Dumb Blonde - Season 9: Best of (Part 4)

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

In this “Best of Season 9” episode, Bunnie introduces her new pup, Moon Cake, and shares the wild story of rescuing her. The convo takes a spooky twist with the mysterious disappearance of the Annabelle doll. Dr. Leah Cordovez joins to talk women’s health, covering endometriosis and perimenopause.TJ Osborne from Brothers Osborne opens up about his mental health struggles, coming out, and finding peace. Roseanne Barr shares their spiritual journey, the challenges of being a truth teller, and how faith transformed their life. Wiz Khalifa swings by to talk music, MMA, psychedelics, and his vision for the ultimate strip club. The episode wraps with hilarious banter about aliens and strip club rules.Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, it's the coven baby. Hi, hello. You guys get low energy today. I've been going through it man. So I am not feeling great. How. You guys get low energy today. I've been going through it, man. So I am. Not feeling great. How are you guys?

I've been feeling weird, too. I know you poor baby. What is going on, man? I know what point is from. I think it's in the air. We both had a breakdown the same night and didn't even know it until like two days after. Why did you guys have breakouts for?

And like three other people I know also couldn't sleep that day and had like weird vibes. And I was like, maybe it's something with the moon. And then Mimi sent me a video about like clouds and all kinds of different stuff. Yeah, very conspiracy theorists of me, but yeah. Same exact night, I ended up on the couch in a ball. And even Olivia was like, nobody talk, mom is sleeping. I could hear her cause I just had like the blanket up to my eyes on the couch in a ball. And even Olivia was like, nobody talk, mom is sleeping.

I could hear her, because I just had the blanket up to my eyes on the couch. What happened? I just had a, and it was like a light switch. No, literally, like, I told you, I got depressed out of nowhere. I'm talking like very depressed. When I was on that live Saturday night,

anytime someone asked a question, I just wanted to start crying. Aw. It's just so weird. It's so weird it would be the same day. Yeah, that was crazy. It was the 26th? 24th. 24th.

It was the 24th. Saturday. I think it's time we all, well, I already know what's causing mine, but I think you guys need to get your hormones checked. I do. You guys are at that age. And plus you guys have, well, are you still on the GLP one?

You're on the, on the- Hearted. Did she, you farted, you're on the GLP one. So that is going to wreck your hormones too, or help that your hormones. You never know. So I think you need to, is it that bad? I'm going to. You guys are the ones who wanted to bring the dog. So, and I haven't even talked about the dog or introduced her on line yet. Should I?

My eyes are watering. Should I just hold her up? You guys, welcome to the family. Mooncake D-Ford. I'm her Babs. This is Bailey's dog that we saved. Should I tell the story? Bailey might not have a dog anymore.

No, you know. I listen. I offered her to you first and you said no. She's having regret. Buyers regret. She's like I should have done it. I know it was going to be this one. All right. So let me tell you guys the story behind this really quick. I know I'm going to get some hate for this and it's OK. Growing up in Vegas, puppy stores are a staple.

I never knew anything other than puppy stores. I knew puppy stores. Literally, there's a puppy store. There was a puppy store on every corner. Growing up in Vegas, if you are from Vegas, you know exactly what I'm talking about. And anytime I was sad, anytime I just wanted to go and find a new dog,

I didn't know anything about like breeders or like rescuing puppies or anything like that. We would go to pet stores. So long story short, there, we were in Vegas this last time that we were out there and we had, I had been away from Chachi and the animals and I was just like, Oh my God, I just need to go see the puppies. And maybe if there's one that I want to bring home, then we'll get it. And to me, I'm sorry. In a way, I feel like that's rescuing puppies too.

Out of a bad situation, out of a bad situation. Yeah. Now that I know what I know about rescues and stuff like that, I also do feel like I'm rescuing an animal out of that situation. That's how we got Bussie. I literally told my husband, I'm feeling sad. I'm going to walk into a pet store and if they have a Bassett hound, I'm going to buy the Bassett hound. Lo and behold, I walk into the freaking pet store. Bussie's right there and they never have Bassett hounds ever. Big as yours. Yeah, he was so little and Bussie was the best addition were huge. Yeah, he was so little.

And Bussy was the best addition to our family and we love him so much. So anyways, I was sad, we were all in Vegas and I was missing my animals and I'm like, let's just go look at some puppies. So we walk in and instantly it's all these frou-frou dogs. I hate frou-frou dogs. You guys know I love bulldogs.

I just love an aesthetically pleasing animal. To me, a frou-frou dog is not aesthetically pleasing at all. But I look across the room and I see the prettiest like bluish green eyes looking back at me and like the just happiest little demeanor. And I walk over to her and I'm like,

what is this dog's name? And the lady goes, mooncake. And I walk over to her and I'm like, what is this dog's name? And the lady goes, mooncake. And I was like, oh my God, that is a perfect name because we literally have crunch, s'more, and then also I love the moon. I'm always talking about the moon. And I used to have a bulldog named Bocephus moon, which my friend Shelby has right now.

But anyways, we pull her out and I'm playing with her and I'm just like, oh my god, you're the cutest thing ever. I find out she's an Aquarius, right? So I called Jay and I'm like, babe, I think I'm going to bring home another dog. And he's like, I need a new dog, airplane dog. We have bus dog. I need airplane dog now. And I'm like, no, you don't get an airplane dog. I was like, but I might bring this, this dog home. And he's like, get her, get her, get her. And I'm like, okay, cool. So I'm just looking at her and I'm just like,

I don't know, man, you just don't fit the aesthetic. I just don't know if I like you like that. Like I just really was just having an internal struggle with it. And I was just like, you know, we already have so many animals at home. We don't need to add another dog. We're trying to have a baby, you know, like, no,

this is just not gonna work out. Jay's on the phone, get the fucking dog. I'm like, I'm not getting the dog. So literally he's such a bad, he'll tell you to get the animal and then never talk to it again. Yeah, literally. So anyways, I leave the pet store,

I'm, you know, just sad about the whole thing. I really just wanted to bring one of the puppies home. But I was just like, you know what? I'm making the right decision and I'm not contributing to a pet store. And you know- But comes home and talks about it and was like, you guys, this dog.

Trying to break the habit, right? And so I come home and I talk to them and I'm just like, I went and saw this dog and she was the cutest thing. Like, I just was like, I felt torn about it, but I was just like I'm putting my foot down I'm not gonna support a pet store and whatever So I come home and I still kind of thought about the dog a little bit and I was just like I wonder if she's okay whatever I opened my phone up on Instagram one day and I'm not gonna say the name of the pet store, but

there's a story, a post about a pet store in Las Vegas that is literally putting the animals in storage containers and it happened to be the fucking pet store that I saw Mooncake at. And I was like, oh my God, I left this fucking dog there to die. Like I felt so bad. I was for sure thinking like somebody had gotten her, whatever.

I hit Mimi and Haley and I was like, can you guys believe this? And I was just like, oh, my heart was breaking. And I was like, I made the wrong fucking decision. I made the wrong fucking decision. I felt so bad. And I'm like, if she's there, I'm going to fucking get her. So I call the fucking pet store and I'm like, hi, guys. I was in there a couple of weeks ago. Is moon cake still available?

And she's like, yes, she is. And I was like, oh, my God, I want her. And I was like, but I'm in Nashville, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like trying to devise a plan. Jay's gonna fly one of our employees out there to pick her up. And I'm just like, I can't just leave the dog there. I can't leave more dogs there.

Like I need to get more dogs. So I'm like, Tasha, do you want a puppy? And she's like, yeah, I want a puppy. So I found Tasha a puppy, this beautiful Merle Cocker Spaniel from the same pet store. And I call Jessie and I'm like, hello. And she's like, hi. And I'm like, so.

And I told her the whole story about the dogs, whatever. She's like, oh my God, I'm on my way right now. And I'm like, okay, and I'll fly you out here, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, and in the meantime, if you want a dog too, I'll get you one too so that we can rescue these dogs. And she's like, oh my God, I've been wanting to get Sully a friend and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, cool.

So she literally immediately stops everything, gets off her live, because we know Jessie loves her lives. And she fucking goes down to these pet stores, finds a wiener dog that she falls in love with. I'm like, cool, that's your dog. We get the Cocker Spaniel and we secure Mooncake. Jessie is literally two hours in on this fucking deal,

hops on a plane with two fucking animals and comes straight to my door by midnight the same day and we rescued three of the doggies. Yeah, I don't, listen, I don't like talking shit about things that I don't know the whole story. I just know what I saw and I just sprung into action because I was just like, fuck no. Like this is not gonna happen.

You know, karma will get, if that's really what's happening over there, karma will definitely get them. You can't treat animals like that. Like what the fuck? And it's already being brought to the light because that's how you saw it. It's running across your feed.

So someone is out there doing their due diligence to find the truth in that situation. Yeah, absolutely. Baby saved a baby. Did you guys see that Annabelle's missing? Yes. Wait, what? You didn't know that?

No, I knew that they moved her to New Orleans. She visited the plantation and then that burned down. And then that one- Sending it to you right now, baby. Who's house burnt down? I know about those in New Orleans, right? Someone's like, did she visit that one too? And then apparently, yeah, she's missing.

How is a doll just missing? Yeah, so this explains it. A haunted ass doll. Oh, you want me to send it to your TikTok? Okay. We need to go to New Orleans. Not right now, not while that bitch is on the loose. No!

What are you trying to make it? What are you talking about? We're in the rental and we just look in the backseat and there's, and she's hanging on, like chucking her dear life, just fucking riding the waves of the wind with the wind in her hair. No, I'm good. Now let's get her contained and then maybe, yes.

Shit. I've already got enough weird spooky shit going on in my life. You know what I'm saying? Here we go. The animal doll is missing. She was on her way to Chicago to continue her world tour and somehow has been misplaced.

Listen, Lorraine tried to warn you. She said this doll should never be moved because it's extremely dangerous and could unleash evil spirits. A day after she left New Orleans, also 10 prisoners escaped around the same time she was there. Now the last set date of her going anywhere was in Texas on the 17th, which was a couple of days ago.

Now it isn't fully official that she is missing, but according to a lot of people, they don't know where she is. Arguably one of the most haunted dolls in reported history, said to have people who have looked at her long enough, get into insane car accidents and almost lose their life because they ended up seeing her in their rear view mirror. This is not a doll that I would hear in the rear view mirror

like you just said. No, thank you. That's fucking weird. Can we talk about the fact that Ann. This is not a doll that I would hear in the rear view mirror, like you just said. No, thank you. Can we talk about the fact that Annabelle's on a world tour? Is that a world tour or a girls tour? Like, what is happening? What is fucking, who's fucking mastermind brainiac idea was behind, like, let's take this fucking crazy ass demonic doll on a tour to fucking terrorize every city she goes in.

And like that building burns down. Someone probably burnt the doll. Like, what? That's scary, you guys. Did you see the videos? It literally looked like spirits leaving that plantation, though. No, I didn't see that. I saw I knew that it was burned.

I didn't see the video, though. But where was she before she went on her fucking world tour? Oh, I have no idea. I thought she in that one Let's find out because was she like contained or was she like she's always in this like glass box so her being behind a glass box keeps her from blowing shit up or Spirits No, it's like where did she live? keeps her from blowing shit up or? I keep all those spirits. No, it's like, where does she live? Where does Annabelle live?

It's some kind of museum. Yeah, where did Annabelle live before her world tour? Where did? It's a schedule. Oh. Can we book her? Yeah. No.

