Dumb Blonde - Sofia Franklyn: Souls and Holes

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

The only F Sofia Franklyn gives is the one in her name, and this week, she's here to burn it all down with Bunnie. Sofia talks about daddy issues and drama in every form possible, and how she went from a high school degenerate to one of the top podcasters in the world. She opens up about her mental health struggles, being the hottest comeback kid in the game with her show Sofia with an F, and she gives some expert dating advice to a few horny listeners.  Bunnie: Website  Sofia: Website  Sofia with An F Podcast Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Mrs. Sophia Franklin. How are you doing, baby? Hi. Thank you so much for having me. This place is amazing and I'm so excited to be here. Dude, you know, I think everybody knows who you are just because of the whole debacle that happened and I feel like everybody focuses on that. And with this podcast today, I kind of want to get to know you. You know, like I want to know like where you grew up. I want to know like how bad you were as a child. I want to talk about like traumatic shit you've been through. So is that okay with you? 1000% actually, that's like someone asking me to talk about my traumatic childhood is way better than like someone asking about the traumatic shit that happened with my old show. So it's amazing. Yeah, we'll get into that.

And for those of you who don't know who Sophia is, she used to be one half of Call Her Daddy. Why don't you tell people a little bit about it, and then we'll get into more of it later. So I was part of the podcast Call Her Daddy. I did it for like two-ish years, and then I had a very, very public kind of drama happen it was breakup it was almost like a breakup right with my co-host and with um the business and the company that we

were doing the podcast under and again very public New York Times reported on it it was it was a big deal and then I ventured off and I started Sophia with an F which is my podcast now everyone go listen but it's a great podcast it's one of the podcasts I listen to really oh my god that means the world to me um but that's like basically it in a nutshell I mean so where did you grow up where where was um baby Sophia born Utah okay so you are from Utah so is that considered west coast because I'm a west coast girl. I'm from Vegas. So is that is Utah considered west coast? It's not considered west coast no. It's a very interesting place to grow up. I would go to Vegas all the time by the

way. Yeah. Every that was like where i would go with my fake id growing up yeah it's crazy because i was the opposite for church trips i always went to fucking utah so we were living parallel lives right were you raised lds no but i was raised strict southern pentecostal which is just like fucking being mormons okay except we don't like baptize the dead and shit or whatever it is i don't know no offense to the mormons out there't like baptize the dead and shit or whatever it is. Right. No offense to the Mormons out there that do baptize the dead, but. No, I talk about. So it's kind of funny. I went to private Catholic school, but my mom was Mormon LDS.

She's not anymore. And then. How does that work out? You're Mormon, but end up in Catholic school. Right. Was it just like they were kind of like searching for something to believe in or it was the only school that they could get you in so I think my mom wanted me to get a better education and I'm using quotation marks because she thought okay private school means better education no it doesn't I went to private

school myself too okay I was so bad I was horrible I was the worst I was too. Okay. I was so bad. I was horrible. I was the worst. I was a terrible human. Yeah, I was too. And I think the kids in private school tended to be way crazier and way worse than the kids in public school. Oh yeah, absolutely. You know?

I agree. So I went to, yeah, private Catholic school. So I think it was just for the better education. And then I think the Mormon culture and just like you said, I'm not shitting on LDS or the faith at all because it's there's some incredible parts to it. Absolutely. But there's like a certain culture in Utah where it's very like clicky and very judgmental. And my mom's from Argentina. So she was a Mormon in Argentina. And she said the culture moving to the United States within that religion was just completely different. Wow. Yeah. I feel like within any sort and we don't really talk about

religion on my podcast that much, but I, you know, I grew up in a very religious childhood also. And I feel like with any sort of religious upbringing, there's always so much judgment. Like, and that's why I always tell everybody I'm spiritual. I'm not religious because I feel like when you tell people you're religious, they automatically think you're a Bible thumper. They automatically are like, oh my gosh, she's going to shove her beliefs down my throat. But when you say you're spiritual, people are like, oh, it's kind of like riding the wave. It's right. You know, it's it sucks that that's how religion is, though, you know, and I feel like that makes us grow up with so much shame, feeling like we're being judged constantly by

adults. So, I mean, I still to this day, I mean, you and I talk about sex openly to this day I still will have those moments where I'm like oh am I like taking it too far like talking about a blow job is that was that a little too much religious trauma right I do talk about that a lot on the podcast a lot of people don't realize there is trauma from religion like you grow up literally I have fucking panic attacks and anxiety and fucking mental health issues because I lived in a constant state of fight or flight because when I was growing up, I was told you're going to go to hell if you do this. If you fucking sit the wrong way, if you fucking wear a skirt, you know, that's too short, you're going to go to hell. And they don't understand that as a child that fucking

really ingrains fear in you. Right. And you're subconscious, right? When you just mentioned the skirt, I'm thinking about when you just mentioned the skirt i'm thinking about when i went to the the private catholic school high school they would go around measuring your skirt your kneecap right yep to make sure it wasn't too short and it seems kind of harmless and it just seems like you know a rule at the school but if you really think about it like that shit follows you right and you're like conscious in a weird way oh yeah even now if my shorts are too short i'll tie a flannel around my waist because it's like you just raised and i have your ass cheeks fucking hanging out you know so it's like it really does stick with you so growing up in such a religious um background

and scenario of course i'm sure that probably caused you to rebel a little bit I know I remember I think your mugshot went fucking viral right this is like what 2018 2019 that your mugshot went viral uh-huh let's talk about little hood rat Sophia I like me witch mugshot do you really oh that is hilarious yeah I was uh pretty out of control I don't know when did that start I want to say it probably started high school okay but I mean I was I was always pretty outspoken and like the class clown in middle school and I was a little bit raunchier and I really could not tell you why I had no idea I just was like that yeah and then high school 15 I think is when I had my first drink like my first taste

of alcohol what was the first thing you ever drank oh oh my god it was my mom's alcohol and it was like it wasn't even tea it wasn't even like straight vodka or anything it was like orange liqueur oh like that 15 bullshit you add to a drink right but i made sure to drink enough of it to get lit mine was cisco and old e what the hell is that girl that's a whole nother podcast so back in the day fucking if you were raised in the ghetto you fucking drank fucking cisco which is like a liqueur but it's like strawberry flavored okay and then old english which is like 40s of old english okay okay old english i know cisco i'm thinking about like the fucking oil that you fry shit in no no no that's crisco

i'm like oh welcome to dumb blonde Sophia I love that You can get drunk off that shit That's not even dumb blonde That's like kind of a smart move Yeah I know I love that No so Cisco is pretty much like Cough syrup too

It's just it's fucking disgusting I don't even know how people drink that shit It's like Mad Dog 2020 Do you know what Mad Dog 2020 is? No Alright nevermind Moving on she's like no bitch you're way older than i am um so high school yeah i started to get in a lot of trouble but it was weird because i swear to god all the kids in high school were getting in trouble but i you always got caught yeah was

that your situation because that that was mine yeah everybody would fuck up and I was the one who got the blame right I I yeah actually I would get caught for fucking everything I I was very reckless but I mean I started selling drugs when I was 17 how did you get into selling Well, I think it started with taking them. Yeah. When did you try your first drug? Ooh, that's it. So I started with smoking weed.

