason I have
Starting point is 00:36:31 the feelings I have towards you is because of the fucked up shit that has come a part of this world. I think you got a bigger on the tip of your nose. Don't do that, bro. Eat it. Cut that out, Corrine! Sorry, I'm just letting you know like I know I sound like a broken record but I mean that's just so
Starting point is 00:36:55 wrong that she would rather you know buy somebody else a car besides her own daughter so now that you get to hear it in real life yeah I mean like she but she does that with everything though but i under i also understand where they're coming from where like as much toxicity as they've been through you they say when you go through heartbreak there's like a chemical that releases in your brain that bonds you to that person right like and so literally it hurts more like when you're broken up and that's kind of like the same thing whenever you're going through something like that especially with a mom like each time they're getting their heart broken it's just this bond that's getting it's like a toxic you know it's almost like a domestic violence relationship right you know like it's just that toxic bond away from it exactly it's like you almost get used to the pain yeah like if life is too normal, you want to feel that hurt because you want to feel alive again,
Starting point is 00:37:46 you know, because it's all you're used to. So, you know, that's just, it's fucked up. It is. It's crazy because she just did everything for him. She was like, you know, I've really changed. How long did they stay together and was she sober? She was sober at the time, but he was not. The 24 year old
Starting point is 00:38:05 He was like Just freshly out of rehab Just freshly out of jail Like he actually Had shot up His like Girlfriend's apartment Like a couple months
Starting point is 00:38:13 Prior to the meeting Oh yeah And then she would Call us all the time Be like well I found drugs In Jordan's room Or I found drugs
Starting point is 00:38:18 Or Jordan's relapsed again And I'm like Not surprised Not Not You know Like literally nothing this woman could do could surprise me anymore honestly well who came after the 24 year old well then now it's justin which is now her husband no she really went to that other man that she was oh no she did this
Starting point is 00:38:36 fucking thing okay girl first of all she was fucking 50 million and 50 states okay first of all sorry excuse my language but like it's just a God's honest truth Because She posted this Sounds like a movie Huge ordeal Our life is a different movie And she started it With the original 24 year old She started it with him
Starting point is 00:38:52 At first 50 states And 50 weeks Or whatever 50 states 50 weeks 50 weeks Then she did it
Starting point is 00:38:57 Started doing it With another man Oh so she's traveling Yeah she was like traveling She was doing stuff She was like I have to go to Different rehabs and help
Starting point is 00:39:05 people get better or help somebody get better in another i know she did have one lady to do this no she was just doing it and paying it out of her own pocket okay and okay which seems helpful right and i get it and she's still so freshly in recovery it's like get like six seven eight years under your belt and take no time to herself right exactly it has to always be about her though that's the thing she's got to work through her her childhood trauma she's never gonna get better she's not mentally prepared for it no because her reality of it and the little small reality that she lives in is that as much as she has fucked us over she thinks that I'm just supposed
Starting point is 00:39:50 to get up get the fuck over myself get over the past because this is what she always says to me she says y'all are always living in the past and we can't move forward because you're living there of course I'm fucking living there because it was two years of shit you did to me sounds like your mom's a narcissist very much she was like I left Gino I did everything you guys wanted Of course I'm fucking living there because it was two years of shit you did to me. Sounds like your mom's a narcissist.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Very much. She was like, I left Gino. I did everything you guys wanted me to. I went to rehab and y'all still just can't get over it. What? She was like, and I'm clean. It takes time. Baby girl, just because you're clean doesn't mean you've changed.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Right. You don't get to tell people how to heal. I guess she doesn't know time heals everything. Like for real. It hasn't even been that much time though. Exactly. You know, like it takes a lot of time to heal from and like who is she to tell me when i can you know decide what to do you know absolutely never let anybody tell you guys how long to heal like that healing is a personal