Did she come on the podcast? Hell no. Oh, she lived in a museum in Connecticut. She was transported to New Orleans for a paranormal tour return. In May. Before being returned to Connecticut. So she got lost in Texas.

Yeah, in transit, she's now missing. Yeah, the Warrens Museum. The Warrens were the ones that were in Conjuring. Oh. Those are the- No, thank you. That couple that went to the Conjuring house. No, thank you. Don't want it.

Which is real. What's the backstory though? Like, why is she so possessed? Do we know? Because I've always heard about how she's so crazy and they have movies about her, right? Yeah, there isn't. But why is she so possessed?

Like what made her this fucking crazy dog? Isn't there a spirit of a little girl in her or something, but it takes on a demon. Was a little girl like demon who's used to manipulate and terrorize humans. Yeah, but how did she get possessed? And why did they choose this doll? You know, like there's a spirit. Don't just hop into the vessel. The demon manipulates the doll to appear possessed by a young girl tricking its owners.

Yeah. The demon uses the doll to terrorize owners, creating a climate of fear. The demon tricks its owners. So why- It's using the doll. Why the rag doll though? Yeah, that's what I'm not understanding.

Well, it was from a long, long time ago, so that might've been the only thing around maybe. Oh, that's true. But that's why I hate dolls. I hate statues, dolls, gnomes, anything like that. Horseland dolls, bye. Yeah, I've never been a doll person either. Okay, it says that Annabelle doll is considered evil

because according to the Warrens, it was not possessed by a child spirit but by a demon seeking to possess a human. It was not the doll itself that was evil but the demonic entity that used it as a- Wow. What does it say right underneath this though? Because there is another part, keep going down, where right here it says why they say that the doll behaved strangely and a psychic medium told the student the doll was inhabited by the spirit of a deceased girl named oh so the girl was named Annabelle. Okay and was she like abused like why is she so fucking just ready to fuck everybody up? Frightening behavior what made the Annabelle doll evil?

Click on that. Yeah I feel like we're learning a lot about Annabellese. The conjuring universe. learning a lot about Annabell's. The Conjuring universe. All right. According to the Warrens, the original Annabelle doll was purchased as a gift and soon after strange and unsettling occurrences began, leading them to believe that it was demonic. We can totally keep our relationship private.

No, do you want to or no? No, no, I'm fine. Okay, I was like, oh. I don't wanna like out you two. No, do you want to or no? No, no, I'm fine. Okay. I was like, I don't want to like out you to. No, I wanted to brag to everybody. What are you kidding? You fucking put up with my shit all the time. Like what shit?

No, there's no shit. I literally have a crisis every fucking week. Oh my God. Every week I'm texting this woman. I'm like, what is happening? I have a new one. No, I have a new one. I haven't even texted you about.

I fricking have like this pain in my left side. This is gonna get graphic, I'm sorry. But. Hi, Mary, are you recording? Yep. Oh, are you? Okay. Okay.

We can do it on the podcast. Cause I have no shame. All right, so I was just about to tell you guys my ailment, but let me welcome my favorite human in the world, Dr. Leah Cordova, but I call her Dr. C. And this woman I'm telling you is just a gift from God. And once you guys hear her story and actually get to like hear her speak today on the podcast,

you guys are gonna fall in love with her just as much as I am. Dr. C, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. It's so cool. Dude, I'm happy to have you here. You just have always had the best energy. Thank you.

It's amazing. So I was just going into why I love you so much too is because I literally call you every week with a crisis. You're like my personal doctor. I love it. Anytime I have an ailment, which is every day, I literally text this woman freaking out. I'm like, do I need a CAT scan?

Do I need to do this? What's happened? Like last week, my eye, that was a crazy thing that was going on with my eye and she healed it. It was fine. And she always is so calm. You're so calm. Like when I call you freaking out, you're just like,

no, this is how you got to do it. Let's do this. Don't freak out. Everything's fine. So yeah. Well, calm, it doesn't come easy, but it comes with time and all of the things that you send me are super easy. It's so much better to just call me. Don't don't even worry about freaking out. I've seen everything at least 10 times. Yeah. That makes it easy. Yeah. So I was just telling you about my new ailment.

So while you're here, let's talk about it. What you got? I keep having this pain on my left-hand side when I orgasm, when I poop, and sometimes when I pee. It like, and I've Googled it and they said it's diverticulitis. Okay. And I'm like freaking out now,

because you know how I am. I try to fix things. So just at rest, it doesn't hurt. No, at rest, it doesn't hurt. But if I'm pushing out, or if my muscles are spasming, it hurts. So that means that something moving in there has to has to move to so something has to move in there to irritate it, which means it's probably something that's inflamed, a ligament, a muscle, it might be a little bit of an ovarian cyst, but something is irritated in there. And when it could be, your hip flexor can be up that high. But if it's something that comes and goes, and I tell everybody this, the bad, bad

things come and stay. Yeah, they're not going to come say hi, I'll be back next week. If it's really bad, it's going to come and stay. Yeah, they're not going to come say hi, I'll be back next week. If it's really bad, it's going to come and stay. Diverticulitis doesn't let you go until you do something about it. So see what I'm saying? She always calms me down. I would say it's something inflamed. And if it persists a long, long time, or it gets worse or it lasts longer, it starts happening at rest, then that's when I'd want to see you and maybe think about an ultrasound or a scan. But nothing is as good as somebody who knows you.

And I think that helps it be calm. I know you, I know how healthy you are, and it's easy for me to, no, it's not that, but it's not that ridiculous. It ain't. I love it. She looks at my blood work too. This woman knows the roadmap to my soul.

So well, it's easy to work with Danny, right? Yeah. And so you, how do you and Danny know each other? Cause all of you guys know Danny who comes on the podcast. You guys absolutely love her. She is friends with Danny. Also, how do you guys know each other? Well, we're colleagues. So she's a, an integrative nurse practitioner and I am a doctor who did internal medicine. So I trained in the Western internal medicine system and I did a two year fellowship in integrative medicine. So what that means is I can bring the science and the nature into whatever needs to be done to make you better. So Danny does a lot of integrative and I do a mixture of both. Yes. So we're similar, but just a little different.

What about like a like a 45 year old, hairy menopausal woman who can't lose the last five pounds? Oh, my God. First of all, the practicing obesity medicine in 2025, I said before is unlike anything we have ever seen. So these injections, whatever your thoughts are about them, they are potent in the in the gut, in the brain and in those areas that control hunger, cravings and satiety, we have never had a medicine that shuts off those messages like these do. There's a lot of genetics and a lot of hormones involved in what you crave and how much you

eat and how much calories you burn. It is not calories in, calories out. So a 45-year-old, and even from 40 to 50, that perimenopause, your brain starts getting messages that your ovaries, the hormones that your ovaries produce, your brain starts getting messages about storing adipose tissue in your midsection. So as our estrogen sputters, we tend to create a little bit more fat deposits in the midsection. Have you noticed? Yeah. So with that, with that type of person, we would probably track macros, keep the estrogen testosterone as stable as possible, not over exercise because what we want to do is tell your body that it's safe to release those fat stores. So

your body will protect you by hanging on to them, but it's safe to release. So kind, gentle exercise and don't poke the insulin bear with carbs. How do you feel about weightlifting? I feel amazing. Yeah, because doesn't weightlifting spike insulin also though, too? So weightlifting, it can do different things to different people. But the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn just sleeping. Yeah. So, and the more muscle you have, the more muscle you will have as you get older. So by the time you're 50, you start losing 2% of muscle mass a year, unless you're doing something about it. So I feel amazing about weightlifting. Right. And if there's an excuse why you're not doing it,

get over it. Yeah, do it. No, I love it. I weightlift five times a week now. Like I'm on it. So I have a Patreon community that is obsessed with all things medical. Lay down, son.

And we're gonna go over there and take some questions from them, if that's okay with you. Let's do it. Let's go. Let's do it. All right, so the first question that we have for you is from Shannon.

And she said, "'I struggle so much with my stage four endometriosis "'to where I'm worried I'll not be able "'to continue working. "'Do you have any advice at this point? "'Would be great as many of us women struggle with endo and it seems no one is talking about it? Yeah, this is, this is endometriosis is an inflammatory, uh, the what's causing pain

is inflammation of these little tiny deposits. So every time a woman menstruate has a period, the ovule should go into the fallopian tube and drop through the vagina as part of your period. In people that have endometriosis, the ovule has fallen outside so that there's little pieces of tissue that are hormone receptive, just either stuck to your colon or to your bladders somewhere. They've landed in your pelvis. Every single month when they get the trigger from the estrogen and progesterone surges, they start swelling up and getting inflamed. So the pain from endometriosis comes from inflammation.

Anything you can do, there's medicines, there's surgery, and I'm not a GYN, but anything you can do to decrease the inflammation will help with the pain. Calcium and magnesium before periods help with the inflammation of the endometriosis and sugar is no good. Yes. Sugar is the devil. So it goes, I love it. I love that devil. Uh, but it,

it doesn't serve us well when it increases inflammation. So gluten is super inflammatory. Sugar is super inflammatory alcohol because it's mostly, um, sugars are super inflammatory. So if you wanted to try to mitigate that pain, just for shits and giggles, see what happens when you decrease your sugar, just maybe the two weeks before your period. I haven't had sugar in two and a half years and it's been a game changer. Right. My body.

Yeah. Change it for my body and for my mental health. Yep. My anxiety used to be at a 22. My anxiety is at a two now. If I start having a panic attack, I can control it. Like it's, it's been a godsend. I don't think people realize how bad sugar just wreaks havoc on your body.

For sure. Because when you don't have, when you, when you have it a lot and you don't have it, you go into withdrawals and it feels horrible. It's like a drug addiction. Horrible. Awful. But once you get through those first three days and you become a, I really don't eat sugar. How long has it been since I've eaten? So I'm not at a year yet, but I decided, okay, sugar is just not my friend. And you're totally right. My mood is a lot more steady. Things don't hurt like they used to. I can sleep so much better. Yeah. Yeah.

And sugar, everything has sugar. Let's talk about sleep for a second. Oh yeah. So I know a lot of people like love to sleep. And I mean, as a teenager, you can sleep like the dead. As you get older, that sleep pattern changes. Why does that sleep pattern change? Why are some women waking up at four o'clock

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back to sleep. And then as we get older, we wake up and we start thinking that plant plant in the front man, I'm getting too much sun. And then you start going through the Rolodex of all the things to worry about. That's number one is get a hold of that train that wants to take you to worrying about stuff in the middle of the night that you can't do anything about. Right. Number one. Number two, it, a lot of it's related to hormones. And then as we age, you just don't need as much sleep. And it's related to how many cycles of REM.

But- So you don't need as much sleep the older you get. You don't need as much sleep, correct. That's why your grandma gets up at four. Yeah. Yeah. But she's asleep by six. Right.

Yeah. But is grandma still getting eight hours in though? No, no. Her body simply doesn't need eight hours. So as we get older, how much sleep do you think we need? About five. I like, I think the magic, and this is

individual, but the magic number is five because you can go into enough REM cycles to reset your brain and it's only during sleep that you can erase everything from the day before. Wow. Otherwise, if you're not sleeping and you're not resting, your brain remembers the car that almost hit you at the Kroger parking lot and things that have no no business in today are still

in there. So rest, especially, especially really good deep sleep, clears your brain, prepares you for learning. And that's when you heal wounds. Yeah, that's amazing way to look at it. I'm like absorbing it because that's so real. Yeah, because I get probably about six hours of sleep a night and I've there's some days that I wake up at five hours and I'm like ready it because that's so real. Because I get probably about six hours of sleep a night. And there's some days that I wake up at five hours and I'm like ready to rock and roll. But then I tell myself, I'm like, should I get three more hours?