It's always the gateway. Right? It's like the fucking commercial. It's the gateway drug. They weren't lying. It really is. Remember D.A.R.E.? D.A.R.E. to keep your kids off drugs.

Were you around for that? No, it was probably. No, I was. Oh, were you? Okay, good. 100%. I was dating. I think I was a freshman I was dating a senior of course oh yeah me too right yeah always now I like them young it's weird me too I love them young oh my god we did a little like flip-flop I'm the exact same give me a cabana boy any day I'm ready 25 and below no I'm just kidding not below don't come for me

no mine's 27 right now and it's like yeah baby i'm into it um but he would smoke a bunch of weed so i started smoking weed and then i don't know how that progressed to like trying coke and oxys and all of that shit but I think what happened is I started to have friends ask me for it and so I would be facilitating right I would be like okay I can get it for you giving it to them and then I had a light bulb moment where I was like wait why am I putting in all of this time and effort and not making money off of this? Because you're a hustler, right? So it's either in you or it's not. Exactly. And as a middleman, I was like, I'm gonna, you know, make a little bit of money off this. So I would start up charging, or I would like take a little scoop to myself, you know, like that type of shit. Yeah. And that's

kind of how it started. I love that.'t sell drugs I just did them all did you ever did you ever become an addict in the process was it like an issue that you really had to like battle shockingly no good I yeah I mean there was like a moment where I was smoking oxycontin for I don't know like a year in high school yeah and I just quickly was like I'm over that coke over that which I'm very very lucky because for a lot of people that's not how it works yeah um alcohol is a different story I like walked in here with a white claw but as far as I mean alcohol is a drug but as far as like right drugs like that yeah no I I'm pretty good yay so was that convincing yeah I'm pretty good. Yay. So was that convincing? Yeah. I'm pretty good right now, I think.

She just swigs the white cloth. So where did you get your first mugshot? Because you said you have a few. So where did the arrests come in? So luckily, I never got caught selling drugs ever. Good. Thank God. Utah, again, there's very very strict not that many people are getting fucked up drunk because there's so many LDS people um I was arrested I think three times

between the ages of 18 and I'm gonna say 17 and 21 probably all for underage drinking so basically all of them were just me going out getting blackout drunk and having a fake id and then there you go there's my mug shot that's gotta be some fucking Utah shit because growing up in Vegas fucking underage drinking is like an everyday thing right i don't think i've ever met anybody who's been arrested for underage drinking besides you now that is what everyone tells me and i'm like i have three arrests for that you poor baby right to the point that i was you know there's a whole drunk tank which i went to and then there's actually being arrested and like put in an orange jumpsuit in jail that happened to me like my third time getting arrested for underage drinking that's crazy it's almost

like they were just trying to prove a point with you right yeah I mean I was in there and there were girls telling me like oh yeah like I'm in here because I like domestic abuse and like really really intense shit and I'm like I am 19 and I drink alcohol. Can I please get out of here? Oh, you poor baby. So after your arrest and did you graduate high school? Yes. Okay, good.

So I didn't. I did not. I was such a party animal. I just got my good enough diploma. So getting out of high school, what does Sophia do next? Yeah, so I wasn't done being a degenerate after high school. We love degenerates. I went to a college in San Francisco.

I didn't get kicked out, but my mom basically was like, get the fuck home. I'm not going to help you go to college if you're out here doing this shit. I got in trouble for like just partying, drinking shit in California. You're just having fun. Right. I mean, you're just being a kid. Right? That's what you're out here doing this shit i got in trouble for like just partying drinking shit in california right i mean you're just being a kid that's what you're supposed to do i'm gonna tell the utah police that yeah alone um and then i came back to utah i actually graduated from the university of utah in economics yay started working in finance so somewhere around there I got my shit together kind of yeah I mean do we even have our shit together I mean I think we're all fucking still searching yeah okay good trying to figure it out right I'm like I don't have my shit together but I got it a little bit more together and then I started working in finance then moved

to New York from Utah which which was a huge move, then started the Call Her Daddy podcast. Then all that shit happened. And now Sophia The Net. Right. Let's rewind a little bit because you did say that you don't mind talking about your childhood traumas. How is your relationship with your parents? Like, is dad around or is it just mom or how's that? Dad, not around around um my mom i was raised by a single mom she is my best friend like we are so so close go mom go right my biological dad not in the picture he i've met him twice my mom kind of gave me that option to meet him when I was in high school actually and I met him and then we didn't really speak and then a few years later I met him again and then we didn't really speak so I mean daddy issues abandonment issues definitely there

how ironic that you would have a podcast called call her daddy too right right I always thought we all have daddy we have daddy and mommy issues so well and that's the thing is people assume daddy issues means you didn't have a dad right no that's not the case I mean I would say 90% of people have some type of daddy or mommy issue oh yeah yeah right you can have both easily yeah um so that's my biological dad and then who i refer to as my dad i mean technically he's my stepdad but he came into the picture when i was six and amazing guy great guy there was definitely some substance abuse shit happening so on his part or both parents on his part okay gotcha yeah kind of in and out of rehab um and i i mean i don't really know your story but there's more that comes with that obviously

yeah absolutely but yeah that was my childhood but when i say that at the same time my mom was so strong yeah and such a good single parent that I don't necessarily look back and think oh my god I'm so fucked up or I was doing all of this shit because of how I was raised you know what I mean no that's good because there's a lot of kids that'll be like oh my god my stepdad was you know an addict and it's affected me so much and I think that's really cool that you were able to take that situation and still see the silver lining you know and see instead of taking the negative and you looked at your mom and you were like, God, what a pillar of strength, you know, which a lot of kids won't do that. I was, I fucking had to have a talk with our daughter last night and she's 14. So everything is fucking emotional. I told, I told my husband,