Starting point is 00:40:36 journey that you guys are going to go through on your own all right so what is what's going on now she's got a new boyfriend now she she's got a husband. Okay. When she actually tried to hide the marriage from us. Well, hold on. Wait a minute before we get there. Wait, wait, wait a minute. Okay. Last season, there's been a few times in between this story that mama has said things to me.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Like when I've had, I had temporary guardianship over Alana. It was because D-Fax granted that to me when the Coke've had I had temporary guardianship over Alana it was because DFAX granted that to me when the coke story come out that's amazing and but it was just temporary guardianship was just some bullshit through probate court something that could have been canceled at any point anytime right well one year after I had Bentley
Starting point is 00:41:18 I didn't renew it and mama would always use it against me and she's like well Alana staying with you you know like I can get her back anytime I want to like she's mine all this stuff and i just like just because she's sober she hasn't changed anything about her she's still all about the man she's still about spending all the money on the man like none of her behavior has changed at all and i was like alana would never go live with you like i'm sorry so last year I decided to get custody of her started to try to start the process we went and seen a few lawyers um kind of got like you would think it would be a shut and case
Starting point is 00:41:51 fucking situation shut and close situation I thought all of this and then we could just close the case and be done with it yeah that's what I thought that's what we thought too until I found a lawyer and she agreed to do like I I didn't have $10,000. I was honest to God, like a couple of months ago, if it hadn't been for social media and the show coming back, like I was dead broke. Yeah. My car payment was behind.
Starting point is 00:42:13 My light bill was behind. Like Josh was working, but like, it's only one fucking income. And like, I'm taking care of two kids already. I think I was pregnant with the twins and stuff, like right before I had the twins.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So I couldn't work. Right. And you look great for having twins, by the way, look great for having four kids obviously you guys got four fucking kids but you know what was I saying um that you you didn't realize how um hard it was going to be to get custody of Alana. Okay, yeah. So last season we went to Vegas and I had to have her sign actual like full legal sole custody papers. Pumpkin was so nervous. I was so nervous because the lawyer had already told me.
Starting point is 00:43:00 She's like, I'm telling you, I'm going to write it up for you and everything. She was like, but she can say she'll give up custody of lana but when it's on paper it's a completely different fucking thing but me in my mind i knew for a fact that she would write that she would sign the papers i just didn't think so like me being a mom at this point being a mom for like almost five years you know what i'm saying i'm like this is like i don't think she's gonna do this I would never right well cuz she laughed in my freakin face this might be daddy uh-huh that's guard dog yeah his little butt Hey Hi
Starting point is 00:43:47 Hold on I'll get out Man you're gonna make me cry bro Looking at you bro Oh god man You gotta get a picture How much your music has saved me From going down some bad roads bro You'd be blown dude
Starting point is 00:44:02 Baby you smell like a fucking weed cloud i swear he smokes and just i did eat edibles hard come here did you was like baby don't eat those you're gonna be fucked up on the podcast i thought it was like yo bro just uh well you know he just went to vegas yeah no hell yeah you guys got a hell of edibles. Yeah, just love y'all. Oh, we love you. Congratulations. Thank you. It's so awesome watching what y'all have done. Thank you. You too. Thank you. I told her, I said, I'm not, you know, I'm not only proud of, I know you hear this all
Starting point is 00:44:35 the time, of what you stepped up and have done, but how y'all also stepped up and got together and y'all little foxhole and said, let's continue to make a business of what we've already been exploring. Right. Let's at least take leadership. It's a business aspect from it. And it's taken us a long time to get there. Somebody that, when this all happened,
Starting point is 00:44:52 had to get in the foxhole and go, let's call a spade a spade. It's a hustle. We still need to find a way to monetize. Yeah, for real, yeah. I thought that was just, you know, at the end of the day, that's just, it's kind of one of those things,
Starting point is 00:45:02 what I tell people is, I don't want nobody's money. But if somebody's gonna get paid from what we do, I'd like to get the money. Right. Yeah, exactly. You're exactly right. We all agree. Nobody's getting money. I'll do it for free. Yeah, that's fine. You know what I'm saying? We agree. Nobody's making no money, no problem. But if we're going to make money, if I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Right. Yeah. That was cool to see y'all parallel that and continue to push forward. Oh yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. yeah that was cool to see y'all parallel that and continue to push forward oh yeah thank you i appreciate that i've been telling a fan of y'all and you and just your growth and you just turned into a young woman and just but really to see the baby when you hear this podcast i didn't you know we don't follow everything so they've been telling literally what i was just telling her yeah i was like i tell them like they should do a whole season of like behind the scenes shit like real deal the shit they've been