Because everybody says you need to get eight to 10 hours of sleep. And I'm like, first of all, who has the time? Secondly, sometimes I don't want to sleep eight to 10 hours. And if you could give yourself a gift, if you could give yourself the gift of sleep, give it to yourself on the front end. So go to sleep early rather than staying asleep longer because the quality, quality stuff that heals you is at the beginning of the night.

Yeah. Wow. Okay. I didn't know that. And I have been trying to make myself go to sleep early and I just can't do it. But okay, so here's another question from Gina. She said, do you have any home remedies for H. pylori when antibiotics don't work? What a great question. So I do not, I do not. That's the short answer. But H. pylori is a bacteria and then there's a little bit of controversy about this, whether it's a bacteria that's always in your gut, that doesn't cause any problems and it lives happily with the others. But the general consensus in medicine is H. pylori can cause ulcers and those ulcers can cause gastric cancer.

So in general, we want to get rid of H. pylori. The gold standard for diagnosing H. pylori is either a stool antigen or a breath test. If you're diagnosing H. pylori in blood then you're getting a false positive because once you've had it and you treat it you will always have the antibodies. So if you took the medicine for H. pylori, you eradicated it, but you're checking your blood to see if it's still there, then you're always gonna be positive,

but the H. pylori is not actually there. Well. So before you do any home remedies, make sure that what you're seeing is not just the antibodies, because just like anybody who's ever had mono, you're gonna see mono antibodies, and not necessarily the mono infection. So they would need to take a stool sample. Yes.

A stool sample or a breath test and advocate for yourself. Yes. Tell your doctor, Hey, I really want to know whether it's just the antibody or whether I have a reinfection. I'm telling you there's nothing more humbling than pooping in a lunch cart. Correct. I'm the hot dog container. You never just feel so humbled to just stand in a bathroom holding a log. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. There's few things. Yeah. Yeah. Things. I don't, and everybody always wants to do those and I'm like, can we not?

I'm like, yeah, I just don't, but you know what? They're necessary. So you guys please do it. Yeah. Um, Brandy wants to do those. And I'm like, can we not? I'm like, I just don't, but you know what? They're necessary. So you guys please do it. Brandy wants to know, how do you stop perimenopause itching? I've heard this so much from women that say that they get like the worst itching. You mean vaginal itching? I'm not sure.

I've heard people say that it's on their skin and their ears, like, but it does it happen in the vagina too? Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's where I mostly, that's where, that's where most of the itching occurs. New fear unlocked. Yes. Holy fucking shit balls. But I'm here for you. Okay. I'm going to be dragging my hoot manny on the fucking carpet like a dog.

Yeah. So. It's going gotta be rough. During perimenopause, there's so many estrogen and progesterone surges, there's receptors for estrogen everywhere, your skin, your brain, your organs, and your vagina. So when your levels are sputtering, things change.

So in that case, I would, and there's not a real easy way to diagnose perimenopause except to look at the constellation of symptoms. And they're super, super quiet. So you don't really know your perimenopausal until you felt crazy for two years. Right. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Or one of your kids says, Mom.

Yeah. Or a Keith Sweats song doesn't hit like it used to. Right. You lose patience. You lose libido. You lose motivation and you don't really know that this is happening. So if you're itching and anything else is happening, then be on the lookout for prior menopause symptoms that you can control and go talk to somebody about it. You could do things like black cohosh. You could do, you

could try plant sterols that could, that could mimic or you could just get on a hormone. Yeah. Which we know are safe. Yeah. Do you suggest HRT for women who are perimenopausal and menopausal? If that's right for you,

if that's right for the patient, then I don't, I don't have a single solitary problem. And when I go, I want a little bit of gel. Make sure I have some on. There's just so many receptors that estrogen is so important for. I love estrogen.

I love estrogen. When I was going through my IVF stems, my body was loving the estrogen. Hated the progesterone. Yeah. Loved the estrogen though. Yeah. Yeah. My estrogen levels were like over like 1500, I think. And I was, I felt great. Yeah. I was fucking thriving. Yeah. No itching. No itching. No itching. I don't ever have any itching. I haven't had itching yet. Thank God. But you know, listen, I've heard, I sympathize with these women who have to go through all of that. Today, I have the boys on the couch, Brothers Osborne,

the brothers who have rocked country music, redefined brotherhood and proved that being different might just be your greatest hit. Welcome boys. I love that, thank you. Thank you, I worked hard on that. That made me feel good. Good.

Yeah. I love you guys. My husband loves you good. Good. I love you guys. My husband loves you guys. Well, we love you guys. Honestly, I feel like, I mean, you know, his career is just like taken off to the stratosphere, but in such short period of time, but I love that I've gotten to know you guys

just a little bit before that happened, you guys haven't changed at all. That's awesome. We appreciate you guys. And I have always been obsessed with you because of how you dress. It's so cowboy couture. And I'm just like, it's so like tailored and just perfect.

Every time I see you, I'm like, this outfit is fucking amazing. Thank you. There's a lot coming from you. Well, I mean, where does the style, the sense of style come from? Is it something that you obsess about? I think it's a multiple things.

One, it's probably the fact that I'm a gay man. Yeah, well, yes. And they're somewhere, it certainly doesn't hurt. Right. Um, and then, uh, you know, we, we have stylists that help with this stuff. And of course Abby is very stylish. So, you know, it's, that's always at the last, you know, every time I like, even I got dressed for the awards and Mike, this jacket, this jacket. Yeah, no, it's always, it's, it's amazing.

Even when I was a kid, I kind of loved wearing oddly. I mean, before I even had any clue what my sexuality was, when I look back now, I'm like, oh my God, you were so gay. Like I would wear like striped shirt, like a TGI Fridays red and white striped shirt with like a bow tie when I was like eight. That's hot though. It's his choice.

I love that. I would show up like, got my hair up, super neat. Yeah. It's kind of like a have you seen righteous gemstones? Of course. I just watched the finale last night. So the latest season when there's the what's this character? He's the little boy. Yes. Yes. Yes. I was that was basically me as a no. I think that's phenomenal because fashion I have. I love fashion. So even as a kid, like I wore a plaids, a red plaid skirt and an, I rode the bullet Gillies t-shirt all the time.

And you couldn't tell me any different, but I always, but even when I think back to it now, like I wear like band tees and like plaid skirts still. And it's like, it's sometimes it's something you're, you're just born with too. I know. Isn't that weird? Well, like John's kids, you know, he's got twins. The twins. Yeah.

And to watch just one, just be a boy and the girl, you know, she just naturally, like, she couldn't even speak yet. And she showed up. I don't know if it was to Christmas or something or Thanksgiving. And she has this, she's a year and a half and she's like, check out, check this out. She's like, she does like a turn and she's looking at it. She's like, ah, like check this bad. She's got uncle TJ's fashion sense. I love that. Covered in dirt and his own gunk, he's got my fashion sense.

He's just all boy. Yeah. I love that. So you said you had a story to tell me that I was- Yeah, so this is probably a year and a half ago. This is on the record. This is on the record. It's on the record, baby.

This was a year ago, a year and a half ago. It was not long after we had kids, and my wife gets hit up from her management. She's an artist as well, amazing singer songwriter and yeah, you got asked to do your podcast. Right. And she was like, okay, yeah, I'm not sure why I don't really have any music out, but you know, we've talked about like fertility stuff and kids and she's like, maybe she wants to maybe go into that or whatever. Turned out it was a scam.

Oh no. Yes. And it was basically someone said, well, you have to sign on, but you have to give us like log into your computer so we can access it from afar. And Lucy signed on and then got kind of freaked out and was like, this doesn't seem right.

And then closed the tab. Fortunately, they didn't like go in and get all of our information, but they were seconds away from it. And she thought she was doing her podcast. Isn't that sad? I told you it was a little bit tragic. I know.

I hate that. People, the scam shit is just getting so out of control. It is. That's so specific to not only like, I get if you're like, if you're sitting like, you know, I'm a prince from Africa and you sit down, 10 million. Remember the Nigerian scams that were.

The Nigerian prince scams that were he could do. But this is so, this is so specific targeted at people where they would go, I, they probably know that we know you guys at least to some degree. Yeah. And I was kind of, I know I was a little pissed, but also kind of impressed about the, the move, the scam. No, the way that they can even access people is just kind of, it's really

scary. I know someone was actually texting her mom pretending to be me, but the thing I was in the room with my mom, she's like, is that you? And I'm like, what me? He's like, are you texting me? I'm like, why will I text you? Why is it old people always fall for it? I know.

Well, that's like, that's the saddest part. They're often victims of that stuff, which honestly, I feel like I'm pretty savvy and there's still all the time. I'm like, that's the saddest part. They're often victims of that stuff, which honestly, I feel like I'm pretty savvy and there's still all the time. I'm like, is this UPS? Yeah. Well, Lucy was really obsessed. She was like, I feel like such an idiot, but I'm like, look, but it came through your management.

It wasn't like she got an email somewhere from a sketchy ass website. I get emails from John all the time. It's like, check out these pictures. And I'm like, my brother would never send me a picture. He doesn't open any of my dick pics. What the hell? Look at these pictures. I'm like, my brother would never send me a picture. He doesn't, he doesn't open any of my dick pics. I'm like, somebody would be trying to get ahold of those. There really was him the whole time.

Well, tell Lucy that I'm so sorry. And that we will have to revisit that for sure. Now that I know that she's even willing to do that. You know? Of course. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell her that. It'll make her feel good. And I actually wanted to talk about you guys

as IVF Journey 2 on the podcast, which we'll get into it later. I want to kind of paint a picture for my viewers at home who don't know you guys kind of like, you know, your rise to fame. So if we could start, you know, where you guys grew up and go from there, tell me a little bit about your childhood.

And what inspired you guys? Yeah, well, I mean, it's an interesting thing because for those who don't know, we're East Coast boys. We grew up in a little tiny water community called Deal, Maryland. And to a lot of people that do know that, they're always so surprised to hear that. They're like, how do you get into country music

being from there? And we shot our music video for a song, one of our first singles called Rum in our hometown, to kind of give people a bit of a look-see into where we grew up, because it makes total sense when you see it. And on the new music that we're working on, we kind of are going back to visiting that again, where we're having a lot of, we'll

go back and shoot videos and stuff back there in the hometown. But yeah, I mean, it's a very blue collar town. It's paradise. I mean, we grew up on the Chesapeake Bay. How beautiful was that? It was so beautiful and an amazing place to grow up. But you know, a lot of places like that tend to be, you know, like really fancy.

It was not, I mean, it was really blue collar. Right. And so growing up around there, it was usually like, you know, people were mostly listening to rock or they listen in a country, which is pretty, I think for us to kind of have the blend of both, I think makes total sense. You have been so vocal about your mental health. I feel like the year 2020 and 2021 were big years for you guys. Both like it was almost like, I don't know if like Saturn was in you guys' charts at that time.