I was like, you know, I'm going to get blamed for all of her fucking trauma. When she grows up, she's going to be like that fucking bitch fucking traumatized me, you know, because I feel like step parents always get such a bad rap, you know. So I think it's really cool that you were able to look at it with rose colored glasses. Yeah. And I think it's a testament to a lot of my success. You know, I think if I didn't go through a lot of that shit, maybe it

wouldn't have made me less or more successful but I think I have this personality trait where I'm very like in tune I'm very observative like it made me who I am which has led to my success you know what I mean well I mean you started selling drugs in high school so obviously you've got a you know a great mind to hustle and to not be a victim you know which a lot of people do fall into that oh what was me this is I was this happened to me so I'm gonna be this way whereas you know there's people like us who are just like you know what fuck that this happened to us and we're gonna just fucking keep on trucking 100 yeah so I think that's awesome so 19 you moved to new york no 20 i summed up my life story yeah like two seconds you're like how'd you skip 10 years um no so i graduated college and then we stay on a smart cookie by the way we what we stay on a smart cookie thank you so much um queen so graduated college worked in finance

moved to new york i want to say 23 24 years old why did you choose finance that shit is so hard trust me god you got to be really fucking smart to do that shit i no are you getting really no i mean i'm dead ass yeah I'm smart I mean to play with numbers and people's money all day like that's got to be yeah so I majored in in uh finance or in economics okay I shouldn't have I know business majoring that I didn't like it I didn't care for it I wasn't that good at it but what I was really good at was English and writing and shit like that and I thought to myself there's no fucking money in this at all right so force yourself to do something where you know money is so I forced myself to major in economics then got a job at

like a top five finance firm I didn't have like a high level job by any means right but still you're doing your thug fizzle right right and it's better than me I was spinning around a pole I went the complete opposite I was like easy money fuck yeah you know what you were probably making quadruple what I was making so I think that was the smart fucking move you know if I could ever go back and like change career paths I I probably wouldn't. But and I'm like the worst person to ever represent the adult industry because everybody's like, oh, what was me? I would never do it. And I'm like, nope, I would do it again. But if I could ever go back, I would definitely have tried to live that college life because I feel like I miss that. You know, like I missed being able to be a kid and

just fucking fuck up and get arrested for fucking weird shit you know right weird shit that nobody else gets arrested for no I know and I didn't really have the full college experience oh you can hear in my voice I'm 100% the type of girl I should have been in a sorority yeah it's but it's like it you can just tell you know totally so I didn't have that full experience but uh started working in finance and then I went through a super bad breakup with my boyfriend at the time and he was a piece of shit and that's like a whole different story but was he abusive he was yeah was it a domestic violence relationship? Yeah. I love how you say yeah.

I don't know. Yes. I would say it was abusive. I don't think it was at the level that a lot of women experience it at. But don't minimize the trauma that you had. Right. I think us as women, we always try to compare our stories to other people. And, you know, abuse is abuse so it's true whether it's verbal mental physical to me verbal and mental abuse is way worse than physical punch me in my fucking face yep but don't fucking play

mind games with me because I will turn into fucking what's that dude's name the fucking the ringmaster guy from fucking saw I'll fucking turn into that guy like don't fuck with me so yeah don't minimize your trauma because I know I need to get used to not doing that yes I would say it was definitely an abusive relationship and again the silver lining I use that to be like I'm getting the fuck out of Utah I'm going to New York and I'm gonna to figure it out from there. I love that for you. What is it like coming from, you know, because Utah is huge, but it's not New York. You know, like it's a completely fucking different vibe, I guess you could say. What is your first days, your first week in New York?

What is that like for you? Paint us that picture. Holy shit. week in New York what is that like for you paint us that picture holy shit I'm like so excited you're asking me this question because the first six months living in New York were the most terrifying crazy uh self-growth period I've ever had in my entire life I go from Utah living with my family very sheltered very conservative to you are completely alone in New York I got this studio it was like 1800 a month which is fucking expensive but it was like a shoebox mattress on the floor right now nowadays if you can find anything for 1800 New York I know you can't yeah but um it was a shoebox

mattress on the floor and i was completely alone and it was fucking crazy it was really really scary um why did you pick new york you just looked at a map and you're like fuck it i'm going to new york so my aunt who's kind of like my second mom she lives in new york part-time gotcha um and so i had been there quite a few times and she was part of the reason and i think i think a lot of girls especially grow up with watching sex in the city in new york and you know the hustle and bustle and the fashion and all that shit they make it look so beautiful on sex in the city right it's like it's so like pleasant you know and then you go there and you're like want want want like end up in the bronx somewhere which i like the bronx i don't

mind or no brooklyn brooklyn i like brooklyn you know sex in the city that show is you watch it and you want to move to new york so bad and you get there and it's like yeah some of this is real a lot of it is not real it's like yeah some of this is real a lot of it is not real it's like a fucking highlight reel of New York obviously were the people just like completely different like did anybody take advantage of you like how was that no actually and I think you know I grew up in Utah which is so it's such a bubble and so conservative and etc but i was dealing drugs i was getting in trouble in utah i was like bitch i'm a gangster like i'm in utah okay have you guys in new york heard of that place right um but i i i had a lot of experience going into New York, you know? I wasn't, I was sheltered, but again, like my upbringing and everything,

it wasn't like I was thrown into New York like some country girl. Yeah, some make-mild. Exactly. And you're a tough cookie too. I can definitely read that from you. So you're not going to take shit from anybody. Right. I love that for you.