Starting point is 00:45:51 through and to be as wholesome and well-rounded and just they they love each other so much like they have each other they're like us you know like they've just been through so much shit and they just decided to just you know buck up be a family and fucking do it yeah you can feel that there was some real inside baseball happening yeah yeah yeah you know what i mean like there was a moment early neither one of us had shit but we felt shit could be shit yeah i told josh that all the time i was like baby we ain't gonna be broke forever like two months ago You know Like I told Josh I was like we're not gonna be broke forever It's gonna be okay
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah You get past that shit You know You guys will figure it out We've been up and down I mean I was with him When he was having to count out 535 at the fucking cookout
Starting point is 00:46:35 Do you hear me Not a penny over The fucking lady At the drive-thru out broke She was like yo This is 538 And I was like bitch Yesterday it was 538
Starting point is 00:46:42 I was already 5 I remember It's gonna be 538 Oh We've had our ups it was five i was already five i remember same yeah that's what real family and real love but i was listening to this man since welcome to the trap house we love welcome to the trap house wouldn't that be insane smoking one with them wouldn't that be insane Smoking one with them Wouldn't that be insane for you Alright so let's dive back into it real quick Where were we I forgot I know there's been so much
Starting point is 00:47:14 There has no no Mama getting married This is gonna be like a three hour long podcast So last year I went and got custody So I just started the custody process And last year in went got custody yes started the process and last year in vegas um i was super nervous and i was like hey listen i need you to sign these papers but i didn't read them to her because that is not my job when like even if someone else would have served her with
Starting point is 00:47:35 the paperwork like they're not gonna sit there and read they're not gonna sit there like that is your job although you're blind it's your job so there was uh although you're blind like she is legally blind in one eye and then partially blind in the other eye gosh but like that bitch can see money right i'm gonna tell you right now she's missing a dollar from her she gonna know right she can sniff it out she was just like yeah yeah like she was like laughing and giggling about the whole situation she was like yeah here you go here you got a 16 year old now. Well, then that paperwork didn't end up working out for me because my lawyer had to get a new one
Starting point is 00:48:11 and she agreed to do everything pro bono because we were going to promote her on the show. And she was like, I need to get these papers signed in Georgia. So she had my mom come in. Mom was like, well, I need you to read these to me. And da, da, da, da. Somebody got in her ear yeah i'm assuming well she read that there was child support she flipped a fucking wig dead ass in my face told me
Starting point is 00:48:33 which i'm still livid to this day that they did not put that on the show she dead ass looked me in my face and said i would rather sign over any rights to alana than give you any money and the producers and the cameramen of the show were sitting just like Alana. They were all just sitting there like. And they didn't put that in. Fucking astounded. Had no idea what to say. I wasn't there. Like what the fuck? Pumpkin called me
Starting point is 00:48:50 in a fucking rage. I was ill. Like she rode with me there. Right. When we were done with that scene I said you can find your own fucking ride home. I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:48:58 if you're just on the curb all night because you like that was. She has done a lot of things to put the icing on the fucking cake, but that one right there just put the sugar in the sweet. And when she calls. It's like, you want somebody to take care of your daughter, but you don't want to fucking
Starting point is 00:49:10 help. Right. Like, that's so. But, like, you say that in front of your other daughter's face about your other daughter. Like, how do you even say that? My thing is, we wasn't asking for you to pay 30 grand a month. We wasn't asking for any all that much, but you can go out here and spend 20 grand at a time on one watch on a man.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And so... Five, six grand on fucking change. She literally told me in there, she was like, I'll give you a couple hundred dollars a month. She was like, and that's it. That's all I can do.