Is Saturn like a thing you want? Oh, that's daddy Saturn. You learn all the lessons. Really? If you don't learn that lesson, it comes back around and it repeats itself. Oh, shit, okay. So it's like the opposite of Mercury in retrograde,

because I feel like Mercury is always in retrograde. Yeah, literally. It's always doing something. Can Mercury chill out? So Saturn's what you want. Can Mercury just fuck off, please? Because like Mercury chill out? Like, so it's Saturn's what you want. Can Mercury just fuck off, please? Cause like all together, I get so frustrated with it.

So Saturn's will be okay. I'm going to get a Saturn tattoo. Daddy Saturn. Daddy Saturn. So I feel like you guys both had really hard years in 2020 to 2021. You went through something with your mental health. Can we dive into that?

Yeah, absolutely. At the end of 2019, I've always struggled with anxiety and like I've teetered into depression here and there, but it's mostly anxiety and I don't know, it went unchecked for a long time. I've never struggled with addiction, fortunately. You know, I drink and do some other things recreationally for fun, but I've never been addicted to it

But I am addicted to work I'm a workaholic I just work and work and work and when things are getting harder for me instead of me stopping I'm like no I can work harder and then I can work my way through it Well, apparently you can only do that for so long and at the end of 2019 We were on on the road We were on tour with Willie Nelson Alison Krauss anditt, who were like, I don't know, like of our Mount Rushmore growing up,

that's probably three of the four. And I felt nothing. I was just depressed, confused, tired, I wasn't sleeping. And then I ended up getting something called tinnitus or tinnitus, some people call it, ringing in my ears. And I still have it, long story short, I'm in a good place with that now, but at the time, it was a perfect circle of a lot of things and I was being tormented not only from my ears

driving me crazy, but my mind also driving me crazy and I wasn't sleeping. And I ended up pulling out of that tour, which is nuts to me. Like I would have to think that I did that now. It's like, again, I would still just jump for joy if I was on that tour. Peace is priceless though.

And you know, to get peace. It is, it is. And that is such an underrated thing. We think of all the things we want, but peace is mad. I know, but when you're in pursuit of this dream, it's hard, it's a hard one to catch. You know, it's very fleeting. It's like trying to catch your shadow.

It's always right there, but you never quite get it. And you unfortunately neglect a lot of things that need attention in your life. And for me, it was mental health. And for other people, it's maybe physical health, family, and a lot of other things. Is that something you struggled with as a child too? Or did it happen just to risk?

Yeah, I did. I was quite, you know, very shy as a kid. When I played the guitar, it was like, oh my God, this is how I know how to speak. I, I did. I was quite, you know, very shy as a kid. When I played guitar, it was like, oh my God, this is how I know how to speak. I know how to be myself. I had like an oasis, you know? And I found like friends that were also

like geeky musician nerds. I'm like, oh, these are my people. But I've always struggled with it. And I still do, but I'm in a lot better place. So I ended up going, there's a place in town called Onsight. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but it's very big in the music community. We love Miles Adcox.

Miles is amazing. Miles is one of the people I talked to before I went there. I ended up going to something called Milestones where they send the real crazy people. That's where I went. And it was really hard. It was probably the hardest. I was there for three weeks.

The first week I was like, get me the fuck out of here. And one day they were like, look, you're not institutionalized. Like you can leave. And once they put the ball in my court, I was like, I knew deep down I shouldn't. And I stayed and I told myself, okay, if I'm gonna stay, I'm going to just be at everything and raise my hand at every question. I'm going to immerse myself in this. And I did. And a lot of things changed. I became, I took the curiosity part of my brain

that was curious about music and guitar and all of these things. And became curious about mental health and the brain and the evolution of the brain and the prefrontal cortex versus the lower part of your brain like the limbic system and the amygdala, all these things. Like I had to go super nerd mode

because that's what my brain likes. And it allowed me to really understand this thing that we carry around in our heads that we have so little, that's so mysterious to us. And after that, I just decided to change a lot of things in my life. And since then I've had kids, which helps you have to prioritize things

once they pop up because, you know, they were not gonna give you a choice helps you have to prioritize things once they pop up because they were not gonna give you a choice, you have to prioritize them. And everything in my life is better now than it's ever been. I still struggle, but I know what to do with it now. It's amazing that you had the foresight to know like, hey, I can't leave here because I'm not okay. Yeah.

And like to really, a lot of people don't wanna do the work. You have to get through the darkness to see the light. I preach about mental health on my podcast all the time because I suffer from severe anxiety and depression also and OCD. Not that good, but no, no, I get yeah. Fuck yeah. No, I know what you say. I will say one of the things that they talked about there a lot. You said the word go when you go through it. It's something that we take as like some sort of colloquialism as if like, oh, I'm just going through something, but if you really think about the words,

think about I'm going through it, that's the only way to go through it. You can't go above it, you can't go under it, you can't go around it, you gotta go through it. But you will come out the other side. It's gonna suck, but you will come out the other side. So you have to be willing just to go through it. What do they say?

If you wanna get to it, you gotta go through it. You gotta go through it. Yeah, it's like to get to it, go through it. And also, the more you do it, almost kind of the better you become at it, the less avoidant you are of it, the more you lean into it, the more inquisitive you are about yourself

and your experiences, the more inquisitive you are about your own mental health, it just gets easier with time. It never goes away, it just gets easier. Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree with that 100%. And I preach on this podcast also that you have to do the work. It's not going to just happen overnight.

You have to rip that band-aid off and bleed again and let it scar. 100%. It's tough because you can't see it. It's like, OK, if you've got a cavity or something that's like anything, or if you were to cut yourself, it's like things you obviously need to go work on and take care of that anyone would do

and wouldn't think twice about it or apologize for it. Well, the fact that it's more part of the conversation now, like you talking about it, it's massive. Anyone that has a good outreach talking about it is going to help put it in the conversation and then destigmatize it. Oh, absolutely. And it's also part of the healing is talking about it.

100%. I mean, it's the same thing with like, I mean, being nervous. I remember when I was going on stage and I'm getting nervous, I would always try to be like, I'm not nervous, but then I was like, ah! Yeah. And it's weird how just talking about it will help.

I mean, like not trying to fight it. Like, I'm going on stage, I'm like, damn, I'm nervous as hell right now. Like it makes me feel bad. I don't know why that does help, but it does. Because you're recognizing it. Yeah, what the mind thinks the body will follow. And like when you speak words out,

it like registers with your mind. And I don't know, it's just, it's crazy. The whole psychological. And a lot of it too is processing. Like if you're nervous, you know, and sitting down and clenching your hands, your body doesn't want to do that. Your body wants to kind of get up and move.

That's what nerves are. It's a sympathetic nervous response. So if you're nervous and talking about it and kind of moving, that's really good for you. It's what your body wants. Yeah, absolutely. I'm so happy you got the help that you needed and that you're doing so much better now.

Thank you. And I wanna talk about your IVF journey, but next let's talk about TJ, 2021 was a big year for you. When did you know that you were gay? When I started liking boys. So like as a child. No, it wasn't. I thought it was funny.

It seemed to make sense to me. I thought it was funny. Yeah, he's cute. All right, I guess I'm good. No, it wasn't. I thought it was funny. I thought it was funny. No, no, I was young. I mean, really, really young. I didn't really understand it, but I mean, it was pretty, it was, I would say pretty much my whole life. I mean, it's one person comes into realizing, Oh, like you're, you're, you're cute. Or I have a crush and not really knowing what that is, I'm in pretty young age. But for a long time, of course, I denied it and fought it. And I was like, no way.

Did you deny it because you felt like you didn't have a safe space to be able to come out? No, it just didn't feel like me. I mean, I guess I like, at the time, there was a lot of the cliches of what being gay was. And not that there's anything wrong with any of that stuff. It just wasn't what I necessarily identified as. And mostly I just, I mean, I was just like a, I felt like a regular guy who likes doing redneck shit. And I was like,

this isn't, this isn't how this works. And, and it just didn't fit into my life. You know, and I was like, this isn't, you know, what I want for myself. And I just felt like the image of what I wanted myself or what I wanted for myself, like to have children and have a family and, you know, those types of things, which, you know, later in life you come to realize you certainly can have those.

That was a big- We also programmed that as a child too. 100%. You know, and I just- And that's kind of an interesting thing is because, you know, like, you know, I was like talking about like Shelly Wright, an interesting thing is because, you know, like, you know, I was like talking about like Shelley, right? Amazing artists in the nineties had a bunch of hits. Um, and she came out,

you know, as, as lesbian, but she, you know, brought this interesting point of just like, you know, being groomed, like, you know, she's like, I was groomed my whole life to be, to be straight, you know, like no one wanted this for me. Um, and I felt very similarly, I never really thought about it that way. And I actually, you know, I'm, I'm very fortunate because, you know, and this is why I don't really love to harp on it too much or be like,

oh, my life was bad. I mean, I certainly had a lot of heartbreak, but I grew up in a really good family. I mean, our parents could not have been more supportive of their children, regardless of what they did or who they were, as long as they were good people. And so I was really, really fortunate to grow up around that.

So that was like really encouraging. And then and then as you know, I came up, it was like, you kind of get, then get stuck in the narrative and it's weird to break out of it. Like, I always kind of like liking it to someone calling you the wrong name or something. And I'm like, I don't really want to tell you my name isn't John. That's my brother, but I don't want to brush your bubble cause I don't want to make you feel bad. And then you get kind of stuck in this thing

where you're like, everyone's thinking this one thing about me and it's not even hardly about me. It's more, I'm worried about them feeling bad. And there was just so many things that are going on. But I did eventually reach a point in my life to where I was like, you know, things were good. I wasn't putting a lot of premium on my happiness. I didn't even really know what that felt like.

I didn't know what I was missing. And then eventually I just got to a point to where I was in a relationship that I was really happy with. I was really happy with where my life was. Through all the shitty stuff of the pandemic, it did kind of give us a minute to stop and smell the roses. Our lives are good.

And I was like, this is time, you know, to do this for me. And so a lot of people will come up and be like, oh, thank you for doing this for us and what you've done for the community. And that's amazing. I hope, certainly hope it's not for nothing, but it was for me. It really was because I needed it.

I couldn't do it anymore. Well, that has to be like a weight on your shoulder. It was, I didn't really realize it though. It wasn't like, I was just, I didn't, it was a huge weight on my shoulders. I didn't realize until it was gone. I was like, holy shit. Like I didn't even want to talk about it. Like that when I was telling, I was like, when I come out, I just want to come out and I'm going to move on. And then instantly I just felt way different. I'm like, I do want to talk about it. It's a huge part of me. Now, like Sam Lansky, he wrote the article

that I came out with. He was one of the writers for Time Magazine and an amazing person, also a gay man himself. And I was like, you know, it's not a big deal. You know, it's just not the biggest part of me. You know, it's like, there's so many other things that define me. And very simply, he said, what if it is though?

What if it's actually like the biggest part of you? And I was like, I kind of was crying thinking about that. It's like, it was so, I was, yeah. And this is a huge part of me and I've marginalized it to myself to make myself feel better about it. But it actually is wildly huge and how I think and how I feel.

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and be sure to select dumb blonde podcast in the dropdown menu that follows. Roseanne, I'm so happy to have you on the podcast today. Oh, I'm happy to be here. Our white trash mother is in the house, baby. Ha ha. I'm so excited. You have no idea.

That's cool. I'm excited to be with you. Oh, this has been a long time coming. We've literally been talking for, I feel, it feels like years now, right? Yeah, I think it is years. Yeah. Because I haven't been to Hawaii in years and I wanted to have you on over there. Yep. And then I think we were like on opposite islands or something when that happened.