Yeah. So you're in New York. You've been there for six months. What happens after that so six months into it those six months were so fucking wild I almost like burnt down the apartment complex on accident like I left the the stove on which in New York is a big no-no oh no and is it gas or electric the gas okay and yeah there was it was a whole fucking thing cheers to living on your own i did that one time i left eggs boiling and left i don't know what the fuck i was thinking came home my entire fucking place was filled with smoke and the eggs

were like on fire in the pan but i didn't burn the place down oh my god i think that's like whenever you're living on your own you have to like go through those lessons to just learn you do right oh my god and this is such a side note tangent you're gonna be like what the fuck I remember leaving my studio and I left a bunch of lemons and oranges in the garbage and when I came back to my studio after like my trip I opened the garbage can it was moving oh and I was like wait why does my garbage can look like it's moving maggots like thousands of them so I chucked my garbage can out the window it was like seven stories high I could have absolutely killed someone god can you imagine walking below that that day just like in like it's raining maggots and you're like no and you're already having a fucked up day God why why is this happening to me I would freak

out I'd be like this is a sign I'm fucking leaving the city well and a big ass fucking garbage can like I could have been so sued and so fucked yeah but um no it was really crazy and then yeah about six months to a year I I didn't really have friends right I didn't know anyone there but I started meeting people and that's when I was introduced to the co-host that I had on call her daddy are we allowed to say her name or yeah Alex Cooper that's that's when I met her she was looking for a place I was looking for a place and this girl I'd met in like a uber pool is the one that connected us it's so crazy and random and this is destiny right it's part of your journey 100 and then the day I met her we signed a lease on an apartment we don't even know each other and then yeah you guys needed each other in that moment you know

and I think this is one thing that people other in that moment you know and i think this is one thing that people don't understand because you know as we get into the story um you know playing devil's advocate here you guys had a genuine friendship there was a love there between you guys and i'm sure she misses you like crazy because when you meet somebody and you sign a lease with them on the first fucking day there's I don't want to say chemistry because it makes you guys sound like no there was chemistry but it's like there that's a bond where you just reckon it's like a soul recognition where you're like hey where you been all my life I've been looking for you let's fucking be buddies and do this you know yeah you know a part of me and I'm just I'm too honest for my own good a part of me sometimes thinks that a part of me sometimes

wonders I think there's certain people that maybe you think they're making that connection or they feel that way but they're not which is sometimes like how I look back on the relationship I don't know if she was ever if she ever felt it the same way I yeah so and and I don't know and I probably will never know but there was a reason we met and we clicked like that so you guys you guys signed a lease and you moved in together what happens from there so I'm still working in finance she was working for a magazine she got laid off um she had always wanted to be in entertainment in some way and be famous in some way people like that scare me yeah any and this isn't us talking shit it's just really people who want to be famous so bad that they're willing to step on anybody and do anything

to get there terrifying it's scary you know very and you can tell how when people are like that and when they're not you know like I the shit that we've accumulated I I don't even like going in public like I hate it you know like when people are like you know oh it's got to be so cool to be in your position no it's not because there's backlash and there's so much there's so much that comes with the notoriety is a negative also, you know? So just, um, knowing that somebody is willing to, um, you know, be like that is kind of scary. Well, right. Someone willing to do whatever step over anyone to get there. I think you and I are very very similar I can just feel it where we have such

public jobs but I think we're very private at the end of the day like I get that vibe absolutely yeah you can ask my team I don't go anywhere unless it's scheduled and I know what's happening right right right no surprises over here yeah I feel the exact same way and I never grew up being like I want to be famous or in the limelight I mean I'm sure when I was younger like oh my god everybody goes through that I want to be Britney Spears yeah exactly Christina Aguilera yeah exactly um but that that was very clear that that was her goal and uh we did have chemistry like how you mentioned earlier and we went to south by southwest and i remember we were at this bar and we were very i think me more so very raunchy very explicit

i was talking about like getting dp'd or some shit just like open being my kind of girl right here right i was very open about it and by the end of the night we had like a group of people around us just being like what the fuck like you guys are so funny and then we had the opportunity to start a podcast do you feel like she fed off of you like your energy yes 100 but i i fed off hers as well. We were very good that way. Yin and yang at the time. 100%. How did the opportunity for the podcast present itself? Because not everybody gets offered a fucking podcast with Barstool.

Right. So she had a friend who had just started a podcast company. It was a startup that is long gone now yeah there's a bunch of like trust fund kids that just had a shit ton of money and had no idea what they were doing but they were like we have this amazing studio that costs like you know however much yeah um people don't realize how much goes into podcasting so much time effort if i can you don't get paid for a while right like you have to really build to fucking be successful at it 100 which my story was a little bit different i think i'm definitely like the outlier when it comes to that because we recorded i think three episodes and threw that shit on social media and had barstool come and offer us a job just after like three episodes

yeah put out when so when so okay you guys got offered the podcast first or you guys started a podcast before barstool offered so we started a youtube channel okay and if i had to fucking see that footage right now i would jump through this window and disappear don't you hate it I have shit on my YouTube channel from like years ago and I'm like no no and there's no point in deleting it because it like once it's there it's part of your journey right yeah and somebody likes it somebody somewhere likes it you know right um but we started a YouTube channel and then this guy that had the podcast company, he came to us and said, you guys are interesting. Two hot girls. Funny.

Why don't you try it? Was the podcast always titled Call Her Daddy? No. Okay. What was your first name? I'm trying to think of what the YouTube channel was called or what we were trying to call it. I have no fucking clue.

I can't remember. We'll have to come back to that. Yeah. We'll have have I'll have to like do it no like I'll do a deep dive I'm like no I won't be doing that but we recorded three podcast episodes and put them on social media Barstool reaches out and we leave that one company and go over to Barstool. Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. That's huge because Barstool is such a huge company. Right. Was that scary? Did you have to give up full control whenever you guys went over there? Like what was the deal? Did they just pretty much consume everything that you guys did? Yeah. One one hundred one 100 it was like you're signing over the right to everything it's like making a deal with the devil yeah it really is but from my perspective

and where i was in my life i was recording that podcast after work like after being at morgan stanley then i would go record it so it was like fun for you yeah it was just like whatever it was like a fun thing you guys had no idea you guys were about to change no I mean at least I didn't I had no clue also they offered more money and I'm like wait I can just like talk on a microphone for an hour a week and make more obviously there's so much more that goes into podcasting but it was a no-brainer for me did you guys write all of your own material or from the beginning was that you guys doing it or did you guys have writers come in since barstool took over that's a really good question so milf hunter who if people have listened to call her daddy or know me very well

they know who that is he was uh one of alex's my co-hosts best friends like high school best friends and he was behind the scenes for a lot of episodes more so with her i didn't really talk to him but he he's like a straight male and he would definitely give her a lot of her content I would do all of my own gotcha um but but he was he was the only person that would help but yeah we did have help from him for sure so you guys um you know have this podcast and you guys you know record your first few episodes for Barstool. What happens from there? Because I remember when you guys burst on the scene, the way I found you guys was I was jogging one day and I never fucking listen to podcasts. It's not my thing.