Starting point is 00:49:38 That's all I can afford because at the time, we didn't know if the show was going to be getting picked up. Couldn't they garnish her wages if she just... No, because we get like no taxes. Did I know.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Wow. Yeah. Right under the table. But she does get social security. But so like if we don't have the show, that's her like only income. So that's... When we went to court back in May of this year, or back in April of this year,
Starting point is 00:49:59 she literally said in front of the judge, she was like, that's my only income. We don't know if we're going to get another show. And da-da- show and da da da well a few weeks after we signed $800 agreement for child support we got signed for another season I mean we could have she was supposed to pay me $2,500 and it pisses me off too because they they decided to do it at the worst fucking time bro I literally had three great job opportunities that were going to lead into careers and i know that i make more with the show than i do starting out at a job the first year so josh would really rather work i do i've been working my that's why you hear my jones my joints and shit cracking all the time is because
Starting point is 00:50:34 i've done basically manual labor my entire life like i've worked with my hands and work with my back since i was 15 old enough to work with my dad and I've worked up until filming, filming will leave, I'll go back to work. Right. Pumpkin knows I can't stand it and it's nothing to do with being at home with her or the kids.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah, well, it's just you feel productive when you're working. And I feel like I'm doing something for my family. Yeah, he does not like it when he's just standing there just like,
Starting point is 00:50:56 I'm so fucking bored. I don't get like, he's driving him. I was like, I could be building a fucking house right now. I mean, he's bored or that
Starting point is 00:51:01 Pumpkin's aggravating him. We don't really know. Right. We're not too sure. But I have enjoyed the time at home with my kids. I really have. Every moment of it, every time I've got to stay at home with her, it's been enjoyable every second of it.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I love it. And I would say Ella likes having him around all the time. Yeah, she does. She's like, you're not going to stupid work today. Aww. Chachi's just letting everybody know he's here. So did she finally sign? She did finally sign, and she agreed to $800 a month in child support
Starting point is 00:51:28 But literally she just played dumb the entire time She was like I just thought this was an adoption process Like all this Like why would I adopt She's like all pissed because she's like You did me dirty trying to go behind my back and get the child support No bitch go Like to me dirty would have been getting you to sign over your rights.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Right. Like, but I didn't want to go that far. Like, I didn't want to make you be that parent. Right. Like, I was trying to do everything, like, the best way I knew how, you know, without, like, trying to piss anybody off at the time. And it was just like, she didn't care about that. Alana, are you okay with that decision?
Starting point is 00:52:00 Would you rather be with Pumpkin? And, like, you know, like, how did that make you feel? I mean, I would rather be with pumpkin and like you know like how did that make you feel um i mean i would rather be with pumpkin because like the relationship i mean a pumpkin habit it's not like a mother-daughter relationship it's more of like still a sister-sister relationship but like when she needs to be a mother hold on one second chachi come on clankety clank come here come here so what were you saying though you? Being with Pumpkin's like a sister relationship. Yeah, like being with Pumpkin's like more of a sister relationship. Like when she has to be a mom, like she will put her foot down and be like, I will put my foot down.