Yeah. Yeah. I never realized how big Hawaii was until you had asked me to come on the pod and I was like, okay, yeah, we could do me to come on the pod and I was like, okay Yeah, we could do it and then we looked and it was like you were on like a whole nother island I was like, holy shit. Everybody always thinks it's a you know, well, they usually think it's just Maui Yeah, and then they think it's a bunch of other floating places or Honolulu. Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's what island that? I can't even remember. Oahu? Is that Oahu?

Oahu, yeah. I'm not well-versed in Hawaii, but I... Is that what it is? If I'm wrong, sorry, guys. Yeah, it's Oahu. That's where Honolulu is. Yeah. And that's where my granddaughter was born, because we had to go over to Oahu,

because they had a good mother-child hospital there. The island I live on is the Big Island, which everybody who lives there just calls Hawaii. That's the island named Hawaii. So is the Big Island Kona? No, the Big Island is Hawaii. Is Hawaii. Yeah, but everybody forgets that, and they say Kona,

or they say the big island now. But it actually is the one that's named Hawaii. Gotcha. And it's the biggest island with the least amount of people, which I love, because you can drive drunk over there and you won't get no accident. Are you driving drunk over there? Well, I was at the time, but I had to put an end to that

because I don't see well, you know? And so there's no business to be driving drunk with just one eye, you know, at all. There's just no business for me to be doing that. And I hit a few people, but luckily I was not hurt. Right. A few speed bumps along the way, right? Well, I jerked the car when I saw they was having the McRib back there.

And McDonald's, they never give you any warning for when the McRib's coming back. And with my one eye there, drunk. You're like a pirate. You're like a freaking drunk pirate. Yeah. And I never knew. But then when I seen the McRib was back, I went, oh, you know, to get over there in line, hit a couple of folk, but you know, I did get the McRib.

And then I said, God, if you get me home with no Hawaiian police, of course they're nowhere, because boy, they're always, you know, out eating and drinking. But I said, if you get me home, this is the last time I'm gonna do that, if you'll get me home without these people being able to identify me.

And I made it. Isn't it crazy how we barter with God all the time? Isn't it? You know how many times I have gotten down on my knees and said, Lord, if you get me out of this, I promise you I'll never do this again. You know, what's funny as I'm writing a new sitcom for myself, and that's what it's about.

It's about all that. Really? Yeah, because I think that's the funniest stuff in the world, how silly we are about God. Yeah. What are your beliefs? I would love to know, because I hear you talk a lot about like spiritual awakenings, like, like spiritual awakenings and how you feel like an alien and you know, site like, you know, you've

had some psychicness that runs through your veins. And I totally relate to that. And I just wanted to know, like, what is your spirituality? I'm trying. Well, I do feel like an alien because and I've always felt like an alien because I knew I was on a different frequency than the rest of my family because I didn't even get them. I didn't know what they were up to. Same, sister.

Same, same. I tried to figure it out always, but it was like foreign. It wasn't nothing I would ever do. And it didn't make any sense to me how come they would say one thing and then do the exact opposite thing right after? And then it pisses you off because you want to call them out

because they're being hypocrites. Well, I didn't think they were being hypocrites. I was just like, why would anyone do that? Right. Especially why would somebody say, they'd say like, you know, God sees everything you do. So you want to be real careful what you do because God sees it.

Then the next minute they're stealing something. No, I'm gonna say. I'd be like, well, you must not believe what you say. because God sees it, then the next minute they're stealing something. Oh my goodness. I'd be like, well, you must not believe what you say. Right. Right. Or practice what you preach. Maybe some of you doesn't know what the other one does. So then I think, well, you know, they tell you, don't let your right hand know what your left hand's doing. So that's what they're up to, I guess.

I don't know what they's doing. So that's what they're up to, I guess. I don't know what they're doing. I always wanted to have things make sense. Right? Well, I think you and I are kind of the same person and what's black is black, what's white is white, and we don't like the gray in between. Say what you mean and mean what you say

or don't say it at all, come real or don't come at all. And I don't think that's a bad trait to have in a person. Well, I just remember I got hit by a car when I was 16 and the hood ornament went in my head and I got a brain concussion and a head concussion. And I was in a coma and all that stuff. And when I woke up, I had some kind of malfunction in the brain, the healing process. But one thing that happened is I couldn't lie

because see, I mean, not that I'm a good person. I wanted to be a liar like everybody else, but I couldn't remember the lie. You know, the next day, it was just, I had to tell the truth, because I couldn't remember my lies. Right. Yeah, you didn't want to get caught up.

Yeah. The next day, I'd make up a whole new lie. And then they'd go, well, yesterday you said, so I go, oh man, I told two lies. Then I just have to tell the truth, because it's simpler. And I want to hear the truth, so I don't have to wade through

the other person's lies and bullshit to figure out what lying bullshit they're telling me. That's wasting my whole life. Just tell me the truth. I can deal with the truth. I'd rather have the truth than I'd rather tell the truth. Saves a lot of time, then I have more time for shopping on Amazon. See? Amen, sister. We were just talking about our love for Amazon. We're like both obsessed with Amazon.

Oh my God. I told her that I have such a problem with shopping in the middle of the night, and she said she does too. And we're like absolutely obsessed with Amazon. It's just too easy. Like I'm out there last night at 3 a.m. getting, I go, I got to get a scrub brush for the porch because me and my granddaughter we shoot bugs you know we got that bug killer with the salt yeah and

it's so fun and so we shoot all these June bugs and then you know their blood squishes right out of them oh wow and it leaves a mark on the cement so I got to get a scrubber I'm thinking at 3 a.m. waking up you've got gotta get a scrubber. So I get on Amazon and I peruse through like 39 pages of different kinds of scrubbers. All time. And then end up with like five. Yeah, you get like, I always get like two or three of the same thing.

Even when I order clothes, I order two of the same thing. Why? Different sizes. Cause I never know. Oh, cause you don't know if it's gonna fit. You never know, yeah. Cause it never does fit, right? Nothing ever fits. Yes, and I don't know if it's gonna fit. You never know, yeah. Because it never does fit, right? Ever.

Nothing ever fits. Yes, and I like to have a selection, you know. Because you know which one to send back? No, I just give it to my friends. So I have like girlfriends who live around me, so if I have any extra clothes, I just pile them all together and I just give it to them. Yeah, I try to do that too, but my daughter-in-law says I should send things back instead of doing that. I feel like it's so much more of a hassle to do that too, but my daughter-in-law says I should send things back instead of doing that.

I feel like it's so much more of a hassle to do that, you know? Yeah. Why ask her to do it? Yeah. She's good at returns. She's really thrifty. That's a good word for it. She's thrifty.

I admire that because I just can't do it. I don't have the patience to send stuff back. I'm just like, I'd rather give it to somebody else. Oh, you asked me about my spirituality. See, that's an alien word to me. Spirituality. When people say that, I have to say, what do you mean exactly by that?

Because everybody says spirituality. I don't know what they mean. So I think there's a difference. I think there's a difference between being religious and being spiritual. And I feel like being religious puts so many people and being spiritual. And I feel like being religious puts so many people into a box. So I feel like when you ask somebody,

are you spiritual or what is your spirituality, that it's a little bit more fluid. So it's like, you know, there's some people, like what do you believe happens when we die? Like, where do you think we go? Do you think that there's a higher power? Do you think, do you believe in the devil? Like there's so many different things

and aspects of spirituality. That's a lot of questions. Well, I believe in God. Right. Yeah. And you know, I'm a Jew. I'm a scary Jew. I control everything in the world. And that's a hard job.

I do try to control everything in the world. And that's a hard job. I do try to control everything in the world because I'm so afraid everything's falling apart and that I'm the only person alive who knows how to fix it because that's part of my mental makeup. And I just stay in that all day talking to God. How do you think I can get, shove my way into this situation or that situation to give these people my two cents of how they can fix things? Because every time when people listen to me, things go better for them.

And I just feel like God put me here to tell people how to fix up their lives. And that's my spirituality. I just feel like God tells me what to do and I do it. So however you're gonna interpret, interpretate that, you know, every day he calls me, I'm like, what? I don't want him to bother me, but he does all the time. And he says, you know, you have to do it.

And I'm like, can't you get somebody else? Can't you get somebody they wanna hear it from? Can't you get a guy, a real good looking guy or a rapper or somebody like that they wanna hear? He goes, no, it has to be you, Roseanne. Like, you know I'll do it. But it never goes right for me when I do it. I say, how come it never goes right for me? I always do it wrong, you know?

I feel like people want to hear from you, though. I feel like people, like yes, you do take the fall and people do, you're an easy target for people to come after, but that doesn't mean that they're not listening to what you're saying. They listen to everything you say, whether they apply it to their lives or not. That's a different story, but I do think people

would rather hear messages from God from you than somebody who you just named, like a rapper or somebody else. I think you have. Well, here's what he told me. I'm like, you know I'll do it. But everyone's going to hate me like they usually do when I say anything about the truth that you want me to tell.

And he's like, well, you know, Roseanne, nobody likes a truth teller. They only like him after they've been dead about 2000 or so years, and only if they died in horrible, torturous deaths. Then they like him about 2000 years later. But if the guy came again, they do it all over to him the second time, because they don't like to hear the truth.

Well, why? Because, you know, it's too scary, it's too naked, and it makes you have to change. And most people can't change nor do they want to. They don't give a damn. They'd rather tell everybody else how to change and so would I. But the only difference is I did change. I

changed not just once but many many times and every time I changed I wanted to tell people about it because I thought it was so great to be able to change. To be able to change from when your first reaction you know when the doctor hit you there you go whatever response or reflex. when your first reaction, you know, when the doctor hits you there, you go, whatever, response or reflex. When your first reflex like mine was at a time where I was so filled with negativity to hate, to judge, to look outside myself for answers. And I changed that because I was able to crash to the bottom. And I didn't let, I stopped letting all this artificial crap to prop me up.

It just was all kicked out from under me and I crashed to the bottom. And that was just the best thing because it made me change. And it made me value different things. And the thing I valued most was my connection to God. And always did, but this time even more. And I knew that it was transformative. And I knew that it was going to change me even more than the other thousand times God saved my life and brought about change in my negative reactions. And I was able to change in that now, and I cry over this, because it is a miracle, because I'm a Scorpio. And I'm old and bitter and a Jew.

But because I'm so paranoid too with mental health issues because of the horrible world but as a child. But my first response now is love. I never understood it. I never knew. And what a different everything. I mean, you know what I'm talking about, I know you do. Because I've watched your story and you're radiating love for this man whose whole being is changing. I'm like, what is that guy on? I gotta get on that because I've gotta lose weight. I really do have to lose weight.

You look phenomenal. You're tiny. I know, but I wanna look even better. I really do because a lot of these shops on Amazon, on the luxury shops, they don't go above size eight. Really? I don't go above size eight. Really? I don't know. I think you're looking in the wrong places. Cause I've-

On those luxury shops on Amazon, on the Amazon, the new ones- I haven't made it over there yet on that side of it. I'm on the furniture side. Well, they're way too expensive. I'll tell you that Amazon's trying to rip us off with that. Cause I'll go on there. They have some ugly dresses on there for $3,000. and I'm like, are you kidding? Are you kidding? Tell

Jeff right now. I'm very going to listen to this. Jeff needs to calm it down. You gotta up your product on the luxury thing and down your prices honey. I think it's that girl he's gonna marry. You know I'm still negative when I'm in my comedy mode because you've got to slap people a little at times when you're my age, but that girl he's marrying, she must have something to do with that luxury page. And I don't like the way she dresses. She might be a nice girl. I don't know. I don't like the way she's carrying herself and the way she's dressing, so she should have nothing to do with that luxury page. That's my opinion.