And somehow you guys popped up in my on my Apple thing. And I was like, you know what? I'll listen to it. I fucking two hours in. I was like, these bitches are fucking hilarious. Like, this is so funny. And it was just something that nobody was doing at the time, you like, these bitches are fucking hilarious. Like this is so funny. And it was just something that nobody was doing at the time, you know, and it was very inspirational, which you guys started in 2018.

My, I started my podcast in March of 2019. So like, I would love to say that you, you know, I'm honored to say that you guys definitely inspired my journey with my podcast. Cause I was like, Oh, if these girls can get on here and tell their truth and you know, me being a hooker from Vegas, get on here and tell my truths too, you know?

So it was very inspiring. And I just want to thank you guys for paving that way. Yeah. Like you guys are just, I, you know, and I don't know Alex and you, but you know,

we have to give credit where credit's due. You guys are both icons, you know, in your own right. Um, so what happens after you guys drop those first few episodes with barstool yeah well thank you i mean i'm so flattered because i had no idea and that wow like i that's fucking incredible um so we go over to barstool and i would say within six months of being there the shit just blew up I mean it was the number one podcast in the world it was I remember looking at the charts and it was like you know New York Times or New York Daily Mail their shit and then it was like how to eat pussy by call her

daddy like yeah you know right below it it. It just, it, it took over the world and it was, it was fucking wild, you know, cause it happened really fast. How did that feel? Were you scared? Were you fucking like, fuck yeah, bring it on. Like, I think I was like, fuck yeah, bring it on. Yeah. I don't think I was scared. When you're in it, it's so hard to process it exactly yeah I people ask me that question I'm like when you're in it you don't you realize that it's becoming a big deal but you don't really feel any different if that makes sense right people always think like oh once I get to the top or a certain destination or something I'm gonna feel completely different

you never really do no you never really if anything you feel worse sometimes you're like I'm not doing enough now what do I do yeah right you're like how do I make this even better yeah it's like yeah so you guys had a pretty good run how long did the podcast go for oh I want to say I think I did about 80 something episodes so close to two years wow yeah and then everything blew up and then I went out on my own but yeah it was about two years of my life so what happened when did you start realizing that things were like when did you realize that one you probably realized you needed to get paid more money right was that what happened I don't know the full story I've never really like tuned into what happened but um you know there comes a time where you have to kind

of be like okay I need to reanalyze my contract or something like that because you guys were holding barstool together like you guys put barstool on the mat pretty much you know you know what I really appreciate you saying that because it's true. A lot of women would not know who the fuck Barstool is if it wasn't for you guys. Exactly. Men too. Yeah. Yeah. And Barstool has like such a crazy fan base that it was like Barstool made this blah,

blah. Of course they contributed to the success of the show. They produced it. They didn't make it. They didn't. No. And I understood that very early on the marketing they gave us incredible amazing great but once we became so huge I started to hang out with people

that worked in entertainment and I was surrounded by people that understood the industry. And we were gonna be up for a contract negotiation. And after speaking to a lot of people, it was very, very clear that we were getting severely underpaid. And when I say severely underpaid, it was like, I think my salary was 70K. Wow. And we would get 2.5 off merch wow and barcelona robbing you guys they were bringing

in like 11 million a year wow roughly wow so when you look at those numbers that like gives you goosebumps right you know you're building something that huge and they're giving you literally fucking shillings right exactly like thanks for being here you guys are the brand thanks for being here i love this figure like it's literally like that um but i mean the discrepancy between those two numbers is fucking crazy yeah not to mention the podcast was my stories my personality very intimate details you know your life literally you guys were going out on dates coming home and fucking just bearing your soul right yeah right so wearing your holes souls and holes souls and holes baby both both baby sounds like a good episode so yeah I mean it came to our attention and both

Alex and I were like something drastic needs to change so you and Alex were both on the same page at this time point in time very much aligned yeah then where it switched is we were kind of planning on taking our show elsewhere not kind of we were planning on taking it elsewhere so you guys own the rights to it well we didn't own the rights okay but we could go start a podcast under a different name anywhere gotcha and we were like would still follow you because it's you guys exactly and it's like what is the name right you know sometimes you have to look at that when it comes to like branding is does the name matter or the person behind the podcast name right you know what I mean absolutely so we were planning on doing that then we had this infamous rooftop meeting with the owner barstool I don't know if he still owns it whatever founder

dave oh it is is he as much of an asshole in person as he is on disgusting oh god so that's not a shtick it's not an online persona no he's he's a 40 year old frat bro yeah and gross love you but you're gross toodles but um we had this meeting and then after the meeting i remember very vividly she was like uh they're gonna give us a chance to get our intellectual property back at the end of a year let's take the deal which was very to people listening it sounds like oh shit you're gonna get your intellectual property take that and run obviously explain to people what intellectual property is in case people don't understand so it's basically everything that you created your ownership to that so the name the phrases um the the merchandise? Like we would come up with a phrase, throw it on a t-shirt,

sell it. I mean, I think there was the I'm unwell, which I said in a podcast episode, that hoodie sold over a million dollars, like just that hoodie. We're all unwell. Right. We are. It was perfect. Right. But now we are well. Yeah. Right. We're on our way to being well. Yes. We are well now. We're healing. Growing and glowing. Yes. So if you think about it that way, it's like, oh, that's a no brainer. Like stay and take that. I was thinking about it from a different perspective because of all of the deal points that came with getting the intellectual property at the end a i didn't trust him and there was nothing in writing that was going to protect us and make sure that we got that did you guys have your own lawyers we did okay we did and they weren't helpful or where the fuck were they in all this so it's funny because after that meeting we called our attorney and told him about

the conversation and even our attorney was like oh the that's it's like literally the same thing that they already suggested so you girls should just keep with your same game plan which is what that was the vibe I was on also right so I don't really know why she did a complete flip-flop and I probably will never know but probably because they offered her a deal out from under you that's exactly what i think happened because i think it was a couple weeks later milf hunter people are like what kind of true crap like how like crazy is this story but um milf hunter who was helping her write shit her childhood friend yeah her childhood friend best friend uh he reached out to me and was like she had fucked him already by

the way wow like she fucked him over and i saw that happen and i should have you know light bulb moment thought maybe something like that could happen to me how did she fuck him over are we allowed to talk about it yeah we can I mean basically he was writing a lot of her fucking material I mean to captions on her social media to jokes she would say on the podcast and I always thought her humor was a bit masculine yeah yeah so now it makes sense because there's like a straight white guy behind it like doing the whole thing um and because she's completely fell off content wise i'm not talking shit but it's not like it was when you guys were together right which i've heard i haven't listened but i've heard that from a lot of people um but she finally brought him on to work for us and get paid and then really like tried to fire him and like get rid of him when really he was working for free for her for years. She just has no loyalty.