Starting point is 00:52:32 You need to get your grades up. Like if I bring her home with a port card and it got an 80 on it, she'd be like, what's this 80 coming from? Yeah. What's it coming from? Yeah. Do you miss your mom at all or do you miss what you guys used to have I miss like what we used to be
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like where we used to just like sit there And just take random trips Or like we just all used to be like one big old family But like now like I've come to realize That like this is my family now Yeah That's amazing And that's so cool
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's taken us a long time to get to this point Oh no Like when I first got Lana Lana did not want to say shit She was very angry at us Like And I get it long time to get to this point oh no when i first got lana lana did not want to say shit she's very angry at us like and i get it like she didn't know how to express any of that stuff and shit like that but like over time like that's how it was when we first got open about a lot when we first got uh custody of bailey it was the same way you know she was mad at us she didn't understand
Starting point is 00:53:19 it and i still think sometimes she's still mad at us. But now that her mom is back in her life full time, I think she realizes what was best for her. Right. So it's it's a process, you know, like that's just growing and glowing is exactly what you guys are doing. How did you guys get this TV show now that you guys have? Did they come to you about it or did you go to them? It was just. Yeah, well, it wasn't really like a runoff. It was like when my mom very first like went from
Starting point is 00:53:46 Big big old big girl to like Skinny skinny girl Yeah it was like What is it called is it still hot or not No it's Mama Jean Road to Redemption But it's been a long motherfucking road Is she redeemed is the question It's Mama Jean Road to Redemption girl
Starting point is 00:54:03 But it's not Mama Jean Road to Redemption, but it's been a long fucking road. Oh, no. But I'm just saying, like, for three seasons, that's been the name of it. And I'm like, this is a long motherfucking road. I'm telling you right now. Like, when is she going to be redeemed? I want to know. So many people just want our own show.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Like, no Jew, no nothing. There's a lot of my comments that say that. They're like, where do we sign the position? The petition. Yeah. Yeah. whatever it is I'm like even on my little social media
Starting point is 00:54:27 like people send me messages through Instagram 24 7 they're like we don't understand why you guys can't have your own show why can't they just
Starting point is 00:54:34 delete June's out of your life I think I would like it to be like that but in the same respect I think they like the drama that June brings it's the drama
Starting point is 00:54:39 the drama is built they don't want wholesome we're on the women's entertainment network so come on like women are all about the drama yeah they don't want wholesome We're on the women's entertainment network So come on like women are all about the drama Yeah they don't want wholesome They got Rod Dill on there And age is just a number but older women
Starting point is 00:54:53 Love drama And when I say older we're talking about like 60s They love it Who doesn't love some good juicy TV drama Have you not watched the Golden Girls Like they love the TV I love the Golden Girls So what they love the TV. Yeah. I love the Golden Girls. So what does this next year bring for you guys?
Starting point is 00:55:08 If you guys could have a perfect 2023, what would you guys say? Big Mona graduates. Yay. So you're graduating? She graduates in May. I'm so proud of you, girl. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Fuck yeah. All the shit you've been through, that's such an inspiration for girls your age. Yes. Like that's amazing. That's a really big deal. So, and she just got her fucking driver's license finally yeah how she is she a good driver uh she doesn't really drive nowhere okay good she was like so she was like well i should have let you drove to tennessee i was like wow no ma'am you're like no thank you no thank you
Starting point is 00:55:42 she's a little rough on the brakes oh yeah she's gonna have to but me personally i would prefer to be the passenger princess okay there you go we know you would there you go she's just got to be a little bit more independent like you've got your old man driving you around and stuff like but my boyfriend takes me everywhere i need to go okay yeah so that was i do know because of tiktok that was a huge controversy you have a boyfriend that's a little bit older than you yes yeah. Yeah, and I think it's not so much the age too. I also think because
Starting point is 00:56:07 he's a different race than me as well. How much older is he? He's 21. He's 21. And you're 17? Yeah. 18, 19, 20, 21. That's four years.