How do you feel about the fact that she was just a part of the group that went to space? I think about those poor people that went to space, and then something went wrong, and they never returned. Why couldn't that happen? Well, they said that those people did come back. Didn't they come back in like March? The people that went up and got stuck. Yeah, they did. They did say they came back. But yeah,

but then they said those guys didn't really go anywhere with Katy Perry and them. Right. I was like, do you believe that they went? They never would have went in space, those girls. Yeah. They'd have to be away from their handlers. They couldn't do that for two days. I know that, you know. Do you think Bezos is handling her? Or do you think she's handling Bezos? Who, the girlfriend? She's his handler. Oh, okay. You know people say... You know Dominatrix, I can tell. You know, you know that business. You have information as I do too from the old days. You know, back when I was alive and had a sex drive and everything.

But you know she's a dominatrix. You can see that, right? She makes him put on a fairly pink apron and clean the house. I can see it. Can you? I don't really know too much about their relationship to analyze it.

I think she's beautiful and I think Jeff, you know, it's the tale of the... But their sex life, can't you just fantasize about that she makes him... Nothing about Jeff Bezos makes me want to fantasize anything, okay? I do not have a thing for Jeff Bezos, can't do it. You win that one. In the 80s, you were one of the most powerful women in Hollywood. And to have a top rated show like Roseanne

that pretty much showed a, you know, like I always call it in a world of feel good family television, cause there was like family matters, full house. And then there's Roseanne who, you know, you guys painted a picture of what real families were about. Like everything else was kind of like cookie cutter and like sugary, whereas yours was real and raw. And I think that you showed people

how to love. You good, mama? I think you showed people how to love just by being yourself. So to hear you say that you were so negative and stuff like that, was that after the Roseanne stuff? The show was my therapy. Was it? Okay. It was my soul and my God thing. It's like, I'm going to tell,

I'm going to make something good from this., like all comics and all proud writers and people like that, creatives, I mean, it does come from a, oh, I'm a troll and a slug, but I produce a great song. I mean, we're all kind of that way, you know? Our worst enemies. Well, we're in pain, and that's what makes us creative so much, especially when you're young. That's why people take drugs and, you know, everybody's doing all that.

But when you're older and you get that big change where it's like, oh man, I don't have to do that anymore. It's from another place now. I guess it's wisdom of age. Because now, I'm writing, like I said, I'm writing another short show. I think it's so funny. The people I have in it are funny. We're just busting a gut.

It's a different experience of people who love me and are creative and fun. I just wanna have fun this time. Just fun, fun, fun. And laughs off, I'm no fighting. Nothing, I'm doing it as an experiment because I, of course, made a bargain with God. I think I have one more thing in me and I

just promise joy because, you know, I'm a Jew, like I say, and I do study Torah. And Torah tells us that God loves our joy so much more than He, I'm not saying it right, but of course He has mercy on us for us when we're in sorrow, but He has great, great joy when we have joy. So I'm doing that to give joy to God rather than when He had to give me so much mercy. You don't want to create out of joy. Because I feel like, hell, I'm 72. I got to go out big. Happy, big, and, you know, buying

all kind of Amazon things. KATE EVANS What is it like aging, you know, in Hollywood and just seeing yourself from the beginning till now? Would you ever expect to be in the mind frame that you're in now back then? Well, I left Hollywood. I left Hollywood after Rosanne Show, which ended in 1997. I don't want my kids raised there. I don't want to be there when I wasn't working.

So you know, then I went to Hawaii and I was a farmer. And so... Immediately. So in the 90s is when you went to Hawaii? I can't remember. I have to look it up. I can't remember. No worries.

But anyway, yeah, when my son was going in ninth grade, I don't know what year it was. But anyways, I went over there and bought a farm and immediately started farming. And my son went to high school there and all my grandkids were there and we just were farming. I never went back to Hawaii, I mean to Hollywood, till they called me and begged me.

And you know, I came back and had another number one show after 20 years, I did it twice. And so that was pretty spectacular. You guys, we're heading into the season finale. It's coming to an end. It's coming to an end. This is the second to the last episode right now, you guys are listening to. How long are we taking off?

We take off like a month, right? We always take off one month between seasons. We take off one month between seasons. So what are you guys going to do without us? I don't know. I know. Maybe we give them another season to meet the D-Fords. Oh yeah.

Oh, you guys know once the podcast goes on a hiatus for a month, then meet the D-Fords comes out. So we are rolling that out. And that's what we're doing. We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast.

We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast. We're doing a podcast. We're. Oh, you guys know once the podcast goes on a hiatus for a month, then meet the defaults comes out. So we are rolling that out. And that's gonna be fun. Cause that's like a lot of content we've been harboring.

Literally no one has seen. Yeah. It's so good. Your birthday, what we did for your birthday is in there. Everyone gets to see the never before seen video that we made for you. Yeah. That's gonna be so good.

Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, God, that seems so long ago. Yeah, we've done so much between that span of time. It's kind of crazy, but we've got so many cool things in this new season of Make the Deports. Yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be fun. And I'm looking forward to a freaking break.

Oh, I know, right? I love filming the podcast, but I like a break too. Yeah. I mean, we go 22 weeks straight. Yeah. Before we take breaks. Dropping. Some podcasts don't even do seasons.

I don't know how they do that. I like to like, I don't know, have some sort of like. It's like a fresh start. Yeah. And like we do a different cover and it's like, I don't know. We just, we try to keep it fresh, crisp, you know? Oh yeah. Well, it's hot as fucking balls in Tennessee, dude.

Like, first of all, it's a fricking monsoon. It won't stop raining. I can't get anything done on my fucking farm. No. It's a fucking mud hill, but. Who's a farmer now? Yeah. Hailey, Hailey showed up and showed out. We's a farmer now? Yeah, Haley. Haley showed up and showed out.

We got a farmer over here. We really, we should use that content for her farmer's only profile. Yeah. I took a great photo with. In the overalls? Pony boy's penis. Oh.

Not, that sounded weird. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of like, you know, those like. Where you hold a small person. The leaning tower of pizza. His fucking wiener is always hanging. He put it away the other day. I was like, where did it go? Oh yeah, hours, it was gone.

I was like, wow, he actually put it away. I wonder why. Maybe he's calm, I don't know. No, when they're calm is when it hangs. Oh. So he might be kind of just getting used to it. Maybe he was anxious. Yeah, so I don't know if you guys saw my TikTok that I made,

but Caponeboy has gone to live with memes because I brought him, originally Mimi wanted Ponyboy anyways, but I was like, no, no, no, let me try. You know, we'll get him here, whatever. And for the first like couple of days, he was a great fit. And then after that, he just started bullying the fuck out of everybody.

It's like once he got comfortable. Yeah. He kept kicking Nova too. But he especially was bullying Nova and I just didn't like that. And he like created a divide in between Nova and Donkey. And Donkey would not even fuck with her. And they like Nova kind of attached to him a little bit and kind of excluded her her old boyfriend.

I know you guys don't watch Love Island, but I feel like you have a love island going on. Yeah. And I feel like Pony Boy was like the brand new bombshell that walked in and like split up the donkeys. I heard they feature Jay's song, Save Me on Love Island. I haven't gotten to that yet. Why? I'm getting to it.

Who needs to be saved? What art of Love Island would have? It saved me. It's right at like when HUD is about to like crash out again. Oh Jesus. They play, she's like, what'd you guys do? And they're like, we went on the, we went to the beach. She has my dream date and then it plays save me.

I got to see this. Can we pull it up somehow or is there any way to see it? Watch it like right now. What do you mean? Like, yeah, out to watch. Okay. Oh yeah. It's out to watch. Cast it onto the TV.

Yeah. I'll find it on TikTok. Find that place. That is fucking. Wow. I would never expect that. That's so funny. Okay. Oh, yeah, it's out to watch. Cast it onto the TV. Yeah. I find it on TikTok. Find that place. That is fucking Wow. I would never expect that. That's so funny. Yeah, somebody told me that today. I think my trainer Lisa told me and I was like, what? It's so funny. I used the song Save Me quite often in my life when I'm like, I don't not okay. Yeah, I'm not

okay. If I'm dying of heat. I'm like, I'm not okay. I don't. My husband blames me for his algorithm on Pandora being messed up because any time a Jelly Roll song comes on, I skip it. Yeah, I can't listen to. I love my husband to death, but I do not listen to his music. I'll listen to his old stuff. We're good. She'll be able to once she finds it.

I care about it. Do I stream there? Eda. So funny. I'm sorry, but whoever Huda is, she has completely made Love Island. Yeah, she's the only person I hear about. She crashes out almost every episode. That's the reason I watched it. What is she crashing out about? She's the one who says I'm a mommy, right? Mamacita. Mamacita, yeah. Yeah, I just got to that episode.

Oh, it's great. It's great. I mean, Love Island should thank her. Let's get her on the podcast. I would love to get her on the podcast. For sure. I don't even watch. I think they're still filming.

I don't even watch Love Island, but I'll fucking start watching it tonight. I'm only gonna watch it because of Huda. You, that, you will binge it. I seen her shaking her ass and I was like hey. She's a stripper. I even more reason to love her. I love her. Mamacita. Mamacita. And then I heard people are like trying to shame her because she had like work done on her face or something. I think her lips look great everyone's like her lips and lashes I'm like I love them. I think she looks beautiful. Ready? Yep

No, he didn't really say anything about you on the date. He was just saying that it was a really stressful situation What was the date? It was just like sitting down like on the beach my dream date Cute and he knows that Cute. And he knows that. Stop. I can't. I can't.

That is hilarious. And he knows that. Oh my God. Sitting down on the beach. You know what? Jay and I should fucking do that sound together. That would be so funny. Oh my God, you should.

Please. Send me that. Send me that so I have it. You should. That would be so funny. That would be hilarious. Yeah. So I guess I'm gonna dive into Love Island tonight.

I was browsing through Tik TOK the other day and my F Y B's my F Y P has been on fire lately. It's been like crazy. This girl is on Tik TOK talking about how I can't even believe I'm about to say this. She I can't even believe I'm about to say this. She had like a blood disorder in high school. So she had to get a rib removed. And after the surgery, she asked the surgeon like, hey, can I keep my rib? And the surgeon's like, yeah, sure.

So he gives it to her in like a bottle of formaldehyde. Well, she got it home and after like a few weeks, she was looking at it and she said that there was like meat still on it and like drove her crazy. And she was like, I don't understand why there's meat on it. Right. So she boils it boils all the meat off the bone and then proceeds to take a nibble of her own flesh. She tells the story on Tik TOK. Not where I tells the story on TikTok.

Not where I thought the story was going. Do you guys want to hear her tell the story? Yeah, low key. It's crazy. Was it good? When I was in high school, I had to get my rare removed for this rare like blood syndrome thing.