No. That's a terrible trait to have, especially, I mean, I guess in the entertainment industry, she fits right in. But we're not here to bad mouth. We're just Sophia's telling her side of the story. Yeah. You know, we've all seen what happened. So it it's yeah it's okay for us to form opinions yeah of course and I'm learning I kind of wish I was more like that I wish I was a little more ruthless and I was willing to just like step over people sometimes no you're perfect the way you are and the reason

why you have peace and are accomplishing stuff in life you can she's probably gonna you know she just signed a deal with like what 16 million with uh spotify or something like that yeah where the podcast is has gone to shit yeah literally what they did so should i tell the barstool story i've never told i've never told i'm like wait i've never told anybody this when you guys were going through your split they were telling people to send in their sizzle reels a podcast to replace you guys so we were like you know what fuck it we'll just send in a sizzle reel of everything that we've done yeah so we sent in a sizzle reel of my podcast and this was just in 2019 right 2020 when did you guys split 2020 2019 2019 yeah so it was in 2019 we sent them the sizzle reel literally everything

we sent them in the sizzle reel she's doing in her podcast now down to the games stop down to everything yeah no they literally i don't want to say stole our formula but i mean it's just so coincidental like i'm talking like the games that she's playing with hayley bieber the fucking content that she shifted to just everything because she was never about mental health and fucking playing games with her guests and stuff like that. So. Wow. Yeah.

So I was pissed when that happened, but I was like, you know what? Whatever. Fucking teach their own. I mean, it again. And we can move on. Yeah. I'm not talking shit. That is very, very interesting uh it's not surprising right

there wasn't I mean my shit like my jokes and my stories and shit were very authentic and me yeah hers was milf hunter's story so it makes sense that she took your shit and anything else she's seen that she could yeah you know so moving on from the breakup I know that that had to have been just the way you handled it like a lot of people are like oh Sophia took too long to speak out and I honestly feel like you did it very g-like really yeah I do and I think I would have done the same thing because you didn't um people who gaslight jumped to tell their story first you know and that's kind of like what they did they like tried to get damage control whatever whatever and they got their story out there first and then you just kind of sat back you know licked your wounds and then

came back out what were you feeling during that time like what was going on with Sophia during the breakup yeah so you literally just kind of lost everything right like oh I mean beyond I lost my who I thought was my best friend I lost my show which was like my baby I lost that platform to speak to my listeners directly and I didn't yeah I had an Instagram following and whatever else but I didn't have the same reach to talk to my listeners that I would have had right if I still had the show and I had my ex-boss friend slash co-host and ex-boss teaming up right to like completely destroy me which they had to do so that listeners would

continue listening to the show and like it right because I had created a bond with them I was 50% of the show and whatever else um how does that feel to have the world coming against you because I saw some of the stuff you're I've always been a follower of you so I just saw all the shit that you were having to deal with and I just always was team Sophia like I didn't know what was going yeah I've never been team Alex ever I've always just appreciated how you've handled things I don't like people who talk a lot she talks a lot you know so it's like I just kind of sat back and watched everything but reading some of your comments like broke my heart because I was just like god damn this girl doesn't deserve this you know yeah so when you finally came out and spoke I was like go

bitch go right I'm so excited getting that fucking first podcast episode of Sophia with an f out was I am not kidding I think I weighed 90 pounds I actually fainted the day before the episode went out because I was I was physically and mentally so not okay just frail yeah it was really crazy and having that many people involved in your business and believing something about you that isn't true and don't even know what's going on right isn't it crazy how opinionated people on the internet are and it's like disgusting are you do you know the people you're talking about do you actually know what went down no it's really crazy to me but it was it was fucking crazy and traumatic and did you stay in New York when no it was like did you get a phone call that just said hey Alex has decided to sign a deal and you're not part of it there

was a lot of back and forth Alex and I had stopped talking uh Dave called me and he was like hey Alex came to me she said because we weren't releasing episodes right uh he said Alex came to me she said she wants to take the podcast by herself she doesn't want you to be a part of it wow I just desperately need to get the show back on air I don't care if it's you I don't care if it's her but she doesn't want to work with you um I'm gonna offer you your own podcast under barstool but just a new one and I was like fuck that no I'm not doing that shit so that yeah I got that phone call um and that was crazy to hear I was like wait there's no way she said that like I was like wait there's no way she said that like this is my sister there's no way she said something like that um but there was a lot of back and forth and then one day I woke up and he released an episode under call her daddy right

but it was him talking and then she came out with a youtube video just really like ripping me apart and my boyfriend at the time and how i dealt with it at that moment in time there's like some ptsd again silver lining i'm so happy where i am now and i'm i'm grateful for like what happened but i think I was very numb. And I kind of blocked a bunch of shit out. Yeah. It's called like selective memory. Whenever you go through something super traumatic,

you just kind of like have to like, it's like a daze. You're just like, you're here. Lights are on, but nobody's home. And your body's doing it as a defense mechanism to protect you. Yeah. So that's kind of how it was. And then a couple months later, I I was like I need to get my voice out and I released my first episode so how did you come up with Sophia with an F

so I love your set by the way the blue oh my god thank you right the baby blue we are coming out with a new merch line that's gonna be very baby baby blue centric. But I was I had so many different names I wanted to call it. And I was talking to my agent and I was talking to a bunch of people and they were like, just fuck it. Do Sophia with enough personal branding and come out of the woodworks as your fucking name and just go for it. And that's kind of, that's kind of how it came to be.

Made it easy for people to find you too. Right. Because you already are such a fucking household name that, you know, as soon as people see that pop up on fucking podcast, they're like, Oh, right.