Starting point is 00:56:16 That's the same thing as me and pumpkin. So it's not that bad. I mean, I understand what people are saying because 17, 21, but when you get to be 21 and he's fucking what 26 like i told you okay yeah i tell people i'll be like half of y'all's moms are like 43 and their
Starting point is 00:56:30 dads are like 70 so i get my face yeah did i add wrong so i listen man i can count i can count money but i cannot do math i've told you motherfuckers this a million times i can't do math how old would he be 25 okay i was one year off i was one year i said 24 i know yeah like i'm one year off no for sure but that's not that bad and as long as he's treating you good how do you like i would say like honest to god my kids love draylon his family is super respectful draylon's always been super respectful like he holds his shit down he does what he has to do you know what i'm saying like he pays his bills he. He does what he has to do. You know what I'm saying? Like he pays his bills. He's grown. Like does he have kids or anything?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Oh girl. I can't do that now. Yeah. Yeah. Pumpkin's kids are enough. Do you want to have kids one day? Um, one day,
Starting point is 00:57:18 but definitely right now. What happens after high school for you? What do you want to do? Oh, I want to go be a neonatal nurse. Oh, good for you. So you're going to get right into college. Are you going to take a break? I'm going a neonatal nurse oh good for you so you're gonna get right into college are you gonna take a break i'm gonna get right i think
Starting point is 00:57:27 pumpkin's gonna make you get right into college i'm gonna feel like if she takes a break she's not gonna continue like i already i'm gonna probably get right into it either way though yeah good for you i'm proud of you what do you guys want to do for 2023 what is it i know you guys have a growing family oh yeah well bitch i got my two side oh that's it maybe number six maybe on the way were the twins uh a surprise um so i mean we were definitely not using protection or anything but like definitely unexpected see when she told me she had twins i was like i thought i was gonna have three i was like okay i'm fine with three his mom he was like his mom had three he was like, I thought that I was going to have three. I was like, okay, I'm fine with three. His mom, he was like, his mom had three. He was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:07 He like, they put the little sonogram thing and Josh was talking about some, oh shit. Oh no. And I told her, I was like, listen, I was like, when we get home, I need you to find the title to my Harley. And she was like, why? And I was like, I'm going to have to sell my boat too. Oh no. And she's like, why are we selling all this shit?
Starting point is 00:58:22 I was like, we're going to have to fucking build an addition onto the house bro she's like what tell me what the fuck is going on i was like there's two she was like josh was in the room and she was like josh she was like josh said um i've she's done this a lot and i've never seen two of them yeah he's like i've never seen two in there at the same time wow that sonogram chick the nurse and i was like listen i was like i've been around twice yeah I'm a seasoned vet most definitely I was like and I've never seen two so she was like congratulations I was like you're like yeah maybe for you but now you guys have the babies and right you just and what are what's all of their names there's Ella Ella. So we have Ella, Bentley, Silas, and Stella.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Aww. I love that. And then Lana. And then Lana. I love that. Ella literally thanks Lana's her sister. You guys have really turned your shit around, and I'm really proud of you guys. If nobody's told you guys, I'm sure millions do, but I'm really proud of you guys.
Starting point is 00:59:21 It's like our whole hearted lead, though. You know what I'm saying? From another million besides you and Jenna and's like how wholeheartedly though. You know what I'm saying? From another million besides you. Yeah. And shit like that. Yeah, no. It's just, it's really cool for you guys are just really leading by example. And kids that come from the same story and have the same drug addicted parents can look at you guys and be like, dude, look at them.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Alana's about to graduate high school. Pumpkin's a fucking bomb ass mom. She's married to a great dude who fucking has her back you know like that's what the world needs to see and if the tv show was fucking smart they're gonna hate this they would fucking hone in on that a lot more on that storyline you know because i think that there's so much more than the drama absolutely like drama's toxic very we need there's so much toxicity in this world already we We need the love. The love needs to be shown. I mean, it had to come to a point, you know, like after all that shit, like even with my mom, like I had to cut her off because it was just like.