And so when I got it removed, I asked for it back after the surgery. And for some reason, they just agreed to give it back to me. And they gave it back in this little vial filled with liquid and there was still like meat on it like muscle and so when I got home I had to get all the muscle off so it would stay like preserved and wouldn't like rot and so I boiled it in this pot and then at the end I had a rib with cooked meat on it and I tried some of it I ate some of it so I have eaten some of my own human it and I tried some of it. I ate some of it. So I have eaten

some of my own human flesh and I think that's pretty cool. And I don't think it's that weird, honestly. Fuck, excuse me. Yeah. I think it's pretty exciting. It didn't taste good, by the way. It tasted very bad, probably because it was soaking in some like for a while. I don't know. Yeah. So that's how my FYP has been for the past couple of fucking weeks. And I'm just supposed to ingest formaldehyde.

I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah, no. Okay. But what's the difference in that and like, on the side? Okay. You haven't heard that? The fuck? Oh, I heard it.

Over a billion served? We literally, yes. And you? You know when you chew on the sides of your fingernails? That's different. How is that different? You're eating a piece of yourself, that's cannibalism. You're telling me right now,

if you take the little skin on the side of your nails. Isn't that like dead skin though? So technically. No, that's cannibalism. That's not like flesh and meat though. I eat the fucking skin on the side of my fingernails. Then you're cannibal. What about chewing on your lip?

Cannibal. I've chewed on my lip all the time, but I'm not eating shit that's inside of me. I'm not boiling my own flesh. There's something different about that. Rib. Just fucking moist meat, fucking hang off the bone. Don't ever say that again.

Moist meat hanging off the bone. Take that back. No, I'm moist. Okay? You just looked into my soul. Yeah, eating flesh off of a bone is completely different than eating the sides of your fucking fingernail. Yeah, you can't convince me otherwise.

There's no fucking argument. Hell no, we won't go. I'd rather eat my fucking toenails than eat something that came off the inside of me. Whoa, hey, Sasha did. Yeah, she did. And it's the strong one. It was the big strong one.

That one didn't even, it was like a dagger. I don't know how she did it. She put some jelly on it. Jam on it. Yeah. Grandma's jam. I had the Amish jam, right? Yeah, it was. Grandma's jam.

I had to confess something. I clipped my toenail the other day and the whole thing came off. Was that necessary? I felt it was sharing towel, right? Was that necessary? It was sharing towel, right? I mean, what are we, we're sharing somebody else's story, not our own. God, that is so, I can't, I realized that I have a different

tism than Bailey does. Like we all have our own tisms, like certain things gross us out. Bailey walks outside in socks and they get soppy. Okay, thank you. I'm the same way. It drives me crazy. And like she'll walk around and fucking like

in the farm with wet socks. And I'm like. I'm gonna throw up. Okay, I'm glad I'm not crazy. Cause every time she does it, I'm like, I'm going to throw up. Okay. I'm glad I'm not crazy. Cause every time she does it, I'm like, Bailey, I hate what psychopath likes wet socks and she wears jeans to farm in. I'm like, how do you wear tight ass jeans to farm? And she's like, how do you wear leggings? I'm like, I'm wearing cotton breathable fucking shit. You know, we were trying to catch the horse. Mind you guys, it took us six hours to catch this horse

because it had just monsooned through this steep hill that he was on. I would love to see it. It's her with a rope and she just, she goes, I'm just pissed now. She's walking with this lasso. She's like, I'm going to just lasso him. Like I'm not even fucking, that fucking horse had some.

I'd love to see this. Yes. That horse had some gallop. All right. Yeah. And he was getting mad. He's like, What was Bailey wearing doing this?

Huh? What was Bailey wearing to do this? Tight ass jeans. No, no, no. The catching it, she was in- Oh, hey dudes. Hey dudes, no socks. And a bikini or something.

And a bathing suit. Yeah. I said, what are you doing? I said, go shower. Hey dudes on the farm. Bro, it was so gross. I don't know how she does it. I'm like, we have a different tism.

There's no way in hell I could do that. Absolutely not. We established that we have different tisms. Hers is like texture and like, it's like textures of like foods and stuff like that. More mine is like textures of like foods and stuff like that. Where mine is like textures of clothes. Fabric, yes. She wants more food than fabrics.

Oh, like the wood spoon she tried to touch me with the other day, I wanted to beat her with it. You had it in your house. I know, but it wasn't like that when I bought it. I test the spoons before I buy them, but then they like dry out after you wash them a couple of times and then they get this like gritty

Texture to it and it makes my teeth hurt. I Used to when I was younger my you know, like car door handles I said I had like this is how I know I was fucking had tism since I was a kid It used to gross me out so bad, but I made myself do it and it's making me get fucking goosebumps right now But I would slide my nail in it. Oh, excuse me, what? In that little crease. Oh, it was crazy. It was crazy.

Yeah, I don't know why I did it, but it was like. Anything nail really. Blah. I grabbed something today in a bag and this whole nail came back this way. Nope. Can't do it. No, can't do it, Captain.

Came back this way. Today we have on the couch Wiz Khalifa. Hey, what's up? How you doing? I'm chilling. Dude, I'm so happy you're here. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me. You are just like the smoothest cat, always and forever.

Every time I see you, you have a smile on your face. You're just a chill vibe. You remind me so much of my dad, because I used to always say my dad was like the coolest cat. And then I found out that you were born September 8th. My dad was September 4th. Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense. Yeah, so you guys have just that like super chill,

super cool vibe. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, of course. If I could compare you to anybody, I'm sure you get this a lot. I swear you and Snoop Dogg are like the same human, just different font. Exactly.

Literally, was he an inspiration for you growing up? Huge inspiration for me growing up, especially in my teen years, like just being like a taller and skinny dude, it was like, you know, I've had to find my swag and then just looking at Snoop, that was like the tallest, coolest, skinniest dude ever. So it was like, you know what I mean?

I definitely modeled myself, just my whole, you know, approach after, you know, snoops rules. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I've missed pimp Snoop. Can we bring him back? There's a lot of people who don't even know he was a pimp. Oh, I do. I listen. I grew up in that lifestyle in Vegas. So I loved pimp Snoop. I'm like, bring him back. Remember when he used to hang out with Bishop Don Juan all the time? And like that whole era that he went through. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He raised us. He raised us right.

He did raise us right. Um, if so, you know how him and Martha Stewart have that TV show? If they were to replace Snoop with you, who would you bring on as your Martha? Who would be my Martha? Yeah. I think like, uh, Chelsea Handler. Oh Martha? Yeah. I think like Chelsea Handler. Oh yeah. Yeah, I like her. She's fucking hilarious, dude. Yeah, she's funny as hell, yeah.

We love Chelsea and this house. Yeah, yeah. She actually gave, is one of the first people who gave us like our first break, as far as like reality TV. Yeah. She believed in our family and like shot. I know, she's a fucking, she's so dope.

See, I didn't even know that. She just said G to me as well. She is. Yeah, so that would be like my Martha for sure. Yeah, dude, I think we need to, we need to do that. We could. We need to get Wiz and Chelsea Handler in a fucking TV show together.

That would be so fire. That would be awesome. I know that you're stoned all the time and you're not smoking today on my podcast. Do you feel out of your element a little bit? No, I'm good. I got high before I came in. All right, good.

It's all good. I'm not tripping. What are some of your favorite stoner foods? Favorite stoner foods, I would have to go with Funyuns as far as chips. Yeah. I like to eat a lot of fruit. Yeah.

I like to eat like pineapple and grapes and straw. I just like get a big ass bowl of fruit. Just mix it all together. I love it. It reminds me of that TikTok. I like a lot of fresh fruit. Yeah. From the step brothers.

Is that from step brothers? I like a lot of fresh fruit. Cereal anytime of the day. That's what your favorite cereal. Apple Jacks. Really? That's different. I knew I normally hear like Lucky Charms or Captain Crunch.

Okay. For real. I usually hear a cinnamon toast crunch. I do love like Lucky Charms or Captain Crunch. Oh, okay. For real, I usually hear Cinnamon Toast Crunch. I do love a good Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Honeygrams. Yeah, Honeygrams is good. Don't fuck around. Honey Nut Cheerios. Delish. Yeah, don't sleep on them either.

Dude, I love me some fucking Cheerios, dude. Yeah, but Apple Jacks are good because they're like flavored and they're sweet and the consistency, they don't get all soggy very fast. I like Apple Jacks. Have you ever thought about doing like reality TV? I think you are literally made for it. I did, thank you so much.

I used to watch so much reality TV when I was a kid, like real world and like all of that stuff. I miss the OG real world. Yo, me too. And I used to like, that was my thing. I wanted to be like a personality. Yeah. And yeah, so as I got older,

I started to make my own little series on YouTube. They're called Day to Days, but they're like, you know, they're not TV ready because there's a lot of weed on there. Right. But yeah, if I ever got the opportunity to do something like that, like a show like my family or my life

or just my personality, I would love that. I think that would be hella fun. I think you have enough star power now to make that happen. Yeah, I'm a super fun dude too. Like I try anything. It don't matter what it is. I think people would just want to see you

like raise your kids. Like I would probably like the dynamic between you and your son. I love kids. Even if I got to do like stuff with other people's kids as well too. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I want to do like with other people's kids as well, too, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I want to do a weird summer camp type thing. Aw, that would be so sweet. Yeah, where we play games, and we boxing, and we working out, and we having fun, and we being creative. Yeah, I'll be tight. I love that. If anybody's listening that can make that happen, you guys need to reach out to his team and make that happen. Yeah, where's the summer camp?

Have you ever seen that TV show, Drunk History? I have. Okay, so say Netflix came to you and they gave you a show called High History. What would your first historical moment be that you would relive, that you'd get stoned and just relive? I would want to get stoned and relive. Hmm. That's all good. I mean, history is like pretty dark.

Yeah, it is. What do you think about it? It is, actually. So I don't want to go through that. He's like, no dark shit. Yeah, no dark shit. I probably want to get stoned and go to like a Muhammad Ali fight. That'd be dope. Yeah, no dark shit. I probably want to get stoned and go to like a Muhammad Ali fight.

That'd be dope. That would be iconic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that would be so cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What a moment in time. Uh-huh, for sure. I wish boxing was like it was back in the day.

For sure. Like Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard. I was a huge, my dad was a huge boxing fan growing up. So like I got to watch all that growing up. And I just feel like boxing is cool now, but it's not like it was back in the day. Absolutely. Yeah, the sport of it has changed

and just like how people enjoy it has changed. But back in the day, yeah, it was awesome. It was exciting. You have like really, really good fighters and multiple really good fighters too. So many. Yeah, a lot of them. Mike Tyson used to hang out in the strip club

that I worked out all the time. And he was the coolest dude. He used to give me money because I never bothered him. Yeah. He'd be like, I'd walk by and he would just hand me like at like a thousand dollars and just like, thank you for leaving me alone. Yeah, he was respected though. Yeah, no, he would just hand me like, at like a thousand dollars and just be like, thank you for leaving me alone.

Yeah, he just respected that. Yeah, no, he was just so, cause everybody was always on him and always wanted his attention. And he noticed that I never like just, you know, he was already getting bombarded, but he was just the sweetest dude. That's nice.

That's why it's crazy that he would- I love Mike now too. He's so cool. Like- He's amazing. He's just super chill. He'd be smoking weed and he just in his own world. He's a good dude, man.

Anybody that can raise pigeons the way he does and love them. Right. Because honestly, pigeons are like a forgotten bird. Because they used to do so much. They used to fucking send messages during the war. And they were very useful. And now they're known as like, dirty birds. Dirty birds.