We go. Showtime. Here we go. Yeah. I listened to your first episode and I was like, I was really proud of you. Thank you so much. I would again die if I had to hear that again because I was not okay but it was a lot to get that out

there so thank you but it probably was so fucking relieving and so therapeutic it was I've come to find out having my podcast has been so therapeutic not only for the guests who come on but for myself too you know like dealing I battle uh you know a lot of mental health stuff like you know anxiety I do suffer from depression stuff like that and you know just kind of like it's your own little world where people just love you and it's like it's like a pretty bubble you know and yeah of course we have the haters but we don't care about them you know like we have and our followers and our listeners become our family yeah everybody feels what you feel if you're going through a hard time they're going through a hard time you know and they lift you up when you need

them and you lift them up and stuff like that so yeah it's so true there's something so intimate about podcasting it's just audio and you hearing someone it's so different than even like a visual or something like that you know and you're talking for an hour more straight and you and I are very real and authentic and so it's yeah I have and I'm sure you do too a very intimate relationship with your listeners yeah so how is Sophia with enough doing is it like everything you've ever dreamed of it is it is it's doing incredible i love so few enough it's going to continue for years to come i plan on doing some other things i think there's going to be some live touring coming soon we should collab we're we're thinking about doing a live tour called

well we were going to call it the horror tour but fucking amy schumer took the horror tour so now we have to think of something else we need to sue her we need to sue her yeah fucking Amy Schumer we know you're not a whore like us yeah no well come on what was it we're gonna bear our holes holes and souls baby we're gonna fucking kill it yeah no my boy Charlie Classic he's a comedian um and he's always got these hot ass bitches around him, dude, all the fucking time. And they're always willing to like shove a fist in their butthole and stuff like that. So I've thought like, why don't we take this fucking three ring circus on the road? But I want to do like five major dates.

I don't want to do like a whole tour like my husband does because that's fucking brutal. But I want to do like five major cities, go and just fucking have a great time and just, you know, have a blast and do the tour and me too yeah and what a great way to like engage with the listeners that's not like over the internet you know yeah absolutely and they get to actually like touch you and be around you yes and they deserve that because they they you know that you guys support us so much we love you so much yeah so Sophia with an f I'm so proud of you. I mean, there's just watching. You're like the comeback kid. Thank you so much. Yeah. I really appreciate that. You need a shirt that says that. Comeback

kid, the comeback kid. Comeback season. This was incredible. Thank you. Yeah, no. So I want, I had a couple people write in for some dating advice because I know you're like the queen of dating advice. Well, I don't know if it was all necessarily dating advice but I have this thing that I do on my Instagram every Sunday it's called ask tell confess I mean I've had people confess murders like it's stop girl it gets nuts over there stop but I've done it you're like I didn't read this I didn't see this no I post it and I'm like listen man as long as you know like I don't want to know about this. Yeah. So what I did was I did ask, tell, confess, and they kind of wrote in. And so I figured we'll just answer a couple of questions together.

I love that. All right. Cool. Jean wrote, I found out my hubby was texting prostitutes. He swears he was doing it for a friend. I roll. How do we feel about this? You know, I feel like guys always say it's for a friend i roll how do we feel about this you know i feel like guys always

say it's for the friend why does your friend need to do it off your husband's phone get a burner phone i have a story to tell please fucking i was dating my ex the abusive one and we were so often on all the time i would kick him out and go fucking party yeah you know it was just you have that passion though it's like you have the best sex ever and then you fucking just can't get along but anyways i was going through his phone one day he was in the shower and i looked in his trash and there's a video of this bitch twerking right and it's like it's on him and she's on a bed she pulls her she's naked so of course you know they're about to have sex or whatever and but i can't see who the dude is you know but i can see that the camera's right here and there's no voice he's not saying anything but it's on his fucking phone right right this

motherfucker told me it was his friend theo and it was such a mind fuck because i couldn't see who the dude was and it's like a part of me wanted to believe him and but then a part of me didn't so I was like I never really fully believed him but I couldn't prove it you know right so I hate that yeah I think that's kind of where she's at right now it's like she can't prove it but it's like you want to believe him but you don't want to believe him but you know you're probably never going to believe him and end up resenting him for it yeah that's a really good point I mean first of all to your abusive ex like if you're gonna throw it in the trash fucking delete it yeah how old are you delete the shit absolutely but i mean to her point it's if you can't 100 prove something but you're 99 sure go with that gut feeling go with the gut feeling but i also at the same time think if you can't 100 prove

something just keep your eyes peeled yeah because they'll fuck up again they'll fuck up again absolutely soon they always tell on themselves you know he'll he'll offer up the fucking the shit the evidence eventually or text the girl is she if she has the tech the number then i'm sure dude probably had to send her because i know whenever i was in the game you ask for a picture and id so if she could text the girl and if the girl's cool she might be like here you know you asked a picture and id for what so you're like wait send me your id is my guy back in my ho days uh if i can so i used to be a really high price call girl in vegas and you know you you have these ads on eros.com shout out eros you guys made me a hell of money um fucking in order to get a a date with you is what they would call it you know these guys would

text you but you're not gonna just walk into a fucking hotel room and just be like oh hey i'm here you know one it could be cops. You could be fucking walking into the last day of your life. You never know. So you always ask them, send me a picture of your ID and a picture of you holding up your ID. Because if a motherfucker has something to lose, they're not going to want to send you their ID. Or if they have bad intentions, they're not going to do that. So that was our way of like screening people.

OK. ID or if they have bad intentions, they're not going to do that. So that was our way of like screening people. Okay. And that way you have all their information and you can usually find their families online and Facebook like that and stuff like that. So yeah. Yeah. So if the, I think if the girl is cool that he was texting, you should just message her. Cause I did have a couple of wives who messaged me and I was like, yeah, girl, here you go. You know, like I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm just doing my job here. Just trying to suck a dick for an outfit. You know, it wasn't me. It was going to be someone else. I didn't know. All right.