Starting point is 01:00:11 So are you guys not talking right now? Like it's strictly what feels like almost like a business relationship. You know, like she strictly gives me the $800 a month. But like every so often she'll do this like bashing thing on TikTok about me and she'll be like on live and she'll be like, well, pumpkin. I don't know. She was like, bashing thing on TikTok about me. And she'll be, like, on live. And she'll be like, well, Pumpkin, I don't know. She was like, I was late on the child support, she said, because I don't know if Pumpkin's account is overdrawn or not. Like, you know that I've been doing very well on social media for myself. When I say, like, very well, like, very decently well.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Right. More than what you would think somebody's supposed to make in a year. Yeah. And you're going to say some shit like that on social media right that's just jealousy right it's pure jealousy she's very jealous of that her and her husband both recently she wants you to hurt like she does yeah and recently she just like started reaching out to us like sent us this big long text was about how she was so sorry i think me and you talked about that um yeah and you just don't believe it and i like it's hard for me to believe because right now i feel like she only is saying
Starting point is 01:01:11 that stuff because she needs me to do something for her she wants all those girls to get up and walk her down the aisle for her wedding like next year wherever the hell it's gonna be so it's this pity text message trying to get these two and jessica to participate in something that right she wants done and And guess what? It always goes back to what we said at the beginning of this. It's only about her. It's very selfish. I feel like, me personally, I don't want to do it because she hasn't been there for all of us.
Starting point is 01:01:35 What makes you think that we should be there for you? Is it being televised? Yes. Oh, well, there you go. So you know I'll probably have to be there. Yeah, there you go. You'll have to do it for the but it is as of right now like i mean i talked to her she texted me while i was in vegas but
Starting point is 01:01:50 that's just being nosy i already know she's like you know how's bub and angela and then i'm like you don't really care about any of that stuff yeah like you just want to see how i'm doing you can give a damn list dude she really can care care less i hate that for you guys but 2023 what do you guys want to do that is for you not revolved around your mom nothing i think that like i'm just gonna keep doing me i'm gonna try to keep building my like social media stuff yeah you're crushing it man i really want to do youtube like that that is definitely my next you've got the following now on tiktok it'll just translate over that's that's definitely something that i want to try to do youtube like that that is definitely my next you've got the following now on tiktok it'll just translate over that's that's definitely something that i want to try to do like if i'm gonna i can't work because it's very hard like if i was to go and work a regular
Starting point is 01:02:34 job like somebody's gonna watch somebody's gonna watch my kids and i do not trust everybody it's very hard i mean like come on i told you earlier absolutely rightfully so that you guys don't trust people. I get it. Right. So it's very hard, you know? And like, if I was to work,
Starting point is 01:02:49 like my check would strictly be go into the business to where you can work from home. That's definitely what I want to do. We definitely talk about making a business, like a boutique or something. I definitely enjoy being at home with my kids. You guys can do an online boutique. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yeah. And that, cause you know, in-store boutiques are, everybody's getting closed down now, but online boutique. Definitely. And that because, you know, in-store boutiques are everybody's getting closed down now. But online boutiques like we need a cool,
Starting point is 01:03:10 especially out here in the South. They don't have. Yeah. And like a cheaper one because there's a lot of like people that I've seen.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah. Like one shirt would be like $50. Yeah. Come on, bro. Like I've been that girl before wanting the cute little like boutique clothes
Starting point is 01:03:21 and like a plus size girl too. There's not much of it. Yeah. I think you guys are onto something. I just want to do my own thing like he wants to do like a food truck or something yeah he wants to talk about right now is the time to do a philly cheese steak truck really josh loves tacos and philly cheese day i mean who doesn't i do i love that shit too swinging and making both so yeah i love that hold your microphone yeah i just stopped even reminding him i think it'll be welcome back to jimmy fallon i think it would be hilarious for people to hold
Starting point is 01:03:50 it at least right here so you can hear me well i just want to thank you guys yeah oh god i just want to thank you guys for coming on the podcast and thank you guys thank you for having us thank you thank you guys for being so open and i hope people now can actually kind of feel your side of the story and hear, you know, the behind the scenes that people didn't get to hear. A lot of shit I didn't know, you know, and it's just like puts a lot of things into perspective. And I just want to say you guys are just amazing people. You guys got to come back. Well, definitely.
Starting point is 01:04:21 You better come back. This is like our monthly trip. Yeah, yearly. At least once a year, you guys got to come back this is like our like monthly trip yearly at least once a year you guys gotta come back each season alright well thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of dumb blonde I will see you guys next week bye

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