And there's Mike over there just raising pigeons. Loving on that dirty bird. Loving the shit out of a dirty bird. So I also read that you started writing lyrics and recording music at age nine or 10. Like, were you just musical from the gate? Like, have you always had that sense of like, just rhythm and soul? I think yeah, also, actually, like, my parents played a lot of music in the house, just like getting ready or cleaning up or driving. So it was always around me. And it was something that

made me feel good. But I got some of my best memories from music or where I was at or what I was doing. So that kind of translated into my love for music. And then my cousins, they were rapping and doing shit just because they were older than me. So that's when I figured out that I could actually make it. And I was like, oh, okay, this isn't that difficult. It's like when you get an instrument and you start playing,

it was the same thing for me. I was just kind of fucking around, like writing r isn't that difficult. It's like when you get an instrument and you start playing, it was the same thing for me. I was just kind of fucking around, like writing raps here and there. And then people just started telling me how good I was. So I just practiced and kept going and going and going. And my mind is like, I got a really big imagination. So I would see stuff that people didn't necessarily see as like doable. I would see it as like,'t necessarily see as like doable.

I would see it as like, okay, we can make an album. We could, you know, make merch. We could put on a show. We could, you know what I mean? So I just started like developing into this over time, but it was all based off of enjoying music and loving how it made me feel. Like I remember watching music videos and just being blown away

or like saving up all my money to go buy, you know, bone thugs and harmony tape or something like, you know what I mean? It's so it was so valuable to me. It wasn't like just music. So like that's that's what started me creating and doing what I'm doing. Music was the soundtrack to your life. Yeah. I feel like our parents, actually,

that was one of the really cool things that they did for us, is I grew up in a very musical household, too. And I had so many influences. What were some of your influences growing up that inspired you to rap, but also just even that weren't in the rap genre? Yeah. My dad listened to everything.

He listened to Journey. He listened to Bob Marley, he would listen to Whitney Houston. Oh, love Whitney, yep. My dad, I had like a huge record collection, so we would just sit down and listen to funk records, everything, and my mom was more like the hip hop, like she was, she's current. Mom's the G.

Oh yeah, my mom's a G. She listening to too short. Oh, I love it. I love it. Okay, so mom's with the shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, cool. My mom smoked weed and everything. I love mom.

That's who I got smoking weed from for sure. Can you take me on the journey of you doing MMA and fitness? Yeah. When, how did you get into this? Cause I think that's amazing. Thank you. It's very taxing on the body to be doing stuff like that. So yeah, yeah. I train pretty hard too. I got into it. My big homies, they were doing jujitsu at the time. And they're like, Hey,

you need to come to the gym and we're gonna rough you up and all this stuff. So as soon as I got to the gym, they instantly were like, you need to lift weights. Like you're way too small. You got to eat and you got to lift weights. You could actually do something if you, you know what I mean, took it seriously. So I got on like a regimen where I was, you know,

doing certain amount of calories and making sure I started sleeping. And then I just liked how my body felt and like what it did to me mentally as well. And the martial arts part of it just kind of turned into its own little thing because I was naturally a little bit gifted at it, but just being the type of person where

I wanna do something over and over and over and try to perfect it, that's the perfect sport for that. Because you just get better every day. So each and every day you learn a new techniques or just fine tuning or practicing or drilling or there's always something to do. So it's like that forever project for me. That's how I feel like martial arts is. It's just something that I could practice for the rest of my life. And it is good for my body and it's good for me mentally.

It's a skill that I could use if I needed to. Yeah, hopefully not though. No, I don't see, but being a dad though, you gotta be ready for that shit too. Cause it's like, look, I'm not calling security. I'm gonna beat your dad up. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, right? Would you ever fight in the ring professionally?

If they offered it to you? Cause I think I had read also that you said you wanted to be a wrestler for a day. I did. Would you still do that? I would more do some wrestling shit than fighting cause wrestling is like entertainment, it's acting. Actually getting in the ring and doing,

that's not what I train for, but I'm trained good enough to do some shit. I'm always ready. And anybody who's ever seen me do what I do, they know what level I perform on. So the whole getting in the ring, it's more for entertainment. Like it makes everybody money.

And it's like, I'm not really into all of it. What if it came to you with like a bag though? What's the bag though? I mean, name your price. It would have to be like 50 million. And then you would get in the ring. Yeah, it would be like Floyd Mayweather prices. I mean, you know, they might do it.

I need 50 Ms for my first fight, guaranteed. Cause it's gonna like, it's gonna pull a big crowd. Yeah. And I'm gonna knock somebody fight, guaranteed. Cause it's gonna pull a big crowd and I'm gonna knock somebody out, cold. What's your move? What is your move? Like if you had a move in the ring, what would it be? Well, if I did boxing, it would probably be like an overhand right.

Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty much night-night. Or my lead left hook. Ooh, yeah, yeah. That's pretty much night-night. Or my lead left hook. Ooh, south-fall. Yeah, no, well the lead left is orthodox, but it's just coming from the left. So I'm gonna either hit you in the face or a nice little lead left body shot.

Gotcha. But if we're doing Muay Thai, there's nobody seeing me in Muay Thai. Like boxing is different because you only got hands. Right. But if I get to use my feet and my elbows and my knees, yeah, there's nobody seeing me in that shit. You're knocking somebody out. Yeah. And I'm tall as hell too. So you're not even getting close to me. Yeah. Just one

round kick. The hardest kick is probably like the spinning back kick. So like, if we really- You'd knock somebody's head off. Yeah, or like break some ribs or like puncture some lungs or something like that. Yeah, nice spinning back kick. I like it, now we're talking. We gotta make this happen too. Yeah, I like elbows too because it's like-

Let me just manage you, I'm just kidding. Yeah, because when you're boxing, you got like the gloves are protecting them. But if we do MMA and I elbow you in your forehead and I split your forehead open and you're bleeding, it's going to be hard for you to fight me for the rest of the fight. Or break a nose.

Or if I knee you and break your rib in the first round, you're not really going to want to keep. Wiz, I feel like you're ready for this. I feel like you're ready. I don't want to hurt anybody. I don't like hurting people. I feel like you would ready for this. I feel like you're ready. I don't want to hurt anybody. I don't like hurting people. I feel like you would rock the shit out of somebody though. But they got to pay me 50 Ms

if you want to see some blood. All right, well, whoever's listening, let's make that fucking happen. Cause I'm tuning in. I want to see somebody get their ass wet. What is something embarrassing you do alone that no one knows about until now? Something embarrassing that I do alone that no one knows about until now? Something embarrassing that I do alone

that no one knows about. I cry a lot. Really? Yeah. You're emotional. Yeah, I am emotional. That's sweet though. Yeah.

Every movie. I don't think that's embarrassing. It is to me, cause I'll be why, I was watching like, what's that, Encanto? What's that Disney movie? I'm not sure. It's the one with the Spanish girl and her family. What's that, Encanto, what's that Disney movie? I'm not sure. Is the one with the Spanish girl and her family.

What's that movie called? Man, I was crying to that shit the other day. You cried too? I'm crying just thinking about it. It was so sweet. I'm not watching it now. It was the sweetest freaking movie ever. It's so sweet. It's sweet, it's not sad?

No, it's just sweet. It's like the sweetest thing. I mean, of course it's like sad, it hits you, but it's like, it's so sweet. It's sweet, it's not sad. No, it's just sweet. It's like the sweetest thing. I mean, of course it's like sad, it hits you, but it's like, it's so sweet. It was like, I was like, oh man, here we go. I don't think that's a weakness though. I think that a man that can, you know, show emotion, that's awesome.

That just means that you're in tune with it. Yeah, for sure. I think I'm very in tune with it. He said I'm very in tune with it. So let's say some aliens came down to earth and you're the spokesman for earth. What's the first thing that you would show aliens and prove to them like that?

We're actually like cool people down here. I would definitely smoke weed with them. Yeah. You don't think they're not already smoking weed? I think they're like past smoking weed. We might, this might be like really prehistoric to them. They're like, we've got to, we got to bring them back to the origin. Right.

So I would, cause they're aliens. Like everything is fast and then it's just like, let's slow it down a little bit. I would smoke some weed with them and I will probably play them like a parliament funkadelic record. Oh, there we go. Yeah, I would put on some Earth music. Yeah. Yeah.

Would you only smoke weed with them or would you drop acid with them? I don't really do too much acid. I can't either. I could never. Okay, yeah, yeah. So I would rather just smoke the weed. Okay. Yeah. Smoke weed, listen to records, watch a movie,

go for a ride, get burgers. Aw, any particular burger? Where are the aliens landing? Are they landing here? Not here, Nashville sucks. Let's take them to LA. To LA? At least there's probably more to do out there.

So we go to Astro Burger or something like that in Hollywood. Because we get to cruise through Hollywood in the lowrider, smoke weed, and go get burgers. Have you ever dropped acid before? Have you ever done psychedelics? Yeah, I did acid. You don't like them?

I think I did too much. Yeah. I did acid with Diplo. Oh, I would never do acid with Diplo. It sounds like a good idea, right? I know. No, doesn't sound good to me. I'm like, it's Diplo.

Like, this is gonna be awesome. I feel like he's on a permanent acid trip. He is. He's walking acid. Yeah, so how did that go? It was interesting. It was intense, that's what it was. It was super, that's what it was.

It was super duper intense. And it wasn't like a bad trip or anything, but I could definitely feel it. And I would like go places and be like, hold on, I need a little second to myself. And then I would just be randomly somewhere else. It was like a movie. It was like, I would blink and then I would wake be randomly somewhere else. It was like a movie. It was like I would blink and then I would wake up in another room.

And I would blink and I would wake up in another room. I would have anxiety. It was crazy. And I thought I was Aladdin on a magic carpet for a minute. I thought I was Michael Jackson when I did Mushrooms. Okay, cool. Yeah, I get it. I feel that.

Yeah, I definitely for sure thought I was like sailing over the city on a magic carpet. So that was your first and the city on a magic carpet. Yeah. So that was your first and only time doing it? Only time. Okay. He's like, yeah, I never. I turned into a Latin.

I'm cool. All right. Final question. Build your dream strip club. Name, theme, signature drink and house rules. Name Nippippleopolis. The other one was hold on. I'm still hung up on nippleopolis and how fast you thought of that. You've thought of this before with the late.

Um, hold on. Sorry. It was build your dream strip club, name, what's the theme, what's your signature drink and what's the house rules. Okay, the theme is 80s baddies. Yes, video vixen. Yeah, those are my favorite chicks. Oh, me too.

They're so good. Love them. Like nice bodies, like perfect boobs, cute little butt. Yep. Little bush, you know. Are you into bush? I like the little eighties bush. We like the bush.

Well, we might have a bush floor. Yeah, it'd be a floor for bush. Not the bush floor, it's hairy upstairs. It's hairy, it's hairy. And then downstairs, Nipippleopolis is regular. The signature drink will be the Napoleon Dynamite. I'm crying. What's the last one?

I'm sorry, I'm still just hung up on what you're saying here. I can't get over the bush floor. Signature drink and what are the house rules? House rules. We gotta respect the ladies. That's the number one rule. Yes. Tip well and-

Leave room for the Holy Spirit. Leave room for the Holy Spirit. I like that. All right, cool. I like it. I love that. Welcome to Nippleopolis. Wiz, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I'm happy to be here. Thank you. I appreciate you so much. Come back anytime. I will. All right. Thank you guys for tuning in to another

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