Next question is. Do you think it's dumb to keep in contact with your ex? Me? I think it is. I think the only reason why people keep in contact with their exes is because there's hope that either one you can rekindle something or there's not there hasn't been enough closure I completely agree and I've dated guys who wanted to still be friends with their ex-girlfriends always ended up like they still liked them or they ended up hooking

up or something yeah and from my point of view I have exes that were incredible amazing people and I can find more incredible amazing people to be friends with absolutely you know what I mean you don't that like played it's played itself out obviously they're an ex for a reason so keep them there I totally agree unless you're trying to get back together with them then yeah how do you feel about orgies i know you're already about that life but like several people so my husband and i have an open relationship okay it's not really open it's more like you know my husband's a musician so i know there's groupies that want to you know hook up with him and if he tells me about it or i'm there i'm all for it but don't do something behind my back that a fucking girl know hook up with him and if he tells me about it or i'm there i'm all

for it but don't do something behind my back that a fucking girl can dm me about and i not know about i don't like surprises yeah my husband on the other hand is like if you want to cabana boy i don't want to know about it just do it you know right i feel like that's pretty like common guys don't want to know girls do when it comes to an open relationship i just feel better if i know you know because i don't want to be blindsided by some fucking bitch being like, oh, hey, I sucked your man off last night. Like, oh, hey, well, thanks, you know? Right.

I'd rather watch a fucking sex tape than like you come up to me and like try to tell me some shit. Right, exactly. But as far as orgies go, I don't know. That's a lot of bodily fluids for me. I've never done. I don't know. I don't fucking know.

I've done like several threesomes, orgy. Threesomes I don't think is a problem. No, I mean, is four people an orgy? She said like several, so I'm guessing like five or six. I just, I don't think, yeah, I would, with the monkey pox and shit right now, I'm like, let's keep it like a little contained dude we used to go to the swingers club in fucking uh vegas all the time called the red rooster and when i think of orgies i they have this thing called the pyramid of beds in there and it's a room that you walk in and

there's fucking just beds like literally in the shape of a pyramid that go up to like the ceiling this girl was getting plowed by like 11 dudes like she literally and it smelled no no it smelled like it smelled like fermented lasagna like it was so bad i was like but we were all so in awe that all of us were like standing there with our hands over our mouths fucking just trying to breathe and watch like she had a dick in her ears. Stop nostrils. Oh, I thought they were running a train. No, every hole.

Oh, no. Every hole had a dick in it. It was crazy. I didn't understand what was going on. And we were just so fucking impressed. Dare I say? Yeah. Absolutely.

We didn't care about the smell. We just fucking were just like, what is happening here? But it was just too much. Well, do they all wear a condom? how does that i don't know i just i feel like so we would go to the swingers clubs in vegas because me and my girls would always go to bars and like all the girls i hung out with were attractive and we just hated getting fucking hit on by dudes and they don't take no for a fucking answer no so we would hang out at the swingers clubs because they have rules there. If you come up to a girl and they're like, hey, do you want to party?

And you say no, they have to walk away or they'll get kicked out. OK, so we should apply those rules to every night. Yeah, for sure. Right. Yeah. Swingers are actually like really cool people. They're all a little fucking weird, but they're all really cool people. Just don't eat the buffet i can't eat the buffet and got drugged at the fucking swingers

club i swear to drug from the buffet the meatballs the biscuits or what it's the meatball no fucking way i went there with my ex one time and fucking everything was fine and i was just so fucking drunk and i remember they had spaghetti and meatballs at the fucking swingers club and fucking i ate the spaghettis and meatballs and i fucking blacked out next thing you know we are at my my ex's parents house passed out in his old room with del taco wrappers all around us dude we fucking passed out like the bed is is this way we passed out the opposite side of the bed laying back like this with the lights on completely nude with the door open tell me that we didn't get drugged it's not even like my drink i have to worry about like i can't eat a fucking buffet don't

don't eat the meatballs at the swingers club so anything unattended anything yeah that you don't know where it came from don't fucking eat it holy shit I guess our answer to that question is uh no yeah so shockingly we're not down with orgies but basically everything like we'll do we'll do threesomes yeah orgies we're not into that all right one more question or uh yeah well two has anyone ever came on your feet no i mean maybe on accident but like not intentionally okay how do you accidentally come on somebody's feet i mean if they're just standing over me like lose control oh yeah yeah i gotcha never that's hot never intentional though have you no i've not i've always thought that dudes that had foot fetishes were kind of weird like i never understood whacking somebody off with my feet but you've done it i have i mean we all have

yeah we've all done it we've all done it yeah but it just feels a little like neanderthal-ish you know like there's nothing sexy about cupping a dick with your no you literally feel like a monkey and it's kind of bizarre yeah no i've never really gotten into the whole foot fetish thing no i don't understand the foot fetish although i think some guys are just they want everything to be freaky and it's like they don't necessarily have a foot fetish but it's like use your feet use whatever you whatever you have. I'm also into this. There's no start. My cum.

Yeah. Just anything weird. Right. Like anything they're into like that. I can kind of play with because it's like, here's a freak. Yeah. If you specifically like the feet, our kinks don't really line up. Yeah.

I don't understand. I don't understand people that are like into the arches and fucking just weird shit. And they use shoe. What is hot about that like who wants to see a scrumped foot you know like there's nothing hot about there's nothing hot about that all right so last one my husband's dick is small but i still scream his i but i still scream every time he slides it in good girl at a girl 100% I mean I don't know if that was a complaint or if that was more of her saying like you know I'm just still trying to make him feel good like she feels like a fraud yeah and I mean if you if you make noises

and make your husband feel great you know there's nothing he could do about his dick size right so i think like right in that instance you should yeah i think you're doing the right thing yeah definitely don't scream like oh my god you're so big because because you know there's girls that think they should yell that and the guy's not even big and then the guy is like i know how big i am yeah fucking lying you're like You're like, no, he's like, no, I have a micro dick. Yeah. Fucking pretend. Yeah. Don't lie about the size, but you can like scream and be like, oh my God, that feels good.

I think our job as women is to make guys feel good as long as they're making us feel good. You know, exactly. He's not physically making you feel good. Obviously you married the motherfucker for a reason. Right. You know, so I think that, you know, you guys sound like a match made in heaven. You're doing the right thing baby yes Sophia thank you so much for coming on the podcast I'm so happy to have you here and I want to bring you back every year and just check in with you and see how you're doing I would fucking love that this was so amazing we absolutely vibe and I

can't wait to have you on my episodes of you with An F. And thank you so much for having me. Thank you. And Sophia, why don't you tell people where they can find you? So you guys can find me on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, basically anywhere. Sophia with an F, Franklin with a Y. On TikTok, it's Sophia Franklin. And then the number zero. But I'm all over all social media, being a hoe, being funny, being annoying,

whatever you want. And then Sophia The Neff is my podcast. Yay. Go listen, you guys. Go listen. Not now, right now. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde.

I will see you guys next week. Bye.